**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 27 10:59:56 2006 Mar 27 12:21:18 RP: can we abandon borzoi.conf/terrier.conf in favour to spitz.conf? Mar 27 12:24:56 hrw|work: If we drop 2.4, yes Mar 27 12:25:26 RP: iirc we dropped 2.4 in .oz354x already Mar 27 12:25:42 hrw|work: At some point I'll be doing the same in .dev Mar 27 12:26:00 RP: spitz.conf ->c3x00.conf maybe? Mar 27 12:26:52 RP: but I do not know does same kernel can be booted on spitz/borzoi/terrier - especially does user can mount flash after booting Mar 27 12:26:59 hrw|work: Maybe, we'll see. I might just note in brozoi/terrier to use spitz Mar 27 12:27:16 like in boxer.conf it was? Mar 27 12:27:32 hrw|work: The same kernel can be booted on all of them and still use the flash Mar 27 12:27:45 cool Mar 27 12:27:57 hrw|work: If they changed the flash partitioning on terrier, we might need to add that to the kernel but apart from that its fine Mar 27 12:28:09 Actually, that's a nasty thought :-/ Mar 27 12:28:20 I really hope they didn't... Mar 27 12:28:34 RP: so from kernel side we have one cxx00 machine in few variants? or does akita need own one due to i2c expander? Mar 27 12:29:16 hrw|work: One kernel can work on them all except for the commandline Mar 27 12:29:40 RP: nice Mar 27 12:30:02 hrw|work: The commandline is the only reason they're different kernels Mar 27 12:30:05 hi there! Mar 27 12:30:08 RP: so I vote for akita.conf and c3x00.conf - this allow to create larger images for uDrive machines Mar 27 12:30:12 hi danboid Mar 27 12:30:20 hi hrw! Mar 27 12:30:30 hey danboid Mar 27 12:30:33 hrw|work: Agreed, akita is different enough to deserve its own conf file Mar 27 12:30:41 alright koen! Mar 27 12:30:48 hi danboid Mar 27 12:31:23 I've been hammering the the OESF boards recently now I've come to interrogate RP- hi to you too :) Mar 27 12:31:46 RP: I want to add gpe-filemanager for c3x00 machines - we have some space available and users ask why no file manager in image Mar 27 12:32:13 I seconf that! Mar 27 12:32:20 umm, second, sorry Mar 27 12:32:30 hrw|work: To keep the changeover simple, perhaps just leave c3x00 called spitz for now Mar 27 12:33:27 hi everyone Mar 27 12:33:32 hrw|work: gparted would also be a nice extra Mar 27 12:33:34 hi chris! Mar 27 12:33:34 hey chris144 Mar 27 12:33:45 hi folks Mar 27 12:34:45 RP- Whats the status of pxa270 video acceleration in 2.6? Can we expect to see it in the next 3.5.4.1 alpha/beta? Mar 27 12:36:01 Getting a lot of these, are they harmless?? NOTE: exceptions.SyntaxError:EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) while evaluating: Mar 27 12:36:03 (it is the pxa270 thats used in the C3000/C3100 right?) Mar 27 12:36:17 likewise: try rm tmp/cache -rf Mar 27 12:36:22 danboid: correct Mar 27 12:36:30 danboid: Someone needs to get the patches into our kernel. I haven't had time to touch that but it should be simple enough to do Mar 27 12:36:56 koen: thx; trying. Mar 27 12:37:05 I haven't time for lots of things I'd like to do atm... Mar 27 12:37:14 rp- so the patches already exist? Patched against what? An older 2.6? 2.4? Mar 27 12:39:17 danboid: I think the intel PXA patch series has something in it. I'm not sure if this is equivalent to what was in 2.4. There was also something in rmk's patch system iirc as someone attempted to get it into mainline Mar 27 12:39:57 what about pxa270 cpu freq. scaling? Mar 27 12:40:22 not supported as yet. There are various patches around but no good ones Mar 27 12:40:41 http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3219/1 http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3208/1 http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3207/1 Mar 27 12:40:51 status: 'discarded' Mar 27 12:41:16 strange- i would've thought that would've been easier done than the video accel, but then I'm no kernel hacker :) Mar 27 12:42:29 RP: sure Mar 27 12:42:44 koen: tried rm -rf /tmp/cache, but warnings remain. Can I ignore them? Mar 27 12:43:05 likewise: if they persist your bitbake and OE versions mismatch Mar 27 12:43:27 Pulled both 10 minutes ago... Mar 27 12:43:31 does 2.6.16 have up-to-date support for the cxx00 line, as seen in the 3.5.4.1a kernels? Mar 27 12:43:36 likewise: bitbake --version Mar 27 12:43:41 likewise: you're using bitbake from svn as well? Mar 27 12:43:48 danboid: 2.6.16-vanilla does not Mar 27 12:43:53 koen: BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.3.3.4, bitbake version 1.3.3.2 Mar 27 12:43:56 danboid: Partially. We have some external patches Mar 27 12:44:07 koen: yes Mar 27 12:44:19 likewise: in that case, I don't know, sorry Mar 27 12:44:24 koen: Revision: 419 Mar 27 12:44:28 koen: That's an impressive set of rejects from rmk :-/ Mar 27 12:44:28 koen: OK thanks anyway! Mar 27 12:45:18 RP: 3219/1 seems to solve most of them (except the big one) Mar 27 12:46:24 There are a bunch of packages which I have listed on the OESF OZ forum which I think would make great additions to OE like audacity, amule, gnomebaker, streamtuner etc.- can we get these into the OE repos? Mar 27 12:46:36 DISTRO = "openslug-bag" ===> sanity checker says "Please set a valid DISTRO in your local.conf" Mar 27 12:46:49 danboid: patches are welcome Mar 27 12:47:46 hrw: Is there a guide to uploading packages to OE? Can I do it without having OZ running on my Z? Mar 27 12:48:08 likewise, : i try to compile OE since many days Mar 27 12:48:16 porting, i mean (not uploading) Mar 27 12:48:16 danboid: oe wiki has infos Mar 27 12:48:20 good luck Mar 27 12:48:26 danboid: and OE is not only OZ related Mar 27 12:48:49 hrw: sorry? Mar 27 12:49:07 danboid: Is there a guide to uploading packages to OE? - oe wiki has infos Mar 27 12:49:17 danboid: Can I do it without having OZ running on my Z? - OE is not only OZ related Mar 27 12:50:02 'OE is not only OZ related'? I thought OZ was based upon OE, no? Mar 27 12:50:33 danboid: we use OE to build OZ Mar 27 12:50:46 danboid: but we also use OE to build many other distros Mar 27 12:51:08 danboid: I use OE to build packages for my OpenWRT powered router (but OpenWRT is not OE powered) Mar 27 12:51:22 that's a shame ;) Mar 27 12:51:32 danboid: people use OE to create x86 distros etc... Mar 27 12:51:40 Genesis: no - thats their choice Mar 27 12:51:55 i was laughing Mar 27 12:52:20 perharps they want that it works :) Mar 27 12:52:33 hrw: yeah, so I should be able to set up a OE environment under Debian or Ubuntu, right? Mar 27 12:52:36 yes Mar 27 12:52:46 hrw|work: Could you supply me a local.conf that works for your openwrt? I am having a hard time building for the Intel IXDP425 platform with OE and need a working start.. Mar 27 12:53:04 likewise: MACHINE=wrt54 DISTRO=wrtoe Mar 27 12:54:30 hrk|work: I had MACHINE=ixp4xx DISTRO=openslug-bag just now; trying your combo. Thanks! Mar 27 12:54:58 likewise: I would go to slug way in your place Mar 27 12:55:11 likewise: my wrt54 is MIPS machine - IXDP425 is arm Mar 27 12:55:26 armeb even Mar 27 12:55:48 Yes, but I need to confirm that the problem I see is conf related, or machine related. Mar 27 12:56:10 likewise: "Please set a valid DISTRO" is a bug in conf Mar 27 12:56:17 BIG egginess :-) Mar 27 12:56:18 I was SO impressed with OZ 3.5.4.1a on my C3000. In 15+ years of using computers I've NEVER seen such a great improvement to a machine purely through software. SHARP should really be funding you guys and fully contributing to OZ so they can release their next Z (or re-release existing models) with OZ pre-installed! Mar 27 12:56:46 hrw|work: Oh? How to work around that bug. I had set openslug-bag and hit that bug. Mar 27 12:56:47 danboid: we know that but sharp ignore everything which is developed on Z Mar 27 12:57:02 dicks! :) Mar 27 12:57:07 or for Z Mar 27 12:57:36 great hardware division, shame they don't care for the software Mar 27 12:57:50 hrw|work: Should I disable the sanity checker? Mar 27 12:57:58 likewise: there is no openslug-bag distro Mar 27 12:58:03 likewise: aah, I see what went wrong Mar 27 12:58:05 likewise: look into OE/conf/distro/ Mar 27 12:58:12 likewise: try DISTRO=slugos-bag Mar 27 12:58:21 openslug-bag? lol! Mar 27 12:59:20 whats openslug-bag? Mar 27 12:59:42 * likewise rubs his eyes and gets his coffee and says *thanks fooks* Mar 27 13:00:02 surely the person who named that doesn't speak english very well Mar 27 13:00:14 danboid: a distro for nslu2 (slugs): http://www.nslu2-linux.org/ Mar 27 13:00:55 danboid: openslug-BigendianArmGlibc iirc Mar 27 13:01:16 What about OE on the HTC uni? Mar 27 13:02:03 hrw|work: correct Mar 27 13:03:51 Why is there no option to report bugs in OZ 3.5.4 on the bugtracker? Mar 27 13:04:03 no one bothered to add a oz354 product Mar 27 13:04:20 well bother :D Mar 27 13:04:24 koen: who has admin rights? Mar 27 13:05:32 and 3.5.4.1 too- or are bugs in 3.5.4 one and the same? Mar 27 13:05:42 hrw|work: we (you, mickeyl, me) should have admin rights, but I can't find a way to add 3.5.4(.x) Mar 27 13:05:59 hrw|work: treke would now Mar 27 13:06:32 koen: ok Mar 27 13:07:02 danboid: 3.5.4.1 is 3.5.4 wieh newer kernel and few userspace tools newer Mar 27 13:08:05 so its not going to have a separate bugtracker? Mar 27 13:08:08 drat, e-image needs a fill x11 Mar 27 13:12:46 * france is away: Away Mar 27 13:23:14 RP, | Cannot find package task-bootstrap. Mar 27 13:23:14 when i bitbake bootstrap-image in poky for qemuarm target Mar 27 13:25:13 I modified the PATH for my bitbake build environment, but it's not recognized, where to set the PATH var? Mar 27 13:27:20 i've already build an image, but have to make my javac known to bitbake, so i prepended the path to javac, but bitbake is still using the old PATH value Mar 27 13:30:50 ok- i'm out now. Thanks for answering my questions- keep up the good work! Mar 27 13:31:33 bye! Mar 27 13:42:30 ok, solved the problem by myself, had to clear the cache Mar 27 13:44:16 Genesis: Its definetly there (in packages/meta) Mar 27 13:44:35 yeap i don't understand Mar 27 13:44:45 pb with ipkg i think Mar 27 13:47:27 compile error on opie-bluetoothmanager :( Mar 27 13:48:03 Genesis: Perhaps go back to an older ipkg then. I hadn't realised 159 was as buggy when I pushed it (and it seems to work ok for me somehow) :-/ Mar 27 13:48:47 RP: ipkg-native .159 is buggy Mar 27 13:48:56 RP: ipkg (cross) works pretty nice Mar 27 13:49:35 koen: I assume pigi is aware of the problem? Mar 27 13:49:42 RP: no idea Mar 27 13:51:25 RP: does the akita have a rtc? Mar 27 14:00:14 argh.. Mar 27 14:00:52 I'm still getting "virtual/kernel:openzaurus-pxa27x" when there is no sign of 'openzaurus-pxa27x' in BBFILES at all and in confs Mar 27 14:02:24 I guess you already tried removing tmp/cache... Mar 27 14:02:59 yep Mar 27 14:03:09 trying something other now Mar 27 14:09:31 found.. BBPATH wrong Mar 27 14:10:18 ah Mar 27 14:10:23 that would do iy Mar 27 14:10:24 it Mar 27 14:11:07 OE does not check DL_DIR if an archive is already there, strange. Mar 27 14:12:25 likewise: I think that if there is no .md5 file for that archive, bitbake will try and download the archive again Mar 27 14:13:02 exactly Mar 27 14:13:29 Bernardo,hrw|work: tjhanks, that should be it Mar 27 14:16:25 Bernardo: Yes, it has but it doesn't survive reboots Mar 27 14:16:41 libusb gcc 4.1 fix: * Fixed a build failure with GCC 4.1 (Closes: bug#357995). Mar 27 14:16:45 debian Mar 27 14:17:01 RP: pn mine it has survived cold resets Mar 27 14:17:12 pn=on Mar 27 14:17:25 Bernardo: Is that not /etc/timestamp helping? Mar 27 14:17:30 I've had it lock up a couple of times testing the usb wifi dongle Mar 27 14:17:35 no, I had to remove it Mar 27 14:17:54 or I would end up with the build date+time always Mar 27 14:18:15 Bernardo: It should check if /etc/timestamp or the RTC is more recent? Mar 27 14:18:26 If it doesn't do that, its a bug IMO Mar 27 14:18:43 it doesn't Mar 27 14:19:06 and due to bug 758 it doesn't even set /etc/timestamp at shutdown Mar 27 14:19:20 not that you can shutdown or reboot from opie's applet... :) Mar 27 14:19:21 Bernardo: Which package in OE generates the script that does this? Mar 27 14:19:55 RP: can't check now (at work on windows) but I think it might be initscripts Mar 27 14:20:17 RP: initscripts as part of reboot and one more script Mar 27 14:21:36 "Recover the time, if there is timestamp". Totally mad. (in bootmisc.sh) Mar 27 14:21:52 * RP adds to the todo list. Mar 27 14:22:03 bye Mar 27 14:22:21 RP: workarounds roxx. Mar 27 14:22:53 BB>> getvar PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Mar 27 14:22:53 linux-openzaurus Mar 27 14:22:53 BB>> getvar PREFERRED_PROVIDERS virtual/arm-linux-gcc-initial:gcc-cross-initial virtual/arm-linux-gcc:gcc-cross virtual/arm-linux-g++:gcc-cross tslib:tslib virtual/libqpe:libqpe-opie virtual/xserver:xserver-kdrive virtual/gconf:gconf-dbus Mar 27 14:23:19 why PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel is not a part of PREFERRED_PROVIDERS? Mar 27 14:23:37 hrw|work: They're different variables Mar 27 14:23:47 hrw|work: bitbake checks both Mar 27 14:23:48 just like suspected Mar 27 14:25:00 RP: did you see the report that /dev/rtc0 gets created, but not /dev/rtc? Mar 27 14:25:38 Bernardo: I did. We need to create a symlink on the zaurus somewhere. I'm not 100% sure where Mar 27 14:25:47 We could always add it to bootmisc.sh :) Mar 27 14:25:48 RP: udev.rules Mar 27 14:26:22 hrw|work: probably Mar 27 14:26:41 udev.rules sounds like the right place Mar 27 14:26:43 RP: /dev/anything is rather udev related Mar 27 14:26:54 * hrw|work builds spitz gpe-image Mar 27 14:27:37 hrw|work: you have a spitz there you can play with? Mar 27 14:28:56 no Mar 27 14:29:04 RP: something like 'KERNEL=="rtc0" NAME="rtc"' Mar 27 14:29:11 I want to add gpe-filemanager and few other things for c3x00 machines Mar 27 14:29:19 Bernardo: NAME="rtc0" SYMLINK="rtc" Mar 27 14:29:36 hrw|work: I was going to ask you to test removing /etc/timestamp and hard-reseting it to see if it keeps time too Mar 27 14:29:48 hrw|work: rigth Mar 27 14:31:12 heh.. cxx00 machines with builtin bt/wifi... Mar 27 14:31:34 http://www.iral.com/~albertr/linux/zaurus/wireless/ always remind me my c760.. Mar 27 14:31:50 Bernardo: I just reset and lost the time on spitz... Mar 27 14:32:18 strange... Mar 27 14:32:50 opening the battery cover and pressing the button now Mar 27 14:33:09 powering up again... Mar 27 14:36:58 ok, kept time perfectly Mar 27 14:37:25 3.5.4.1 alpha2 Mar 27 14:37:54 RP: maybe it was added when the akita was released? Mar 27 14:41:08 Bernardo: Unless they changed the processor, I'm not sure how its managing that. I just tried with the reset button and lost the time... Mar 27 14:42:05 RP: no idea how, but I'm sure that mine kept the time Mar 27 14:42:26 anyone else here with a akita, spitz or borzoy? :) Mar 27 14:43:02 or terrier? Mar 27 14:44:12 Bernardo: The Sharp Kernel appears to do something clever with the bootloader to preserve the time Mar 27 14:44:14 send me one :) Mar 27 14:44:39 Bernardo: The time on mine doesn't go to Zero and is keeping track of minutes somehow... Mar 27 14:45:00 hrw|work: that's the 3200? Mar 27 14:45:04 yes Mar 27 14:45:06 ~terrier Mar 27 14:45:08 rumour has it, terrier is Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200 Mar 27 14:45:15 RP: if I remeber right, doesnt it stick it in memory, than add X to account for a known reboot time Mar 27 14:45:24 ibot: terrier is also a dog Mar 27 14:45:26 okay, koen Mar 27 14:45:38 RP: but mine is flashed with oz-3.5.4.1 built friday Mar 27 14:45:50 XorA: Probably Mar 27 14:45:53 no sharp kernel here... only yours Mar 27 14:46:10 RP: someone once posted the details on either oz-devel or oesf Mar 27 14:46:13 * koen just uses ntpdate in the bootscripts Mar 27 14:46:20 My kernel has nothing to handle this. Trust me on this - I wrote this implementation of the PXA RTC driver :) Mar 27 14:46:29 (which just got sent to Linus btw) :) Mar 27 14:46:40 then why isn't my akita losing time? Mar 27 14:46:51 XorA: If someone can dig that out, I'd be interested to read it :) Mar 27 14:46:55 * koen wonders why oz users can't grasps the api difference between OZ and debian Mar 27 14:46:58 I don't have a /etc/timestamp Mar 27 14:47:13 koen: because it does not run opera? Mar 27 14:47:17 Bernardo: The bootloader is doing something clever on your behalf Mar 27 14:47:28 s/api/abi/ Mar 27 14:47:37 Bernardo: The question is how to get the time into the bootloader in the first place Mar 27 14:47:52 hrw|work: see the recent 'I installed debian's perl, can I install more?' posting Mar 27 14:48:07 yep Mar 27 14:48:22 koen: well OZ used to be compatible to debian, mental inertia is a bad thing Mar 27 14:48:35 koen: anyway I did not think that familiar users are smarter Mar 27 14:49:36 RP: and why it doesn't do that clever stuff on your spitz Mar 27 14:51:21 koen: ERROR: Nothing provides gparted Mar 27 14:52:42 hi Mar 27 14:52:50 hi CoreDump|home Mar 27 14:53:05 CoreDump|home: you have a akita too, right? Mar 27 14:53:12 righto Mar 27 14:53:45 does it keep time between reboots? After removing /etc/timestamp, of course Mar 27 14:54:25 nope how could it? It doesn't have a RTC Mar 27 14:54:46 hrw|work: crap, I had a .bb for it, but forgot to push Mar 27 14:55:25 CoreDump|home: that's the strange part. Mine does Mar 27 14:55:42 RP thinks it is the bootloader Mar 27 14:56:07 lol Mar 27 14:56:09 really? Mar 27 14:56:15 * CoreDump|home checks Mar 27 14:56:38 yes Mar 27 14:57:03 I've tried a few times after removing /etc/timestamp, and it seems to keep time well Mar 27 14:58:05 well, no /etc/timestamp here as well Mar 27 14:59:05 and? :) Mar 27 14:59:39 still rebooting heh Mar 27 15:00:07 :) Mar 27 15:00:20 CoreDump|home: do you have screenshots of a recent opie (and e)? Mar 27 15:00:38 I can't find a screenshot where the fonts don't look like ass Mar 27 15:00:42 koen: nope sorry. Don't even have a compiled image of them Mar 27 15:00:44 (and icons) Mar 27 15:01:16 opie icons suxx Mar 27 15:01:19 CoreDump|home: you had some screenshots on your site somewhere, but I forgot the url Mar 27 15:01:26 hmm Mar 27 15:01:36 not of a recent opie Mar 27 15:02:02 http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Akita/Opie-1.2.x/ Mar 27 15:02:11 a year old =) Mar 27 15:03:08 hh.org/scap suxx Mar 27 15:03:41 not on Akita heh Mar 27 15:04:01 CoreDump|home: thanks Mar 27 15:04:10 I'll do some Mar 27 15:05:16 Bernardo: time noted and synced with arm watch. now "rebooting" Mar 27 15:06:25 CoreDump|home: a few minutes ago I did a hard reset on mine, and it kept time (as well as I can check with wrist watch). Mar 27 15:06:42 when booting into init=/sbin/init the time is gone an set to 197 Mar 27 15:06:49 1970 Mar 27 15:07:17 when booting into hentges it should be set to the compilation date/time of the image Mar 27 15:07:47 I only checked after entering opie, did you add anything extra to show the time when booting into /sbin/init? Mar 27 15:07:54 nope Mar 27 15:07:58 `date` Mar 27 15:08:58 now I don't understand at all why mine is keeping time and your's isn't Mar 27 15:09:41 heh Mar 27 15:09:47 I've got not RTC Mar 27 15:09:59 init is even bitching about not beeing able to access it Mar 27 15:10:18 "hwclock: could not access RTC" Mar 27 15:10:19 CoreDump|home: We need to symlink /dev/rtc0 to /dev/rtc Mar 27 15:11:16 ok, with this symlink "hwclock" does show a time Mar 27 15:11:40 I've just added the rule as suggested by hrw to /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules Mar 27 15:12:33 CoreDump|home: and that time is something just after 1970 or correct? Mar 27 15:12:38 koen: http://handhelds.org/~hrw/shots/ in few minutes Mar 27 15:12:47 Bernardo: yep Mar 27 15:13:06 well, it would never have been set Mar 27 15:13:34 well, I'm rebooting my akita now with "shutdown -r" and I had set my rtc yesterday when I tested the wifi dongle Mar 27 15:14:09 hwclock -w didn't complain Mar 27 15:14:12 ok, doesn't reboot, forgot that Mar 27 15:14:13 trying again Mar 27 15:14:45 INIT: version 2.86 booting Mar 27 15:17:10 ok Mar 27 15:17:12 nope, hwclock is reset to 1970 Mar 27 15:17:17 shutdown resets the clock Mar 27 15:17:27 hard reset doesn't (at least here) Mar 27 15:18:00 nm, had to remove battery Mar 27 15:19:24 I'm doing a hard reset now, still with the rule in udev.rules to create rtc0 Mar 27 15:21:16 ok, a hard reset doesn't clear the rtc, a clean shutdown does (on my akita) Mar 27 15:21:38 now what is wrong here? Mar 27 15:21:45 Bernardo: sharp bootloader? Mar 27 15:25:09 hrw|work: possibly, but why is rtc reset to 1970 when doing a clean shutdown? Mar 27 15:26:29 time to flash my own release heh Mar 27 15:26:41 Bernardo: because 01.01.1970 is begin of unix world? Mar 27 15:27:52 exactly Mar 27 15:28:19 yes, but why resetting it on a clean shutdown, and not on a hard reset? Mar 27 15:28:37 are we doing something during shutdown that we shouldn't do? Mar 27 15:29:37 well, do a shutdown -rn now Mar 27 15:29:51 (ie: don't go through init) Mar 27 15:32:40 ok, trying now Mar 27 15:34:42 no, time reset once again Mar 27 15:35:25 shutdown and reset are handled differently in the kernel. I think shutdown is handled quite badly Mar 27 15:36:49 the kernel still gets called on a cold reset? Mar 27 15:38:24 I mean hard reset Mar 27 15:38:58 no Mar 27 15:42:36 RP: why doesn't Cwiiis submit new packages to the bugtracker? Mar 27 15:43:39 bbl Mar 27 15:43:46 CoreDump|home: have you tried hard reset? Mar 27 15:43:56 not really Mar 27 15:44:49 but well, I believe once "reboot" does properly work, the time will be kept Mar 27 15:45:39 I'm just curious Mar 27 15:45:40 :) Mar 27 15:47:23 koen|food: Don't know :) Mar 27 15:47:44 It's hard to keep up with what is and isn't in OE these days Mar 27 15:48:03 and last I tried to go to the bugtracker, it wasn't online or something? Mar 27 15:49:01 morning Mar 27 15:57:54 chouimat: good ev'ning Mar 27 15:57:59 Cwiiis: oe@hh worked when bugzilla had problems Mar 27 15:58:34 hrw|work: So, where do I go to submit new packages? Mar 27 15:59:10 Cwiiis: proper way is http://bugs.openembedded.org/ Mar 27 15:59:20 Cwiiis: if it does not work then mail to OE ML Mar 27 16:00:23 OE doesn't have Dates/Web/Contacts/gtkhtml2/spidermonkey, does it? Mar 27 16:01:45 rather not Mar 27 16:02:06 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * ra6b60c3b... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (9 files in 9 dirs): keylaunch: backport version from .dev to fix hotkeys on SL-Cxxxx Mar 27 16:02:14 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r98956fd4... 10/packages/keylaunch/keylaunch_2.0.7.bb: keylaunch: remove old version Mar 27 16:02:16 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rb243e36f... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files): drop rest of 2.4 kernel files for c7x0 machines Mar 27 16:02:21 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r9c5379a0... 10/packages/libschedule/ (libschedule_0.13.bb libschedule_0.16.bb): libschedule: Add 0.16, remove 0.13. Mar 27 16:02:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ree065379... 10/packages/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Mar 27 16:02:25 openobex: add version 1.2, remove version 1.0.1 Mar 27 16:02:25 openobex-apps has been integrated into openobex Mar 27 16:02:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1506d12f... 10/packages/wxbase/ (wxbase_2.6.2.bb wxbase_2.7+cvs.bb): wxbase: add 2.6.2 and 2.7+cvs, partially fixes OE bug #716 Mar 27 16:02:32 Right... Is it worth me submitting Web/gtkhtml2/spidermonkey? Web requires the curl package to be changed to enable http (or it's pretty useless) Mar 27 16:02:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2e38607c... 10/packages/obexftp/ (4 files in 3 dirs): obexftp: add 0.19 (openobex 1.1 and later), remove 0.10.3 (openobex 1.0) Mar 27 16:02:37 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8809b1f1... 10/packages/opie-bluetoothmanager/ (3 files): Mar 27 16:02:37 opie-bluetoothmanager: catch up with recent changes in the opie cvs Mar 27 16:02:37 depend on obexftp and show where to find its headers Mar 27 16:07:01 Cwiiis: I would submit Mar 27 16:10:29 a+ Mar 27 16:11:08 Cwiiis: and cairo (and all stuff you put in poky which isn't in OE) Mar 27 16:11:37 koen: cairo's in OE, surely? Mar 27 16:11:59 Cwiiis: not the version you put in poky Mar 27 16:12:06 koen: I have no idea what is/isn't in OE, but if you give me a list I'll submit them Mar 27 16:12:19 koen: svn mv cairo_1.0.0.bb cairo_1.0.4.bb :) Mar 27 16:12:41 ~poky Mar 27 16:12:46 Cwiiis: check out the OE repo and look Mar 27 16:12:52 Cwiiis: it isn't rocket science Mar 27 16:13:14 koen: Yes, but it is me downloading it, extracting it and comparing when I'm otherwise busy :p Mar 27 16:13:22 CoreDump|home: OH internal distro Mar 27 16:13:30 ahh thx Mar 27 16:15:42 Ok... I am on familiar 0.8.3 and need to get some packages that are not on the feeds... What branch should I use? Is the oz354fam083 branch sill in use? Mar 27 16:16:00 poli: that one is for fam 0.8.3 Mar 27 16:16:13 poli: does it get used is hard to tell - ask on #familiar Mar 27 16:16:35 hrw|work: Should it somehow safe to use oz354x ? Mar 27 16:16:40 *be safe Mar 27 16:18:23 poli: for familiar 0.8.3? rather not Mar 27 16:19:43 Any advice for someone that wants to keep "up to date" with packages? Mar 27 16:21:38 poli: forget familiar 0.8.3 and use .dev/familiar-unstable? Mar 27 16:22:42 That might might do it... thanks. Mar 27 16:29:55 wow! I just made remote debugging with Eclipse/gdb on an oe x86 rootfs work. Absolutely cool! Mar 27 16:30:03 chris144: congrats Mar 27 16:30:09 koen: thanks Mar 27 16:38:57 koen: Submitted some packages, although I've been informed that RP had already sync'd some stuff, so sorry for any duplicates - In future though, if you're already keeping such a close eye on poky as to know I updated cairo, it'd probably be a lot easier for you to just copy it over than to ask me to submit it to your bugzilla and go through all that Mar 27 16:39:42 Cwiiis: that's the wrong way around Mar 27 16:39:53 Cwiiis: you are using OE, I am not using poky Mar 27 16:40:16 koen: I'm the only member of OH who sees anything of what happens in OE Mar 27 16:40:31 koen: The rest of OH have no idea what may or may not be in OE Mar 27 16:41:07 koen: Yes, and our repo is public - so all our changes are there, waiting to be synced to OE by OE people Mar 27 16:42:03 djeez Mar 27 16:42:21 Cwiiis: do you expect us to actively scan every vendor repo for changes? Mar 27 16:42:38 koen: I don't mind submitting stuff if you tell me 'package x isn't in OE and we could do with it', but I'm not going to keep track of OE - it's huge and difficult to work with Mar 27 16:42:41 Cwiiis: I find that a bit antisocial Mar 27 16:43:13 koen: If the process was easier, it wouldn't be a problem Mar 27 16:43:52 how much easier than looking in viewmtn can it be> Mar 27 16:43:53 ? Mar 27 16:44:06 koen: I wasn't even aware there was a viewmtn :p Mar 27 16:44:36 so you actually haven't tried to look, you just assert that it is 'too difficult' Mar 27 16:44:41 koen: Maybe these things should be linked off the main site? Mar 27 16:44:42 I find that rather offensive Mar 27 16:44:52 they are linked of the main site Mar 27 16:45:28 ah, I see... Not obvious though Mar 27 16:47:03 koen: As offensive as you may find it, I'm busy enough with uni and OH - I'll bear this in mind in the future, but given our repo is public and you seem to be tracking it anyway, and you have enough time to complain to RP/me... Well, you get the picture anyway Mar 27 16:48:00 Cwiiis: essentially you are saying "fuck upstream", you do now that? Mar 27 16:48:24 now I know that I'll stay away from OH stuff as far as I can Mar 27 16:48:39 koen: If that were the case we'd not be having this conversation Mar 27 16:50:19 koen: For reference after your recent comments, I ended up merging things from poky to OE on my own time recently and I'm very short of that atm Mar 27 16:50:25 koen: Come on now... RP is already keeping things in sync, I'm telling you that as far as I knew, the process was very troublesome and I have very little spare time as it is - now I know there's a viewmtn (which isn't obviously linked on the front-page), I'll try to keep that in mind - But the changes your complaining to me about are such tiny things - new packages I understand, but an svn mv? Mar 27 16:53:33 koen: I'll put it another way - I don't have very much time and having to do everything I already do twice makes things take a lot longer - If you're keeping an eye on poky, I'd appreciate you giving me the occasional nudge as to what I need to push back, or even you doing it yourself Mar 27 16:54:38 Cwiiis: when I was doing that myself I was told to stop doing that and wait for you guys Mar 27 16:55:06 koen: What I actually said was mention that it came from poky/OH in the changelog Mar 27 16:55:20 koen: Well, just for me personally then - if RP misses something and it's something I'm responsible for, I don't mind you nudging/mailing me Mar 27 16:56:20 * RP can also be nudged. Syncing is easier after I've pulled changes from OE into poky so you might have to wait for that. Mar 27 16:56:31 cu Mar 27 16:57:49 I can't really find the B variable listed on http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/bb_20file Anywhere else where I could look? Mar 27 16:58:48 Just to say as well, it isn't our duty to keep OE in sync with poky, so it's something that should be co-operated for, not something that should be demanded Mar 27 17:28:35 hey Mar 27 17:28:53 mallum: I think you've missed most of the action :) Mar 27 17:29:43 damn :/ Mar 27 17:29:55 what do I do with my popcorn now then ? Mar 27 17:30:05 :) Mar 27 17:34:39 Is there some option to disable the "Handling bitbake files" part of a bitbake? Mar 27 17:35:08 poli: bitbake -i Mar 27 18:21:14 re Mar 27 18:22:03 wb hrw Mar 27 18:27:22 food... Mar 27 18:53:37 argh... Mar 27 18:53:51 my wifi card again decided to drop every connection attempt ;( Mar 27 19:17:27 koen: can you install cvs2cl on ewi? Mar 27 19:41:10 Hi, just downloaded OE.db.bz2 and pulled then latest changes. In checkout I got "multiple head error..." Mar 27 19:41:19 from dev branch. Mar 27 19:41:24 hm Mar 27 19:41:37 whos heads are? Mar 27 19:42:16 ok. I see Mar 27 19:42:44 hrw: How did you checked that? Mar 27 19:42:55 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev Mar 27 19:45:04 thanks, can you merge the heads? Mar 27 19:45:11 will try Mar 27 19:45:21 my home .dev tree is very old Mar 27 19:46:02 and I need to connect first... Mar 27 19:46:21 hrw: Might be faster to download & checkout new version temporitaly? Mar 27 19:46:52 I'm pulling now on ewi Mar 27 19:47:12 stuck on 'monotone: connecting to monotone.vanille.de' Mar 27 19:48:11 hrw: For me the pull worked ok form monotone about 10 minutes ago. Mar 27 19:50:55 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r9fabec84... 10/packages/openssh/openssh_4.0p1.bb: openssh: Make openssh-sshd and the meta-package openssh RREPLACE and RCONFLICT dropbear. Mar 27 19:50:57 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r669a25c1... 10/packages/display-brightness/ (display-brightness.sh display-brightness_1.0.0.bb): display-bightness: Added version from .dev to allow changing of brightness via hotkeys Mar 27 19:51:03 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r737acaa4... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): keylaunch: Apply SL-Cxxxx changes from .dev Mar 27 19:51:06 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r3910a6fc... 10/packages/openssh/openssh_4.0p1.bb: openssh: Make openssh-sshd and the meta-package openssh RREPLACES and RCONFLICT dropbear. Mar 27 19:51:14 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r8de6cc8e... 10/packages/display-brightness/ (display-brightness.sh display-brightness_1.0.0.bb): display-brightness: Fix execution error (busybox related?) Mar 27 19:51:22 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb14eb005... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Mar 27 19:51:22 keylaunch: Mar 27 19:51:22 - Adjust keylaunchrc for akita / spitz / borzoi Mar 27 19:51:22 - Add a DEPENDS / RDEPENDS to "display-bightness" on openzaurus Mar 27 19:51:23 - Akita / spitz / borzoi can now change their displays bightness via the default Fn key combinations Mar 27 19:51:25 - Also mapped "Home" to switch between open windows and Fn+Home to show the desktop Mar 27 19:55:36 CoreDump|home: you created hydra in .dev Mar 27 19:55:48 argh Mar 27 19:57:25 will you merge it? Mar 27 19:57:34 or do I have to do it? Mar 27 19:57:43 anyway merged Mar 27 19:58:27 * CoreDump|home just pushed Mar 27 19:58:57 lamikr: pull Mar 27 19:59:16 uh oh Mar 27 19:59:34 monotone: selected update target 1bfaf428d92fc25df5e7f681b3452c4e3e5c9f1a Mar 27 19:59:34 monotone: updated to base revision 1bfaf428d92fc25df5e7f681b3452c4e3e5c9f1a Mar 27 19:59:35 monotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is merged Mar 27 20:00:05 I merged before you Mar 27 20:00:21 mt log looks funny at top Mar 27 20:00:56 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=1bfaf428d92fc25df5e7f681b3452c4e3e5c9f1a Mar 27 20:00:57 hrw: Ok, now it pulled ok. Mar 27 20:01:05 two authors Mar 27 20:01:12 two everything Mar 27 20:01:25 ouch Mar 27 20:01:37 maybe a case for jnc ? Mar 27 20:01:43 IOW more certs to the same revision Mar 27 20:01:44 rather njs Mar 27 20:01:51 right Mar 27 20:01:51 completely harmless Mar 27 20:01:56 and expected even :) Mar 27 20:02:01 koen: looks funny anywa Mar 27 20:02:04 y Mar 27 20:02:05 it does Mar 27 20:25:24 koen: I updated the gomunicator_cvs.bb, it will now install desktop file. Mar 27 20:25:43 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r4ac478c0... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: Create gomunicator icon to desktop by installing the gomunicator.desktop. Mar 27 20:25:44 it's is pushed to vanille.de. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 27 20:28:28 2006 Mar 27 20:29:27 koen: btw, I think that the glibc update did not work for me... I booted today from SD card and locale conversions took still lot of time and were eventually killed by OOM. (First boot lasted 25 minutes from sd...) Mar 27 20:55:28 nite folks Mar 27 21:10:06 hi all Mar 27 21:17:28 * chouimat is away: stuff and other stuff Mar 27 21:35:26 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r3786ae72... 10/packages/pvrusb2-mci/ (pvrusb2-mci-20060326/Makefile.patch pvrusb2-mci_20060326.bb): Mar 27 21:35:26 pvrusb2-mci: added 20060326 snapshot Mar 27 21:35:26 note: this does not work out-of-the box for the new pvrusb2 devices Mar 27 21:35:26 see http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2.html for details Mar 27 21:35:30 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rec2b8ee2... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Mar 27 21:35:30 ixp4xx kernel: added patch for copypage-xscale.c Mar 27 21:35:31 this patch exports scale_mc_clear_user_page so video-buf can be loaded Mar 27 21:35:33 again; this symbol got lost between 2.6.15 and 2.6.16 Mar 27 21:35:35 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rba3bc77c... 10/packages/cdparanoia/ (files/Makefile.patch cdparanoia_9.8alpha.bb): cdparanoia: add patch for Makefile.in; replace strip by $(STRIP) Mar 27 21:35:39 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rcc1ec893... 10/conf/distro/slugos-packages.conf: slugos-packages: added cdparanoia Mar 27 21:41:16 new OpenZaurus website look - enjoy http://www.openzaurus.org/wordpress/ Mar 27 21:42:04 looks nice Mar 27 21:42:45 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/ could need some updating Mar 27 21:43:13 I know Mar 27 21:43:20 had better version even Mar 27 21:45:02 * koen has had enough webstuff for today Mar 27 21:45:26 I hacked on drupal, gallery and gforge Mar 27 21:45:35 drupal is cute, gallery is nice Mar 27 21:45:40 but gforge is...... Mar 27 21:45:49 2edited a bit Mar 27 21:46:44 * koen should work on OZ some more till EABI get stable Mar 27 21:47:58 hrw: it seems all the paypal buttons fell off Mar 27 21:50:34 yep Mar 27 21:51:32 'night all Mar 27 21:56:10 ~lrg Mar 27 21:59:23 cu all Mar 27 22:03:07 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r79f0a66c... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: Gomunicator requires that alsa-lib is installed to target device. Mar 27 22:40:13 http://www.angstrompower.com/index.jsp Mar 27 23:08:48 anyone setup the native gcc env on 3.5.4 : im getting cannot find /lib/libc.so.6 inside /usr/bin/../../usr Mar 27 23:10:30 huh? DISTRO = "slugos-bag" compiles X.org?? Mar 27 23:34:50 all: does OE need QEMU to build for ARM? Mar 27 23:35:41 likewise: I haven't seen it building qemu when building for borzoi (arm5).. Mar 27 23:36:12 likewise: yes, if you want binary locales, which fixes i18n Mar 27 23:36:30 likewise: you don't *need* qemu, though, you can disable it Mar 27 23:36:51 I am trying to add the Coldfire architecture in the next week, and I would like to know the hurdles before I commence. Mar 27 23:37:15 JustinP: how exactly? By simple not mentioning the package in BB_FILES? Mar 27 23:37:22 JustinP: How is QEMU disabled/enabled during the glibc build? Mar 27 23:37:56 ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" Mar 27 23:38:00 in your local.conf Mar 27 23:38:08 WHOOPS: (compiling DISTRO=slugos-bag for ARM) gives me: gtktooltips.c:127: internal compiler error: in do_SUBST, at combine.c:447 Mar 27 23:38:16 justinp: thanks Mar 28 01:42:26 hi Mar 28 03:52:37 * france is back (gone 14:39:55) Mar 28 06:45:28 hey uh, opie-bluetoothmanager needs to be locked to a SRCDATE Mar 28 06:45:56 it's blowing up because current CVS (which it pulls since no SRCDATE is used) is not compiling Mar 28 06:46:13 though it looks like there was an update Mar 28 06:46:17 so maybe this was already done Mar 28 06:46:20 brb, reading mt log Mar 28 06:48:15 okay nevermind what i said. going to try compiling and see if the updated build will compile Mar 28 06:48:37 lol Mar 28 06:51:51 there's no need to parse crap you only build once Mar 28 06:51:55 * jnc grumbles Mar 28 06:52:07 taht is what -b is for Mar 28 06:52:14 atleast i think its -b Mar 28 06:52:39 well let me ask, how many bb files are used for generating the crosscompile toolchain? Mar 28 06:52:53 is it a significant number of bb files? Mar 28 06:53:00 not really Mar 28 06:53:17 its an issue i've brought up before Mar 28 06:53:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r046bb88a... 10/conf/bitbake.conf: bitbake.conf: add E_CVS, a var holding the new anoncvs uri for enlightenment stuff Mar 28 06:53:35 NOTE: preferred version ${OPIE-VERSION} of opie-bluetoothmanager not available Mar 28 06:53:35 NOTE: preferred version ${OPIE-VERSION} of opie-bluepin not available Mar 28 06:53:36 hmm Mar 28 06:53:45 maybe angstrom should define it, maybe not Mar 28 06:54:07 if your building for angstrom, then yes it should Mar 28 06:54:38 emte: no it should not Mar 28 06:54:47 emte: it should build latest cvs for opie Mar 28 06:55:32 koen, yes if PREFERED_VERSION doesnt exist Mar 28 06:55:54 it looks liek his is set to a specific version that is no longer availible for some reason Mar 28 06:56:00 *sigh* Mar 28 06:56:09 it doesn't appear to be set at all. Mar 28 06:56:18 it is working like it's intended to work Mar 28 06:56:29 yea Mar 28 06:56:46 like mickeyl and me want it to work Mar 28 06:57:35 do i really need to parse every single bitbake file before i build something? Mar 28 06:58:01 bitbake -i Mar 28 06:58:09 computers are fast enough, i almost feel like if possible this could be done while some work is being done Mar 28 06:59:11 also, hey why is the complaint "NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available" registered Mar 28 06:59:25 should i worry about it linking against something other than glibc 2.4 Mar 28 06:59:32 it's an anstrom build btw Mar 28 06:59:38 s/ans/angs/ Mar 28 07:02:28 glibc-2.4 does seem to be available, and apparently is being used Mar 28 07:02:30 so why the warning Mar 28 07:03:23 plop Mar 28 07:06:02 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/ edited - time to go to work - cu in 20 minutes Mar 28 07:08:51 build/tmp/work/libgsmc-0.0.1-r0/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.4832: line 417: syntax error near unexpected token `;;' - does this mean that my bitbake is broken? Mar 28 07:22:44 herm Mar 28 07:23:11 try cleaning libgsmc, update your db, monotone up, then build again Mar 28 07:23:21 oh and be sure to svn up your bitbake Mar 28 07:24:57 if you svn up, you have to remove your cache Mar 28 07:25:36 eh, that's not so bad. rm -fr oetmp; bitbake nano Mar 28 07:25:43 sleep on it, come back tomorrow :) Mar 28 07:26:09 removing cache = rm tmp/cache, not the complete dir Mar 28 07:26:11 anyway Mar 28 07:26:21 * koen heads of to belgium Mar 28 07:26:28 see you on friday Mar 28 07:29:03 hehe, tnx guys... I'll give it a try... Mar 28 07:31:15 still, bitbake other stuff works great... ?!? Mar 28 07:31:57 I'm running into a seg fault in gpe-edit and an invalid pointer in gpe-conf theme in a gpe-image built from .dev on akita Mar 28 07:32:04 the run.do_patchcleancmd fails on the -C option every time, but I don't even have that option in my .bb file... :/ Mar 28 07:32:22 is this known or should I start bug-reporting? Mar 28 07:34:47 hi Mar 28 07:35:41 hi Mar 28 07:37:18 mndctrl: quilt built? Mar 28 07:37:23 mndctrl: I mean quilt-native Mar 28 07:39:04 hrw|work: heh, I dunno.. I just do bitbake appname ;) I dont know what that mean... Mar 28 07:39:08 means Mar 28 07:39:22 mndctrl: it fails on which package? Mar 28 07:39:46 it fails on my own library... wich I'm trying to build for arm ;) Mar 28 07:39:51 libgsmc Mar 28 07:40:46 ~pastebin Mar 28 07:40:48 from memory, pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste Mar 28 07:40:52 pastebin output Mar 28 07:41:25 hang on... Mar 28 07:43:45 just trying once more before pastebin ;) hang on... Mar 28 07:45:18 http://pastebin.com/626520 Mar 28 07:45:34 .c and Makefile: http://hanafjedle.net/opiedial/download/libgsmc-0.0.1.tar.gz Mar 28 07:46:52 its for familiar, I've tried setting the distro variable or familiar, but then I got some other strage error that I needed to set som variable to something... dont remember.. Mar 28 07:46:59 mndctrl: cleaned cache? those warnings/errors from bitbake does not look good Mar 28 07:47:14 hrw|work: I cleaned it just before this build... :/ Mar 28 07:47:22 ah. Mar 28 07:47:24 and did svn bitbake Mar 28 07:47:29 show me recipe Mar 28 07:47:41 .bb? Mar 28 07:47:58 yep Mar 28 07:48:05 2 sec... Mar 28 07:48:44 morning Mar 28 07:48:54 hi xora Mar 28 07:49:05 mornin' Mar 28 07:49:08 XorA: what do you feel about new openzaurus.org? Mar 28 07:49:22 hrw|work: http://pastebin.com/626522 Mar 28 07:49:52 hrw|work: I've had numerous versions of it ;) Mar 28 07:50:02 hrw|work: let me look Mar 28 07:50:43 mndctrl: not fetchable ;( Mar 28 07:50:51 Length: unspecified [text/html] Mar 28 07:51:15 hrw|work: thats sweet, much better layout IMO I like the two column style Mar 28 07:52:23 hrw|work: http://pastebin.com/626525 Mar 28 07:52:34 hrw|work: site look good ;) Mar 28 07:53:58 mndctrl: cannot fetch archive ;( Mar 28 07:54:07 oh, the .tag.gz? Mar 28 07:54:11 tar.gz Mar 28 07:56:04 yes Mar 28 07:56:12 wget http://hanafjedle.net/opiedial/download/libgsmc-0.0.1.tar.gz works for me...?!? Mar 28 07:56:25 just grab it like that and put under source? Mar 28 07:56:49 ah, I see the mistake under the .bb file... Mar 28 07:57:12 opiedial.hanafjedle.net fails... I'll fix it to: hanafjedle.net/opiedial/ Mar 28 07:58:02 hrw|work: http://pastebin.com/626528 Mar 28 07:58:16 ok. fixed - got same error Mar 28 07:59:08 you got same as me? ok, then probably the .bb file and my Makefile thats wrong... Mar 28 07:59:25 and/or ;) Mar 28 07:59:42 mndctrl: s/$(/${ Mar 28 08:00:07 mndctrl: if you use vim then use bitbake/contrib/vim/syntax/bitbake.vim Mar 28 08:00:32 mndctrl: http://pastebin.com/626533 Mar 28 08:05:00 hrw|work: tnx ;) managed to fix it ;) stupid syntax errors, now it fail at the staging dir... unable to locate shared library... Mar 28 08:05:31 could this be because I've not compile my .c files yet? mybe I need a do_compile script in there also? Mar 28 08:06:37 then again do_compile completes without errors.. ? hm... Mar 28 08:08:44 mndctrl: makefile need to be in ${S}, do_compile() { oe_runmake } Mar 28 08:11:20 hrw|work: ok, tnx... Mar 28 08:13:37 morning all Mar 28 08:14:11 * XorA goes off to fix the openobex compile Mar 28 08:15:57 hi Dirk Mar 28 08:16:14 hey Marcin Mar 28 08:19:29 hrw|work: hmm.. still no .so files :/ or .o for that matter... Mar 28 08:22:47 i try to port OE on a i.mx21 devboard Mar 28 08:22:47 , i listed the product that use the same µc Mar 28 08:22:47 the board came with a CELF linux distribution Mar 28 08:22:47 what could i do for the hardware page in the wiki ? Mar 28 08:25:01 ? Mar 28 08:25:15 mndctrl: make 3.81 does not like your makefile ;( Mar 28 08:25:43 hrw|work: I know, I've fixed it now... I used spaces in the one you have, it needs to be a tab... Mar 28 08:26:16 hrw|work: after that I can make it fine for my x86, but still no luck with bitbake.... Mar 28 08:26:56 hrw|work: but after making my shard library for x86, bitbaking libgsmc worked fine ;) but I guess not, since the library files are compiled manually for x86? hehe... Mar 28 08:27:12 we could sort board by devboard plateform Mar 28 08:27:30 mndctrl: NOTE: package aaa-0.0.1-r0: task do_build: completed Mar 28 08:28:07 mndctrl: http://pastebin.com/626549 Mar 28 08:28:33 products based on the same board should have many common issue Mar 28 08:28:40 Genesis: can you give me url to that wiki page? I do not remember all wiki pages ;( Mar 28 08:29:39 http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HardwareProjects Mar 28 08:29:41 for example Mar 28 08:30:05 there is no page that works with my mind Mar 28 08:30:36 the products are sorted by firm in the wiki Mar 28 08:30:40 hrw|work: tnx... so the moral of the story is that I should pack the pre-compiled .o and .so files into my .tar.gz ? Mar 28 08:30:49 mndctrl: no! Mar 28 08:30:54 hrw|work: oh ;) Mar 28 08:31:05 mndctrl: fix your makefile - my version builds Mar 28 08:31:20 hrw|work: ahh, ok, tnx alot... Mar 28 08:31:26 I'll give it a spin... Mar 28 08:31:41 mndctrl: -rwxr-xr-x 1 hrw hrw 30979 Mar 28 10:38 tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libgsmc.so Mar 28 08:32:08 a great thing would be to make a OE hardware database :o) Mar 28 08:32:29 Genesis: so you want to create hardware related pages in OE wiki where our target will be described/grouped? Mar 28 08:32:37 yes Mar 28 08:32:38 Genesis: nice idea Mar 28 08:32:55 but it's not an handhelds for the moment Mar 28 08:33:15 OE wiki != handhelds.org wiki Mar 28 08:33:15 so , it's not match with http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary Mar 28 08:34:11 perharps i could create a new page , HardwareByBoard Mar 28 08:34:45 i donno. Mar 28 08:34:55 SupportedHardwareTargets Mar 28 08:35:56 good morning folks Mar 28 08:35:58 hrw|work: worked like a charm ;) tnx ALOT! Mar 28 08:37:38 brb Mar 28 08:41:04 <_law_> anybody else has problems building gconf-dbus (svn version) ? Mar 28 08:41:17 _law_: yes Mar 28 08:41:30 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r3fa0a796... 10/packages/openobex/openobex_1.2.bb: openobex_1.2.bb : fix to stop openobex pulling in includes from host Mar 28 08:41:31 _law_: last week I had to remove all -Werror from the Makefiles Mar 28 08:44:13 <_law_> XorA, got some cairo problems? Mar 28 08:44:29 <_law_> XorA, perhabs i should try this Mar 28 08:45:21 _law_: I think you might need to update to newest gtk as well, because your glib updated Mar 28 08:45:40 _law_: but I havent tested that, I rm -rf /tmp and am only now rebuilding Mar 28 08:46:20 <_law_> XorA, ok perhabs i also should to this Mar 28 08:48:06 * XorA is as far as samba :-) Mar 28 08:58:57 _law_: just built herer, removed one -Werror from modules/Makefile Mar 28 09:00:13 _law_: erm, ignore that, wrong package :-) Mar 28 09:18:23 hi Mar 28 09:20:29 http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHardwareTargets Mar 28 09:20:41 lu obergix[home] Mar 28 09:21:22 salut Genesis Mar 28 09:45:47 good morning Mar 28 09:49:28 yo Bernardo Mar 28 09:52:53 could this page ( http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHardwareTargets ) be in the left menu , section hardware ? Mar 28 09:53:26 feel free to change it Mar 28 09:57:46 Genesis: you added page to handhelds.org wiki - OpenEmbedded has own wiki Mar 28 10:00:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb8673c2b... 10/packages/grub/grub_0.93.bb: grub: substitute the anonymous python function w/ COMPATIBLE_HOST Mar 28 10:00:14 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc3210cd1... 10/packages/python/ (3 files): add python-psyco, a specializing compiler Mar 28 10:00:56 hrw|work, : i'm a bit lost with the difference between the both community Mar 28 10:01:33 since i speak of that on #handhelds.org and koen|away said to ask here Mar 28 10:01:38 hum ... Mar 28 10:01:43 Genesis: handhelds.org is centered on handhelds/palmtops Mar 28 10:02:40 Genesis: openembedded is hosted currently by handhelds.org but it is not centered on handhelds/palmtops - we also cover routers, devboards, misc embedded devices Mar 28 10:03:31 i prefer the handhelds.org Mar 28 10:03:48 i find OE wiki is redondant since we can do all in the same Mar 28 10:04:14 with different section Mar 28 10:04:25 elinux.com/wiki is another too Mar 28 10:04:53 http://elinux.org/wiki/ Mar 28 10:05:03 understable Mar 28 10:06:10 thats why OE version of SupportedHardwareTargets could be rather info like "machine XYZ from vendor YUS is handled in OE as MACHINE='xyz-yus' and it cover also ZXC from SOE and XYZ2 from YUS" Mar 28 10:08:25 and additionally: 'xyz-yus' is maintained by Joe Bar in DISTRO="xyzoe" - more info on http://xyzoe.org/ Mar 28 10:09:44 but a same board could be the base for handhelds device or a routers Mar 28 10:10:23 understable Mar 28 10:11:09 i don't this work , my both dictionaries too Mar 28 10:11:13 word Mar 28 10:11:29 understand-able Mar 28 10:11:37 my english grammar suxx Mar 28 10:12:15 hrw|work: its probably better than mine :-) Mar 28 10:12:32 can't be worse that mine ;) Mar 28 10:12:56 I thinked after readed that book. Mar 28 10:16:04 Genesis: it xyz was used as base for xxy2 router then info could be added to xyz info. I suppose that such router would get new MACHINE='xxy2' which will be based on 'xyz-yus' one Mar 28 10:17:18 that don't solve my pb Mar 28 10:19:46 dissolve information doesnt encourage to participate Mar 28 10:20:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbdc84722... 10/packages/uicmoc/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 28 10:20:33 uicmoc 2.3.10, 3.3.5: add patch to make it build on 64bit platforms. Mar 28 10:20:33 Thanks Darren Edmundson for writing the patch and Eric Shattow for testing. Mar 28 10:21:15 Genesis: I would move discussion to mailing list - others can have ideas Mar 28 10:21:35 oki i shall to suscribe Mar 28 10:21:44 which mailing list ? OE , handhelds ? Mar 28 10:21:54 which discussion ? Mar 28 10:22:00 haha ... Mar 28 10:22:52 oe@handhelds.org Mar 28 10:23:10 I guess mickeyl is skiving his phd :-) Mar 28 10:23:13 oki i do that after the lunch Mar 28 10:23:18 http://oe.handhelds.org/contribution.php need rewrite Mar 28 10:24:00 http://oe.handhelds.org/contact.php is proper Mar 28 10:24:17 handhelds.oe.org would be more relevant for me :þ Mar 28 10:24:41 * Genesis brb Mar 28 10:25:31 removed contribution.php from left menu Mar 28 10:26:17 mickey for teh win. Mar 28 10:28:34 heh, in the midst of all this writing, i needed a short coding break :D Mar 28 10:29:00 mickey|writing: heh cool Mar 28 10:29:41 hi mickey|writing Mar 28 10:30:14 mickey|writing: and what YOU say about openzaurus.org new layout? Mar 28 10:30:14 mickey|writing: you should have wasted all those OZ days on a PHD generating AI bot Mar 28 10:30:46 hi, building some package against libxml2 fails while configure because libxml2-config is not found, where should it be installed in do_staging()? Mar 28 10:32:27 in another package i have to provide a configure option --with-apr= , I use --with-apr=${STAGING_DIR}/i686-linux , is there a better more standard conform solution? Mar 28 10:34:57 sws: ${STAGING_BINDIR} I beleive Mar 28 10:40:08 hrw|work: i need to get used to, because I'm a 3 column guy, but it's definitly less cluttered than the old version Mar 28 10:40:37 XorA: heh, that's true. Actually If I had spend 50% of the time I worked on OZ during those last 5 years on my Ph.D it would've been finished since long Mar 28 10:40:38 heh Mar 28 10:40:41 bbl, lunch time Mar 28 10:41:07 mickey|writing: we need to update developers page a bit - add all current devs, add past ones would be great too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 28 10:59:56 2006