**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 16 03:00:00 2005 Nov 16 03:00:07 lardman|work: too bad that gtk stuff has fscked something so I cannot use rm_work with it Nov 16 03:00:56 hrw|work: When I have more space I think I'll separate my GPE & Opie builds, otherwise I manage to forget to delete SDL or similar and it breaks Nov 16 03:08:07 hmm.. 9.5M sql script to put in database. Nov 16 03:12:52 * Geo_KM is back **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 16 03:54:04 2005 Nov 16 04:02:08 ~lart smbfs Nov 16 04:02:08 * ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets smbfs feel it Nov 16 04:14:49 ok, bluetooth with serial_cs and billionton card against a 6630 umts handy works well Nov 16 04:15:16 hrw|work: but which webclient do u recomment? Nov 16 04:16:07 greentux: firefox 1.5rc2 or opera 8.5/9.0pre but not MSIE (any version) Nov 16 04:16:30 hrw|work: i mean on Z... Nov 16 04:17:02 hrw|work: u said konq is not longer recommended Nov 16 04:17:02 a.. on Zaurus.. Nov 16 04:17:15 I didnt said that Nov 16 04:17:54 I said that is is no longer maintained (konq/emb qte2 edition which we use in OE for OPIE) Nov 16 04:18:10 hrw|work: mmmh ok, and what is maintained? Nov 16 04:22:08 currently nothing Nov 16 04:26:39 hrw|work:i booted my first bootstrap. many kernel messages because empty flash, but runs. Nov 16 04:26:55 hrw|work: then i got warning about wrong kernel (2.4.20 expected) Nov 16 04:28:47 anyone use ruby here? Nov 16 04:28:52 which one you boot? Nov 16 04:29:08 greentux: rebuild initscripts if you changed kernel Nov 16 04:29:39 hrw|work: in the bootstrap image shoul be rebuild initscripts? Nov 16 04:29:56 hrw|work:there are complete /etc/init.d Nov 16 04:30:47 hrw|work: bootstrap-image-borzoi--rootfs.tar.gz renamed to hdimage1.tar.gz Nov 16 04:31:41 greentux: that wrong kernel message is initscript which take kernel version from staging. if you use own build than ignore message or rebuild initscripts package Nov 16 04:35:56 hrw|work:ok understand, but i also opie started... i think i have to format my disk. Nov 16 04:39:51 rp: the empty flash lines (inreasing memory numbers) needs some a patch? Nov 16 04:40:58 <_law_> why my sl-760 needs more time to boot then my 5000d ? Nov 16 04:41:37 greentux: Just ignore them Nov 16 04:41:50 _law_: bigger flash Nov 16 04:43:27 <_law_> RP, but i nearly loads the same stuff and kernel 2.6 should be faster or? Nov 16 04:43:37 rp: ok. sorry, only my experience. Nov 16 04:44:59 hrw|work: ok, what is the recommended way to go from ipie image to bootstrap? format something etc? Nov 16 04:45:06 _law_: jffs2 scales badly and takes a certain amount of time to scan flash. Your 760 has a bigger flash so it takes longer to scan. Nov 16 04:46:17 <_law_> RP, ah okay thanks Nov 16 04:48:37 rp: should i use borzoi or spitz updater script? borzoi looks like writing in flash... Nov 16 04:49:13 greentux: spitz for now. I'm actually updating that in OE as we speak. I have a queue of changes I've forgotten to push... Nov 16 04:51:05 rp: then i dont now why opie starts (installed the bootstrap). perhaps some formating not right Nov 16 04:54:32 greentux: send me c3x00 so I will be able to answer that Nov 16 04:56:05 hrw|work: i can put it easy on net with login for u, i have only one c3x00, but i will ask... Nov 16 04:56:44 rp: ok, the kernel we built looked only in flash, doesnt mount hdd, so it started my 3.5.2 opie :) Nov 16 04:57:28 greentux: This is also being fixed in the changes I'm about to push Nov 16 04:58:04 rp: a lot of thanks. Nov 16 04:59:20 greentux: pushed to ewi Nov 16 04:59:29 ok, when i can organise another c3x00 for development. who of you has the most benefit from that? are a time of about 8 weeks ok? Nov 16 05:02:17 28 revs in... Nov 16 05:05:10 greentux: That's a good question. I have one and mickeyl has one. Both hrw and XorA do good work in testing images, keeping things working in OE and helping users etc.. hrw has probably given you the most help on here recently... Nov 16 05:06:15 Id go for hrw as well, my new job keeps my too busy to make full use of a C3x00 Nov 16 05:08:31 what if I became addicted to c3x00? Nov 16 05:08:46 hrw|work: then collie support dies :-) Nov 16 05:09:12 hrw|work: therapy? leaving for brunch Nov 16 05:09:23 the only stuff I do that needs a 3x00 is mplayer, not really justification :-) Nov 16 05:09:24 XorA: rather not - I dont have funds to get any pda Nov 16 05:09:50 ~dict brunch Nov 16 05:09:53 Dictionary 'brunch' (2 of 4): combination breakfast and lunch; usually served in late morning ;; \brunch\ n. 1. a late breakfast or an early lunch. [WordNet 1.5]. Nov 16 05:14:57 so I get c3x00 for testing and became addicted then after returning it I will be frustrated because of lack so my dev skills will drop and who will be guilty? Nov 16 05:15:00 :) Nov 16 05:15:59 ~change 739 eur to gbp Nov 16 05:16:04 739.00 Euro (EUR) makes 500.287 Pound (GBP) (from http://www.xe.com/) Nov 16 05:17:29 XorA: What's that for? Nov 16 05:17:47 hmm.. 3100 is cheaper then 3000 Nov 16 05:17:48 lardman|work: trisoft.de Nov 16 05:18:05 XorA: Japan direct, etc. are significantly cheaper iirc Nov 16 05:18:21 lardman|work: 400 GBP on ebay currently Nov 16 05:18:34 pricejapan.com is 487EUR Nov 16 05:18:47 hrw|work: perhaps they are trying to push people to buy them by pricing them higher; or perhaps they are just looking at the supply Nov 16 05:18:54 ~change 487 eur to pln Nov 16 05:18:59 487.00 Euro (EUR) makes 1,939.76 Zloty (PLN) (from http://www.xe.com/) Nov 16 05:19:11 ~change 487 eur to gbp Nov 16 05:19:18 487.00 Euro (EUR) makes 329.689 Pound (GBP) (from http://www.xe.com/) Nov 16 05:19:24 much less painful Nov 16 05:19:38 * XorA cant get pricejapan website Nov 16 05:20:06 I have to get better paid job... but php programming is not good trade for it here Nov 16 05:20:07 May as well go for a c1000 though as they are the same hw, and cheaper still Nov 16 05:20:26 XorA: http://pricejapan.com/ does not work? firewalled... Nov 16 05:20:36 hrw|work: blank page Nov 16 05:20:54 funny Nov 16 05:21:44 hrw|work: a dodgy meta refresh that doesnt work Nov 16 05:21:49 pricejapan is cheaper then japandirect Nov 16 05:21:51 XorA: ah. Nov 16 05:21:58 XorA: http://pricejapan.com/PriceJapan_com.htm Nov 16 05:23:04 I can almost afford the pricejapan one Nov 16 05:24:00 <_law_> is there a key for ctrl on collie? i cant do ctrl+c Nov 16 05:24:08 <_law_> i also search esc Nov 16 05:24:38 _law_: esc=cancel Nov 16 05:24:47 _law_: ctrl-c = Fn-c Nov 16 05:24:57 or Fn-Shift-C Nov 16 05:25:16 <_law_> hrw|work, thanks will try i later on my collie Nov 16 05:28:02 <_law_> hrw|work, is there also an alt key? Nov 16 05:28:47 _law_: no Nov 16 05:32:31 ~change 567 usd to gbp Nov 16 05:32:36 567.00 United States Dollar (USD) makes 328.562 Pound (GBP) (from http://www.xe.com/) Nov 16 05:33:21 ~lart Crowley (ISP) Nov 16 05:33:21 * ibot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Crowley (ISP)'s head to break the homerun record Nov 16 05:46:06 hi Nov 16 05:58:45 back... Nov 16 06:02:31 hrw|work: i am not able to buy a c3100 and give it away. i sent a email to somebody who can do that. but pehaps he said, ok, vor 3 or 6 months. but we will see Nov 16 06:03:45 man.. I know that I use too much humor and/or sarcasm very often Nov 16 06:04:35 :) Nov 16 06:04:46 hrw|work: sorry, but where do you live? wroslaw? Nov 16 06:05:04 greentux: Poznan Nov 16 06:06:09 hrw|work: 150km east of berlin? Nov 16 06:07:02 hrw|work: ok, think 250km Nov 16 06:07:57 about 250km - 3.5h by train Nov 16 06:37:12 rp: ok checked out your changes and try again... :) Nov 16 06:38:27 greentux: I thought i'd pushed them a while ago - sorry about that... Nov 16 06:47:19 ... this is priceless... http://theobvious.typepad.com/blog/2005/11/cnn_does_not_kn.html Nov 16 06:47:24 they used satellite imagery from google but drew their own labels Nov 16 06:49:29 morning Nov 16 06:51:53 hiya Nov 16 06:55:29 Is somewhere a reference about the bbclasses online? Nov 16 06:55:51 is vanille down? Nov 16 06:58:03 It was yesterday Nov 16 06:58:12 seems down. i use mirror Nov 16 07:04:31 rp: ok, works fine. no oopses left :), but the "Empty flashes" are there (only for info) Nov 16 07:07:14 greentux: probably reformat of flash is needed to clear them Nov 16 07:07:18 re (after lunch) Nov 16 07:13:10 how to reformat? Nov 16 07:17:09 there is something in mtd-utils but I'm not familiar with it Nov 16 07:19:21 hello Nov 16 07:20:13 Where can i find openembedded.tar.gz please Nov 16 07:20:47 sgodard: you mean database snapshot with repository? Nov 16 07:20:48 ~ewi Nov 16 07:20:50 well, ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Nov 16 07:22:23 thx Nov 16 07:22:42 qqn parle francais ici svp ? Nov 16 07:23:16 sgodard: alan understand French but he is not here Nov 16 07:27:38 * chouimat runs away Nov 16 07:30:43 chouimat: ops. I forgot about canadians.. Nov 16 07:31:26 hrw|work: hehe Nov 16 07:48:41 hrw|work, greentux: Even messing with mtd tools doesn't clear those warnings. I'd just advise ignoring them. They only appear on borzoi/akita 2.6... Nov 16 07:50:01 ah. ok Nov 16 07:55:19 rp: akiti = borzoi - hdd i think... ok. no problem Nov 16 07:55:33 greentux: no - borzoi is akita + hdd rather ;) Nov 16 07:58:14 greentux: Both are large page flash devices and hence see the message. spitz is small page Nov 16 08:09:28 salut cedric Nov 16 08:09:35 tu es Francais Nov 16 08:10:35 lol. Nov 16 08:10:48 I guess someone coming from aubervilier is. Nov 16 08:13:48 * v8jlene is away: working or sleeping Nov 16 08:42:37 gtk+-2.8.6-r0: task do_compile: failed Nov 16 08:42:58 breaks in demos dir Nov 16 08:43:05 | no --raw --build-list Nov 16 08:43:14 | /bin/sh: no: command not found Nov 16 08:46:14 hmm ... better to apply the no-demos.patch ... it's not applied by default as it seems Nov 16 08:47:46 is there a special reason it has been commented out in .bb file? Nov 16 08:54:28 well, i see. the patch is wrong Nov 16 08:55:03 'perf' is missing in SRC_SUBDIRS Nov 16 08:58:02 fix and submit patch via bugtracker? Nov 16 09:00:11 will do Nov 16 09:13:52 hmm ... libsvg doesn't compile either ... Nov 16 09:13:56 | /home/matt/build/OE/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/expat.h:985: warning: 'cdecl' attribute directive ignored Nov 16 09:13:56 | svg_parser_expat.c:36: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_start_element' follows non-static declaration Nov 16 09:13:56 | svgint.h:613: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_start_element' was here Nov 16 09:13:56 | svg_parser_expat.c:40: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_end_element' follows non-static declaration Nov 16 09:13:59 | svgint.h:617: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_end_element' was here Nov 16 09:14:01 | svg_parser_expat.c:45: error: static declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_characters' follows non-static declaration Nov 16 09:14:04 | svgint.h:622: error: previous declaration of '_svg_parser_sax_characters' was here Nov 16 09:14:06 any idea? Nov 16 09:15:09 ~pastebin Nov 16 09:15:11 from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ Nov 16 09:17:21 do you inherit pkgconfig if you use it to find stuff, or create stuff with pkgconfig files, or both? Nov 16 09:19:09 it happens while building gpe-image for openzaurus-3.5.4/borzoi Nov 16 09:21:24 i am not sure if pkgconfig is defined in the default conf files Nov 16 09:36:23 * chouimat|busy is away: out of here Nov 16 10:10:12 hi mickeyl Nov 16 10:10:13 hi guys Nov 16 10:10:25 Crofton: inherit pkgconfig if you want .pc files to be installed into staging area for later usage Nov 16 10:10:26 hi R Nov 16 10:10:27 P Nov 16 10:10:59 RP: how is 2.6.15-rc behaving? Nov 16 10:11:34 thanks mickeyl, I broke down and read the source :) Nov 16 10:11:44 mickeyl: 2.6.15-rc1 isn't well tested yet due to lack of time on my part. I want to upgrade to the new SoC version before I push the .bb Nov 16 10:11:45 heh. good strategy Nov 16 10:12:01 mickeyl: 2.6.14-git3 is working well though Nov 16 10:12:10 RP: i see. I'm eager to play with DynTick which appeard in 2.6.14 something Nov 16 10:12:20 did you have a chance to play with that? Nov 16 10:12:31 mickeyl: The only issue with it appeared to be cardctl eject causing a massive chain of oopes... Nov 16 10:12:36 RP: FYI, new SoC (0.7) is coming tommorow Nov 16 10:12:49 lrg: Right - I'll wait then :) Nov 16 10:12:58 btw., I met do13[offline] today. He's a nice guy :) Nov 16 10:13:18 lrg: Mainline started going a bit mad which has meant i've had other things to deal with :-/ Nov 16 10:13:40 mickeyl: I haven't tried dynticks. I'm not sure pxa's can do that... Nov 16 10:13:58 RP: hmm, http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=8749af68216e1ebf6460992fce548f400ecf63a4 Nov 16 10:14:02 Not sure it's worth it either Nov 16 10:14:16 mickeyl: I would say that the -git3 kernels are much improved for the cxx00 devices though and I don't want you to ship a 2.6.14-rc1 image for spitz in 3.5.4 Nov 16 10:15:04 mickeyl: In theroy that would suggest we can use it... Nov 16 10:15:19 RP: I'll do some tests. Nov 16 10:15:37 RP: hmm... ok, so you vote for 2.6.14-git14 as 3.5.4 kernel for Spitz|Akita|Borzoi ? Nov 16 10:15:41 mickeyl: I'm not sure what we can do about 3.5.4 and 2.6 on cxx00... Nov 16 10:16:11 mickeyl: I'd vote for that, yes. My only concern is the amount of upgrades we might need to pull into the release branch to pull it off Nov 16 10:16:36 i wouldn't like that as well Nov 16 10:16:52 re dyntick: http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/12/13/70 Nov 16 10:17:17 it may be more wise to ship 2.4 on these devices and package upgrade packages for 2.6 modules and the kernel Nov 16 10:17:45 mickeyl: I think the users will certainly want 2.6.x available even if it is less stable Nov 16 10:18:00 it's not less stable Nov 16 10:18:03 just less complete Nov 16 10:18:08 usability 2.6 on borzoi: only sound (lrg will fix this) and some reboot issues are bad Nov 16 10:18:10 (i reckon you mean that) Nov 16 10:18:21 what's with reboot? Nov 16 10:18:23 yeah, sorry, getting late Nov 16 10:18:50 greentux: and no usb client Nov 16 10:19:20 mickeyl: its not that much less complete now. We're just missing usbclient. Sound needs attention in the image but is getting there in kernel space Nov 16 10:19:29 yes, my funny usbclient :) Nov 16 10:19:38 i'll make my mind up about that in the next days. I'm on vacation for one week starting with Friday. I like to release 3.5.4 by the end of November if possible. Nov 16 10:19:49 lrg: will MIC in be supported? Nov 16 10:19:57 RP: I see. very good. Nov 16 10:20:09 greentux: should be, I'm doing that now. Nov 16 10:20:10 mickeyl: I'd say release 3.5.4 as 2,4 only. We can then make 3.5.4.1 for the cxx00 machines from the .dev branch Nov 16 10:20:50 mickeyl: What I don't want is a load of bug reports on old 2.6 kernels which we've fixed... Nov 16 10:21:14 I agree. It's either backport recent 2.6 or 2.4-only. Nothing in between. Nov 16 10:22:14 A backport would need basefiles changes, updater changes, new udev and new module-init-tools off the top of my head Nov 16 10:22:21 eek. Nov 16 10:22:22 NO Nov 16 10:22:38 :) Nov 16 10:22:48 mickeyl: You see my concern ;-) Nov 16 10:22:54 just as long as we say that 2.6 will be released, otherwise there will be complaints, etc. Nov 16 10:23:05 lardman|work: *nod* I'll make that clear Nov 16 10:23:28 not complaints, mutterings perhaps - you know what I mean Nov 16 10:23:42 mickeyl: I also suspect the c7x0 updater.sh is broken. Keep meaning to check Nov 16 10:23:57 RP: why's that? Nov 16 10:24:17 lardman|work: I've had a broken one appear from a recent image... Nov 16 10:25:56 RP: okay Nov 16 10:26:01 mickeyl: I think a 3.5.4.1 from the dev branch for cxx00 machines maybe even released at the same time as 3.5.4 would be good. It can use the 3.5.4 feeds Nov 16 10:26:13 I'm off, night all Nov 16 10:27:00 mickeyl: I'm even prepared to try and generate the images if need be although I'm suffering disk space issues... Nov 16 10:27:56 RP: hmm, yes. Nov 16 10:28:15 might be the best way Nov 16 10:29:02 or call them 3.5.5-pre1 :) Nov 16 10:29:14 yeah Nov 16 10:32:31 cu Nov 16 10:32:40 time to go home Nov 16 10:33:29 cu hrw Nov 16 10:33:56 is that anything to worry about: NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'linux_module_packages' is not defined while Nov 16 10:34:06 i get this if i do a bitbake -e Nov 16 10:36:39 mickeyl: I'll aim to have a 2.6.15-rc kernel in OE by Friday. That will become the dev kernel and I'll promote 2.6.14-git3 to stable as nobody's complained about it much :) Nov 16 10:37:38 mickeyl: Nice you met dirk btw. I'm pleased to see tosa making mainline :) Nov 16 10:40:35 RP: ok, that sounds pretty good Nov 16 10:41:04 RP: yeah. he's commited to continuing development, but he has very scarce time resources Nov 16 10:41:11 wife and 2 year old kid Nov 16 10:43:12 mickeyl: I can see the problem. It does take lots of time :-/ Nov 16 10:43:24 *nod* Nov 16 10:43:43 need to leave now. I have a match lateron. bbl. Nov 16 10:43:46 cu Nov 16 10:43:59 mickey|sports: ttfn Nov 16 10:55:28 rp: what chaces do u see for usbnet, reboots and cardctl eject? Nov 16 10:56:32 chaces = chances... sorry, late Nov 16 10:56:39 greentux: Someone needs to spend time on them. My time is limited but I will do them eventually if nobody else has already. There is no timescale Nov 16 10:59:11 rp: the cardctl is uggly, the other "features" i agree. Nov 16 11:04:08 greentux: Ugly or not, I need free time to fix it and I do so on a volunteer basis, unless someone decides to pay me or the company I work for to work on such things... Nov 16 11:05:25 rp: some jobs for students we could pay, but i think its not cheap to pay the company u work for Nov 16 11:06:04 rp: i will to look for a kernel-hacker-student around. perhaps there is a chance. Nov 16 11:07:51 greentux: You'd have to talk to my boss about what I cost (www.o-hand.com) ;-). Students are a good source of cheap labour (I was one not so long ago) :) Nov 16 11:08:09 * RP -> food Nov 16 11:08:33 greentux: Keep in mind students usually lack a device to work on... Nov 16 11:08:58 rp: a device should not be the problem Nov 16 11:11:38 ok, cu. good evening around Nov 16 11:15:14 * chouimat|busy is back. Nov 16 12:31:20 Ciao all Nov 16 12:32:33 hey pigi Nov 16 12:32:46 hey koen|770 ! Nov 16 12:36:07 hey Nov 16 12:36:23 koen, get me some microwave buritos Nov 16 12:37:33 ciao Pigi Nov 16 12:37:46 ciao gremlin[it] . Nov 16 12:40:34 koen, get me some microwave buritos Nov 16 12:42:14 koen, eat some fish tacos for me. I could get those in San Diego but not here Nov 16 12:43:11 mreimer: the ximian people have ordered pizza ;) Nov 16 12:43:52 :-) Nov 16 12:44:08 ~stab spam Nov 16 12:44:10 * ibot runs at spam with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Nov 16 12:44:10 for me ... go straight with margaritas :) :) :) :) Nov 16 12:46:45 heh Nov 16 12:48:50 zecke: anyway, mono burritos taste much better Nov 16 12:49:15 hehe Nov 16 12:49:56 gosh no jampdf in fink Nov 16 12:56:27 has anyone tried to port kismet-qt in oe ? Nov 16 13:02:03 Pigi: no ;) Nov 16 13:02:34 I'm trying, but my c++ (un)knoledge don't help me very much ! Nov 16 13:07:42 what's the difference ( in c++ ) between #include and #include ? Nov 16 13:08:11 the former are C style strings ... Nov 16 13:08:22 ah ok. Nov 16 13:08:28 the latter c++ sting class Nov 16 13:09:25 so what's wrong with this method definition string Mac2String() const { ? Nov 16 13:09:48 why do I get a "error: syntax error before `)' token" Nov 16 13:10:20 () are user to call a function ... Nov 16 13:10:29 *used Nov 16 13:10:54 not for a variable name Nov 16 13:11:33 it should be a method, not a variable ... Nov 16 13:11:53 Pigi: string is stl compatible Nov 16 13:11:59 Pigi: string.h is deprecated Nov 16 13:12:15 try string Mac2String(void) const { Nov 16 13:12:17 that's all inside the kismet-qt :( Nov 16 13:12:22 Pigi: if you use string you need to use std::string Nov 16 13:12:24 that's a good hint Nov 16 13:12:31 gremlin[it]: well, it is (void) anyway in C++ Nov 16 13:13:22 haha turkey lost Nov 16 13:13:38 i notice sometime help ... and i like to have always a type in a funcion definition :) Nov 16 13:14:44 zecke, you were right, but isn't some sort of pragma or whatever to use old style declaration ? otherwise it will be a port of kismet-qt, not an "import" in oe :) Nov 16 13:14:48 zecke or have use namespace std Nov 16 13:15:06 using std::string; ;) Nov 16 13:15:11 or using namespace std; Nov 16 13:15:17 but not in the .h file Nov 16 13:15:44 I see. Then kismet-qt would/should be a port :) Nov 16 13:15:48 ops using right ... :) Nov 16 13:16:10 gremlin[it]: use could be correct as well Nov 16 13:17:39 where is the 'definition' of the command to do cvs update in oe (for hh-kernel) ... Nov 16 13:17:55 i need to add '-z3' ... ;( ... Nov 16 13:20:41 gremlin[it]: well use ~/.cvs ? Nov 16 13:20:51 gremlin[it]: or change org.oe.dev/conf/bitbake.conf Nov 16 13:29:52 thanks Nov 16 13:31:28 zecke, is "int" in another namespace ? Nov 16 13:31:42 ( yeah, yeah, I know I should RTFM ) Nov 16 13:32:19 no int is a base type ... Nov 16 13:32:28 Pigi: it could be a type ;) Nov 16 13:32:40 Pigi: int i = 10; Nov 16 13:32:42 It should. :) Nov 16 13:32:43 ;) Nov 16 13:33:01 but is that I get other unusefull error ;) Nov 16 13:33:08 sadly I'm still not able to compile on OS X, otherwise I would test it Nov 16 13:35:30 I will try to go on, and in worst case, I'll wait until someone would do it ;) Nov 16 13:38:04 Pigi i'm here ... Nov 16 13:38:45 heh. It seems that who wrote kismet_qt wasn't almost funny in is writing abitude ;) Nov 16 13:43:35 good evening Nov 16 13:43:45 hi epronk Nov 16 13:44:02 is Richard Purdie here? Nov 16 13:53:14 gremlin : never seen it so quite here :) Nov 16 13:53:46 epronk: he is here ;) Nov 16 14:15:32 it's that time Nov 16 14:15:35 nite all Nov 16 15:21:17 * Geo_KM is away: Away at the moment Nov 16 15:51:44 epronk: You called? Nov 16 16:26:25 RP : still there? Nov 16 16:33:17 epronk: yes Nov 16 16:37:52 RP : thanks for handling the Philips files Nov 16 16:39:13 in which tree can i find the files? Will they appear in the daily tarball on http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ ? Nov 16 16:46:05 epronk: Yes, they should do Nov 16 16:46:14 epronk: I hope my comments we ok? Nov 16 16:46:37 epronk: The files will appear in the .dev branch Nov 16 16:49:56 ok. yes, i agree fully with the comments. (see reply) ok, it is late -- gotta go Nov 16 16:50:34 epronk: ok, 'night! - late here too :) Nov 16 17:10:15 * v8jlene is back (gone 08:56:26) Nov 16 18:49:58 hey all.. Nov 16 18:50:24 I'm trying out gpe-plucker, but I get: "Error opening document /home/EKG.pdb" Nov 16 18:50:29 any ideas what might be up? Nov 16 18:56:35 * v8jlene is away: working or sleeping Nov 16 20:23:28 'ello Nov 16 20:23:44 anyone know if I need any specific fonts to get my plucker running? Nov 16 20:24:26 I get: Nov 16 20:24:45 gpe-plucker --display :0 \ accepted \ dpi is 99 \ Error opening document /home/Clinical%20Exam.pdb Nov 16 20:36:51 * v8jlene is back (gone 01:40:16) Nov 16 20:39:44 orangey: Not a lot of people around this time of day - I don't use any UI stuff so have no idea myself... Nov 17 01:11:12 i need to cross compile programs in C to xscale Nov 17 01:11:19 any one can help Nov 17 01:14:32 linnuxxy: use the gcc, is a pretty good compiler ;) Nov 17 01:16:03 how to get gcc to compile for xscale Nov 17 01:16:05 ? Nov 17 01:16:27 my host is x86 fc3 Nov 17 01:17:05 im only trying to compile the helloworld.c Nov 17 01:18:47 hello there ... plz help Nov 17 01:32:18 linnuxxy: see handhelds.org and get precompiled toolchain. Nov 17 01:35:53 ok thnx Nov 17 01:52:21 morning Nov 17 01:53:12 morning all Nov 17 01:53:15 hey RP Nov 17 01:53:30 RP: I see you were updating last night, anything interesting? Nov 17 01:53:51 XorA: Not this time around for c7x0. Just akita/borzoi Nov 17 01:54:10 hi every one Nov 17 01:54:30 RP: cool, Imiss commit messages :-) Nov 17 01:54:36 i need to cross compile programs in C to xscale Nov 17 01:55:17 linnuxxy: so download the precompiled toolchain from handhelds.org as someone has already mentioned Nov 17 01:55:53 XorA: You'll probably get a backlog of commit messages when mickeyl wakes his machine up... Nov 17 01:56:48 i cant find it Nov 17 01:57:23 RP: but then im moving house and Iwont have time to fully appreciate them :-) Nov 17 01:59:06 linnuxxy: ) Nov 17 01:59:06 [08:47:59] XorA|gone is now known as XorA Nov 17 01:59:15 hmm.. Nov 17 01:59:41 linnuxxy: http://www.handhelds.org/download/projects/toolchain Nov 17 02:00:24 XorA: Sounds like you're in for a fun weekend... Nov 17 02:01:01 HI. Does anyone build for jornada6xx machine? Nov 17 02:02:10 thank you RP...you are the man Nov 17 02:03:04 but only one question left... im sorry to ask alot :) Nov 17 02:04:11 to compile for xscale what is it ok to use the arm compiler? Nov 17 02:04:43 linnuxxy: xscale is an arm processor Nov 17 02:06:42 so to compile: "gcc -b arm-linux hello.c" ? Nov 17 02:12:45 morning Nov 17 02:13:27 <_law_> hrw|work, morning Nov 17 02:13:31 v8jlene: we have jornadas in OE but not so often tested Nov 17 02:15:19 ~curse kopete jabber support Nov 17 02:15:21 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, kopete jabber support ! Nov 17 02:17:01 morning folks Nov 17 02:17:15 gm Nov 17 02:18:08 hrw|work: Ok. I have a fix for gmp 4.1.4 for sh4... would be nice to know it doesn't break sh3 was all. As far as I can tell it should alread be broken on sh3 so it should fix it there as well... Nov 17 02:19:09 v8jlene: you can try to do sh3 build to test Nov 17 02:21:44 hrw|work: Yes, I could... but it takes several hours to build the cross-compiler here... would have been much nice if someone had something sitting around ready to check with ;) Nov 17 02:22:33 sure Nov 17 02:23:56 Quick uclibc question: everything builds fine and statically linked programs work fine, but the dynamic linker doesn't work. Does sound familiar to anyone? I suspect it's something sh4 specific ;( Nov 17 02:27:50 I was able to build opie-image for c7x0 with uclibc. didnt tested it on device but it built Nov 17 02:28:19 I've used uclibc fine on mipsel. Nov 17 02:28:35 Noodles: wrt54? Nov 17 02:28:50 No, AR7 (Netgear DG834G) Nov 17 02:29:09 I should really tidy that up and commit it. Nov 17 02:31:23 morning all Nov 17 02:31:32 Yeah, didn't think it would be a common issue but you never know. I might try a native build of uclibc first and see if that works any better before looking into much more. Nov 17 02:31:36 hi dirk, hrw|work Nov 17 02:32:07 hi richard Nov 17 02:44:53 ~oe mirrors Nov 17 02:49:07 v8jlene: have you checked that uclibc 0.9.28 works with dynamic linker for non {i386,mips,arm} ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Nov 17 02:59:56 2005