**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 06 02:59:57 2006
Jan 06 03:02:48 <hrw|work> morning
Jan 06 03:03:08 <do13_> good morning
Jan 06 03:04:10 <RP> morning Dirk, hrw|work 
Jan 06 03:04:42 <hrw|work> ~ugt
Jan 06 03:04:49 <ibot> i heard ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant.
Jan 06 03:04:56 <do13_> hi Richard, Marcin
Jan 06 03:07:24 <koen> good morning all
Jan 06 03:07:31 <RP> hi koen 
Jan 06 03:09:36 <alan|laptop> hey all
Jan 06 03:13:38 <hrw|work> libmimedir is fscked in .oz354fam083 branch
Jan 06 03:13:44 <hrw|work> oe_libinstall: cd mimedir
Jan 06 03:13:45 <hrw|work> oe_libinstall: install -d /home/hrw/devel/build/armv4l/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/
Jan 06 03:13:45 <hrw|work> FATAL: oe_libinstall: unable to locate shared library
Jan 06 03:15:26 <rwhitby> hey koen
Jan 06 03:15:34 <rwhitby> koen: can you reinstate the nslu2-linux syncing?
Jan 06 03:15:55 <koen> rwhitby: sure
Jan 06 03:15:59 <koen> hrw|work: NOTE: package libmimedir-0.3.1+cvs-20051212-r0: task do_build: completed
Jan 06 03:18:51 <hrw|work> koen: it's libmimedir-0.3.1+cvs-20051229-r0 here
Jan 06 03:19:33 <rwhitby> koen: rwhitby@nslu2-linux.org and dyoung@nslu2-linux.org can be added to the database migrated list
Jan 06 03:20:49 <koen> rwhitby: ok
Jan 06 03:21:38 <koen> rwhitby: keys activated and it's syncing right now  
Jan 06 03:21:38 <rwhitby> koen: thx
Jan 06 03:24:01 <hrw|work> sometimes I feel that xxx/yyy progress in bitbake slow down processing..
Jan 06 03:27:02 <wingel> hrw: I've checked that, I modified it to only print every tenth time and the difference wasn't measurable.
Jan 06 03:27:29 <wingel> of course, if the other parts of bitbake are speeded up it might become a bottleneck, but not yet.
Jan 06 03:28:48 <hrw|work> wingel: bitbake|tee disable it
Jan 06 03:29:04 <hrw|work> or any other non-interactive mode
Jan 06 03:33:43 <hrw|work> NOTE: package libmimedir-0.3.1+cvs-20051212: failed
Jan 06 03:35:51 <koen> rwhitby: the repos should in sync right now
Jan 06 03:36:24 <koen> s/in/be\ in/
Jan 06 03:38:12 <alan|laptop> when compiling monotone from sources, at what step should i precise -fno-omit-frame-pointer and -fno-strict-aliasing ? looks like it is not during the ./configure...
Jan 06 03:39:05 <XorA> alan|laptop: is there not a nice rpm for you?
Jan 06 03:39:19 <alan|laptop> XorA: yes, but it is outdates
Jan 06 03:39:31 <alan|laptop> outdated*
Jan 06 03:39:34 <rwhitby> koen: thx
Jan 06 03:40:21 <XorA> alan|laptop: Id try the srpm on the monotone site then, its normally easier
Jan 06 03:40:26 <alan|laptop> XorA: it cannont migrate the snapshot db...
Jan 06 03:40:28 <koen> rwhitby: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev
Jan 06 03:40:40 <alan|laptop> XorA: good idea. i didn't see it.
Jan 06 03:40:50 <koen> or the glibc 2.3 static version
Jan 06 03:41:13 <XorA> koen: thats what I use
Jan 06 03:41:28 <koen> I'm running it on ewi546 as well
Jan 06 03:41:45 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r941fc529... 10/packages/gd/gd_2.0.33.bb: gd: Added by eFfeM@openembedded.org
Jan 06 03:41:51 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r00a93411... 10/packages/pvrusb2-mci/pvrusb2-mci_20060101.bb: pvrusb2-mci: Added by eFfeM@openembedded.org
Jan 06 03:41:55 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r18e3e0e8... 10/packages/cdstatus/cdstatus_0.96.05.bb: cdstatus: Renamed by eFfeM@openembedded.org (missing underscore in filename)
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * raefcc2e1... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> unslung-kernel: Added cp437 back into the kernel instead of being a module,
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> Added flash-is-now-hdd patch, Removed the 1gblimit and ext3flash-on-disk1
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> patches to prepare for future handling of flash disks on Unslung 6.x (to
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> co-exist better with multiple NTFS drive support), Changed rc.unslung to
Jan 06 03:42:00 <CIA-4> rc.optware, Removed some of the Samba codepages to make space in the flash,
Jan 06 03:42:02 <CIA-4> Replaced stand-alone wget with busybox applet to save JFFS2 space, Updated
Jan 06 03:42:04 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf165fdda... 10/packages/linux/ (17 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Initial version - patches need to be cleaned up to coexist with other ixp4xx machines, updated patchsets to match 2.6.15, removed some patches, and combined some others.
Jan 06 03:42:09 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r1506a2cf... 10/packages/linux/ (15 files in 2 dirs): 
Jan 06 03:42:10 <CIA-4> nas100d-kernel: Corrected the location of the mac address in the RedBoot config
Jan 06 03:42:12 <CIA-4> partition, merged the two nas100d patches (sent upstream), updated patchsets to
Jan 06 03:42:14 <CIA-4> match 2.6.15, removed some patches, and combined some others.
Jan 06 03:42:16 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r16286fc8... 10/packages/cdstatus/cdstatus-0.96.05.bb: cdstatus: Renamed by eFfeM@openembedded.org (missing underscore in filename)
Jan 06 03:42:19 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r140f67f2... 10/packages/linux/ (19 files in 2 dirs): nas100d-kernel: Removed old kernel versions.
Jan 06 03:42:22 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re44ac577... 10/conf/distro/ (2 files): unslung-binary-kernel: Removed - we now have the source code to this kernel to be able to build it.
Jan 06 03:42:26 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rcc7afcd8... 10/packages/busybox/ (3 files in 2 dirs): slingbox: Update slingbox umount to support -f and add the Linksys custom -L (-lazy umount) option.
Jan 06 03:42:31 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r447b40bc... 10/packages/linux/ (12 files in 3 dirs): 
Jan 06 03:42:31 <CIA-4> nslu2-kernel: Added the scsi-idle patch, Enabled CONFIG_INPUT=y, cause Debian
Jan 06 03:42:32 <CIA-4> tools (especially yaird) assume that /proc/bus/input exists, Updated patchsets
Jan 06 03:42:34 <CIA-4> to match 2.6.15, removed some patches, and combined some others, Updated to
Jan 06 03:42:36 <CIA-4> class-based RTC driver from azummo, changed defconfig to remove the pwc module,
Jan 06 03:42:38 <CIA-4> memory-h-page-shift page revised due to feedback from RMK, Removed old kernel
Jan 06 03:42:40 <CIA-4> versions, Updated to 2.6.15 final.
Jan 06 03:42:44 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf8f27d18... 10/conf/distro/slugos-packages.conf: slugos-packages: Added cdstatus, gd, madplay, fetchmail. Demoted irssi due to autobuild failures. Demoted alsa-utils from ucslugc due to autobuild failures.
Jan 06 03:42:48 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rdd5083b3... 10/conf/distro/ (4 files): slugos-packages: Merged contents from ludeos-packages, openslug-packages, ucslugc-packages.
Jan 06 03:42:51 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r07ec7614... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Added cdstatus, gd, madplay, fetchmail. Demoted irssi due to autobuild failures. Demoted alsa-utils from ucslugc due to autobuild failures.
Jan 06 03:42:55 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r3bd654df... 10/conf/distro/ (debianslug-packages.conf debianslug.conf): debianslug: new distro for little-endian nslu2 kernel suitable for running debian
Jan 06 03:42:58 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r958d8ac0... 10/conf/distro/ludeos.conf: ludeos: Changed to little-endian, based on slugos-lag.
Jan 06 03:43:01 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4d9858d4... 10/conf/distro/openslug.conf: openslug: updated to version 3.1, based on slugos-bag feeds.
Jan 06 03:43:04 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r157ea7f8... 10/conf/distro/slugos.conf: slugos: updated to nslu2-kernel 2.6.15 final.
Jan 06 03:43:07 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rc3d0b298... 10/ (24 files in 7 dirs): 
Jan 06 03:43:09 <CIA-4> unslung: Usability updates for Unslung 6.x - ipkg prints message when booted on
Jan 06 03:43:11 <CIA-4> flash, motd prints at login indicating status of on-disk or on-flash, status
Jan 06 03:43:13 <CIA-4> appears on home page in web interface, unsling now asks for root password, and
Jan 06 03:43:15 <CIA-4> some additional checks are made by unsling to avoid known problems that can
Jan 06 03:43:17 <CIA-4> prevent a successful unsling, added new unslung logo.
Jan 06 03:43:27 <rwhitby> that should be all of them
Jan 06 03:44:05 <koen> rwhitby: could you send a note to oe@ about the successfull dequarantaining?
Jan 06 03:44:25 * XorA feels a BOFH from hell monent as he prepares to roll out squidGuard
Jan 06 03:44:50 <koen> a BOFHFH
Jan 06 03:45:44 <XorA> wtf was I typing there?
Jan 06 03:46:02 <XorA> I need more tea obviously
Jan 06 03:47:18 <rwhitby> koen: done
Jan 06 03:47:39 <koen> rwhitby: thanks
Jan 06 03:48:57 <hrw|work> ~lart libmimedir
Jan 06 03:48:58 * ibot --purges libmimedir
Jan 06 04:10:01 * XorA feels evilness increase as ebay.com is banned
Jan 06 04:57:41 <ade|desk> morning all
Jan 06 05:01:03 <koen> hey ade|desk 
Jan 06 05:12:40 <CIA-4> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r15f076b9... 10/packages/linux/ (12 files in 4 dirs): 
Jan 06 05:12:40 <CIA-4> nslu2-kernel (and friends): Added the jffs2-endian-config patch to allow the
Jan 06 05:12:40 <CIA-4> JFFS2 endianness to be selected in .config for little-endian kernels with
Jan 06 05:12:40 <CIA-4> big-endian filesystems. Replaces the jffs2-force-be patch which could not be
Jan 06 05:12:40 <CIA-4> pushed upsteam. The MTD maintainer has agreed to consider the new patch.
Jan 06 05:35:31 <lkcl> handhelds.org is down - anyone able to do something about it?
Jan 06 05:36:06 <hrw|work> lkcl: www.handhelds.org works
Jan 06 05:36:42 <hrw|work> shell too
Jan 06 05:37:04 <NAbyss> lkcl: WORKSFORME
Jan 06 05:38:05 <lkcl> huh?  odd...
Jan 06 05:38:35 <lkcl> let's try via hands.com instead...
Jan 06 05:38:42 <NAbyss> lkcl: DNS borked?
Jan 06 05:40:27 <lkcl> you're right - how _utterly_ weird.  ping and all connectivity via my network: absolutely none.  ssh to hands.com and check from there: absolutely fine.
Jan 06 05:40:43 <lkcl> lkcl@free:~$ ping cvs.handhelds.org
Jan 06 05:40:43 <lkcl> PING handhelds.org (128.31.0.25) 56(84) bytes of data.
Jan 06 05:40:43 <lkcl> 64 bytes from h7.handhelds.org (128.31.0.25): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=73.6 ms
Jan 06 05:40:43 <lkcl> 64 bytes from h7.handhelds.org (128.31.0.25): icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=72.1 ms
Jan 06 05:40:43 <lkcl> 64 bytes from h7.handhelds.org (128.31.0.25): icmp_seq=3 ttl=52 time=72.3 ms
Jan 06 05:40:54 <lkcl> lkcl@highfield:/usr/local/src/xanadux$ ping !$
Jan 06 05:40:55 <lkcl> ping cvs.handhelds.org
Jan 06 05:40:55 <lkcl> PING handhelds.org (128.31.0.25): 56 data bytes
Jan 06 05:40:55 <lkcl> --- handhelds.org ping statistics ---
Jan 06 05:40:56 <lkcl> 70 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
Jan 06 05:41:00 <lkcl> ????????
Jan 06 05:41:25 <NAbyss> Uh, something's borked there..
Jan 06 06:13:59 <krokas> hi
Jan 06 06:14:07 <krokas> Anyone knows what this means?
Jan 06 06:14:10 <krokas>  monotone --db=/oe/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev
Jan 06 06:14:10 <krokas> monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match: wanted e372b508bea9b991816d1c74680f7ae10d2a6d94, got 3a1e88c29c74b0dd910a092f3dccd39885da15cc. try migrating database
Jan 06 06:14:21 <krokas> I'm on Debian Sarge
Jan 06 06:14:29 <krokas> And what to do?
Jan 06 06:14:46 <krokas> I have downloaded a new version of the OE.db
Jan 06 06:15:07 <NAbyss> do a pull?
Jan 06 06:18:01 <XorA> krokas: you have monotone 0.23?
Jan 06 06:18:24 <krokas> http://pastebin.com/493241
Jan 06 06:18:58 <krokas> monotone 0.19 (base revision: 168adf9537ff136c9b7fe7faad5991f92859390d)
Jan 06 06:19:10 <XorA> krokas: I beleive you need 0.24 for the snapshots now
Jan 06 06:19:26 <krokas> ok
Jan 06 06:19:43 <XorA> the db format changed, but the netsync protocol didnt
Jan 06 06:20:44 <krokas> ok, thanks I will try to install the 0.24
Jan 06 06:22:02 * france is back (gone 11:54:01)
Jan 06 06:30:17 <Daniel_DP> hi all!
Jan 06 06:31:31 <Daniel_DP> i try to bitbake packages on oe an have it installed and updated as mentioned on http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted
Jan 06 06:31:42 <Daniel_DP> no errors
Jan 06 06:32:04 <Daniel_DP> but if i bitbake i get this:
Jan 06 06:32:33 <Daniel_DP> bitbake nano
Jan 06 06:32:33 <Daniel_DP> NOTE: Using cache in '/home/DP/dev/oe/build/tmp/cache'
Jan 06 06:32:33 <Daniel_DP> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: / (0132/2949) [ 4 %]NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'time' is not defined while evaluating:
Jan 06 06:32:33 <Daniel_DP> ${@time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d',time.gmtime())}
Jan 06 06:32:33 <Daniel_DP> NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'time' is not defined while evaluating:
Jan 06 06:32:36 <Daniel_DP> http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/git-snapshots/git/git-${PKGDATE}.tar.gz            file://Makefile.patch;patch=1
Jan 06 06:32:39 <Daniel_DP> ERROR: name 'time' is not defined while parsing /home/DP/dev/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/git/git.bb
Jan 06 06:32:41 <Daniel_DP> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (0133/2949) [ 4 %]NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'time' is not defined while evaluating:
Jan 06 06:32:44 <Daniel_DP> ${@time.strftime('%Y-%m-%d',time.gmtime())}
Jan 06 06:32:46 <Daniel_DP> NOTE: exceptions.NameError:name 'time' is not defined while evaluating:
Jan 06 06:32:48 <Daniel_DP> http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/projects/git-snapshots/git/git-${PKGDATE}.tar.gz            file://Makefile.patch;patch=1
Jan 06 06:32:51 <Daniel_DP> ERROR: name 'time' is not defined while parsing /home/DP/dev/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/git/git-native.bb
Jan 06 06:32:53 <Daniel_DP> ...
Jan 06 06:32:55 <Daniel_DP> any suggestions?
Jan 06 06:37:18 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: first - use pastebin
Jan 06 06:37:21 <hrw|work> ~pastebin
Jan 06 06:37:24 <ibot> from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca
Jan 06 06:37:34 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: second - show bitbake version. your is probably too old
Jan 06 06:41:00 <Daniel_DP> $ bitbake --version
Jan 06 06:41:00 <Daniel_DP> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.2.1, bitbake version 1.2
Jan 06 06:41:43 <Daniel_DP> sorry for the flooding. didn't know pastebin.
Jan 06 06:41:57 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: you need bitbake from svn repo - 1.3.x
Jan 06 06:42:12 <hrw|work> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.2.1, bitbake version 1.3.2
Jan 06 06:42:26 <Daniel_DP> thnaks! i will try it.
Jan 06 06:42:27 <koen> http://handhelds.org/~zecke/downloads/bitbake/bitbake-1.3.2.tar.gz
Jan 06 06:46:47 <RP> Has anyone dared try my bitbake patch? :)
Jan 06 06:48:29 <Daniel_DP> koen + hrw|work: thanks! seems to do the job.
Jan 06 06:48:31 <hrw|work> no time RP 
Jan 06 06:49:45 <XorA> RP: for some reason I can imagine you making bitbake a kernel module :-)
Jan 06 06:50:24 <RP> XorA: I did feel like adding Kconfig files to a project I started recently :)
Jan 06 06:51:06 <RP> I need to find a python+regexp guru to add the tiny bit of code needed to complete that patch...
Jan 06 06:51:20 <RP> or learn how to do it myself of course :)
Jan 06 06:51:48 <XorA> erp, painful python brain pollution
Jan 06 06:53:28 <RP> I don't get on woth python. Stupid indentation for a start...
Jan 06 06:53:44 <RP> and I keep ending lines in ; rather than : :)
Jan 06 06:54:55 <koen> I have the reverse going from matlab/maple to php
Jan 06 06:55:06 <koen> and I hate that &#*$(# indentation too
Jan 06 06:55:49 <hrw|work> I can live with indentation but not with time needed to understand that language
Jan 06 06:56:38 <koen> python forces me to indent *less* that I'm used to
Jan 06 06:57:33 <RP> I usually use tab indenting which means python goes mental when I forget to use spaces...
Jan 06 07:14:55 <Daniel_DP> does anyone know what m4-native is? i get the following error: ERROR: Nothing provides m4-native
Jan 06 07:15:13 <NAbyss> m4's the scripting language for autoconf, IIRC..
Jan 06 07:15:38 <alan__> guys, does monotone 0.25 connects to OE braches  ?
Jan 06 07:15:59 <alan__> connect* branches*
Jan 06 07:19:55 <hrw|work> alan__: 0.25 yes
Jan 06 07:20:17 <alan__> haaa... cool. thanks hrw|work 
Jan 06 07:21:34 <kami22> hi i am trying to compile mysql-5.0.18 for my openslug on my cross development sytem and i always get this message :
Jan 06 07:23:32 <kami22> checking "return type of sprintf"... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling
Jan 06 07:23:32 <kami22> See `config.log' for more details.
Jan 06 07:23:33 <kami22> FATAL: oe_runconf failed
Jan 06 07:24:17 <hrw|work> kami22: lack of config test in site/ file
Jan 06 07:26:36 <kami22> mhh sorry i am not so good in this stuff can you give a short explanation what i have to dp?
Jan 06 07:26:41 <kami22> dp=do
Jan 06 07:27:12 <hrw|work> look into oe/site/YOUR_ARCH file
Jan 06 07:27:26 <hrw|work> I cannot give more details as I never had a problem with it..
Jan 06 07:30:10 <kami22> okay there files like i686 ..
Jan 06 07:30:32 <kami22> do i have to look for my cross development system or my slug system?
Jan 06 07:32:07 <hrw|work> your target
Jan 06 07:34:01 <RP> hi mickeyl 
Jan 06 07:34:30 <hrw|work> hi mickeyl 
Jan 06 07:34:35 <mickeyl> hi guys!
Jan 06 07:35:53 <koen> hey mickeyl 
Jan 06 07:35:56 <kami22> okay i looked in armeb-linux and found there this : db_cv_sprintf_count=${db_cv_sprintf_count=yes}
Jan 06 07:37:23 <do13_> hi mickeyl
Jan 06 07:39:07 <hrw|work> RP: pcmcia-ids are in -git2
Jan 06 07:39:42 <RP> hrw|work: A few other things sound be as well :)
Jan 06 07:39:55 <RP> or are on their way anyway...
Jan 06 07:40:22 <hrw|work> reading changelog I will leave for -rc1
Jan 06 07:40:31 <RP> :)
Jan 06 07:40:42 <RP> rmk took a few of my patches...
Jan 06 07:41:09 <RP> well, he took all the ones I presented which must be a first. I must be getting better at this :)
Jan 06 07:53:08 <Daniel_DP> hi there! I have build m4-native but if i bitbake gpe-image i still get the ERROR: Nothing provides m4-native. can anyone guide me?
Jan 06 07:55:24 <RP> mickey|rebootWMF: If you're around for a short while, I could use some help from a python expert ;-)
Jan 06 07:55:40 <RP> Daniel_DP: Did it try to build m4-native and fail?
Jan 06 07:57:26 <Daniel_DP> RP: no. i bitbake -b phat/m4-native-xx.bb and it rund ok. then i bitbake gpe-image and get the error
Jan 06 07:58:00 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: do you know what '-b' param is?
Jan 06 07:58:15 <RP> Daniel_DP: That doesn't answer the question. What exactly are you running when you see the above error?
Jan 06 07:58:18 <dan2003> hello, does anybody know if picprog can be used on a PXA255 device? ie can the ports pins be manipulated?
Jan 06 07:58:54 <RP> dan2003: If you mean does the PXA255 have GPIOs the answer would be yes
Jan 06 07:59:21 <dan2003> well, no that snot wot i meant. but i supise i could adpat picprog to ue these
Jan 06 07:59:38 <Daniel_DP> RP: i run bitbake gpe-image.
Jan 06 07:59:39 <dan2003> i am refering to the serial (RS232) port
Jan 06 08:00:01 <dan2003> picprg manged to switch th epin hi and low some how, wohout sending stadar serial adata
Jan 06 08:00:07 <RP> dan2003: The rs232 pins can also be GPIOs
Jan 06 08:00:15 <Daniel_DP> hrw|work: no. someone on #gpe told me to do so.
Jan 06 08:01:13 <RP> Daniel_DP: Lets go back to the original problem. What were you running? bitbake gpe-image?
Jan 06 08:01:17 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: -b param do not trace dependencies - better avoid if dont know when to use it
Jan 06 08:02:28 <Daniel_DP> RP:yes. i also tryed to bitbake some other packages and get the same error.
Jan 06 08:02:56 <dan2003> RP: this is a special feture of the pxa255 thi is it not? ie muliplexed functions on each pin?
Jan 06 08:03:08 <dan2003> not the same method picporg uses on x86 hardware
Jan 06 08:03:18 <RP> Daniel_DP: When you run bitbake gpe-image what messages does it show (before the error). Don't flood the channel - use pastebin
Jan 06 08:04:05 <RP> dan2003: its a feature lots of processors have. x86 techniques won't work on arm
Jan 06 08:04:28 <dan2003> k, thats wot i thought
Jan 06 08:04:31 <XorA> dan2003: I dont know the exact program you are using, but the pic programs Ive used on x86 take advantage of special commands to the 16550 UARTS to control the pins individually
Jan 06 08:04:40 <RP> but would be perfectly possible to program pics with and arm processor via the rs232 pins
Jan 06 08:05:47 <dan2003> k, thanks.. i thought so, i was just wondering if i could save soe time by using tpicprog.. but i think ill have to modify it or start from scratch.. unless somewone has already made a pic programmer for arm devices
Jan 06 08:06:19 <RP> dan2003: I'd expect it to have been done before so try google but I've no experience with that
Jan 06 08:06:48 <dan2003> k, thanks
Jan 06 08:06:54 <XorA> Id bet there were numerous pic programmers for RiscPC seeing their heavy use in schools
Jan 06 08:07:29 <Daniel_DP> RP: http://pastebin.com/493400
Jan 06 08:10:52 <hrw|work> Daniel_DP: wl500g is router/AP?
Jan 06 08:12:54 <Daniel_DP> hrw|work: i have an AU1100 (mipsel) board and this config seems to fit
Jan 06 08:13:26 <RP> Daniel_DP: What are all those error parsing lines at the top of the post?
Jan 06 08:14:33 <Daniel_DP> RP: dont know. thought it's ok because error 0 means no error, doesnt it?
Jan 06 08:15:08 <RP> Daniel_DP: It shouldn't do that. It m4-native is one of those packages, you can bet that's why bitbake can't build it
Jan 06 08:15:36 <RP> I have no idea why its printing the 0 but and ERROR is and ERROR
Jan 06 08:15:43 <RP> s/and/an/
Jan 06 08:16:10 <RP> mickeyl: wb
Jan 06 08:16:26 * france is away: Away
Jan 06 08:16:39 <mickeyl> thx
Jan 06 08:17:18 <RP> mickeyl: Did you see my question? - if you're busy it can wait
Jan 06 08:17:44 * mickeyl scrolling up
Jan 06 08:18:03 <mickeyl> python problems? here i am :)
Jan 06 08:18:27 <RP> mickeyl: I'll post the problem via private message...
Jan 06 08:18:30 <mickeyl> k
Jan 06 08:19:38 <Daniel_DP> RP: maybe it is an parsing error, but what does it mean and how can i get ridd off it?
Jan 06 08:20:14 <RP> Daniel_DP: This is a good question and I don't know. Is m4-native listed as having an ERROR?
Jan 06 08:20:49 <koen> rm ${TMPDIR}/cache -rf
Jan 06 08:21:17 <hrw|work> touch conf/local.conf is faster
Jan 06 08:21:25 <Daniel_DP> RP: the screen is full of this messages. 
Jan 06 08:21:45 <koen> hrw|work: no, you have to rm the cache directory
Jan 06 08:22:01 <RP> Daniel_DP: rm the cache is good advice
Jan 06 08:22:22 <koen> hrw|work: I lost 2 hours last weeks trying to figure that out
Jan 06 08:22:28 <hrw|work> koen: bitbake is expected to recreate tmp/cache/ content. but if it read all from there not only needed ones...
Jan 06 08:22:54 <lrg> mickeyl: is there any chance I could borrow the project tosa to complete the audio and touchscreen ?
Jan 06 08:24:00 <mickeyl> lrg: absolutely! that's exactly for what we have it
Jan 06 08:24:36 <lrg> mickeyl: cool. where should I send my delivery address ?
Jan 06 08:25:05 <Daniel_DP> koen: so easy! now there are no messages containig errors.
Jan 06 08:25:16 <Daniel_DP> RP: thanks!
Jan 06 08:25:17 <hrw|work> lrg: to zecke iirc
Jan 06 08:25:18 <mickeyl> lrg: send your address to zecke@handhelds.org
Jan 06 08:25:34 <lrg> mickeyl, hrw|work: thanks, will do
Jan 06 08:32:14 <Daniel_DP> RP: now i get some other error messages. -  http://pastebin.com/493459 - any hints? 
Jan 06 08:33:11 <koen> Daniel_DP: 'bitbake m4-native'
Jan 06 08:33:25 <koen> without -b bitbake takes names, not file-names
Jan 06 08:35:05 <koen> no idea on the other error
Jan 06 08:37:22 <RP> It looks like a typo in one of the files...
Jan 06 08:37:38 <RP> and that bitbake command is totally bogus - go back to using bitbake gpe-image
Jan 06 08:47:58 <dan2003> i've had this issue for ages now, and cant find a cure.. http://pastebin.com/493494 can anybody tell me wots up, i cant belive it a comon problem as nobody else seem to be familar with it, but im not doing anythign different form what i have done in the paste to build the system.
Jan 06 08:48:34 <dan2003> i have recenlty updated bitbake and have montone 0.24
Jan 06 08:48:57 <dan2003> last update to org.openembedded.dev was a few days ago
Jan 06 08:50:05 <RP> dan2003: You're using uclib with gcc4 which isn't a combination many people use
Jan 06 08:52:18 <dan2003> oh really! how have i maged that?  just becuase i specified uclibc and gcc 4 is now the default ?
Jan 06 08:53:05 <dan2003> uclibc not used gnerally then on zaurus / simpad etc?
Jan 06 08:53:12 <mickeyl> you should always have a look at openzaurus.conf and familiar.conf where we pin down the most useful combinations of glibc/gcc etc.
Jan 06 08:53:15 <mickeyl> no, unfortunately not
Jan 06 08:53:38 <mickeyl> it's mostly a matter of time to look into it. I would really love to ship uclibc images as alternative
Jan 06 08:54:06 <dan2003> k, would seem to make most sense.. anyway.. ill try build a non uclibc version!
Jan 06 09:02:10 <XorA> lrg: RP whats Playback De-emphasis, sounds like a low pass filter
Jan 06 09:03:14 <RP> dan2003: gcc 3.4.4 and glibc are the recommended versions that actually work
Jan 06 09:03:52 <mickeyl> actually i still recommend 3.4.3. 3.4.4 is doing strange things to symbol sizes to me
Jan 06 09:05:11 <hrw|work> on my c760 whole distro is gcc 3.4.4 based
Jan 06 09:05:30 <dan2003> oh really, how do i get the system to use 3.4.x reathe rthan 4.0.2 ? 
Jan 06 09:05:41 <mickeyl> dan2003: take a peek into *.conf files
Jan 06 09:05:43 <lrg> XorA: it's to make audio recored on tape sound better and is not used much these days.
Jan 06 09:05:47 <mickeyl> grep PREFERRED_VERSION *.conf
Jan 06 09:06:03 <dan2003> k
Jan 06 09:06:31 <hrw|work> someone know small qt based alsa mixer? or atleast small UI alsa mixer?
Jan 06 09:06:36 <dan2003> thast the distro conf file i asusme?
Jan 06 09:06:45 <mickeyl> dan2003: yep
Jan 06 09:07:01 <mickeyl> emphasis is a thing of the past. my DAT recorder still handles it
Jan 06 09:07:08 <XorA> lrg: a wierd thing to have in a PDA mixer :-)
Jan 06 09:07:34 <lrg> hrw|work: I'll be working on reducing the amount of mixer controls soon. 
Jan 06 09:08:03 <lrg> XorA: yes, iirc it's still used in a lot of codecs from different vendors
Jan 06 09:17:58 <RP> mickeyl: funnily enough I also still use 3.4.3 as I never felt comfortable with 3.4.4 - it seems to work ok in images though...
Jan 06 09:18:30 <XorA> RP: Im on 3.4.4 and not found problems
Jan 06 09:21:41 * lrg laughs at funny reply from rmk on lakml
Jan 06 09:23:32 <hrw|work> digest one?
Jan 06 09:23:51 <lrg> hrw|work: yes :)
Jan 06 09:25:02 <ade|desk> lrg: URL ?
Jan 06 09:25:38 <lrg> ade|desk: I don't know, I'm a subscriber
Jan 06 09:25:41 <hrw|work> http://lists.arm.linux.org.uk/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2006-January/033128.html
Jan 06 09:30:56 <do13> lrg: How can I get wm97xx *wm from an external module?
Jan 06 09:31:44 <ade|desk> cheers hrw|work
Jan 06 09:32:35 <do13> lrg: your old driver had a plugin architecture, so it was easy to register a plugin and call wm97xx_read_aux_adc
Jan 06 09:33:08 <lrg> do13: sorry, that looks like something I've removed to trim things down a bit. I'll add it back in for reading the aux adc.
Jan 06 09:33:47 <do13> lrg: Ok :)
Jan 06 09:33:58 <lrg> do13: I was trying to minimise the size for your kerenl image problem.
Jan 06 09:35:32 <do13> lrg: Now I have a kernel with build in driver and 20K left:)
Jan 06 09:35:56 <lrg> do13: btw, I've asked for the project tosa, so hopefully things will move faster on audio and touch :)
Jan 06 09:36:18 <do13> lrg: great :)
Jan 06 09:36:20 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: why not just use OSS emulation?
Jan 06 09:37:23 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: because alsa give me more control on Z
Jan 06 09:38:09 <Luke-Jr> hm
Jan 06 09:38:15 <emte> hmm
Jan 06 09:38:28 <emte> woinder if koen is awake ...
Jan 06 09:38:29 <Luke-Jr> I thought the OSS emulation for mixers was 1:1?
Jan 06 09:39:08 <Mardy> hi all
Jan 06 09:39:12 <emte> anyone know about the x-blurry issue on the ipag 3600's ?
Jan 06 09:39:21 <emte> ipaq*
Jan 06 09:39:28 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: oss does not have switches
Jan 06 09:39:35 <hrw|work> hi Mardy 
Jan 06 09:39:38 <emte> are we changing xserver versions ?
Jan 06 09:39:59 * emte likes oss better than alsa
Jan 06 09:40:16 <emte> then again thats for highend audio cards in PC
Jan 06 09:40:19 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: Aren't they emulated by a volume that only goes 0 or 100?
Jan 06 09:41:04 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: hmm.. I have to look if I have some oss mixers here..
Jan 06 09:41:25 <emte> alsa expects the chipset to use steps of 10dB
Jan 06 09:41:33 <lrg> Luke-Jr: unfortunately the oss designers didn't have portable devices in mind when they designed the oss mixers :(
Jan 06 09:41:39 <emte> if it uses something else you will have issues
Jan 06 09:41:56 <Luke-Jr> http://pastebin.ca/36001
Jan 06 09:42:26 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: you use gcc-cross 4.0.2?
Jan 06 09:42:35 <lrg> Luke-Jr: alsa now gives the flexability for additional controls that don't easily fit into the oss model
Jan 06 09:42:37 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: 4.0.3, the default
Jan 06 09:42:39 <hrw|work> RP: you told that you will fix it....
Jan 06 09:42:55 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: patch was simple iirc..
Jan 06 09:43:00 <Luke-Jr> no, it's 4.0.2, actually
Jan 06 09:43:09 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: ?
Jan 06 09:44:25 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: that error is gcc4 related. RP use gcc 3.4 - I had that problem like you once. patched by hand (was simple)
Jan 06 09:44:34 <Luke-Jr> extern struct battery_thresh spitz_battery_levels_acin[];
Jan 06 09:44:35 <hrw|work> few files lack includes
Jan 06 09:44:36 <Luke-Jr> extern struct battery_thresh spitz_battery_levels_noac[];
Jan 06 09:44:41 <Luke-Jr> ah
Jan 06 09:46:02 * emte files bug on xserver issue since i cant fince a reference
Jan 06 09:46:09 <emte> find*
Jan 06 09:46:36 <RP> hrw|work: I forgot about that :-(
Jan 06 09:46:41 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: can't seem to find anything obvious
Jan 06 09:47:20 <Luke-Jr> RP: why not use default compiler? ;p
Jan 06 09:47:50 <RP> Luke-Jr: gcc 4 isn't the default compiler for oz
Jan 06 09:47:58 <Luke-Jr> seems to be here
Jan 06 09:48:16 <RP> it can't be as half the image wouldn't compile under gcc 4
Jan 06 09:48:34 <RP> bitbake default != oz default
Jan 06 09:48:47 <Luke-Jr> well, I'm using an OZ config
Jan 06 09:49:03 <Luke-Jr> DISTRO = "openzaurus"
Jan 06 09:49:16 <RP> NOTE: package bootstrap-image-1.0: completed - with revision two of the bitbake patch :)
Jan 06 09:49:16 <koen> doesn't that one give a huge warning?
Jan 06 09:49:19 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: DISTRO="openzaurus-unstable"
Jan 06 09:49:19 <Luke-Jr> so what PREFERRED_VERSION should I set?
Jan 06 09:49:28 <Luke-Jr> koen: no?
Jan 06 09:49:36 <mickeyl> RP: Congrats!
Jan 06 09:49:36 <Luke-Jr> hrw|work: isn't that 3.5.4?
Jan 06 09:49:47 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: not in .dev
Jan 06 09:50:22 <Luke-Jr> so what PREFERRED_VERSION should I set for OZ?
Jan 06 09:50:27 <RP> mickeyl: Only two changes to the metadata were needed as well so not too painful at all (admittedly I only demoved the depends from task-bootstrap so as we go further, we might see more of them)
Jan 06 09:50:37 <mickeyl> RP: pretty cool
Jan 06 09:51:25 <hrw|work> Luke-Jr: DISTRO="openzaurus-unstable" is enough
Jan 06 10:04:11 * emte wonders what chnaged in the xserver ...
Jan 06 10:06:50 <emte> aha
Jan 06 10:07:17 <emte> koen, your bug fix for "Xserver dpi on H3600 H3700 and H3900" is not propigated into the new images
Jan 06 10:11:52 <hrw|work> past time from 'tow' is tow or towwed?
Jan 06 10:13:02 <ade|desk> not toad ?
Jan 06 10:13:07 <ade|desk> tee hee
Jan 06 10:13:56 <RP> hrw|work: towed 
Jan 06 10:14:19 <hrw|work> thx
Jan 06 10:14:38 <hrw|work> I'm writing 2005 timeline summary
Jan 06 10:14:50 <emte> can someone explain how  Bug 449 was "fixed" upstream?
Jan 06 10:15:21 <emte> since i am getting the same problem from an image compiled jan2
Jan 06 10:18:28 <emte> root
Jan 06 10:21:06 <hrw|work> cu
Jan 06 10:39:01 <alan__> hey guys. I retrieved the OE database from shapshot, but now i am trying to update it, but my connection is refused by vanille.de.
Jan 06 10:39:35 <reenoo_> evening
Jan 06 10:39:39 <RP> hi reenoo_ 
Jan 06 10:39:40 <alan__> i followed the getting started document, and this is on a complete new monotone/bitbake installation.
Jan 06 10:39:41 <tux_mike> kergoth: ping
Jan 06 10:40:05 <RP> alan__: Try one of the other servers - ewi for example
Jan 06 10:40:16 <kergoth> tux_mike: pong
Jan 06 10:40:32 <alan__> RP: ok. I was wondering if generating a key was necessary...
Jan 06 10:40:45 <RP> alan__: Not for just pull access
Jan 06 10:41:01 <reenoo_> hey RP
Jan 06 10:41:01 <RP> I think anyway...
Jan 06 10:41:04 <alan__> pull access means adding files, right ?
Jan 06 10:41:57 <RP> alan__: No, pull just means taking updates from the servers (read only access), not pushing (sending updates back)
Jan 06 10:42:08 <reenoo_> kergoth: hi! have you had a chance to have a look at RP's DEPENDS/RDEPENDS patch? I'd be interested to hear what you think about it.
Jan 06 10:42:24 <kergoth> not yet, just read the email but havent looked at the patch
Jan 06 10:42:36 <RP> Version 2 is out now so look at that 
Jan 06 10:42:40 <kergoth> should get to it today some time, somewhat busy getting shit in order for my move.  got a job out in arizona
Jan 06 10:42:45 <tux_mike> kergoth: so, you play WoW?
Jan 06 10:43:05 <kergoth> yup
Jan 06 10:43:21 <kergoth> hack around a bit with ui addon development as well
Jan 06 10:43:27 <alan__> RP: haaa. As i just want to update my oe.db, i guess i need one. (or once more am i of an infinite stupidity ?)
Jan 06 10:44:11 <tux_mike> heh, cool, i do too.  bumped into your page when i was doing some google searches.  what server do you play on?
Jan 06 10:45:15 <RP> kergoth: If you do get a chance to give this patch a glance over, it would be appreciated. If acceptable, it means we can start fixing the metadata rather than continuing to break it...
Jan 06 10:45:58 <kergoth> tux_mike: ##ace on this server is for ui development using Ace, and #wowi-lounge is more for general stuff, its the wowinterface.com channel.  some of the forum regulars drop by, and even slouken (blizzard dev) drops by there on occasion
Jan 06 10:46:00 <kergoth> RP: will do
Jan 06 10:46:22 <kergoth> tux_mike: my main is on suramar, though i've recently started a low char on gul'dan (about a 3-4 week old server)
Jan 06 10:47:07 <tux_mike> cool, i was thinking to get into UI development, but i dunno if i will ever get started
Jan 06 10:47:17 <kergoth> lua is a cute little language
Jan 06 10:47:22 <kergoth> used by ion3 as well
Jan 06 10:48:06 <alan__> RP: ok... i admitt it, my stupidity is infinite... it didn't change anything. (-_-)'
Jan 06 10:50:53 <RP> alan__: I also see connection refused fron vanille - try a different server
Jan 06 10:51:07 <alan__> ok. thanks a lot.
Jan 06 10:51:27 <reenoo_> kergoth: ok, thanks.
Jan 06 10:51:39 <tux_mike> kergoth: cool, i'm still in the leveling process so i only have one real character on smolderthorn.  but anywhoo, i'm off for some lunch :)  i always find it suprising when i bump into people i know who play WoW :)
Jan 06 10:52:10 <kergoth> hehe. if you're feeling bored, start a lowbie on gul'dan, i'm the only person i know there, and its low pop
Jan 06 10:54:00 <tux_mike> ok, i may.  i'm avoiding PvP servers though, i'm getting sick of being ganked
Jan 06 10:58:41 <jbowler-zzz> kergoth: you might know the answer to this...  If I added 'inherit gettext' to handle the USE_NLS do I need to have virtual/libintl in DEPENDS (the package uses libintl.h with --enable-nls)?
Jan 06 10:59:09 <kergoth> hmm, i dont recall, been too long since i messed with it.  read gettext.bbclass :)
Jan 06 10:59:46 <jbowler> It removes virtual/libintl if USE_NLS=no (and adds --disable-nls)
Jan 06 11:00:28 <jbowler> Seems safe to add virtual/libintl, but somewhere out there some image build might rely on it not being there...
Jan 06 11:01:19 <CIA-15> 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r232007f7... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200 defconfig: build in lcd and alsa support
Jan 06 11:05:40 * RP -> afk for a few hours
Jan 06 11:23:16 <Luke-Jr> fontconfig is still broken :(
Jan 06 11:44:35 <alan__> niargh... any monotone 0.25 user in here ?
Jan 06 11:45:13 <alan__> monotone: fatal: std::logic_error: ui.cc:34: invariant 'I(ui.tickers.find(tickname) == ui.tickers.end())' violated
Jan 06 11:45:35 <alan__> it says it may be a bug in monotone, but maybe it comes from my compilation...
Jan 06 11:47:04 <CosmicPenguin> sigh - I don't want to try to grok the lakml list just to get [MMC] messages
Jan 06 11:47:11 <CosmicPenguin> each subsystem should have a mailing list, thats my rule
Jan 06 11:47:26 * CosmicPenguin pisses and moans some more
Jan 06 11:47:30 <koen> heh
Jan 06 11:47:41 <koen> CosmicPenguin: I usually skim the archives once a week
Jan 06 11:49:30 <dan2003> is this the correct way ? in conf/distro/preferred-opie-versions.inc
Jan 06 11:49:30 <dan2003>  add line PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross = "3.4.4"
Jan 06 12:03:32 <Luke-Jr> dan2003: !!!
Jan 06 12:03:40 <Luke-Jr> dan2003: did you ever figure out the fontconfig stuff?
Jan 06 12:04:34 <Luke-Jr> dan2003: or did you just hack the x = y in makefile?
Jan 06 12:09:15 <dan2003> Hi Luke-Jr , ivenot been able to get to that stage recently! :(
Jan 06 12:10:12 <dan2003> i cant recall where i got to with it either! i really shold start to make notes cos my memeory is appauling!
Jan 06 12:11:02 <dan2003> does anybody lse on here still do anything with simpad?
Jan 06 12:11:19 <dan2003> bbl
Jan 06 12:11:29 <Luke-Jr> ...
Jan 06 13:40:58 <dan2003> task do_munge: started wtf??
Jan 06 13:43:41 <Laibsch> Hi,
Jan 06 13:43:58 <pb_> hi
Jan 06 13:45:19 <Laibsch> I have monotone  version 0.24, done a pull and an update to OE but now that I do a "bitbake nano", I get a bunch "ERROR: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/pfaffe/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf' while parsing /mnt/pfaffe/src/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gpe-nmf/gpe-nmf_0.17.bb" and similar errors.
Jan 06 13:45:51 <dan2003> yeah i noticed that file has gone
Jan 06 14:05:07 <Luke-Jr> DISTRO = "openembedded-unstable"
Jan 06 14:05:29 <Luke-Jr> 3.5.4 isn't released yet
Jan 06 14:06:07 <koen|tv> s:openembedded:openzaurus: ;)
Jan 06 14:21:36 <Luke-Jr> err, yeah :)
Jan 06 14:23:14 <CIA-15> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4143dcdd... 10/packages/linux/ (unslung-kernel/defconfig unslung-kernel_2.4.22.l2.3r63.bb): unslung-kernel: Enable a couple more routing modules.
Jan 06 14:28:09 * koen build ipkg 0.99.155
Jan 06 14:33:15 <CIA-15> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0352b5e5... 10/packages/ipkg/ipkg_0.99.155.bb: 
Jan 06 14:33:16 <CIA-15> ipkg : add 0.99.155 which fixes the following bugs:
Jan 06 14:33:16 <CIA-15> * Fixed a problem when installing by hand. Now ipkg knows that a package has been selected by hand,
Jan 06 14:33:16 <CIA-15> and, if every check returns ok, it install the wanted package, instead of selecting one from feed.
Jan 06 14:33:16 <CIA-15> Moreover, now downgrade should works again.
Jan 06 14:33:17 <CIA-15> * Fixed the "Replaces" bug. Now ipkg is able to replace a package also if it doesn't conflict.
Jan 06 14:36:28 <alan|laptop> ho, by the way, i have a request concerning bitbake, but i don't know if/how can be done. My internet connection is really unstable those days. My modem uses to reboot 3 or 4 times a day, and if sources files are being retrieved while it reboots, the entire building process fails. Could it be possible to have an "automatic retry on network error" option ? Something like waiting for 1 minute and re-launching the build process if 
Jan 06 14:36:28 <alan|laptop> (and oly if) downloading sources fails...
Jan 06 14:38:01 <Luke-Jr> firefox_1.0.7 is missing a files dir
Jan 06 14:39:20 <pb_> alan|laptop: that's a good idea
Jan 06 14:39:39 <pb_> though, it sounds like you should also get a better modem
Jan 06 14:39:44 <alan|laptop> sorry it is not something i can implememnt myself...
Jan 06 14:39:51 <alan|laptop> pb_: ^^
Jan 06 14:46:50 <Luke-Jr> PREFERRED_VERSION_firefox = "1.5"
Jan 06 14:46:52 <Luke-Jr> what's wrong w/ that?
Jan 06 15:17:28 <Alan_K> Evening all.  Searching for an updated .bb file for irssi; They moved to svn and only the _cvs file is showing up in the repository.
Jan 06 15:19:54 * RP returns
Jan 06 15:20:59 <alan|laptop> RP: like Superman ?
Jan 06 15:25:34 <alan|laptop> Time to sleep. good night all
Jan 06 15:39:00 <lkcl> heya folks.  i got gnokii compiled and running on the HTC blueangel device - and it works!
Jan 06 15:39:29 <lkcl> it's too big to go on the 320x480 screen, but at least it runs.
Jan 06 15:39:50 <lkcl> now all i have to do is compile up mysql-server and i can run gnokii's "smsd" as well :)
Jan 06 15:53:41 <pb_> lkcl: rock
Jan 06 15:53:57 <pb_> yeah, someone should make a better small-screen ui for gnokii
Jan 06 16:27:00 <RP> reenoo_: FYI I just filed bug #581 against mpfr's staging function misbehaving
Jan 06 16:28:29 <Luke-Jr> RP: how about fontconfig-native?
Jan 06 16:29:01 <RP> Luke-Jr: No, I didn't file a bug against that.
Jan 06 16:32:58 <Luke-Jr> why doesn't this work: PREFERRED_VERSION_firefox = "1.5"
Jan 06 16:48:16 <reenoo_> RP: thanks. will have a look.
Jan 06 17:27:06 <reenoo_> RP: fwiw, it builds for me. but, yeah, it obviously lacks a proper do_stage()
Jan 06 17:27:09 <reenoo_> 'night all
Jan 06 17:51:53 <abrewer> howdy.  I'm having a rough time getting a monotone pull without a timeout.  any ideas?
Jan 06 17:53:07 <abrewer> MT loads 14305 certs, then just sorta hangs...
Jan 06 17:53:33 <CosmicPenguin> its thinking
Jan 06 17:56:40 <abrewer> ah, i know it takes time, but then it just times out.
Jan 06 17:57:12 <abrewer> monotone: fatal: std::runtime_error: network error: recv failure: Connection timed out
Jan 06 17:58:52 <abrewer> i'm using monotone.nslu2-linux.org, is this okay???
Jan 06 18:04:37 <abrewer> sometimes the basics work: i rebooted my router and off it goes!  Wierd (but welcome!)
Jan 06 20:03:31 <NAbyss> Does anyone know the bitbake target for OE to update the packages file in tmp/deploy/ipk?
Jan 06 20:04:30 <User1285> when building from source using BitBake and OE for the iPAQ H3xx series iPAQ, should I specify the TARGET_OS as "linux" or "linux-uclibc"?  I see that the official build uses busybox, so I assume I need to specify uclibc?
Jan 06 20:29:59 <Alan_K> Hello again.  Is there a requirement to do the compiles on a 32-bit Linux?
Jan 06 20:35:27 <User1285> Alan_K: yes, read the docs for a compelte overview
Jan 06 20:35:31 <User1285> it is quite compilcated
Jan 06 20:36:42 <Alan_K> Thanks.  I'll need to go find another box for this then.
Jan 06 20:37:28 <tmbinc> User1285: busybox with glibc is fine. i wouldn't got for uclibc unless a.) you have no mmu or b.) you are really low on memory
Jan 06 20:38:47 <User1285> tmbinc: and the -dev branch is the bleeding edge?
Jan 06 20:38:59 <User1285> i.e. something more than Familiar 0.8.3
Jan 06 20:39:56 <tmbinc> yes
Jan 06 20:40:30 <User1285> thanks you for answering my questions :)
Jan 06 20:40:49 <User1285> I have been told that development here has stagnated.  yet I seem to see current activity
Jan 06 20:40:56 <User1285> what exactly is being done at this point?
Jan 06 20:42:28 <User1285> oh, and is it possible to upgrade from 2.4.19 to 2.6 using ipkg?
Jan 06 20:42:43 <User1285> if there is a writeup somewhere on this, p[lease tell me and I'll happily go off and RTFM
Jan 06 20:53:10 <Luke-Jr> ERROR: Nothing provides glib
Jan 06 20:53:11 <Luke-Jr> :\
Jan 06 20:53:25 <Luke-Jr> User1285: lies
Jan 06 20:53:36 <Luke-Jr> Alan_K: x86 Linux is not needee
Jan 06 20:55:15 <User1285> Luke-Jr: if that is a lie, tell me why the kernel hasn't been moved to something more recent, say > 2.4.24, or even 2.4.31
Jan 06 20:55:39 <wingel> User1285, on what device?
Jan 06 20:55:46 <Luke-Jr> User1285: kernel is 2.6.14-git3
Jan 06 20:55:50 <wingel> most ARM platforms are using a 2.6 kernel.
Jan 06 20:56:11 <Alan_K> My current working Linux is an AMD-x64 (Turion notebook).  I've considered re-running install to everything.
Jan 06 20:56:16 <Luke-Jr> User1285: tell me why I've been building full images on a non-x86 box for nearly a year
Jan 06 20:58:33 <Alan_K> And yes, the OpenSlug I'm using now is 2.6.12.2, which has been rock solid so far.
Jan 06 21:06:58 <User1285> Luke-Jr I never said he needed x86, I just said to read the writeup
Jan 06 21:07:26 <User1285> I have an iPAQ H3800 series, and the default Familiar kernel is 2.4.19
Jan 06 21:07:40 <User1285> the one that ships with the distro anyway
Jan 06 21:08:29 <Luke-Jr> User1285: sure you did; he asked if he needed x86 and you said yes
Jan 06 21:08:55 <User1285> Luke-Jr: <scrolls back>
Jan 06 21:09:20 <User1285> Luke-Jr: oh, whoops.  I misread his question
Jan 06 21:09:33 <Alan_K> No big deal, I've likely killed the install anyway.  Its a mess.
Jan 06 21:09:36 <User1285> Alan_K: sorry!  I was wrong, there is no such requirement
Jan 06 21:10:33 <User1285> wingel: how can you say that then Familiar 0.8.3 ships with kernel 2.4.19?
Jan 06 21:11:29 <Luke-Jr> User1285: Familiar isn't the only OE output
Jan 06 21:11:53 <User1285> I know that.  I was actually surprised
Jan 06 21:12:11 <Alan_K> Well, I'm getting library error "libstdc++.a: could not read symbols: Bad value" (on the gcc 64bit), so I figured I'd scrape off an aborted Gentoo install on this Sager I've got here and give it another shot in 32-bit only.
Jan 06 21:13:16 <Luke-Jr> eww, x86_32
Jan 06 21:13:26 <Luke-Jr> do a 64-bit-only ;)
Jan 06 21:13:36 <User1285> Luke-Jr: thats what I'm stuck on until I can afford a new AMD64 CPU
Jan 06 21:13:58 <User1285> I'm slobbering over the X2 4200's, but they're $400
Jan 06 21:14:15 <Alan_K> Yeah, I know.  But though the Livestrong HP is wonderful for Linux, I'm still more confortable with the older Intels.
Jan 06 21:14:24 <Luke-Jr> User1285: Alan_K seems to have just said he's doing a 32-bit OS on his 64-bit CPU
Jan 06 21:14:57 <Alan_K> HP L2000 AMD Turion 64.  Running FC4 in 64-bit mode.
Jan 06 21:15:15 <User1285> Luke-Jr: having just taken assembly 101, I know a lot more than I ever wanted to about real-mode 16-bit assembly programming on the x86
Jan 06 21:16:02 <User1285> I would really have enjoyed the 8 64-bit general-purpose registers in that class...
Jan 06 21:16:27 <User1285> I hate DOS programming with a passion
Jan 06 21:16:43 <Luke-Jr> User1285: do modern x86_32 CPUs even support x86_16?
Jan 06 21:16:50 <NAbyss> Luke-Jr: Yes
Jan 06 21:16:53 <User1285> yes
Jan 06 21:17:44 <Luke-Jr> hmm, I thought Intel dropped 16-bit support w/ the P4
Jan 06 21:17:45 <Alan_K> Mind you, I had that same notebook Running Solaris 10 x86 in 64-bit mode too.  But it took three times longer to install.
Jan 06 21:17:53 <User1285> it would be so nice to have the extra 48 bits per register and the extra 4 registers...
Jan 06 21:18:50 <User1285> does anyone know what the new 4 registers are called?
Jan 06 21:19:02 <User1285> EX, FX, GX, and HX?
Jan 06 21:19:09 <NAbyss> Hm, I wouldn't be surprised
Jan 06 21:19:47 <NAbyss> Although.. EFX.. sounds like something you'd have on an audio chip.
Jan 06 21:20:43 * User1285 goggles at the thought
Jan 06 21:20:49 <Alan_K> Heh.  All I want to do is get irssi/OE recompiled with perl support.  I thought this'd be easy. :)
Jan 06 21:21:34 <User1285> Alan_K: the GPE compile has been running on my Athlon 3000+ for two hours already...
Jan 06 21:22:47 <User1285> the wiki says that the gpe/opie compiles require ~4gb, and it seems that the current disk usage is a little upwards of 2 gigabytes
Jan 06 21:22:54 <User1285> so I'd estimate I'm halfway through
Jan 06 21:23:04 <Alan_K> Oh I can deal with that.  It's the eight hours straight of aborted compiles that's got me annoyed.
Jan 06 21:23:13 <User1285> you think thats bad?
Jan 06 21:23:35 <User1285> Northwest made me take a flight with an 11-hour layover 3 days ago
Jan 06 21:23:45 <User1285> with 18 hours notice
Jan 06 21:23:53 <Alan_K> Gah.
Jan 06 21:24:42 <User1285> so I'm sitting there in Detroit trying to get my wife's dinky little Windows laptop connected to their wlan for 11 hours
Jan 06 21:25:04 <User1285> I wanted to break the thing over my knee
Jan 06 21:25:10 <Luke-Jr> Knoppix
Jan 06 21:25:27 <User1285> not when you don't have time to download it or a CD to burn it onto...
Jan 06 21:26:17 <User1285> interestingly enough my own Satellite 1800 running Slackware connected flawlessly
Jan 06 21:26:38 <User1285> needless to say it was snatched up by the better *cough* half
Jan 06 21:27:18 <Luke-Jr> 18 hours is plenty of time to download & burn
Jan 06 21:27:53 <User1285> you'd think so, but considering that 12 hours of that was spent asleep and the rest with my family...
Jan 06 21:28:04 <User1285> well, ok, 8 hours of that was sleep
Jan 06 21:28:11 <Luke-Jr> downloads can run overnight
Jan 06 21:28:20 <User1285> well I didn't think of it!
Jan 06 21:28:23 <User1285> grrrRRR
Jan 06 21:28:23 <Luke-Jr> and 6 hours is still plenty of time to download and burn
Jan 06 21:28:24 <Luke-Jr> =p
Jan 06 21:28:47 <User1285> at that I suppose it was
Jan 06 21:28:53 <User1285> but I've used knoppix before
Jan 06 21:28:56 <User1285> its painfully slow
Jan 06 21:28:57 <Luke-Jr> just get Sprint's wireless broadband
Jan 06 21:28:59 <Luke-Jr> =p
Jan 06 21:29:03 <User1285> hah!
Jan 06 21:29:10 <User1285> don't make me laugh
Jan 06 21:29:15 <User1285> I used to work for Ricochet
Jan 06 21:29:22 <Luke-Jr> no clue what that is
Jan 06 21:29:28 <Luke-Jr> I mean the new stuff
Jan 06 21:29:29 <User1285> I know how those proprietary wireless companies work from the inside
Jan 06 21:29:35 <Luke-Jr> $50/mo
Jan 06 21:29:40 <User1285> exactly
Jan 06 21:29:45 <Luke-Jr> + a Linux-based WiFi router
Jan 06 21:29:55 <Luke-Jr> = WiFi anywhere
Jan 06 21:30:16 <NAbyss> ..or you could not be totally ripped off..
Jan 06 21:30:31 <Luke-Jr> NAbyss: you can get cheaper WiFi-anywhere?
Jan 06 21:30:40 <User1285> well despite what you may say, 18 hours isn't enough to get a contract signed
Jan 06 21:31:01 <User1285> esp over the holidays
Jan 06 21:31:07 <Luke-Jr> so abuse Vision =p
Jan 06 21:31:19 <Luke-Jr> I got them to activate a free Vision trial in under an hour
Jan 06 21:31:22 <User1285> I don't have sprint
Jan 06 21:31:31 <Luke-Jr> I'm sure there's non-Sprint equivalents...
Jan 06 21:31:44 <User1285> sure, Cingular with their wonderful CDPD...
Jan 06 21:31:57 <User1285> yeah, I'd love to go back to 14.4 speeds
Jan 06 21:32:26 <User1285> wait, what was that? you only do 9600 bps?
Jan 06 21:32:40 <User1285> oh, my bad
Jan 06 21:33:22 <NAbyss> Luke-Jr: AUD$50/mo, for unlimited EDGE/GPRS
Jan 06 21:33:49 <NAbyss> User1285: Cingular do better than that.. I was using GPRS in the states
Jan 06 21:34:39 <User1285> I'm none too happy about being with Cingular
Jan 06 21:34:52 <User1285> I signed up aith AT&T specifically to escape Cingular
Jan 06 21:35:04 <User1285> and then Cingular goes and buys AT&T Wireless
Jan 06 21:35:05 <NAbyss> Yeah, gotta love the corporate takeovers.
Jan 06 21:35:18 <User1285> and now I have a 2-yr contract
Jan 06 21:35:27 <User1285> fuckers
Jan 06 21:35:30 <Alan_K> Heh.  I have Verizon for my cell, but work supplies it.
Jan 06 21:35:53 <User1285> I am *so* switching to something else when my contarct is up
Jan 06 21:36:02 <Alan_K> Just last year got the phone upgraded to something with real battery life.
Jan 06 21:36:03 <User1285> I have no idea what yet, but...
Jan 06 21:36:32 <User1285> I want a dual band phone with a simcard
Jan 06 21:36:40 <Alan_K> I've been OK with Verizon, but I mostly am in the US's tri-state area.
Jan 06 21:36:50 <Alan_K> (NY/NJ/CT)
Jan 06 21:37:19 <User1285> I hate, *HATE* Cingular
Jan 06 21:37:41 <Alan_K> Sounds like my brother.  Trying to convert him.
Jan 06 21:37:49 <User1285> to?
Jan 06 21:37:58 <User1285> I swear, ANYTHING is better than Cingular
Jan 06 21:38:15 <Alan_K> Verizon.  He's seen my phone.  Heard it on speaker.
Jan 06 21:38:31 <User1285> I have the Nokia 6800
Jan 06 21:38:43 <User1285> with SSH and qwerty and everything
Jan 06 21:38:45 <Alan_K> A fresh extended-life battery lasted over three hours talk time.  On speakerphone mode.
Jan 06 21:39:31 <Alan_K> this is an LG of some sort.  The old one was a Kyocera.
Jan 06 21:39:42 <User1285> oh, by the way
Jan 06 21:39:48 <User1285> is there a PDF viewer for OE?
Jan 06 21:39:58 <NAbyss> User1285: OPIE has one
Jan 06 21:40:06 <User1285> whats it called?
Jan 06 21:40:06 <NAbyss> User1285: It's by default in the opie-kdepim-image
Jan 06 21:40:27 <NAbyss> qpdf, I think
Jan 06 21:40:46 <Alan_K> Eep.
Jan 06 21:40:53 <User1285> where can I get the opie-kdepim image?
Jan 06 21:41:00 <Alan_K> Oh, sorry, wrong channel. :)
Jan 06 21:41:28 <NAbyss> User1285: bitbake opie-kdepim-image
Jan 06 21:41:31 <User1285> Familiar only hosts the standard Opie image
Jan 06 21:41:36 <User1285> oooooh
Jan 06 21:41:44 <User1285> thank-you :)
Jan 06 21:41:47 <NAbyss> np
Jan 06 21:41:59 <Alan_K> I must be a bit luckier, just trying to get a package or two working on OpenSlug.
Jan 06 21:42:20 <NAbyss> qpdf2 is the package name for the app, btw
Jan 06 21:42:35 <NAbyss> I'm using openzaurus here, so YMMV etc.
Jan 06 21:43:40 <User1285> bitbake opie-kdepim-image returns:
Jan 06 21:43:46 <User1285> ERROR: no files to build.
Jan 06 21:43:54 <User1285> ERROR: Nothing provides opie-kdepim-image
Jan 06 21:44:25 <User1285> what tree do I have to check out?
Jan 06 21:44:44 <User1285> is it in cvs or dreambox or elsewhere?
Jan 06 21:45:51 <User1285> err        sed 's/cvs/dev/g'
Jan 06 21:47:35 <NAbyss> dev
Jan 06 21:47:41 <NAbyss> org.openembedded.dev
Jan 06 21:47:58 <User1285> I have that, and it is updated as of a few hours ago
Jan 06 21:48:36 <User1285> grep kdepim org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/* returns nothing
Jan 06 21:49:11 <Alan_K> find . -name "*pim*"  turns out what?
Jan 06 21:49:33 <User1285> <searching>
Jan 06 21:50:48 <Luke-Jr> Pretty sure GPE has a PDF viewer
Jan 06 21:50:52 <Luke-Jr> it was in the OOO Newsletter
Jan 06 21:50:54 <User1285> ./packages/meta/opie-kdepim-image.bb
Jan 06 21:50:59 <NAbyss> User1285: the .bb file is in packages/meta
Jan 06 21:51:13 <User1285> interesting then that the bitbake command doesn't work
Jan 06 21:51:24 <Luke-Jr> Anyone interesting in helping force KDE to crosscompile? ;)
Jan 06 21:51:32 <NAbyss> Check your local.conf to make sure it's in the path
Jan 06 21:51:47 <Luke-Jr> interested*
Jan 06 21:52:52 <User1285> what should I look for in local.conf?
Jan 06 21:53:26 <User1285> Luke-Jr: I've looked through the GPS package lists and searched the GPS image's filesystem, and I cannot find a PDF viewer
Jan 06 21:53:38 <User1285> Luke-Jr: got a link to the newsletter?
Jan 06 21:54:38 <User1285> ls packages/meta/*pim*
Jan 06 21:54:44 <User1285> packages/meta/opie-kdepim-image.bb
Jan 06 21:55:02 <Luke-Jr> http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/newsletters/ooo-newsletter-200508/
Jan 06 21:55:21 <Luke-Jr> http://handhelds.org/~gpe/albums/portedapps/land_6812.png
Jan 06 21:55:45 <User1285> I am able to start bitbake with gpe-image, but not opie-kdepim-image
Jan 06 21:56:23 <User1285> Luke-Jr: thank you
Jan 06 21:57:02 <Luke-Jr> np
Jan 06 21:57:15 <Luke-Jr> let me know what the app is called when you find it, btw
Jan 06 21:57:38 <User1285> *if* I find it
Jan 06 21:57:48 <Luke-Jr> Maybe 'land'?
Jan 06 21:58:47 <Luke-Jr> nope
Jan 06 21:58:59 <Luke-Jr> gpdf?
Jan 06 21:58:59 <NAbyss> qpdf2 was the package for that pdf viewer..
Jan 06 21:59:34 <Luke-Jr> qpdf2 is Opie
Jan 06 21:59:41 <Luke-Jr> that pdf viewer is GPE, I think
Jan 06 22:00:35 <User1285> NAbyss: to which path are you referring in local.conf?
Jan 06 22:00:39 <User1285> BBFILES?
Jan 06 22:01:13 <NAbyss> User1285: Yeah
Jan 06 22:01:34 <Luke-Jr> in the land_* screenshots, what WM is used?
Jan 06 22:01:38 <Luke-Jr> I like the tabs
Jan 06 22:01:40 <NAbyss> BBFILES := "/mnt/personal/zaurus/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
Jan 06 22:01:43 <NAbyss> That's what I've got here
Jan 06 22:02:21 <User1285> BBFILES := "${HOME}/h3800/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb*"
Jan 06 22:03:01 <User1285> could hte DISTRO variable afect this?
Jan 06 22:03:07 <User1285> DISTRO = "familiar-unstable"
Jan 06 22:03:14 <NAbyss> Possibly, yeah
Jan 06 22:03:22 <NAbyss> As I mentioned before, I'm using openzaurus-unstable
Jan 06 22:03:33 <User1285> ahhh
Jan 06 22:03:47 <User1285> OK, so possibly this package is not included in familiar
Jan 06 22:04:13 <User1285> that sucks
Jan 06 22:04:17 <User1285> :)
Jan 06 22:05:31 <User1285> ohhhhhh
Jan 06 22:05:45 <NAbyss> Hmm, that blows
Jan 06 22:05:47 <Luke-Jr> fork Familiar =p
Jan 06 22:05:54 <User1285> sucky.  bitbake needs to re-handle BitBake files when it is interrupted?
Jan 06 22:06:13 <User1285> argh
Jan 06 22:06:17 <User1285> there should be an easier way
Jan 06 22:06:21 <Luke-Jr> User1285: that's why you use bitbake -iu
Jan 06 22:06:23 <Luke-Jr> errr -i
Jan 06 22:06:42 <Luke-Jr> tho changes to local.conf will always require restarting bitbake =p
Jan 06 22:07:17 <User1285> argh
Jan 06 22:07:40 <User1285> gotta love disk caching though
Jan 06 22:07:53 <User1285> sped through the first 25% in about 5 seconds
Jan 06 22:08:01 <User1285> *twiddles thumbs*
Jan 06 22:08:25 <User1285> hmmmm I don't want interactive, I want an automated build that I don't have to babysit
Jan 06 22:08:35 <Luke-Jr> 'build pkgname'
Jan 06 22:08:57 <User1285> ah
Jan 06 22:09:00 <Luke-Jr> interactive mode keeps the bb-handling across builds tho
Jan 06 22:09:16 <Luke-Jr> unless your rerun 'parse' manually
Jan 06 22:43:02 <Luke-Jr> all of a sudden, my Cxx0 images are 7 MB larger than they were in July :(
Jan 06 23:37:45 <emte> moo
Jan 06 23:38:10 <emte> anyone know of a usb-eth issue with familiar>?
Jan 06 23:49:47 <Luke-Jr> whee
Jan 06 23:49:49 <Luke-Jr> new oz-ljr built :)
Jan 06 23:49:51 * Luke-Jr tests
Jan 06 23:50:13 <Luke-Jr> :x
Jan 06 23:50:20 <Luke-Jr> is it bad if the progress bar goes past 100%?
Jan 06 23:50:26 <User1285> emte: usb-eth seems nto to work very well
Jan 06 23:51:20 <User1285> emte: it seems after a few disconnect/reconnect session when using gpe-familiar-0.8.3 it no longer works
Jan 06 23:51:40 <emte> no i was more refering to locking up still
Jan 06 23:51:52 <Luke-Jr> is it bad if the progress bar goes past 100% flashing the root fs?
Jan 06 23:52:05 <User1285> Luke-Jr: dunno :)
Jan 06 23:52:13 <User1285> Luke-Jr: you can always reprogram...
Jan 06 23:52:17 <Luke-Jr> User1285: no I can't
Jan 06 23:52:29 <User1285> Luke-Jr: of course you are probably using HyperTerminal
Jan 06 23:52:33 <User1285> :)
Jan 06 23:52:39 <Luke-Jr> User1285: no... wtf?
Jan 06 23:52:49 <User1285> I don't see how else it could go above 100%
Jan 06 23:52:55 <User1285> minicom never has for me
Jan 06 23:52:59 <Luke-Jr> ...
Jan 06 23:53:03 <Luke-Jr> where do you see a serial port?
Jan 06 23:53:12 <User1285> ohhh, you're not using
Jan 06 23:53:18 <User1285> wait what hardware do you have?
Jan 06 23:53:25 <Luke-Jr> Zaurus SL-C760
Jan 06 23:53:42 <User1285> ahh, I had assumed you had a serial interface to your PDA
Jan 06 23:53:59 <User1285> emte: yes it locks up
Jan 06 23:54:09 <Luke-Jr> well, calibrate started
Jan 06 23:54:12 <Luke-Jr> so hopefully I'm good
Jan 06 23:54:20 <User1285> emte: my iPAQ locks up if hte USB interface isn't brought up properly
Jan 06 23:54:31 <Luke-Jr> screen is flashing :(
Jan 06 23:54:36 <User1285> d'oh!
Jan 06 23:54:58 <emte> i had hoped the new changes would have fixed that
Jan 06 23:55:43 <User1285> yes it would be nice if that didn't happen
Jan 06 23:55:52 <Luke-Jr> emte: referring to the flashing?
Jan 06 23:56:01 <emte> User1285, you using the usbdown scripts?
Jan 06 23:56:08 <emte> Luke-Jr, no
Jan 06 23:56:15 <emte> i fash via serial
Jan 06 23:56:46 <emte> i am just using one of koen's new images rather than my own to see whats different
Jan 06 23:56:53 <User1285> emte: I don't have a "supported" distro
Jan 06 23:57:05 <emte> ?
Jan 06 23:57:11 <emte> in regards to?
Jan 06 23:57:19 <User1285> I use Slackware, there isn't documentation to set up hotplug with it
Jan 06 23:57:35 <User1285> if I could get hotplug to respond to the usb0 interface being created, I'd be al set
Jan 06 23:58:12 <emte> User1285, i ment familiar side
Jan 06 23:58:21 <emte> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarReleaseNotes#usbnet
Jan 06 23:58:45 <emte> its the last part of the usbnet stuff
Jan 06 23:59:00 <emte> to "help" it reconnect
Jan 07 00:01:00 <User1285> I see
Jan 07 00:01:07 <User1285> I hadn't seen that before
Jan 07 00:02:25 <Luke-Jr> I can't seem to find usbnet modules :/
Jan 07 00:02:43 <emte> usb-eth
Jan 07 00:02:51 <emte> not usbnet
Jan 07 00:03:00 * emte shrugges on the rename
Jan 07 00:03:05 <Luke-Jr> that's missing too
Jan 07 00:03:32 <emte> actually i think i see why it locks up ...
Jan 07 00:03:35 <User1285> wow, pdf has a laungry list of dependencies
Jan 07 00:03:42 <Luke-Jr> and for some reason all the modules I *do* have are "Invalid module format"
Jan 07 00:03:44 <User1285> gpdf
Jan 07 00:04:16 <Luke-Jr> think I'll need to restore an unknown NAND backup
Jan 07 00:04:28 <Luke-Jr> hopefully it has wireless and/or usbnet
Jan 07 00:04:54 <Luke-Jr> or I'll have a dead Z until I find a CF card reader
Jan 07 00:05:17 <emte> User1285, you might want to add    "modprobe sa1100usb_core" to line 10 of /etc/apm/resume.d/20usbnet
Jan 07 00:05:43 <emte> it is funny that is missing
Jan 07 00:06:32 <User1285> 10108 left... I wonder if all this gtk+ stuff will fit in the remaining memory
Jan 07 00:08:19 <Luke-Jr> what exactly is this linux-openzaurus-2.6.14+2.6.15-rc7-r2 ??
Jan 07 00:08:22 <Luke-Jr> is it .14 or .15?
Jan 07 00:08:38 <Luke-Jr> I seem to end up with two sets of (different) modules
Jan 07 00:09:00 <User1285> emte: usb-eth depends on sa1100usb_core, hence modprobe autoloads it
Jan 07 00:10:34 <User1285> emte: there is no need to add that line to the script
Jan 07 00:11:42 <emte> User1285, i am not sure i'd always count on it getting loaded
Jan 07 00:13:17 <emte> usbstorage depends on scsi but taht does not always get loaded in reg pcs
Jan 07 00:13:31 <User1285> it does on mine
Jan 07 00:13:40 <User1285> since I have a SATA hard disk
Jan 07 00:13:51 <emte> lol
Jan 07 00:14:01 <emte> maybe i should have picked a dif example :P
Jan 07 00:14:14 <emte> was the quick one that came to mind
Jan 07 00:17:02 <emte> User1285, btw its in /etc/apm/suspend.d/10usbnet
Jan 07 00:17:17 <emte> or
Jan 07 00:17:19 <emte> wait
Jan 07 00:17:25 <emte> maybe that a sym link :)
Jan 07 00:17:33 <emte> :q
Jan 07 00:17:43 <emte> aha
Jan 07 00:18:44 <User1285> I'm not using usb-storage
Jan 07 00:18:50 <User1285> why do I need to load it?
Jan 07 00:18:59 <emte> you dont
Jan 07 00:19:10 <User1285> emte usbstorage depends on scsi but taht does not always get loaded in reg pcs
Jan 07 00:19:18 <emte> that was just an example of companion modules taht are supposed to load together
Jan 07 00:19:22 <User1285> ahhh
Jan 07 00:19:52 <User1285> the usb-storage ntoes you sent me to --
Jan 07 00:20:05 <User1285> is it safe to modify the files mentioned if I plan on using a wlan too?
Jan 07 00:20:07 <emte> ?
Jan 07 00:20:15 <User1285> err
Jan 07 00:20:20 <User1285> usb-networking I mean
Jan 07 00:20:27 <emte> ah
Jan 07 00:20:28 <User1285> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/FamiliarReleaseNotes#usbnet
Jan 07 00:20:55 <emte> if you have a wlan you dont really need usbnet ...
Jan 07 00:21:12 <emte> unless thats the only cradle you have
Jan 07 00:22:25 <User1285> right now I only have usbnet
Jan 07 00:22:30 <User1285> I just got the ipaq yesterday
Jan 07 00:22:39 <emte> ah
Jan 07 00:22:42 <User1285> I'm going to order a CF WLAN card today or tomorrow
Jan 07 00:22:50 <User1285> so
Jan 07 00:23:02 <User1285> should I make those changes?
Jan 07 00:23:45 * emte shrugges
Jan 07 00:23:58 <emte> i dont have a wlan card
Jan 07 00:24:12 <emte> and i am short on srial ports
Jan 07 00:24:16 <emte> serial*
Jan 07 00:24:23 <emte> but have 12 usb ports
Jan 07 00:26:57 <User1285> well the 99usbdown scripts are a hack
Jan 07 00:27:05 <User1285> argh what a hack
Jan 07 00:27:55 <emte> yeah they are
Jan 07 00:28:09 <emte> they duplicate what usbdown dows
Jan 07 00:28:14 <emte> does*
Jan 07 00:29:13 <emte> whee finally
Jan 07 00:30:03 <emte> grr
Jan 07 00:30:31 <emte> i take it that keys are not getting generatated for dropbear  ? ...
Jan 07 01:54:42 <Mardy> hi
Jan 07 02:10:51 <CIA-15> 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r3fd4f47d... 10/packages/enigma/enigma-modem.bb: enigma-modem: remove packaging of conflicting files
Jan 07 02:10:56 <CIA-15> 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r2ad11a9c... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.2+cvs20040726.bb: glibc_2.3.2+cvs20040726: add do_munge to this glibc version, too
Jan 07 02:11:00 <CIA-15> 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r18dbf266... 10/packages/meta/dreambox-image.bb: dreambox-image: fix links-dream package name
Jan 07 02:11:05 <CIA-15> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r128236d8... 10/packages/openslug-init/ (openslug-init-0.10/links.conf openslug-init_0.10.bb): openslug-init: Add code to create /dev/rtc for the new RTC class driver by azummo.
Jan 07 02:11:09 <CIA-15> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r0ae11509... 10/packages/linux/nslu2-kernel/2.6.15/ (4 files): nslu2-kernel: Removed obsolete 2.6.15 patches.
Jan 07 02:26:06 <CIA-15> 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rd1abb05b... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.67.bb: gpe-calendar: add 0.67
Jan 07 02:26:10 <CIA-15> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0b0c66f0... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.67.bb: gpe-calendar: add 0.67
Jan 07 02:30:17 <uv1> Good Morning
Jan 07 02:36:33 <uv1> glibc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17 is not configurable for i586. gcc4 is not accepted. A manual patch of configure.in did help.
Jan 07 02:37:38 <uv1> Anyone any idea why ? Is gcc4 not able to build glibc ? I know, I had one OK build approx. 2 weeks ago.
Jan 07 02:39:55 <uv1> Compile stage broke ;-( That stops my try to get mplayer build ;-(
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