**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 08 10:59:58 2006 Feb 08 11:00:48 koen|sleep: ipkg .154 works OK Feb 08 11:02:38 may i ask why 3.5.4 will be based on a RC kernel ? Feb 08 11:03:16 because it works? Feb 08 11:03:42 we never used 2.6.14-release. had 2.6.14-rc1 then 2.6.14-git3 Feb 08 11:04:59 also, 2.6.x will mean moving from oss to alsa Feb 08 11:05:12 having a different blend of packages on the base image Feb 08 11:06:22 and we have to finish alsa integration in images Feb 08 11:08:02 and alsa support for Z is work-in-progress. iirc Liam told that he plan to simplify mixer Feb 08 11:10:19 the alsa mixer for the akita is a chaos Feb 08 11:10:46 hi folks Feb 08 11:13:17 hi chris144 Feb 08 11:13:37 hi Bernardo Feb 08 11:39:15 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rfb538f7c... 10/packages/usbutils/usbutils_0.70.bb: Feb 08 11:39:15 usbutils 0.70: removed preference of unc.dl.sf.net as it does not have archive Feb 08 11:39:15 fetching from default SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR works OK Feb 08 11:39:15 taken from .dev Feb 08 11:39:19 Wow, just got touchscreen working in directfb Feb 08 11:39:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r93e5bd9d... 10/packages/usbutils/usbutils_0.70.bb: Feb 08 11:39:19 usbutils 0.70: removed preference of unc.dl.sf.net as it does not have archive Feb 08 11:39:19 fetching from default SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR works OK Feb 08 11:55:32 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8ec109bc... 10/conf/local.conf.openzaurus-3.5.4: Feb 08 11:55:32 added local.conf.openzaurus-3.5.4 as example for building OZ 3.5.4 Feb 08 11:55:32 (based on same for Familiar 0.8.3) Feb 08 11:55:36 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rcd707452... 10/packages/lirc/lirc_0.7.1.bb: Feb 08 11:55:36 lirc 0.7.1: fix DEPENDS - close #514 Feb 08 11:55:36 taken from .dev Feb 08 11:58:21 argh.... Feb 08 11:58:28 ~shoot kopete Feb 08 11:58:30 * ibot shoots kopete in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! Feb 08 12:03:57 ~stab mcl Feb 08 12:03:58 * ibot runs at mcl with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Feb 08 12:04:01 ~stab xerces-c Feb 08 12:04:02 * ibot runs at xerces-c with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Feb 08 12:08:35 Crofton: hey, I'm messing with xerces-2.7.0 :} Feb 08 12:09:11 looks like I need to use 'standard' kde method to get kopete working... (standard mean: remove settings and start from scratch) Feb 08 12:09:40 hrw|work: why? Feb 08 12:09:54 II haven't had problems with kopete since kde 3.4.x Feb 08 12:10:22 Bernardo: 1. freeze too often (kde 3.5.1), 2. mess with contacts (they show in many groups when belongs to just one of them) Feb 08 12:12:04 hm. next step in polishing is: move keymaps from initscripts to keymaps Feb 08 12:12:30 Bernardo: 3. jabber and icq connect takes ages if at all connect Feb 08 12:12:33 hrw|work: (be aware KMail is earing your addresses... Feb 08 12:12:45 zecke: kmail stinks too Feb 08 12:13:01 zecke: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41514 is soo nasty... Feb 08 12:13:29 I;m thinking about moving to fetchmail+maildrop for fetching mails and use kmail only as interface to imap Feb 08 12:14:35 hrw|work: fetchmail+maildrop is nasty, much better to feed through your mta Feb 08 12:15:38 XorA: my home machine does not use mta for fetching only for sending Feb 08 12:15:53 XorA: and I want spam filter + folder filters Feb 08 12:16:13 hrw|work: fetchmail+maildrop is in my experience asking to lose mails, fetchmail->mta->maildrop works sweetly Feb 08 12:16:48 XorA: thats one tool more in chain Feb 08 12:17:17 hrw|work: yeah, but check the fetchmail manual for warnings about direct delivery, and I tried that config once, it was real nasty at losing mails Feb 08 12:17:36 ok Feb 08 12:17:52 gosh why use a buildsystem if you can stick the finger into /usr/local/include... Feb 08 12:18:19 hrw|work: if you run python, then getmail will deliver direct to Maildir folders :-) Feb 08 12:18:50 my setup at home is having a machine for web/email (postfix+spamassassin+clamav+openwebmail) Feb 08 12:19:57 that way I get less freezes Feb 08 12:20:06 and can check the mail while at work... :) Feb 08 12:20:18 Bernardo: at home I have 2 machines: linksys router with 8M rootfs and 32M ram + home computer which cannot be running 24/7 Feb 08 12:22:04 hrw|work: leave a Z at home to do the mail filter stuff ;) Feb 08 12:22:40 ade|desk: with amount of spam which I get each day it will die too fast ;) Feb 08 12:29:22 hrw|work: I've kept the old components whenever I upgraded, so I ended up having 5 machines at home (firewall, web+email, mine, the wife's, and a very old one for my daughter) Feb 08 12:31:22 Bernardo: I do not have place for other boxes.. Feb 08 12:31:49 Bernardo: next machine would be laptop for Ania probably. but who know when it will be... Feb 08 12:35:05 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7ff665dd... 10/packages/uclibc/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ucblic-0.9.26: Enable ipv6/rpc options for i686/i386 systems to solve compile errors (from Stelios Koroneos) Feb 08 12:35:10 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r64757281... 10/packages/gnome/libart-lgpl/i586/art_config.h: libart-lgpl: Add i586 arh_config.h file (from Stelios Koroneos) Feb 08 12:35:15 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r212e6b19... 10/packages/busybox/ (4 files in 3 dirs): busybox: Add fix for uclibc on x86 (from Stelios Koroneos - bug #657) Feb 08 12:35:38 * france is back (gone 10:29:41) Feb 08 12:41:25 reiserfs must die... Feb 08 12:41:26 ---------x 1 33188 daemon 11G 1970-01-01 01:00 lib/iptables/libip6t_rt.so Feb 08 12:48:26 i've not trusted reiserfs for anything of value, since the year when reiserfs problems caused 200M loss of personal data Feb 08 12:48:54 i have never had a trouble with ext2 or ext3 bugs causing data loss Feb 08 12:49:36 if it is a little slower, i'm patient and can wait. replacing lost data, not so patient. Feb 08 12:50:28 shadows: I used it for years.. now moving to xfs Feb 08 12:51:54 xfs support in linux does not convince me of its maturity Feb 08 12:53:16 zecke, what got into you? Feb 08 12:53:28 why xerces? Feb 08 12:53:33 Crofton: I need to get MCL Flute running Feb 08 12:53:43 undefined reference to `typeinfo for xercesc_2_7::Grammar' Feb 08 12:53:50 damn broken CSL toolchain Feb 08 12:53:51 ah Feb 08 12:53:55 heh Feb 08 12:54:03 Crofton: do you know FLUTE? Feb 08 12:54:14 feel free to improve the bb file :) Feb 08 12:54:27 * Crofton hates the xerces configure crap Feb 08 12:54:34 no Feb 08 12:55:36 flute uses xerces? Feb 08 12:55:49 FLUTE is a rfc Feb 08 12:56:08 MCL is one implementation ... and this is using Xerces Feb 08 12:56:26 ah Feb 08 12:56:38 yeah I am looking at the mcl web page Feb 08 13:43:33 * france is away: Away Feb 08 13:46:20 * france is back (gone 00:02:47) Feb 08 13:54:34 wow i didn't know people still try using uclibc 0.9.26 ... that is really quite old now Feb 08 13:55:01 there are masochists everywhere Feb 08 13:55:35 2001 !! Feb 08 13:57:12 Doesn't ipkg have any mechanism to preserve configuration file changes? Feb 08 13:57:24 it does Feb 08 13:57:38 but oe has to set the appropriat CONFFILE entries Feb 08 13:58:47 After the recent ipkg upgrade mess I found my custom /etc/network/interfaces missing and /etc/fstab having been replaced with the default one... Feb 08 14:03:59 Can I somehow manually say to ipkg "keep your hands off this file"? Feb 08 14:07:37 koen: ipkg .154 works ok in test images Feb 08 14:18:54 * france is away: Away Feb 08 14:31:32 fsck.. 275 revs to go... Feb 08 14:31:34 Are ifupdown and netbase somehow exclusive? Feb 08 14:32:19 Both contain /etc/init.d/networking and ./etc/network/interfaces Feb 08 14:34:37 Niice. I tried to upgrade ipkg to 159 but was missing the libipkg0 package. As a result, I don't have an ipkg binary to install that package with. Feb 08 14:35:02 hmmm Feb 08 14:35:03 DataBeaver: sounds like bug 1515 Feb 08 14:35:25 DataBeaver: could you add your finding to http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1515 ? Feb 08 14:35:51 k Feb 08 14:36:31 Fortunately that's easy enough to restore by hand. Feb 08 14:36:43 it is for us Feb 08 14:36:51 bot for joe average it isn't Feb 08 14:36:57 Grr, handhelds.org is being slow. Feb 08 14:36:57 s/bot/but/ Feb 08 14:36:57 koen meant: but for joe average it isn't Feb 08 14:37:02 Yeah Feb 08 14:37:45 But restoring a missing busybox for instance requires some care even from an experienced user. Feb 08 14:37:55 (Supposeing that's the only shell in the system) Feb 08 14:38:15 Exit your current shell and poof, you can't get a new one. Feb 08 14:39:42 And it is still annoying to have to copy files back and forth manually. Feb 08 14:43:03 http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2005-05/msg00356.html Feb 08 14:43:20 That might be of interest if anybody is doing code coverage analysis with OE Feb 08 14:45:19 CosmicPenguin: interesting Feb 08 14:46:46 zecke: I've been fighting with that for a while now Feb 08 14:47:05 CosmicPenguin: I did not know that it didn't work Feb 08 14:47:18 CosmicPenguin: but now it is obvious Feb 08 14:47:24 Its always ugly to have /users/jcrouse/build/tmp/work/foo-package-1.0/foo/ in your target rootfs Feb 08 14:47:37 just to call gcov :} Feb 08 14:47:50 Or at least to have it be useful Feb 08 14:53:29 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r854e6b2b... 10/packages/sharp-binary-only/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Feb 08 14:53:29 sharp-sdmmc-support: added some tweaks to fix #653 Feb 08 14:53:29 - /etc/init.d/sd use insmod instead of modprobe to load module Feb 08 14:53:29 (we do not have modules.dep at this moment) Feb 08 14:53:29 - module filename is defined in /etc/default/sharp_sdmmc Feb 08 14:53:31 - renamed recipe as it give false info being only for 2.4.18 Feb 08 14:53:34 - PV of package is set correct to KERNEL_VERSION Feb 08 15:29:14 ~lart monotone Feb 08 15:29:14 * ibot throws monotone's poor little doggy off a cliff Feb 08 15:29:40 monotone: misuse: error opening file packages/sharp-binary-only/sharp-sdmmc-support-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/sd: no such file or directory Feb 08 15:29:43 but applied ok Feb 08 15:29:57 monotone gives me the creeps Feb 08 15:33:21 CoreDump|afk: hey Feb 08 15:39:42 hmm, directfb doesnt understand touchscreen clicks Feb 08 15:42:06 it doesn't? Feb 08 15:42:30 CosmicPenguin: doesnt seem to, got links running on directfb on the Z but I cant click on anything Feb 08 15:48:59 hrw|work: what about making the keymaps binary? Feb 08 15:49:32 zecke: and use busybox format? it would be hard to edit on device probably Feb 08 15:49:44 hrw|work: right, it would be hard to edit Feb 08 15:49:47 * obergix[home] is away: I'm busy Feb 08 15:50:46 zecke: currently only collie has this problem - but its 2.4 keymap is same as kernel one so it does not have to be in image Feb 08 15:50:59 ~stab network byte order Feb 08 15:51:01 * ibot runs at network byte order with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Feb 08 15:51:39 Any suggestions for the netbase + ifupdown problem? Feb 08 15:52:05 DataBeaver: resolve it, report bug in bugzilla and attach patches? Feb 08 15:52:42 But how to resolve it? Both contain /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/network/interfaces os ipkg doesn't want to install them at the same time Feb 08 15:53:13 then one of them should rather not contain those files Feb 08 15:53:44 However, busybox can provive ifup and ifdown as well. Feb 08 15:53:46 I suggest ifupdown to be only ifupdown tools (or tools + conffiles as separate pacakges) Feb 08 15:54:12 I guess that would be pretty good... Feb 08 15:54:30 handhelds.org isn't working too well though. Feb 08 15:55:00 bugs.treke.net is OE tracker not hh.org one Feb 08 15:55:46 k... Feb 08 15:55:55 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re1e48e54... 10/packages/sharp-binary-only/ (8 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Feb 08 15:55:55 sharp-sdmmc-support: added some tweaks to fix #653 Feb 08 15:55:55 - /etc/init.d/sd use insmod instead of modprobe to load module Feb 08 15:55:55 (we do not have modules.dep at this moment) Feb 08 15:55:55 - module filename is defined in /etc/default/sharp_sdmmc Feb 08 15:55:57 - renamed recipe as it give false info being only for 2.4.18 Feb 08 15:55:59 - PV of package is set correct to KERNEL_VERSION Feb 08 15:56:25 ipkg bugs seem to be in handhelds.org though? Feb 08 15:59:04 right Feb 08 15:59:57 Hm, the ifupdown package doesn't seem to support update-alternatives... Feb 08 16:00:05 It contains /sbin/ifup directly Feb 08 16:01:49 But the one provided by busybox has some annoying limitations with regard to logical name mapping... Feb 08 16:07:39 That is annoying. I guess the right thing would be to patch ifupdown to use update-alternatives. Feb 08 16:08:39 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rd2944a85... 10/packages/libgpewidget/ (files/pkgconfig.patch libgpewidget_0.109.bb): libgpewidget: Update to fixed package from .dev. Feb 08 16:11:28 What are these glibc-localedata-translit-* packages doing? Feb 08 16:17:14 transliterating, I suppose Feb 08 16:17:28 argh... Feb 08 16:17:33 ~shoot monotone Feb 08 16:17:35 * ibot shoots monotone in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! Feb 08 16:32:41 wow - frozen turkey cannon Feb 08 16:32:43 thats good eatin' Feb 08 16:34:18 zecke: yo Feb 08 16:34:28 hi Feb 08 16:34:47 CoreDump|home: look at my next push Feb 08 16:35:14 * CoreDump|home is watching Feb 08 16:35:39 keymaps change part 1 Feb 08 16:37:10 RP: Do you have a kexec-tools .bb by chance? Feb 08 16:40:00 CoreDump|home: You can use this: http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/kexec-tools-bb.patch Feb 08 16:40:04 http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/kexec-tools-bb.patch Feb 08 16:40:19 excellent, thanks! Feb 08 16:41:04 Can I somehow get a list of all unused library packages? Feb 08 16:41:04 I've compiled a kexec kernel already and want to play with it a bit Feb 08 16:41:31 CoreDump|home: kexec -l zImage loads the image and kexec -e starts Feb 08 16:41:46 now that sounds easy Feb 08 16:42:07 so I can really "boot" a 2.4 kernel via kexec from a 2.6 kernel? Feb 08 16:42:15 sounds to good to be true Feb 08 16:42:50 Yes. http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/start24.txt Feb 08 16:43:11 very nice Feb 08 16:43:27 is there a reason kexec-tools isn't in OE, yet? Feb 08 16:43:45 The bb file? Feb 08 16:43:46 noone added it Feb 08 16:44:53 * CoreDump|home will do so then Feb 08 16:45:50 hmm mt update chokes on "monotone: misuse: error opening file packages/sharp-binary-only/sharp-sdmmc-support-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix/sd: File not found" on two different machines Feb 08 16:46:22 ~lart me for this Feb 08 16:46:23 * ibot keeps mailing hrw|work free America Online CDs until he drowns for this Feb 08 16:46:34 heh Feb 08 16:46:48 well, looks like a one-time error message Feb 08 16:50:58 NOTE: package kexec-tools-1.101: completed Feb 08 16:51:09 CoreDump|home: nice Feb 08 16:51:25 CoreDump|home: now, the interesting thing is adding kdump Feb 08 16:51:39 an image within an image in the same build Feb 08 16:51:52 huh Feb 08 16:52:02 * CoreDump|home doesn't get it Feb 08 16:52:16 I was idly tinkering with something suitable, but I got bored Feb 08 16:54:12 CosmicPenguin: what do you mean with "Image within an image"? Feb 08 16:54:42 http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/ Feb 08 16:55:06 Kdump uses an special initrd, when you would need to create, and then imbed in your actual rootfs Feb 08 16:55:18 well, imbed is the wrong term - include with your rootfs would be better Feb 08 16:55:44 sounds quite useful for debugging Feb 08 16:57:01 I want it for our stress and stability racks Feb 08 16:57:13 automatically save off the dump information on a server when a crash happens Feb 08 16:57:21 useful indeed Feb 08 16:58:35 * CoreDump|home mt push'es Feb 08 17:00:37 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4db398f1... 10/packages/ (28 files in 18 dirs): Feb 08 17:00:37 keymaps handling moved from initscripts to keymaps package Feb 08 17:00:37 - loading keymap require loadkeys from console-tools (which takes 300K) Feb 08 17:00:37 - all Zaurus machines (except collie) will get this package installed Feb 08 17:00:37 - collie 2.4 keymap is the same as kernel one so it is not needed on device Feb 08 17:00:39 anyway users can install it if want to make some changes in mapping Feb 08 17:02:49 hrw|work: very nice. I always thought that initscripts wasn't the propper place for keymaps Feb 08 17:03:44 uhmm, that monotone update is for the binary itself ? Feb 08 17:04:54 or the update -rjan2006prebreakage is the line in question Feb 08 17:05:31 hmm? Feb 08 17:06:07 ahh now I get it Feb 08 17:06:26 "monotone update" is a command. It doesn't mean you need an update for monotone Feb 08 17:06:49 ah ok, i was starting to have lots of "????" =P Feb 08 17:06:49 and for my part, I don't use -rjan2006prebreakage Feb 08 17:06:57 why's that Feb 08 17:07:16 well, I don't see any "breakage" =) Feb 08 17:07:22 i cannot access oe.handhelds.org Feb 08 17:07:24 =/ Feb 08 17:07:30 Is there some easy way to find out which library packages are not used by any other packages? Feb 08 17:07:49 DataBeaver: not that I know of Feb 08 17:08:04 pkg_info doesn't work in that case Feb 08 17:08:12 to show Deps Feb 08 17:08:18 ? Feb 08 17:09:03 well, there certainly is no "deborphan" =) Feb 08 17:09:21 * CoreDump|home build a 2.4 kernel Feb 08 17:09:24 ah Feb 08 17:09:38 Yeah, deborphan is pretty much what I'm looking for... Feb 08 17:10:03 has anybody gotten an openSSL enabled browser ? Feb 08 17:10:06 thought so heh Feb 08 17:10:20 I prefer aptitude's auto-installed flag on Debian, but I guess that's a bit heavy for a PDA... Feb 08 17:10:24 CSMan: Firefox on GPE or e should do Feb 08 17:10:33 CSMan: I'm using links myself Feb 08 17:10:40 DataBeaver: links -g ? Feb 08 17:10:49 mine won't do -g Feb 08 17:10:52 -g? Feb 08 17:10:59 gfx mode Feb 08 17:11:08 No, text mode Feb 08 17:11:13 k, same here Feb 08 17:11:22 I'm only using it for logging in to my school's wlan though Feb 08 17:11:23 CoreDump|home: u got firefox on gpe ? Feb 08 17:11:54 I once tried running Mozilla through ssh's X11 forwarding, that was quite funny. Feb 08 17:11:55 DataBeaver: well, even something pretty basic as checking your email is not possible with mini-browser Feb 08 17:12:09 DataBeaver: i run opera over X11 forwarding =P Feb 08 17:12:22 it works for me, but i need a mothership close to my wlan Feb 08 17:12:25 =P Feb 08 17:12:32 i even run gaim that way Feb 08 17:12:43 just for comfort Feb 08 17:12:48 evening all Feb 08 17:12:53 hi Philippe Feb 08 17:12:57 hi Philippe Feb 08 17:13:08 * Philippe is back (gone 19:29:08) Feb 08 17:13:10 CSMan: http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/GPE/firefox.jpg Feb 08 17:13:24 ugh, merging hell Feb 08 17:13:28 what happened to oe.handhelds.org ? Feb 08 17:13:38 DataBeaver: you could do something with "ipkg whatdepends" and "ipkg status". Feb 08 17:13:43 CoreDump|home: heh, zaurus fun Feb 08 17:13:51 any package that isn't depended on by anything else, and isn't marked "user", is an orphan Feb 08 17:13:55 some searchbot hit bugzilla, and now the loadaverage is >150 on hh.org Feb 08 17:14:13 ouch Feb 08 17:15:23 pb_: ipkg status|grep orphan doesn't give any results Feb 08 17:15:51 indeed Feb 08 17:16:12 like I say, you would need to use a combination of "ipkg status" and "ipkg whatdepends" Feb 08 17:16:13 DataBeaver: searching for orphans can be hard.. Feb 08 17:16:36 DataBeaver: do 'ipkg remove lib*' - ipkg should shout for libs which someone need Feb 08 17:16:38 maybe a script can do the job Feb 08 17:16:55 right Feb 08 17:16:56 file and enhancement request and pigi will look at it :) Feb 08 17:16:57 but also it can remove too much Feb 08 17:18:25 hrw|work: That has the downside of removing libs I want to be there for my own apps, but which are not depended upon by any package Feb 08 17:18:56 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r7a53a6d4... 10/packages/kexec/ (kexec-tools-1.101/kexec-tools-arm.patch kexec-tools_1.101.bb): Add kexec-tools, courtesy of do13@#oe Feb 08 17:19:00 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r6c269517... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot.bb files/altboot.func files/init.altboot): altboot: Update to latest development version Feb 08 17:19:32 DataBeaver: then you need to add your apps depends to ipkg status Feb 08 17:19:45 CoreDump|home: can you update altboot in .oz354fam083 too? Feb 08 17:20:25 hrw|work: nah that requires a lot more testing since there were many changes for 2.6 support in dev (none in .oz) Feb 08 17:20:37 CoreDump|home: ok Feb 08 17:20:51 hrw|work: initscripts is totally br0rked in the database Feb 08 17:21:00 can't even checkout .oz Feb 08 17:21:06 CoreDump|home: version which is in .oz354fam083 show first password (but not show repeated one) Feb 08 17:21:11 fsck.. Feb 08 17:21:49 CoreDump|home: I was able to pull/merge/update it (with ~280 other revs) Feb 08 17:21:54 hrw|work: I'll have a go at .oz when I get kexec working =) Feb 08 17:22:01 but will check with other database Feb 08 17:22:08 CoreDump|home: Do you want me to add the kernel patch? Feb 08 17:22:38 RP: I was gonna try the one from the mailing list. Feb 08 17:22:53 -branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Feb 08 17:22:54 monotone: misuse: error opening file packages/initscripts/initscripts-1.0/c7x0/k Feb 08 17:23:07 * CoreDump|home sighs Feb 08 17:23:25 * CoreDump|home d/l's a clean DB Feb 08 17:23:45 Do I need ipaq-sleep for anything on a Zaurus? Feb 08 17:23:50 CoreDump|home: I have it in my queue here - if it compiles I'll push Feb 08 17:24:00 RP: thanks Feb 08 17:24:09 it compiles allright on Akita ) Feb 08 17:24:11 fsck. Feb 08 17:25:08 CoreDump|home: base updated with that misuse error from monotone Feb 08 17:26:18 DataBeaver: you need it iirc Feb 08 17:27:04 pb__: can GPE team rename ipaq-sleep to gpe-sleep in future? Feb 08 17:27:24 What does it do? Feb 08 17:27:45 i've seen it all the time Feb 08 17:27:58 DataBeaver: control suspend/resume Feb 08 17:28:03 have to go Feb 08 17:28:03 cu Feb 08 17:33:08 eh, I wonder why he wants ipaq-sleep renamed Feb 08 17:33:17 it isn't really part of GPE. Feb 08 17:33:28 it's part of familiar, isn't it ? Feb 08 17:33:51 Well, it's kinda weird if it's needed on other devices han ipaqs. Feb 08 17:34:15 ~lart linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb Feb 08 17:34:15 * ibot keeps mailing linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb free America Online CDs until he drowns Feb 08 17:34:19 i have it on my Akita FWIW Feb 08 17:34:19 true, though "gpe-sleep" wouldn't be much better for non gpe users Feb 08 17:34:34 I guess opie has its own opie-opie-opie-sleep or whatever Feb 08 17:35:30 morning kergoth Feb 08 17:35:33 hey kergoth Feb 08 17:35:38 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1167b2e5... 10/packages/keymaps/keymaps_1.0.bb: keymaps: copy RDEPENDS to DEPENDS for those who use older bitbake Feb 08 17:35:43 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rce966f4e... 10/conf/machine/ (6 files): Feb 08 17:35:43 Zaurus machines conf: dropped console-tools from (R)DEPENDS, added keymaps instead Feb 08 17:35:43 - keymaps (R)DEPEND on console-tools Feb 08 17:40:41 hey Feb 08 17:41:36 hi kergoth Feb 08 17:41:52 ~lart linux-mtx1 Feb 08 17:41:52 * ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on linux-mtx1 Feb 08 17:43:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r284ef780... 10/packages/ (linux/linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb nonworking/linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb): linux-mtx1 2.4.24: move to nonworking to get rid of those pesky parssing errors Feb 08 17:43:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdf4fc5de... 10/packages/nonworking/ (linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb linux/linux-mtx-1_2.4.24.bb): linux-mtx: move to nonworking/linux that is Feb 08 17:51:04 gnome-vfs-dbus_svn has file://gtk-doc.m4 and gtk-doc.make in it's SRC_URI, but doesn't find those files in the OE tree, but there are similar copies of those files in the gnome subfolders for some versions of orbit2 and libbonobo. could I just move them to packages/gnome/files? Feb 08 17:53:41 also a werror_compile.patch doesn't seem to exist in current oe .dev Feb 08 17:54:13 pH5: I think there's (nowadays) a gtk-doc package that installs those files into staging Feb 08 17:55:49 pb__: thanks. gnome-vfs-dbus_svn already depends on gtk-doc-native, even Feb 08 17:56:40 ah, very good Feb 08 18:08:42 gtk-doc only includes gtk-doc.m4, not gtk-doc.make. Feb 08 18:32:16 Is the m68k offically supported by the GCC toolchain? Feb 08 18:32:48 Chocobo, normally it is yes Feb 08 18:33:41 Chocobo, Debian having a full m68k port might be a good indication... Feb 08 18:35:23 nice. Feb 08 18:36:20 Philippe: if it were redhat, it wouldn't be good ;) Feb 08 18:36:26 gcc 2.96.... Feb 08 18:36:40 2.96? Feb 08 18:36:50 yeah Feb 08 18:36:57 redhat's fork of gcc 2.95 Feb 08 18:37:06 2.96 is a know buggy fiasco brought out by them Feb 08 18:37:39 * Philippe can think of at least one program that checks on compile time if it gets compiled with 2.96 Feb 08 18:37:53 isn't everything RH does a buggy fiasco? Feb 08 18:37:58 RH5 was Feb 08 18:38:03 the last RH distro I used Feb 08 18:38:59 They always make things more complicated then they need to Feb 08 18:39:01 be Feb 08 18:40:06 * Philippe gave up when they messed up samba Feb 08 18:41:01 must have been RH6.1 Feb 08 18:41:37 my coworkers at digi were incredibly amused by the fact that i was an RHCE who really really didnt like redhat Feb 08 18:42:28 I needed to patch gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb like this to make it build: http://en.pastebin.ca/40760. does this look sane? Feb 08 19:03:46 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1f23f78b... 10/packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.44.bb: gpe-contacts: add 0.44 Feb 08 19:11:11 pH5: you got to it already? I *just* finished pacthing it myself... Feb 08 19:11:45 JustinP: did you come to a different conclusion? Feb 08 19:12:01 pH5: , I did a few things differently, actually... Feb 08 19:12:13 is the moving of glib.h to fix the MIN/MAX redefined errors? Feb 08 19:12:28 JustinP: right Feb 08 19:12:40 pH5: Ah, I didn't know how to fix that correctly Feb 08 19:12:43 pH5: that patch looks ok to me Feb 08 19:12:57 pH5: mind if I add your patch to my commit, I have another different change Feb 08 19:12:59 JustinP: I don't know if this was the best way, but at least it compiled. Feb 08 19:13:20 pH5: actually...you already have it in monotone... Feb 08 19:13:24 pH5: go ahead Feb 08 19:13:39 pH5: I'll commit mine seperately Feb 08 19:13:54 JustinP: ok, just a moment... Feb 08 19:14:00 (I won't override your changes, of course ;-)) Feb 08 19:18:25 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc96a9ddd... 10/packages/gnome/ (4 files in 4 dirs): gnome-vfs-dbus: fix the svn version to make it build again Feb 08 19:20:33 JustinP: hold on, there's another one: Feb 08 19:21:43 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9e502039... 10/packages/gnome/ (gnome-vfs-dbus_2.8.4.4.bb gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb): gnome-vfs-dbus: fix a typo in PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Feb 08 19:21:53 JustinP: ok, go ahead :) Feb 08 19:30:05 testing... Feb 08 19:31:29 shouldn't break anything, though Feb 08 19:34:51 mine were all changes to the includes of the gtk-doc stuff anyway Feb 08 19:35:50 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r66c4a964... 10/packages/gnome/ (12 files in 7 dirs): gnome: remove duplicate gtk-doc m4 and make files, move files to files/ for all packages to use Feb 08 19:40:14 hi, can anybody help me take a look at http://pastebin.com/545423 Feb 08 19:40:28 i failed to build opie-image for my h3600 Feb 08 19:42:55 minipanda: check your local.conf for errors Feb 08 19:45:33 JustinP: sorry, but the problem is that i dunno what's wrong in my local.conf, so could you help me review it? http://pastebin.com/545436 Feb 08 19:45:46 JustinP: gtk-doc.m4 could be removed altogether, the packages could use the one from gtk-doc-native instead Feb 08 19:47:07 pH5: ok, I was just updating the locations mostly. Go ahead and remove it if it works (sorry...didn't mean to revert your change..) Feb 08 19:48:21 minipanda: looks ok Feb 08 19:48:28 minipanda: are you using a recent copy of OE? Feb 08 19:48:47 em, i use a snapshot like ... 200512XX Feb 08 19:49:12 JustinP: and lastest bitbake, i just svn out today Feb 08 19:50:44 "Connecting to beaver[192.168.0.10]:80... failed: Address family not supported by protocol." wtf? Feb 08 19:52:57 minipanda: a snapshot of thechecked out dir? You really ought to get a monotone db snapshot and update that Feb 08 19:53:05 minipanda: when is your current snapshot from? Feb 08 19:53:33 JustinP: well, because access to monotone db snapshot is very slow from here Feb 08 19:53:51 socket(PF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_IP) = -1 EAFNOSUPPORT <-- Why on earth is it trying to use IPv6? Feb 08 19:54:05 JustinP: i just ask another people tar his org.openembedded.www directory for me Feb 08 19:54:32 minipanda: which branch? Feb 08 19:54:52 DataBeaver: what? Feb 08 19:54:59 JustinP: wget Feb 08 19:55:31 CoreDump|afk: well, could you let me know how to check the branch info inside org.openembedded.www ? Feb 08 19:55:36 DataBeaver: ah...don't know...there were some changes which added ipv6 to builds recently....I had a strange problem myself with entrance and ipv6 Feb 08 19:56:25 minipanda: There's .dev and .oz354fam083 Feb 08 19:57:31 CoreDump|afk: probably, --branch=org.openembedded.dev Feb 08 19:57:51 ok Feb 08 19:59:51 * minipanda off to bed for 6 hours Feb 08 20:00:24 busybox update removed all my alternatives :-( Feb 08 20:00:31 this is the second time Feb 08 20:00:40 law_: same here =) Feb 08 20:00:57 law_: yah, you need to use busybox 0.99.159 Feb 08 20:01:22 older versions have a bug (#1503, iirc) that will cause that effect Feb 08 20:01:35