**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 04 02:59:56 2006 Jun 04 03:00:21 One of the projects here at work is a simple web-based app, nowhere near the complexity of a processor.. requirements spec/high level design is ~200 pages. Jun 04 03:00:56 NAbyss_: hmm ? Jun 04 03:01:15 CSMan: Was just replying to Jshanab about the 1300 page PDF.. Jun 04 03:01:30 oh Jun 04 03:01:33 ic Jun 04 03:01:59 bah, to study for my software engineering 1st exam, i had to study 800 slides. Jun 04 03:02:18 that's a lot of coverage Jun 04 03:02:29 yeah, nobody did the exam hehe Jun 04 03:02:59 wonder how the 2nd will be Jun 04 06:29:11 f pro is opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress? Jun 04 06:29:12 :) Jun 04 06:30:30 A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station... Jun 04 06:33:14 heh Jun 04 06:59:06 mithro, conquest the RC has demonstrated this many times Jun 04 06:59:43 ? Jun 04 06:59:55 or argumetitivly you could also say congress Jun 04 07:00:12 both suppress progress and change Jun 04 07:01:17 burt i still thek the roman catholic church is the right answer Jun 04 07:01:20 think* Jun 04 07:01:41 and with that sleep too Jun 04 07:56:52 can somebody send me an email? Jun 04 07:57:05 Yep? Jun 04 08:04:07 mithro AT mithis DOT com Jun 04 08:05:04 mithro: Should be on the way Jun 04 08:06:38 NAbyss_: your Ben Stewart? Jun 04 08:10:32 mithro: Ja Jun 04 08:10:45 you work at Bosch? Jun 04 08:10:51 Yep Jun 04 08:13:41 what you do there? Jun 04 08:13:58 Internal application development Jun 04 08:14:11 Work on some of the testing equipment Jun 04 08:15:31 you like it there? Jun 04 08:16:32 Yeah, I don't mind it too much... there's the inevitable management bullshit you get at any large company, but the people I work with are good. Only real complaint is the managment attitude against open source, and doing the job right. Jun 04 08:36:09 <_bambam> hi Jun 04 08:37:09 <_bambam> i got a problem related to gcc-3.4.4 buildin for distro=ezx, breakin on: http://pastebin.com/757187 Jun 04 08:37:19 <_bambam> is this known? Jun 04 09:02:54 <_bambam> btw, what happened to bugs.oe.o, bugzilla down? Jun 04 09:12:59 'morning Jun 04 09:13:07 <_bambam> moin cyrilRomain Jun 04 09:15:52 hi Jun 04 09:39:38 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r32d211ea... 10/packages/libosip2/libosip2_2.2.2.bb: libosip2: Add libosip2 2.2.2, the GNU oSIP (RFC3261) library. Jun 04 10:03:31 hi koen Jun 04 10:05:40 hey hrw Jun 04 10:06:09 koen: did you tried to build gcc 4.1.1 for target? Jun 04 10:06:23 <_bambam> hi koen Jun 04 10:06:38 <_bambam> koen: could you please try buildin gcc-3.4.4? Jun 04 10:07:00 hrw: I'm pretty sure I did Jun 04 10:07:05 <_bambam> heh, gcc seems to be a likkle mess after all Jun 04 10:07:26 hrw: let me boot my workstation Jun 04 10:07:36 koen: I have a feeling that 3.4.4 is fscked - want to know about others Jun 04 10:13:16 I know gcc 4.0.2 builds Jun 04 10:15:17 4.0.2 built with 4.0.2? Jun 04 10:15:27 yes Jun 04 10:15:40 <_bambam> hmm, it won't here Jun 04 10:15:45 not on amd64 Jun 04 10:16:11 <_bambam> hrw: also problems with gcov-io? Jun 04 10:16:33 | /home/hrw/devel/build/dev/tmp/work/arm-linux/gcc-4.0.2-r2/gcc-4.0.2/gcc/libgcc2.c:1815: error: 'stderr' undeclared (first us Jun 04 10:18:13 <_bambam> hrw: i fixed this in replacin #include with "/stdio.h" Jun 04 10:18:34 <_bambam> hrw: but the problem is struct gcov_var Jun 04 10:21:02 maybe - but I have to check why gcc 3.4.4 is not buildable too Jun 04 10:22:59 Packaged contents of gcc into /media/hda4/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/gcc_4.1.1-r0_armv5te.ipk Jun 04 10:23:29 koen: on x86? Jun 04 10:23:48 Linux lieve 2.6.15-23-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:20:54 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Jun 04 10:25:03 <_bambam> hrw: 3.4.4 breaks on the same issue here Jun 04 10:28:16 looks like gcc need -I ${STAGING_INCDIR} Jun 04 10:32:42 hrw: gcc-4.1.1 built with gcc-cross-4.1.1 here on x86 Jun 04 10:33:11 hrw: I have not tried it on my tosa yet though Jun 04 10:33:32 Packaged contents of postgresql into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/openzaurus/deploy/ipk/postgresql_8.1.4-r0_armv5te.ipk Jun 04 10:33:48 ~lart postgresql for trying to run generated binaries Jun 04 10:33:49 * ibot takes a rusty axe and swings it violently, taking postgresql's head off for trying to run generated binaries Jun 04 10:33:50 cyrilRomain: thx Jun 04 10:37:44 <_bambam> hmm, so probably best'llbe jus to build in 32bit-userland Jun 04 10:39:37 _bambam: thats too often is no option Jun 04 10:40:17 <_bambam> but it's worth a try, cause every gcc i tried broke on amd64 Jun 04 10:40:29 linux32? Jun 04 10:42:03 hoen, hrw, yesterday I build 4.1.1 both initial-cross and cross for arm Jun 04 10:42:04 <_bambam> yes Jun 04 10:42:11 s/hoen/koen/ Jun 04 10:42:41 had to apply a hack for ld for big endian Jun 04 10:42:52 didn't get to making a proper patch Jun 04 10:43:17 managed to compile and run a hello world program, also managed to build the kernel, but didn't try it Jun 04 10:44:11 first try glibc, 2.4 provides configure problems, so as as starter I'm now recompiling glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6 Jun 04 10:44:18 eFfeM: cross and initial-cross are ok. I have problems with 'gcc' for arm Jun 04 10:45:04 hrw, haven't tried that one, will try later (it is now humming on glibc, first grab some food Jun 04 10:59:44 03noodles 07org.oe.dev * r9dff94c5... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: Add latest version (1.1.12) Jun 04 10:59:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdf77d30f... 10/packages/postgresql/postgresql_8.1.4.bb: postgresql: add 8.1.4, with a slight hack to make packaging work Jun 04 11:00:31 hrw: you bought an amd64? Jun 04 11:01:20 XorA|gone: no cash for it Jun 04 11:01:26 XorA|gone: I got access to amd64 Jun 04 11:02:35 hrw: I see neither of the problems you do using FC4 or gentoo or deban, I suspect the setup on that machine is b0rked Jun 04 11:03:49 bugger I need monotone 0.25 for amd64 Jun 04 11:05:00 XorA|gone: on ewi (x86 debian) I cannot build gcc 3.4.4 for arm. on dev. (amd64 gentoo) I cannot build gcc 3.4.4/4.0.2 Jun 04 11:07:05 hrw: wierd, as I can build gcc on x86 debian and on pretty much any amd64 distro Jun 04 11:08:10 sorry, I need to go buy food, back later Jun 04 11:09:00 cu Jun 04 11:18:37 hrw: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=67a98f498e25daeb44476a66b885f8baf59e93cb would be nice for .oz354x Jun 04 11:19:21 what use it? Jun 04 11:19:38 most voip apps Jun 04 11:19:50 ok Jun 04 11:19:58 building Jun 04 11:20:39 woglinde: how much costs new cheap laptop in .de? Jun 04 11:21:04 I didn't enable the arm[4,5] asm features, but it's easy to do it yourself Jun 04 11:22:07 whats up with the OE wiki page.? It is down, is there a new web web site? Jun 04 11:23:45 NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: Jun 04 11:23:45 NOTE: /home/hrw/devel/build/0420-354x/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/speex/speex_config_types.h Jun 04 11:23:48 hm.. Jun 04 11:24:33 hrw which type of? Jun 04 11:24:44 hrw harddisk broken after 6 month? Jun 04 11:25:19 woglinde: Ania wants to buy a laptop - it has to work and be cheap (but new) Jun 04 11:25:31 goxboxlive: www.openembedded.org has always worked Jun 04 11:25:57 hrw complicated theme Jun 04 11:26:34 woglinde: I suppose. but I'm also lame when it comes to laptops Jun 04 11:26:52 hrw hm best think how much it should be Jun 04 11:26:57 koen: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted Jun 04 11:27:00 in the first Jun 04 11:27:00 koen: I'm trying to fix speex build Jun 04 11:27:07 than we could lokk what fits Jun 04 11:27:11 NOTE: package speex-1.1.12-r0.1: task do_build: completed Jun 04 11:27:22 goxboxlive: I repeat: www.openembedded.org has always worked Jun 04 11:27:39 koen: parallel make OFF, some perl magic OFF, some perl magic changed Jun 04 11:28:15 koen: http://www.openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted = 404 Jun 04 11:29:10 hrw: read the 404 page Jun 04 11:29:14 koen: I know Jun 04 11:29:39 I can't help it that people are too stupid to read Jun 04 11:30:00 koen: echo "RewriteRule ^cgi-bin/moin.cgi/(.*)$ /wiki/$1">>.htaccess ? Jun 04 11:30:13 hrw: doesn't work Jun 04 11:30:25 that clashes with another rewrite rule Jun 04 11:30:31 ;( Jun 04 11:30:33 (as I said before) Jun 04 11:30:46 fixes welcome Jun 04 11:31:16 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r5d86b4a8... 10/packages/readline/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add readline Jun 04 11:31:18 mickeyl will be collection ssh keys soon Jun 04 11:31:20 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r3b0e4108... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: Jun 04 11:31:20 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: minor improvements: Jun 04 11:31:20 * use PR as well Jun 04 11:31:20 * prefix packages with 'staging-' to avoid confusion with regular packages Jun 04 11:31:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r67a98f49... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex 1.1.12: enable fixed point from ARM Jun 04 11:32:09 koen: i see your point. Jun 04 11:35:29 hey zecke Jun 04 11:35:42 ho Jun 04 11:38:57 hi zecke Jun 04 11:39:18 woglinde: I suspect upto 600EUR Jun 04 11:40:03 woglinde: I hope the n770 is not looking like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/43911671@N00/108651788 Jun 04 11:40:53 zecke mom let me see how it looks now Jun 04 11:42:37 RP: do you know of any good option to debug lock ups? Jun 04 11:43:23 anyone here can do popups with dhtml? Jun 04 11:43:35 or look into code that works on mozilla but not khtml/safari? Jun 04 11:43:51 zecke: what's the best way to use bbnote from a shell task? Jun 04 11:44:04 oenote? Jun 04 11:44:13 oenote "foo" ? Jun 04 11:44:19 yes Jun 04 11:44:28 zecke: http://www.volkswagen.pl/js/popup.js works everywhere Jun 04 11:45:05 license? Jun 04 11:45:33 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r1cbd0fbd... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: use package for do_stage if present Jun 04 11:46:06 koen: I fear oenote will print into the log and not on the console Jun 04 11:46:29 zecke: that's why I asked Jun 04 11:46:40 zecke: basically this code degrades to "window.open()"... Jun 04 11:47:15 hrw: ah well, the tinderbox uses javascript for showing a popup when someone hits the 'L' Jun 04 11:47:39 hrw: on camino/mozilla it shows a popup, on khtml/safari it is not doing that and opens the side directly... Jun 04 11:48:08 popups are bad thing anyway Jun 04 11:48:36 hrw: where would you put 'Add Note' 'Show Log' then? Jun 04 11:50:11 zecke: note probably could be done with div and some JS (ajax) but showlog as target='_blank' Jun 04 11:50:22 koen: I granulated speex Jun 04 11:50:28 hrw: cool Jun 04 11:51:30 koen: will push into oz354x - check them Jun 04 11:51:46 recipe differ from .dev one Jun 04 11:53:09 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc622ea50... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: added 1.1.12 Jun 04 11:53:16 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rb624975d... 10/packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb: speex: split binaries to separate package Jun 04 11:55:45 btw, we have http://monotone.openembedded.org now as a shortcut to viewmtn Jun 04 11:56:09 nice Jun 04 11:56:31 when monotone server on this address? Jun 04 11:56:44 3 days ago? Jun 04 11:56:46 hrw: once, I post the monotone migration plan :} Jun 04 11:57:47 koen: did you know 'defaults' Jun 04 11:58:05 zecke: --set-defaults ? Jun 04 11:58:11 defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1 Jun 04 11:58:29 ah, cool Jun 04 11:58:34 didn't know about that Jun 04 12:01:32 wow Jun 04 12:01:39 event.preventBubble is not defined... Jun 04 12:03:05 zecke: Depends on the kind of lockup ;- Jun 04 12:03:08 ;-) Jun 04 12:03:13 RP: kernel lock ups Jun 04 12:03:21 RP: Linux kernel to be accurate Jun 04 12:03:39 zecke: There is the softlockup detector but that will depend if your irq handlers are dead or not Jun 04 12:04:16 so like I said, it depends on the kind of lockup (soft or hard) Jun 04 12:04:18 RP: I suspect it is a lockup with swap vs. network stack Jun 04 12:04:47 right, try enabling the softlockup detector Jun 04 12:05:04 If it detects the kernel in the same place in the code, it will generate a backtrace Jun 04 12:05:36 hrw: there is an amule package in the bugtracker (which is down atm), no idea if it works Jun 04 12:06:50 ok Jun 04 12:14:10 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r23408240... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: more generic Jun 04 12:23:49 cya later Jun 04 12:40:34 RP: looks like there is a method to force driver even when pcmciautils are used Jun 04 12:51:13 re koen Jun 04 12:53:17 koen: how goes your SoC? Jun 04 12:53:44 slow Jun 04 12:54:05 ~lart glibc for broken do_stage Jun 04 12:54:06 * ibot executes killall -KILL glibc for broken do_stage Jun 04 12:55:22 but builds are a lot faster now :) Jun 04 12:56:15 toolchain packaged does not need to be rebuilt etc? Jun 04 12:56:43 only do_stage packages Jun 04 12:57:22 if do_stage find a matching package it will use that and skip the original do_stage Jun 04 12:57:37 aha Jun 04 12:58:06 fun Jun 04 12:58:12 http://3voor12.vpro.nl/3voor12/live/player_video.jsp?programs=11998947&lstreams=12001246 Jun 04 12:58:13 so currently speex will build itself but use package for do_stage()? Jun 04 13:02:17 hrw: yes Jun 04 13:02:31 hrw: so people will need to bump PR to affect staging Jun 04 13:02:37 (or remove the package) Jun 04 13:05:06 ok Jun 04 13:10:26 hi Rene Jun 04 13:10:44 afternoon Jun 04 13:10:48 hey Marcin Jun 04 13:11:19 someone here use 'native' machine? Jun 04 13:11:27 hi renoo Jun 04 13:11:28 in a MACHINE='native' meaning Jun 04 13:11:35 hey woglinde Jun 04 13:12:40 anyone happen to know whether .dev is expect to build working openslug images? or do I need a special branch for that? Jun 04 13:24:11 reenoo: It is supposed to work. The NSLU people use it directly Jun 04 13:24:49 hrw: I thought there was a way to control pcmcia's bindings... Jun 04 13:25:17 RP: modalias thing works Jun 04 13:25:37 RP: still both drivers are loaded but only proper one is used Jun 04 13:26:30 I need to find some time to work on the kernel as CF card handling looks totally broken in recent kernels :-( Jun 04 13:26:53 in which way 'broken'? Jun 04 13:27:09 hrw: You can't eject CF cards Jun 04 13:27:35 well, you can but it doesn't work and you'll have to reboot to regain use of the PCMCIA slot Jun 04 13:28:00 RP: hmm. odd. the build succeeds but the slug just hangs (no serial port yet...) Jun 04 13:28:22 RP: ah that.. yes.. 'cardctl eject' works ok. getting it manually sort of work only Jun 04 13:28:22 reenoo: My images do that as well. I need to build a serial lead and see what's wrong Jun 04 13:28:37 ~lart debootstrap Jun 04 13:28:37 * ibot gives debootstrap a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" Jun 04 13:28:44 hrw: By recent kernels I mean the git ones Jun 04 13:28:50 RP: ah. Jun 04 13:28:53 hrw: 2.6.16 is ok Jun 04 13:29:14 2.6.17 will be broken Jun 04 13:30:33 RP: ah, interesting. fwiw, images built from the 2.7-beta snapshot don't seem to boot at all here (LED stays red) Jun 04 13:31:14 reenoo: I got an image from rwhitby which worked fine but mine built at the same time doesn't work. I've not had a chance to debug it Jun 04 13:31:33 Hopefully if I can get something else I've been working on out the way, I might find some time to debug these things :) Jun 04 13:33:06 yah, I'd solder on a max232, but the slug isn't quite ours yet Jun 04 13:33:23 reenoo: Its also 3.3V ;-) Jun 04 13:41:03 cu Jun 04 13:41:52 RP: well, at least I'd need to solder on some wires. Jun 04 13:41:59 later hrw|afk Jun 04 13:45:36 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rbc9960fe... 10/packages/libogg/ (libogg/m4.patch libogg_1.1.bb): Add libogg Jun 04 13:45:43 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r43c781ec... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: delete package in do_clean Jun 04 13:47:10 later all Jun 04 14:35:43 Does anyone know how I turn off or select a different config for the kernel. When I build it pulls in the abi-kernel. I was told that won't work with familiar(but it is the one pulling it in) Jun 04 14:40:13 * chouimat is back. Jun 04 14:43:24 hi Jun 04 14:43:37 gpe gaim this time Jun 04 14:44:07 :) Jun 04 15:06:31 re Jun 04 15:09:27 hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/native/tmp/TEST$ ./usr/bin/vim --version Jun 04 15:09:27 VIM - Vi IMproved 6.4 (2005 Oct 15, compiled Jun 4 2006 17:23:06) Jun 04 15:09:27 Compiled by hrw@bitbake Jun 04 15:09:41 build with MACHINE='native' works again Jun 04 15:09:59 re koen Jun 04 15:10:11 hey hrw Jun 04 15:14:25 hi drw Jun 04 15:14:36 hi hrw Jun 04 15:16:14 MACHINE="native" works again. Marcos will be able to develop OPIE/GPE on desktop. Jun 04 15:16:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r21979c8b... 10/packages/mc/mc_4.6.0.bb: mc: we use ncurses - so let it be set (to not fetch slang) Jun 04 15:16:45 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5920e2fd... 10/conf/machine/native.conf: machine/native.conf: added 'virtual/libiconv virtual/libintl virtual/libc' to ASSUME_PROVIDED so we do not get our libc built Jun 04 16:10:06 cu Jun 04 17:04:09 re Jun 04 17:09:30 'http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/02/legendary-computer-scientist-alan-kotok-has-died/' Jun 04 17:11:25 hi koen Jun 04 17:11:32 hey woglinde Jun 04 17:11:58 koen why arent you at pink pop? Jun 04 17:12:01 *g* Jun 04 17:12:20 pinkpop is too *cough* commercial *cough* Jun 04 17:12:36 and I didn't have time to work there Jun 04 17:13:19 koen *g* Jun 04 17:14:21 koen: you could have taken your laptop there and they undoubtly will have gprs ... Jun 04 17:14:40 yes and watsching the livestream Jun 04 17:14:41 lol Jun 04 17:14:42 eFfeM: maybe all those mountains would block the signal ;) Jun 04 17:14:53 lol, mountains Jun 04 17:15:12 anyone an idea why I get this: Jun 04 17:15:13 ../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c: In function 'raise': Jun 04 17:15:13 ../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/raise.c:32: error: '__pthread_raise' undeclared (first use in this function) Jun 04 17:15:33 trying to compile glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r6 with gcc 4.1.1 Jun 04 17:16:31 maybe a --without-__thread? Jun 04 17:16:45 I never tried to compile glibc 2.3.x with 4.1.1 Jun 04 17:17:44 should I go for 2.4 ? Jun 04 17:17:51 the gcc bb has --disable-threads Jun 04 17:21:11 eFfeM: glibc 2.4 req kernel 2.6 (but you probably has it) Jun 04 17:21:27 hrw, tnx, yes I am at 2.6.16 Jun 04 17:21:41 * hrw started x86 build Jun 04 17:22:21 by the way, why is bitbake nowadays parsing all bb files and not only the ones in my .conf file ? Jun 04 17:25:32 lost with glibc 2.4, if I set PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.4" in my conf file and do a bb glibc, I get: "NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available" although there is a glibc_24.bb... Jun 04 17:26:07 do I need to edit/add something somewere else ???? Jun 04 17:26:42 or is this in glibc_2.4.bb the bad guy: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Jun 04 17:29:19 _bambam: is that the_grinder bam? Jun 04 17:33:46 afk Jun 04 17:34:13 that means nope? Jun 04 18:06:12 <_stalker_> hi all Jun 04 18:06:20 <_stalker_> can anyone help with oe? Jun 04 18:06:35 <_stalker_> I managed to compile an entire Opie image Jun 04 18:06:45 <_stalker_> but the root-fs populating step went wrong Jun 04 18:07:04 <_stalker_> it seems ipkg got a segfault (?!) Jun 04 18:07:52 <_stalker_> any advice? Jun 04 18:27:09 eFfeM, DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" means the meta file is broken and bad things will happen if you use it including leaving the bitbake buildsystem and mangling host system files Jun 04 18:27:47 which in the case of glibc is extreamly bad Jun 04 18:30:15 emte: no Jun 04 18:30:22 it does not mean it is broken Jun 04 18:30:46 just not considered stable enough, even if it has the higher version Jun 04 18:32:19 hmm, it has always been my impression that it ment they were broken Jun 04 18:32:40 <_stalker_> can anyone help me with this: Jun 04 18:32:41 <_stalker_> NOTE: package opie-image-1.0-r21: task do_rootfs: started Jun 04 18:32:42 <_stalker_> ERROR: function do_rootfs failed Jun 04 18:32:48 hi all Jun 04 18:33:25 but i'll keep it in mind now Jun 04 18:34:08 <_bambam> _stalker_: isn't there a log ouput, where the failure is described? Jun 04 18:35:05 hi florian Jun 04 18:35:15 hi zecke Jun 04 18:35:46 <_stalker_> _bambam: o'course Jun 04 18:35:56 <_stalker_> home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/work/ipaq-pxa270-linux-gnueabi/opie-image-1.0-r21/temp/run.do_rootfs.5021: line 457: 23204 Erreur de segmentation ipkg-cl -f /home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/work/ipaq-pxa270-linux-gnueabi/opie-image-1.0-r21/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/julien/Dev/openembedded/build/tmp/rootfs install task-bootstrap task-opie-base task-opie-base-applets task-opie-base-inputmethods task-opie-base-apps task-opie-b Jun 04 18:36:03 <_stalker_> sorry for the trace Jun 04 18:36:08 <_stalker_> Erreur de Jun 04 18:36:09 <_stalker_> segmentation Jun 04 18:36:22 <_stalker_> seems ipkg segfaults, doesn't it? Jun 04 18:36:27 * emte wonders when bitbae switched languages Jun 04 18:36:31 bitbake* Jun 04 18:36:39 <_bambam> _stalker_: seems like Jun 04 18:36:52 <_stalker_> should I compile another version of it? Jun 04 18:36:57 <_bambam> _stalker_: for postin jus use pastebin in future ;) Jun 04 18:36:59 <_stalker_> is it worthy? Jun 04 18:37:06 <_stalker_> allright,sorry Jun 04 18:37:41 <_bambam> _stalker_: might be a solution Jun 04 18:37:57 <_bambam> _stalker_: or if it's not workin at all, try it with dpkg Jun 04 18:38:16 _stalker_: ipkg doesn't like '-' in the path name Jun 04 18:39:35 <_stalker_> and how could I switch from ipkg to dpkg? Jun 04 18:39:56 _stalker_: writing a package_deb.bblcass Jun 04 18:39:58 <_bambam> zecke: didn't had any problems related path names here Jun 04 18:40:18 _stalker_: and a rootfs_deb.bbclass Jun 04 18:40:24 _bambam: believe me, or don't do it Jun 04 18:40:50 <_bambam> _stalker_: for i in $(ls tmp/deploy/ipk/*.ipk); do dpkg --extract $i ; done Jun 04 18:41:11 <_stalker_> allright Jun 04 18:41:28 zap and ignore_list++ Jun 04 18:43:00 <_bambam> zecke: jus yesterday e-image-core build fine on "open-ezx" ;) Jun 04 18:43:21 _bambam: well, I have seen 4 crashes from four different people... Jun 04 18:43:49 _bambam: not each memory violation leads to a segfault Jun 04 18:43:59 <_bambam> zecke: k Jun 04 18:44:12 _bambam: and I'm pretty sure _stalker doesn't wan't each and every glibc locale package in his rootfs... Jun 04 18:44:54 <_bambam> zecke: it was jus an solution if anyting else won't work Jun 04 18:45:04 <_stalker_> zecke: yep :) Jun 04 18:48:26 _stalker_: we would be interested in proper dpkg and deb support Jun 04 18:48:50 _stalker_: http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1666 Jun 04 18:48:54 I think was the crash Jun 04 18:49:48 _stalker_: we need to wait for the release of this ipkg release Jun 04 18:51:21 <_stalker_> thx for the url Jun 04 18:51:23 <_stalker_> i give a look Jun 04 18:55:46 <_stalker_> zecke: actual version of ipkg in oe is 0.99.154, isn't it? Jun 04 18:56:01 <_stalker_> it seems I'll have to wait for a while... Jun 04 19:03:18 hi all Jun 04 19:08:47 mr_nice: could you update opensimpad.org to point to www.openembedded.org instead of the now defunct oe.hh.org? Jun 04 19:10:31 koen: no problem - mom Jun 04 19:11:00 emte: zecke, thanks for the info (was suddenly called away, now reading the backlog) Jun 04 19:17:37 koen: ok it is done Jun 04 19:17:45 mr_nice: thanks Jun 04 19:17:52 koen: no problem Jun 04 19:18:32 koen: if you have any suggestions just told me about them. there is also a test page now test.opensimpad.org Jun 04 19:20:51 hi mr_nice Jun 04 19:21:08 florion:hi Jun 04 19:26:37 <_bambam> what i really miss in oe is option --fetchonly Jun 04 19:27:15 _bambam: btbake -c fetch Jun 04 19:27:22 bitbake -c fetch Jun 04 19:27:36 hi Jun 04 19:28:13 <_bambam> XorA|gone: oh, thanks, i must have missed this Jun 04 19:30:33 hey Skyhusker Jun 04 19:30:39 hey koen Jun 04 19:32:02 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rfc6d9e15... 10/packages/gcc/ (gcc-4.1.1/armeb-fix.patch gcc-cross_4.1.1.bb gcc_4.1.1.bb): gcc 4.1.1: added patch for big endian Jun 04 19:32:24 re Jun 04 19:32:35 hrw: wb Jun 04 19:35:52 hey hrw Jun 04 19:36:25 building kopete 0.12 is... Jun 04 19:36:25 * koen converts some more wiki pages Jun 04 19:40:59 in what package of ppp-* is `pppstats`? Jun 04 19:41:13 ppp-tools? Jun 04 19:41:18 univac: check the .bb Jun 04 19:41:21 ~lart kopete jingle support Jun 04 19:41:22 * ibot smacks kopete jingle support up side the head with a clue-by-4 Jun 04 19:41:45 i have't oe tree ;[ Jun 04 19:42:12 univac: then check feed/base/Packages.filelist of your OZ distro Jun 04 19:42:17 univac: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ppp/ppp_2.4.3.bb Jun 04 19:42:27 thx. Jun 04 19:44:53 * hrw want h2200 or other linuxpda of that size Jun 04 19:45:06 FILES_ppp-tools = "/usr/sbin/pppstats /usr/sbin/pppdump" Jun 04 19:45:07 :) Jun 04 19:45:37 * univac want's c-1000 Jun 04 19:45:44 wants* Jun 04 19:45:46 w00t Jun 04 19:48:07 hrw: one like this: http://cgi.ebay.nl/HP-iPAQ-h2210-Pocket-PC_W0QQitemZ9732420939QQcategoryZ8131QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ? Jun 04 19:48:30 yep Jun 04 19:48:46 pda which IS pda Jun 04 19:49:01 a hx2750 would be nice Jun 04 19:49:04 128mb ram :) Jun 04 19:49:17 not clamshell which need to be opened before use, which need several seconds to be reacting... etc Jun 04 19:49:20 mhm Jun 04 19:49:23 320x240 Jun 04 19:49:43 koen: someone from TX, usa want to exchange hx2755 to clamshell Jun 04 19:50:17 univac: also bt/wifi/pxa27x 624MHz Jun 04 19:50:48 nice, but to small Jun 04 19:50:57 i want clamshell :) Jun 04 19:50:59 hp stopped making the 2750 models Jun 04 19:51:08 they only have 64mb ram models now Jun 04 19:51:44 univac: you have crap^Wcollie now? Jun 04 19:51:56 no, h3870 Jun 04 19:52:01 koen: does the integrated wireless chipset in the hx4700 support monitor mode? Jun 04 19:52:16 Skyhusker: probably not Jun 04 19:52:24 Skyhusker: they just got it working :) Jun 04 19:52:45 koen: i meant if you know is the hardware is capable ;) Jun 04 19:52:49 ouch Jun 04 19:52:53 s/is/if/ Jun 04 19:53:11 the atmel in the h5550 can't work in monitor mode Jun 04 19:53:14 Skyhusker: check acx100 chipset status? Jun 04 19:54:45 * zecke starts to like XCode Jun 04 19:55:23 hrw: checking acx100.sf.net now :) Jun 04 19:55:27 emacs! Jun 04 19:55:46 zecke: are you working on something for Mac OS? Jun 04 19:56:23 univac: GVim! Jun 04 19:56:30 too Jun 04 19:56:43 starting to use a real IDE Jun 04 19:56:49 ... Jun 04 19:56:58 zecke: Western Digital Raptor? Jun 04 19:57:06 after 5,6,7,10,15... seconds I was about to go back to gvim Jun 04 19:57:17 zecke: the user manual is the second most visited page on the OE site Jun 04 19:59:00 :} Jun 04 19:59:12 I will be really, really busy the next two weeks Jun 04 19:59:20 first exam... Jun 04 20:00:26 good luck Jun 04 20:00:41 I'm missing my exams due to the holiday Jun 04 20:00:44 zecke: we will check to not keep you here Jun 04 20:00:51 so I have to do 7 exams in august Jun 04 20:01:01 * hrw has to finish run own business in next weeks Jun 04 20:01:42 koen: oh well... I have still many exams left Jun 04 20:01:47 ~lart disabled people... Jun 04 20:01:48 * ibot nukes disabled people... with a single large nuke Jun 04 20:02:07 zecke: WAI 508? Jun 04 20:02:19 WAI? Jun 04 20:02:25 hrw: so you are going to try beating zecke and me with getting filthy rich? Jun 04 20:02:42 Web Accessibility Interface (disabled people) Jun 04 20:02:58 koen: try? Jun 04 20:03:06 hrw: no, just me... I take these classes and at the end of the term I'm too exhausted to get the exam Jun 04 20:03:21 and enqueue them... just dequeue takes so freaking long :} Jun 04 20:03:23 koen: time to get cash for amd64 switch etc.. Jun 04 20:03:39 hrw: I have read a blog about NForce4/5 and AM2 Jun 04 20:04:05 zecke: mine or other? Jun 04 20:04:11 hrw: no Jun 04 20:04:27 03mreimer 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r49179f7a... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): handhelds-pxa-2.6_2.6.15-hh1: add a patch to fix resume on h2200. Jun 04 20:04:28 hrw: http://fflewddur.livejournal.com/285149.html Jun 04 20:04:40 thx Jun 04 20:05:29 zecke: p.g.o? Jun 04 20:06:28 yepp Jun 04 20:07:08 the binary sort bug was nice Jun 04 20:07:26 koen: yes Jun 04 20:07:35 koen: I hope to pass my exam bringing this information Jun 04 20:07:40 "Algorithms and Programming" Jun 04 20:07:43 :) Jun 04 20:07:55 "Show me a binary search in haskell and java" Jun 04 20:08:05 "The broken one from your lecturer, or one that works?" Jun 04 20:08:11 haskell is nice :) Jun 04 20:08:32 univac: functional programming itself is nice Jun 04 20:09:02 ep Jun 04 20:09:04 y Jun 04 20:09:24 zecke: I think that when I will finally afford amd64 such problems will get resolved (or VIA release am2 chipsets) Jun 04 20:09:36 VIA? Jun 04 20:09:50 I like via chipsets Jun 04 20:10:14 all my PCs were VIA based Jun 04 20:10:30 1st: VIA KT133 + Duron 600 Jun 04 20:10:41 <- nforce Jun 04 20:10:43 2nd: VIA KT600 + AthlonXP 2200+ (1.8GHz) Jun 04 20:10:50 3rd: who knows.. Jun 04 20:10:51 I hate nvidia Jun 04 20:11:06 why? Jun 04 20:11:12 I hate nvidia for buying mediaq and taking the docs offilne Jun 04 20:11:13 they killed vodoo Jun 04 20:11:19 and mediaq Jun 04 20:11:22 bettter than ati :) Jun 04 20:11:46 I do not hate them - hate is opposite to love. I prefer to ignore them (but I use mx440 agp here) Jun 04 20:12:10 and I dislike nvidia for thei crappy filters Jun 04 20:12:18 * koen <- ex matrox user Jun 04 20:12:32 i have some old matrox cards :) Jun 04 20:12:35 zecke: for me VIA chipsets are best supported now Jun 04 20:12:40 g200, g400 .. Jun 04 20:12:49 I use matrox g450 at work, used g400 at home Jun 04 20:13:04 too bad my powerbook has this crappy nvidia chip... Jun 04 20:13:21 koen: kip it off and use usb gfx card Jun 04 20:13:35 :) Jun 04 20:13:36 koen: of pcmcia -> cf and cf-xga superhiper card Jun 04 20:13:48 pcmcia? Jun 04 20:14:01 it sucks ;p Jun 04 20:14:02 koen: usb -> pcmcia -> cf then Jun 04 20:14:19 :) Jun 04 20:14:42 I was 'debugging' my app for cfxga card but never ever seen that card or output from it Jun 04 20:14:58 /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload ./historyviewer.ui | /usr/bin/perl -pi -e "s,public QWizard,public KWizard,g; s,#include ,#include ,g" >> historyviewer.h ; Jun 04 20:15:05 /usr/share/qt3/bin/uic -L /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer -nounload ./historyviewer.ui | /usr/bin/perl -pi -e "s,public QWizard,public KWizard,g; s,#include ,#include ,g" >> historyviewer.h ; Jun 04 20:15:09 so called 'KDE love' Jun 04 20:15:33 kde > gnome Jun 04 20:15:34 :) Jun 04 20:16:31 univac: I want desktop which does not need 'registry editor' to be properly configured Jun 04 20:16:41 * koen likes http://ajaxxx.livejournal.com/50471.html Jun 04 20:16:54 FVWM! Jun 04 20:17:59 zecke: if you have some time - could you please give me a short overview about the SIMpad Kernel 2.6 so I can upload it to opensimpad.org? Did Guylhem succeded in contacting you? Jun 04 20:18:08 no Jun 04 20:18:32 mr_nice: pretty much unchanged, for some weeks Jun 04 20:18:36 univac: wmaker + hacked rox-filer Jun 04 20:18:40 mr_nice: mcp/ucb works thanks to pavel Jun 04 20:18:52 mr_nice: mq200 works on the mediaq I have Jun 04 20:20:14 zecke: what are the parts which are not working. how willing people could contact you to help. Jun 04 20:21:10 zecke:who else is working on 2.6 series? Jun 04 20:22:09 cu Jun 04 20:24:22 mr_nice: SA11x0 USB client, mq200 only works for me, I have not tested sound at all Jun 04 20:24:50 mr_nice: next two weeks, I will have no spare time at all Jun 04 20:26:30 zecke:don't missunderstand me I only wanted to know about the things and report on opensimpad.org I don't want to push you Jun 04 20:28:02 mr_nice: oh, I did not understand it this way Jun 04 20:28:26 mr_nice: I have a semi public git tree for the SIMpad, it just takes a couple of 'days' finding time to work on it Jun 04 20:29:42 zecke: can I write on the page that if someone is intrested in SIMpad kernel hackin he could contact you over this irc channel? Jun 04 20:29:57 mr_nice: sure Jun 04 20:30:53 cya later guys Jun 04 20:30:56 zecke: thx Jun 04 21:10:44 * Philippe is back (gone 76:39:57) Jun 04 21:44:05 good night cya Jun 04 22:02:27 eek, my borzoi isn't doing the D+B thing :( Jun 04 22:15:53 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams Jun 04 22:26:22 found out why. jogwheel stuck in Jun 04 22:26:35 popped it out, now service linux boot is working Jun 04 22:49:52 CoreDump|home: ping Jun 04 22:55:12 pb__: did you ever play with 'vm_swappiness'. Does it change the performance of GPE/X11 on devices with 'little' RAM? Jun 04 23:12:32 wpa_supplicant is useless as included with OZ 3.5.4.1-test/rc4, why even bother including it? Jun 04 23:13:56 also hh.org bugzilla should upgrade to at least version 2.22 Jun 04 23:14:04 searching for bugs is broken before 2.22 Jun 04 23:17:46 does anybody know whilst trying to do a build it looks for /home/repvik ..? Jun 04 23:18:16 jnc, conciddering recent developments you shouldpost that in the familiar channel or atleast hhkernel Jun 04 23:18:22 concidering* Jun 04 23:18:34 altho france might read it in here as well Jun 04 23:18:52 Harvy, it looks for whatever you set it to Jun 04 23:22:16 but I do not have a /home it is mounted elsewhere Jun 04 23:22:26 the error is Jun 04 23:23:46 the path does not exist Jun 04 23:28:51 nite guys Jun 04 23:30:08 i will will try again in a few days when i get my new slug Jun 04 23:31:17 i have been told that bitbake doesnt work on amd64 so guess ill have to wate Jun 04 23:33:34 Harvy: huh? bitbake works here on amd64. Jun 04 23:34:23 Harvy: but AMD64 in general tends to have a few uncovered bugs everywhere. I could succesfully build two distro's with it. Jun 04 23:36:15 likewise: I am trying to build for a ipaq 2110 and was told that it wouldnt work Jun 04 23:36:34 so I got a couple of slugs Jun 04 23:36:51 Harvy: A slug as the build machine? Jun 04 23:37:03 Harvy: or as a target? Jun 04 23:38:00 as a build machine seems to work better than my laptop !! Jun 04 23:39:14 Harvy: ok, I am building OpenSlug (and similar IXP4xx targets) and Cirrus ARM9 targets fine from my AMD64 machine. Jun 04 23:39:34 HArvy: but maybe the ipaq 2110 distro hits on a specific bug. Jun 04 23:41:25 A slug as a build machine for another device? How masochistic :-) Jun 04 23:46:57 rwhitbey: works for me set it going before i go to bed and it is done by the time ii get back from work (most of the tme) Jun 04 23:47:52 likewise Jun 04 23:48:14 amd64 aspire 1520 Jun 04 23:48:36 kergoth: hi Jun 04 23:50:17 rwhitbey: must get round to overcloking it sometime tho Jun 04 23:50:45 ttfn set a build going and going to bed Jun 05 01:03:48 is there an oesf mod here? Jun 05 01:17:39 oesf mod? Jun 05 01:32:11 nm - emailed them, thanks Jun 05 01:39:29 jnc: fixing.... Jun 05 02:20:17 Haven't touched OE in about a year... So it's time to see how easy it's going to be to install it Jun 05 02:20:34 blah! The damn how to used gnome... Jun 05 02:20:41 Guess I wont be able to try it out =\ Jun 05 02:20:52 har har har - that's my developers joke! I've got lots of them Jun 05 02:24:18 You know a back button would be nice =\ Jun 05 02:28:34 OE.db.bz2 doesn't exist =\ Jun 05 02:28:40 in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ Jun 05 02:31:24 I'll take a wild shot and get OE-26.db Jun 05 02:32:03 Servo888: just skip that part, it is a shortcut anyway Jun 05 02:33:54 also what's "oz354x"? Jun 05 02:34:20 Servo888: the branch that current openzaurus distributions are made from Jun 05 02:34:24 oz implies open zaurus I would assume. Jun 05 02:34:32 Ah what if I want gpe / ipaq branch? Jun 05 02:35:12 OE forks are distro oriented not application Jun 05 02:35:13 Servo888: gpe is also for oz now, and familiar is being built from oz354fam083 Jun 05 02:35:54 Hmm so for the step: monotone --db OE-26.db co --branch=org.openembedded.oz354x | what should I use? Jun 05 02:36:42 whatever you intailezed you db to Jun 05 02:36:47 Servo888: there should be directions on the wiki for making a db, if not, man monotone Jun 05 02:37:12 26 refers to the monotone 26 testing repo Jun 05 02:37:21 if you dont have monotone 26 dont use it! Jun 05 02:37:34 ah ok I wont Jun 05 02:38:33 Yah the wiki seems straight forward - I'll use it instead Jun 05 02:47:19 france: thanks Jun 05 02:47:41 emte: i attempted to fix this issue a while ago, linking wpa_supplicant against gnutls **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 05 02:59:57 2006