**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 20 02:59:56 2005 Aug 20 03:00:02 hey man-di Aug 20 03:00:08 been a while, yeah Aug 20 03:01:21 man-di: has it been decided where the devjam is going to take place? I'll definitely be in Oldenburg :) Aug 20 03:01:40 not 100% but I think it will be there Aug 20 03:02:07 ah. that'd be cool Aug 20 03:03:34 I will be there anyway Aug 20 03:03:45 from friday to sunday I think Aug 20 03:08:26 cool. I plan to attend from wednesday to sunday Aug 20 03:17:38 morning Aug 20 03:32:56 morning CoreDump|work Aug 20 03:56:42 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r220fba21... 10/packages/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Aug 20 03:56:42 Add Xsession entry for e-wm Aug 20 03:56:42 Add initscript setup to entrance Aug 20 03:56:42 Add chkhinge, e-modules, e-utils, and evidence to task-enlightenment-x11 Aug 20 04:04:17 <_RaVeN_> hello Aug 20 04:08:29 when i compile vlc package in my system using OE: i get the error : vorbis.c: In function `DecodePacket': Aug 20 04:08:29 | vorbis.c:484: error: too few arguments to function `vorbis_synthesis' Aug 20 04:08:51 <_RaVeN_> I'm getting lots of errors like this one: "ERROR: Unable to generate local paths for SRC_URI due to malformed uri:" on my first try to build something with bitbake... any ideas on what could be wrong? Aug 20 04:09:22 <_RaVeN_> I've followed the GettingStarted guide Aug 20 04:10:15 _RaVeN_: sounds like your SRC_URI is incorrect Aug 20 04:12:11 <_RaVeN_> In which conf file should I change this setting? or is it an environment variable? Aug 20 04:15:16 <_RaVeN_> it looks like bitbake is not expanding variables like SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR, GPE_MIRROR, etc... but they are defined with default settings in bitbake.conf aren't they? Aug 20 04:18:51 ::shrug:: Aug 20 04:18:57 sorry, got to go to bed Aug 20 04:19:10 http://makerootfs.sourceforge.net/ Aug 20 04:20:52 zecke: I guess someone wasn't happy w/ OE Aug 20 04:20:53 i don't remember in which .bb files the is the list of packages used to build a final images (bootstrap-image) ? Aug 20 04:22:09 * JustinP shakes his head....OpenEmbedded is the right way to do this...why waste time rewriting things in *shell scripts*?? Aug 20 04:22:31 has anyone tried any mp3 which works on omap Aug 20 04:22:40 omap? Aug 20 04:22:48 omap 5912 osk Aug 20 04:22:56 I don't know what that is Aug 20 04:23:03 i have tried building 4 or 5 players with OE Aug 20 04:23:06 CoreDump|work: I'm trying it, but I have found no way to build a SIMpad rootfs :} Aug 20 04:23:15 CoreDump|work: and I wonder how it compiles my hh.org kernel Aug 20 04:23:37 some i get compiler errors and some run time segmentation errors. i am totally frustated Aug 20 04:23:52 eJumbo: did you try mpd? Aug 20 04:24:03 musicpd Aug 20 04:24:09 yes Aug 20 04:24:11 it is based on client server Aug 20 04:24:22 lol it even fetches ipk from OpenZaurus... Aug 20 04:24:22 yes.... Aug 20 04:24:40 zecke: *ipk*?? Aug 20 04:24:41 hehe Aug 20 04:24:55 that's.....ok.... Aug 20 04:24:57 i compiled the client on my machine. but where is the server. i got the message not connected to server Aug 20 04:25:22 eJumbo: you need to compile both mpd and a client (or multiple clients) Aug 20 04:25:36 eJumbo: try mpd and mpc/ncmpc Aug 20 04:25:40 mpd is the actual player Aug 20 04:25:46 the others are clients Aug 20 04:25:47 1 sec Aug 20 04:26:11 you need to set up the conf file for mpd then start it, then use a client to connect to it Aug 20 04:26:42 i compiled glurp Aug 20 04:27:00 and i should also have mpd -- server. Aug 20 04:27:08 yes Aug 20 04:27:43 ok, I'm heading to bed now, it's 4:30AM here... Aug 20 04:28:13 any other configuration is reqd ? Aug 20 04:28:18 eJumbo: if you have mpd questions ask in the mpd IRC channel. Or ask me when I'm back on Aug 20 04:28:28 eJumbo: you need to set up the mpd conf file Aug 20 04:28:31 search the web Aug 20 04:28:32 good night JustinP Aug 20 04:28:48 if anyone is interested, the e-image should be working now Aug 20 04:28:51 night Aug 20 04:35:10 zecke: are you sending your emails via some kind of telegram system? Aug 20 04:47:36 This is very weird. On spitz, battery measurements work if either the lcd timing genertor was disabled quickly or the green led is on... Aug 20 04:48:06 The green LED is the mail light. The ornange charging led makes no difference... Aug 20 04:49:57 FYI: nslu2-linux has officially deprecated the org.openembedded.nslu2-linux branch, in favour of committing directly to the org.openembedded.dev branch. Aug 20 04:50:17 rwhitby: very good Aug 20 04:51:08 The Master Makefile has been updated, and monotone.nslu2-linux.org will stop serving the org.openembedded.nslu2-linux and org.openembedded.dreambox branches in about a week's time (to allow everyone to run "make update" to update their working trees automatically). Aug 20 04:53:03 My assumption is that koen's auto-syncing of all the servers which have org.openembedded.dev (including monotone.nslu2-linux.org) will keep things in sync, and that we (nslu2-linux) will just push and pull to monotone.nslu2-linux.org and let koen's cron jobs do the rest. If that's not the case, then we can set up a cron job at our end ... Aug 20 05:01:59 hum anyone knows if here's any better support for sd2gig cards? Aug 20 05:02:07 so far i have only seen reports of failure Aug 20 05:12:27 when i try to compile mpd. i get the error:- ../arm-linux-libtool: line 1: cd: no/lib: No such file or directory Aug 20 05:13:00 pb_: why? Aug 20 05:13:20 pb_: I have a direct pigeon connection to the next hop Aug 20 05:13:50 pb_: ah yeah, the content looked so empty Aug 20 05:13:58 pb_: ;) Aug 20 05:14:03 zecke what's is the serial console sor sa1110 (h3600) on kernel 2.6 ? Aug 20 05:14:11 on old 2.4 was /dev/ttySA0 ... Aug 20 05:14:20 gremlin[it]: likely still ttySA0 Aug 20 05:15:05 i got nothing more than Uncompressing Linux..... done, booting the kernel .... Aug 20 05:15:16 (w/o last points) ... Aug 20 05:16:03 gremlin[it]: you could toggle a led to see if it booted? Aug 20 05:16:15 gremlin[it]: otherwise turn low level debugging on? Aug 20 05:16:35 gremlin[it]: and sorry, I'm extremely short on time Aug 20 05:16:50 zecke ok don't worry :) ... Aug 20 05:16:59 i have a starting point at least now ;) Aug 20 05:17:54 * zecke draws some data structures to find the best one... Aug 20 05:25:13 really better now i have a kernel panic :) :) :) Aug 20 05:25:29 wrong console= bootparam ... Aug 20 05:25:46 sould be console=ttySA0 ... not console=/dev/ttySA0 ;) ... Aug 20 05:26:03 zecke: heh Aug 20 05:27:39 that >>>No RedBoot partition table detected in sa1100<<< is no good for an ipaq right ?! Aug 20 05:28:20 also cuase it the use a 4 partition fixed scheme ... where i have only 2 ... firmware + root(jffs2) ... :) Aug 20 05:28:58 i am trying to compile mpd package and i get the following error during compiling it.http://pastebin.ca/20529 Aug 20 05:29:12 http://pastebin.ca/20529 Aug 20 05:29:46 actually it is cross compiling issue - i am trying to cross compile mpd for TI OSK 5912 (arm processor) Aug 20 05:31:47 which block of flash hold the partition table ?! the first (0) ? Aug 20 05:32:57 oh man make -j 40 is too much for my ole laptop Aug 20 05:33:17 eJumbo: did you sort out your xine (esd), glibc cross issues? Aug 20 05:33:47 i dont really remember Aug 20 05:33:50 ah Aug 20 05:34:10 it had a problem with the architecture i guess Aug 20 05:35:17 TARGET_CC_ARCH = "-march=armv5te -mtune=arm926ej-s" Aug 20 05:36:14 zecke: i am having trouble getting a mp3 player for my OSK Aug 20 05:36:33 eJumbo: I do not even know mpd ;) Aug 20 05:36:51 either it compiles and does work or it never compiles: tried at least 4 to 5 of them Aug 20 05:37:21 some libtool error. it is related to cross compiling. Aug 20 05:37:54 zecke: can u please have a look at http://pastebin.ca/20529 Aug 20 05:37:58 I don't know what libtools trys to see Aug 20 05:38:08 eJumbo: I've already looked at it, no clue sorry Aug 20 05:39:06 do u suggest any light weight mp3 player on ARM. i used mpd because ipod uses it Aug 20 06:07:44 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r18e74576... 10/packages/alsa/alsa-driver_0.9.6-hh4c.bb: alsa-driver: package midi/misc modules separately instead of deleting them (not all are actually built right now). re-enable sequencer. make configure checks work. Aug 20 06:09:18 it is the same old configure problem. i dont know why it is looking at /usr/lib /no/lib ? Aug 20 06:22:59 I cant really find out why configure wants to place all binaries at /usr/bin ? Aug 20 06:23:25 why it looks for all include directories at /usr/include and libs at /usr/lib Aug 20 06:35:09 eJumbo: welcome to the world of autotools Aug 20 06:40:26 zecke: dont really know what the problem is. Aug 20 06:41:33 actually, i thought the patches will pacth the make files generated by configure Aug 20 06:41:33 I just know my laptop is alsmost dead now... Aug 20 06:48:27 seems like your network connection is also at death's door Aug 20 06:48:46 well my notebook died, this make me force to work in the super market next month :} Aug 20 06:49:38 yipee no FreeSoftware next month :} Aug 20 06:51:09 i thought patches are applied so that the correct PATHS are in the MAke files. since all the paths should be taken from the staging directory. Aug 20 06:51:35 i dont know if patches are not created properly. Aug 20 06:51:45 or where the problem is Aug 20 06:51:46 dunno what you did Aug 20 06:51:56 but patches are applied before running configure Aug 20 06:52:39 and specially on automatically generated files, prior patches will be discarded Aug 20 06:53:09 zecke: is this your ibook that died? I thought you only bought that about ten minutes ago. Aug 20 06:53:22 i just added that package name mpd in depends and rdepends and expected it to work. but configure placed some paths (/usr/bin, /usr/lib /usr/xxx) into my make files. Aug 20 06:53:41 /usr/xxx sounds bad Aug 20 06:53:49 make fails because there is no such directory like /usr/xxx. that all the problem Aug 20 06:54:10 pb_: hehe, no it is my old HP Omni Book (my private one) Aug 20 06:54:24 actually it is no/lib. i dont have any such directory Aug 20 06:54:25 pb_ : iBook will be most likely for office stuff :} Aug 20 06:54:45 zecke: aha, I see Aug 20 06:55:06 pb_: and the ibook arrives next month, the shop and none in stock Aug 20 06:55:12 next week Aug 20 06:55:13 damn Aug 20 06:56:40 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r31c249ab... 10/packages/syslog-ng/syslog-ng_1.6.8.bb: Add libol dependency Aug 20 07:23:17 * pb_ stabs xilins Aug 20 07:23:21 xilinx, too Aug 20 07:25:00 no linux tools for spartan/xl Aug 20 07:27:28 * reenoo_ wonders whether there are linux tools for the mpc 565 Aug 20 07:27:40 pb_: designing an asic? or what is spartan/xl good for? Aug 20 07:28:45 zecke: no, but I have a board that I want to use one of those fpgas on. Most of the newer ones aren't 5V tolerant, which would be a bit of a pain in this application. Aug 20 07:29:19 I wonder if the windows tools will run under Wine. Aug 20 07:54:40 morning kergoth Aug 20 07:58:32 03nail 07org.oe.dev * ra2acaaf4... 10/packages/libol/libol_0.3.16.bb: Remove libol-native dependency, since it's not needed (and don't exist either) Aug 20 08:09:31 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r62714411... 10/packages/ (libol/libol_0.3.16.bb syslog-ng/syslog-ng_1.6.8.bb): Bump PR (sigh) Aug 20 08:30:54 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r5a0617c6... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Remove syslog-ng until fixed Aug 20 08:30:58 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rb7f772c1... 10/packages/libol/libol_0.3.16.bb: Fix staging Aug 20 08:41:17 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8d0e7138... 10/packages/meta/openslug-packages.bb: Ok, now syslog-ng works. Rejoice. Aug 20 09:19:23 everytime I try to build something with a GPE dependency, bitbake gives up complaining that it can't find libwidget-0.103 Aug 20 09:19:40 i see libwidget-0.100 in the oesources, but not 103 Aug 20 09:20:06 is there anyway around this, or is there a copy of 103 floating around somewhere? Aug 20 10:35:57 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rc8a83ebe... 10/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit/openslug/inittab: sulogini -> sulogin typo Aug 20 10:45:31 r Aug 20 10:45:32 e Aug 20 11:11:46 koen|away: http://www.embeddedarm.com/news/netbsd_toaster.htm Aug 20 11:12:59 zecke: I want one :) Aug 20 11:13:49 chouimat: now I need to train my cats to put toast into the toaster Aug 20 11:14:03 chouimat: so I can control it over network, but probably at that point I will just control my cat Aug 20 11:14:23 zecke: same here ... imagine reading your emails while waiting for your toasts Aug 20 11:15:41 chouimat: one of my cats is soo huge I could mount a lcd monitor on its back... Aug 20 11:15:52 hehe Aug 20 11:16:42 hmm I need to add the gaim-otr plugin to QPE-gaim Aug 20 11:19:33 JustinP: ERROR: dependency meta-e-x11 (for e-image) not satisfied, forgot to commit? Aug 20 11:20:29 CoreDump|home: Is opie-l* working again for you? Aug 20 11:21:06 zecke: umm, you'll have an answer tomorrow :\ will need to build opie from scratch Aug 20 11:22:15 CoreDump|home: hehe, my plan worked then Aug 20 11:22:25 :) Aug 20 11:35:36 hi... has anyone managed to build minimo with a current oe pull? Aug 20 11:49:47 hello all. I have a rather simple question, but can't seem to find the answer. I have OE installed, and I have my bootstrap-image installed, and working. I now want to add a few kernel modules (for networking) and some packages - like httpd, less, etc.. I've got the ipkg's to compile - but I don't know how to load them into the image. How do you put the new ipkg's into your image? Aug 20 11:50:17 it's running on standard x86 hardware on a CF drive - if that helps Aug 20 11:53:42 JustinP: re new e-image: entrance crashes a lot but works otherwise. Aug 20 11:54:14 dwildes: you could create your dwildes-image file (like opie-image, gpe-image) Aug 20 11:54:19 dwildes: and build that Aug 20 12:01:22 thanks zecke - just done some digging and it looks like the declarations for defining my own image (dwildes-image) would be in the packages/meta area - is that correct? Aug 20 12:04:55 yep - looks like packages/meta was the place. Got my own image file created and compiling now. Thanks for the tip zecke! Aug 20 12:15:06 anyone actually in here? Aug 20 12:15:28 dwildes: right Aug 20 12:15:37 dwildes: you're welcome Aug 20 12:16:45 does minimo build from the current OE repository? Aug 20 12:17:04 because it just crapped out for me... i'm trying again now, though Aug 20 12:23:21 booga booga booga Aug 20 12:23:33 man i am excited about biohazard ... :) Aug 20 12:24:06 btw the concept has changed, its not a replacement for evoak Aug 20 12:24:45 after some deliberation i decided that evaok's method wasnt appropreate Aug 20 12:25:04 now the idea is more flexible and powerful :) Aug 20 13:20:28 ~hail echo 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state Aug 20 13:20:29 * ibot bows down to echo 3 > /proc/acpi/fan/FAN/state and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 20 13:30:00 * RP finds a pxa irq bug :-/ Aug 20 13:30:22 CoreDump|home: still having meta-e-x11 errors? I was sure it was all fixed.... Aug 20 13:30:30 well, time functions not preserving irq context when needed anyway... Aug 20 13:31:02 CoreDump|home: if you mean entrance crashes when you try to change the session, then yes I've noticed this. It should work ok otherwise, though. Aug 20 13:31:55 meta-e-x11 is missing the evidence.bb Aug 20 13:32:19 as for entrance: correct Aug 20 13:35:36 lol Aug 20 13:35:54 damn... where did i put my doxygen exapmles Aug 20 13:42:36 CoreDump|home: missing evidence? Aug 20 13:42:45 yep Aug 20 13:42:59 I don't know what you mean Aug 20 13:43:42 the filemanager, meta-e-x11 depends on evidence which is nowhere to be found... Aug 20 13:44:17 oh....oops Aug 20 13:44:29 I read that as entrance Aug 20 13:44:31 one sec Aug 20 13:44:35 =) Aug 20 13:44:58 can e-image be built for h3900? i was looking in the .bb file and only see references to zaurus feeds Aug 20 13:45:19 herren: sure, it should work fine Aug 20 13:45:28 herren: the feeds really make no difference Aug 20 13:45:42 herren: just set it up to pull from your own feed Aug 20 13:45:54 right.. thanks. Aug 20 13:46:24 JustinP, your getting yourself into all sorts of issues by letting people build it ... Aug 20 13:46:40 yeah, imagine that Aug 20 13:46:57 well the fact that there are very few apps for it... Aug 20 13:47:05 people will start demanding them Aug 20 13:47:13 emte: well let ehm build them Aug 20 13:47:32 they will expect you to do it Aug 20 13:47:33 emte: besides, *all* of the GPE apps will run just fine on the e-image. It runs x11 after all Aug 20 13:48:10 damnit .. where is my doxygen stuff ... Aug 20 13:49:27 i guess that means you abandoned building e standalone? Aug 20 13:49:38 do you mean not on x11? Aug 20 13:49:49 e (the wm) only run on X Aug 20 13:49:52 runs Aug 20 13:49:58 as do most/all of the programs Aug 20 13:50:10 no Aug 20 13:50:13 CoreDump|home: ok, evidence should be there now Aug 20 13:50:17 without the gpe garbage Aug 20 13:50:38 you don't need all of the GPE stuff Aug 20 13:50:52 in fact, the "GPE" apps aren't really "GPE" apps IMHO, they're just X apps Aug 20 13:50:55 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rb9525cc7... 10/packages/e17/evidence_20050810.bb: Adding evidence Aug 20 13:51:10 thanks Aug 20 13:51:12 you can run sylpheed, firefox, whatever on X no matter what wm you use Aug 20 13:51:13 gpe stands for gtk does it not? Aug 20 13:51:36 emte: I just wanted e to be usable without having to install all of GPE Aug 20 13:51:38 so any gtk app will work in gpe Aug 20 13:51:39 and it is now Aug 20 13:51:57 emte: what does it matter? not every app has to be an "e" app Aug 20 13:52:05 herren: be sure to update before trying an e-image, I just comitted a missing file Aug 20 13:52:21 yeah, i'm following along... thanks. Aug 20 13:52:37 then why build it at all if you cant use the features e is renowned for? Aug 20 13:52:56 emte: it's not like you need to install the GPE WM or the modules or anything like that to use the apps Aug 20 13:53:12 emte: I don't know what you mean Aug 20 13:53:33 emte: *some* apps are written with EFL, some are not. What you run depends on what you want.' Aug 20 13:53:44 transparancy, non-rectangular windows, canvas overlays, animated components Aug 20 13:53:44 it people write more e apps, I'll add them Aug 20 13:54:26 * emte shrugges Aug 20 13:55:47 sure...but that's an app-level decision IMHO Aug 20 13:56:25 my aim wasn't to build an e only image, my aim was to give people the option of using e rather than GPE as a WM Aug 20 13:57:06 anyway, it's working now and it should eb possible to build an e-only image if someone wants to Aug 20 13:57:31 but that would require rewriting all sorts of apps for e Aug 20 13:57:42 I'll be back later Aug 20 13:58:46 i'm trying to build an image -- as slim-downed as possible, to be as fast as possible -- to run an XUL app in minimo... i was thinking the e-image would be a nice way of getting rid of all the gpe overhead. does this seem right? Aug 20 13:59:04 no Aug 20 13:59:06 * reenoo_ rotfl Aug 20 13:59:08 i assume i'll still GTK+ stuff for minimo, right? Aug 20 13:59:50 herren: the e-image is somewhere around 80 megs in size. you don't want that Aug 20 14:00:02 ah Aug 20 14:00:58 given that i don't really need the desktop/app-switcher because I want to launch minimo on startup, can I cut stuff out of a gpe-image? Aug 20 14:01:28 you can Aug 20 14:02:27 what is the app-switcher, actually? a gpe thing or a matchbox thing? Aug 20 14:02:57 I don't know what you mean by app-switcher Aug 20 14:03:20 the desktop, where you launch apps from Aug 20 14:03:33 herren: that depends, normally it is matchbox-desktop Aug 20 14:03:56 right. or gpe-appmgr Aug 20 14:04:29 reenoo_: gpe-appmgr for BigScreen devices right? Aug 20 14:04:39 right... and i don't need that, so I could take it out? I also just want to run the app full-screen, does that allow me to cut out anything more and/or is there a way to specify full-screen when you launch an app Aug 20 14:05:09 matchbox-desktop... i'm working on h5550s Aug 20 14:05:12 herren: simply use a Xsession that spawns minimo fullscreen? Aug 20 14:05:16 zecke: used to be the default there. not sure about the current situation Aug 20 14:05:26 'use a Xsession script' Aug 20 14:05:31 that's what I was looking for Aug 20 14:05:49 herren: you can (hopefully) say gpe-dm what to launch when you login Aug 20 14:06:03 herren: then you would only need X, gtk+, minimo Aug 20 14:06:15 herren: you want a herren-image that includes only your needed software Aug 20 14:06:17 and not anything GPE or matchbox? Aug 20 14:06:25 yeah, that'd be great Aug 20 14:06:38 herren: I don't think that the speed changes though Aug 20 14:06:56 it'll save me room if nothing else though Aug 20 14:07:01 herren: I guess you can start minimo in fullscreen mode, just like any good X application (-geometry) Aug 20 14:07:22 herren: look at package/meta/gpe-image.bb and see if you can alter that Aug 20 14:07:36 alright, thanks... Aug 20 14:07:47 one last thing, what's the geometry thing? Aug 20 14:08:33 hey france Aug 20 14:08:40 * france is away: Away Aug 20 14:08:56 * france is back (gone 00:00:11) Aug 20 14:09:14 reenoo_: you caught me. :-D Aug 20 14:09:16 reenoo_: hi Aug 20 14:09:41 herren: man X Aug 20 14:09:52 cheers... Aug 20 14:09:54 ~hail france Aug 20 14:09:54 * ibot bows down to france and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 20 14:09:58 herren: I'd suggest you try to get a working minimo before spending your time writing a new image .bb Aug 20 14:10:06 zecke: hello Aug 20 14:10:27 herren: getting it working sounds like the best idea ;) Aug 20 14:10:38 that's what I'm doing now... it failed the last time, we'll see if i get now Aug 20 14:11:06 herren: note that I'm not talking about the build here Aug 20 14:11:50 then you lost me... i've got an older minimo build (from feb. or so) that we're using now, and works Aug 20 14:12:32 minimo may be troublesome in some regards, but i've found that for running a local XUL app is ok Aug 20 14:12:40 though not as fast as i'd like Aug 20 14:13:13 yeah it starts raining Aug 20 14:14:04 herren: ah, I that case you may want to set CVSDATE to what you used for the working build to avoid random breakage Aug 20 14:15:47 yeah, that works, but doug turner's put a lot of changes into the minimo code lately -- particularly XUL-related stuff -- so I'm hoping to get a more recent one working. Aug 20 14:17:16 unrelated, when i was playing with other .bb packages earlier today, gpe-calendar kept crapping out because it wanted version .103 of libwidget while www.oesources.org only had .100... does .103 exist? Aug 20 14:19:27 libgpewidget 0.103 exists, yeah Aug 20 14:20:08 funny... i'll try it again after this minimo attempt, then Aug 20 14:20:54 bitbake should pull it from hh.org though. not sure why that isn't working for you Aug 20 14:21:23 yeah, it would first try from gpe.handhelds.org/projects/gpe/source Aug 20 14:21:25 but get a 404 Aug 20 14:24:43 c = sqrt(fma(a, a, (b*b))); Aug 20 14:24:47 that look right? Aug 20 14:25:01 for good ol' pythagoras Aug 20 14:26:40 herren: well. the file exists and downloads fine here Aug 20 14:27:08 alright... i'll check my end out again. thanks.... Aug 20 14:54:13 I'm trying to build gpe-image but the build broke at xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207, with various errors building fboverlay about ShmFuncs and ShmFuncsPtr. Aug 20 14:54:32 All the other X things (Xext, Render, etc.) that were built were versions 0.0cvs20050820. How do I get OE to build the 20050820 version of xserver-kdrive? Aug 20 14:55:19 to my knowledge current kdrive is broken Aug 20 14:55:36 current as in CVS HEAD that is Aug 20 14:56:36 and yes, the floating CVS versions of all those X libs are a problem Aug 20 15:00:35 mreimer_: but to answer your question.. cp packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050624.bb packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050820.bb should work Aug 20 15:01:20 may need to adjust some PREFERRED_VERSION stuff as well if that's set in your configuration Aug 20 15:01:32 reenoo_: thanks. I thought it was just my config Aug 20 15:02:32 well. you could try just PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "cvs". but I'm not sure whether that will work Aug 20 15:02:47 reenoo_: in my build/conf/local.conf? Aug 20 15:02:54 yeah Aug 20 15:03:30 hmm Aug 20 15:03:40 does fms() exist? Aug 20 15:03:50 reenoo_: can I specify PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive = "cvs20050624"? Aug 20 15:03:56 fast multipy subtract Aug 20 15:05:27 mreimer_: hmm. isn't that built by default? Aug 20 15:05:46 i suppose i could just switch the add to a negative ... Aug 20 15:06:01 emte: how is that on topic? Aug 20 15:06:45 reenoo_: what's getting built when I don't specify anything is cvs20050207 Aug 20 15:06:48 writting stuff to be used/ Aug 20 15:06:50 ? Aug 20 15:07:09 reenoo_: I'm using DISTRO="familiar-0.8.3" Aug 20 15:09:11 mreimer_: hmm, odd. Aug 20 15:10:16 reenoo_: do you know whether xserver-kdrive 20050624 contains mallum's tslib fixes? Aug 20 15:10:28 emte: I don't think you'd want me to discuss applications development stuff either in this channel. so please take that up with #e or whatever Aug 20 15:11:05 mreimer_: dunno. all I know is that 20050624 is expected to work Aug 20 15:12:14 reenoo_, alright, i'll just msg myself Aug 20 15:18:42 mreimer_: I'm running a gpe-image build right now (parsing and stuff will take a while) to see if I can reproduce that Aug 20 15:19:09 reenoo_: thanks for your help. It will take a while here too, on my lowly PIII 450MHz + 384M RAM Aug 20 15:20:54 mreimer_: np. I'm working on the .conf files anyway right now :) Aug 20 15:21:22 mreimer_: that hurts (your system specs) Aug 20 15:24:19 zecke: fwiw, that's what I was referring to when I said not everyone own a dual opteron to run monotone on... Aug 20 15:24:27 zecke: yes, it does. monotone takes at least an hour (two?) to update, and then the bitbake parsing takes, uh, a long time Aug 20 15:24:29 s/own/owns/ Aug 20 15:24:50 I've 50 Mhz more and some more ram (100mb) but I do not use it for such tasks Aug 20 15:25:39 zecke: my main work machine is a 2.8GHz P4, but it runs FreeBSD. I tried getting OE running on it, but it was taking too much of my time. Better to spend CPU time than my time, at this point. Aug 20 15:25:41 reenoo_: yes performance is unfortunate Aug 20 15:25:54 does anyone run OE on FreeBSD? Aug 20 15:26:01 mreimer_: not fully Aug 20 15:26:16 mreimer_: it comes past ipkg-native and flex-native fails Aug 20 15:27:12 mreimer_: quilt does not work, but a patched patcher Aug 20 15:27:35 mreimer_: at least monotone works ;) Aug 20 15:28:35 zecke: yes :-) Aug 20 15:28:37 zecke: I had to install gmake, GNU patch, wget, GNU file utils (for cp -a, chmod --reference=file), and mess with automake/lib/config.sub to check for -FreeBSD* not just -freebsd* Aug 20 15:29:02 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r47c741e2... 10/conf/machine/nslu2.conf: Set CVSDATE for ipkg-utils for nslu2 firmware. Aug 20 15:29:54 * france is away: Away Aug 20 15:30:19 mreimer_: gnu file is not needed anymore Aug 20 15:31:14 zecke: ah, good Aug 20 15:32:18 anyone in here compile asterisk? I can't find the 'zaptel' .bb stuff Aug 20 15:37:33 is the zaptel library available for OE? Aug 20 15:37:43 dwildes: there was a bug report you could check Aug 20 15:38:23 be happy to - where can I check? Aug 20 15:38:52 see /topic Aug 20 15:39:29 ah - thanks, I'll take a look Aug 20 15:43:25 mreimer_: looks like 20050207 is picked because koen set DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "1" Aug 20 15:44:06 mreimer_: so it may actually be the last known working version Aug 20 15:45:30 is there a way to find out if anyone is working on adding a .bb for zaptel and/or libpri? If not, I'd be willing to do it, gonna have to do it anyway if there isn't one Aug 20 15:53:12 reenoo_: how can I override that? Aug 20 15:53:42 reenoo_: you can tell I'm new to OE Aug 20 15:56:19 mreimer_: hmm. not sure. I don't think you can override it from a conf file. my best bet would be to remove that line from the .bb Aug 20 15:56:30 reenoo_: ok, I'll try that. Aug 20 15:56:44 koen, you around? Aug 20 15:57:28 koen is at a festival I believe Aug 20 15:57:38 ah thanks Aug 20 16:05:35 reenoo_: that was it. I decided to try cvs, so I changed the cvs bb's DEFAULT_PREFERENCE from -2 to 2, and now it is being built. I suppose I can change the 20050624 bb DEFAULT_PREFERENCE and then it will build. thanks! I've been puzzled for some time about how to get it to build. Aug 20 16:08:11 mreimer_: normally you would set PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive, rather than fiddling with the DEFAULT_PREFERENCEs. Aug 20 16:09:00 not that there's anything wrong with the latter, but it means you end up carrying around a lot of edits in your local copy of the .bb files. Aug 20 16:09:06 pb_: I tried that in build/conf/local.conf (set it to "cvs"), but it was still picking up 20050207. Does that override DEFAULT_PREFERENCE? Aug 20 16:09:21 pb_: yeah, I'd rather not have local tweaks Aug 20 16:09:42 the problem is that the .bb overrides PV Aug 20 16:09:45 mreimer_: you need to set it to the actual value of, which would probably be something like "0.0cvs${CVSDATE}". Aug 20 16:09:54 er, "actual value of ${PV}" Aug 20 16:10:37 but yes, PREFERRED_VERSION will beat DEFAULT_PREFERENCE. Aug 20 16:10:39 pb_: so for instance, 0.0cvs20050624? Aug 20 16:10:58 for instance, yes, but you can leave ${CVSDATE} in there symbolically. Aug 20 16:11:10 bitbake will expand both sides before it compares them Aug 20 16:11:42 pb_: who sets ${CVSDATE}? Aug 20 16:12:18 bitbake.conf, but you can override it in local.conf Aug 20 16:12:46 pb_: would that affect all bb that reference Aug 20 16:12:52 s ${CVSDATE}? Aug 20 16:13:25 yes, but you can set (for example) CVSDATE_xserver-kdrive = "...", if you want to affect only one package. Aug 20 16:14:10 pb_: ahhhhh Aug 20 16:14:13 I get it now Aug 20 16:14:40 (that syntax doesn't work in general to set arbitrary variables to package-specific values, but CVSDATE has special dispensation) Aug 20 16:15:02 so CVSDATE_xserver-kdrive = "20050624"? Aug 20 16:15:06 right Aug 20 16:15:21 does there need to be a bb corresponding to that value? Aug 20 16:15:26 or is the _cvs.bb used? Aug 20 16:16:18 the _cvs .bb will suffice, but you'll also need to set PREFERRED_VERSION_xserver-kdrive appropriately to encourage bitbake to pick that one. Aug 20 16:17:39 I think I understand. I'll try it. Aug 20 16:24:48 I wonder if we can switch to release versions at least for the libraries Aug 20 16:26:41 Is there a reason why xserver-kdrive 20050207 is still the default, rather than 20050624 or newer? At least the 20050624 doesn't crash on resume Aug 20 16:27:17 do keys work with 20050624? Aug 20 16:32:45 reenoo_: I don't know; once I get this built, I'll let you know. Aug 20 16:58:11 I've added a few directories to the 'packages' directory - but whenever I add the package under 'IPKG_INSTALL', it says it can't find the package. I can build the packages fine with 'bitbake '. Aug 20 16:58:33 Is there a file I need to add to let IPKG understand where the package is? Aug 20 17:04:11 I'm building an OE-based distro for the Zaurus (Poodle), and I need to link against a proprietary library that wasn't compiled for software floating point. Do I need to recompile everything without TARGET_FPU set to "soft", or is there another solution? Aug 20 17:08:38 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r75da9456... 10/packages/efl++/ (4 files): efl++: create .inc file, split into a .bb for -x11 and a .bb for -fb Aug 20 17:08:42 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r84aceb98... 10/packages/evince/evince_0.3.2.bb: evince rdepends on gconf Aug 20 17:08:46 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfbc9813e... 10/packages/maemo/osso-gnome-vfs2_2.8.4.4-1.bb: make osso-gnome-vfs2 not PROVIDE gnome-vfs2. If it really PROVIDES it you should add a virtual/gnome-vfs2 providee Aug 20 17:15:59 Is there an issue with building glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627 for x86? Aug 20 17:16:45 I noticed that glibc 2.3.3 is preferred for i586 and 8686 (but not i386). Aug 20 17:18:14 mattcamp: my glibc-2.3.5 compiled okay for i386 Aug 20 17:18:22 I'm using machine x86 Aug 20 17:18:48 I just done a 'bitbake bootstrap-image' Aug 20 17:19:09 Did you have to add any extra options in local.conf, like GLIBC_ADDONS or GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF? Aug 20 17:19:22 yeah - I did make a few mods to my local.conf Aug 20 17:19:27 I'll paste them, just a sec Aug 20 17:19:28 Maybe I need to update my working copy of OE; I pulled from monotone about two weeks ago. Aug 20 17:20:06 I have this extra in local.conf: Aug 20 17:20:08 PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc = "4.0.0" Aug 20 17:20:08 PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc = "2.3.2" Aug 20 17:20:08 PREFERRED_VERSION_ntp = "4.2.0" Aug 20 17:20:08 PREFERRED_VERSION_pcmcia_cs = "3.2.9" Aug 20 17:20:18 I'm running Fedora Core 4, btw Aug 20 17:20:48 I am running a very up-to-date monotone db as well Aug 20 17:22:02 dwildes: I'm moderately sure bitbake did not build glibc 2.3.5 if what you pasted is your local.conf Aug 20 17:22:17 s/is/is in/ Aug 20 17:23:07 (note the 2.3.2 in PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc = "2.3.2") Aug 20 17:23:20 I was thinking the same thing. Aug 20 17:23:51 Aug 20 17:23:57 yeah - you're right on closer inspection Aug 20 17:24:07 this one did compile though: glibc-2.3.2-r6 Aug 20 17:24:14 I checked the log files this time :) Aug 20 17:24:35 2.3.2 is probably safer anyway. Aug 20 17:25:09 not sure - but it does work at least Aug 20 17:25:24 dwildes: gcc 4.0.0 wow Aug 20 17:26:12 zecke: gcc not gcc-cross Aug 20 17:27:09 zecke: so I don't think it was used for the build Aug 20 17:27:26 is gcc 4 not a good thing or something? Aug 20 17:28:09 gcc 4 is more picky about a couple of things Aug 20 17:28:27 reenoo_: and known miscompiling on X86, I'm sure there are bugs for ARM as well Aug 20 17:28:45 so far, so good for me - I'm just learning the ropes with OE though Aug 20 17:28:53 mattcamp: there is some kind of issue with NTPL support on x86 Aug 20 17:29:12 dwildes: but as reenoo said 'gcc' is probably ignore anyway Aug 20 17:29:22 zecke: heh. really? that would suck given that sid is being moved to gcc 4 Aug 20 17:29:38 reenoo_: gcc4.0.0 is Aug 20 17:29:50 reenoo_: gcc4.0.1 is better Aug 20 17:30:53 zecke: what kind of issue with NTPL are you thinking of? I believe pb_ said linuxthreads was deprecated on x86 Aug 20 17:31:09 s/of?/off?/ Aug 20 17:31:15 err no Aug 20 17:31:21 reenoo_: I remember the 'recent' thread on oe@hh.org Aug 20 17:31:39 reenoo_: pb_ uses NTPL? then NTPL is good and the traditonal linuxthread build is broken Aug 20 17:31:56 mattcamp: try making use of the oe@handhelds.org mailing list archive Aug 20 17:32:12 * zecke continue with his stl struggle Aug 20 17:33:09 zecke: still have a h3800 btw? Aug 20 17:33:25 well - I've gotten asterisk, zaptel, & libpri to compile cleanly with oe - but I just don't know how to finish the job to make them 'ipkg' to load in the image. Are there any howto's / tutorials that tell how to make the package a .ipkg? Aug 20 17:34:24 Aug 20 17:34:25 reenoo_: yes, with a non bootable 2.6kernel Aug 20 17:35:05 dwildes: puth INHERIT += "package_ipk" into your local.conf (normally it is set by the distribution you set) Aug 20 17:35:07 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rffa4e887... 10/classes/module.bbclass: module.bbclass: run depmod/update-modules in postinst/postrm Aug 20 17:35:11 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rd185120a... 10/packages/at76c503a/at76c503a-modules_cvs.bb: at76c503a-modules: running update-modules is now done by module.bbclass Aug 20 17:35:16 03rw 07org.oe.dev * ra20806f8... 10/packages/bt950-cs/bt950-cs_0.1.bb: bt950-cs: running depmod is now done by module.bbclass Aug 20 17:35:20 dwildes: there is also package_tar and maybe even package_rpm work Aug 20 17:35:27 zecke: well. if you ever decide to downgrade to 2.4... you can use alsa again now and ditch the crappy OSS drivers Aug 20 17:35:30 dwildes: check tmp/deploy/*/ Aug 20 17:35:37 zecke: excellent! thanks - that should be the last step for me! :) Aug 20 17:35:44 reenoo_: cracking has gone? Aug 20 17:35:55 zecke: with alsa? yes Aug 20 17:35:59 reenoo_: cool thanks, I won't use the h3800 before I port the 2.6er kernel Aug 20 17:36:05 reenoo_: kewl, less stuff to port to 2.6 Aug 20 17:36:45 zecke: yeah, I had checked there (tmp/deploy) for the ipk - but it wasn't there, just didn't see where to make it happen Aug 20 17:37:30 dwildes: ls openembedded/classes/package_*.bbclass should show all available formats Aug 20 17:37:37 dwildes: but one can only build a rootfs from ipk Aug 20 17:37:42 zecke: well. I guess you'll have to port the hh.org bits from alsa-driver. alsa-driver 0.9.6 isn't exactly recent ;) Aug 20 17:41:46 anyways Aug 20 17:41:48 'night all Aug 20 17:42:10 wow that current? (alsa 0.9.6) Aug 20 18:19:25 03ka6sox 07org.oe.dev * r736b526a... 10/packages/linux/ (nslu2-kernel_2.6.12.2.bb openslug-kernel-2.6.12.2/defconfig): Added usb-audio support Aug 20 18:35:32 zecke: I just tried adding 'sqlite' to my local.conf - and I still got the error: Aug 20 18:35:33 Collected errors: Aug 20 18:35:33 | Cannot find package sqlite. Aug 20 18:36:09 I've got to be missing something else Aug 20 18:36:45 The is how I have it in my local.conf: INHERIT = "package_sqlite" Aug 20 18:42:53 dwildes: hehe package_sqlite would mean package the installed content of an application into a sqlite database Aug 20 18:43:04 dwildes: use bitbake sqlite to build a sqlite ipk Aug 20 18:43:38 dwildes: or if you build a *-image or meta-* alter that file to depend on DEPENDS/RDEPENDS on sqlite as well Aug 20 18:43:48 dwildes: to build sqlite version3 do bitbake sqlite3 Aug 20 18:43:59 ah - the last thing you mentioned - I'm trying to link the build to an image Aug 20 18:44:13 I can do a 'bitbake sqlite' and it completes fine Aug 20 18:46:28 I've got the package in DEPENDS of my image, and the 'dwildes-image' compiles, but when I load up the image, I don't have sqlite in the embedded OS. Aug 20 18:46:45 dwildes: you need to fill IPKG_INSTALL and RDEPENDS as well Aug 20 18:46:57 dwildes: DEPENDS contain the build time dependencies Aug 20 18:47:06 dwildes: and RDEPENDS should contain what you need to install Aug 20 18:47:07 if I add the file into the 'export IPKG_INSTALL ' section, it errors with - can't find the package sqlite Aug 20 18:47:28 ah - I don't have an RDEPENDS section in my image file Aug 20 18:47:35 dwildes: you might need to call libsqlite Aug 20 18:47:46 dwildes: if you have IPKG_INSTALL it could be fine Aug 20 18:48:23 dwildes: a 'Provider' (e.g. sqlite) could create any package it wants Aug 20 18:48:23 I do have the IPKG_INSTALL - but it says it can't find sqlite, event though I can do a 'bitbake sqlite' Aug 20 18:48:35 do you think I need to add the RDEPENDS piece? Aug 20 18:48:44 dwildes: ls tmp/deploy/*sqlite* ? Aug 20 18:48:54 just a sec Aug 20 18:49:46 tmp/deploy - only has images & ipk Aug 20 18:49:55 and there is no sqlite in ipk Aug 20 18:50:36 tmp/deploy/ipk/*sqlite* then Aug 20 18:51:05 nothing there Aug 20 18:51:16 for sqlite anyway Aug 20 18:51:37 dwildes: what did it say it packaged? Aug 20 18:53:21 I don't remember seeing it package - but it does compile cleanly if I do a 'bitbake sqlite' - that my trouble though, I don't know how to make it create the ipk Aug 20 18:53:52 I think if bitbake would create the ipkg for it, I would be okay - I just don't know how to do it Aug 20 18:54:46 if you have INHERIT += "package_ipk" bitbake/oe creates packages for you Aug 20 18:55:17 wait - I just noticed you have +=, I'm using just one = Aug 20 18:55:27 think that's the trouble? Aug 20 18:56:25 dwildes: as I said normally your distribution (e.g DISTRO = "umbaumba-01.90") sets that Aug 20 18:56:40 I do have INHERIT = package_ipk set Aug 20 18:56:45 but if you replace it with something different it could explain it Aug 20 18:56:54 dwildes: as you recognized, use += Aug 20 18:57:04 ok - let me give that a shot Aug 20 18:57:09 dwildes: now bitbake/OE does not recognize it needs to rebuild the package Aug 20 18:57:32 dwildes: you can do bitbake -b openembedded/packages/sqlite/sqlite_your_version.bb -cclean Aug 20 18:57:38 and then bitbake sqlite again Aug 20 18:57:55 cool - I'll give that a try too Aug 20 19:06:12 hey cool - the '+=' was the problem all along :-$ Aug 20 19:06:36 it's making the .ipk files now - thanks a bunch zecke!!!! Aug 20 20:36:20 Aug 20 20:40:47 dwildes: you're welcome Aug 20 20:41:23 raster, do you see a problem with this? http://oe.pastebin.com/342016 Aug 20 20:41:47 gives a segfault calling it Aug 20 20:43:52 maybe i need to return the object instead ... Aug 20 20:50:24 yeah that looks like it Aug 21 02:15:58 hi to all ... Aug 21 02:26:52 i am always getting the message : NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libgcc_s.so.1 Aug 21 02:27:06 can i ignore this warning Aug 21 02:27:34 yes yes ... happen also to me Aug 21 02:28:16 i did not understand. what he means by provider ?. how many providers are there for libgcc ? Aug 21 02:28:52 mhh no seem there is no a profider defined for libgcc if i remember correct ... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 21 02:59:56 2005