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Nov 19 03:50:17 <CIA-3> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * rb5ec6784... 10/: handhelds-pxa-2.6: updated hx4700 defconfig for 2.6.13-hh1
Nov 19 03:50:21 <CIA-3> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r7a60456e... 10/: 
Nov 19 03:50:22 <CIA-3> ipaq-pxa270.conf: update hx4700 machine conf for 2.6.13-hh1
Nov 19 03:50:22 <CIA-3> - add gadgetfs and nls_iso8859-1 modules
Nov 19 03:50:22 <CIA-3> - rename snd_pxa_i2sound_hx4700 to snd_hx4700-audio
Nov 19 03:50:22 <CIA-3> - fix snd-mixer-oss module autoload
Nov 19 03:53:17 <linnuxxy> i have prblem in running simple programs on xscale MSB cpus
Nov 19 03:53:34 <linnuxxy> i use printf("hi"); no problem..... i use printf("Hi: %d", i); alot of rabush is out
Nov 19 04:01:48 <happycactus> Hi to everybody :)
Nov 19 04:02:12 <linnuxxy> hi
Nov 19 04:03:49 <happycactus> I am developing on a colibri board from toradex (http://www,toradex.com)
Nov 19 04:04:12 <happycactus> The distro is based on OE and built on glibc
Nov 19 04:04:32 <happycactus> but I need to use ulibc due to lack of resources
Nov 19 04:05:38 <happycactus> Is there some doc you suggest to read ? I am new on OE...
Nov 19 04:05:48 <happycactus> I have read the WIKI on oe...
Nov 19 04:06:35 <CIA-3> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * r593286e0... 10/: gaim: update the desktop-name patch for gaim cvs
Nov 19 06:20:48 <linnuxxy> hi guys
Nov 19 06:21:01 <linnuxxy> i need some help here please
Nov 19 06:32:27 <CIA-3> 03ph5 07org.oe.dev * rfef709d5... 10/: avahi: new release 0.6
Nov 19 07:37:07 <zecke> hi
Nov 19 07:43:57 <gerwinin> Hey zecke
Nov 19 07:44:03 <gerwinin> How are you doing today ?
Nov 19 07:45:55 <zecke> i was shopping ;)
Nov 19 07:47:11 <zecke> ibot: test
Nov 19 07:47:13 <ibot> Test Failed!
Nov 19 07:48:17 <gremlin[it]> zecke computer shopping ?
Nov 19 07:48:28 <gremlin[it]> hi zecke :) 
Nov 19 07:50:29 <happycactus> gremlin[it]: does "it" means "italy" ? ;)
Nov 19 07:51:21 <gerwinin> Zecke what did you want to buy ?
Nov 19 07:51:50 <gerwinin> Zecke : if you still have problems compiling due to low memory or processor you can log in to my system if you want 
Nov 19 07:53:31 <gremlin[it]> happycactus nothing ... but is the 2character code for italy ... 
Nov 19 07:55:01 <happycactus> yes I know, we have the same provider :)
Nov 19 07:55:45 <gremlin[it]> ahhh un altro italiano !!! 
Nov 19 07:55:45 <gremlin[it]> another italian ... 
Nov 19 07:56:37 <happycactus> LOL ;) nice to meet you
Nov 19 07:59:06 <gerwinin> Italy is cool
Nov 19 08:00:26 <zecke> gremlin[it]: no with my mom, food and such
Nov 19 08:00:40 <gremlin[it]> i prefear phoenix ... it's warm :) :) : )
Nov 19 08:07:14 <bada> hi
Nov 19 08:07:35 <bada> what is jffs2_gcd_mtd4?
Nov 19 08:07:55 <gerwinin> Zecke : I want to add astweb to the repo how do I do this ?
Nov 19 08:13:31 <gerwinin> I just read here that a guy is expecting his 31st kid :)
Nov 19 08:13:46 <gerwinin> He gets an allowance of 4000 euro: )
Nov 19 08:20:35 * gerwinin sees boiling plastic next to him :(
Nov 19 08:27:02 <pb_> hail zecke
Nov 19 08:33:21 <gremlin[it]> hi pb_  :) 
Nov 19 08:34:59 <pb_> hi gremlin[it] 
Nov 19 08:40:18 <gremlin[it]> i hope to finish soon (one hour) ... anhd hh-kernel-26 will compile straight with the default h3600_config ... 
Nov 19 08:40:28 <pb_> very good
Nov 19 08:40:31 <gremlin[it]> i cannot chack cause i don't have a jacket for ipaq :( 
Nov 19 08:40:35 <gremlin[it]> *check 
Nov 19 08:43:26 <gremlin[it]> hi zecke 
Nov 19 08:44:00 <gremlin[it]> mhh what's the navman_sleeve ???
Nov 19 08:45:50 <pb_> gremlin[it]: gps receiver
Nov 19 08:46:21 <gremlin[it]> ohh never hear about it .. 
Nov 19 08:47:34 <gremlin[it]> mhh some one still use the oss audio drivers in kernel 2.6 ??? :) 
Nov 19 08:54:12 <pb_> native oss?  no
Nov 19 08:54:23 <pb_> oss api?  yes
Nov 19 08:54:56 <gremlin[it]> pb_ done ;) ... now i prepare and send a pathc to hh-kernel :) 
Nov 19 10:16:08 <emte> gremlin[it], i use OSS drivers because the alsa ones are garbage for highend cards
Nov 19 10:17:55 <gremlin[it]> i mean OSS driver for uda1341, the audio codec for the ipaq h3600 :) ... 
Nov 19 10:17:56 <emte> the mixer was poorly written and can only handle dB steps of 10 and basic digital support while my card uses steps of 4dB and 10dB and has 8 digital channels
Nov 19 10:18:02 <emte> ah
Nov 19 10:18:43 <emte> no clue sound sounds funny on my ipaq
Nov 19 10:18:56 <emte> it's only worked properly in wince
Nov 19 10:19:00 <gremlin[it]> i'm doing low-lever adjusting of kernel for my old ipaq ;) ... 
Nov 19 10:19:26 <emte> ah
Nov 19 10:19:45 <emte> maybe sound will be better on my ipaq when your done :P
Nov 19 10:22:40 <gremlin[it]> which ipaq ?
Nov 19 10:23:20 <zecke> re
Nov 19 10:24:00 <pb_> wb
Nov 19 10:29:12 <TyggerBob> anyone else having problems doing a GPE build.. having a problem with dbus-bindings?
Nov 19 11:25:15 <greentux> ~seen lala
Nov 19 11:25:19 <ibot> lala <n=^lala^@139.12.2.252> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 3d 51m 11s ago, saying: 'i get this if i do a bitbake -e'.
Nov 19 11:25:38 <greentux> ~seen greentux
Nov 19 11:25:40 <ibot> greentux is currently on #oe (2m 54s).  Has said a total of 2 messages.  Is idling for 1s
Nov 19 11:26:00 <greentux> ~seen [lala]
Nov 19 11:26:02 <ibot> [lala] <n=^lala^@ip-217-18-177-18.reverse.dsi.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 6h 59m 50s ago, saying: 'installing the lib in host has helped'.
Nov 19 11:30:11 <zecke> koen: hi
Nov 19 12:09:38 <TyggerBob> can someone here try building openswan and see if it works for them?
Nov 19 12:09:51 <TyggerBob> Mine's failling. says it's missing a patch
Nov 19 12:10:25 <gremlin[it]> TyggerBob 
Nov 19 12:10:36 <TyggerBob> gremlin[it]..
Nov 19 12:10:38 <TyggerBob> :)
Nov 19 12:10:42 <gremlin[it]> TyggerBob create an empty file where patch should be 
Nov 19 12:11:05 <gremlin[it]> at least in this way it compile ... don't know if it work ... 
Nov 19 12:12:22 <TyggerBob> Ahh.. is this a known image
Nov 19 12:12:47 <gremlin[it]> i did "> ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/openswan/openswan-2.2.0/gcc4-fixes.patch" 
Nov 19 12:12:55 <gremlin[it]> but i'm looking now the file is big ... 
Nov 19 12:13:09 <gremlin[it]> so try to update the oe with monotone ;) 
Nov 19 12:14:01 <TyggerBob> hrm.. I just did..
Nov 19 12:15:10 <TyggerBob> hrm.. what's the update command again?
Nov 19 12:15:16 <TyggerBob> never mind..
Nov 19 12:15:17 <TyggerBob> DOH
Nov 19 12:16:16 <gremlin[it]> monotone update
Nov 19 12:16:31 <TyggerBob> hrm...
Nov 19 12:17:13 <TyggerBob> so.. I'm new to this new format for OE. do you need both org.openembedded.dev and dreambox as well?
Nov 19 12:17:48 <gremlin[it]> i use only dev 
Nov 19 12:17:53 <TyggerBob> and it works
Nov 19 12:18:07 <TyggerBob> ?
Nov 19 12:18:12 <gremlin[it]> i run 'monotone update' from org.openembedded.dev dir 
Nov 19 12:18:21 <gremlin[it]> usually yes :) 
Nov 19 12:18:26 <TyggerBob> ok.
Nov 19 12:18:28 <TyggerBob> that's what I did
Nov 19 12:19:03 <gremlin[it]> but i'm doing more early kernel devel test than full funcional environment 
Nov 19 12:19:56 <TyggerBob> :)
Nov 19 12:20:02 * TyggerBob 's an enduser..
Nov 19 12:20:17 <TyggerBob> I'm back to updating sectest-gpe-image..
Nov 19 12:20:51 <TyggerBob> so I have my customized version for doing security testing/ penetration testing
Nov 19 12:21:06 <TyggerBob> rehi, koen
Nov 19 12:23:18 <TyggerBob> gremlin[it], is dbus building for you ok?
Nov 19 12:25:04 <gremlin[it]> don't know i build a bootstrap-image ... 
Nov 19 12:25:44 <TyggerBob> ok.. thanks anyway
Nov 19 12:25:58 <gremlin[it]> no i don't have dbus on the image ... ;( 
Nov 19 12:26:03 <gremlin[it]> sorry 
Nov 19 12:26:04 <TyggerBob> no problem
Nov 19 12:28:10 <TyggerBob> thanks for your help
Nov 19 12:29:14 <gremlin[it]> nothing 
Nov 19 12:29:31 <TyggerBob> no.. your idea about openswan got me past there, anyway :)
Nov 19 12:54:46 <duffolonious> kergoth: do you live in the twin cities area?  If you don't mind me asking.
Nov 19 12:56:56 <kergoth> for now, yep
Nov 19 12:57:13 <pb_> hi kergoth
Nov 19 12:57:44 <duffolonious> I see.
Nov 19 12:58:33 <duffolonious> I don't suppose you would like to talk at a tclug meeting sometime (it would be on the umn campus).
Nov 19 13:03:59 <kergoth> its been brought up before, one of the guys that runs it contacted me a few years back, but it was right after i had moved to tx
Nov 19 13:04:01 <kergoth> will se
Nov 19 13:08:03 <duffolonious> ok, it's been a bit boring lately, so it would be nice, imho.
Nov 19 14:32:29 <zecke> hrw|gone: thanks ;)
Nov 19 16:26:07 <cyphunk> does anyone have an idea of how bitbake checks dependencies?  I have a long build that has had errors in the middle and I'd like to fix manually
Nov 19 16:26:33 <cyphunk> the error is with a version of one of the dependencies so I'd like to fix it manually and have  bitbake pick up the rest of the build from there
Nov 19 16:27:01 <cyphunk> (fyi, I'm using psyco for cache'ing, not sure if that matters)
Nov 19 16:28:32 <emte> cyphunk, it reads the dependancy list
Nov 19 16:29:01 <emte> the one provided IN the bbfile
Nov 19 16:29:17 <cyphunk> okay, going digging, thanks.
Nov 19 16:44:32 <cyphunk> okay, the problem I am having is that there are tons of bb files.
Nov 19 16:44:44 <cyphunk> still trying to understand the structure to find the root
Nov 19 18:07:00 <cyphunk> while I see the DEPENDS directive being used in the .bb in question I'm still not sure how bitbake uses this
Nov 19 18:07:02 <cyphunk> any ideas?
Nov 19 18:07:06 <cyphunk> DEPENDS = "freetype"
Nov 19 18:09:55 <cyphunk> could I say DEPENDS="freetype-2.1.10" if I wanted to restrict it to grab a specific version?
Nov 19 18:10:40 <cyphunk> or is the DEPENDs just a variable used by one of the .bb defined functions
Nov 19 18:10:48 <cyphunk> ?
Nov 19 18:30:35 <cyphunk> is there further documentation for bitbake somewhere other than just the manual on berlios?
Nov 19 18:47:34 <CIA-3> 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rca72da91... 10/: ixp4xx-csr, ixp-osal: remove unrequired stuff from LE patches in all 2.0
Nov 19 18:47:38 <CIA-3> 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r4777f6cb... 10/: ixp4xx-csr, ixp-osal: minimal LE patch in 2.0
Nov 19 20:05:51 <CIA-3> 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rcea2e905... 10/: 
Nov 19 20:05:51 <CIA-3> ixp4xx-csr: deconfigure ixp400.ko in 2.0
Nov 19 20:05:51 <CIA-3>  - this removes stuff from ixp400.ko which is not used by the ixp4oo-eth
Nov 19 20:05:51 <CIA-3>  - driver, making the module significantly smaller.
Nov 19 20:56:52 <cyphunk> is there  away to make bitbake cache the entire dependency (And etc) graph that it builds on each run?
Nov 19 20:57:36 <cyphunk> i  fix one tiny bug and then have to way another 15 min for it to rebuild the graph (and yes, I am using the python psyco JIT)
Nov 19 22:42:44 <jumpkick> is there a package for "screen" in OE?
Nov 19 22:55:03 <kergoth> here's an idea
Nov 19 22:55:08 <kergoth> go look
Nov 19 23:08:05 <jumpkick> kergoth: I looked in the feeds for OZ...  where do I look in the packages for OZ...
Nov 19 23:08:13 <jumpkick> OE
Nov 19 23:09:39 <kergoth> in .. the .. openembedded repository maybe?
Nov 19 23:12:15 <jumpkick> Is there a way to get that info out of the monotone interface @ http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/index.psp ? or do I need to set-up a build chain?
Nov 19 23:13:37 <xiaowen> You don't need a toolchain to read the build files.
Nov 19 23:13:40 <kergoth> you dont need a 'a build chain' to check it out of monotone.  just follow the steps to check it out. doesnt mean you have to build it
Nov 19 23:13:54 <kergoth> i dont think the web interface lets you browse around files, just revisions
Nov 19 23:13:58 <kergoth> coudl be wrong though
Nov 20 00:23:09 <memeruiz> this page reverted: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MemoryRequirements -> I think vandalised some minutes ago
Nov 20 01:42:48 <linnuxxy> hi all
Nov 20 01:51:06 <memeruiz> another vandalized page: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/StyleGuide, just reverted
Nov 20 01:52:40 <linnuxxy> i have a problem in running printf("Hi %d",9); on big-endian xscale
Nov 20 01:53:02 <linnuxxy> if i use printf("hi anything"); it is ok
Nov 20 01:53:32 <linnuxxy> when i use printf("Hi %d",9); .... alot of rabush showed out
Nov 20 02:01:37 <linnuxxy> i have a problem in running printf("Hi %d",9); on big-endian xscale
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