**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 31 10:59:57 2006 Mar 31 11:10:24 RP: cool Mar 31 12:16:39 hrw|work: could you add matchbox-applet-cards from .dev to the 3.5.4(.x) feeds? Mar 31 12:17:52 probably Mar 31 12:19:17 do we have a plugin to panel which adds taskbar? Mar 31 12:19:29 sort off Mar 31 12:19:41 gpe-buttonbox should be able to do that, but needs some sane configs Mar 31 12:19:42 mb-applet-tasks? Mar 31 12:20:01 ah right, I added that :) Mar 31 12:20:13 btw - it should be matchbox-applet-tasks rather? Mar 31 12:20:33 yes, those pdaX people don't have consistent naming Mar 31 12:24:08 koen: but do we have to repeat this? Mar 31 12:25:06 hrw|work: we don't have to Mar 31 12:25:15 I just didn't think about it when I added it Mar 31 12:25:46 why do people need a taskbar in the panel anyway? Mar 31 12:25:49 happens Mar 31 12:25:55 there is one in the titlebar.... Mar 31 12:26:36 its faster Mar 31 12:27:25 The one in the titlebar would be fine if you patched matchbox so that it's still visible when the desktop is showing. Mar 31 12:28:37 on the desktop you have the tasks vfolder, right? Mar 31 12:28:43 That said, you do also have the swoosh key, and it wouldn't be hard to implement a popup tasklist in the panel. Mar 31 12:29:19 didn't florian patch gpe-taskmgr (or whatever it's called) to switch to running apps as well? Mar 31 12:29:26 You do have the tasks vfolder, but most real users have trouble understanding it. Almost everyone who sees "Active Tasks" thinks it's something related to the to-do list. Mar 31 12:29:52 Yes, he did. In fact, gpe-taskmanager has been able to switch between tasks for a while, but florian patched it to do that more thoroughly. Mar 31 12:31:15 ~curse gtk fro fscked libtool Mar 31 12:31:18 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, gtk fro fscked libtool ! Mar 31 12:32:11 to build mt-applet-task I need to build gtk again.. which means building atk, pango, glib2 too ;( Mar 31 12:32:19 fsck Mar 31 12:39:44 bbl Mar 31 12:43:15 argh... Mar 31 12:43:24 ~kill gtk and company Mar 31 12:43:26 * ibot shoots a hyper-charged fluxgraviton gun at gtk and company Mar 31 12:45:42 RP: congratz. Tosa led patch is on the way to linus. thx Mar 31 12:46:44 do13_: finally made it :) Mar 31 12:47:32 Hey Liam Mar 31 12:47:40 Hi Dirk Mar 31 12:47:58 hi Liam Mar 31 12:48:06 Hi Richard Mar 31 12:49:00 RP: Boku has found a bug in th 31 driver. It only effects master mode so afaik c7x0 should be ok Mar 31 12:49:56 lrg: Ah, I hope it wasn't my original code at fault :-/. I still haven't had a chance to debug input on the c7x0 yet... Mar 31 12:50:50 RP: I think it's something when I refactored a bit and copied from the 8750. It's nothing major Mar 31 12:51:26 RP: do you know if your going to CELF yet ? Mar 31 12:52:28 lrg: As things stand, I think I've too much work on... Mar 31 12:52:34 lrg: Which airline are you using btw? Mar 31 12:52:49 (I couldn't find any semi direct flights from EDI) Mar 31 12:53:07 RP: I'm flying with Continental from EDI via Newark Mar 31 12:53:48 what do you think about CELF lrg ? Mar 31 12:53:53 RP: It's splits a long 13h direct flight up quite nicely :) Mar 31 12:54:00 is it a good thing for linux embedded developers ? Mar 31 12:54:42 Genesis, I think it will be a good conference. Plenty of people to meet. CosmicPenguin is also going. Mar 31 12:55:01 Genesis, are you in the San Jose area ? Mar 31 12:55:19 ho no Mar 31 12:55:29 i was speaking about CELF linux Mar 31 12:55:52 lrg: I read the gpio status of the mask pin. It toggles. So there must be something wrong inside the driver. Mar 31 12:56:00 i'm a bit too far of San Jose , i'm in europa Mar 31 12:56:31 Genesis, I think they have got some really good ideas. They have a lot of papers on the main site and are open to feedback. Mar 31 12:56:44 lrg: I hope I can debug this over the weekend Mar 31 12:56:59 when i see the company works on it , i fear Mar 31 12:57:09 do13, ok I'll see what I can find out. It may require some other bits to be set. Mar 31 12:57:31 lrg: thx Mar 31 12:59:51 lrg: thanks, I'll see how that airline stacks up Mar 31 13:00:14 RP: there pretty good. No complaints from me. Mar 31 13:00:44 do13, I have an apps note to send you on the mask pins. It should be helpful. Mar 31 13:03:41 hrw|work: you should receive a mail soon, and I hope you'll find it nice ;) Mar 31 13:07:32 lrg: you are talking about 'ADA and MASK Timing on WM9712'? Mar 31 13:09:47 obergix[work]: ThX Mar 31 13:10:09 hrw|work: you're welcome... it's the least users can do ;) Mar 31 13:11:46 obergix[work]: looks like I will buy sd card soon (or will get one from one of oz users) Mar 31 13:12:25 do13, I mean general notes on using the device. Mar 31 13:15:14 do13, also includes ADA and MASK pins :) Mar 31 13:15:14 lrg: ahhh. thx. Mar 31 13:19:38 RP: OZ 3.5.4.1-alpha1 works on terrier Mar 31 13:20:16 hrw|work: Neat. We can be the first distro to claim terrier support then :) Mar 31 13:20:21 yes Mar 31 13:20:30 RP: I plan to add post on oz.org about it Mar 31 13:20:40 I can also patch that into the kernel Kconfig options :) Mar 31 13:21:57 yep Mar 31 13:22:07 and I can push updater.sh with terrier support Mar 31 13:22:22 terrier? Mar 31 13:22:23 +if [ "$MODEL" != "SL-C3000" ] && [ "$MODEL" != "SL-C3100" ] && [ "$MODEL" != "SL-C3200" ] Mar 31 13:22:26 ~terrier Mar 31 13:22:29 which model's that.. 3200? Mar 31 13:22:33 yes Mar 31 13:22:34 extra, extra, read all about it, terrier is Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, or a dog Mar 31 13:22:40 Ah :) Mar 31 13:23:27 RP: can I mt drop borzoi from .oz354x so we will have collie/poodle/tosa/c7x0/akita/spitz only? Mar 31 13:23:50 hrw|work: Yes Mar 31 13:26:11 lrg: cool. thx for the mail:) Mar 31 13:26:53 do13, np, there is a note on the ada and mask that should be usefull. :) Mar 31 13:29:01 lrg: yeah. I found this already on the web. Mar 31 13:29:37 do13, cool Mar 31 13:45:33 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/03/31/sl-c3200-terrier-support/ Mar 31 13:47:21 While trying to bitbake stuff I get: *** Error: Package name contains illegal characters, (other than [a-z0-9.+-]), any ideas? Mar 31 13:49:04 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r03120bdb... 10/packages/ (26 files in 22 dirs): Mar 31 13:49:04 Dropped Borzoi (SL-C3100) from packages - we unite all c3x00 models into spitz.conf Mar 31 13:49:04 - sl-c3000/c3100/c3200 are handled as one machine Mar 31 13:49:04 - they only differ in flash size/type Mar 31 13:49:04 - one kernel is used on all of them Mar 31 13:49:05 - we boot from microdrive not flash Mar 31 13:49:09 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r464bc6e5... 10/conf/machine/spitz.conf: spitz.conf: add gpe-filemanager into gpe-image Mar 31 13:49:13 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r63c2ad6b... 10/conf/machine/ (terrier.conf borzoi.conf): borzoi.conf/terrier.conf: add warning as those machines are now supported as spitz Mar 31 13:51:38 * hrw|work want cherrypicker...... Mar 31 13:52:46 hrw|work: how do you choose what packages are in OZ and which are not ? Mar 31 13:53:13 ade|desk: we provided all from .oz354fam083 into OZ 3.5.4 feeds Mar 31 13:53:32 hmm ok Mar 31 13:54:13 ade|desk: then we switched to .oz354x to not interfere with familiar guys Mar 31 13:54:57 will go a searching then Mar 31 13:59:32 is ewi alive ? Mar 31 14:00:02 yes Mar 31 14:00:48 strange, vanille's viewmtn doesn't do manifest and i can't get at ewi :( Mar 31 14:16:09 morning Mar 31 14:18:39 do13_: hrw|work : Good news, I was just allowed by ROAD to make the keyboard changes public Mar 31 14:18:46 GREAT Mar 31 14:18:49 do13_: hrw|work : I will add them over the weekend Mar 31 14:18:52 back to writing Mar 31 14:18:56 ~hail zecke and road bosses Mar 31 14:18:58 * ibot bows down to zecke and road bosses and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Mar 31 14:19:32 hrw|work: ATM I can only add them to the GPL version of QtE Mar 31 14:19:40 hrw|work: but this isn't a problem for us now :) Mar 31 14:19:52 cya Mar 31 14:19:55 cu Mar 31 14:30:23 hi is it possible to make a build with lvm in to mount /home /root as 1 drive (5600) Mar 31 14:38:27 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra38bf03b... 10/packages/ (glib-2.0/glib-2.0_2.10.1.bb pango/pango_1.12.0.bb): Mar 31 14:38:27 glib-2.0_2.10.1.bb, pango_1.12.0.bb : lower preference of these until they Mar 31 14:38:27 play nice with our apps. Mar 31 14:44:19 ~ewi Mar 31 14:44:20 ewi is probably ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Mar 31 14:44:50 i wonder what is up with ewi Mar 31 14:47:36 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r3e4782ed... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (5 files): Mar 31 14:47:36 sylpheed_2.2.4.bb : added newest version of sylpheed, changed MAINTAINER Mar 31 14:47:36 to me with permission. Mar 31 14:47:36 sylpheed_2*.bb : removed old versions Mar 31 15:00:24 hi Mar 31 15:00:26 <_law_> any ideas why i get 1000 of this errors: Mar 31 15:00:28 <_law_> ERROR: too many values to unpack while parsing /home/law/devel/oe/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/iptables/iptables_1.2.9.bb Mar 31 15:01:38 _law_: updated bitbake? Mar 31 15:01:45 <_law_> hrw|work: yes svn Mar 31 15:01:51 interestingly, gnumeric compiles fine on akita and fails in collie Mar 31 15:01:55 <_law_> clear cache again? Mar 31 15:01:59 _law_: then clean cache? Mar 31 15:02:50 <_law_> hrw|work: looks better Mar 31 15:09:11 cu Mar 31 15:31:02 * chouimat is away: shower Mar 31 15:58:15 CoreDump|home: what you say! Mar 31 15:58:38 AYBABTU! Mar 31 16:04:27 lrg: yep - CELF should be fun Mar 31 16:05:00 CosmicPenguin, indeed, we'll have to go out for some beers :) Mar 31 16:06:05 CosmicPenguin, btw I'm booked in at the Hilton Mar 31 16:06:53 lrg: I'm at the marriott Mar 31 16:24:18 Hi Mar 31 16:24:23 do13, online? Mar 31 16:28:50 do13: in case you read this later, javascript is 'kinda' fixed since r524518 Mar 31 16:29:17 jnc: ? Mar 31 16:49:07 sorry if this is a common question- but i have been away for awhile. i am getting errors like these: Mar 31 16:49:15 ERROR: 'str' object has no attribute 'keys' while parsing /data/slug/ucslugc/openembedded/packages/zlib/zlib-native_1.2.3.bb Mar 31 16:49:36 any suggestions? Mar 31 16:51:14 * NAiL suggests updating bitbake Mar 31 17:02:17 I've compiled an image w/ a wrong PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-conf. What do I need to rebuild after setting the correct value? Something _still_ pulls in the wrong provider Mar 31 17:18:40 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r673bca92... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (3 files): sylpheed_*.bb : drop some more old versions with permission from pb_ Mar 31 17:20:39 nm, got it Mar 31 17:55:37 now I'm insane Mar 31 17:55:47 just kidding, I was insane before as well Mar 31 17:59:52 hail zecke Mar 31 18:00:00 thanks for the sanity bulletin Mar 31 18:00:34 pb_: you are welcome Mar 31 18:01:13 pb_: The Department of My Sanity should have some colors to indicate my sanity Mar 31 18:01:49 good thinking Mar 31 18:01:55 presumably just several different types of red Mar 31 18:02:31 right, and then some one can write a maemo plugin Mar 31 18:03:02 I have turned in the paper, It is crap but I hope nobody notices it Mar 31 18:04:07 heh Mar 31 18:04:08 very good Mar 31 18:08:43 What is a good mp3 player in OE? Mar 31 18:09:24 rhythmbox Mar 31 18:09:31 pb_: thnaks Mar 31 18:10:10 NAiL, tried that. no dice Mar 31 18:11:27 Ok... who is guy with a twisted sense of humor that assigned F1 to be the "open file" shortcut on mp3blaster?! Mar 31 18:11:43 hrw|gone: ewi should work again Mar 31 18:11:52 How do I generate the F1 code with the virtual keyboard? Mar 31 18:12:07 btw, I noticed that the tremor has some packaging problems. It did not create ipk at all. Mar 31 18:12:18 hi koen Mar 31 18:12:27 and others :-) Mar 31 18:12:27 hey lamikr Mar 31 18:12:27 hello koen Mar 31 18:12:43 ~lart KPN and stupid NAT/WIFI/VOIP router boxes Mar 31 18:12:43 * ibot acting on orders from an unspecified client drags KPN and stupid NAT/WIFI/VOIP router boxes into court suing for $200 million Mar 31 18:12:45 hey poli Mar 31 18:13:09 koen: oh what happened to ewi? Mar 31 18:13:31 zecke: afaik nothing, but people were having problems according to scollback Mar 31 18:13:33 Is there anyway to generate teh F1 key code using the virtual keyboard? Is there some way to generate it at all? Mar 31 18:13:44 scrollback* Mar 31 18:13:52 poli: the Opie one should have a F1? Mar 31 18:14:18 zecke: opie isn't an option. :( I have a 4700. Mar 31 18:14:51 poli: Opie is portable, port it Mar 31 18:15:21 zecke: I know, has some touch screen issues with the 4700 TS driver as far as I know. Mar 31 18:16:06 poli: I guess you need to add an f1 key to the layout you are using. Mar 31 18:17:18 pb_: yeah. Second program that I use that needs F-keys. First is mc. Mar 31 18:17:22 poli: it uses tslib for the touchscreen, it can't have more troubles than X Mar 31 18:18:00 For now, I first need to get sound working... :( Mar 31 18:18:06 Thanks all. Mar 31 18:18:53 zecke: you will if you hardcode the wrong /dev/input/event Mar 31 18:19:12 zecke: I can send my explanation and proposed fix again to opie-devel Mar 31 18:19:23 koen: that is still the wrong place Mar 31 18:19:26 zecke: so the opie people can ignore it again Mar 31 18:19:42 koen: first it is QtE that opens the TS Mar 31 18:19:55 koen: and it only honors a environment variable Mar 31 18:20:12 koen: and well, let us use detect-stylus to set this var... Mar 31 18:20:24 zecke: that was my proposed fix Mar 31 18:21:16 koen: and I don't feel responsible for doing this :} Mar 31 18:21:25 zecke: me neither Mar 31 18:21:37 zecke: I bet lorn will explode, start fudding, etc Mar 31 18:22:14 koen: well Opie only provides an example start script, OE has different scripts... Mar 31 18:22:28 OT: is dropbear directly calling xauth? Mar 31 18:22:42 or is it a script? Mar 31 18:24:32 I think it calls it directly. Mar 31 18:25:28 presumably you could replace the xauth binary with a script that calls opie-xauth, though, if you needed to. Mar 31 18:34:01 debian unstable's rxvt-unicode doesnt support xft: font dclrations in -fn Mar 31 18:34:07 had to steal ubuntu dapper's Mar 31 18:34:10 silly thing Mar 31 18:34:12 wonder why Mar 31 18:35:02 kergoth: that's odd, I'm sure it worked for me in debian the other day Mar 31 18:35:39 my fonts all work ... Mar 31 18:35:51 even my opentype ones Mar 31 18:38:16 oh yeah, the latest one does seem to be broken Mar 31 18:38:17 urxvt -fn 'xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:pixelsize=12' errors here Mar 31 18:38:18 crazy debian Mar 31 18:38:23 hehe. crazy indeed Mar 31 18:38:29 doesn't make any effort to open anything font-related, it seems Mar 31 18:38:35 my eyes werent too happy with me, i got spoiled using a decent terminal font Mar 31 18:40:52 heh, right. gotta have a decent font if you're gonna be staring at it all day. Mar 31 18:47:45 hi for a moment(s) Mar 31 18:50:24 hrw: hi Mar 31 19:08:40 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18594 - another devel decided to not wasting time on qpdf2 Mar 31 19:17:35 hrw, anything better than qpd2? With annotateability? Mar 31 19:17:47 BTW: I have the beginning (working) port of KPDF to Qtopia at my ROAD desktop... Mar 31 19:17:58 shame I wasn't only twice at their office this year :} Mar 31 19:19:53 polyonymous: qpdf2 stinks badly Mar 31 19:20:12 hrw, But the question is still unanswered... Mar 31 19:20:27 qtopia... I want to get rid of it but keep opie stuff.... Mar 31 19:21:01 polyonymous: qtopia world is dying - no new apps for it - only new small tools etc... Mar 31 19:21:25 Yes. But the question is what can I replace qpdf with without losing features. Mar 31 19:21:46 hrw: will you include a fat konqueror embedded in OZ 3.5.4.1? Mar 31 19:21:51 not in qtopia enviroments Mar 31 19:21:57 zecke|food: 3.5.x? why not Mar 31 19:22:25 hrw, do you mean one should go for gpe, instead of opie? Mar 31 19:22:31 zecke|food: users will be excited enough about new web browser Mar 31 19:23:24 polyonymous: no - I would like to get opie/x11 ;P Mar 31 19:23:35 hrw, so would I :)) Mar 31 19:25:57 cu Mar 31 19:25:59 make menuconfig -> X11 Mar 31 19:26:38 cya Mar 31 19:27:35 any OpenOffice expert around? Mar 31 19:31:25 zecke: How much does the kpdf eat memory for you? Mar 31 19:32:11 lamikr: I have not measured it, it was acceptable Mar 31 19:33:17 Nice to hear. I like very much from the kpdf in my desktop. Too bad that qpe does not support x yet. Mar 31 19:34:26 lamikr: what are you talking about? Mar 31 19:35:02 lamikr: http://handhelds.org/~zecke/pics/screenshots/opie/images.html Mar 31 19:35:21 lamikr: Opie ran fine on X11 in 2001 and 2002, there was no interest in it though Mar 31 19:37:38 zecke|food: clearly ahead of its time Mar 31 19:38:26 zecke: Yes, I remembered the heated discussions from that topic. I just have somekind of attitude problem in that. I just like X, simply nice X :-) Mar 31 19:39:02 lamikr: there was no heated discussions, there was no feedback at all Mar 31 19:39:28 lamikr: Opie is portable, it would even run on WinCE - when Qt finally runs on this platform Mar 31 19:40:55 zecke: I am sure that there were at least couple of times threads arguing whether X is just the performance problem or not. Maybe it was in some other place than handheld list. Mar 31 19:41:10 so, are there any plans for opie-x11-image? Mar 31 19:41:50 polyonymous: cd opie, make menuconfig, select X11, make Mar 31 19:42:11 speaking of X... /oe/tmp/staging/i686-oe-linux-uclibc/include/stdio.h:46: error: conflicting types for 'XF86FILE' Mar 31 19:42:18 zecke: Isn't it so that in theory it should be easy to replace a small port of eQT (or whatever was the name of the library) with a version from it's big brother with X support. The api was supposed to be pretty same, one implementation just without X. Mar 31 19:42:48 zecke|food, would that get me an opie image for zaurus? :)) Mar 31 19:43:09 polyonymous: Opie doesn't buildsystem does not create images Mar 31 19:43:22 polyonymous: only styling and IPC will not work Mar 31 19:43:23 Yes. that's why I asked about opie-x11-image Mar 31 19:43:38 oh well. I got your idea. Mar 31 19:43:40 polyonymous: IPC will work if you build zecke IPC or port it to d-bus Mar 31 19:44:12 In short - no plans for opie-x11 at this moment :) Mar 31 19:44:19 polyonymous: what idea? I told you how to compile Opie for Qt/X11 Mar 31 19:44:24 polyonymous: do you have some? Mar 31 19:44:31 polyonymous: I guess you should feel free to make your own plans. Mar 31 19:44:39 Yes, I was asking about getting one for OZ. Mar 31 19:44:41 polyonymous: once my time permits it, I will have PIM on Qt4 Mar 31 19:44:45 pb_, I agree completely with you here. Mar 31 19:45:28 polyonymous: the situation has not changed. 98% of Opie is compilable against Qt2/X11 Mar 31 19:45:40 polyonymous: matchbox supports the Ok/Cancel handling - thanks to mallum Mar 31 19:45:54 polyonymous: there is no interest in Opie/X11 though Mar 31 19:46:00 stdio makes no reference to X86.. its just generic file code! Mar 31 19:46:01 - besides randomly talking about it Mar 31 19:46:12 damn I hate OpenOffice calc Mar 31 19:46:25 zecke|food, Yes, but OE tree lacks support for such build. But then again, as pb_ pointed out - if I'm interested, I should take care about it. Mar 31 19:46:33 TheMasterMind1: inspect your sources for "#define FILE XF86FILE" Mar 31 19:46:57 But, one step at a time, after almost months of experiments with chrooted oz, I should first move on to flashing it. Mar 31 19:47:01 polyonymous: right Mar 31 19:47:03 month, that was. Mar 31 19:47:37 if you give me around two million dollar, I would stop with Uni Mar 31 19:47:51 and well maybe even add Opie/X11 to OE Mar 31 19:47:56 zecke|food: yeah, oo.org calc sucks. alias knumeric=gnumeric and try that. Mar 31 19:48:07 zecke|food, if I had that money I'd do it myself. Mar 31 19:48:49 pb_: =SUM(December!B1) isn't working... Mar 31 19:50:39 *yeah* Mar 31 19:53:02 hey mallum Mar 31 19:54:59 ok so X does an undef FILE and defines FILE as its own XF86FILE type, but stdio is included later on so the previous declaration error comes up. should i patch the one file to include stdio? or use -include stdio.h as a CFLAG? Mar 31 20:04:23 hey zecke|food Mar 31 20:11:26 TheMasterMind1: probably the former Mar 31 20:16:31 aaargh Mar 31 20:16:41 koen: yeah? Mar 31 20:16:42 ~lart firmware autoupdate for routers Mar 31 20:16:42 * ibot rm -rf's firmware autoupdate for routers Mar 31 20:17:15 after I got this new router to work at my parents house it called home Mar 31 20:17:34 fun Mar 31 20:17:36 now I have to wait for some support dude to click the right button Mar 31 20:17:42 during office hours..... Mar 31 20:18:04 * koen is bound to cat5 now Mar 31 20:18:34 normally I would resort to drinking beer Mar 31 20:20:35 argh! Mar 31 20:20:36 pubcvs.arm.linux.org.uk(212.18.232.187):2401 failed: No route to host Mar 31 20:20:47 ~lart AOL Mar 31 20:20:47 * ibot puts AOL into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of AOL's hair of Mar 31 20:20:51 JustinP: it has been down for a while now Mar 31 20:21:06 JustinP: it also means that you can't submit patches for 2.6.17 Mar 31 20:22:55 partx rocks Mar 31 20:26:04 later all Mar 31 20:26:51 koen|away: 2.6.17 of? Mar 31 20:26:58 koen|away: I don't suppose you have a tarball of tslib? Mar 31 20:33:21 hey Mar 31 20:33:39 mickeyl|bbl: hey Mar 31 20:33:41 does anyone have a fix or an idea for the following thing: Mar 31 20:33:57 | arm-linux-gcc: /local/pkg/oe/spitz/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/.libs/libXt.so: File not Found Mar 31 20:34:04 why the h*** is it looking in that odd place? Mar 31 20:34:09 and who's responsible? Mar 31 20:34:12 "Lass uns die Mexikaner aus der Stadt jagen" Mr. Garrison Mar 31 20:34:19 mickeyl|bbl: libtool Mar 31 20:34:36 mickeyl|bbl: the .la points to that location Mar 31 20:35:17 zecke: how can i verify that? Mar 31 20:35:47 mickeyl|bbl: grep (-i) for libXt in la files Mar 31 20:36:01 * mickeyl|bbl is doing that Mar 31 20:36:18 mickeyl|bbl: alternatively we can apply the plan of Mr. garrison Mar 31 20:38:40 So, tomorrow I'm going to flash OZ. I'm running cacko now - what should I do about partitioning before flashing oz? Mar 31 20:39:00 polyonymous: *dunno* Mar 31 20:39:11 thank you :)) Mar 31 20:39:31 polyonymous: #openzaurus might have more answers Mar 31 20:39:42 indeed, wrong channel :) Mar 31 20:42:23 zecke: bummer, that looks good Mar 31 20:42:30 libXt.la:# libXt.la - a libtool library file Mar 31 20:42:30 libXt.la:dlname='libXt.so.6' Mar 31 20:42:30 libXt.la:library_names='libXt.so.6.0.0 libXt.so.6 libXt.so' Mar 31 20:42:30 libXt.la:old_library='libXt.a' Mar 31 20:42:30 libXt.la:# Version information for libXt. Mar 31 20:42:38 i can't find the lib/.libs path anywhere in staging Mar 31 20:42:42 *sigh* Mar 31 20:43:39 * mickeyl|bbl hates sudden breakage Mar 31 20:44:16 mickeyl|bbl: upload that file please Mar 31 20:44:32 you want to see libXt.la ? Mar 31 20:44:32 mickeyl|bbl: and what package are you building? Mar 31 20:44:34 tetex Mar 31 20:45:42 yes Mar 31 20:45:57 mickeyl|bbl: and is tetex using autotools? Mar 31 20:46:08 yes, tetex is an autotools package Mar 31 20:46:11 mickeyl|bbl: in that case give me a config.log as well Mar 31 20:46:17 mickeyl|bbl: is it using pkg-config as well? Mar 31 20:46:27 mickeyl|bbl: in that case find a libXt.pc as well :} Mar 31 20:46:49 no, solely autotools Mar 31 20:46:56 i'll upload the stuff to vanille Mar 31 20:51:53 hail mickeyl|bbl Mar 31 20:52:00 mm, that .libs thing is weird. Mar 31 20:53:10 http://vanille.de/temp/tetex/ contains some files Mar 31 20:53:11 why is tetex in need for libXt anyway? Mar 31 20:53:12 hi pb_ Mar 31 20:53:20 zecke: tetex contains xdvi and stuff Mar 31 20:53:22 zecke: xdvi Mar 31 20:53:39 * chouimat is back. Mar 31 20:54:03 *cough* sorry "Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden Mar 31 20:54:09 = File not found Mar 31 20:54:09 I guess you could just turn that off: xdvi is pretty sucky anyway Mar 31 20:54:09 heh Mar 31 20:54:30 pb_: libdir=/usr/lib sounds wrong as well :} Mar 31 20:54:32 heh, right. an uneasy feeling remains though Mar 31 20:54:47 zecke: really? I think that's correct Mar 31 20:55:14 pb_: okay, if you say that :) Mar 31 20:55:20 mickeyl|bbl: might be worth checking that you're getting the oe libtool bits, not some other version Mar 31 20:55:25 pb_: the .libs smells like libtool though Mar 31 20:55:35 besides, i have spotted that .libs problem in other places as well. just not recently Mar 31 20:55:41 pb_: how could I check that? Mar 31 20:55:43 zecke: right Mar 31 20:55:55 mickeyl|bbl: configure log Mar 31 20:56:12 mickeyl|bbl: and see if there is a libtool copy in the tetex directory Mar 31 20:56:26 mickeyl|bbl: compare the generated libtool in your tetex build tree to the one from another package (preferably one that works) Mar 31 20:56:49 if there are differences, it probably means that tetex has some libtool macros concealed in acinclude.m4 or similar places Mar 31 20:56:53 "preferably one that works" that is a good one Mar 31 20:57:26 thanks. I'll be away for 1h and then I start to dig Mar 31 20:57:27 bbl Mar 31 20:57:32 righto Mar 31 22:05:12 pb_: fwiw, matchbox doesn't need to be patched to have a decorated desktop. just run matchbox-desktop in managed mode. Mar 31 22:05:46 reenoo: doesn't that cause you to get a fully-decorated desktop, though, with a close icon and everything? Mar 31 22:06:03 pb_: let me check. don't think so. Mar 31 22:06:25 ah, okay, maybe I'm remembering it wrong Mar 31 22:06:36 if so, that does sound like a good solution for the task switching thing Mar 31 22:06:37 http://handhelds.org/scap/html.cgi?fn=port.28983.png Mar 31 22:07:07 that's with a couple of applets in there too Mar 31 22:07:12 oh, right, very good Mar 31 22:07:29 (note that it's not a current scap) Mar 31 22:08:51 and IIRC there were some issues with drawing the desktop in managed mode Mar 31 22:10:04 probably just some (fixable) bad assumptions on window size etc. Mar 31 22:33:24 how do i build 3.5.4 for the 5600 do i build on Z or can i use a live linux distro ? Mar 31 22:49:03 does anybody know of a tool to create either msdos-styled partition tables or vfat partitions in the genext2fs way, i.e. without kernel support? I want to create a bootable CF card image as an image target.. Mar 31 22:49:59 hmm... maybe mtools can help? Never bothered to see if they use kernel support. Mar 31 22:50:15 But I don't think mtools have to do with partition tables. Mar 31 22:50:54 And... do you think booting msdos filesystem makes sense? Mar 31 22:51:25 tmbinc: use dd to write the partition schme? Mar 31 22:51:37 tmbinc: the dosfstools in OE has a patch do do exactly that Mar 31 22:51:44 ah good Mar 31 22:52:08 To create a fatfs from a directory that is Mar 31 22:52:37 But what's the point? Mar 31 22:52:42 ah nice Mar 31 22:52:44 tmbinc: this is what I do to create a CF card image Mar 31 22:52:46 Isn't it asking for troubles? Mar 31 22:52:48 yeah that's what i needed Mar 31 22:52:54 1) build syslinux Mar 31 22:52:58 2) create a dos partition Mar 31 22:53:07 with my kernel Mar 31 22:53:12