**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 18 02:59:56 2005
Sep 18 03:18:15 <netnix> hi all
Sep 18 03:18:37 <netnix> i have error when build task-bootstrap:
Sep 18 03:18:40 <netnix> | /stuff/build/conf/tmp/cross/sh3-linux/include/asm/ptrace.h:4:21: asm/ubc.h: No such file or directory
Sep 18 03:18:50 <netnix> what's wrong?
Sep 18 03:19:26 <netnix> TARGET_ARCH   = "sh3"
Sep 18 03:19:26 <netnix> TARGET_OS     = "linux"
Sep 18 03:19:26 <netnix> MACHINE       = "jornada6xx"
Sep 18 04:53:28 <CIA-13> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r789079a5... 10/packages/udev/ (8 files in 2 dirs): udev: recipe and patches for udev-070
Sep 18 05:08:41 <zecke> koen|tv: the cinergy T2 works perfectly with Tiger
Sep 18 05:14:53 <nomichan> hi
Sep 18 05:15:04 <pH5> hi nomichan
Sep 18 05:15:20 <nomichan> what's up :)
Sep 18 05:15:22 <alan|home> hi all
Sep 18 05:15:54 <pH5> hi alan|home
Sep 18 05:21:13 <koen> pH5: the hh3 defconfig doesn't build i2c-pxa (as a module)
Sep 18 05:22:15 <koen> zecke: that's good to hear
Sep 18 05:22:35 <zecke> koen: and fink with self compiling is almnost like BSD
Sep 18 05:22:37 <koen> zecke: my new project is to get mythbackend to work on my slug
Sep 18 05:23:33 <[cc]smart> i couldn't identify one... do we have a package helping to handle mail/mime on comanndline ?
Sep 18 05:23:46 <alan|home> koen: (Oo)' mythtv is in OE ?
Sep 18 05:23:56 <koen> alan|home: yes
Sep 18 05:24:04 <koen> bitbake mythfront-image :)
Sep 18 05:24:17 <koen> that's what pb_ uses for his epia
Sep 18 05:24:41 <alan|home> koen: ho... i gueess it means i can't use myth frontend on openzaurus...
Sep 18 05:24:44 <alan|home> can i ?
Sep 18 05:24:53 <koen> you can try :)
Sep 18 05:25:15 <koen> I already have mythfrontend on my powerbook
Sep 18 05:25:31 <alan|home> ok... let's do that.... though i'm not sure i'll have enough frre space in the internal memory...
Sep 18 05:28:18 <alan|home> koen: any idea of what i should build ? the task-mythfront meta ?
Sep 18 05:29:37 <koen> bitbake mythtv I guess
Sep 18 05:30:28 <alan|home> ok. let's try with this. thanks.
Sep 18 05:31:12 <alan|home> woa... mythtv on a zaurus... that would be wonderfull if i had a dvb-t card on my linux box...
Sep 18 05:32:51 <alan|home> hehe... now i know what i'll ask my wife in decembre
Sep 18 05:52:31 <pH5> koen: right, it seems that it uses the cvs defconfig. i'll add the cvs .bb's do_configure to _2.6.12-hh3.bb
Sep 18 05:55:24 <alan|home> haaaa... is there nothing we can do about the caching file process that takes soooooo many time ?!?
Sep 18 05:59:04 <koen> bitbake -i
Sep 18 06:00:50 <Noodles> Hmmm. Has someone forgotten to commit packages/hostap/hostap-modules-0.4.4/kernel_updates.patch ? It's referenced from the .bb but not in the repo.
Sep 18 06:01:47 <Noodles> And if I remove it from the .bb hostap-modules fails to compile.
Sep 18 06:02:45 <koen> Noodles: RP did some work on hostap iirc
Sep 18 06:03:55 <Noodles> Yeah. 39f8b722d88381beb6810c7a3616dc89ef02d993 appears to be the bb change, but no patch file commit.
Sep 18 06:12:38 <CIA-13> 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * rd57da27a... 10/packages/postfix/postfix_2.0.20.bb: postfix: remove temporary file /var/tmp/main_cf.sh after installation
Sep 18 06:12:42 <CIA-13> 03ccsmart 07org.oe.dev * r75f6e838... 10/packages/bogofilter/ (files/bogohelper.sh bogofilter_0.96.0.bb): bogofilter: add bogohelper.sh and master.cf entries
Sep 18 06:38:25 <RP> Noodles: Commiting now - sorry about that
Sep 18 06:38:59 <RP> Sadly, my main monitor has gone bang so I'm only half functional here :-/
Sep 18 06:42:52 <CIA-13> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd4dacf3f... 10/packages/hostap/hostap-modules-0.4.4/kernel_updates.patch: hostap: Add fixes so it builds correctly for kernels > 2.6.13
Sep 18 06:44:10 <nomichan> hm, php does not compile in my 64-bit enviroment :(
Sep 18 06:44:10 <zecke> koen: http://www.gotontheinter.net/OSX.diff
Sep 18 06:44:18 <zecke> koen: do you have an opinion on that one
Sep 18 06:45:41 <alan|home> koen: looks like mythtv is "incompatible with host arm-linux"
Sep 18 06:46:04 <zecke> alan|home: the epia kernel?
Sep 18 06:47:12 <alan|home> zecke: well, i just tried "bitbake -b /home/alan/OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/mythtv/mythtv_0.18.1.bb" to test if it would work on a c7x0 zaurus...
Sep 18 06:47:33 <Disconnect> zecke: fwiw that is not tested on a non-osx host yet. -should- work but... (the biggest set of changes, or at least the ugliest, is because 'os.uname()[4]' is 'Power Macintosh' .. that space -really- upsets -lots- of configure scripts.)
Sep 18 06:47:46 <zecke> Disconnect: this is your patch?
Sep 18 06:47:51 <Disconnect> yah
Sep 18 06:48:12 <Disconnect> I -think- its mostly up to date - can regen against my current tree. (builds as far as starting kernel config, then hangs)
Sep 18 06:48:13 <zecke> Disconnect: I do not like the Clean vs. NonClean separation
Sep 18 06:48:26 <Disconnect> thats why I didn't submit it for inclusion. 
Sep 18 06:48:58 <zecke> Disconnect: I'm currently building monotone and svn with fink
Sep 18 06:49:05 <Disconnect> unfortunately, it looks like the build system requires both a textual spaces version and a commandline non-spaces version.
Sep 18 06:49:29 <zecke> Disconnect: which buildsystem? OE?
Sep 18 06:49:32 <Disconnect> ah. that was the easy part. (darwinports had both) .. it gets evil after that tho ;)
Sep 18 06:49:34 <Disconnect> yah
Sep 18 06:50:05 <Disconnect> or at least the sub-systems (configure et al) seem to need both. changing the original variables resulted in lots more breakage
Sep 18 06:50:17 <zecke> For me the tricky part is how to enter my password...
Sep 18 06:50:32 <zecke> the default terminal can not input my charachter
Sep 18 06:51:02 <Disconnect> iTerm might be able to handle it.
Sep 18 06:51:03 <Disconnect> dunno.
Sep 18 06:51:32 * Disconnect is gonna go make coffee, bbiab
Sep 18 06:52:23 * zecke decides to do a portupgrade on his FBSD system(s)
Sep 18 07:02:08 <koen> hmmm
Sep 18 07:02:19 * koen shuts down all 802.11b gadgets
Sep 18 07:02:50 <Disconnect> patch is updated fyi
Sep 18 07:16:49 <koen> ~seen mikelp
Sep 18 07:16:59 <ibot> mikelp <~phillim@pool-141-150-214-24.delv.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 281d 14h 27m 14s ago, saying: 'should default to the lcd's native'.
Sep 18 07:17:24 <koen> wow
Sep 18 07:17:28 <koen> that's a long time ago
Sep 18 07:30:36 <Noodles> RP: Cheers. Now spectrum-fw is failing with "line 147: get_symbol_fw: command not found". That looks like it wants something local I guess. I'm about to go out so I'll prod when I get back.
Sep 18 07:32:00 <RP> Noodles: I'm farly sure I checked that script in...
Sep 18 07:53:38 <CIA-13> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf7245f1f... 10/packages/ubahnnav/ (ubahnnav_0.3.1.bb ubahnnav_0.4.0.bb ubahnnav_0.4.1.bb): ubahnnav: upgrade to 0.4.1 and remove obsolete versions
Sep 18 07:53:42 <CIA-13> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re957dec8... 10/packages/meta/opie-image.bb: opie-image needs to DEPEND on task-bootstrap
Sep 18 07:57:24 <lardman> Hmm, hostap-modules is failing to build - was this supposed to be fixed? Or should I remove the dep from gpe-image?
Sep 18 07:57:36 <lardman> (I have just pulled btw)
Sep 18 07:57:44 <zecke> mickey|zzZZzz: hey
Sep 18 07:58:03 <koen> lardman: RP pushed a fix a few minutes ago
Sep 18 07:58:23 <lardman> 13:40?
Sep 18 07:58:49 <lardman> I thought I pulled after than - I'll check again
Sep 18 07:58:52 <mickeyl> mornin
Sep 18 07:58:52 <mickeyl> g
Sep 18 07:58:55 <koen> hey mickeyl 
Sep 18 07:58:59 <lardman> hi mickeyl
Sep 18 07:59:07 <mickeyl> @ all germans: did you already vote? if not, do it NOW
Sep 18 07:59:32 <koen> mickeyl: shiny E frontend for init instead of elppe
Sep 18 08:00:15 <koen> mickeyl: I couldn't find anything about that on the enlightenment website
Sep 18 08:00:37 <kergoth> bleh
Sep 18 08:00:39 <kergoth> hangovers = evil
Sep 18 08:00:53 <lardman> koen: I'm betting I forgot to clean hostap modules after if failed yesterday
Sep 18 08:00:54 <Disconnect> lol
Sep 18 08:01:00 <koen> next time drink a pint of water before going to sleep
Sep 18 08:01:36 <mickeyl> koen: *nod* I'm in favour of ditching elpp as well and instead use a nice E-fb based init
Sep 18 08:02:44 <zecke> mickeyl: Kent Brockman got my vote
Sep 18 08:02:57 * zecke votes for food now
Sep 18 08:02:59 <koen> zecke: vote Kang
Sep 18 08:03:06 <zecke> koen: hehe
Sep 18 08:03:21 <koen> "Don't look at me, I voted Kodos"
Sep 18 08:03:22 <zecke> koen: Was that 'Clinn Ton' or the other one?
Sep 18 08:03:48 <koen> I always confuse kang and kodos
Sep 18 08:04:17 <zecke> koen: I never liked pong anyway...
Sep 18 08:08:11 * koen fink install svn-client
Sep 18 08:08:46 <CIA-13> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra8e888a8... 10/packages/pcmciautils/ (pcmciautils_007.bb pcmciautils_010.bb): pcmciautils: upgrade to 010
Sep 18 08:10:27 <koen> pH5: did you push the change to the kernel .bb yet?
Sep 18 08:13:40 <pH5> koen: just a second...
Sep 18 08:14:15 <lardman> RP: Those scripts are there (get_symbol_fw and parse_symbol_fw), it just looks like they're not in the $path
Sep 18 08:16:26 <RP> It all worked here :-/
Sep 18 08:17:12 <lardman> they get placed into the tmp/work/spectrum-fw-1.0-r0/ dir
Sep 18 08:17:23 <koen> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2005-09/msg00228.html
Sep 18 08:17:26 <lardman> I'm just looking to see where/how they're called
Sep 18 08:18:32 <lardman> do_compile() calls it with no path - is that normal?
Sep 18 08:24:20 <RP> lardman: It should call  ./script rather than script
Sep 18 08:24:36 <lardman> RP: That's what I though; it doesn't
Sep 18 08:26:05 <RP> Change it and see if it works - if it does, I'll push it
Sep 18 08:26:11 <CIA-13> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * rb9817db6... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh3.bb: handhelds-pxa-2.6: make 2.6.12-hh3 use the oe defconfig
Sep 18 08:27:21 <RP> Has some recent change to meta-opie removed the DEPENDS on task-bootstrap?
Sep 18 08:27:41 <koen> 16:51 < CIA-13> mickeyl org.oe.dev * re957dec8... /packages/meta/opie-image.bb: opie-image needs to DEPEND on task-bootstrap
Sep 18 08:28:28 <mickeyl> guess that was a damage by hrw
Sep 18 08:29:33 <RP> koen: Posting that from a different timezone had me really confused :)
Sep 18 08:29:37 <koen> :)
Sep 18 08:29:48 <koen> 1.5 hour into the future
Sep 18 08:30:11 * mickeyl -> election aprty
Sep 18 08:30:15 <mickeyl> party, as well
Sep 18 08:30:25 <RP> koen|food: 0.5 but near enough :)
Sep 18 08:34:35 <lardman> RP: adjusting the .bb to add the ./ works
Sep 18 08:35:12 <RP> lardman: ok. I'd thought I'd done that in the first place. I'll fix it :)
Sep 18 08:36:09 <lardman> RP: I'm pretty sure I pulled after you made your last change (the fact that hostap-modules compiles - after I did a bitbake clean - should prove that)
Sep 18 08:36:33 <koen|food> pH5: if that dbus patch works, please commit it 
Sep 18 08:37:37 <RP> lardman: Yes, it is broken...
Sep 18 08:42:28 <CIA-13> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r23ad0768... 10/packages/orinoco/spectrum-fw.bb: spectrum-fw: Fix a path bug in the .bb. Thanks to lardman for pointing it out.
Sep 18 08:44:08 <pH5> koen|food: there are still other alignment issues in the pin_request code
Sep 18 08:45:21 <Noodles> I was just about to comment about the spectrum-fw path. :)
Sep 18 09:33:12 <abm_y4k> hi all
Sep 18 09:41:15 <lardman> Is there a way of getting bitbake to print out the dependency tree for a given target? I'm just sat here watching random things being built and thinking about some kind of display of the progress of the build
Sep 18 09:41:57 <koen> lardman: zecke was working on generating dotfiles for graphviz last week
Sep 18 09:42:40 <lardman> koen: Oh right, cool
Sep 18 09:44:14 <koen> zecke: any news on that? 
Sep 18 09:46:00 <zecke> hehe not yet finished
Sep 18 09:47:44 <RP> Once that works, you'll probably get a multithreaded bitbake helper in short order ;-)
Sep 18 09:48:23 <koen> I should start sucking up at the math department
Sep 18 09:49:16 * koen wants to run OE on http://www.sara.nl/systemstatus/systemstatus_eng.php3
Sep 18 09:49:47 <koen> make -j128 :)
Sep 18 09:50:22 <koen> make that make -j1024
Sep 18 09:55:59 <abm_y4k> anyone know what I have missed? I bitbake opie-image and I flush this image and found there is default language(no words, just icons).
Sep 18 09:56:58 <bam_> cool
Sep 18 09:57:11 <bam_> pictographs
Sep 18 09:57:36 <abm_y4k> yea
Sep 18 09:57:41 <abm_y4k> all blanks
Sep 18 09:57:47 <abm_y4k> what cause i?
Sep 18 09:57:49 <abm_y4k> it?
Sep 18 09:58:02 <koen> abm_y4k: I think #opie would be more helpfull for your problem
Sep 18 09:59:10 <abm_y4k> hm.. but its a problem on bitbake or oe ?
Sep 18 09:59:32 <koen> I don't know
Sep 18 09:59:34 <koen> opie fails
Sep 18 09:59:41 <koen> so it seems to be an opie problem
Sep 18 09:59:49 <abm_y4k> ok
Sep 18 10:07:23 <abm_y4k> bam_: you have a linksys wcf12 and c3100 rite?
Sep 18 10:16:34 <bam_> yup
Sep 18 10:16:50 <bam_> sry bout delay updating my linux box
Sep 18 10:17:12 <bam_> lol: he quit, talking to myself
Sep 18 10:48:50 <zecke> Disconnect: what about *_PATH (instead of CLEAN)
Sep 18 10:49:03 <zecke> Disconnect: but most importantly we need to document the keys
Sep 18 10:58:13 <hrw> hi
Sep 18 10:58:21 <CIA-13> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1fa7381f... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-dejavu_1.13-20050820.bb ttf-dejavu_1.14.bb): ttf-dejavu: upgraded to 1.14
Sep 18 10:58:34 <hrw> tomorrow I will update qpf versions
Sep 18 11:07:38 <lardman> Night all
Sep 18 11:17:23 <[cc]smart> hrw: hi
Sep 18 11:18:14 <[cc]smart> hrw: would you possibly be interested in bug #41 ?
Sep 18 11:20:01 <hrw> have to look
Sep 18 11:20:51 <hrw> [cc]smart: thats thing for RP I think - he is kernel maintainer
Sep 18 11:21:13 <[cc]smart> yes, i discussed it with him and even did the change myself
Sep 18 11:21:32 <[cc]smart> but i failed on setting up the configs for OZ for me to bitbake :/
Sep 18 11:21:49 <hrw> currently I dont have time to change Z kernel(s) - have few things on todo list
Sep 18 11:21:52 <[cc]smart> so i could not verify and i don't dare commit if i couldn't verify
Sep 18 11:21:59 <[cc]smart> ok.
Sep 18 11:22:12 <hrw> I plan to make map for UBahnNav currently
Sep 18 11:22:23 <[cc]smart> whereas the change is minimalistic, it's more to verify
Sep 18 11:22:30 <[cc]smart> ubahn ? i know the HP
Sep 18 11:22:46 <[cc]smart> iirc he has some bluetooth doco there i tried
Sep 18 11:22:51 <hrw> http://www.ubahnstation.net/projects/ubahnnav/main.html
Sep 18 11:22:54 <[cc]smart> yes
Sep 18 11:23:03 <[cc]smart> i think that's the one
Sep 18 11:23:25 <[cc]smart> you know snmpz ?
Sep 18 11:23:29 <hrw> no
Sep 18 11:23:36 <hrw> never used snmp
Sep 18 11:24:04 <[cc]smart> http://snmpz.sourceforge.net
Sep 18 11:24:42 <hrw> no snmpd here ;)
Sep 18 11:25:10 <hrw> [cc]smart: you want it?
Sep 18 11:25:30 <[cc]smart> it was working some time on oz
Sep 18 11:25:35 <[cc]smart> and i think it is a nice project
Sep 18 11:25:45 <[cc]smart> but i'd fear this is relatively much work 
Sep 18 11:25:46 <hrw> I can look
Sep 18 11:26:09 <[cc]smart> so i wouldn't really want to convince somebody in doing it, if it is not for their own benefit, too.
Sep 18 11:27:00 <hrw> I got wrt54gs from you so I feel that if you want snmpz then I should atleast try 
Sep 18 11:27:01 <hrw> ;)
Sep 18 11:27:15 <[cc]smart> heh, thx
Sep 18 11:27:38 <[cc]smart> but maybe the will come better option...
Sep 18 11:27:39 <[cc]smart> :)
Sep 18 11:28:42 <hrw> it need some libs
Sep 18 11:28:53 <[cc]smart> in any case, you did enough before to convince me that you earned it
Sep 18 11:29:00 <hrw> ;)
Sep 18 11:29:20 <hrw> btw - I have to find some time to upgrade openwrt
Sep 18 11:29:38 <[cc]smart> i saw there is openwrt kernel, when checking about bug 41
Sep 18 11:29:49 <[cc]smart> but i couldn't find OE reference on openwrt HP
Sep 18 11:30:06 <[cc]smart> so you are migrating separately from openwrt project ?
Sep 18 11:30:20 <hrw> we have partial wrt54 support but no maintainer for it
Sep 18 11:30:37 <hrw> OE can build software for openwrt but images are not tested
Sep 18 11:30:47 <[cc]smart> ah. ok
Sep 18 11:30:55 <[cc]smart> so OE already can build these images ?
Sep 18 11:30:59 <hrw> I use some OE built stuff on wrt - but 8M of flash make it hard
Sep 18 11:31:13 <hrw> [cc]smart: can - but who knows are they ok..
Sep 18 11:31:31 <[cc]smart> ok. is bootloader comparable to nslu in that it would allow reflash if its wrong ?
Sep 18 11:32:08 <hrw> you must look into openwrt docs - probably yes but I dont know
Sep 18 11:32:13 <[cc]smart> in principle i could test them
Sep 18 11:32:17 <hrw> bbl - dinner time
Sep 18 11:32:29 <[cc]smart> i will have a look about what can be done to HW to make it safe
Sep 18 11:32:32 <[cc]smart> then we can test
Sep 18 11:32:53 <hrw> serial cable will be usefull
Sep 18 11:32:59 <hrw> maybe jtag too
Sep 18 11:36:48 <hrw|dinner> [cc]smart: looks like all REQ are already in OE
Sep 18 12:29:51 <CIA-13> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r7ff4c9ec... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh3.bb: handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.12-hh3.bb: add a missing backslash
Sep 18 14:06:41 <reenoo_> evening
Sep 18 14:13:35 <RP> It looks like something it wrong with the device creation on the latest images - /dev/input does get created I did see a mknod error flash by whilst it was booting
Sep 18 14:14:16 <koen> RP: is that with udev 070?
Sep 18 14:15:42 <RP> yes
Sep 18 14:16:04 <RP> I think it might be related to the disabling of /etc/init.d/devices when udev is running though
Sep 18 14:16:12 <RP> need to check when that happened
Sep 18 14:19:59 <koen> reenoo_: do you know what's the status on alsa integration in OE for ipaqs?
Sep 18 14:25:46 <RP> I'm hoping this isn't a kernel problem with the input rearranging that came in with -rc1-mm1 :-/
Sep 18 14:26:43 <reenoo_> koen: done for h3600. not sure about h3900
Sep 18 14:27:11 <koen> reenoo_: I want to ship h3600 images with alsa drivers soon for people to test
Sep 18 14:27:20 <reenoo_> koen: I don't think I switched h3900.conf over to alsa yet since nobody has tested that yet
Sep 18 14:27:25 <koen> 'soon' depends on said math catching up :(
Sep 18 14:27:47 <reenoo_> nobody I "trust" that is
Sep 18 14:28:06 <reenoo_> h3600 is a matter of rebuilding the image
Sep 18 14:32:19 <RP> For reference, I also see the lack of any text under opie
Sep 18 14:34:21 <RP> So /dev/input devices don't get created, opie is missing text and usbcore oops when it gets removed as part of bootup :-/
Sep 18 14:40:14 <RP> hostap won't eject :-/
Sep 18 14:56:47 <Noodles> I just hit the /dev/input stuff on a gpe-image from today. Once I created them it seemed happy enough though. And I saw the oops.
Sep 18 14:57:12 <Noodles> I built an opie-image too, but haven't tried it yet. Is the touchscreen stuff sorted in it with 2.6? (It was fine in gpe)
Sep 18 14:59:06 <zecke> koen: is ewi.nl/tmp/OE.db.bz2 not uptodate?
Sep 18 15:00:29 <zecke> nevermind
Sep 18 15:06:46 <koen> zecke: it is now :)
Sep 18 15:07:18 <RP> Noodles: If you mean for the C3000, yes it is
Sep 18 15:07:51 <RP> I'm feeling pretty bad as I appear to have trashed the kernel just before 3.5.4 :-(
Sep 18 15:08:18 <Noodles> :(
Sep 18 15:08:33 <koen> RP: that's why we use a scm
Sep 18 15:08:39 <zecke> damn I got lecturer tomorrw :(
Sep 18 15:09:47 <Delta__> students have such a good life :)
Sep 18 15:10:07 <zecke|zZzzZZz> Delta__: hehe but being forced to learn about hacker ethics...
Sep 18 15:10:14 <zecke|zZzzZZz> Delta__: when applying it since years, suck
Sep 18 15:10:32 * koen is going to do a course for the 4th time tomorrow
Sep 18 15:10:49 <zecke|zZzzZZz> koen: you must be clever ;)
Sep 18 15:10:52 <koen> I really should do that exam
Sep 18 15:11:06 <zecke|zZzzZZz> luckily I always took the tests...
Sep 18 15:11:19 <zecke|zZzzZZz> koen: but I still have to take 3-5 tests...
Sep 18 15:11:25 <koen> yeah
Sep 18 15:11:29 <koen> anyway
Sep 18 15:11:35 <koen> 'night all 
Sep 18 15:11:37 <zecke|zZzzZZz> cya tomorrow
Sep 18 15:11:50 <RP> 'night koen
Sep 18 15:12:20 <Delta__> zecke so you should know everything about it, that makes it easy :)
Sep 18 15:12:49 <Delta__> I am glad I don't have to take any tests anymore now..
Sep 18 15:13:31 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: no text?
Sep 18 15:13:47 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: what would you expect to see?
Sep 18 15:15:23 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: Captions under the icons, text on menus, small things like that
Sep 18 15:16:16 <RP> There was not a single piece of text anywhere on the display. All the strings appears to be missing
Sep 18 15:20:40 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: dare to check one thing?
Sep 18 15:20:56 <zecke|zZzzZZz> /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/fonts has any content?
Sep 18 15:21:02 <zecke|zZzzZZz> specially a font.dir file?
Sep 18 15:22:09 <zecke|zZzzZZz> or maybe fonts.dir
Sep 18 15:23:58 <mithro> hey zecke_ 
Sep 18 15:24:09 <zecke|zZzzZZz> hey and bye, I'm about to leave torward my bed
Sep 18 15:25:33 <reenoo_> 'night zecke|zZzzZZz 
Sep 18 15:27:56 <mithro> zecke|zZzzZZz: you have wireless don't you :P
Sep 18 15:29:03 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: It contains one file - fontdir 631 bytes
Sep 18 15:30:25 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: but no .qpf?
Sep 18 15:30:38 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: what is the content of fontdir
Sep 18 15:30:44 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: correct - not qpf files
Sep 18 15:31:04 <zecke|zZzzZZz> mithro: yeah I've a OLED in my pillow and a bendable wlan chip
Sep 18 15:31:32 <mithro> :P
Sep 18 15:31:38 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: okay, it should be fairly easy to find out why qpf stuff is not installed
Sep 18 15:31:38 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: It has a list of DefaVu_Sans entries pointing at ttf files in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
Sep 18 15:31:59 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: do you have a opie-freetype plugin?
Sep 18 15:32:02 <mithro> zecke_: any chance you might end up at Linux Kongress?
Sep 18 15:32:13 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories/*
Sep 18 15:32:17 <zecke|zZzzZZz> mithro: got a URL
Sep 18 15:32:55 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: fontfactories doesn't exist
Sep 18 15:33:18 <mithro> http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/program.html
Sep 18 15:33:32 <RP> Could hrw have missed a package when rearranging meta-opie?
Sep 18 15:34:04 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: could you find for freetype in /opt/QtPalmtop/plugins?
Sep 18 15:34:06 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: could have happened
Sep 18 15:34:26 <RP> My Zaurus serial lead has died. The data line from the Zaurus to the PC appears to be dead :-(
Sep 18 15:34:28 <zecke|zZzzZZz> mithro: oh it is during the week. I would have to check, either the terms start or my grandfather turns 92
Sep 18 15:35:00 <mithro> anyone else thinking of going?
Sep 18 15:35:06 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: no freetype either. Just applets, application, decorations, holidays, inputmethods, networksettings, security, styles, today
Sep 18 15:35:31 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: well then opie-freetype plugin is not in the image
Sep 18 15:35:50 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: tomorrow we can check where it should get added, put probably hrw is the guy to ask
Sep 18 15:35:57 <reenoo_> 'night all
Sep 18 15:36:07 <zecke|zZzzZZz> RP: are the ttf fonts in /usr/sh...?
Sep 18 15:36:28 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: yes
Sep 18 15:36:43 <RP> zecke|zZzzZZz: I'll mention it to hrw tomorrow
Sep 18 15:36:50 <zecke|zZzzZZz> opie-freetype then
Sep 18 15:37:49 <RP> I'm upset about the serial lead :-/
Sep 18 15:37:54 <zecke|zZzzZZz> mithro: sixty squids is quite expensive
Sep 18 15:38:18 <mithro> zecke_: you havn't been to many conferences :P
Sep 18 15:38:54 <zecke|zZzzZZz> mithro: right, but they should pay me ;)
Sep 18 15:39:00 <zecke|zZzzZZz> not the otherway around
Sep 18 15:39:01 <mithro> 170EUR for a 4 day event is cheap
Sep 18 15:39:24 <mithro> zecke|zZzzZZz: convince work it is of benifit and get them to pay :P
Sep 18 15:55:30 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:38 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:44 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:46 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:52 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:54 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:56 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:58 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:55:59 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:56:06 <RP> root
Sep 18 15:56:13 <kergoth> ..
Sep 18 15:59:45 <RP> sorry :-/. You really don't want to know...
Sep 18 21:20:15 <z-akita> is lirc-0.7.1 broken?
Sep 18 21:47:56 <z-akita> how do i use the apkg to update from my local bitbake ipk?
Sep 18 21:48:15 <kergoth> what?
Sep 18 21:50:53 <z-akita> kergoth: i've bitbake some of the packages, is it possible for me to use the apkg for updates?
Sep 18 21:51:08 <kergoth> updates on what?
Sep 18 21:51:23 <z-akita> the packages that i have built from cvs..
Sep 18 21:52:02 <z-akita> like opie-mediaplayer+cvs-20050918
Sep 18 21:53:08 <z-akita> i don't want to manually ipkg every single packages... 
Sep 18 22:07:37 <kergoth> z-akita: this is not a distribution support channel
Sep 18 22:07:42 <kergoth> z-akita: read the topic.
Sep 18 22:07:50 <kergoth> z-akita: for openzaurus questions, you should be in #openzaurus
Sep 18 22:54:46 <zecke|zZzzZZz> kergoth: hey
Sep 19 00:24:03 <koobla> hi all!
Sep 19 00:41:48 <RP> morning all
Sep 19 00:43:36 <koobla> I will get a mpc5200 power pc board -- which config should I start with best_
Sep 19 00:43:47 <koobla> s/_/?/
Sep 19 01:03:28 <hrw|work> morning
Sep 19 01:03:37 <hrw|work> RP: I will look for that freetype bug
Sep 19 01:06:20 <RP> hi hrw|work 
Sep 19 01:06:35 <RP> hrw|work: Ok, thanks. You probably have more of an idea where to look than me :)
Sep 19 01:08:03 <hrw|work> ;)
Sep 19 01:13:27 <hrw|work> found
Sep 19 01:22:34 <hrw|work> hi XorA 
Sep 19 01:22:39 <XorA> morning
Sep 19 01:24:49 <koobla> anyone using a power pc board? 
Sep 19 01:25:08 <koen> does a powerbook count?
Sep 19 01:25:27 <koobla> if its an oe target - yes :)
Sep 19 01:25:34 <RP> morning koen, XorA 
Sep 19 01:25:43 <koen> hey XorA, RP 
Sep 19 01:25:46 <koobla> i'm trying to build glibc and sort out the arm patches
Sep 19 01:27:59 <koobla> got endianness errors -- is there a machine.conf that is known to work?
Sep 19 01:31:37 <hrw|work> koobla: iirc we have/had ppc target machine
Sep 19 01:32:18 <hrw|work> koen: ewi refuse connection?
Sep 19 01:32:38 <XorA> hrw|work: I get that as well
Sep 19 01:32:44 <koobla> i saw some configs, but could not get them running yet.
Sep 19 01:32:44 <XorA> and vanille down as well :-(
Sep 19 01:32:47 <koobla> will try...
Sep 19 01:33:59 <hrw|work> so opie-image fix will have to wait
Sep 19 01:54:51 <CIA-13> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rfa314921... 10/packages/meta/meta-opie.bb: 
Sep 19 01:54:51 <CIA-13> meta-opie: added opie-freetype into task-opie-base
Sep 19 01:54:51 <CIA-13> - that was the problem of "no fonts in fresh opie image"
Sep 19 01:56:27 <hrw|work> RP: next time when you add patch like that in hostap-modules bump PR
Sep 19 02:04:52 <RP> hrw|work: will do
Sep 19 02:05:11 <hrw|work> thx
Sep 19 02:05:23 <RP> I can see the problem with the kernel - the last -mm kernel has some really dodgy input patches
Sep 19 02:05:50 <hrw|work> RP: does those input devices appear in sysfs correctly?
Sep 19 02:06:10 <RP> hrw|work: basically, no. not in a way udev will understand
Sep 19 02:06:39 <hrw|work> so its input device error;(
Sep 19 02:06:46 <RP> yes
Sep 19 02:06:54 <reenoo_> morning
Sep 19 02:07:03 <hrw|work> hi rene
Sep 19 02:07:59 <reenoo_> hey Marcin
Sep 19 02:09:36 <hrw|work> RP: so which kernel will be marked as 'stable' for oz354?
Sep 19 02:09:57 <RP> hrw|work: I think we'll try 2.6.14-rc1 
Sep 19 02:12:58 <hrw|work> hi NAiL 
Sep 19 02:13:14 <NAiL> morning
Sep 19 02:16:15 <reenoo_> morning NAiL 
Sep 19 02:34:23 <hrw|work> for f in ../../oe/org.openembedded/packages/qpf-fonts/qpf-dejavu*bb;do bbrebuild $f;done
Sep 19 02:34:56 <RP> 2.6.14-rc1 works much better - "cures" the input and usbcore bugs
Sep 19 02:35:48 <NAiL> RP: When were bugs to usbcore introduced?
Sep 19 02:36:17 <NAiL> ie. is there any difference between 2.6.12.2 and 2.6.13, or did the problem come earlier than that? :)
Sep 19 02:36:18 <RP> NAiL: Somewhere in 2.6.14-rc1-mm1...
Sep 19 02:36:22 <NAiL> oh
Sep 19 02:37:08 <NAiL> I figure I'm going to try to get 2.6.13 to run on the ds101. Nice to know if there's any problems you see ;)
Sep 19 02:37:51 <koen> NAiL: does OE have ds101 support?
Sep 19 02:38:45 <RP> NAiL: Its a localised -mm bug by the looks of it
Sep 19 02:39:26 <NAiL> koen: not yet, I'm working on it ;)
Sep 19 02:39:30 <NAiL> RP: thanks
Sep 19 02:40:29 <NAiL> koen: ds101 is basically a slug with an IDE-interface and 64mb ram. So I can re-use most of OpenSlug for the purpose. The kernel will be different though.
Sep 19 02:41:04 <koen> yeah
Sep 19 02:41:14 <koen> I confuse the ds101 and the powerpc often
Sep 19 02:41:35 <NAiL> I guess the ds101g+ should be somewhat easy to set up in OE as well
Sep 19 02:42:35 <NAiL> actually, the difference will hopefully just be "armeb" vs. "powerpc" in target arch.
Sep 19 02:45:34 <XorA> ~lart linux cdrom handling
Sep 19 02:45:34 * ibot wallops linux cdrom handling with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing.  It won't take long
Sep 19 02:46:23 <hrw|work> XorA: ~lart linux * handling ;)
Sep 19 02:46:52 <XorA> hrw|work: I wish on read error it would just give up
Sep 19 02:51:57 <CIA-13> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r427cbc86... 10/packages/qpf-fonts/ (10 files): qpf-dejavu: updated to 1.14
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