**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 17 10:59:56 2006 Mar 17 10:59:58 E199,- Mar 17 11:00:03 I got 480x480 output from this on tosa Mar 17 11:00:07 that's above my E30 budget :) Mar 17 11:00:16 E30 for any gadget? Mar 17 11:02:02 yes Mar 17 11:05:51 I currently stopped buying any gadgets Mar 17 12:04:54 happy weekend .. :) Mar 17 12:05:45 | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied Mar 17 12:05:49 why want ipk build a directory in user lib ? Mar 17 12:06:03 s/ipk/ipkg/ Mar 17 12:06:46 grma: that one is harmless Mar 17 12:07:21 ok, mkdir ,chmod and run bitbake new ? Mar 17 12:07:32 no, it needs to fail Mar 17 12:07:43 unless you want arm packages littering your host system ;) Mar 17 12:08:38 ok Mar 17 12:09:50 koen: ok --> nok ... how to go on ? Mar 17 12:12:52 run another bitbake Mar 17 12:13:02 ok Mar 17 12:13:51 not bootstrap-image, gpe-image or something like that ? Mar 17 12:14:20 rerun the command that you typed earlier Mar 17 12:15:06 ok Mar 17 12:26:56 koen: i still have a problem can you look what is wrong : http://de.pastebin.ca/46019 ??? Mar 17 12:27:29 ah, that bugs Mar 17 12:27:41 :-) Mar 17 12:27:43 try: Mar 17 12:27:56 bitbake base-files base-passwd busybox initscripts netbase sysvinit sysvinit-pidof tinylogin modutils-initscripts fuser setserial linux-hotplug familiar-version ipkg-collateral ipkg ipkg-link udev module-init-tools modutils-depmod module-init-tools-depmod bootstrap-image -k Mar 17 12:28:46 ahh, what is -k for ? Mar 17 12:29:15 continue on error Mar 17 12:29:30 koen: but why meta-packages don't ensure that all their dependencies are built ? Mar 17 12:29:31 :-) thats a good switch :-) Mar 17 12:29:51 victorz: due to a bug in bitbake Mar 17 12:29:52 is it a feature ? Mar 17 12:29:55 ah, ok Mar 17 12:30:14 nasty feature, then :/ Mar 17 12:30:17 indeed Mar 17 12:30:44 it usually happens when some package fails to build and you restart bitbake Mar 17 12:34:36 koen: thanks it build ... Mar 17 12:43:14 Greetings to all ! Mar 17 12:43:57 koen: unsatisfied recommendation --> i should add to bitbake ? Mar 17 12:44:15 grma: recommendations are harmless Mar 17 12:44:37 grma: I added a few recommendations for kernel modules that are now built in to the kernel Mar 17 12:44:48 bbl Mar 17 12:45:08 ok, then on next build i have too look why it gets not build, i wait for finish ... Mar 17 13:10:24 | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap: Mar 17 13:10:24 | fuser modutils-depmod Mar 17 13:10:24 NOTE: Task failed: /disk_1/OE/stuff/build/tmp/work/ep93xx-linux/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/log.do_rootfs.14083 Mar 17 13:10:35 can some one tell me what to do ? Mar 17 13:12:28 build fuser and modutils-depmod and then build bootstrap-image ? Mar 17 13:13:59 ade|desk: did you saw http://oe.handhelds.org/people.php page? Mar 17 13:15:30 ade|desk: ok i have tried but ERROR: Nothing provides modutils-depmod and ERROR: Nothing provides fuser Mar 17 13:16:09 build modutils for modutils-depmod Mar 17 13:16:35 and psmisc for fuser Mar 17 13:17:13 i should do : bitbake modutils psmisc ? Mar 17 13:33:29 hrw|work: thanks Mar 17 13:33:46 yes Mar 17 13:41:01 hrw|work: compiled finished, yeah thanks. how could i now make that on next build the same cvs,svn and other version controll systems use the smae version. I want that on next build it gets build like now ... Mar 17 13:41:43 use fixed SRCDATE in local.conf Mar 17 13:41:46 and whne i now want to build gpe-image it would be good to copie the hole tmp to _tmp_task_bootstrap ? Mar 17 13:42:17 no need to do this Mar 17 13:42:23 SRCDATE --> some example ? Mar 17 13:42:32 SRCDATE=YYYYMMDD Mar 17 13:42:38 20060316 for example Mar 17 13:42:45 ISO date format Mar 17 13:43:03 OK thanks Mar 17 13:53:25 arg... Mar 17 13:53:35 have to install windows software :/ Mar 17 14:00:41 koen: thanks bootstrap-image completed, missing was: modutils psmisc Mar 17 14:01:06 no try gpe :-) Mar 17 14:02:41 koen: http://de.pastebin.ca/46024 oops Mar 17 14:03:51 hrm Mar 17 14:03:56 stupid bitbake bug Mar 17 14:04:02 :-) i am sorry Mar 17 14:04:07 try Mar 17 14:04:41 bitbake -k Mar 17 14:04:53 ok Mar 17 14:05:57 hi Bernardo|away Mar 17 14:12:02 orbet2-native does an infinite loop when building Mar 17 14:12:13 orbit2 even Mar 17 14:13:20 koen: havent seen that Mar 17 14:15:43 make -j is broken with orbit Mar 17 14:15:57 remove PARALLEL_MAKE Mar 17 14:16:35 at least, it worked for me :) Mar 17 14:17:54 try adding PARALLEL_MAKE = "" to orbit2 Mar 17 14:18:04 that will disable it only for orbit2 Mar 17 14:20:03 I also added this line in orbit2-native_2.13.2.bb Mar 17 14:22:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r56deb4c1... 10/packages/gnome/orbit2-native_2.13.2.bb: orbit2-native: disable parallel make Mar 17 14:24:09 rxvt-unicode has problems with gcc 4.1 Mar 17 14:24:38 it works fine over here Mar 17 14:24:58 gcc 4.1 + glibc 2.4 Mar 17 14:27:30 did you find something for ecore-x11 and Xutf8TextPropertyToTextList ? Mar 17 14:28:12 koen: really? maybe I'm missing something. I get something like : error: #error set intp_t Mar 17 14:32:04 koen: If not glibc version is explicitly defined, what do I get? I guess 2.4 is too new Mar 17 14:34:53 koen: btw can you pastebin me the bits/setjmp.h out of glibc 2.4? I want to check for something Mar 17 14:38:01 hrw|work: re: people.php .. cool very useful Mar 17 14:38:20 ade|desk: your function? Mar 17 14:39:55 good question, i often wonder, as does my wife Mar 17 14:40:42 * XorA is fully functionless :-) Mar 17 14:41:14 XorA: hmm. Mar 17 14:41:31 apart from crashing the sd driver again :-( Mar 17 14:41:47 hrw|work: i don't have a particular field, i just happen to fix parts that stop me from doing whatever i need doing at that time Mar 17 14:42:22 ok Mar 17 14:42:23 * ade|desk thinks i should go back and look at uclibc builds now there is eabi support Mar 17 14:42:56 ade|desk: 'local uclibc guru' ;D Mar 17 14:43:10 lol, i think not Mar 17 14:44:52 might take a look at bending rdesktop to use gnutls first before killing uclibc Mar 17 14:55:46 hm, did anybody looked at gstreamer-0.10? i've made some .bb files for the .dreambox brach (without x etc.), so if anybody wants to pick them up and put them in the .dev branch, that would be great. However i can't maintain them for non-dreambox architectures/distributions, so I won't put them in the .dev branch myself. Mar 17 14:58:51 please put them in .dev yourself Mar 17 14:59:41 then someone will take care of them Mar 17 14:59:46 ok Mar 17 15:00:26 ~seen mickeyl Mar 17 15:00:31 mickeyl is currently on #oe #opie, last said: 'optimist, even'. Mar 17 15:00:57 two days ago ibot Mar 17 15:01:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rdc569639... 10/packages/gstreamer/ (6 files): gstreamer: add gstreamer-0.10, gst-plugins-base,-good,-bad,-ugly Mar 17 15:01:53 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r5a60e958... 10/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugins.inc: gst-plugins: fix metadata Mar 17 15:02:29 (i'll commit them later to .dev, need bring the .dev branch up-to-date first) Mar 17 15:04:44 btw how is the preferred order for the .bb file entries again (LICENSE, PR, DESCRIPTION etc.)? (is that documented somewhere?) Mar 17 15:05:56 it was on wiki somewhere Mar 17 15:09:31 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/bb_20file, ok thanks Mar 17 15:10:45 Suggested declaration order is: DESCRIPTION, SECTION, LICENSE, HOMEPAGE, MAINTAINER, DEPENDS, RDEPENDS, PV, PR, inherit, SRC_URI, S, do_configure(), do_compile(), do_stage(), do_install(), PACKAGES, FILES Mar 17 15:10:50 really FILES at the end? Mar 17 15:11:25 yes Mar 17 15:11:33 atleast after PACKAGES Mar 17 15:11:42 * XorA hates SD cards Mar 17 15:11:59 XorA: another one died? Mar 17 15:12:23 hrw|work: nothing wrong with the card as far as I can ascertain, the linux driver just crashes when doing large writes Mar 17 15:12:41 hrw|work: but no oops or error messages, processes just enter D state Mar 17 15:13:11 welcome in world where specs are closed Mar 17 15:13:30 hrw|work: yeah :-( I so need to buy a CXX00 and forget SD forever Mar 17 15:14:11 ;) Mar 17 15:14:17 XorA: i'd go 3x00 now, 1000 is a bit limiting Mar 17 15:14:19 buy c1000 ;D Mar 17 15:14:34 ade|desk: anything with a microdrive will do me Mar 17 15:15:16 yeah but using the one and only useful interface for disk space seems silly to me now Mar 17 15:15:17 or a way to get two CF devices on c7x0 Mar 17 15:15:54 ade|desk: you missed me point, I want microdrive + one free CF slot Mar 17 15:16:32 if only sharp made a hx4700 + keyboard clamshell Mar 17 15:17:39 no wait even better a 3x00 with bt and wifi and usb 2@480 Mar 17 15:18:32 ade|desk: and 1.2GHz arm with real fpu, 256M of ram.... and that or that... ;D Mar 17 15:19:00 the omap 3430 has fpu + dsp + 3d Mar 17 15:19:03 on one chip Mar 17 15:19:14 or free gprs for all, a good X head clamshell and an 8-way amd box back at base Mar 17 15:19:35 4xopteron 875 in pda Mar 17 15:20:04 nah, just a head to it in my pocket. Mar 17 15:20:29 hrw|work: 4xopteron is gonna cook yah nuts :-) Mar 17 15:25:22 who said that I will have it in shirt pocket? Mar 17 15:26:27 * XorA chuckles at the jokes that line opens Mar 17 15:27:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6b9aad33... 10/packages/xournal/xournal_0.2.bb: xournal: add 0.2 Mar 17 15:35:21 hi Mar 17 15:36:00 hi mickeyl Mar 17 15:36:44 mickeyl: how goes build? Mar 17 15:39:19 finished Mar 17 15:39:21 and uploaded Mar 17 15:39:27 now do with it what you want :D Mar 17 15:39:40 everyhing is below /data/tmp/mickeyl/openzaurus/ Mar 17 15:40:05 ok Mar 17 15:40:07 great Mar 17 15:40:55 ls |wc = 11094 - BIG Mar 17 15:41:22 820M feed... nice Mar 17 15:43:37 hm. first do a backup. Mar 17 15:45:31 yeah Mar 17 15:45:38 ah i also prepared a log for you Mar 17 15:45:44 let me put it online Mar 17 15:46:20 hey zecke Mar 17 15:46:25 hail zecke, mickey Mar 17 15:46:31 hey pb_ Mar 17 15:46:32 hi zecke Mar 17 15:46:42 mickeyl: hey Mar 17 15:46:57 hrw: http://vanille.de/temp/worldbuild.log Mar 17 15:48:28 fetched Mar 17 15:48:51 1.9G ./openzaurus Mar 17 15:48:58 rulz Mar 17 15:49:57 * zecke starts an escalation Mar 17 15:51:30 mickeyl: nice timing: you finished 3.5.4 when pH5 booted an EABI image on his iPAQ :) Mar 17 15:53:06 mickeyl: can you chmod files/dirs so I can change there? no need to use 6G for one release (your copy, my copy, release) Mar 17 15:53:49 koen: glibc 2.4 is giving me this error: "compiler support for __thread is required", what does it mean? Mar 17 15:54:08 that you need nptl or linuxthreads iirc Mar 17 15:54:51 koen: and as I set in #openzaurus: release <2006.03.20 Mar 17 15:55:28 koen: how do I do that? Mar 17 15:56:16 katossi: no idea, it worked for me with the angstrom configs Mar 17 15:57:16 koen: heh, cool Mar 17 15:57:24 hrw|work: yeah, holdon Mar 17 15:57:36 mickeyl: I already copied it anyway :) Mar 17 15:57:42 I guess GLIBC_ADDONS = "nptl" in the akita conf should make it Mar 17 15:57:55 katossi: its rather distro thing Mar 17 15:58:08 aha the I'll check the oz Mar 17 15:58:23 hrw|work: everything a+rwx Mar 17 15:58:52 ok Mar 17 15:59:29 feed/(base, x11, machine/*/, locale/*/, opie) + empty feed/gpe/ Mar 17 16:00:01 mv 3.5.4-world-build/* . Mar 17 16:00:06 bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long Mar 17 16:00:07 heh.. Mar 17 16:00:12 :D Mar 17 16:00:18 11093 files Mar 17 16:00:41 crazy Mar 17 16:01:19 hi Mar 17 16:01:35 hrw|work: everytime I delete my tmp happens to me, use 'for' is a good idea I think Mar 17 16:02:52 hrw|work: use GNU! Mar 17 16:03:24 started split-world Mar 17 16:04:04 hrw: i had a problem compiling oz354fam083 branch for poodle, seems to be a typo in poodle-2.4.conf PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "poodle-kernels-2.4-embedix" should be "poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix" :) Mar 17 16:04:58 sws: ok - will try to remember Mar 17 16:07:33 ugh Mar 17 16:07:34 monotone: trying 3-way merge Mar 17 16:07:35 monotone: help required for 3-way merge Mar 17 16:07:35 monotone: [ancestor] conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf Mar 17 16:20:23 mickeyl: no perl? Mar 17 16:20:44 NOTE: package perl-5.8.7-r14: task do_patch: failed Mar 17 16:20:45 ok Mar 17 16:21:01 Attempted builds: 219 Mar 17 16:21:01 Failed builds: 191 Mar 17 16:21:01 Dependencies not satisfied: 57 Mar 17 16:21:04 not nice ;( Mar 17 16:23:41 yeah Mar 17 16:23:59 191 weren't working in the last run Mar 17 16:24:01 http://pastebin.com/607622 - feeds size Mar 17 16:24:03 it's below 10% though Mar 17 16:24:31 hrw|work: not bad Mar 17 16:25:27 /data/tmp/.oz354/feed Mar 17 16:25:28 time to give RP a big fat green light to do his 2.6 magic Mar 17 16:25:34 in .branch Mar 17 16:26:22 i still prefer a split by SECTION but it's your call this time :) Mar 17 16:26:39 squashfs 3.0 has been released Mar 17 16:27:08 anyone follow unionfs ? Mar 17 16:27:21 I'm still hoping this to work out eventually Mar 17 16:27:28 I use it whenever possible Mar 17 16:27:33 what happened? Was there a crisis? Mar 17 16:27:50 other than it OOPses like hell on arm, it's ok Mar 17 16:27:57 i was hoping they could find those bugs Mar 17 16:28:03 didn't look at it for some month Mar 17 16:28:04 s Mar 17 16:29:17 instead of saying "you can't do that, you idiot", it oopses Mar 17 16:29:29 heh, yeah kind of that Mar 17 16:30:44 when trying to explain that people say "why don't you stop issueing wrong commands?" Mar 17 16:30:59 hey that sounds familiar to us ;) Mar 17 16:31:13 OT: first angstrom build launched Mar 17 16:31:35 I bet it will fail to find some kernel headers Mar 17 16:31:45 the fix is obvious, but needs a clean way Mar 17 16:33:26 hmm Mar 17 16:33:27 eek Mar 17 16:33:30 much ealier Mar 17 16:33:40 ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency perl-native-runtime Mar 17 16:33:56 sounds like your local.conf is broken Mar 17 16:34:07 hint: ASSUME_PROVIDED += "foo" Mar 17 16:34:23 what's that? *g* Mar 17 16:34:55 mickeyl: the first chapter of my theses got approved today :) Mar 17 16:35:24 koen|food: yay, congrats! Mar 17 16:35:37 my boss just blew my 5th chapter away today :/ Mar 17 16:36:06 "i don't understand it. we need to work on the structure. what's this and that and this? did you read foo and bar and ...." Mar 17 16:36:12 *sigh* Mar 17 16:36:55 koen|food: your split-feed does not work with arm+armv5te packages Mar 17 16:36:59 it always needs a number of iterations to get something into his mind Mar 17 16:42:35 bbl Mar 17 16:42:46 cu mickey|bbl Mar 17 16:45:52 bye Mar 17 16:46:02 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r27b9c5ad... 10/packages/ (3 files in 3 dirs): pvrusb2-mci: upgrade to fix undetected host dependency Mar 17 16:50:13 I'm gonna give a try to angstrom and akita, and see what happends Mar 17 16:51:45 bleh Mar 17 16:53:15 bleh indeed Mar 17 16:53:19 * pb__ returns from the soldering bench Mar 17 16:53:27 fitting these 0402 components by hand is no fun Mar 17 17:13:04 cu Mar 17 17:16:30 hi guys Mar 17 17:37:20 afternoon Mar 17 17:40:36 reenoo: hello! Mar 17 17:41:05 hey france_ Mar 17 17:41:26 reenoo: hi Mar 17 18:01:54 chris144: I don't know if they told you, but there is .src.rpm support in OE, but its ancient Mar 17 18:02:11 chris144: by ancient, I mean from the early days of OE when kergoth was still getting it working Mar 17 18:02:20 hi CosmicPenguin Mar 17 18:02:29 maybe uv1 could help you with that Mar 17 18:02:34 he works in an rpm shop Mar 17 18:02:38 ho koen Mar 17 18:02:45 hey chris144 Mar 17 18:03:46 ~seen uv1 Mar 17 18:03:51 uv1 was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 1d 22h 45m 23s ago, saying: 'Bye ...'. Mar 17 18:04:16 guys, I think I fixed it in the meantime, have a look if you like at: http://pastebin.ca/46047 Mar 17 18:05:13 There's another option that doesn't have a rpm dependency Mar 17 18:05:21 cpio Mar 17 18:05:33 do_unpack() { Mar 17 18:05:33 rpm2cpio.pl ${A} | cpio -i --make-directories Mar 17 18:05:33 } Mar 17 18:05:52 there should be a perl based version of rpm2cpio in the repo Mar 17 18:06:26 CosmicPenguin: do you think I should use that in the .bb? Mar 17 18:06:31 * CosmicPenguin shrugs Mar 17 18:06:36 I know that building rpm-native is a cast iron bitch Mar 17 18:07:12 hehe, i remember using oe to build montavista src.rpms and emit ipks Mar 17 18:07:13 And its complete hell on a AMD64 Mar 17 18:07:15 or at least it was Mar 17 18:07:57 CosmicPenguin: ok, my bb file uses the systemwide rpm, not ideal; I know that I should use DEPENDS rpm-native... Mar 17 18:08:05 so if it was me, I would use the rpm2cpio and call it good Mar 17 18:08:45 CosmicPenguin: ok, I 'll give it a try... Mar 17 18:11:58 koen: I saw your talk on fosdem, I downloaded it from Free Electrons.. Mar 17 18:12:09 not bad :-) Mar 17 18:12:12 :) Mar 17 18:13:13 kergoth: did you write the ancient rpm support in oe? Mar 17 18:19:12 i wrote most of everything ancient in oe and bitbake Mar 17 18:19:13 heh Mar 17 18:19:15 so yes Mar 17 18:19:23 lol Mar 17 18:19:37 * emte knows kergoth has the keys to the pyramids Mar 17 18:19:50 hehe Mar 17 18:20:21 What a long and storied history Mar 17 18:20:41 its come a long way from the ginormous monolithic makefile that we used for Tuxscreen Mar 17 18:21:22 hehe. yep. Mar 17 18:21:23 hi Mar 17 18:21:26 hey hrw Mar 17 18:21:48 makefile for Tuxscreen -> OZ buildroot -> OE -> OE + BitBake? Mar 17 18:21:49 :-) Mar 17 18:21:53 i liked the old buildroot we used, with the seperate maekfiels for each package, and the make menuconfig support and all Mar 17 18:22:02 was pretty slick, all thing sconsidered Mar 17 18:22:21 Just couldn't handle dependancies Mar 17 18:22:34 it could, actually Mar 17 18:22:35 or scale to a gazillion packages Mar 17 18:22:39 There is still a decent community of buildroot users Mar 17 18:22:52 i autogenerated the makefile rules based on th edepends inside of the menuconfig menu declarations Mar 17 18:23:04 heh - really? I guess I never saw that part Mar 17 18:23:29 yeah. it was pretty sick, and we had to have a seperate file for dependencies that didnt fit into the autogeneration Mar 17 18:23:40 definately come a long way from all that Mar 17 18:23:53 for a single machine with a fixed set of packages buildroot is pretty ok Mar 17 18:23:57 CosmicPenguin: i was glad to see erik & co make theri buildroot less monolithic too Mar 17 18:23:59 nod Mar 17 18:24:07 its hard to get past make's limitations though Mar 17 18:24:13 i was cursing gnu like every day Mar 17 18:24:14 :) Mar 17 18:24:22 And thats different then now, how? Mar 17 18:24:29 point. Mar 17 18:28:25 good appetite Mar 17 18:31:52 hehe, http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/posts/show/1709 is cool. never saw that Mar 17 18:41:24 scary Mar 17 18:41:33 250GB disks are only 100 euros nowadays Mar 17 18:58:19 CosmicPenguin: still working through x86 build, now I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/607846 Mar 17 18:59:10 koen: first have to have those 100 eur spare ;) Mar 17 18:59:47 but what for 250GB? I use 120GB and have to much trash on it and free space Mar 17 19:00:18 4 OE trees and storage for mythtv Mar 17 19:00:51 hmm.. mythtv sounds nice but it need dvb? Mar 17 19:02:03 not that I know of Mar 17 19:02:08 I used with a bttv card Mar 17 19:02:25 that one I have Mar 17 19:02:49 fsckiing pixelview crap but it works (if very properly configured) Mar 17 19:03:40 koen: you updated python on ewi and removed psyco? Mar 17 19:03:57 iirc I only updated python Mar 17 19:04:16 hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/oz354-prefinal$ bitbake perl Mar 17 19:04:16 NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. Mar 17 19:04:46 * koen apt-get install python2.4-psyco Mar 17 19:06:27 hrw: don't forget to give me the name of the new branch so I can put that in my sync script Mar 17 19:06:55 koen: I will announce it on oe@, oz-devel, fam-dev Mar 17 19:07:08 heh Mar 17 19:07:22 the last one seems a bit wrong Mar 17 19:07:44 no discussion is allowed there till 0.8.3 gets out Mar 17 19:08:28 I know but wanted them to know that new branch is because of that Mar 17 19:08:41 .oz354x familiar free Mar 17 19:09:09 diefamdie Mar 17 19:09:50 ~12000 packages for oz 3.5.4 - I have perl Mar 17 19:10:15 the split script needs some mickeyl python magic Mar 17 19:10:29 yes Mar 17 19:10:32 and more love Mar 17 19:10:42 I optimized feeds by hand Mar 17 19:11:15 libxsomethhing goes to x11 but -dec -dev to base Mar 17 19:13:59 koen: OT: do you boot your NSLU2 from hard disk? Mar 17 19:14:00 I think a dev/ and doc/ feed would also be nice Mar 17 19:14:09 koen: do you have OpenSlug on your harddisk? Mar 17 19:14:19 zecke: from flash and openslug on the hd Mar 17 19:14:30 2.5 or something ancient like that Mar 17 19:14:30 koen: do you chroot? Mar 17 19:14:39 koen: used turnup disk? Mar 17 19:14:46 turnup disk Mar 17 19:14:58 koen: how did you get OpenSlug to your disk? Mar 17 19:15:00 my next plan is to install slugos-btu in flash Mar 17 19:15:04 koen: was thinking about dev/ doc/ too Mar 17 19:15:16 zecke: flash it, boot it, turnup disk, done Mar 17 19:15:28 koen: what was the 'u' again? bigendian-thumb-u? Mar 17 19:15:36 uclibc Mar 17 19:15:55 koen: ah, hmm let us see if turnup disk works with HFSPLUS Mar 17 19:16:09 koen: 488 doc, 643 dev - no need for subfeeds Mar 17 19:16:55 hrw: 10% speed increase and 10% saved bandwidth Mar 17 19:17:31 and tmpfs space Mar 17 19:18:28 koen: fam 0.8.x used base/ opie/ x11/ machine/*/ feed structure? Mar 17 19:18:58 base/ opie/ x11/ machine/*/ and locale/* was the original plan Mar 17 19:19:06 no idea what the current team comes up with Mar 17 19:19:16 thats why I asked 'used' Mar 17 19:19:22 since everything already done is bad(tm) and NIH(tm) Mar 17 19:26:55 koen: tigert is still working at Novell? Mar 17 19:27:03 koen: Novell started supporting maemo? Mar 17 19:27:11 zecke: no, he got fired a while back Mar 17 19:27:11 nih? Mar 17 19:27:17 he works at nokia now Mar 17 19:27:23 hrw: Not Invented Here Mar 17 19:27:29 ah.. Mar 17 19:27:33 koen: oh :( Mar 17 19:27:54 koen: so he was hit by the job cut :} Mar 17 19:27:59 yes Mar 17 19:28:31 i have a question, when a bb file use debian's orig.tar.gz and diff.gz, what dose it want from debian's diff.gz? Mar 17 19:28:41 the rules file? Mar 17 19:28:47 or debian's patch? Mar 17 19:28:50 leira: patches Mar 17 19:29:06 hrw, i do not understand Mar 17 19:29:24 leira: debian.diff contain extra patches to original sources Mar 17 19:30:11 debian's patch is not applied when extract the diff.gz file, but applied when apt-build invoked the rules file Mar 17 19:30:35 OE doesn't use apt-build Mar 17 19:30:50 * hrw use debuild not apt-build on debian Mar 17 19:30:51 the debian.diff contains the debian dir under the orig dir Mar 17 19:30:58 oe doesnt generally use teh stock debian diff.gz. Mar 17 19:31:08 and should not, since most of it is irrelevent Mar 17 19:31:53 for example, package dash Mar 17 19:32:19 the debian's diff.gz contains a debian dir under dash's orig dir Mar 17 19:32:29 yes, we know how debian packages work, thanks for the lesson anyway Mar 17 19:32:45 and a patchs dir under debian dir Mar 17 19:32:53 either write a custom do_patch that applies the .dpatches, or dont use the stock .diff.gz in SRC_URI Mar 17 19:33:03 OE happily ignores debian dirs :) Mar 17 19:33:17 hi Mar 17 19:33:33 hrw: I was thinking about experimenting with .deb instead of ipkgs Mar 17 19:33:39 hey l1nux Mar 17 19:34:38 kergoth, sorry~ but my confusing is dose the patchs under dash-2.5.3/debian/patchs applied to the source, when bb run? Mar 17 19:34:43 please, howto use "openssl ./config" to build for arm ? (with cross toolchain) Mar 17 19:34:51 hi koen :) Mar 17 19:34:53 koen: a bit more work will be needed - we have /var on tmpfs... Mar 17 19:34:59 leira: ? Mar 17 19:35:09 if there isnt a do_patch in the .bb that applies them, no. Mar 17 19:35:18 as koen just said, oe happily ignores debian/ directories Mar 17 19:36:05 koen: Angstrom will have contrib feeds? Mar 17 19:36:24 hrw: I'm inclined to say yes Mar 17 19:36:30 good Mar 17 19:36:35 if it just ignores debian/ dir, it just extract the rules files under the orig source dir, but not the patchs under debian/patchs Mar 17 19:36:45 leira: the best fix would be to change the patches in debian/patches into normal patches, put them into the package's FILEPATH, and add them all to SRC_URI Mar 17 19:36:51 what are you talking about? Mar 17 19:37:12 oe unpacks and applies the patches listed in SRC_URI. tahts it. Mar 17 19:38:00 http://blogs.gnome.org/view/iain/2006/03/16/1 Mar 17 19:38:24 kergoth, yes, it dose~ i am new to oe, and just reading the bb files of oe~ i just read the dash package, Mar 17 19:39:03 showing linux-openzaurus-.bb to an audience is quite funny Mar 17 19:39:12 once again, if the debian/patches/* arent listed in src_uri or explicitly applied in do_patch, then they arent being applied right now, and it should be fixed Mar 17 19:39:24 with ./config --prefix=/usr/local/arm/3.4.1/arm-linux shared zlib arm threads Mar 17 19:39:31 Operating system: i686-whatever-linux2 Mar 17 19:39:31 Configuring for linux-elf Mar 17 19:39:31 target already defined - linux-elf (offending arg: arm) Mar 17 19:39:52 any idea ? Mar 17 19:40:26 l1nux: what .bb are you trying to build? Mar 17 19:41:11 koen, openssl-0.9.8a Mar 17 19:41:16 kergoth, thx, well, i understand now. so it is the wrong way i saw the dash_2.5.3.bb, and it just waiting for fix? Mar 17 19:42:13 yep Mar 17 19:42:31 lots of .bb files need more attention. if you want to take over maintainance of that one when you feel comfortable, feel free Mar 17 19:43:15 :) thx again~ Mar 17 19:43:40 np Mar 17 19:45:19 i am planning to add scim packages under oe using bb, and i want to get help from its debian packages, so i want to find a good example, which use debian package to build an oe ipkg. i found dash, and got the question above Mar 17 19:46:33 leira: many packages get source from debian mirrors Mar 17 19:46:46 but thats all which is debianish in them Mar 17 19:47:40 best bet on the patch side is to rip otu any patches which are actually against the code, and if you want to use them, pull them down into the oe repo and apply them that way Mar 17 19:48:11 l1nux: when did you decide to use OE? Mar 17 19:49:31 so, i just need extract the patchs/*, and put them into SRC_URI, right? Mar 17 19:49:59 thats the idea, yep. take the original debian diff.gz out of the SRC_URI Mar 17 19:50:20 zecke, i use other toolchain Mar 17 19:50:26 when is the Release for OZ 3.5.4? Mar 17 19:50:47 no idea, #openzaurus would know ;) Mar 17 19:50:52 exactly Mar 17 19:51:02 zecke, from here ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/projects/toolchain/ Mar 17 19:51:03 :P ahhh ok Mar 17 19:51:06 Bompo: here (on #oe) I can say that in future Mar 17 19:51:35 oe lacks an IM engine for CJK, and scim is a good one, pdaXrom has the scim's ipkgs, but it don't use bb Mar 17 19:51:42 zecke, but need install some libs like zlib jpeg... Mar 17 19:52:02 l1nux: you recognize that this channel is about the development of OE? Mar 17 19:52:59 yes Mar 17 19:53:56 l1nux: your --prefix looks bogus... Mar 17 19:54:12 l1nux: consult the autotools manuals Mar 17 19:55:20 l1nux: also consult openembedded/classes to see what we do to cross compile apps Mar 17 19:55:29 l1nux: alternatively use the debian arm packages Mar 17 19:56:31 zecke, without build libs ? (like openssl, jpeg...) Mar 17 19:56:46 l1nux: ??? Mar 17 19:56:51 that's what OE is for Mar 17 19:56:56 either use OE or don't Mar 17 19:57:00 l1nux: I do bitbake whatever Mar 17 19:57:11 no Mar 17 19:57:16 is BIG! Mar 17 19:57:24 :) Mar 17 19:57:38 l1nux: BIG because of thousand of packages Mar 17 19:57:59 koen: would you please stop spreading FUD about familiar? thank you. Mar 17 19:58:39 reenoo: as long as I get no straight answers I only can had U and D Mar 17 19:58:40 i need minimal cross, to build my opie and qt apps :) Mar 17 19:58:41 reenoo: l1nux has serve issues with the familiar toolchain, where can he report them? Mar 17 19:59:00 l1nux: openzaurus or familiar? Mar 17 19:59:15 familiar Mar 17 19:59:27 l1nux: yesterday in #opie you claimed you had openldap, samba etc build Mar 17 19:59:35 then #handhelds.org would be better place? Mar 17 19:59:36 l1nux: just build OpenSSL the same way... Mar 17 19:59:43 http://familiar.handhelds.org/snapshots/v0.8.3/familiar-v0.8.3-prerelease-snapshot-20051216-arm-oe-sdk-20051216.tar.bz2 Mar 17 19:59:50 l1nux: and please report the toolchain issue you have Mar 17 19:59:52 hrw: no #familiar Mar 17 20:00:05 koen: there is #familiar? Mar 17 20:00:09 sure Mar 17 20:00:22 http://pastebin.ca/45913 Mar 17 20:00:25 koen: I always though that it is not for familiar distro Mar 17 20:00:33 some people think hh.org == familiar Mar 17 20:00:48 l1nux: stop that please Mar 17 20:00:52 but I can't say that or people start screaming "FUD FUD FUD" Mar 17 20:01:08 zecke, sorry Mar 17 20:01:09 l1nux: familiar != pastebin Mar 17 20:01:16 koen: how many will think angstrom == l-t-g.org? :) Mar 17 20:01:24 l1nux: you know that you need to add -shared Mar 17 20:01:35 l1nux: and I asked you 10 times to report the issue to the familiar project Mar 17 20:02:21 zecke, with "-shared" build fine, but i get segfault in ipaq :/ Mar 17 20:02:39 l1nux: well, report the issue to the familiar project! Mar 17 20:02:51 l1nux: I'm not the familiar project, #oe is not the familiar project Mar 17 20:02:56 zecke, familiar is here #familiar ? Mar 17 20:10:28 anyone feels like proof reading my fetcher bla bla Mar 17 20:10:36 I can try Mar 17 20:10:50 cd doc/usermanual; make html Mar 17 20:15:39 CoreDump|afk: ping? Mar 17 20:53:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r942b2415... 10/packages/zaurus-updater/ (c7x0/updater.sh zaurus-updater.bb): zaurus-updater: add SL-7500 (chinese version of C-750) into c7x0 updater.sh Mar 17 21:15:56 cu Mar 17 21:16:15 grrrrr Mar 17 21:16:34 I tryed to implement w100 accel for copyarea, Mar 17 21:16:52 but I'm unable to have the kernel use it Mar 17 21:17:03 it never gets called Mar 17 21:28:30 it's strange, it starts to get called only after the device has been paused/resumed Mar 17 21:28:51 anyway, it doesn't work :-) Mar 17 22:07:34 http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2006/fosdem/slides/finnish-inquisition.pdf <- interesting Mar 17 22:09:53 zecke: indeed Mar 17 22:10:40 koen: did you know that? Mar 17 22:12:08 I know now ;) Mar 17 22:12:19 I suspect we can do a lot of giggling Mar 17 22:12:35 koen: is it part of A*strom process already? Mar 17 22:12:41 not yet Mar 17 22:12:49 Thats a good idea Mar 17 22:13:08 koen: easy upgrade from GPE to Opie should be one goal of A*strom Mar 17 22:13:23 zecke: you mean downgrade ;) Mar 17 22:14:01 QtE < X11 (lexically) Mar 17 22:14:48 man I should get things done Mar 17 22:14:52 doing automated testing is one of my goals Mar 17 22:15:02 (since I'm lazy and it saves me work) Mar 17 22:15:27 mine as well, actually it is getting one of my research interests (slowly) Mar 17 22:15:43 my PhD work will kill coverity :} Mar 17 22:15:56 I've been gathering arm board to have a nice way to test stuff Mar 17 22:16:00 pb_, pb__: what model of laptop do you have, again? Mar 17 22:16:15 and now the lcd on my h5550 broke I can use that Mar 17 22:22:27 hrw|gone: pong ;) Mar 17 22:22:48 hi Mar 17 22:24:54 hey CoreDump|home Mar 17 23:12:31 kergoth: sharp mp50 Mar 17 23:13:38 er, actually, mp70g, but they're basically the same thing Mar 17 23:26:30 shopping for one again. lacking a portable development environment is annoying at times Mar 17 23:26:35 heh Mar 17 23:26:44 heh, right Mar 17 23:27:48 fwiw, I bought mine from conics.net, but I think the mp50 is available through regular retail channels in the US. Mar 17 23:28:14 (sharp don't sell directly into the EU anymore, to my dismay at the time) Mar 17 23:30:36 crappy Mar 17 23:30:39 my opteron is dying Mar 17 23:30:49 doh Mar 17 23:31:15 that sucks. still, presumably you can just walk down the hall and pick up another opteron from the shelf. Mar 17 23:31:17 dl_main: Assertion `_rtld_local._dl_rtld_map.l_libname' failed! Mar 17 23:31:19 all over the hizzy Mar 17 23:33:39 ick Mar 17 23:38:29 hrm, I wonder why my damn jtag isn't working Mar 17 23:38:33 * pb_ stabs xilinx Mar 17 23:44:39 hmm, http://store.sharpsystems.com/product.asp?sku=2714807 looks pretty sharp Mar 17 23:45:26 * CosmicPenguin tries a new kernel Mar 17 23:45:34 yeah, that does look like it would rule Mar 17 23:45:43 the laptop, not CP's new kernel Mar 17 23:45:46 hehe Mar 17 23:45:58 laptop looks like a good balance between weight and power. 3.8lbs, not bad Mar 17 23:46:04 right Mar 17 23:46:18 and it sounds like it has a good keyboard, which has got to be a bonus. Mar 17 23:46:29 nod. hmm. Mar 17 23:46:52 methinks i'll get it after i get out of this damn extended stay hotel adn into an apartment. hehe Mar 17 23:47:05 heh Mar 17 23:47:21 yeah, getting an apartment does sound like the first order of business Mar 17 23:47:45 how long have you been there for? must be a couple of months now, right? Mar 17 23:48:10 yeah. took a bit to get caught up on the finances, having been out of work for a few months Mar 17 23:48:24 a $675 a month car payment while unemployed is bad, mmk Mar 17 23:49:03 ah right. yeah, that doesn't sound like the kind of thing you need. Mar 17 23:49:08 hehe Mar 17 23:49:20 what happened to your house up in MN; do you still have that? Mar 17 23:49:34 yeah, my dad's staying there right now, paying my mortgage :) Mar 17 23:49:47 cant go wrong there Mar 17 23:49:47 aha, cool Mar 17 23:49:54 how's work going? Mar 17 23:50:31 pretty good. looks like we're about to sign up some new customers, which is nice. and our existing customers seem fairly content, which is even better. Mar 17 23:50:41 nice Mar 17 23:52:06 how are you getting on with your cyborg warriors? Mar 17 23:52:58 hehe. pretty good. accomplishing things, dont despise the work, which is an improvemetn from teh last one. mostly userspace with a bit of kernel/system level stuff thrown in Mar 17 23:54:24 sounds good Mar 17 23:54:34 yeah, not despising your work has got to be a good start. Mar 17 23:59:23 nite folks Mar 18 00:08:12 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r8e7755ef... 10/conf/documentation.conf: Mar 18 00:08:14 conf/documentation: Mar 18 00:08:16 -Punctuation fixes. A sentence ends with a full stop. Mar 18 00:08:18 -Introduce some more groups Mar 18 00:08:20 -Start writing the synopsis of a group as GROUP_name[doc] = "synopsis" Mar 18 00:08:22 -Fix quotes of variables Mar 18 00:24:26 n8 Mar 18 00:58:31 * france is back (gone 14:09:37) Mar 18 01:08:40 Alright - vacaition time for me - catch you crazy cats in a week Mar 18 07:37:21 morning ! Mar 18 07:44:45 morning grma Mar 18 07:48:46 morning uv1 Mar 18 07:53:25 uv1: is OE the correct place to ask GTK and QT specific questions, for example doese tslib work on GTK based on X11 and directfb ? Mar 18 07:55:47 good morning all Mar 18 07:56:09 hey uv1 & grma Mar 18 07:56:24 grma: no idea about directfb, but the kdrive x server has support for tslib Mar 18 07:59:01 Morning koen Mar 18 07:59:48 koen: I think about using unionfs to solve my global / local staging problem. Do you think that could work ? Mar 18 07:59:48 morning koen Mar 18 08:00:32 uv1: unionfs has never worked for me, but it's been a while since I've tried it Mar 18 08:00:38 grma: OE is not. GTO would gpe and QT opie I assume. Mar 18 08:01:36 OK there are several chat rooms only for GPE and QT opie ? Mar 18 08:02:09 koen: The idea is to have a global build system unwritable for developers, but for the admin (distro manager). Mar 18 08:03:20 uv1: you mean they have their own work/ but not their own staging/ ? Mar 18 08:04:00 koen own work and own staging, but also a central staging ! Mar 18 08:04:18 I see Mar 18 08:04:42 unionfs could make that possible. If a new staging entry overwrite the global one, nothign will happen in the distro I assume. Mar 18 08:04:54 uv1: I suspect you need pH5's libtool-staging patch to avoid some problems Mar 18 08:05:09 what does that path do ? Mar 18 08:05:16 s/path/patch Mar 18 08:05:26 it changes the .la files to point to staging/ and not to work/ Mar 18 08:05:54 otherwise you can't have an empty work/ Mar 18 08:06:17 Is it already in ? And what is affected. Mar 18 08:06:30 it's not in yet, it needs some testing Mar 18 08:06:47 koen: I can wait a few days ;-) Mar 18 08:06:47 it will affect every pieve of software that uses libtool in it's buildsystem Mar 18 08:07:13 it's a one line change to base.bbclass, but I don't have the patch here Mar 18 08:08:06 Never mind, I will ask ph5. Tried a first step this morning. New Build dir (collie) with collie as target and linked tmp dir (to c7x0 build tmp)... Mar 18 08:09:11 Was not really successfull. During collie kernel build the system wanted to have c7x0 defconfig and result was put into c7x0 staging dir. Mar 18 08:09:30 Any ideas how to fix that ? I assume thats a stamps / caceh problem Mar 18 08:09:40 did you use multimachine.inc? Mar 18 08:10:01 koen: multimachine.inc ? Whats that (for) Mar 18 08:10:30 to allow building for multiple machines without wiping /tmp Mar 18 08:11:10 koen: Thats nice! How to include that (and where). Local.conf ? Mar 18 08:12:01 include conf/distro/include/multimachine.conf Mar 18 08:12:08 in your $DISTRO.conf Mar 18 08:12:50 koen: you mean in e.g. org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable ? Mar 18 08:12:57 yes Mar 18 08:13:04 although OZ should already have it :) Mar 18 08:13:34 koen: Tried OZ but did have the above mentioned probs. Mar 18 08:14:07 BTW: Is it possible to overwrite a distro / machine config in the builddir/conf dir for example ? Mar 18 08:14:28 s/overwrite/overwrite or extend/ Mar 18 08:14:47 it should be possible Mar 18 08:16:06 koen: You say a builddir/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable.conf would be used instead of org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable.conf ? Mar 18 08:16:30 iirc, yes Mar 18 08:17:14 koen: Thats new for me, but would solve lots of issues I had in the past. Since which version is it in ? Mar 18 08:17:53 ever since BBPATH Mar 18 08:18:06 koen: So I have to modify BBPATH ? Mar 18 08:18:33 no, OE has builddir in by default Mar 18 08:18:47 otherwise builddir/conf/local.conf wouldn't work Mar 18 08:18:56 (which works over here) Mar 18 08:19:26 koen: Thanks so far. Will try to setup unionfs on my box now ... Mar 18 08:20:23 koen: Will let you know, If I had success and insert that into my openembedded doc afterwards Mar 18 08:20:29 ok Mar 18 08:20:59 djeez Mar 18 08:21:05 hh.org mail is down *again* Mar 18 08:21:12 it seems like a weekly theme Mar 18 08:23:31 loen: do have a little bit of you time for gpe-image: http://de.pastebin.ca/46108 Mar 18 08:23:40 s/you/your/ Mar 18 08:23:53 uv1: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/d/ might interest you Mar 18 08:24:19 i have done bitbake keylaunch -- > nothing provides keylaunch Mar 18 08:24:37 oh sorry --> loen --> koen Mar 18 08:24:55 try bitbake -b packages/keylaunch/keylaunch_2.0.10.bb Mar 18 08:25:23 ok Mar 18 08:31:58 koen: there is no file packages/keylaunch/keylaunch_2.0.10.bb, in keylaunch dir the is only a directory called files Mar 18 08:32:45 there is no .bb file in keylaunch dir Mar 18 08:32:58 grma: in that case you need to update your repo :) Mar 18 08:33:15 hi Mar 18 08:33:40 monoton update in keylaunch dir ? Mar 18 08:33:48 hi Mardy Mar 18 08:34:04 grma: any dir, as long as it's below org.openembedded.dev Mar 18 08:34:06 hey Mardy Mar 18 08:34:17 ok Mar 18 08:37:10 koen: how long does a monotoun pull take time ? Mar 18 08:37:24 s/monotoun/monotone Mar 18 08:38:47 grma: depends on the number of changes Mar 18 08:40:31 :-) when there are 5003 revisions nad now 20 are written, i takes very long, correct? :-) is there a faster sollution ? Mar 18 08:40:49 pull more ofter :) Mar 18 08:40:59 :-) Mar 18 08:41:39 note that it doesn't pull down 5003 revisions Mar 18 08:42:16 ahh good, i thought i can go for a beer :-) Mar 18 08:42:30 beer in the morning is cool :-) Mar 18 08:43:05 who finished Mar 18 08:43:47 yeah finished Mar 18 08:49:55 How do I tell OE to use a differen Toolchain in a other directory, for example I want to test if task-bootstrap get build with a ARM-NPTL toolchain? Mar 18 08:50:20 ehm... Mar 18 08:50:28 you'd have to ask kergoth or zecke Mar 18 08:51:00 they are not only? kergoth, zecke ping Mar 18 08:51:09 s/only/online/ Mar 18 08:51:36 sometimes i ask myself what stupid english i write ;-) Mar 18 09:35:40 koen|away: yeah gpe finish, thanks Mar 18 10:15:10 is this a OE error or my error http://de.pastebin.ca/46113 ? Mar 18 10:15:17 please someone can help me ... with org.oe.dev repo is more than aweek i'm not able to build nothing, it stop at building glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3 Mar 18 10:15:27 no one else enconter this problem ? Mar 18 10:45:46 morning all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 18 10:59:56 2006