**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 20 10:59:57 2006
Mar 20 11:00:54 <RP> rwhitby: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html
Mar 20 11:01:20 <rwhitby> RP: thx
Mar 20 11:01:39 <mndctrl> zecke: when creating my Makefile, and using the $(CC) macro, do I need to define this macro, or does oe already have it defined somewhere?
Mar 20 11:02:18 <zecke> it is defined
Mar 20 11:02:28 <mndctrl> ok
Mar 20 11:02:57 <XorA> mndctrl: org.openembedded.dev/packages/vnc/tightvnc/Makefile is a quick Makefile I rolled earlier
Mar 20 11:03:15 <mndctrl> XorA: tnx dude ;)
Mar 20 11:03:48 <XorA> mndctrl: I make no claims on its niceness, but it will compile under OE :-)
Mar 20 11:04:22 <mndctrl> hehe, no problem ;)
Mar 20 11:14:51 <CIA-1> 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra75588bf... 10/packages/vnc/tightvnc/Makefile: 
Mar 20 11:14:52 <CIA-1> packages/vnc/tightvnc/Makefile : remove commented out debug stuff I forgot
Mar 20 11:14:54 <CIA-1> to remove when first submitting.
Mar 20 11:17:07 <greentux> morning
Mar 20 11:25:56 <lrg> morning all
Mar 20 11:27:16 <lrg> ~lart some embedded linux vendors for creating 3 different mx21 2.4 kernel trees and not merging them into 2.6 mainline 
Mar 20 11:27:16 * ibot takes a big bite out of some embedded linux vendors's jugular vein for creating 3 different mx21 2.4 kernel trees and not merging them into 2.6 mainline
Mar 20 11:28:57 * france is away: Away
Mar 20 11:30:35 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rbb8c1e12... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/ (5 files): ixp4xx-kernel: Updated patchset from CVS kernel repo and tweaked for 2.6.16-final
Mar 20 11:30:39 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r83c47df2... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig: ixp4xx-kernel: Updated defconfig from CVS kernel repo - made more things modules
Mar 20 11:30:43 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r135034cf... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Moved to 2.6.16 final
Mar 20 11:33:40 <RP> morning lrg
Mar 20 11:34:07 <lrg> hey Richard
Mar 20 12:07:08 <XorA> linux-libc-header
Mar 20 12:07:10 <XorA> s/linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99/./asm-arch-irqs.patch
Mar 20 12:07:17 <XorA> seems to be missing from repo
Mar 20 12:11:36 <hrw|work> RP: that your 3.5.4.1-alpha are mirrored on ewi?
Mar 20 12:12:51 <hrw|work> RP: if not then I prefer to fetch them to ewi and then we could setup test program
Mar 20 12:13:25 <hrw|work> fetchin..
Mar 20 12:14:36 <pH5> XorA: whoops
Mar 20 12:14:51 <RP> hrw|work: They're not on ewi but feel free to mirror them to there
Mar 20 12:15:06 <hrw|work> RP: mirroring now
Mar 20 12:15:40 <hrw|work> RP: can they be used by users or rather devels only?
Mar 20 12:16:53 <CIA-1> 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r14220362... 10/packages/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99/asm-arch-irqs.patch: linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: add missing asm-arch-irqs.patch
Mar 20 12:17:03 <RP> hrw|work: I'm happy to have some wider testing. If you could test the c7x0 first just to make sure the build machine didn't screw up that would be appreciated though
Mar 20 12:17:35 <hrw|work> RP: left zaurus at home
Mar 20 12:17:35 <RP> hrw|work: They're from the same OE tree but built on a different machine and I haven't had a chance to test those specific images yet
Mar 20 12:17:54 <RP> hrw|work: ok, I'll test the spitz image shortly
Mar 20 12:18:01 <hrw|work> RP: I can try to rebuild them on ewi if needed
Mar 20 12:18:23 <RP> They should be fine, I just want to make sure that box's local.conf was sane :)
Mar 20 12:18:26 <XorA> pH5: cheers
Mar 20 12:21:01 <hrw|work> RP: now question is where to announce them.. oz-devel or oesf forum
Mar 20 12:21:49 <RP> hrw|work: In theory the borzoi images are unneeded as spitz should just work. If someone with a borzoi could confirm that, that would be useful
Mar 20 12:22:40 <RP> hrw|work: It'll be interesting to see the traffic spike when they're announced :)
Mar 20 12:23:17 <hrw|work> RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/traffic_eth0_86400.png one?
Mar 20 12:23:40 <RP> hrw|work: Yes 
Mar 20 12:24:17 <Bernardo> new images?
Mar 20 12:24:27 <hrw|work> Bernardo: 3.5.4.1-alpha1
Mar 20 12:24:31 * Bernardo just looked up from the report he was trying to write...
Mar 20 12:24:46 <Bernardo> does apm now work on the akita?
Mar 20 12:25:09 <hrw|work> Bernardo: test if you can
Mar 20 12:25:25 <RP> Bernardo: Its a 2.6 kernel so things are quite different to 2.4
Mar 20 12:25:40 <Bernardo> RP: cool
Mar 20 12:25:45 <RP> I can't test akita so feedback is useful
Mar 20 12:26:04 <hrw|work> RP: you have c7x0 and spitz?
Mar 20 12:26:10 <Bernardo> too bad I don't have enough bw allocation at work to test it now
Mar 20 12:26:20 <hrw|work> bw?
Mar 20 12:26:21 <Bernardo> I'll dl it tonight
Mar 20 12:26:30 <RP> hrw|work: correct (and spitz = borzoi as far as we're concerned for these images)
Mar 20 12:26:44 <hrw|work> Bernardo: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/ will contain them
Mar 20 12:27:09 <Bernardo> hrw|work: noted
Mar 20 12:27:10 <hrw|work> RP: so we could do 3.5.4.1/images/spitz-borzoi/ dir?
Mar 20 12:27:10 <Bernardo> thanks
Mar 20 12:27:26 <RP> hrw|work: Yes. 
Mar 20 12:27:41 <hrw|work> RP: ok. so 3 machines to release: c7x0, akita, spitz-borzoi
Mar 20 12:28:08 <RP> hrw|work: Yes. If you could remove the borzoi directory on the mirror, that would be appreciated :)
Mar 20 12:28:27 <hrw|work> ok
Mar 20 12:28:34 <hrw|work> RP: I will do spitz-borzoi dir
Mar 20 12:28:40 <RP> hrw|work: thanks
Mar 20 12:35:28 <ade|desk> RP: have you got an Qemu image that i could try to test please, i'm having a go at paul's qop stuff for arm compiled for gcc4, may work , may not
Mar 20 12:38:20 <RP> ade|desk: I can fine something...
Mar 20 12:39:17 <ade|desk> many thanks
Mar 20 12:42:56 <RP> ade|desk: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/qemu/images/
Mar 20 12:43:12 <RP> ade|desk: Try and throttle the download rate a bit please...
Mar 20 12:43:34 <ade|desk> RP: sure np
Mar 20 12:46:23 <chouimat> morning
Mar 20 12:47:50 <ade|desk> lol limited to 10b/sec whoops
Mar 20 12:48:04 <ade|desk> what you you like it limited to rp ?
Mar 20 12:48:55 <RP> ade|desk: That'll take a while :). Its on a 256kbit like so 10-15kbyte/sec or similar would be fine.
Mar 20 12:49:12 <grma> how do i completly clean/redownload/reinstall a package with bitbake ?
Mar 20 12:53:59 <ade|desk> RP: limited to 6k/s, many thanks ... time for lunch 
Mar 20 12:54:43 <RP> zecke: We have a bitbake bug. We don't handle RPROVIDES_${PN} somewhere...
Mar 20 12:54:57 * RP will look into it later
Mar 20 13:03:48 <zecke>  /quit ;)
Mar 20 13:04:06 <zecke> RP: What is that bitbake your constantly talking about?
Mar 20 13:04:43 <hrw|work> RP: mirroring test images looks like good move - I have 30K/s so users fetching would kill that connection
Mar 20 13:05:29 <RP> hrw|work: sam.rpsys.net is connected differently and I can live with that connection more highly loaded. It would kill it though...
Mar 20 13:05:30 <Genesis> i try to use oe i get that : http://pastebin.com/612279
Mar 20 13:06:05 <RP> Genesis: Which monotone version?
Mar 20 13:06:32 <hrw|work> RP: its good to have ewi with no limits
Mar 20 13:06:44 <Genesis> Installed:           0.19
Mar 20 13:06:45 <Genesis> oh
Mar 20 13:06:49 <Genesis> it's too old ?
Mar 20 13:07:03 <RP> Genesis: Way too old. Try 0.24/0.25
Mar 20 13:07:09 <hrw|work> Genesis: atleast 0.24 you need
Mar 20 13:07:16 <Genesis> oki
Mar 20 13:08:01 <Genesis> it 's compiling :)
Mar 20 13:10:00 <hrw|work> RP: how much space 3.5.4.1-alpha occupies?
Mar 20 13:12:37 <hrw|work> RP: bvdd is kind of speedup for pxfba/2.4?
Mar 20 13:12:50 <RP> hrw|work: correct
Mar 20 13:13:33 <hrw|work> RP: how does pxafb/2.6 bench compared to pxafb/2.4 and bvdd/2.4?
Mar 20 13:13:56 <hrw|work> user asked: 'will I be able to get bvdd accellerated mplayer under 3.5.4.1 on a spitz under GPE?'
Mar 20 13:14:28 <RP> There are patches in rmk's queue to add overlay support pxafb so not yet but its coming
Mar 20 13:14:58 <Genesis> yop chouimat :)
Mar 20 13:15:05 <hrw|work> ok
Mar 20 13:15:55 <RP> hrw|work:  341MB 
Mar 20 13:17:04 <zecke> RP: overlay is only implemented on a pxa270 right?
Mar 20 13:17:21 <RP> zecke: correct
Mar 20 13:17:45 <hrw|work> 93M fetched already
Mar 20 13:17:55 <hrw|work> RP: tried those patches on Z?
Mar 20 13:18:13 <RP> hrw|work: no, not enough time :-(
Mar 20 13:18:16 <hrw|work> ok
Mar 20 13:23:35 <zecke> hmm I think I could speed up the python parser as well
Mar 20 13:23:47 <zecke> currently it compiles and executes every function it sees
Mar 20 13:23:51 <zecke> execute is point less
Mar 20 13:24:00 <zecke> and compiling is only there for comfort :}
Mar 20 13:25:32 <RP> zecke: I can image that would help quite a bit :)
Mar 20 13:27:00 <hrw|work> hmm.. 50s parser...
Mar 20 13:28:42 <zecke> hrw|work: on ewi it should be possible
Mar 20 13:29:01 <zecke> RP: they only benefit on compiling everything once is comfort for the user
Mar 20 13:29:41 <zecke> RP: but actually I do not see the point in compiling do_patch over and over again :}
Mar 20 13:36:39 <zecke> hmm
Mar 20 13:44:21 <RP> zecke: I agree it seems a little unneccessary at that stage in the build process
Mar 20 13:44:37 <RP> zecke: Worst case, make it an option...
Mar 20 13:45:30 <zecke> RP: hmm it has an effect, I did not expect that
Mar 20 13:47:21 <RP> zecke: execution of anonymous functions?
Mar 20 13:47:46 <zecke> RP: that is clear
Mar 20 13:56:01 <zecke> that is sick
Mar 20 13:58:47 <RP> zecke: :-/
Mar 20 14:04:32 <zecke> each bbfile can step on each others toe :}
Mar 20 14:04:57 <zecke> RP: you find a function, compile it, and make it 'builtin'
Mar 20 14:21:37 <XorA> did I miss an EABI/gcc 4.1 problem with iptables, mine doesnt compile but I dont remeber seeing any problems
Mar 20 14:23:46 <ade|desk> RP: sod so far no go.. thought qop'ed qemu might work .. but no 
Mar 20 14:25:33 <RP> ade|desk: :-(
Mar 20 14:25:44 <zecke> kergoth: ping
Mar 20 14:26:15 <RP> zecke: When do we get to see the C parser? :)
Mar 20 14:26:25 <zecke> RP: it is in parse/parse_c
Mar 20 14:32:34 * mithro appoligises for not finishing the python binding
Mar 20 14:35:19 <RP> zecke: Looks good :). Gives some interesting errors atm but I have faith :)
Mar 20 14:38:11 <grma> I wanted to finish building opie-image, but without sucess, because it is not possible for me to build Tremor because of svn and proxy ptoblems(I think). So is there a easy sollution how to not include opie-mediaplayer2 in the dependencies ?  
Mar 20 14:41:39 <zecke> grma: ASSUMED_PROVIDED = "opie-mediaplayer2"
Mar 20 14:42:30 <grma> ok thanks
Mar 20 14:42:36 <zecke> +=
Mar 20 14:43:28 <RP> zecke: Won't that still error out when it tried to build the image?
Mar 20 14:44:01 <zecke> RP: psst
Mar 20 14:44:14 <grma> ???
Mar 20 14:44:41 <zecke> grma: edit packages/meta/opie-image.bb
Mar 20 14:44:49 <zecke> grma: or packages/meta/meta-opie.bb
Mar 20 14:45:21 <grma> ok ASSUMED_PROVIDED = "opie-mediaplayer2" that will then not be necessary
Mar 20 14:45:56 <zecke> grma: better is to remove the opie-mediaplayer from one of the above files
Mar 20 14:46:05 <grma> ok
Mar 20 14:47:33 <zecke> mickey|zzZZzz: ping
Mar 20 14:49:28 <zecke> RP: I start to recognize what kergoth wants to change for bitbake2
Mar 20 14:49:33 <hrw|work> RP: 255M fetched...
Mar 20 14:50:06 <grma> in this files no opie-mediaplayer2 found, in task-opie.bb i found it, will remove it and try new
Mar 20 14:50:54 <grma> do i also have to clena the cache ?
Mar 20 14:51:06 <grma> s/clena/clean/
Mar 20 14:51:12 <Genesis> hrw|work, : ?!
Mar 20 14:51:34 <RP> grma: Just bump the PR on task-opie
Mar 20 14:52:49 <grma> RP: I do not understand, waht do you mean ?
Mar 20 14:53:36 <RP> grma: In that file there will be a variable PR="rx". Change it to PR="rx+1"
Mar 20 14:53:40 <Genesis>    5.
Mar 20 14:53:40 <Genesis>       Pull the OpenEmbedded repository from the server.
Mar 20 14:53:40 <Genesis> NOTE: This will take a VERY long time (hours, if not days) when run for the first time.
Mar 20 14:53:46 <Genesis> i confirm :)
Mar 20 14:54:04 <hrw|work> Genesis: ? ?!
Mar 20 14:54:42 <Genesis> it's tOoOOo long ;)
Mar 20 14:55:04 <Genesis> why monotone is so slow ? server connection ? server busy ?
Mar 20 14:55:24 <hrw|work> ~ewi
Mar 20 14:55:26 <ibot> well, ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2
Mar 20 14:55:35 <hrw|work> Genesis: grab snapshot and pull
Mar 20 14:55:57 <Genesis> it's begun
Mar 20 14:56:34 <grma> RP: on my task-opie.bb file PR="r2" not "rx" ?? what should i do ?
Mar 20 14:57:33 <RP> grma: Change it to PR="r3"?
Mar 20 14:57:44 <grma> ok
Mar 20 14:58:02 <zecke> RP: The python funcstions should be 'parsed' by bbclass
Mar 20 14:58:12 <zecke> RP: and then they should be made visible :}
Mar 20 14:58:57 <RP> zecke: That sounds better
Mar 20 15:00:29 <RP> hrw|work: The spitz image appears to work so feel free to unleash the images on some testers
Mar 20 15:01:10 <hrw|work> ok
Mar 20 15:02:24 <RP> As far as I know, there's just sound issues on c7x0 to fix up
Mar 20 15:02:41 <RP> and maybe think about pcmciautils...
Mar 20 15:03:44 <hrw|work> ok. I'll add a readme with it
Mar 20 15:04:23 <hrw|work> ~60M to go
Mar 20 15:05:18 <RP> hrw|work: The sidebar rotation under gpe is also a bit insane and I guess we could fix that - the problem is zaurusd assumes its working with poky
Mar 20 15:06:59 <hrw|work> on my c7x0 it was staying on same side never mind about rotation ;(
Mar 20 15:07:19 <RP> hrw|work: Were you using zaurusd?
Mar 20 15:07:56 <hrw|work> no
Mar 20 15:08:38 <hrw|work> RP: I'm using 3.5.4 for over month now
Mar 20 15:08:42 <RP> hrw|work: It handles this so things should be better in 3.5.4.1 then :)
Mar 20 15:08:45 <hrw|work> and switched to opie
Mar 20 15:09:07 <Genesis> what is poky ?
Mar 20 15:09:15 <Genesis> bonjour alan|home 
Mar 20 15:09:34 <alan|home> salut Genesis 
Mar 20 15:09:56 <alan|home> hi all
Mar 20 15:10:05 <lrg> RP: the new debug code will probably give me a clue on the c7x0 audio issue. I'll wait for XorA to test
Mar 20 15:10:19 <RP> Genesis: http://projects.o-hand.com/poky
Mar 20 15:10:23 <Genesis> thx RP
Mar 20 15:10:43 <RP> lrg: The next ASoC might even fix the problem :)
Mar 20 15:10:51 <lrg> indeed ;)
Mar 20 15:10:59 <XorA> lrg: did I miss a message?
Mar 20 15:11:19 <RP> lrg: I'm aiming to do a kernel update to 2.6.16 tonight and the latest ASoC will be intergrated into that
Mar 20 15:11:43 <lrg> XorA: wrt to the c7x0 audio bug. 
Mar 20 15:11:45 <RP> XorA: Your c7x0 sound issue is showing up in the c7x0 3.5.4.1 images
Mar 20 15:12:13 <XorA> did someone want me to compile a new kernel?
Mar 20 15:12:21 <RP> lrg: The sound on spitz just worked. The ASoC + zaurusd works beautifully :)
Mar 20 15:12:35 <RP> XorA: tomorrow :)
Mar 20 15:13:05 <lrg> RP: excellent, i'll be moving on to the alsa-lib mixer stuff soon, just got tosa touch to fix first
Mar 20 15:15:57 <grma> RP: thanks, opie-image finished - is there a document what discribes what you told me with the PR thing, that I understand why it builded now ?
Mar 20 15:16:10 <ade|desk> RP: i can't even get debian's qem to work with the kernel / initrd.  i wonder where i am going wrong
Mar 20 15:16:34 <RP> ade|desk: Which version of qemu are you using? Latest CVS?
Mar 20 15:16:54 <RP> qemu-arm-system ?
Mar 20 15:17:47 <ade|desk> qemu-arm-system latest in deb sid
Mar 20 15:17:53 <ade|desk> 0.8 i guess
Mar 20 15:18:12 <RP> 0.8 doesn't have framebuffer support
Mar 20 15:19:10 <ade|desk> cvs only then is it
Mar 20 15:19:14 <ade|desk> righty ho
Mar 20 15:19:44 <RP> ade|desk: This is cutting edge ;-)
Mar 20 15:19:48 <Genesis> hehe it seems we try to do the same thing ade|desk 
Mar 20 15:38:59 <hrw|work> RP: finished
Mar 20 15:42:55 <hrw|work> RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/alpha1/README is ok?
Mar 20 15:43:37 <hrw|work> RP: can you share kernel modules packages for 3.5.4.1-alpha1?
Mar 20 15:44:13 <hrw|work> RP: or I can build them from current OE?
Mar 20 15:57:40 <RP> hrw|work: That readme looks fine. Perhaps just add a note about reporting bugs to oz-devel?
Mar 20 15:57:44 <RP> I can share the kernel modules
Mar 20 15:59:47 <hrw|work> ok
Mar 20 16:00:08 <RP> hrw|work: http://sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/3.5.4.1-alpha1/modules/
Mar 20 16:00:39 <hrw|work> RP: updated file
Mar 20 16:01:10 <RP> hrw|work: excellent, thanks :)
Mar 20 16:02:03 <hrw|work> RP: fetching modules
Mar 20 16:02:15 <hrw|work> RP: do I need *_borzoi packages at all?
Mar 20 16:11:16 <hrw|work> fetched
Mar 20 16:12:24 <Genesis> splitted !
Mar 20 16:15:27 <hrw|work> RP: modules fetched, splitted, info added to readme
Mar 20 16:16:05 <RP> hrw|work: I can tell you've done this before :)
Mar 20 16:16:10 * ade|desk does the happy dance :)
Mar 20 16:17:02 <RP> ade|desk: The images booted?
Mar 20 16:17:21 <Genesis> it's booting there
Mar 20 16:17:29 <ade|desk> RP: no not your images due to framebuffer
Mar 20 16:17:53 <ade|desk> but i did get paul brook's limited arm root working on it
Mar 20 16:18:07 <hrw|work> RP: info sent to oz-devel
Mar 20 16:18:48 <RP> ade|desk: Its a first step (I started with that)
Mar 20 16:18:58 <RP> hrw|work: Are we going to mention on the forum as well?
Mar 20 16:19:03 <ade|desk> i am using the qemu with the qop backend and with --disable-gcc-check --disable-gfx-check --target-list=arm-user,arm-softmmu
Mar 20 16:19:21 <ade|desk> its the gcc4 bit that i like
Mar 20 16:19:22 <hrw|work> RP: better yes - otherwise people will start zillion of threads about it
Mar 20 16:20:49 <Genesis> it's long since i don't have kqemu :)
Mar 20 16:21:08 <ade|desk> the qop backend should mean that gcc3 is not required due to the way the code is generated, apparently
Mar 20 16:21:27 <hrw|work> RP: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18353
Mar 20 16:21:59 <Genesis> RP, : x server starts
Mar 20 16:22:49 <ade|desk> RP: where does the sdl bit come in to play, is that on the build box or in OE for native?
Mar 20 16:22:59 <Genesis> i lost my pointer
Mar 20 16:23:13 <RP> ade|desk: On the build box so it can disable the framebuffer
Mar 20 16:23:45 <RP> Genesis: There are issues with the pointer as its built for touchscreens which don't have pointers
Mar 20 16:23:55 <Genesis> oki nevermind
Mar 20 16:24:04 <RP> Genesis: Open a terminal and you'll see it is actually there
Mar 20 16:24:34 <RP> hrw|work: Now I guess we wait for the reaction. Lets hope its favourable :)
Mar 20 16:24:44 <Genesis> yes it works
Mar 20 16:25:52 <RP> ade|desk: s/disable/display/ :-/
Mar 20 16:33:55 <hrw|work> http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0509.2/0072.html - do we have it in 2.6 kernels?
Mar 20 16:35:34 <Genesis> RP, : i think you can post the news ;)
Mar 20 16:35:46 <hrw|work> cu all
Mar 20 16:37:30 <RP> hrw|gone: Not sure - depends if it went into mainline or not....
Mar 20 16:40:29 <RP> Genesis: post what news?
Mar 20 16:43:40 <Genesis> nothing sorr
Mar 20 16:43:51 * XorA is going to be so jealous of spitz/borzoi owner when overlay is working
Mar 20 16:44:01 <Genesis> RP, could you please give your local.conf
Mar 20 16:44:25 <RP> Genesis: I doubt it will help you much as its a total mess
Mar 20 16:44:37 <Genesis> oki
Mar 20 16:44:51 <Genesis> i donno what the pb with my bitbake install 
Mar 20 16:45:42 <Genesis> http://pastebin.com/612620
Mar 20 16:47:07 <RP> Genesis: You did read local.conf when editing it, right?
Mar 20 16:47:39 <Genesis> read all ?!
Mar 20 16:47:41 <Genesis> :]
Mar 20 16:48:26 <RP> Genesis: I really have better things to do with my time that help people with errors becuase they can't read
Mar 20 16:48:45 <Genesis> sorry i read
Mar 20 17:19:36 <Genesis> a+
Mar 20 17:23:03 <mickeyl> cheers
Mar 20 17:23:16 <pb__> hail mickey
Mar 20 17:23:20 <mickeyl> anyone have a c3200 yet?
Mar 20 17:23:51 <mickeyl> hi pb__
Mar 20 17:24:06 <RP> hi mickeyl 
Mar 20 17:24:16 <RP> Do we know the dog name yet?
Mar 20 17:24:40 <mickeyl> no
Mar 20 17:24:55 <mickeyl> nothing known yet
Mar 20 17:47:56 <ade|desk> RP: when did framebuffer bits go into qemu cvs ?
Mar 20 17:48:27 <ade|desk> or another way to put it, do you know which files are touched?
Mar 20 17:48:39 <RP> ade|desk: hw/pl110.c
Mar 20 17:48:52 <ade|desk> great thanks
Mar 20 17:56:08 <ade|desk> well its looks like qemu is running fine with this config , just no display yet .. will add that bit of cvs over the next few days 
Mar 20 18:01:32 <CIA-1> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r09ce4268... 10/packages/konqueror/ (2 files in 2 dirs): konqueror-embedded 20030705: apply patch to make it compile w/ gcc4.x
Mar 20 18:10:22 <ade|desk> wow cvs is naff vs svn
Mar 20 18:11:29 <JustinP> naff?
Mar 20 18:14:35 <mickeyl> mmh
Mar 20 18:14:53 <mickeyl> friend class declarations != forward declarations
Mar 20 18:15:05 <mickeyl> ~lart tiny gcc4 patches
Mar 20 18:15:06 * ibot teaches tiny gcc4 patches that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right.
Mar 20 18:15:06 <ade|desk> naff, not very good
Mar 20 18:19:53 <hrw> hi
Mar 20 18:20:03 <hrw> RP: 10M peak with 3.5.4.1 ;)
Mar 20 18:20:09 <mickeyl> hey hrw
Mar 20 18:20:18 <hrw> http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/traffic_eth0_86400.png - nearly 16M even
Mar 20 18:20:28 <hrw> hi mickeyl 
Mar 20 18:20:49 <hrw> ~hail ewi
Mar 20 18:20:51 * ibot bows down to ewi and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
Mar 20 18:21:23 <hrw> mickeyl: did you tested hostap 0.4.7 on collie or tosa?
Mar 20 18:21:29 <mickeyl> no time yet
Mar 20 18:21:56 <hrw> ok
Mar 20 18:22:10 <hrw> I have 0.4.7 on my collie and they work OK with my dlink
Mar 20 18:22:11 <CIA-1> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * red57cb0b... 10/packages/qpdf2/ (files/gcc4.patch qpdf2_2.2.1.bb): qpdf 2.2.1: add patch to make it compile w/ gcc4
Mar 20 18:22:27 <mickeyl> going through all the ancient source code to make it work w/ gcc4
Mar 20 18:22:29 <mickeyl> sucky work
Mar 20 18:22:45 <hrw> I'm thinking about provide newer hostap for testing after 3.5.4.1
Mar 20 18:22:55 <mickeyl> hrw: can you add a .bb with low default pref ?
Mar 20 18:23:04 <mickeyl> k
Mar 20 18:23:08 <hrw> mickeyl: sure
Mar 20 18:23:13 <mickeyl> cool
Mar 20 18:23:28 <hrw> I have 0.3.10, 0.4.7 and other hostap stuff
Mar 20 18:23:29 <mickeyl> one of these days i'll add dirk's new wlan-ng bb
Mar 20 18:23:35 <hrw> 0.23?
Mar 20 18:23:37 <mickeyl> ya
Mar 20 18:23:41 <mickeyl> ah ... that reminds me
Mar 20 18:23:46 <hrw> give me url so I will add it too
Mar 20 18:23:47 * mickeyl readds do13 key
Mar 20 18:24:03 <hrw> now he can add it too
Mar 20 18:24:04 <mickeyl> hrw: it's on his site, but it has problems he said. need to ask him which exactly
Mar 20 18:24:15 <hrw> ah ok
Mar 20 18:24:25 <mickeyl> works great for tosa/2.6, but apparantly not for 2.4 yet
Mar 20 18:24:41 <mickeyl> NOTE: package opie-image-1.0: completed
Mar 20 18:24:42 <hrw> 2.4 stopped working after last 0.21pre/OE
Mar 20 18:25:11 <hrw> I had 0.22 for 3.5.4-test and had to back to 0.21pre (iirc you tested it)
Mar 20 18:25:22 <mickeyl> right, they broke it in 0.21 final
Mar 20 18:25:26 <mickeyl> i confirmed that
Mar 20 18:25:34 <mickeyl> even worse, they didn't accept my bug report
Mar 20 18:25:40 <hrw> ;(
Mar 20 18:26:02 <hrw> I'm thinking about adding cfxga support into OE - got its driver built
Mar 20 18:26:16 <hrw> even wrote tool for it :D
Mar 20 18:27:49 <mickeyl> cool
Mar 20 18:27:50 <mickeyl> hacker :D
Mar 20 18:27:55 <mickeyl> i want one, too
Mar 20 18:28:04 <mickeyl> but it's sooo expensive
Mar 20 18:28:05 <mickeyl> ridicolous
Mar 20 18:28:10 <mickeyl> ibot: spell ridiculous
Mar 20 18:28:13 <hrw> I want one too 
Mar 20 18:28:13 <ibot> 'ridiculous' may be spelled correctly
Mar 20 18:28:31 <RP> Hmm. I feel an urge to rearrange the OE wiki. Try and get some sanity to the structure...
Mar 20 18:28:31 <hrw> got 480x480 from tosa already
Mar 20 18:28:42 <mickeyl> RP: don't hesitate. that'd rock!
Mar 20 18:28:50 <hrw> RP: it probably need it
Mar 20 18:29:06 * hrw does not edited something since who knows when..
Mar 20 18:30:10 <RP> mickeyl: oecommander no longer exists right?
Mar 20 18:31:19 <mickeyl> RP: more or less, yes. the sources are still somewhere, but since bitbake changed so much it would've needed a rewrite from scratch anyway. I wanted to experiment with bitbake -i to get a feeling how to talk to the bb core and then start with something GUI again
Mar 20 18:32:09 * hrw want cleanonlythisone <name> in bbshell
Mar 20 18:32:17 <ade|desk> night folks
Mar 20 18:32:21 <hrw> n8 ade
Mar 20 18:32:26 <mickeyl> n8 ade|desk
Mar 20 18:32:35 <mickeyl> hrw: add it to bugtracker please. 
Mar 20 18:32:48 <mickeyl> hrw: along with some ideas about what it should d
Mar 20 18:32:48 <mickeyl> o
Mar 20 18:32:52 <RP> mickeyl: That's fine. I'll just remove references to it for now until we have something that works :)
Mar 20 18:32:57 <mickeyl> RP: yep
Mar 20 18:33:08 <hrw> mickeyl: it should workaround new bitbake behaviour
Mar 20 18:33:21 <mickeyl> ah the recursive clean, right?
Mar 20 18:33:23 <hrw> yes
Mar 20 18:33:28 <mickeyl> *nod* that's needed
Mar 20 18:33:58 <hrw> or rather s/clean/recuclean + add clean
Mar 20 18:35:35 * mickeyl needs a PC break
Mar 20 18:35:36 <mickeyl> bbl
Mar 20 19:02:18 <woglinde> hi pb :)
Mar 20 19:03:14 <pb_> yo woglinde 
Mar 20 19:16:19 <chris144> nite folks
Mar 20 19:27:44 <hrw> hostap flood coming
Mar 20 19:27:46 <hrw> re zecke
Mar 20 19:29:12 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra74103e6... 10/packages/hostap/ (3 files): hostap-daemon: create common .inc file to simplify managment
Mar 20 19:29:18 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8a76f603... 10/packages/hostap/ (hostap-utils.inc hostap-utils_0.3.7.bb hostap-utils_0.4.0.bb): hostap-utils: move common part to .inc
Mar 20 19:29:28 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5eb0c344... 10/packages/hostap/hostap-utils_0.4.7.bb: added hostap-utils 0.4.7 (set as not default)
Mar 20 19:29:36 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbcb083a3... 10/packages/hostap/ (15 files in 6 dirs): hostap-daemon: moved repeated patches to hostap-daemon/ dir
Mar 20 19:29:42 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0ec4842f... 10/packages/hostap/ (hostap-daemon_0.4.8.bb hostap-daemon_0.5.1.bb): hostap-daemon: added 0.4.8 (latest stable) and 0.5.1 (latest devel) - both set to non default
Mar 20 19:31:00 <zecke> new releases? is it still not finished
Mar 20 19:32:00 <hrw> I had them all in localtree so maybe someone will find usage for them
Mar 20 19:34:38 <tux1800> Is anybody have built AMD au1200 kernel driver for mae/mai ?
Mar 20 19:35:11 <hrw> maybe cosmicpenguin
Mar 20 19:41:29 <zecke> hey pb_ 
Mar 20 19:41:39 <pb_> hail zecke
Mar 20 19:44:54 <RP> We need to make opie reset the keyboard handler after switching VCs :-/
Mar 20 19:45:11 <zecke> RP: reset?
Mar 20 19:45:43 <RP> zecke: If I switch the keyboard to RAW mode so I can fiddle on a console, opie doesn't appear to switch it back
Mar 20 19:46:19 <zecke> RP: true
Mar 20 19:46:33 <RP> Admittedly I'm using SysRq which is nasty but GPE seems to cope...
Mar 20 19:46:35 <zecke> RP: I have some tasks accumulated for Keyboard Handling
Mar 20 19:46:44 <zecke> RP: QtE vs. X11
Mar 20 19:47:40 <RP> zecke: Its just an observation and nothing more is meant by that comment. I like opie ;-)
Mar 20 19:48:23 <zecke> RP: Opie4 will rock, maybe it is done by 2010
Mar 20 19:48:48 <hrw> zecke: it will use obsolete qt4/x11?
Mar 20 19:49:29 <zecke> RP: QtE keyboard driver needs some love again. e.g. opening eventX, per device keymap, reload keymaps on the fly, more easy switching of the keyboard...
Mar 20 19:50:11 <zecke> hrw: yes, while Qt.NET (on Windows CE Mobile for Mobile Super Double Whopper Edition 20X is the prefered version to use
Mar 20 19:50:39 <zecke> RP: did you actually try to compile the code from parse_c?
Mar 20 19:52:56 <zecke> RP: did you try booting Opie in a qemu image yet?
Mar 20 19:53:03 <RP> zecke: tried, yes. Succeeded, no :-}
Mar 20 19:54:29 <hrw> XorA|gone: gnupg 1.4.2.2 was easy ;)
Mar 20 19:55:01 <zecke> RP: I have no fair ahead (no stuff needs to be prepared) so I might find some time as well
Mar 20 19:55:14 <zecke> RP: did it try to display anything? did qemu crash? kernel oops?
Mar 20 19:55:44 <hrw> mickeyl: hostap cleaned a bit
Mar 20 19:55:48 <greentux> hi rp, hi zecke
Mar 20 19:55:51 <greentux> hi hrw
Mar 20 19:55:53 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r34ff70d5... 10/packages/gnupg/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gnupg: added 1.4.2.2 which contain security fixes: CVE-2006-0049
Mar 20 19:56:00 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb25faf11... 10/packages/gnupg/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gnupg: added 1.4.2.2 which contain security fixes: CVE-2006-0049
Mar 20 19:56:04 <greentux> who can improve some nasty opie things?
Mar 20 19:56:05 <hrw> hi greentux 
Mar 20 19:56:13 <hrw> greentux: define nasty
Mar 20 19:56:25 <greentux> the the last sentences...
Mar 20 19:56:30 <greentux> some keyboard stuff etc
Mar 20 19:56:59 <greentux> my "better" question: is there a activ opie developer here?
Mar 20 19:57:49 <mickeyl> hrw: cool
Mar 20 19:57:55 <zecke> greentux: good question :)
Mar 20 19:58:09 <zecke> greentux: I'm quite active, but not with Opie :}
Mar 20 19:58:28 <hrw> same here
Mar 20 19:58:31 <mickeyl> same here
Mar 20 19:58:41 <greentux> it seems that kernel hacking is more popular :)
Mar 20 19:58:51 <greentux> zecke: you have to finish your study...
Mar 20 19:59:09 <zecke> greentux: true, my profs are on vacation though
Mar 20 19:59:28 <greentux> zecke: how long do you have?
Mar 20 19:59:29 <zecke> mickeyl: which UML tool did you settle on?
Mar 20 19:59:40 <mickeyl> zecke: *cough* visio *cough*
Mar 20 19:59:53 <woglinde> mickeyl baeh
Mar 20 19:59:53 <mickeyl> everything else just annoyed me too much
Mar 20 19:59:57 <zecke> greentux: I have none. since the monday after fosdem I have an intensive course (blockveranstaltung)
Mar 20 20:00:10 <zecke> greentux: and in the beginning of april I have a seminar :}
Mar 20 20:00:11 <RP> zecke: opie boots however it doesn't correctly detect the framebuffer pixel order (it uses RGB instead of BGR) and I can't get it not to display the touchscreen calibration
Mar 20 20:00:17 <RP> hi greentux 
Mar 20 20:00:36 <zecke> mickeyl: how do you 'reimport' classes into it?
Mar 20 20:00:44 <greentux> hi rp
Mar 20 20:00:56 <zecke> RP: do me a favor, ask russell about this RGB thing ;)
Mar 20 20:01:06 <greentux> zecke: in berlin at on of the universities?
Mar 20 20:01:39 <zecke> greentux: yes, "Softwarepraktikum", we are forced to write a VoIP software in Java
Mar 20 20:01:53 <greentux> zecke: uh... in java?
Mar 20 20:02:03 <zecke> greentux: we do everything in Java (teaching wise)
Mar 20 20:02:13 <zecke> greentux: and that Seminar is about static analysis tools
Mar 20 20:02:25 <zecke> greentux: at least my talk is about that topic
Mar 20 20:02:26 <hrw> bbiab
Mar 20 20:03:20 <greentux> zecke: ok, i not understand much of these computer science... 
Mar 20 20:03:31 <zecke> hehe
Mar 20 20:04:04 <RP> zecke: Why, do you think the kernel has its byte ordering wrong?
Mar 20 20:04:06 <zecke> greentux: there is only one thing to know. We try to make it a true science
Mar 20 20:04:14 <zecke> RP: no, QtE is at fault
Mar 20 20:04:30 <zecke> RP: It does not respect the fb_screeninfo (or how this data structure was called)
Mar 20 20:04:42 <zecke> RP: and russell ranted already about that
Mar 20 20:05:18 <RP> zecke: Ah, right. I can understand that :)
Mar 20 20:05:48 <zecke> RP: ah there is a framebuffer
Mar 20 20:05:53 <RP> zecke: I assume there is no easy way to "fix" Qte?
Mar 20 20:05:56 <zecke> Well it smells like RGB 565
Mar 20 20:06:29 <RP> zecke: matchbox was also guilty although the xserver can handle it :)
Mar 20 20:06:57 * zecke writes a opie-destroy-gpe.bb
Mar 20 20:07:10 <zecke> it reimplements every gpe method with ranting :)
Mar 20 20:18:22 <zecke> 21:23 < mickeyl> ~lart python anf?nger writing production systems
Mar 20 20:18:34 <zecke> *petze* or ist that *paetze*?
Mar 20 20:18:41 <mickeyl> heh
Mar 20 20:19:07 <mickeyl> that's like the old cobol veterans
Mar 20 20:19:16 <mickeyl> "we didn't believe that code would still be used"
Mar 20 20:19:55 <hrw> how do you feel: new stuff packages should go into feed/(base|opie|x11) or into feed/upgrades?
Mar 20 20:20:05 <zecke> mickeyl: at the first Anual European OE Conference I will make Schurig say that
Mar 20 20:20:19 <mickeyl> hrw: upgrades. makes it somehow clear that it didn't come from the initial world build
Mar 20 20:20:22 <mickeyl> zecke: heh, yeah
Mar 20 20:20:50 <zecke> mickeyl: we imagined GNU would be done by the time OE reached 1000 packages
Mar 20 20:20:55 <pb_> zecke: yay, we like ranting
Mar 20 20:21:06 <zecke> mickeyl: and that we would have a micro kernel architecture of bitbake running
Mar 20 20:21:10 <zecke> due the power of GNU
Mar 20 20:22:08 <mickeyl> hmm
Mar 20 20:22:16 <mickeyl> angstrom-opie-image doesn't get over
Mar 20 20:22:21 <mickeyl> "Freeing init memory: 76K"
Mar 20 20:22:36 <hrw> mickeyl: you need 2.6.16/eabi kernel
Mar 20 20:22:45 <mickeyl> hmm
Mar 20 20:22:50 <mickeyl> isn't that the default?
Mar 20 20:22:54 <mickeyl> for angstrom-2006.9 ?
Mar 20 20:23:11 <hrw> mickeyl: 2.6.15 does not have all eabi or does not have it in defconfig
Mar 20 20:23:36 <RP> I'll be sorting 2.6.16 out shortly...
Mar 20 20:24:00 <mickeyl> RP: ok, cool
Mar 20 20:25:27 * mickeyl does the battery thing
Mar 20 20:26:05 <mickeyl> btw., it looks kind of frightening that the mail LED glims while SD is mounting
Mar 20 20:26:15 <mickeyl> what's it doing at that moment?
Mar 20 20:27:05 <incinerator> hi folks, I just installed openzaurus-3.5.4-opie on my 860, looks great so far, one question:
Mar 20 20:27:22 <incinerator> how can i change the keymap to german? i tried installing zkbapplet but that didn't do the trick for me...
Mar 20 20:27:39 <hrw> RP: want to have collie?
Mar 20 20:27:41 <mickeyl> unfortunately we don't have a GUI for that yet
Mar 20 20:27:49 <mickeyl> need to do it via loadkeys or so
Mar 20 20:28:00 <hrw> I just got mail from user which want to donate collie
Mar 20 20:28:09 <incinerator> replacing /etc/keymap-2.6-map with a symlink to somwhere perhaps?
Mar 20 20:28:16 <hrw> incinerator: look at keymap-locales package
Mar 20 20:28:33 <incinerator> hrw, will do, thanks
Mar 20 20:28:55 <hrw> incinerator: iirc it contain german extension
Mar 20 20:29:02 <hrw> ~hail coredump for keymap-locales
Mar 20 20:29:04 * ibot bows down to coredump for keymap-locales and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
Mar 20 20:29:11 <incinerator> cool, easy umlauts is all i need...
Mar 20 20:29:49 * zecke needs to open a School of Hacking
Mar 20 20:31:27 <mickeyl> pH5: ping
Mar 20 20:32:47 <hrw> heh.. when I do NMU to update package I should drop MAINTAINER or not?
Mar 20 20:32:58 <mickeyl> if he's MIA yeah
Mar 20 20:33:03 <mickeyl> otherwise... depends
Mar 20 20:33:05 <mickeyl> who is it?
Mar 20 20:33:10 <hrw> kergoth: are you MIA?
Mar 20 20:33:18 <hrw> rsync 2.6.7 (kergoth)
Mar 20 20:33:20 <mickeyl> heh, oe-wise kergoth is definitly MIA
Mar 20 20:33:46 <hrw> gnupg 1.4.2.2 (someone who I dont recognize - Pawel Osiczko)
Mar 20 20:34:27 <hrw> all: someone want collie?
Mar 20 20:35:21 <zecke> hrw: do you want mine :)
Mar 20 20:35:32 <zecke> hrw: do13 might have interest
Mar 20 20:36:14 <hrw> zecke: he does not have it?
Mar 20 20:36:59 <pH5> mickeyl: pong
Mar 20 20:36:59 <zecke> hrw: at the airport we (mickeyl,do13,me) talked about getting him another device in the summer :}
Mar 20 20:37:04 <mickeyl> pH5: can I do a next kernel header patch request, please? :)
Mar 20 20:37:15 <pH5> heh, of course
Mar 20 20:37:17 <mickeyl> pH5: | /oe/c7x0/tmp/staging/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ip_conntrack_tuple.h:93: error: nested redefinition of 'enum ip_conntrack_dir'
Mar 20 20:37:31 <mickeyl> while trying to build gpe-image-->iptables-1.3.3-r3
Mar 20 20:37:38 <hrw> sent note to gnupg maintainer
Mar 20 20:37:53 <mickeyl> hrw: hmm.. Pawel... he was there in the early OE days
Mar 20 20:38:05 <mickeyl> hrw: definitly MIA
Mar 20 20:38:27 <mickeyl> he had that fancy URL
Mar 20 20:38:29 <mickeyl> tetrapyloctomy.org or so
Mar 20 20:38:36 <mickeyl> (MIA as well, btw.)
Mar 20 20:38:37 <hrw> mickeyl: sent him note - if he want to be removed then I will remove it
Mar 20 20:39:46 <hrw> ;(
Mar 20 20:42:59 <zecke> I need a brave tester!
Mar 20 20:43:13 <incinerator> hrw: keymap-locales did the trick, works fine now, thx a lot
Mar 20 20:43:32 <incinerator> finally , no more cacko for me ggg
Mar 20 20:43:40 <mickeyl> good choice
Mar 20 20:43:46 <zecke> incinerator: do you work on dapper?
Mar 20 20:44:13 <incinerator> a wee bit, just some laptop testing
Mar 20 20:44:22 <incinerator> no real coding or whatever...
Mar 20 20:44:56 <incinerator> can't install the latest flight-5 though, boot-cd menu freezes directly after printing the logo....
Mar 20 20:45:22 <incinerator> but i digresss
Mar 20 20:46:15 <hrw> Dirk: hi
Mar 20 20:46:21 <hrw> do13: wanna collie?
Mar 20 20:46:23 <incinerator> hmmm, OK key isn't fixed yet?
Mar 20 20:46:29 <do13> hi Marcin
Mar 20 20:46:38 * mickeyl welcomes do13
Mar 20 20:46:47 <do13> hi mickey
Mar 20 20:47:01 <do13> hrw: I have a collie:)
Mar 20 20:47:17 <hrw> hm
Mar 20 20:47:26 <hrw> RP: you do not have a collie
Mar 20 20:47:36 <mickeyl> is that a question or a statement?
Mar 20 20:47:37 * mickeyl grins
Mar 20 20:47:59 <hrw> both
Mar 20 20:48:16 <mickeyl> hehe
Mar 20 20:48:24 * mickeyl in a totally unappropriate good mood tonite
Mar 20 20:49:20 <zecke> hmm no one wants to test a patch that could dramatically reduce the parsing time for the python parser?
Mar 20 20:49:32 <do13> hrw: I found another toy: http://www.zenega-user.de/wiki/index.php/Hauptseite (sorry only german)
Mar 20 20:50:22 <hrw> do13: nice toy
Mar 20 20:50:28 <RP> hrw: I have a Sl-5000
Mar 20 20:50:40 <JustinP> zecke: ?
Mar 20 20:50:52 <hrw> so noone wants a collie
Mar 20 20:51:13 <RP> hrw: I worry I wouldn't have the time to do it justice :-/
Mar 20 20:51:16 <zecke> JustinP: in the quest through the python parser implementation
Mar 20 20:51:31 <zecke> I was schocked to see some code :}
Mar 20 20:51:54 <mickeyl> do13: looks pretty cool. is that thing running linux?
Mar 20 20:52:27 <do13> mickeyl: http://www.zenega-user.de/wiki/index.php/Linux_allgemein_%28Intel-Board%29
Mar 20 20:52:57 <mickeyl> heh, cool!
Mar 20 20:53:22 <RP> mickeyl: Which device was the mail light flickering on when mounting SD?
Mar 20 20:53:57 <mickeyl> RP: my shepherd. it looked pretty scary, because it was like 35% duty level
Mar 20 20:54:03 <mickeyl> never seen that before
Mar 20 20:55:28 <JustinP> zecke: go on.....
Mar 20 20:57:40 <RP> mickeyl: Strange. Perhaps your jffs2 root decided that was a good time to erase some flash blocks? :-/
Mar 20 20:58:03 <hrw> jffs2 cached some sd data 
Mar 20 20:58:41 <greentux> RP: do you had time to check the bluetooth card?
Mar 20 20:59:10 <RP> greentux: Having spent half of last week in Finaland, no, sorry
Mar 20 20:59:11 <greentux> RP: did you have... sorry is late
Mar 20 20:59:25 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r20e070af... 10/packages/gnupg/ (5 files): 
Mar 20 20:59:25 <CIA-1> gnupg: Maintainer is MIA - removed
Mar 20 20:59:27 <CIA-1> - removed all <1.4.2.2 versions
Mar 20 20:59:29 <mickeyl> RP: heh
Mar 20 20:59:38 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r03a583e8... 10/packages/gnupg/ (gnupg2.inc gnupg2_1.9.15.bb): gnupg2: maintainer is MIA
Mar 20 20:59:43 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r2d39ef9b... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen: set me as maintaner
Mar 20 20:59:52 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc327a6f4... 10/packages/rsync/rsync_2.6.7.bb: rsync: removed maintainer (it was Kergoth)
Mar 20 20:59:59 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rcf950a16... 10/packages/gnupg/ (gnupg2.inc gnupg2_1.9.15.bb): gnupg2: maintainer is MIA
Mar 20 21:00:09 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2108e705... 10/packages/gnupg/ (5 files): 
Mar 20 21:00:12 <CIA-1> gnupg: maintainer is MIA
Mar 20 21:00:14 <CIA-1> - removed all version <1.4.2.2 due to security errors
Mar 20 21:00:19 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r20c4002e... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen: set me as maintaner
Mar 20 21:00:27 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ra64c6c51... 10/packages/rsync/rsync_2.6.7.bb: rsync: removed maintainer (it was Kergoth)
Mar 20 21:01:06 <hrw> CIA-1: you flooder
Mar 20 21:01:36 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * raddd69b7... 10/packages/zbedic/ (libbedic_0.9.6.bb zbedic_0.9.6.bb): zbedic: set me as maintainer (as it was discussed with previous maintainer)
Mar 20 21:01:41 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r497566e5... 10/packages/zbedic/ (libbedic_0.9.6.bb zbedic_0.9.6.bb): zbedic: set me as maintainer (as it was discussed with previous maintainer)
Mar 20 21:03:58 <JustinP> geez....
Mar 20 21:04:20 <zecke> unbelievable
Mar 20 21:06:13 <pb_> heh, since when is "it was Kergoth" a suitable justification for removing a maintainer field?
Mar 20 21:06:36 <hrw> 20 21:38 < hrw> rsync 2.6.7 (kergoth)
Mar 20 21:06:36 <hrw> 20 21:38 < mickeyl> heh, oe-wise kergoth is definitly MIA
Mar 20 21:07:07 <hrw> and iirc we had a discussion that NMU drop maintainer?
Mar 20 21:07:36 <mickeyl> i think it's in his sense to remove him until he's back on duty
Mar 20 21:08:00 <zecke> pb_: hehe
Mar 20 21:08:06 <pb_> hrw: depends who you mean by "we".  I don't think I had that discussion.
Mar 20 21:08:16 <pb_> mickeyl: mm, fair enough.
Mar 20 21:08:18 <pb_> poor kergoth
Mar 20 21:08:34 <mickeyl> besides.... like you he doesn't even has a commit access :D
Mar 20 21:08:39 <mickeyl> s/a//
Mar 20 21:08:51 <pb_> hehe, true enough
Mar 20 21:08:52 <zecke> which should change immediately
Mar 20 21:09:01 <pb_> I see I was deposed as MAINTAINER of glibc as well :-}
Mar 20 21:09:07 <hrw> ;))
Mar 20 21:09:08 <mickeyl> which is a shame....
Mar 20 21:09:12 <mickeyl> but let's wait for mt 0.26
Mar 20 21:09:15 * zecke fits this alpha jtag on pb_'s head
Mar 20 21:09:35 <hrw> need to build gnumeric and abiword...
Mar 20 21:12:30 <hrw> NOTE: Fetch cvs://anonymous@cvs.sf.net/cvsroot/bedic;module=libbedic;tag=1_0rc1
Mar 20 21:12:30 <hrw> cvs [checkout aborted]: Numeric tag 1_0rc1 contains characters other than digits and '.'
Mar 20 21:12:34 <hrw> ;(
Mar 20 21:12:49 <pH5> I hate linux kernel headers.
Mar 20 21:17:15 <CIA-1> 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1012ef3e... 10/packages/linux-libc-headers/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99: now with iptables support
Mar 20 21:18:11 <mickeyl> ~praise pH5
Mar 20 21:18:12 <ibot> All hail pH5!
Mar 20 21:25:07 <JustinP> zecke: I still don't know what you're talkign about in the parser....
Mar 20 21:25:30 <mickeyl> zecke: send JustinP your experimental patch
Mar 20 21:27:00 <RP> I patched bitbake to fix an annoying issue with RPROVIDES_${PN} handling btw so svn up might fix some issues people were seeing
Mar 20 21:27:23 <mickeyl> aah
Mar 20 21:27:30 <mickeyl> btw., i wonder why the trigger no longer works
Mar 20 21:27:35 <mickeyl> i never see any bitbake commit messages
Mar 20 21:27:36 <RP> The bug was spotted by someone at OH seeing gconf-dbus build, then gconf
Mar 20 21:27:54 <RP> mickeyl: Good question - I'm not familar with that voodoo...
Mar 20 21:30:05 <RP> I've made some updates to the OE wiki front page which should make it more readable and let people find things easier
Mar 20 21:30:21 <RP> I guess I should mention it on oe@
Mar 20 21:31:18 <mickeyl> yeah, that'd nice
Mar 20 21:31:20 <zecke> mickeyl: well, find out where my method is stored :}
Mar 20 21:31:47 <zecke> Yes we need to phrase our message to the outside more clearly
Mar 20 21:31:58 <hrw> RP: nice work
Mar 20 21:32:25 <mickeyl> zecke: bitbake module?
Mar 20 21:32:31 <mickeyl> or package scope
Mar 20 21:33:13 <zecke> mickeyl: __builtins__
Mar 20 21:33:24 <zecke> mickeyl: I want to compile and exec every method only once :}
Mar 20 21:36:33 <mickey|bbl> excellent!
Mar 20 21:36:51 <zecke> mickey|bbl: my check for the 'already' compiled fails though
Mar 20 21:39:09 <pb_> zecke: oh, that's an interesting idea.  How long does the compiling take?
Mar 20 21:39:23 <zecke> pb_: I try to find that out
Mar 20 21:39:43 <zecke> food :}
Mar 20 21:39:55 <pb_> enjoy
Mar 20 21:48:58 <RP> hrw: Have we had many downloads yet?
Mar 20 21:50:36 <hrw> RP: 16M peak
Mar 20 21:50:47 <hrw> RP: its larger then 3.5.4 release got
Mar 20 21:50:52 <zecke> JustinP: I'm still hacking
Mar 20 21:50:54 <hrw> 16M/s
Mar 20 21:51:06 <hrw> RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/traffic_eth0_86400.png
Mar 20 21:51:11 <zecke> JustinP: I'm integrating a C++ parser for bitbake
Mar 20 21:51:24 <zecke> JustinP: and I have found a possible speed issue with parse_py
Mar 20 21:53:08 <RP> hrw: Of course 3.5.4.1 couldn't have happened without 3.5.4 setting the stage :)
Mar 20 21:53:22 <hrw> RP: ;)
Mar 20 21:53:22 <RP> I'm curious for feedback :)
Mar 20 21:53:28 <hrw> me too
Mar 20 21:57:21 <zecke> JustinP: and I'm currently trying to get around it
Mar 20 21:59:29 <RP> Hmmm. collections look broken for some weird corner cases :-/.
Mar 20 22:10:24 <hrw> cu all
Mar 20 22:11:03 <zecke> RP: hmm
Mar 20 22:11:09 <zecke> RP: crate a test case :)
Mar 20 22:18:03 <zecke> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/patches/xorg-server-1.0.1-geteuid.diff
Mar 20 22:18:05 <zecke> ouch
Mar 20 22:19:30 <woglinde> zecke *g*
Mar 20 22:21:44 <zecke> woglinde: static analysis
Mar 20 22:22:15 <woglinde> *g* finbugs for c?
Mar 20 22:23:00 <zecke> woglinde: no, a different class 
Mar 20 22:23:14 <zecke> woglinde: probably the best tool available
Mar 20 22:27:15 <Zero_Chaos> what is the code name for C1000?
Mar 20 22:27:38 <JustinP> akita
Mar 20 22:27:45 <Zero_Chaos> JustinP: thanks.
Mar 20 22:27:55 <Zero_Chaos> How is the work on akita support coming?
Mar 20 22:30:40 <JustinP> works well, IIRC
Mar 20 22:30:55 <JustinP> 2.5 kernel is coming along nicely thanks to RP
Mar 20 22:30:56 <JustinP> 2.6
Mar 20 22:33:31 <Zero_Chaos> cool
Mar 20 22:33:43 <Zero_Chaos> I really want one, but I know it's not quite ready yet (so I hear)
Mar 20 22:38:33 <JustinP> it's usable now, but we want it to be smooth :-)
Mar 20 22:39:26 <polyonymous> Do you think it's right that one can't uninstall, say, sokoban without using force?
Mar 20 22:41:07 <zecke> polyonymous: that is a distribution decision :)
Mar 20 22:41:21 <zecke> polyonymous: but generally I agree that such software should be removable
Mar 20 22:41:35 <polyonymous> Actually, I think all software should be removable :)
Mar 20 22:41:44 <zecke> -force
Mar 20 22:41:54 <polyonymous> Maybe it would make sense to avoid task-stuff?
Mar 20 22:42:08 <polyonymous> Well, without force :)
Mar 20 22:42:19 <zecke> polyonymous: safely remove libc?
Mar 20 22:42:32 <polyonymous> zecke, not safely. Just removable :)
Mar 20 22:42:51 <polyonymous> you can't safely remove task-* and dependencies, anyway.
Mar 20 22:43:08 <zecke> polyonymous: I tend to disagree, your behaviour could be reached by enabling -force by default
Mar 20 22:43:18 <zecke> polyonymous: but for the task-* packages I agree
Mar 20 22:43:37 <polyonymous> wrong. This way you'd get warned if you remove libc because tons of stuff depends on it.
Mar 20 22:43:53 <polyonymous> So it's not like enabling -force by default.
Mar 20 22:44:07 <polyonymous> I'm talking exactly about the things you seem to agree with me on :
Mar 20 22:47:15 <zecke> hmm I don't understand this bottleneck :}
Mar 20 22:48:09 <polyonymous> Well, I think that software should be removable, but dependencies should be tracked. task's dependencies do not make enough sense.
Mar 20 22:48:35 <polyonymous> I think we're in agreement here and just trying to sort out the way we state our opinions.
Mar 20 22:48:40 <JustinP> yeah, the task stuff is somewhat annoying if you want to nuinstall anything...
Mar 20 22:49:54 <polyonymous> And no sane person will want to keep everything :)
Mar 20 22:50:02 <JustinP> heh
Mar 20 22:50:24 <JustinP> you could just uninstall the task packages....
Mar 20 22:50:56 <polyonymous> JustinP, wouldn't it complain later on?
Mar 20 22:51:18 <JustinP> about?
Mar 20 22:51:24 <polyonymous> well, it it won't, isn't it the right thing to do while building an image?
Mar 20 22:51:44 <JustinP> huh?
Mar 20 22:52:07 <JustinP> the task packages are just meta packages to ease installation
Mar 20 22:52:12 <polyonymous> JustinP, Well, uninstall task packages before deploying an image.
Mar 20 22:52:19 <JustinP> IMHO they have no real utility beyond that
Mar 20 22:52:28 <JustinP> oh, you mean as part of the image process?
Mar 20 22:52:29 <polyonymous> Yes, that's what I think.
Mar 20 22:52:32 <polyonymous> Yes.
Mar 20 22:52:35 <JustinP> well...some people might want them there...
Mar 20 22:52:39 <JustinP> it's a distro decision...
Mar 20 22:52:44 <JustinP> you mught bring this up on the mailing list
Mar 20 22:53:07 <polyonymous> Well, I just suggest. It's not a major problem, but I felt obliged to suggest.
Mar 20 22:53:38 <JustinP> bring it up on the ML, see what people say
Mar 20 22:53:49 <pb_> If you can't uninstall sokoban without --force, that is (shock horror) a bug in the task package that depends on sokoban.  It ought only to Recommend it.
Mar 20 22:54:27 <polyonymous> pb_, would it ease the installation if it only recommends it? 
Mar 20 22:54:32 <pb_> Uninstalling the task packages during image construction definitely isn't the right answer, since that would break upgrades.
Mar 20 22:54:35 <polyonymous> I'm not an ipkg expert, I have to admit.
Mar 20 22:54:51 <polyonymous> Ah, so it also makes sense for upgrades...
Mar 20 22:54:53 <pb_> polyonymous: I don't understand the question.  What problem are you having with installation?
Mar 20 22:55:40 <polyonymous> pb_, I wouldn't say that I have a problem, but I think what you've said about recommending and the bug in task packages does apply to the situation.
Mar 20 22:56:53 <polyonymous> pb_, ~ # ipkg remove opie-tictac leads to "Package opie-tictac is depended upon by packages: task-opie-extra-games"
Mar 20 22:57:31 <pb_> That might be a bug in task-opie-extra-games, depending on how vital opie-tictac actually is.
Mar 20 22:58:11 <polyonymous> pb_, I doubt it is that vital...
Mar 20 22:58:23 <ljp> oh, opie-tictac is very vital!
Mar 20 22:59:08 <polyonymous> But I bet opie-tetrix is not half as vital as opie-tictac!
Mar 20 23:15:46 <pb_> g'day ljp
Mar 20 23:33:18 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra7a59b39... 10/.mt-attrs: .mt-attr: removed missing file packages/hostap/hostap-daemon-0.3.7/init
Mar 20 23:33:34 <CIA-1> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd6ae2145... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/ (5 files): ixp4xx-kernel: Added missing patches
Mar 21 00:08:45 <RP> Zero_Chaos: You might want to consider testing OZ 3.5.4.1 on akita to see how the 2.6 kernel stacks up
Mar 21 00:09:13 <Zero_Chaos> RP: I will do that, as soon as I have a new job, sell my car, and buy an akita.
Mar 21 00:13:15 <CIA-1> 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2fd623e8... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/ (gpe-bootsplash-theme-e.bb gpe-bootsplash-theme-opie.bb): gpe-bootsplash-themes: add FIXMEs and fix SRC_URI for theme-e (file+wildcards is problematic)
Mar 21 00:14:09 <RP> Zero_Chaos: Ah, sorry, I thought you were asking questions for a different reason
Mar 21 00:14:43 <Zero_Chaos> RP: I'm asking questions because I have a collie, and I want something with more kick. :-)
Mar 21 00:15:02 <zecke> RP: I don't get where the bottle neck is in python
Mar 21 00:15:14 <zecke> RP: it is not what I would have expected :}
Mar 21 00:22:06 <RP> zecke: I can't claim to have looked into it in detail
Mar 21 00:22:36 <RP> zecke: I do sometimes wonder if the cache works properly though as parsing with the cache never seems as fast as it could be...
Mar 21 00:23:16 <CIA-1> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb08f6373... 10/packages/opensync/syncml-client_0.1.bb: syncml-client: Add version 0.1.
Mar 21 00:27:55 <zecke> hmm
Mar 21 00:27:56 <zecke> cya
Mar 21 00:28:04 <zecke> RP: we could cache a lot more
Mar 21 00:28:32 <RP> zecke: making the parser faster as a whole would still be the better goal IMO :)
Mar 21 00:29:02 <zecke> RP: I'm currently not too sure that the parser is the bottle neck
Mar 21 00:29:13 <zecke> I will look into the profile tomorrow...
Mar 21 00:29:17 <zecke> it is still loading
Mar 21 00:29:19 <zecke> cya
Mar 21 00:30:50 <Zero_Chaos> the monotone repository is like a darn hydra
Mar 21 00:30:52 <Zero_Chaos> monotone: multiple update candidates:
Mar 21 00:30:52 <Zero_Chaos> monotone:   61685483d439c8fa8ae72f891a69b446c143d5a7 mickeyl@openembedded.org 2006-03-21T00:16:38
Mar 21 00:30:55 <Zero_Chaos> monotone:   b08f63739476538bba8a26df42863f10c88eb335 florian@openembedded.org 2006-03-21T00:23:54
Mar 21 00:31:02 <Zero_Chaos> cut off a head, and a new one grows back
Mar 21 00:33:14 * njs needs to think of a mythological creature with multiple heads that _isn't_ evil :-)
Mar 21 00:33:38 <JustinP> heh
Mar 21 00:33:46 <Zero_Chaos> njs: if you think of one, you won't be able to compare it to monotone.... so what's the point :-)
Mar 21 00:33:52 <JustinP> Zero_Chaos: just choose one for now
Mar 21 00:34:03 <JustinP> Zero_Chaos: monotone/hydra isn't evil
Mar 21 00:34:19 <Zero_Chaos> JustinP: I'll do nothing of the sort, I'll politely wait for it to be fixed.
Mar 21 00:34:24 * Zero_Chaos twiddles his thumbs....
Mar 21 00:35:27 <Zero_Chaos> JustinP: I know, I am not a developer, I only use monotone to pull updates, if you all like it, whatever, none of my concern. I will get me another one of those people that mentions multiple heads :-) unless you all prefer that I don't report.
Mar 21 00:36:05 <njs> Zero_Chaos: "just choose one" = "acting exactly like CVS and every other system out there", so I'm not sure why it's such a thing to be avoided :-)
Mar 21 00:37:00 <Zero_Chaos> njs: it's all good in the hood :-) I don't really care, doesn't bother me.  It's not my project, I just wait a bit and pull again.  I just like to mention it when I see it.
Mar 21 00:39:19 <JustinP> it *should* be fixed, someone just needs to do it....
Mar 21 00:40:51 <RP> I'm pulling atm and have a commit to make shortly...
Mar 21 00:41:15 <njs> Zero_Chaos: sure.  just saying, there's really no reason to bother waiting, if you just pick one randomly you'll get exactly the same results as you do on every other project that doesn't use monotone.  so might as well, instead of wasting your time waiting :-)
Mar 21 00:41:33 * Zero_Chaos wouldn't even know how to pick one....
Mar 21 00:43:40 <njs> neither does CVS, it just picks the one with the earlier date :-)  it just hides the other one from even being visible, so you don't realize that you're making an arbitrary choice.
Mar 21 00:45:18 <RP> merged btw...
Mar 21 01:04:37 <JustinP> Zero_Chaos: monotone up -rREVID
Mar 21 01:11:31 <CIA-1> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r2e78c634... 10/packages/linux/ (12 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Add 2.6.16 kernel (tested on c7x0 and spitz)
Mar 21 01:15:30 <RP> 'night all
Mar 21 01:15:51 <NAbyss> Seeyas
Mar 21 01:37:10 * france is back (gone 14:08:17)
Mar 21 03:19:47 <chouimat|Zzzz> night
Mar 21 03:39:33 <jnc> mickey|zzZZzz: i may buy a c3200
Mar 21 03:41:03 <jnc> it's kind of expensive though
Mar 21 03:42:02 <JustinP> 32?
Mar 21 03:43:41 <jnc> yeah
Mar 21 03:43:50 <jnc> $700usd
Mar 21 03:44:09 <jnc> that's about $400 more than i want to spend
Mar 21 03:45:58 <NAbyss> jnc: What's new with the 3200?
Mar 21 03:46:11 <jnc> nothing interesting
Mar 21 03:46:20 <jnc> 6gb hard drive
Mar 21 03:46:39 <jnc> at that rate, i would pop for the SL-6000w
Mar 21 03:46:45 <jnc> with bt and wifi
Mar 21 03:46:53 <JustinP> if you can find one
Mar 21 03:47:04 <jnc> they are easy to buy now
Mar 21 03:53:30 <jnc> http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/product.php?productid=148&cat=2&page=1
Mar 21 03:55:24 * JustinP whistles
Mar 21 03:55:32 <JustinP> $850.99
Mar 21 03:56:01 <JustinP> I wouldn't mind one, but geez....that's not worth is when you could have a bigger keyboard, protected screen, and a large HD..
Mar 21 03:56:06 <JustinP> for less
Mar 21 03:57:49 <jnc> yeah
Mar 21 06:52:03 <grma> Good Morning!
Mar 21 07:31:12 <hrw> hi
Mar 21 07:31:17 <hrw> ~seen hrw|gone
Mar 21 07:31:22 <ibot> hrw|gone <n=hrw@host-ip170-158.crowley.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 1d 13h 39m 54s ago, saying: 'ok. now I'm gone'.
Mar 21 08:03:31 <Genesis> yo
Mar 21 08:22:57 <Mardy> hi all
Mar 21 08:23:36 <Genesis> hi mardy
Mar 21 08:38:31 <hrw> hi
Mar 21 08:41:15 <RP> oyz
Mar 21 08:41:21 <RP> morning all even :)
Mar 21 08:45:01 <XorA> morning
Mar 21 08:45:15 <RP> morning XorA 
Mar 21 08:45:24 <XorA> RP: that me kernel ready?
Mar 21 08:46:21 <RP> XorA: I pushed a 2.6.16 kernel. Sound on the c7x0 on the c7x0 is still suffering problems. I think Liam said you could add #define DEBUG 1 to a couple of the ASoC files to get more interesting debug info which may be an idea
Mar 21 08:47:02 <RP> XorA: Getting the sound on c7x0 is probably a blocking issue for 3.5.4.1
Mar 21 08:47:26 <RP> Sound is there but key taps aren't working for example (they work on spitz)
Mar 21 08:57:48 <XorA> RP: ok, I should try that tomorrow, I need my Z working tonight so I am loath to flash
Mar 21 08:58:12 <XorA> RP: good thing is liam is only 10 mins down road from me so we can get a c7x0 to him for testing
Mar 21 09:01:19 <hrw|work> Collie touchscreen now works: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/17784.html
Mar 21 09:03:17 <do13> morning all
Mar 21 09:03:51 <hrw|work> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4392038828.html
Mar 21 09:03:54 <hrw|work> YES!
Mar 21 09:04:34 <hrw|work> OZ 3.5.4 on linuxdevices 
Mar 21 09:08:27 <hrw|work> JustinP: ping
Mar 21 09:08:30 <hrw|work> hi Dirk
Mar 21 09:08:55 <do13> hi Marcin
Mar 21 09:10:05 <hrw|work> JustinP: sent you cc: of e17 problem
Mar 21 09:10:07 <hrw|work> hi Zero_Chaos 
Mar 21 09:10:10 <hrw|work> zecke: hi
Mar 21 09:11:33 <zecke> hey
Mar 21 09:11:35 <zecke> do13: hey
Mar 21 09:11:43 <do13> hey zecke
Mar 21 09:11:58 <zecke> do13: have you seen the Keyboard 'Bug' on oe@hh.org
Mar 21 09:12:12 <zecke> do13: for a user pressing Fn - Num makes the keyboard unusable in Opie
Mar 21 09:12:13 <RP> XorA: np. I might also try and look into the sound problem at some point - just a question of time
Mar 21 09:12:28 <RP> hrw|work: Good news about the touchscreen - Pavel said he was going to look at it
Mar 21 09:12:34 <zecke> do13: I suspect it to be a bug in my QtE keyboard driver, if I send you patch could you try compiling a package?
Mar 21 09:12:43 <do13> zecke: I read the mail, but haven't checked this
Mar 21 09:12:50 <zecke> RP: hrw|work : who is Pavel talking with?
Mar 21 09:13:00 <hrw|work> zecke: Pavel Machek - collie 2.6 hacker
Mar 21 09:13:01 <zecke> RP: hrw|work : his tslib 'issue' would have been solved withins econds
Mar 21 09:13:23 <do13> zecke: np. I can test this
Mar 21 09:13:40 <zecke> do13: Do you know if Fn+Num produce > 7Bit keycodes?
Mar 21 09:14:00 <do13> zecke: I don't know
Mar 21 09:14:15 <XorA> RP: out of interest, will 2.6.16 run EABI?
Mar 21 09:15:08 <RP> XorA: Its not enabled in the defconfig but otherwise, it should
Mar 21 09:15:35 <RP> zecke: I don't know. We could have told him this but he likes to do things his own way - we had to tell him about tslib...
Mar 21 09:15:53 <XorA> now does enabling EABI mean you can only boot an EABI image, or will it boot both?
Mar 21 09:16:06 <RP> In theory, both...
Mar 21 09:16:30 <XorA> ok, I can altboot angstrom then, I am happy
Mar 21 09:17:10 * XorA slaps his head with a wet kipper, I should kxec to 2.6.16 :-)
Mar 21 09:17:14 <XorA> ~fishslap me
Mar 21 09:17:16 * ibot slaps xora up side the head with a wet fish.
Mar 21 09:17:47 <hrw|work> zecke: basically sometimes Pavel looks lost when it comes to Z
Mar 21 09:18:16 <hrw|work> I have to resolder 9pin -> 25pin and test own serial cable
Mar 21 09:21:25 <do13> zecke: concerning libqte-mt: Do you see problems with a static version?
Mar 21 09:23:44 <XorA> RP: http://pastebin.com/613981
Mar 21 09:25:13 <RP> XorA: Out of diskspace?
Mar 21 09:25:33 <XorA> RP: no, maybe my ext3 is dieing again :-(
Mar 21 09:25:44 <XorA> RP: Ill force a fsck next boot
Mar 21 09:25:53 <RP> XorA: Both c7x0 and spitz compiled fine for me :-/
Mar 21 09:26:03 <hrw|work> ~lart orbit2-native for building in eons...
Mar 21 09:26:03 * ibot beats orbit2-native over the head with a microkernel for building in eons...
Mar 21 09:26:20 <XorA> RP: is likely its my machine then
Mar 21 09:28:07 <RP> XorA: Try ust rerunning the build
Mar 21 09:28:27 <XorA> RP: am doing that now
Mar 21 09:28:37 * XorA needs to think about buying a new machine
Mar 21 09:28:48 <hrw|work> hm.. I will flash 3.5.4.1/c7x0
Mar 21 09:30:51 <XorA> RP: built this time, defineately my machine
Mar 21 09:30:56 <XorA> crappin amd64
Mar 21 09:36:04 <zecke> do13: No, I just imagine a big fat dragon :)
Mar 21 09:47:14 <Bernardo> Good Morning
Mar 21 09:47:25 <ade|desk> morning all
Mar 21 09:49:07 <hrw|work> hi Bernardo ade
Mar 21 09:50:18 <zecke> pb__: master?
Mar 21 09:52:22 <zecke> pb__: how can I make objdump, disassemble code that I can simply input to gas?
Mar 21 09:55:46 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r17c16ff5... 10/packages/otpkeygen/otpkeygen_1.3.0.bb: otpkeygen: install correct binary
Mar 21 09:55:59 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r50c22362... 10/packages/meta/ (bootstrap-image.bb gpe-image.bb opie-image.bb): fixed feed info in images: bootstrap/gpe/opie
Mar 21 09:56:46 <pb__> zecke: good morning
Mar 21 09:57:12 <pb__> zecke: you mean you want objdump to create a source file that you can feed back into gas?  I don't think it can do that on its own; you'd need to write a small script to massage the output.
Mar 21 09:57:50 <zecke> pb__: hmm :(
Mar 21 09:58:41 <zecke> pb__: do you have a such a script? :}
Mar 21 09:58:44 <zecke> *lame*
Mar 21 09:59:03 <pb__> heh.  sorry, no
Mar 21 09:59:16 <zecke> pb__: don't you feel like writing one?
Mar 21 09:59:22 <zecke> I guess you don't
Mar 21 10:05:17 <pb__> regrettably not
Mar 21 10:05:48 <pb__> maybe you can convince someone else in this channel to write one for you. :-}
Mar 21 10:10:53 <njs> zecke: sure you can't get away with just munging the original file with objcopy or something? *random shot in dark*
Mar 21 10:11:25 <zecke> njs: never used objcopy
Mar 21 10:11:36 <zecke> njs: I need to change the numbers for a mov and add :}
Mar 21 10:13:02 <hrw|work> zecke: use xxd and vi
Mar 21 10:13:57 <XorA> RP: one of my sound problems is fixed in 2.6.16
Mar 21 10:14:27 <obergix[work]> morning
Mar 21 10:14:54 <hrw|work> hi obergix
Mar 21 10:16:06 <njs> zecke: ah, that's a little different.  no useful hints, sorry.
Mar 21 10:16:13 <XorA> RP: alsa 2.6.16 defconfig turns off iptables
Mar 21 10:16:23 <XorA> s/alsa/also/
Mar 21 10:17:07 <njs> well, I know you could do it by writing some linker/binutils hack, but probably it would be easier to just memorize the architecture manual and use a hex editor.
Mar 21 10:18:10 <hrw|work> njs: those 8bit times when people was hacking games/apps with disc monitors and hex editors..
Mar 21 10:18:10 <pb__> zecke: oh right.  if that's all you want to do, yeah, use xemacs in hexl-mode
Mar 21 10:22:38 <ade|desk> ~lart vmware/win32 and cygwin/X for killing xterm during long compiles
Mar 21 10:22:39 * ibot pushes the wall down onto vmware/win32 and cygwin/X whilst whistling innocently for killing xterm during long compiles
Mar 21 10:23:09 <zecke> pb__: I don't know the mnemoic for mov and add :}
Mar 21 10:23:12 <XorA> ade|desk: I use Xming all day without it killing an xterm
Mar 21 10:25:32 <ade|desk> XorA: will give it a go :)
Mar 21 10:29:04 <CIA-1> 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3152a81f... 10/packages/gnome/orbit2-native_2.10.2.bb: orbit2-native: disable PARALLEL_MAKE
Mar 21 10:31:50 <RP> XorA: Which problem did it fix?
Mar 21 10:32:37 <XorA> RP: when device is closed/opened the device make sound come out, I dont need to switch between mic/headphone on mixer to re-enable it
Mar 21 10:32:42 <pH5> hi all
Mar 21 10:32:59 <RP> XorA: So which problems remain for you?
Mar 21 10:33:02 <RP> hi pH5 
Mar 21 10:33:11 <XorA> RP: the bug that is left is if you pause mplayer while using alsa, when unpause it just locks up (not crashed though as you can q to exit)
Mar 21 10:33:21 <XorA> RP: this does not happen when using OSS
Mar 21 10:33:27 <XorA> RP: so it might be an mplayer bug
Mar 21 10:34:45 <RP> XorA: ok. I'm also left wondering why sound under opie doesn't work :-/
Mar 21 10:35:14 <XorA> RP: wel Ill keep playing over today, but the major problem looks fixed from my quick tests
Mar 21 10:35:31 <RP> XorA: ok. That's good to know :)
Mar 21 10:37:47 <Bernardo> RP: backing up my akita now before flashing with the alpha1 images...
Mar 21 10:38:43 <Bernardo> anything you want me to test?
Mar 21 10:39:06 <RP> Bernardo: Not specifically - I'd just like to know if it works :)
Mar 21 10:39:14 <Bernardo> ok...
Mar 21 10:39:48 <RP> Bernardo: I'm hoping its in the same state as spitz which is working well
Mar 21 10:40:07 <Bernardo> my only problem is that I don't have network right now so wont be able to add easily any module that isn't in the base image
Mar 21 10:40:32 <Bernardo> my sandisk wifi card was never the same after the washing machine and the dryer...
Mar 21 10:41:04 <RP> I can see it not liking that...
Mar 21 10:41:55 <Bernardo> right now it works for 1 minute tops, after warming up
Mar 21 10:42:28 <Bernardo> does the connect plus (wifi + 128Mb) work well now?
Mar 21 10:42:39 <Bernardo> I'm having a friend bring me one
Mar 21 10:42:53 <RP> The memory and wifi don't work at the same time as far as I know
Mar 21 10:43:10 <RP> but that could have changed, I don't know...
Mar 21 10:43:25 <RP> Does opie do anything c7x0 specific with sound?
Mar 21 10:43:52 <RP> The kernel sound looks fine so I'm beginning to think its opie
Mar 21 10:46:20 <ArjanS> hrmm... the .oz354fam083 branch is split again
Mar 21 10:46:56 <Bernardo> RP: on kernel 2.4 I have sound in opie about 50% of the time
Mar 21 10:50:28 <_law_> is it possible that i got an virus-mail from nslu2-linux@nslu2-linux.bkbits.net
Mar 21 10:50:35 <_law_> woem.vb-9
Mar 21 10:50:45 <_law_> s/woem/worm
Mar 21 10:51:01 <pb__> very possible
Mar 21 10:51:14 <pb__> bkbits is no doubt infested with all forms of malware
Mar 21 10:51:24 <ade|desk> RP: doh, pl110 was compiled and linked but still no display :(
Mar 21 10:51:48 <zecke> pb__: hehe
Mar 21 10:51:56 <RP> ade|desk: It might have hooks in other files if you're just trying to add bits in, I have no idea
Mar 21 10:52:15 <RP> Probably integratorcp.c or whatever the main integrator file is...
Mar 21 10:52:24 <ade|desk> ok will see if i can do this another way.
Mar 21 10:56:04 <RP> hi Liam
Mar 21 10:56:14 <RP> Was just about to mail you :)
Mar 21 10:56:39 <RP> The latest ASoC looks good and has fixed problems on c7x0 (and continues to work on spitz)
Mar 21 10:57:27 <lrg> RP: excellent. btw, my tosa build is almost finished, so hopefully we will have tosa ok soon. :)
Mar 21 10:58:46 <lrg> RP: i think we may still have the problem where record only wasn't working on borzoi, I can fix this when I receive the new borzio from greentux
Mar 21 10:59:23 <RP> lrg: I've just been experimenting with input on the c7x0 - I get a continuous note in the headphones when I enable Mic Bias and no sidetone...
Mar 21 10:59:42 <RP> I suspect we're missing some key detail about how the hardware is setup...
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