**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 05 02:59:56 2005 Dec 05 03:02:06 nice to hrw Dec 05 03:02:10 hi RP Dec 05 03:02:18 hey koen Dec 05 03:02:51 hey oyo Dec 05 03:02:58 hi oyo Dec 05 03:03:02 hi oyo Dec 05 03:03:11 morning folks Dec 05 03:03:21 morning mickeyl Dec 05 03:03:28 hi mickeyl Dec 05 03:04:08 ~seen justinp Dec 05 03:04:11 justinp was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 41d 8h 54m 58s ago, saying: 'AppleBoy: haven't really noticed, no. Wasn't watching when I was downloading. I'll try to remember to pay attention next time ;-)'. Dec 05 03:05:30 hey mickeyl Dec 05 03:05:55 what the status on 2.6 for spitz, akita and borzoi in the .oz354fam083 branch? Dec 05 03:06:26 koen: Its not going to work from the branch - too much needs importing from .dev Dec 05 03:06:35 ok Dec 05 03:07:02 koen: After 3.5.4 is released, I'll release a 3.5.4.1 from .dev with 2.6 images for cxx00 and maybe c7x0 Dec 05 03:07:19 feed will be the 3.5.4 release and this will just be the base system Dec 05 03:07:31 so this is correct for the branch: http://pastebin.com/449366 ? Dec 05 03:08:07 koen: yes Dec 05 03:08:13 ok, thanks Dec 05 03:08:28 + KERNEL_VERSION_tosa = "2.4" Dec 05 03:11:56 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5690b819... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: specify the correct kernel_version for different zaurus models Dec 05 03:14:31 mickeyl: I'm starting a buildrun for oz3.5.4 with all machines to spot non-building parts Dec 05 03:17:01 mickeyl: if you are interested in the resulting images, just give me a sign Dec 05 03:17:07 koen: good idea. *sign* Dec 05 03:17:10 :) Dec 05 03:17:12 :) Dec 05 03:19:23 koen: The oz kernel in the branch probably needs some "archive/"'s adding to the SCR_URIs Dec 05 03:24:41 morn ing Dec 05 03:25:58 RP: I'll just wget -r RPSRC and dump *.patch in DLDIR Dec 05 03:28:07 koen: its up to you. I think nearly every patch in that kernel is in archive now so it should be easy to update Dec 05 03:28:09 morning XorA Dec 05 03:33:03 mornin. Dec 05 03:36:01 hi all Dec 05 03:36:51 RP: hi, I've been away for some time, I hope everything is working as fine as it did before Dec 05 03:37:45 hi there Dec 05 03:38:24 * marcan has a tosa which can browse google, but drops TCP packets on everything else... ?!? Dec 05 03:40:58 marcan: firewall ? Dec 05 03:41:29 did the same on another network, plus my firewall works well with every other device, and worked well with the sharp rom. Dec 05 03:41:42 OZ here, wifi. Dec 05 03:41:55 I might rebuild OZ from my OE tree, see if there are any updates Dec 05 03:41:58 but it is really weird Dec 05 03:42:01 i mean opie-firewall. Dec 05 03:42:17 I'm on GPE, and iptables is cleared on the device Dec 05 03:42:29 ok. then i don't know Dec 05 03:42:30 ^^ Dec 05 03:42:37 heh Dec 05 03:42:48 neither do I Dec 05 03:42:56 it used to work, at least on an older OZ with opie Dec 05 03:43:03 but I doubt opie vs gpe makes the difference Dec 05 03:43:05 or does it? Dec 05 03:43:08 time to investigate :) Dec 05 03:44:05 hi katossi_uni, hopefully it should be... Dec 05 03:45:23 RP: cool Dec 05 03:50:16 morning all Dec 05 03:57:51 morning ade|desk Dec 05 04:00:22 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rab4f1655... 10/: e2fsprogs: patch Makefile.ins to create symlinks instead of hardlinks, remove bogus postinsts, and fix FILES in 1.38, backported from .dev Dec 05 04:04:45 hehe still building a gpe image for akita started on friday, i love fast systems Dec 05 04:06:59 I'll wait for sd card with building Dec 05 04:12:17 hi lardman Dec 05 04:13:35 hi hrw|work, morning all Dec 05 04:20:57 RP: which do you recommend -get3 or +2.6.25-rc2, its just that the build buffs on git3 due to oversizing, at least it did on saturday Dec 05 04:21:21 s/buffs/baffs Dec 05 04:21:27 ade|desk: -rc2 Dec 05 04:22:05 oops .15 not 25 , lol Dec 05 04:22:29 RP: cheers Dec 05 04:44:08 mickeyl: the results of the buildrun can be found in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ Dec 05 04:46:29 koen: branch build? Dec 05 04:46:34 yes Dec 05 04:48:06 I saw h6500, mda3, mda4 during weekend.. Dec 05 04:48:38 h6500 has linux support, but not published yet Dec 05 04:48:47 koen: #427 (h6300 kernel) can be closed now? Dec 05 04:49:08 yeah, that one is obsolete now Dec 05 04:49:19 I should push the latest kernel into the branch Dec 05 04:49:20 koen: cool, thanks Dec 05 04:51:45 hrw|work: the xda/mda hackers are looking at OE Dec 05 04:52:18 xanadux-ba-2.6 Dec 05 04:52:25 yep Dec 05 04:52:47 we should poke the xanadux people to work on angstrom Dec 05 04:54:18 any news on eabi front? Dec 05 04:55:21 toolchain and patches available, just not in OE Dec 05 04:56:10 csl one? Dec 05 04:59:01 yes Dec 05 04:59:10 I'm downloading it right now Dec 05 04:59:14 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/csl/ Dec 05 04:59:58 10.96K/s ETA 2:32:53 Dec 05 05:00:44 hi dirk Dec 05 05:00:52 hi richard Dec 05 05:03:59 hi dirk, I've fixed suspend/resume on tosa touch, It needs some cleaning up though. I've been a bit busy recently, so I'll try and send you something tomorrow. Dec 05 05:05:43 hi liam, cool. This sounds good. Dec 05 05:26:10 hi hrw|work Dec 05 05:26:42 ~seen hrw|work Dec 05 05:26:46 hrw|work is currently on #oe (5d 3h 12s) #openzaurus (5d 3h 12s) #opie (5d 3h 12s). Has said a total of 294 messages. Is idling for 30m 35s Dec 05 05:36:31 hi greentux Dec 05 05:38:52 hi RP Dec 05 05:39:11 hrw|work has lunch... ? Dec 05 05:41:46 hello lrg|home Dec 05 05:42:22 hi greentux Dec 05 05:43:36 lrg|home: and? borzoi up and running? Dec 05 05:44:37 greentux: yes thanks, I'm about to start the machine specific audio parts soon Dec 05 05:45:03 lrg|home: very nice... you faxed that paper? Dec 05 05:45:23 lrg|home: german bureaucrazy Dec 05 05:45:47 greentux: np, I can't fax until Wednesday as I'm working at home today and tomorrow. Dec 05 05:46:11 greentux: you should get it Wednesday am Dec 05 05:46:57 lrg|home: thanks! is there also a chance to get these micro input stuff working? (switching etc) Dec 05 05:48:11 greentux: do you mean headphone insertion ? Dec 05 05:49:06 lrg|home: yes, i think ist necessary for micro insertion? Dec 05 05:49:46 ah, microphone insertion. yes it is. I will also automatically enable mic bais. Dec 05 05:50:07 lrg|home: i dont know, is there a micro in the borzoi? Dec 05 05:50:52 not sure yet, I'll have to check with RP Dec 05 05:51:17 i did not found any docu, but i believe there must be a micro (front right edge) Dec 05 05:51:39 headphone insertion is good for stereo/mono switching? Dec 05 05:52:49 greentux: hp insertion will only switch the spk (mono) and hp (stereo) usersapce applications will still be able to play stereo when using spk Dec 05 05:55:53 lrg|home: ok, so i am right Dec 05 05:56:27 greentux: yes Dec 05 06:06:57 lrg|home: I don't think bozroi has a microphone built in Dec 05 06:08:15 hrw|work: cardfs images are just ext2 loop files? Dec 05 06:08:33 RP: thanks, i didn't think so. could only find a hole in the case for a spk. Dec 05 06:09:10 re Dec 05 06:09:20 greentux: it was meeting - lunch in a minute(s) Dec 05 06:09:47 koen: never checked - probably yes (if not just tarball to unpack) Dec 05 06:10:10 hrw|work: ok Dec 05 06:11:14 hrw|work: your sd card is here... Dec 05 06:12:49 greentux: so you now need my address and some extra action from my side? Dec 05 06:14:06 hrw|work: i have your adress... Dec 05 06:14:24 hrw|work: from the bluetooth card Dec 05 06:14:46 ah.. yep - checked logs. Dec 05 06:15:37 hrw|work: and i cant donate it fix to you, but can borrow/lend it for 3 years... :) that means only that you shouldnt sell ... Dec 05 06:16:11 ;) ok Dec 05 06:16:30 hrw|work: something in the collie image build requires usbutils, so that's why it shows up in the images Dec 05 06:17:12 koen: meta-opie.bb - I forgot to push fix to branch Dec 05 06:20:30 ok. I go lunch Dec 05 06:26:23 when compiling gmp I get the following error: autotools_stage_all: command not found Dec 05 06:26:39 is it a gmp bug or am I missing something? Dec 05 06:27:24 your autotools.bbclass is probably too old Dec 05 06:33:55 koen: I updated the tree today! Dec 05 06:34:24 it seems that it failed Dec 05 06:34:48 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.oz354fam083$ grep stage classes/autotools.bbclass Dec 05 06:34:52 autotools_stage_includes() { Dec 05 06:34:54 autotools_stage_all() { Dec 05 06:35:20 koen: I'm using the dev branch Dec 05 06:35:45 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ grep stage classes/autotools.bbclass Dec 05 06:35:48 autotools_stage_includes() { Dec 05 06:35:51 autotools_stage_all() { Dec 05 06:36:10 I get that too Dec 05 06:39:08 I don't know why I get the command not found Dec 05 06:57:28 ~lart me for booting a 2.6.15-rc2 kernel on 2.6.13 / Dec 05 06:57:29 * ibot chops xora in half with a free Solaris 7 CD for booting a 2.6.15-rc2 kernel on 2.6.13 / Dec 05 06:57:37 * france is back (gone 61:59:30) Dec 05 07:35:48 ~lart me for not learning On+On is not the same as On+Ok Dec 05 07:35:48 * ibot blasts xora to oblivion with a kamehameha wave for not learning On+On is not the same as On+Ok Dec 05 07:37:26 RP: there is a CMDLINE_ROOT in defconfig-c7x0 which seems to override the one supplied by the .bb file Dec 05 07:43:39 XorA: Which one ends up getting used? Dec 05 07:44:06 The one towards the end of the file used to but I guess Kconfig could have changed Dec 05 07:49:16 oops , kernel panic, cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) Dec 05 07:51:23 where is the cmdline set ? Dec 05 07:52:55 ade|desk: Sounds like the same problem Xora is seeing... Dec 05 07:53:31 ade|desk: I'll fix... Dec 05 07:54:48 amny thanks Dec 05 07:54:59 s/amny/many Dec 05 08:32:42 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7f800e69... 10/: familiar 0.8.3: slide cvsdate forward Dec 05 08:35:16 somebody uses a usb-keyboard on Z ? Dec 05 08:35:55 * hrw|lunch do not - lack of usbhost Dec 05 08:36:03 and usb keyboard too :) Dec 05 08:37:00 :( Dec 05 08:38:53 brb Dec 05 08:39:53 ~brb Dec 05 08:39:55 greentux: brb, too. Be Right Back Dec 05 08:40:38 greentux: I don't own one so I've not tried. The kernel side of things should be fine but I'm not sure about the xserver (presuming you mean under gpe)? Dec 05 08:41:33 re Dec 05 08:41:41 wb hrw|work Dec 05 08:42:03 last I checked usb keyboards worked fine Dec 05 08:42:06 finally have kde 3.5.0 (wth parts from 3.4.3 still) Dec 05 08:42:11 (ipaq h5550 + cfu1u) Dec 05 08:42:43 RP: the one in defconfig-c7x0 is used Dec 05 08:42:50 RP: it broke my / on MMC patch Dec 05 08:43:13 XorA: ade|desk is also seeing the issue - the kernel must have changed - will fix Dec 05 08:43:44 RP: cool, confused the hell out of me that I had 2.6.13 / and 2.6.15 kernel :-) Dec 05 08:52:05 RP: will check that keyboard next days. got it today Dec 05 08:54:56 XorA: Recently, I got really confused when my new kernel wouldn't boot. Turned out to be a spitz kernel flashed on a c7x0 :) Dec 05 08:55:22 RP: heh heh, didnt magically give you a HD or anything then Dec 05 08:55:48 sadly not:) Dec 05 08:57:16 well thats 2.6.15-rc2 on my c7x0 Dec 05 08:57:49 I'll update to -rc4 soon then ;-) Dec 05 08:58:00 or I believe rc5 is out now... Dec 05 08:58:07 RP: keeping us on our toes :-) Dec 05 09:06:21 hello Dec 05 09:06:54 does anybody know how to add pgup/down keys to the virtual keyboard ? Dec 05 09:08:47 cu Dec 05 09:10:24 anyone have a server they could mirror a 300MB VM image file (for building OE)? Dec 05 09:11:02 sure Dec 05 09:11:22 maybe pack it a bit? Dec 05 09:11:26 cu Dec 05 09:11:38 hrw|gone: bye Dec 05 09:11:48 ironstorm: pm me the url and I'll put it up Dec 05 09:11:55 hrw|gone: it's packed already... :( Dec 05 09:12:29 hi koen Dec 05 09:12:36 hey CSMan Dec 05 09:13:19 XorA, ade|desk: Changes pushed to ewi Dec 05 09:13:27 just wondering how can i add the classical ins/del/pgup/pgdown block in a gpe virtual keyboard Dec 05 09:19:57 RP: 2.6.15-rc2 doesnt seem to contain the patch to allow 921600 as a baud rate Dec 05 09:20:34 ~hail zecke Dec 05 09:20:36 * ibot bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 05 09:21:57 XorA: What's the name of that patch? Dec 05 09:22:12 RP: hrmm, .bb seems to have it in, serial-add-support-for-non-standard-xtals-to-16c950-driver.patch Dec 05 09:22:30 RP: but I can no longer use setserial on my BT card Dec 05 09:22:49 ironstorm: do you have an url for that vmware image? Dec 05 09:22:55 koen: how safe is to update from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/ Dec 05 09:23:05 as safe as you want it to be Dec 05 09:23:34 * koen hints at ipkg's '-t' switch Dec 05 09:23:41 * CSMan adds it to ipkg.conf Dec 05 09:23:45 RP: other oddness is that is has moved from /dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyS0 Dec 05 09:23:54 heh Dec 05 09:24:03 has RMK been breaking serial again? Dec 05 09:24:13 koen: yeah, I tried to pm you it... Dec 05 09:24:16 XorA: I suspect rmk has made changes to the serial layer which break our serial hacks Dec 05 09:24:32 I have to register my nick I think Dec 05 09:24:33 sec Dec 05 09:24:39 * XorA pokes RMK in eyeball Dec 05 09:25:12 I guess /dev/ttyS0 is actually the serial port on the Z? Dec 05 09:28:21 so pxa-serial-hack.patch no longer works is the guess? Dec 05 09:28:53 XorA: correct Dec 05 09:31:01 ironstorm: could you send an email to oe@handhelds.org about the vmware image and it's possibilities? Dec 05 09:33:03 koen: sure Dec 05 09:34:25 RP: what was the fix, cos i just remove the CMDLINE bit from the defconfig for cxx00 ? Dec 05 09:34:46 ade|desk: That's the fix you need Dec 05 09:34:55 ah ok Dec 05 09:35:03 I applied it to all models and merged a load of other queued stuff. You might like the led changes though Dec 05 09:35:22 (which I failed to mention in the changelog but did intend to merge) Dec 05 09:35:36 RP: i'll start the build tonight, it takes a while here Dec 05 09:35:53 or maybe wait for the rc5 ;) Dec 05 09:37:13 RP: what can we do to support 921600 this time? Dec 05 09:41:42 greentux: Look into what rmk did to the serial layer and work out a way around it :-/ Dec 05 09:41:51 or better still, fix the serial layer somehow Dec 05 09:42:04 RP: I am looking, most of the changes seem to be change device to platform_device Dec 05 09:42:20 XorA: They shouldn't make any different at all Dec 05 09:42:48 RP: trying to track down the bit that decides on /dev/blah but I am unfamiliar with the code Dec 05 09:42:49 It'll be something smaller and serial specific Dec 05 09:44:17 RP: its a pity, i had a hard fight with the BT card to get it working, and now it doesnt :( the rmk patch is necassery? Dec 05 09:44:20 ~rmk Dec 05 09:44:22 extra, extra, read all about it, rmk is Russell M. King, arm-linux maintainer, http://www.arm.linux.org.uk or ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/source/kernel-patches/v2.4/. THE developer of ARM Linux Dec 05 09:44:34 oh Dec 05 09:45:36 greentux: indeed - its changes out of our control and probably needed ones. We were using a hack which was called a hack for a lot of reasons... Dec 05 09:47:10 XorA: what says hciattach now? Dec 05 09:50:06 greentux: BCSP initialization timed out Dec 05 09:50:32 mmmh hope we are not the only guys with these BCSP chips... Dec 05 09:50:56 XorA: It could be a hunk of the pxa serial hack patch has gone missing... Dec 05 09:51:11 I know one didn't apply a while back and I thought it was no longer needed due to code changes Dec 05 09:52:25 is the serial hack arm specific or should i use it on i386? Dec 05 09:52:42 s/\?/too\? Dec 05 09:52:54 greentux: very arm pxa specific Dec 05 09:53:16 well, the serial hack is. The driver changes probably aren't Dec 05 09:53:23 RP: the missing hunk looks info only, its a printk Dec 05 09:53:49 XorA: Ah, ok. I knew there was something and thought it was safe to remove... Dec 05 09:54:49 ok, have to go. cu tomorrow Dec 05 09:54:49 wierd and bizarre Dec 05 09:55:06 my card is at /dev/ttyS3, but some printk somewhere says /dev/ttyS0 Dec 05 09:55:25 just got hciattach to run Dec 05 09:55:34 XorA: oh... Dec 05 09:56:44 XorA: the trick would be to automate the setserial & hciattach -s 921600 things on insertion. dont know if possible with pcmcia framework Dec 05 10:05:03 RP: to sum up, the serial port is on /dev/ttyS3 but is report as /dev/ttyS0 in the printk that ends up in dmesg, this was what was confusing me Dec 05 10:06:11 XorA: Ah - so there's a printk somewhere that needs tweaking :) Dec 05 10:06:36 XorA: It works other than that? Dec 05 10:06:45 RP: there are other problems with hciattach which were adding to the mud Dec 05 10:07:08 RP: a slight increase in out of order packet errors in the logs, this makes hciattach exit Dec 05 10:07:21 RP: but ive no idea what that error is caused by Dec 05 10:07:44 XorA: Ok, that doesn't sound like the serial hack at fault at least... Dec 05 10:07:55 I've never liked these hacks :-/ Dec 05 10:08:06 RP: it seems the serial part works fine, *phew* the other problem with hciattach just confused the issue Dec 05 10:08:24 as when I investigated I thought I had the wrong port Dec 05 10:10:04 RP: the dropped hunk had the bit port->line + drv->name_base which Ill bet adds the extra 3 Dec 05 10:12:17 XorA: Correct. My guess is that printk is now in the core so will be difficult to update Dec 05 10:27:49 oh well off home Dec 05 10:40:22 hey there Dec 05 10:40:38 i'm considering trying out OZ3.5.4-RC on my collie Dec 05 10:40:48 is the ramdisk problem a blocker? Dec 05 10:41:03 i can't find anything in bugs.openembedded.org about it Dec 05 10:41:09 ramdisk problem? Dec 05 10:41:11 it's off-topic here, but ... what is the ramdisk problem again? Dec 05 10:41:21 "System bugs: Dec 05 10:41:22 - ramdisk not mounted on collie - I.m working on it" Dec 05 10:41:30 from openzaurus.org Dec 05 10:41:31 hmm Dec 05 10:41:33 heh Dec 05 10:41:36 oh, o/t sorry Dec 05 10:41:47 yeah, it's more something for #openzaurus. Dec 05 10:42:00 ok, i'll try over there, tnx Dec 05 10:42:03 np. Dec 05 10:42:29 mickeyl: it's busy building opie images for c7x0, so everything after that should use those ipkgs Dec 05 10:42:30 * mickeyl patiently awaiting the sl6000 expansion sled Dec 05 10:42:33 ~lart fedex Dec 05 10:42:33 * ibot judo chops fedex Dec 05 10:42:46 *nod* Dec 05 10:48:10 hmm Dec 05 10:48:15 do we have sysrq on spitz? Dec 05 10:48:24 if so, which key combination? Dec 05 10:48:30 * mickeyl looks around Dec 05 10:55:44 Good evening Dec 05 10:56:06 ping mickeyl Dec 05 10:56:09 mickeyl: We have - same as c7x0 but jap1 instead of jap 2 Dec 05 10:56:18 Ctrl Alt are shifted Dec 05 10:56:27 due to the spitz keyboard difference Dec 05 10:56:41 hmm odd Dec 05 10:56:45 that doesn't work here Dec 05 10:57:28 hold jap1 press home, contrinue pressing home press s to sync? Dec 05 10:57:50 works here :-/ Dec 05 10:57:57 this is 2.6, right? Dec 05 10:58:55 urgs. ~shoot me. I was trying FN+jap1+home+ Dec 05 10:59:08 I imagine mickeyl is just wanting sysrq to see the leds light up Dec 05 10:59:44 mickeyl: My mail to mickey@handhelds.org is not send... Dec 05 10:59:53 SMTP error from remote server after RCPT command: Dec 05 10:59:53 host handhelds.org[128.31.0.25]: Dec 05 10:59:53 450 : Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table Dec 05 11:00:05 that's mickeyl, not mickey Dec 05 11:00:07 uv1: mickeyl@ Dec 05 11:00:17 aah, ... Dec 05 11:03:29 hmm Dec 05 11:03:38 mmc: unrecognised SCOR structure version 1 Dec 05 11:04:18 There's been an mmc patch on lkml in the last day or so which will hopefully fix the mmc errors Dec 05 11:04:18 iirc _law_ had that same problem Dec 05 11:04:32 k Dec 05 11:04:37 hmm: pcnet fails to load Dec 05 11:04:46 due to a lot of unresolved symbols Dec 05 11:05:04 hehe, no response on #openzaurus Dec 05 11:05:08 sure is quiet over there Dec 05 11:05:34 i guess i'll either wait for an update to the oz.org site, or just go for it and give it a try at some point (with my fingers crossed :-)) Dec 05 11:06:00 you're in luck: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OZ/ Dec 05 11:06:09 freshly built RC Dec 05 11:06:35 oooh :-D Dec 05 11:08:19 what are those images? 64-0? Dec 05 11:08:42 (forgive me if that's a stupid question) Dec 05 11:11:23 WOW Dec 05 11:11:29 ~praise RP for LEDs Dec 05 11:11:31 All hail RP for LEDs! Dec 05 11:11:35 now that's fun :) Dec 05 11:11:50 markt_: I suspect 24-0 Dec 05 11:11:57 ehm Dec 05 11:12:01 64-0 Dec 05 11:12:12 mickeyl: Worth the wait? :) Dec 05 11:12:26 RP: definitly! :) Dec 05 11:12:29 ok, thanks Dec 05 11:13:10 it looks like RMK hasn't thrown a fit on lkml about the patch Dec 05 11:13:11 RP: would it be hard to add new triggers like ram-access (i.e. for ramdisks), pcmcia, and network activity? Dec 05 11:13:45 its depends on the subsystem code but it should be easy if its possible Dec 05 11:13:55 See the nand and ide patches... Dec 05 11:14:02 its very obvious :) Dec 05 11:14:05 yeah, i will read these. Dec 05 11:14:05 koen: ok, i'll give that a whirl, and see what happens Dec 05 11:14:17 RP: how does timer work, i.e. where is the time for the timer set? Dec 05 11:14:45 mickeyl: set the trigger to timer and a frequency entry in sysfs will appear as if by magic Dec 05 11:15:00 aaah Dec 05 11:15:01 woot! Dec 05 11:15:31 Im being called away but back later. Pleased you like it :) Dec 05 11:15:35 now this is just cooool Dec 05 11:15:37 k, cu Dec 05 11:15:54 * france is away: Away Dec 05 11:15:57 * mickeyl continues having fun with LEDs Dec 05 11:16:06 Adding further triggers is easy - its all modular and should be easy to code Dec 05 11:16:11 * RP goes Dec 05 11:16:25 really great. I guess I will send some patches for additional triggers :)) Dec 05 11:18:05 * mickeyl thinks about a probate GUI interface for the LEDs Dec 05 11:18:20 a telepathy trigger would be nice Dec 05 11:18:25 heh Dec 05 11:18:42 * koen starts the timer Dec 05 11:18:55 how long will it take for someone to patch opie-mail to use the mail led? Dec 05 11:19:10 that depends on alwin Dec 05 11:19:10 does anybody know the keystroke for pageup/down? Dec 05 11:19:16 ~seen alwin Dec 05 11:19:24 mickeyl: i haven't seen 'alwin' Dec 05 11:19:28 ~seen ral Dec 05 11:19:34 ral was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 29d 22h 16m 47s ago, saying: 'Blessex: Appears that did it!'. Dec 05 11:19:51 * CSMan smells *not implemented* Dec 05 11:19:54 ~seen _alwin_ Dec 05 11:19:56 _alwin_ was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 6d 4h 57m 36s ago, saying: 'hi'. Dec 05 11:19:56 mail isn't PIM, so it shouldn't be in the images Dec 05 11:19:59 CSMan: guess you're right Dec 05 11:20:02 koen: :D Dec 05 11:20:10 /o\ Dec 05 11:20:40 ~lart *sword Dec 05 11:20:40 * ibot installs PocketPC on *sword's PDA Dec 05 11:20:42 CSMan: try changing the keymap, so that shift-up shift-down does something lke pageup/down Dec 05 11:21:52 .xmodmap ? Dec 05 11:22:03 hmm.. alt+u alt+d Dec 05 11:29:23 * markt_ boots Dec 05 11:30:34 looking good! Dec 05 11:32:26 koen: it appears to be 32-32 fwiw Dec 05 11:32:33 ah, ok Dec 05 11:32:44 it depends on what mickeyl made the default Dec 05 11:32:48 and it also appears to be ACE Dec 05 11:32:50 :-D Dec 05 11:33:18 ACE ? Dec 05 11:33:26 as in "very very good" :-) Dec 05 11:33:31 ah Dec 05 11:33:32 excellent Dec 05 11:33:37 sorry, not an acronym, just me being excited Dec 05 11:33:39 yeah, 32-32 is the default Dec 05 11:36:09 why not 64-0? Dec 05 11:36:22 well, that'll do me for now, i tend to go for 48-24 Dec 05 11:36:34 erm, no Dec 05 11:37:01 i tend to go for something that adds up to 64 but gives me some ramdisk :) Dec 05 11:37:07 koen: to make it usable for people without additional memory cards Dec 05 11:37:17 koen: i admit it's more or less for historical reasons though Dec 05 11:37:33 personally I'm used to 65-8 Dec 05 11:37:35 heh Dec 05 11:37:37 56-8 even Dec 05 11:37:40 :-) Dec 05 11:38:05 if people want 32mb ram they should buy a poodle ;) Dec 05 11:38:24 hehehe Dec 05 11:39:15 normally i go for 48-16 or 40-24, just so i've got some room for apps that i want present even when switching cards Dec 05 11:41:23 hmm, 404s from ipkg Dec 05 11:43:30 ah, the feed url has changed, right? Dec 05 11:47:45 mickeyl: is the vanille ciabot stuck? Dec 05 11:48:13 lemmecheck Dec 05 11:49:06 relaunched Dec 05 12:00:40 * markt_ is a very happy markt_ indeed Dec 05 12:00:51 great work guys :-D Dec 05 12:00:59