**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 16 10:59:56 2006 Feb 16 11:02:27 hrw|work: It certainly looks like it. Interesting the Japanese have finaly noticed the 2.6 kernels :) Feb 16 11:03:00 it would be good to have them (japanese) but probably wont happen Feb 16 11:05:25 <_law_> http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/log.do_rootfs.1082 here is the whole log file Feb 16 11:14:23 whats the main difference between e-image and e-image-core? Feb 16 11:16:15 -core is smaller Feb 16 11:18:35 besides that? any removed functionality? Feb 16 11:19:52 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r971f0dca... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen 1.3.0: one-time pad password generator for OPIE Feb 16 11:19:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3cb3bc36... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen 1.3.0: one-time pad password generator for OPIE Feb 16 11:20:13 katossi_uni: Take a look at the .bb files.. see which packages are extra in e-image Feb 16 11:20:15 katossi_uni: compare recipes for both Feb 16 11:20:33 ok Feb 16 11:33:16 hrw|work: I'm probably going to put udev 0.84 in the machine feeds for familiar 0.8.3 Feb 16 11:33:39 hrw|work: for oz 3.5.4.1 you'll want to make sure people are running 2.6.15+ before they update udev Feb 16 11:38:28 koen: ok Feb 16 11:38:36 koen: can you add this in commit message? Feb 16 11:38:52 zecke: how about putting bittest result in an sqlite db, so people can make a poor mans tinderbox with php? Feb 16 11:38:57 hrw|work: will do Feb 16 11:53:25 koen: I would have nothing against it... Feb 16 12:05:14 hrw|work: what do you think about http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/build-image-from-feeds.diff ? Feb 16 12:05:39 hrw|work: I want to make it a switch in local.conf in the final version Feb 16 12:06:18 koen: nice idea Feb 16 12:06:55 that's how familiar was built in the past Feb 16 12:11:31 * koen tests patch Feb 16 12:27:27 * XorA watches the nails get hammered into this companies coffin Feb 16 12:27:50 XorA: ouch Feb 16 12:28:30 koen: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/megasim_launch/ in one small step just rendered our product range obsolete Feb 16 12:29:37 finally, a non 1980's sim card Feb 16 12:30:17 that would be a nice card for pda/phones to finally finish convergence Feb 16 12:35:30 for sale, one second hand XorA Feb 16 12:39:28 NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r20: task do_rootfs: completed Feb 16 12:43:46 pb_: somebody should be contacting you soon re WM8711 samples. Feb 16 12:44:19 lrg|home: excellent, thanks Feb 16 12:45:01 <_law_> koen, r20? Feb 16 12:45:15 yes, r20 Feb 16 12:45:20 .oz354fam083 Feb 16 12:45:59 koen: man I would love to hear from TT about Maemo and ALP Feb 16 12:46:07 <_law_> ok i use .dev with -r19 could this be my problem? Feb 16 12:46:16 zecke: it doesn't run on a collie Feb 16 12:46:34 zecke: and it isn't GPL, like opera, netfront, hancom and other qt/e apps Feb 16 12:46:35 koen: right, Qtopia is better anyway - right? Feb 16 12:46:42 koen: or on sl-a300 which ljp has somewhere on desk Feb 16 12:46:53 koen: well more of an official point of view Feb 16 12:47:55 I'm a bit disappointed that Qt's TSlib driver access a field with [-1] after lorn poked on it Feb 16 12:48:08 and refuses to apply the OE patch for tslib we have since... ages Feb 16 12:48:24 I even proposed to do a formal verification of my patch Feb 16 12:52:08 koen: do you know if pre2 of monotone was released yet? Feb 16 12:53:50 zecke: I think so Feb 16 12:53:55 'NEWS2: Sat Feb 11 2006, 0.26pre2 preview release' Feb 16 12:54:30 koen: but the release notes do not carry any information :} Feb 16 12:54:34 zecke: I like the idea of using monotone's cert features to track OE QA Feb 16 12:55:53 koen: If we stay with monotone I like it as well Feb 16 12:56:35 implement it now, so I don't have to get used to a new workflow ;) Feb 16 12:57:01 git is useless thanks to that 'packing corruption' Feb 16 12:57:13 hg is useless as well due to that ctrl-c bug Feb 16 12:57:25 darcs is useless because of ghc Feb 16 12:57:44 koen: well - hg CTRL-C issue occured only once Feb 16 12:57:47 and svk is too fragile, and abuses /home too much Feb 16 12:58:07 koen: but for some weird reason hg sleeps for some minutes... after it is done Feb 16 12:58:48 koen: svk is not using /home here Feb 16 12:58:48 koen: you can edit the depot Feb 16 12:59:01 by default it does Feb 16 12:59:14 and people keep bitching about monotone defaults Feb 16 12:59:47 zecke, who is svn server holding up? Feb 16 12:59:56 so if(default == bad) {scm = bad} Feb 16 13:00:01 but I expect people will use 2 different measures when comparing stuff :( Feb 16 13:00:03 Crofton: dunno :} Feb 16 13:00:27 Crofton: JustinP pushed a cset of death for svn, hg and darcs :} Feb 16 13:00:47 zecke: http://www.alwins-world.de:1180/hg/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/oe/org.openembedded.dev hasn't been updated in weeks Feb 16 13:01:38 koen: for a couple of reasons - JustinP broke svn,hg,darcs Feb 16 13:01:38 zecke: I think monotone-dumb will be enough for the most vocal complainers Feb 16 13:01:52 koen: I was busy for 3GSM world :} Feb 16 13:02:01 koen: and I want others to test 'merging' as well Feb 16 13:02:55 koen: did you write about the git packing 'corrupt' bug - or is it the one I have noticed? Feb 16 13:03:28 you and a whole bunch of other people Feb 16 13:03:52 the cairo people had a thread about it, iirc Feb 16 13:04:50 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r875808ea... 10/packages/ipaq-sleep/ipaq-sleep_0.9.bb: ipaq-sleep: Add 0.9 release. Feb 16 13:12:58 hrw|work: it seems the build-from-feeds patch works :) Feb 16 13:13:06 great Feb 16 13:13:12 now I need some time to make it conditional Feb 16 13:13:28 koen: now time to find time to extend your split-feed script Feb 16 13:13:36 :) Feb 16 13:13:46 koen: section checking is needed too Feb 16 13:13:59 koen: x11, gpe, gnome -> x11/ and opie -> opie/ Feb 16 13:14:04 please don't Feb 16 13:14:16 some pure sdl games still have section = "opie" Feb 16 13:14:19 koen: do you want to merge git/hg with any server? Feb 16 13:14:26 koen: ok. ignore opie part then Feb 16 13:15:07 hrw|work: the section splitting is a nice idea, but currently OE has bogus SECTIONS, thanks to its OpieZaurus past Feb 16 13:15:10 koen: but what for xxf86vmext-dev_0.0cvs20060102-r0_arm.ipk in base? Feb 16 13:15:20 hmmm Feb 16 13:15:39 its section 'devel' anyway Feb 16 13:15:48 that's probably because the script doesn't build dependency trees as it should Feb 16 13:16:23 I've been asking for that feature since familiar 0.8.1 or so :( Feb 16 13:16:24 hmm.. one more thing.. GPE stuff looks like unmaintained... Package: gpe-contacts Maintainer: OpenEmbedded Team Feb 16 13:16:42 didn't I update gpe.bbclass? Feb 16 13:17:26 ok. my pacakges are older then Feb 16 13:19:42 is GPL/QPL preferred or GPL QPL? Feb 16 13:20:03 second Feb 16 13:20:13 license1 license2 license3 Feb 16 13:20:19 good Feb 16 13:20:22 zecke: 'obnoxious QT licences' Feb 16 13:20:46 GPLv2 or GPL2? Feb 16 13:21:01 GPL + QPL = lgpl for rich people Feb 16 13:21:38 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7e66ca52... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: add locale-{de,en,fr} feeds Feb 16 13:22:26 I know en, de - who decided in past that 3rd will be fr? why not spanish for example :) Feb 16 13:23:44 Feb 16 13:24:07 PnZrs polish edition :-) Feb 16 13:39:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc11d7470... 10/conf/distro/familiar-unstable.conf: familiar-unstable: add locale feeds Feb 16 13:41:46 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r71e92e17... 10/packages/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Feb 16 13:41:46 packages/{qte,qt,qte-fonts-common,qpf-fonts}: Feb 16 13:41:46 Add HOMEPAGE and point to http://www.trolltech.com Feb 16 13:41:46 packages/xqt: Feb 16 13:41:46 Fix the SECTION to something known Feb 16 13:56:18 morning Feb 16 13:57:11 hey chouimat Feb 16 14:15:15 koen: gosh is branching with svn slow Feb 16 14:15:34 like duh Feb 16 14:15:48 it's 'cvs, but better', not 'cvs, but faster' Feb 16 14:15:50 ;) Feb 16 14:16:03 koen: svn cp trunk/openembedded tags/foo/openembedded Feb 16 14:16:14 takes 10 minutes here Feb 16 14:16:45 koen: I think a remote copy would have been faster Feb 16 14:19:10 http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.reposadmin.html#svn.reposadmin.basics.backends Feb 16 14:19:19 zecke, oe repo is FSFS Feb 16 14:19:24 meta-sdk is broken for fpu="soft" Feb 16 14:31:41 well the no server message is because you need a dynamic link for it inside ~/.ecore/dbus Feb 16 14:31:45 silly silly Feb 16 14:33:10 hrw|work: I fixed that in .dev Feb 16 14:33:41 hrw|work: You could import the 3.4.3 gcc-cross-sdk Feb 16 14:33:56 ok Feb 16 14:34:35 and gcc-package-sdk.inc? Feb 16 14:34:51 hrw|work: *-sdk.inc Feb 16 14:35:02 ok Feb 16 14:35:02 hrw|work: They won't harm anything else Feb 16 14:37:47 Crofton: who would not use FSFS? Feb 16 14:49:35 someone tried to use toolchain from meta-sdk? Feb 16 14:51:02 Did you try it? Feb 16 14:51:40 I'm building it now Feb 16 14:51:42 Hm.. should org.oe.dev have multiple heads at present? Feb 16 14:52:34 hrw|work: I gave it a brief test and it seemed ok. The version in .dev is a bit more organised now but still needs some work... Feb 16 14:53:04 NA|Zzz: pulling to check Feb 16 14:53:28 This's what I get from 'monotone heads'.. Feb 16 14:53:29 monotone: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is currently unmerged: Feb 16 14:53:29 4499867ad9b6a0e103bfb22ce025a16e4e7e7e94 oe@tucuxi.org 2006-01-30T11:59:27 Feb 16 14:53:29 7f8c25c665b1a4c10bb8b79773f833ed97d5cdde freyther@openembedded.org 2006-02-16T13:40:52 Feb 16 14:53:30 RP: it would be great if we could ship cross-sdk with distro release Feb 16 14:53:41 who is oe@tucuxi.org? Feb 16 14:53:51 nslu2 devel? Feb 16 14:54:30 hrw@bitbake:~/devel/oe/org.openembedded/packages/gcc$ mt head Feb 16 14:54:30 7f8c25c665b1a4c10bb8b79773f833ed97d5cdde freyther@openembedded.org 2006-02-16T13:40:52 Feb 16 14:55:45 hrw|work: Ah, crap.. it's too late for me to be working on this.. that's my local uid that I added a local .bb with Feb 16 14:55:46 NA|Zzz: oe@tucuxi doesn't have write access to OE Feb 16 14:56:32 Time for me to hang my head in shame. And get some caffeine. Feb 16 14:57:32 NA|Zzz: or go to sleep Feb 16 14:58:26 hrw|work: Yeah, might be wise Feb 16 15:01:12 zecke, Crazy people :) Feb 16 15:01:51 Crofton: Berkeley DB Feb 16 15:02:54 I guess the choice depends on what you care about Feb 16 15:03:09 I used BDB for a long time and didn't have any problems Feb 16 15:03:26 but I like the idea of the files being readbale if everything goes south Feb 16 15:03:30 Crofton: hehe as my colleague says "If you don't want your data - store them in a BDB" Feb 16 15:03:50 heh Feb 16 15:04:04 It's not that bad, as long as you have a recent BDB Feb 16 15:04:17 a few years back I set up a repo on the wrong one, that was painful Feb 16 15:10:05 hrw|work: how do I reindent files using vim? Feb 16 15:12:51 "=" on block Feb 16 15:13:10 ofcourse without "" Feb 16 15:13:43 koen: which bitbake you use with .oz354fam083? Feb 16 15:14:18 a svn revision from before jan06 Feb 16 15:14:21 r323 iirc Feb 16 15:14:28 I use r329 Feb 16 15:14:36 meta-sdk fails with it anyway Feb 16 15:14:54 meta-sdk builds for me Feb 16 15:15:04 never tried to use it, though Feb 16 15:16:56 I do not have full deploy/ipk now Feb 16 15:17:29 I'll try to do full build at home Feb 16 15:18:00 hrw|work: meta-sdk breaks for softfloat Feb 16 15:18:53 RP: built for me - failed on populate_sdk due to lack of -dev Feb 16 15:20:04 JustinP: super disco, thanks mate Feb 16 15:21:33 hrw|work: ah, right. Was that with the gcc-cross-sdk from .dev? Feb 16 15:22:00 yes - .dev build Feb 16 15:23:40 hrw|work: There is a known issue with .dev that I need to fix. I just don't like the fixes I've found so far... Feb 16 15:24:00 ok Feb 16 15:27:35 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rab33d77e... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-icon-theme_1.3.3.bb: gnome-icon-theme_1.3.3.bb : correct DEPENDS from glib to glib-2.0 Feb 16 15:34:46 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2607895d... 10/packages/gdbm/ (gdbm-1.8.3/libtool-mode.patch gdbm_1.8.3.bb): Feb 16 15:34:46 gdbm_1.8.3.bb : patch to Makefile.in to pass --mode=install to libtool Feb 16 15:34:46 when installing, base on patch from Feb 16 15:34:46 http://www.rocklinux.net/sources/package/base/gdbm/libtool-install.patch Feb 16 16:10:26 * chouimat is away: lunch Feb 16 16:13:19 zecke: http://www.freelists.org/archives/linux-cirrus/02-2006/msg00017.html Feb 16 16:13:34 zecke: looks like git is incompatible with itself as well Feb 16 16:14:11 'it is not our fault that your version is two hours old' Feb 16 16:14:25 hehe Feb 16 16:14:56 mplayer devels had one rule: if source is older then YYY then its obsolete Feb 16 16:16:01 ~lart sf.net for forcing PST timezone on project websites Feb 16 16:16:02 * ibot strangles sf.net with a 9-pole serial cable for forcing PST timezone on project websites Feb 16 16:17:10 * koen tries to figure out how OEs git fetcher works Feb 16 16:24:47 uf. switched to GMT Feb 16 16:33:02 cu Feb 16 16:50:48 hey guys, I'm trying to build nano and I went a bit further with another machine, do you have any idea of why i get this Feb 16 16:50:58 http://pastebin.com/557832 Feb 16 16:53:13 hi Feb 16 17:07:37 * chouimat is back. Feb 16 17:10:45 i'm starting to think all of the proper headers didn't get placed into staging Feb 16 17:17:43 hi Feb 16 17:17:50 hey hrw Feb 16 17:18:12 RP: rmk got card and 1st patch appeared on lakml Feb 16 17:22:38 * Philippe is back (gone 19:20:36) Feb 16 17:26:08 NOTE: Applying patch 'rmk-mmc1.patch' Feb 16 17:37:42 evening Feb 16 17:41:33 someone know how to make azureus (or java apps at all) more system friendly? currently it use lot of mem and cpu Feb 16 17:43:23 hrw: don't write in java Feb 16 17:43:49 Zero_Chaos: I do not write in Java - I use java apps and applets Feb 16 17:44:04 hey guys, I'm trying to build nano and I went a bit further with another machine, do you have any idea of why i get this Feb 16 17:44:09 http://pastebin.com/557832 Feb 16 17:44:25 cya later Feb 16 17:46:07 CSMan: does this help? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2134160.html?sid=203f162bf7e0bb20246235dbaf2d85a5 Feb 16 17:47:38 CSMan: you have 'file' in host enviroment? Feb 16 17:51:07 i should Feb 16 17:51:36 yeah, file works Feb 16 17:52:08 hrw: do i need it in an env var ? Feb 16 17:53:08 do not know - I didnt trace all those 'file/file-native' problems which was last month Feb 16 17:54:45 so i have to Change lestring16 to string Feb 16 17:55:57 CSMan: keep reading, I think there's another approach farther down Feb 16 17:56:03 ok Feb 16 17:57:54 last time I checked, file's build system appeared to assume a similar version is already installed. I was only able to update it incrementally version by version... Feb 16 17:58:46 i see Feb 16 17:59:24 (yes, that does sound a bit odd. I didn't have the time to investigate further back then) Feb 16 17:59:51 i'll just do the substitution Feb 16 18:00:11 there's no emerge --unemerge equivalent in bitbake Feb 16 18:29:48 * france is back (gone 11:00:21) Feb 16 18:35:20 now it's working =) Feb 16 18:35:41 once i get the chain tools, i'll be all set Feb 16 18:35:54 toolchains? chaintools ? Feb 16 18:36:00 =P Feb 16 18:36:00 CSMan: great. please keep track of what you're doing for the rest of us FreeBSD users Feb 16 18:36:32 mreimer: sorry dude, i'm using an mdk box because i couldn't figure out what was making the freebsd one fail Feb 16 18:36:41 ah Feb 16 18:36:45 nm then :-) Feb 16 18:36:49 mreimer: do you have quilt installed, btw ? Feb 16 18:37:02 mreimer: and well, the other box i have access is a bit faster than a pentium classic =P Feb 16 18:54:19 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9b877e27... 10/packages/udev/ (12 files in 3 dirs): udev: Add udev-084 from .dev, courtesy of pH5. Feb 16 19:22:24 * france is away: Away Feb 16 19:40:46 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra3b795c3... 10/packages/linux/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Feb 16 19:40:46 linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6: Add bb files for 2.6.13-hh2 and 2.6.15-hh0, and Feb 16 19:40:46 update handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb to point to 2.6.15. Feb 16 19:56:14 * gremlin[it] would s/pxa/sa/ :) Feb 16 19:56:25 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4fba6fb0... 10/conf/machine/h2200.conf: h2200.conf: Use 2.6.15-hh0 kernel. Feb 16 20:13:32 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rdbf72eaa... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-openslug_1.0.bb initscripts_1.0.bb): Feb 16 20:13:32 initscripts: Add an S40umountfs symlink in rc6.d so filesystems get umounted Feb 16 20:13:32 on shutdown, except for openslug where things are done in a different order. Feb 16 20:13:36 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * re93a0c02... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-slugos_1.0.bb initscripts_1.0.bb): Feb 16 20:13:36 initscripts: Add a symlink S40umountfs so filesystems get unmounted on Feb 16 20:13:36 shutdown, except for slugos which does things in a different order. Feb 16 20:20:40 Hi, I'm pretty sure this is off-topic, but I'd like to utilize wifi on a remote microcontroller. One way appears to be to use a PCMCIA card or USB wifi adapter at the �c side. Any advice on this? Feb 16 20:21:56 look for a channel where that's on-topic, would be a good guess Feb 16 20:23:12 :) Feb 16 20:27:23 hi [lala] Feb 16 20:37:17 hrm sylpheed doesn't want to run properly on a collie, i really may go back to opie if i can get qt/x going Feb 16 21:00:16 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r86aa5b83... 10/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common-1.7/100dpi.patch: xserver-common-1.7/100dpi.patch: Don't call h2200 'h2100'. Feb 16 21:00:21 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r4515f195... 10/packages/matchbox-desktop/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Feb 16 21:00:21 matchbox-desktop: add patch to allow vfolders to match against multiple categories Feb 16 21:00:21 - a vfolder can now contain something like Feb 16 21:00:21 Match=AudioVideo;Graphics;Media;Viewer; Feb 16 21:00:25 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r24754a7f... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Feb 16 21:00:26 matchbox-panel: add patch to allow vfolders to match against multiple categories Feb 16 21:00:28 - a vfolder .directory file can now contain something like Feb 16 21:00:30 Match=AudioVideo;Graphics;Media;Viewer; Feb 16 21:00:32 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r83ec6c60... 10/packages/matchbox-common/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Feb 16 21:00:36 matchbox-common: add Media category. Fixes hh.org Bug #1462. Feb 16 21:00:38 - makes use of multiple category matching code in matchbox-desktop_0.9.1-r1 Feb 16 21:00:40 and matchbox-panel_0.9.2-r11 Feb 16 21:24:10 re Feb 16 21:25:54 greentux: ping? Feb 16 21:26:06 hrw: pong Feb 16 21:26:22 greentux: rmk got card - first patch written ;) Feb 16 21:26:38 hrw: fine... only a little patch? Feb 16 21:26:43 yep Feb 16 21:26:46 does anyone know if arm kexec is going upstream? Feb 16 21:32:08 hrw: and some news for the "live" after 3.5.4? Feb 16 21:32:21 hrw: sorry... "life" Feb 16 21:32:59 greentux: first we have to release 3.5.4 Feb 16 21:33:18 greentux: but generally: 2.6.15 with alsa, kexec Feb 16 21:34:08 hrw: ok, kexec is very nice. Feb 16 21:35:05 Linux version 2.6.15-.dev-snapshot-20060216-r6-no-mmctimeout+rmk-mmc1 - long name ;) Feb 16 21:35:36 ah, timeout problems Feb 16 21:35:54 yep Feb 16 21:36:14 and it looks like 1st patch broke rest of my SD cards here Feb 16 21:38:17 ups? Feb 16 21:38:31 happens Feb 16 21:39:02 argh... Feb 16 21:39:16 we definitly need poodle to get its bugs fixed Feb 16 21:39:44 and someone mad enough to look inside its 2.4.18-crapix Feb 16 21:40:06 best would be kernel hacker '2.4-crapix virgin' ;) Feb 16 21:40:44 so poodle is not very well supported... not enough testers or hackers? Feb 16 21:41:04 devels/hackers Feb 16 21:41:26 poodle was released in bad moment and without thinking. Feb 16 21:41:39 good: 64M flash, bad: only 32M ram Feb 16 21:42:09 then they released pxa250 and pxa255 powered machines under one name: sl-5600 (or b500 on japanese market) Feb 16 21:42:52 some after it they released corgi (c700) which has 64m flash, 32m ram, pxa250 like poodle but also better keyboard, vga screen and clamshell look Feb 16 21:43:02 so who will buy poodle when corgi exist? Feb 16 21:43:08 greentux: and then we go... Feb 16 21:43:13 zecke: hi Feb 16 21:43:22 mmmh Feb 16 21:44:59 greentux: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-arm-kernel&m=114010862712464&w=2 is patch Feb 16 21:46:07 "god" russell ooohh Feb 16 21:46:08 hrw: did they call yet - if not I will bitch them again Feb 16 21:46:28 now that they should have returned from 3GSM Feb 16 21:46:39 zecke: no call still Feb 16 21:47:05 two weeks. Feb 16 21:47:18 damn Feb 16 21:49:17 zecke: we have a meeting tom in berlin... Feb 16 21:49:54 greentux: well I hope HvSt will be back in time :} Feb 16 21:50:23 koen|away: I have 2851 revs rosterified already :} Feb 16 21:53:13 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6c97b86c... 10/packages/ipaq-sleep/ipaq-sleep_0.9.bb: ipaq-sleep: update to 0.9 Feb 16 21:56:58 koen: could gpe team finally do s/ipaq-sleep/gpe-sleep/ in next version(s)? Feb 16 21:57:19 hrw: ask florian or pb__ Feb 16 22:04:06 ~fishslap JustinP Feb 16 22:04:08 * ibot slaps JustinP up side the head with a wet fish. Feb 16 22:05:06 hmm.. looks like 2.6.15 does not like my 256m sd card at all Feb 16 22:06:31 how could Justin create such fucking cset Feb 16 22:06:41 I really hate him for that... just wasting my fucking time Feb 16 22:06:52 which cset? Feb 16 22:07:12 "Kids no SCM conversion for you as JustinP locked us in" Feb 16 22:07:22 ! Feb 16 22:07:32 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=66c4a96409f67476191a2635d4577125b7dafa40 Feb 16 22:09:56 anyway this revs messes with hg, darcs and svn Feb 16 22:10:44 and does not look too nasty Feb 16 22:11:00 right Feb 16 22:11:11 maybe I should grep tailor for JustinP Feb 16 22:12:06 tomorrow I will disable ccache and rebuild Z kernel again.. now it looks like everytime it fails :( Feb 16 22:12:42 hrw: only issue is that gtk-doc.m4 rename doesn't work :} Feb 16 22:13:20 I think I understand the issue now Feb 16 22:15:11 argh..... Feb 16 22:15:40 16m mmc works with any kernelpatches combo, 64m & 256m sd differ Feb 16 22:29:59 http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2006/02/16/ <- not too good Feb 16 22:32:13 /w 15 Feb 16 22:32:20 koen: mnt 0.26pre2 can not convert OE yet Feb 16 22:32:26 zecke: yeah, life as a vigilante is hard Feb 16 22:32:48 pb_: I find it scary that resellers stop selling stuff to harald... Feb 16 22:33:00 pb_: this means companies are knowlingly violating the GPL Feb 16 22:33:16 zecke: still the double root issue? Feb 16 22:33:28 koen: yes, do you know the branch name off hand? Feb 16 22:34:57 o fsck.. 2.6.14-rc1/oz3.5.4 can fsck some sd cards without notice (and any other 2.6 kernel too) Feb 16 22:35:42 md5sum /dev/mmcblk0 gives random output with my 256m pretec card ;( Feb 16 22:36:52 zecke: I don't actually find it especially scary that resellers don't want to deal with him. They don't have any obligation to do so, and if somebody came to me saying "please sell me that thing so that I can sue you", I would be tempted to decline their offer. Feb 16 22:37:17 (irrespective of whether I was knowingly violating the GPL or not) Feb 16 22:37:59 zecke: net.venge.monotone.root-dir-rename Feb 16 22:38:10 zecke: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2006-01/msg00289.html for more details Feb 16 22:38:39 koen: I'm on the wiki page now Feb 16 22:39:00 koen, do you know if any of the kdrive patches to make hx4700 navpoint work got into a bb? Feb 16 22:40:16 I'm reading the bitbake manual Feb 16 22:40:19 where it says: Feb 16 22:40:19 mreimer: I know that ph5 has them locally, can't remember if they are in .dev Feb 16 22:40:26 thanks koen Feb 16 22:40:28 Appending (.=) and prepending (=.) without spaces Feb 16 22:40:28 B = "bval" Feb 16 22:40:29 B += "additionaldata" Feb 16 22:40:34 mreimer: check the 200506 kdrive.bb Feb 16 22:40:37 that is clearly wrong, right? Feb 16 22:40:46 it should be B .= "additionaldata" Feb 16 22:41:02 zekoZeko: well, it rather depends on what result you want. Feb 16 22:41:12 += would give you "bval additionaldata" Feb 16 22:41:12 in the manual I'm saying Feb 16 22:41:14 yes Feb 16 22:41:20 I'm just reading it Feb 16 22:41:24 and the manual has wrong examples Feb 16 22:41:28 oh, right, I see Feb 16 22:41:48 koen: fyi, not in any of them Feb 16 22:41:52 I'm just checking because I don't know squat about bitbake and I might be wrong :) Feb 16 22:41:52 you might want to send a note about that to the bitbake mailing list Feb 16 22:41:55 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams Feb 16 22:42:02 I'm not subscribed Feb 16 22:42:02 mreimer: ah, it's just the evdev stuff in _cvs Feb 16 22:42:06 can someone else do it? Feb 16 22:42:25 koen, oops, missed that Feb 16 22:42:35 heh, I'm not subscribed either Feb 16 22:42:43 maybe überhacker zecke can do that Feb 16 22:42:58 * zecke wakes up Feb 16 22:43:02 or überhacker mickeyl when he finishes dinner Feb 16 22:43:14 I can easily send a personal mail to someone if you have an address, but I really don't feel like subscribing right now Feb 16 22:43:26 zekoZeko: could you summarise the issue? Feb 16 22:43:32 Yes. Feb 16 22:43:36 just a sec Feb 16 22:44:28 In the bitbake manual, doc/manual/html/ch02.html there are wrong examples Feb 16 22:44:37 in the section "Appending (.=) and prepending (=.) without spaces" Feb 16 22:45:25 ah I see, it uses += and =+ Feb 16 22:48:29 smells like copy and paste issue... Feb 16 22:48:46 yeah Feb 16 22:49:49 probably my fault Feb 16 22:50:21 pb_: I think that matches my error pattern as well Feb 16 22:54:44 fuck JustinP should fix tailor... Feb 16 22:57:32 :} Feb 16 22:58:02 ~lart pretec and 'takems' for making shitty sd cards Feb 16 22:58:02 * ibot keeps mailing pretec and 'takems' free America Online CDs until he drowns for making shitty sd cards Feb 16 22:59:43 time to prepare patch series Feb 16 23:00:14 koen: hmm did you ever pull from venge.net Feb 16 23:00:29 koen: 3410 are pulled within minutes Feb 16 23:01:08 not in few days? Feb 16 23:01:16 zecke: with rosters, right? Feb 16 23:01:22 hrw: the rev counter is running Feb 16 23:01:35 ah. Feb 16 23:02:01 koen: yes with rosters, but AFAIK rosters is just easier to maintain not faster Feb 16 23:02:34 zecke: it is faster, due to the ability to cache stuff Feb 16 23:03:08 pull could be even faster with forward deltas Feb 16 23:03:16 but that would make checkout slow as hell Feb 16 23:03:30 zecke: heh. I think I wrote that bit of the user manual in Ottawa a couple of years ago, most likely after spending a evening drinking with kergoth. Feb 16 23:03:31 koen: wow svn and hg are unfucked Feb 16 23:03:33 weaves would solve that, but break merging Feb 16 23:03:54 pb_: didn't we add .= and =. recently? Feb 16 23:03:57 (you) Feb 16 23:04:17 zecke: not that recently. Feb 16 23:04:29 recent in the sense of geological time, I suppose Feb 16 23:06:51 wow my FBSD is broken as well... #! /usr/bin/perl in autootols headers Feb 16 23:07:01 well perl was moved to /usr/local years ago :} Feb 16 23:07:15