**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 26 02:59:56 2005 Aug 26 03:00:07 ~lart Rose and VSS Aug 26 03:00:07 * ibot cuts off Rose and VSS's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper Aug 26 03:00:13 ~lart RP Aug 26 03:00:13 * ibot DoSes RP Aug 26 03:00:55 RP: anyway I have /sys/bus/platform/devices/corgi-ts/ Aug 26 03:01:34 hrw|work: Yes, but somehow the resources structure doesn't get added to the device - see the compile warning Aug 26 03:01:53 I also know what's wrong with the battery. Someone only half renamed things... Aug 26 03:02:37 arch/arm/mach-pxa/corgi.c:147: warning: 'corgits_resources' defined but not used Aug 26 03:02:53 hrw|work: exactly Aug 26 03:03:10 sound/oss/pxa-i2s_corgi.c: In function `corgi_ct_law': Aug 26 03:03:10 sound/oss/pxa-i2s_corgi.c:280: warning: comparison of distinct pointer types lacks a cast Aug 26 03:03:14 ;) Aug 26 03:03:35 I don't care about that one - its been there since I ported sound in ;-) Aug 26 03:03:47 ; Aug 26 03:04:12 RP: so I need r12 or wait for r16? Aug 26 03:04:27 wait a minute and it will be fixed in -r16 Aug 26 03:04:45 ok Aug 26 03:13:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3ebe797f... 10/packages/rrdtool/rrdtool_1.0.49.bb: rrdtool: fix SRC_URI Aug 26 03:17:56 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r80cd2f23... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files): linux-oz-2.6: Fix corgi touchscreen and power management issues. Update urls in 2.6.11 kernel Aug 26 03:18:44 hrw|work: There you go - hopefully that will fix things Aug 26 03:18:56 will check Aug 26 03:19:22 2.6.13-rc5-mm1 will be oz 3.5.4 kernel? Aug 26 03:21:43 hrw|work: Its had the most resting. I might bump to -rc6, I don't know Aug 26 03:21:54 most *testing* Aug 26 03:22:25 I'm all for removing 2.6.11 as such a lot has changed for the better Aug 26 03:22:51 sure Aug 26 03:22:54 The only regression I'm aware of is a couple of sound bugs Aug 26 03:23:21 mickeyl updated opie to autorotate support? Aug 26 03:24:29 ${RPSRC}/input_power-r2.patch;patch=1 \ Aug 26 03:24:46 that line has whitespace at end which should be avoided Aug 26 03:25:14 hrw|work: Ok, I'll nuke it at the next checkin Aug 26 03:26:27 C parses 'chokes' on it Aug 26 03:28:26 Is the C parser part of bitbake now? Aug 26 03:29:12 not yet Aug 26 03:29:35 but some time ago there was changesets which just remove that kind of whitespaces Aug 26 03:29:59 Yes, I remember and do try not to do it. It was accidental Aug 26 03:30:17 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.13-rc6-mm2-r16: task do_patch: completed Aug 26 03:34:13 hrw|work: had probs with ftp.handhelds.org... going to try www. Aug 26 03:35:31 ZonE-HaKin9|: do not set GPE_MIRROR at all Aug 26 03:36:35 hrw|work:ok just noticed its /download/projects.... Aug 26 03:44:13 hrw|work: think the wiki need to be ---> http://ftp.handhelds.org/downloads/projects/gpe/source Aug 26 03:45:53 ZonE-HaKin9|: listen to hrw|work Aug 26 03:46:50 i have, but the wiki is still incorrect... thats all i'm try to say sorry... Aug 26 03:47:37 ZonE-HaKin9|: ah, change it then, or remove the bit that tells you to set that, whichever is the better solution Aug 26 03:47:38 {ft,h}tp://handhelds.org/pub/projects/gpe/source Aug 26 03:49:22 ah, it's good to see the little-used fttp and htp protocols being put to use Aug 26 03:49:29 D'oh Aug 26 03:49:59 d'oh sorry the pub is also correct Aug 26 03:51:43 btw should i have any predefind mirror in my local.conf anyway?? should i comment them all out? Aug 26 03:52:07 local.conf!?!? Aug 26 03:52:18 they should only be in bitbake.conf Aug 26 03:53:55 using mirrors on the wiki said it... so i followed.. Aug 26 03:54:02 brb Aug 26 03:55:31 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.13-rc6-mm2-r16: task do_build: completed Aug 26 03:57:09 morning folks Aug 26 03:57:27 hi mickeyl Aug 26 03:57:40 mickeyl: I know what will land first in upgrades Aug 26 03:58:21 hrw|work: which thign? Aug 26 03:58:54 mickeyl: libopie2 with sqlite3 support into "upgrades/manual-install/" Aug 26 03:59:12 otherwise my Zauruses wont work with oz 3.5.4 Aug 26 03:59:30 you are actually using sqlite support? Aug 26 03:59:34 yes Aug 26 03:59:37 i think you are the only one i know Aug 26 03:59:43 it has more features then xml one Aug 26 04:00:14 it'll be temporarily disabled only. when we use altboot as standard we'll reenable it again Aug 26 04:00:48 maybe better will be remove openswan or opie-style-{liquid, metal}? Aug 26 04:01:23 I'd rather not change handheld-common.conf Aug 26 04:01:34 there would be a need for a more fine granular handheld-common.conf Aug 26 04:01:45 e.g. like opie-collectiosn.inc Aug 26 04:01:51 just defining some tasks or so Aug 26 04:02:42 ipv6-support, ipsec-support, pcmcia-support etc Aug 26 04:03:17 yeah Aug 26 04:03:20 mickeyl: remove liquid and metal styles from 16M flash devices and it will gain more space for us Aug 26 04:04:13 hmm Aug 26 04:04:15 * mickeyl undecide Aug 26 04:04:16 d Aug 26 04:04:39 liquid and metal are ugly anyway Aug 26 04:04:42 they use too much screenspace to be usable on qvga Aug 26 04:06:31 hi mickeyl Aug 26 04:06:36 * koen uses flat & fresh Aug 26 04:06:40 I would anyway vote for removing ipsec from images - it's 1.5M Aug 26 04:06:58 hi pb_ Aug 26 04:09:58 morning mickeyl Aug 26 04:14:13 booting... Aug 26 04:19:39 RP: any idea if the switches extension will hit mainline soon? Aug 26 04:21:07 what filesytem would you all recommend for using with oe? my reiser3fs seems to craw after a while (rm -rf tmp when things go wrong etc) Aug 26 04:21:50 dopez: I'm pretty satisfied with xfs Aug 26 04:22:00 dopez: I use reiserfs Aug 26 04:22:28 reiserfs here, too Aug 26 04:22:40 i was thinking to try reiser4 because of so many (small) files makes deleting a directory so slow Aug 26 04:22:49 xfs/ext3 here Aug 26 04:23:25 * koen has scripts and a big supply of coffee to handle the waiting Aug 26 04:23:32 hehe Aug 26 04:23:48 i'm glad i run the compile/etc not on my own box :) Aug 26 04:24:34 RP: touchscreen works with r16 Aug 26 04:24:54 mickeyl: Its in -mm. I expect it to roll into mainline once 2.6.13 is out Aug 26 04:25:15 hrw|work: yay :) Aug 26 04:26:05 RP: opie batteryapplet say: "remaining power: 83%, power on-line" :) Aug 26 04:26:13 mickeyl: -mm acts as a feeder for mainline Aug 26 04:26:16 RP: usb charge/sync connected Aug 26 04:26:26 hrw|work: Yes, I tweaked that for you, breaking the specs ;-) Aug 26 04:26:44 RP: but its 80% now.. Aug 26 04:27:06 root@c7x0:~# cat /proc/apm Aug 26 04:27:07 1.13 1.2 0x02 0x01 0x00 0x01 83% -1 ? Aug 26 04:27:35 one day I'll learn what those numbers mean... Aug 26 04:28:14 I can't remember offhand! Aug 26 04:29:09 driver-version bios-version Aug 26 04:30:40 apm-flags ac-line-status battery-status battery-flags battery-percent battery-time kludged-battery-percent Aug 26 04:31:00 http://www.neilvandyke.org/linux-proc-apm-scm/linux-proc-apm.html Aug 26 04:38:10 oooh, battery status works in apm now, WOW Aug 26 04:40:56 udev 068 has to be sorted... it does not start Aug 26 04:45:38 probably because our start script doesn't come from udev but is an extra one Aug 26 04:45:46 no idea where it comes from, but it's outdated Aug 26 04:46:55 ah.. Aug 26 04:49:58 isn't there something in bugzilla about that? Aug 26 04:51:14 Koen I just sent out a mail regarding oe-nl meeting Aug 26 04:51:22 It will be on sunday at my place Aug 26 04:51:32 * koen just updated his iCal Aug 26 04:52:20 hmm.. how to best backup / on c7x0 before reboot with changed udev start... Aug 26 04:52:39 If somebody has some high resolution pics than I would like to make some oe-t-shirts Aug 26 04:53:06 gerwinin: iirc oe logo is vector Aug 26 04:54:14 Can I open that with sodipodi ? Aug 26 04:56:29 Koen : Is there still some hardware I should get for distri under oe developers ? Aug 26 04:57:11 I still got some gps receivers pcmcia - pci adapters Aug 26 04:58:24 hrw|work: boot new image with root on SD Aug 26 04:58:43 XorA: dont have free sd here ;( Aug 26 04:58:50 gerwinin: the OE logo should be in contrib/ Aug 26 04:59:16 hrw|work: nip over to scotland I lend one :-) Aug 26 04:59:23 Koen: Okay Aug 26 04:59:34 ../monotone/openembedded/contrib/oe.svg Aug 26 04:59:43 XorA: I can backup / into /home Aug 26 05:01:40 gerwinin: how far is your home from the looierstraat? Aug 26 05:04:08 ozone rule as a tool to dump Z Aug 26 05:05:14 Not really far Aug 26 07:05:08 hi all Aug 26 07:05:19 hey florian_kc Aug 26 07:05:39 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rd3de05a5... 10/packages/meta/meta-sdk.bb: meta-sdk: remove obsolete libxsettings. Aug 26 07:05:43 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra4e8da76... 10/packages/libxsettings-client/libxsettings-client_0.14.bb: libxsettings-client: Add V 0.14 Aug 26 07:05:47 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rfeaca122... 10/packages/libschedule/libschedule_0.15.bb: libschedule: Add V 0.15. Courtesy by Philippe de Swert. Aug 26 07:05:51 03florian 07org.oe.dev * ra4323ae1... 10/packages/gpe-announce/gpe-announce_0.13.bb: gpe-announce: Add V 0.13. Contributed by Philippe de Swert. Aug 26 07:05:55 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf570fb95... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.63.bb: gpe-calendar: Add version 0.63, contributed by Philippe de Swert. Aug 26 07:05:59 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r41853f4a... 10/packages/gpe-clock/gpe-clock_0.21.bb: gpe-clock: Add release 0.21, contributed by Philippe de Swert. Aug 26 07:06:05 Here is the half of a new gpe ;-) Aug 26 07:06:36 koen: Did you have success with gpe-package? Aug 26 07:06:39 florian_kc: we already have newer gpe-conf? (that one with fontname for terminal)? Aug 26 07:06:48 florian_kc: NOTE: package gtk+-2.6.7-r1: task do_compile: started Aug 26 07:07:23 hrw|work: yes... i released this two days ago. Aug 26 07:07:31 cool Aug 26 07:08:05 florian_kc: will gpe gain some kind of method to setup font used by matchbox-panel? Aug 26 07:10:23 hrw|work: there is no plan to do so at the moment, i'm not sure if that is defined in the theme only. Aug 26 07:10:31 ah Aug 26 07:10:51 mallum: I guess you might know :-) Aug 26 07:11:23 It would be useful for devices with a high display resolution... Aug 26 07:12:02 on vga zaurus it's nearly not readable for me Aug 26 07:12:29 Right... the same issue like on the hx4700 and the 770 Aug 26 07:13:07 If this doesn't work we should invest some work in themes and to get the right themes into the images. Aug 26 07:13:14 i am trying to modify gpe-nmf : playlist_edit.c - i dont want the tree buttons that appear on select file widget. i have added the line gtk_file_selection_hide_fileop_buttons (GTK_FILE_SELECTION(fs)); but when i start the select file widget they appear as as before. should i make any other changes to get it reflected ? Aug 26 07:14:08 * florian_kc checks Aug 26 07:15:00 eJumbo: #gpe Aug 26 07:15:04 hmm... on my ipaq i don't have these buttons Aug 26 07:15:18 ah wait.. that's a gtk patch Aug 26 07:18:21 * XorA has no problems with font size of matchbox on VGA Z's Aug 26 07:18:52 XorA: congratulations Aug 26 07:19:11 define nearly not readably Aug 26 07:21:00 "a1m03tbUtn0tqUit3", I guess Aug 26 07:21:18 pb_: :-D Aug 26 07:21:25 if GPE wants to support every device and its uncle, I guess they need to make themes for every device and its uncle ... Aug 26 07:21:32 ~mornings Aug 26 07:21:33 Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) Aug 26 07:21:38 ~botsnack Aug 26 07:21:39 kergoth: thanks Aug 26 07:21:50 ah, kergoth awakens Aug 26 07:21:51 I know I can comfortably read mine at same distance as the monitor on my desktop is away from me (1 desks width) Aug 26 07:21:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2a4b0586... 10/packages/gpe-package/gpe-package_0.3.bb: gpe-package 0.3: add to repo Aug 26 07:21:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r23a6ba32... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: Aug 26 07:21:57 conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: updates Aug 26 07:21:57 libschedule -> 0.15 Aug 26 07:21:57 gpe-calendar -> 0.63 Aug 26 07:21:57 gpe-clock -> 0.21 Aug 26 07:21:58 gpe-package -> 0.3 Aug 26 07:22:10 pb_: indeed Aug 26 07:22:32 my gf is visiting (she lives out of state) in a couple hours, and my house is trashed. /me is frantically cleaning Aug 26 07:22:49 heh Aug 26 07:23:56 kergoth: the only time geeks clean Aug 26 07:24:25 * kergoth nods at XorA Aug 26 07:24:28 Hello Aug 26 07:27:32 hi Aug 26 07:28:23 hi sirfred, hi chouimat|malaga Aug 26 07:28:55 good info - udev works on my Z with udev-065/etc/init.d/udev.init.d.LSB (after adding /lib/lsb/init-functions ofcourse) Aug 26 07:28:56 ZonE-HaKin9|: sure thing. gpe has something like gpe-security image that comes with security relevant apps as well Aug 26 07:29:10 hrw|work: that's good Aug 26 07:29:25 sectest-gpe-image Aug 26 07:30:15 * koen should have a look at that some time soon Aug 26 07:31:53 mickeyl: ok :) also if i wanted to get perl 5.8+ working would that be ok for a app called metasploit and bluesniff ? Aug 26 07:32:13 sure Aug 26 07:32:14 * RP ponders how to tell the difference between the C3100 and the C1000 to set the machine type :-/ Aug 26 07:32:22 RP: flash size Aug 26 07:32:32 :) Aug 26 07:32:38 mickeyl: Both are 128MiB Aug 26 07:32:48 RP: ok, but the partitioning is different Aug 26 07:32:53 mickeyl: Note I didn't say C3000 Aug 26 07:32:57 koen: so can i do a bitbake sectest-gpe-image ?? Aug 26 07:33:01 We can't detect that Aug 26 07:33:04 ZonE-HaKin9|: yes Aug 26 07:33:17 Oooo Baby eheh Aug 26 07:33:34 Sorry.... where's the mop :P Aug 26 07:33:48 RP: what's with this IO expansion thing the 1000 has? Aug 26 07:33:56 or the missing 2nd scoop? Aug 26 07:34:43 mickeyl: Its an i2c device and I'd rather not start poking i2c at this low level. I'm not sure what the behaviour of accessing a missing scoppy device would be... Aug 26 07:35:35 pb_: If a device on a CS line were missing, could you safely try reading values from it or not? (or could you detect the presence of a device on a CS line?) Aug 26 07:37:31 RP: so basically there is no easy way to detect does it is akita or borzoi at kernel start? Aug 26 07:37:32 ack! Aug 26 07:37:34 RP: it is generally safe to read from a CS area that is completely unused, yes. If there is any risk that the CS area might be in use by a different device than the one you are expecting, then that may not be the case. Aug 26 07:37:36 emte: did you shut down your hg repo? Aug 26 07:37:39 cu Aug 26 07:37:42 I have to go Aug 26 07:37:52 cu tuesday Aug 26 07:38:14 hrw|gone: have a good weekend Aug 26 07:40:40 pb_: I can leave this bit of detection right until the last moment when there should only be a choice between two machines. Offhand do you know what value I'd see for a read without the device present? - are the data lines pulled high or low? Aug 26 07:44:57 RP: generally, they would be completely undriven, so they will float to a random state. Aug 26 07:46:29 RP: you will have to proceed by asking the device some question to which you already know the answer, and looking to see what comes back. If it has a device ID register, or something else that always returns a known value, that would be a good way. Aug 26 07:48:27 pb_: The problem is we're talking about scoop - we have no documentation and nothing looks like an ID register :-( Aug 26 07:49:12 well, it doesn't need to be an actual ID register, just something whose contents you know at startup time. Aug 26 07:50:04 or, alternatively, a register (or combination of registers) that you can write to and then read back from. Aug 26 07:50:36 anything that involves writing is highly undesirable if there might be unknown hardware at the address in question, but if it is just a choice between scoop or nothing then it should be safe. Aug 26 07:50:53 I don't even know if scoop gets initialised by the bootloader or what the device's reset status would be... Aug 26 07:51:42 Can you determine it empirically by reading some registers at boot time on a few devices that do have scoop fitted? Aug 26 07:52:22 That would seem to be the way forward... Aug 26 07:53:23 Looking at a live device, I can write various values to the MCR which I guess is the Memory Control register. I can probably therefore use the first steps of the reset sequence... Aug 26 07:58:33 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rdf619438... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): unslung-kernel: enabled CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS Aug 26 07:58:37 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re7835394... 10/packages/zd1211/ (8 files in 2 dirs): zd1211: Added zd1211-4916 (rumoured to work with Unslung). Aug 26 08:08:11 i'm having some trouble getting libsdl-mixer-1.2.6 compiled for h3600, anyone else seeing this too? (error at : http://pastebin.ca/21237 ) Aug 26 08:12:17 okay, found the bug report (it wasnt in news://gmame, sorry) but seems there is only a hack to fix it Aug 26 08:13:59 hi Aug 26 08:14:59 hello Aug 26 08:16:58 afternoon Aug 26 08:17:48 hi reenoo_ Aug 26 08:18:57 hey pb_ Aug 26 08:22:49 looking at oz-users, I wonder when mickeyl released OZ 5.3.5 :-D Aug 26 08:25:41 XorA: while you weren't looking ;) Aug 26 08:33:49 koen: damn that guys good, he saves 700MB in an image and releases another 10 releases all in time I take to drink some tea Aug 26 08:34:12 :) Aug 26 08:38:37 XorA: Of course, I'm curious about how that Phd of his is proceeding ;) Aug 26 08:45:09 Twiun: hes probably doing 5 Aug 26 09:33:58 night all :) Aug 26 09:53:54 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r2f7b3d5a... 10/packages/gpe-nmf/gpe-nmf_0.22.bb: gpe-nmf: Add version 0.22. Aug 26 10:46:39 bbl Aug 26 10:52:16 hi all Aug 26 10:52:25 I'd like to install linux on my acer n30 Aug 26 10:52:33 is it possible? Aug 26 10:52:39 http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/AcerN30Status Aug 26 10:52:44 support appears almost complete Aug 26 10:52:50 DarkSSJ: read the topic Aug 26 10:53:25 oh, sorry Aug 26 11:00:27 <[cc]smart> is it possible to move ones account on bugs.oe.org to a different email address ? didn't notice an option but wanted to make sure before just opening a new account and letting the old one rot... Aug 26 11:02:00 not without manually hacking the database, iirc. Aug 26 11:02:06 best to just create a new account and forget the old one. Aug 26 11:02:15 <[cc]smart> ok. Aug 26 11:02:18 <[cc]smart> will do so then Aug 26 11:02:26 <[cc]smart> thx Aug 26 11:04:24 <[cc]smart> argh, next thing... i was asked to use the ID of ccsmart@openembedded.org for monotone. So i assumed this is an email alias. Is this the case ? If so, it curretnly seems not to work... Aug 26 11:12:16 there are no @openembedded.org forwards Aug 26 11:19:43 <[cc]smart> so these are not meant as email addresses thenn... or are there accounts ? Aug 26 11:20:03 IMHO there should be. currently mail sent to an @openembedded.org address just ends up in /dev/null without an error reply or anything Aug 26 11:20:15 actually that isnt correct Aug 26 11:20:21 it all ends up in my mailbox :P Aug 26 11:20:29 so i've gotten every test email anyone has sent Aug 26 11:20:55 need a mailserver Aug 26 11:21:01 heh. ok. (hi btw) Aug 26 11:21:09 hey Aug 26 11:46:46 <[cc]smart> a mailserver ? no problem you should know... get a slug and install IMAP/Postfix. Aug 26 11:46:50 <[cc]smart> :) Aug 26 11:47:31 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r34d60511... 10/packages/libao/libao_0.8.6.bb: libao: Fix SRC_URI Aug 26 11:50:51 hehe Aug 26 11:52:08 I've gotten xscreensaver 4.22 to compile and install fine but my screensaver of choice (ifs) is behaving strangely Aug 26 11:52:32 The the first frame looks normal then it seems to get compressed to a point Aug 26 11:52:43 turning off some options makes it compress to a line... Aug 26 11:52:50 so I'm guessing it's a floating point issue Aug 26 11:53:04 the ant one works fine Aug 26 12:00:26 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r757ecda6... 10/packages/xscreensaver/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Aug 26 12:00:27 Add xscreensaver 4.22 Aug 26 12:00:27 - moved 2 of the 4.16 files to files/ to allow use for multiple versions Aug 26 12:00:27 - there are floating point issues with the ifs screensaver (and probaby others) Aug 26 12:01:43 "floating point issues"? Aug 26 12:03:10 you probably mean 'softfloat messes stuff up as usual, hardfloat works' Aug 26 12:03:38 speaking of softfloat, what's the latest plan to switch to softfloat? Aug 26 12:03:39 JustinP: not everything in OE will run on ARM/softfloat Aug 26 12:03:53 mreimer: softfloat is dead, all hail EABI Aug 26 12:04:29 can you explain a little? Aug 26 12:04:33 koen: I'm just guessing as the first frame is fine but further frames aren't Aug 26 12:04:38 does EABI let them coexist? Aug 26 12:04:52 koen: so....what would my options be? Is there some set of things I can check for in the code? Aug 26 12:05:04 koen: perhaps recompile with hardfloat (will this run on my softfloat system?) Aug 26 12:05:22 it's only 370 lines ;-) Aug 26 12:05:23 mreimer: EABI standarizes everything, but breaks ABI Aug 26 12:05:42 are there some docs I can read up on for softfloat? Aug 26 12:06:00 what's the plan for switching to EABI? Aug 26 12:06:19 we are waiting for the glibc bits Aug 26 12:06:32 is it likely to happen this year? Aug 26 12:06:43 and for RMK to stop flipping out on the word EABI or iwmmx Aug 26 12:06:56 yeah, saw that on lak Aug 26 12:07:40 the glibc/arm maintainer should have some more info Aug 26 12:57:57 monotone: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.vanille.de: 'received network error: anonymous access to branch 'org.openembedded.nslu2-linux' denied by server Aug 26 12:57:59 :( Aug 26 12:59:01 luke-jr__: read the mailinglist Aug 26 13:00:21 you need the mailing list to figure that one out? Aug 26 13:00:26 what thread Aug 26 13:03:31 not seeing anything :\ Aug 26 13:06:22 ... Aug 26 13:09:07 Subject: FYI: monotone.vanille.de branch changes Aug 26 13:14:08 wow that was a while ago Aug 26 13:16:03 so how do I make the changes needed if I'm just using 'monotone pull'? Aug 26 13:17:36 read GettingStarted? Aug 26 13:29:15 I'm not getting started, tho Aug 26 13:29:21 but nm, I figured it out Aug 26 13:29:54 monotone pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox}" :) Aug 26 13:52:13 anyone with commit privs up to committing the trivial patches in bugs 260 & 261? Aug 26 13:57:53 for 260, does that work with 2.4 as well? Aug 26 13:58:35 I *can* submit them, but I really don't know about those 2 things... Aug 26 13:58:36 JustinP: I don't know, as I can't test 2.4, but for 2.4 the script will do the same thing it did before the patch Aug 26 13:58:50 mreimer: so your changes shouldn't affect 2.4? Aug 26 13:59:08 JustinP: no Aug 26 13:59:18 ok Aug 26 13:59:34 do they *need* to be comitted now? Aug 26 13:59:54 not necessarily. I would like to have h2200 supported by the next familiar. Aug 26 13:59:58 release Aug 26 14:00:02 ok Aug 26 14:00:23 I'll leave them for someone sle, then. All of these bugs gets sent to oe@hh.org so others see them as well Aug 26 14:00:32 pester the maintainer in those bb files ;-) Aug 26 14:00:41 ah, good idea :-) Aug 26 14:01:29 how do I tell how the maintainer is? Aug 26 14:01:38 nothing obvious on those two bbs Aug 26 14:01:41 there *should* be a MAINTAINER in there Aug 26 14:01:47 ok, then there isn't anyone I guess Aug 26 14:01:52 keep asking in here, then ;-) Aug 26 14:01:59 alrighty Aug 26 14:02:04 or on the list Aug 26 14:02:20 it's only been an hour or so; I suppose I shouldn't be impatient :-) Aug 26 14:02:52 heh Aug 26 14:03:43 mreimer: #260 refers to tmp/rootfs/etc/sysconfig/pcmcia Aug 26 14:03:54 Kompo: yes Aug 26 14:03:57 er, koen Aug 26 14:05:00 part of pcmcia-cs Aug 26 14:05:02 we'll need a patch for openembedded/packages/foo/files/pcmcia Aug 26 14:06:28 it is against packages/pcmcia-cs/files/arm/pcmcia Aug 26 14:07:57 ok Aug 26 14:09:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r514e1063... 10/packages/pcmcia-cs/files/arm/pcmcia: Aug 26 14:09:12 pcmcia-cs: patch arm/pcmcia to handle 2.6 modules Aug 26 14:09:12 Patch courtesy Matt Reimer, closes #260 Aug 26 14:09:53 260 is against blueprobe in hho cvs Aug 26 14:12:55 261 Aug 26 14:13:46 koen: could my float problem perhaps be a problem with cos/sin? Aug 26 14:13:58 JustinP: could be Aug 26 14:14:05 but I don't really expect so Aug 26 14:14:28 fp emulation is pretty good and shouldn't cause runtime problems Aug 26 14:14:53 softloat problems mostly occur during compiling, or plain segfaults Aug 26 14:15:02 except there *is* a runtime problem here... Aug 26 14:15:11 it's ocmpiling and running fine and the initial display is right Aug 26 14:15:26 firther iterations end up at thr origin, though... Aug 26 14:18:30 mreimer: #261 should be in hh.org bugzilla Aug 26 14:18:39 oh, thanks Aug 26 14:22:26 * koen smiles Aug 26 14:22:40 the hh.org bugreport bounces back to oe@ Aug 26 14:22:47 ~lart maintainerless .bbs Aug 26 14:22:47 * ibot pushes the wall down onto maintainerless .bbs whilst whistling innocently Aug 26 14:25:03 koen: so no tips....? Aug 26 14:25:49 JustinP: not at the moment Aug 26 14:26:29 ok Aug 26 14:58:56 one day i really need to fix my usb hub problem Aug 26 15:20:02 hmm Aug 26 15:21:02 zecke_, seems there is an autoconf update ... perhaps the emacs issue will go away now Aug 26 15:23:27 emte: what hub issue? Aug 26 15:24:12 if i jack into my kbd hub it crashes my usb kbd Aug 26 15:26:04 i think it has something to do with the fact the kbd is a lowspeed device and it sets up the hub as a high speed device Aug 26 15:26:16 and it gets confused Aug 26 15:29:13 perhaps Aug 26 15:29:16 strange, though Aug 26 15:29:25 does it work no other Linux boxen? Aug 26 15:29:45 does the same thing on other *nix Aug 26 15:29:58 probably because it doesnt have the proper driver Aug 26 15:30:18 its the ideazon zboard Aug 26 15:30:37 has ~3 devices in the kbd Aug 26 15:30:51 ah Aug 26 15:30:52 well Aug 26 15:31:00 that sounds like kernel hacking then ;-) Aug 26 15:31:07 the kbd itself, the usb hub, and a secondary button device Aug 26 15:31:27 yeah Aug 26 15:31:45 which means there's a hub in the device already, of course Aug 26 15:31:48 JustinP, you ever play with ACOVEA ? Aug 26 15:31:51 is it 1 hub or 2? Aug 26 15:32:07 1 hub 2ports Aug 26 15:32:27 well yes, that's the *external* hub Aug 26 15:32:48 I'm asking if the kbd/button thing are on the same hub as the 2 ports Aug 26 15:33:01 or is it an internal hub with 3 devices, one of which is another hub Aug 26 15:33:25 probably one but I'm not a USB god Aug 26 15:33:51 i belive the hub is multiplexed onto the kbd or vice versa the hub only activates on useage Aug 26 15:34:46 if the kdb ran off the hub i dont thik i'd have a problem Aug 26 15:34:50 there *has* to be a hub Aug 26 15:34:55 always on Aug 26 15:35:10 if the kbd and button thing are 2 devices then you have at least one internal hub always runnin Aug 26 15:35:13 g Aug 26 15:35:32 nah the button device isnt active Aug 26 15:35:45 just the kbd normally Aug 26 15:35:47 nope, never used avocea. But I did work with genetic algorithms in college Aug 26 15:35:51 ok... Aug 26 15:36:24 i "think" the button device might just be an extension of the kdb set but i have to figure out how to talk to it Aug 26 15:36:48 damn it! firefox is crashing like mad today Aug 26 15:36:55 must be the greasemonkey update... Aug 26 15:36:58 lol Aug 26 15:37:12 which GA did you do? Aug 26 15:37:41 * JustinP doesn't remember....we did some interesting stuff, though Aug 26 15:38:03 we were training ANNs Aug 26 15:38:16 yeah the closest i get is state machine stuff in vhdl Aug 26 15:38:37 one of the programs trained and built ANNs using a genetic algorithm for matching / crossing / etc Aug 26 15:38:43 it's all just number theory ;-) Aug 26 15:38:53 pretty much Aug 26 15:38:54 I wish I still had the program...::sigh::...lost my old code Aug 26 15:39:43 i keep meaning to play with some GA but never get the time Aug 26 15:41:03 so i am stuck playing with it at a device level Aug 26 15:45:08 bah anjuta is on the fritz ... back to motor i guess Aug 26 15:48:34 heh - thought I was the only one using anjuta these days Aug 26 15:51:31 nah, its usually good until it freaks out Aug 26 15:51:49