**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 10 02:59:56 2006 Jun 10 04:39:57 will bitbake run on a macbook ? Jun 10 06:10:19 hi, is there a place to backread #oe ? Jun 10 06:33:07 !logs Jun 10 06:33:07 JustinP: I have no frelling idea! Jun 10 06:33:11 ack Jun 10 06:33:14 ~logs Jun 10 06:33:20 apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz, or updated "nightly" Jun 10 06:33:29 eFfeM: there you go Jun 10 06:34:00 JustinP: tnx Jun 10 06:35:17 i had the idea that somewhere there was also a searchable archive (but anyway I think I have the info i need) Jun 10 07:35:11 kergoth: are you there Jun 10 07:36:44 ~seen kergoth Jun 10 07:36:57 kergoth is currently on #oe #wowace #elinux. Has said a total of 424 messages. Is idling for 11m 58s, last said: 'hate being a lowbie with no cash'. Jun 10 07:40:49 hi phil Jun 10 07:41:59 hi eFfeM Jun 10 08:29:24 greetings ! Jun 10 08:56:19 hi, has anyone a solution for "does not support interworking" error messages ? these break the zlib build with gcc 4.1.1 Jun 10 08:58:35 apparently not all files are compiled with -mthumb-interwork Jun 10 09:08:50 hi zecke Jun 10 09:08:57 RP: hey Jun 10 09:09:07 zecke: Those pastebin urls you posted yesterday don't work (pastebin is broken) Jun 10 09:09:26 RP: I do regular poky builds now, but this debian testing is broken :} Jun 10 09:09:51 debian testing? Jun 10 09:10:09 RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=59&logfile=20060610112403.log <- Jun 10 09:10:22 the machine I'm doing the builds on, is breaking the poky build Jun 10 09:10:43 RP: pokys' bitbake could deserve the latest patch from the BitBake trunk Jun 10 09:10:55 RP: this makes it print the 'Build Started' screen always Jun 10 09:11:29 zecke: This is from the stable bitbake branch? Jun 10 09:12:16 yes Jun 10 09:13:16 http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake?view=rev&rev=533 Jun 10 09:13:52 I remember reviewing the change :) Jun 10 09:14:53 okay I'm getting breakfast now, then cya later (tomorrow) Jun 10 09:17:31 zecke: I'm updating now :) Jun 10 09:17:49 hey RP Jun 10 09:17:56 hi mithro Jun 10 09:18:09 you wouldn't know how hard it is to update a module from 2.4's USB structure to 2.6? Jun 10 09:18:19 RP: you will break my autobuilder :} Jun 10 09:18:55 mithro: I once did that and I don't remember it being that bad. A lot has changed since then though... Jun 10 09:20:43 zecke: Committed :) Jun 10 09:22:31 reverted my local change Jun 10 09:22:37 zecke: That problem you're seeing could be the bug kergorth mentioned Jun 10 09:22:58 RP: woglinde said it is a debian regression Jun 10 09:23:08 oh well :) Jun 10 09:23:15 damn no time to look into it Jun 10 09:23:44 zecke: try running bitbake autoconf-native, then running a build Jun 10 09:25:24 okay it didn't build autoconf-native Jun 10 09:25:44 Perhaps it is a debian regression then :) Jun 10 09:25:51 RP: zecke, is the preferred compiler flag default for arm thumb-interwork or nothumb-interwork? Jun 10 09:27:31 eFfeM: hehe, I prefer nothumb-interwork because I own StrongARM systems Jun 10 09:27:43 but that is my preference Jun 10 09:28:10 eFfeM: I'd have thought nothumb-interwork Jun 10 09:28:16 well I am trying to get a gcc 4.1.1. buildable system and apparently gcc builds with nothumb but glibc builds with Jun 10 09:28:50 and also the std compiler flag seems to be with Jun 10 09:29:25 this causes gcc to emit a warning which causes that zlib does think shared libary is not supported Jun 10 09:29:40 (the test in zlib configure is not very good) Jun 10 09:29:57 RP: I wonder why the same oh-image once worked and once not Jun 10 09:30:18 zecke: good morning Jun 10 09:30:19 deciding what the best fix would be Jun 10 09:31:07 eFfeM: I guess you need to confirm what the thumb-interwork default is, then work out whether glibc or gcc is getting it wrong :) Jun 10 09:31:15 actually I wold expect this to be some default in conf Jun 10 09:31:27 zecke: Nothing much has changed in poky recently... Jun 10 09:31:43 RP it can be made to work both ways Jun 10 09:32:28 RP: so it worked because the installed auto* worked by coincidence Jun 10 09:32:35 RP: after my debian upgrade it... Jun 10 09:33:51 zecke: I've just set my autobuild scripts running so they'll feed tinderbox a bit :) Jun 10 09:34:10 so whats up people? Jun 10 09:35:54 Hmm. Someone's failing on qemu-native wanting SDL support :-/ Jun 10 09:49:22 RP: me? Jun 10 09:49:28 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra11a9b21... 10/packages/ (7 files in 4 dirs): lttng: Add lttng control and viewer, drop ltt. Jun 10 09:49:40 bmz = BMCO Forum zecke Jun 10 09:49:42 zecke: Could be Jun 10 09:52:56 BMCO? Jun 10 09:54:11 mithro: Broadcast Mobile Convergence Jun 10 09:54:45 mithro: http://www.bmco-forum.org/ <- this is where I'm doing some pseudo research for a student project Jun 10 09:54:46 the DVB-H stuff you where showing me? Jun 10 09:55:36 ahh okay Jun 10 09:56:08 mithro but yes it is all about DVB-H Jun 10 09:57:25 I just remember how low the quality of debian testing is :} Jun 10 09:57:35 remembered... Jun 10 10:03:41 okay going to study now Jun 10 10:10:56 ello folks Jun 10 10:18:28 hi ade|home Jun 10 10:25:00 wow its quiet in here for a saturday Jun 10 10:25:57 yes, first day since ages with hot weather in w eur Jun 10 10:26:02 ~weather eheh Jun 10 10:26:06 Eindhoven, Netherlands; (EHEH) 51-27N 005-25E 28M; last updated: 2006.06.10 1025 UTC; Dew Point: 50 F (10 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.18 in. Hg (1022 hPa); Relative Humidity: 36%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 78 F (26 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the ESE (110 degrees) at 8 MPH (7 KT) Jun 10 10:27:43 hmm wonder what the code is for cambridge uk Jun 10 10:28:04 ~weather Jun 10 10:31:31 ~weather egsc Jun 10 10:31:34 Cambridge, United Kingdom; (EGSC) 52-12N 000-11E; last updated: 2006.06.10 1020 UTC; Dew Point: 53 F (12 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.12 in. Hg (1020 hPa); Relative Humidity: 44%; Temperature: 77 F (25 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the SE (130 degrees) at 16 MPH (14 KT) (direction variable) Jun 10 10:32:01 ~weather ymml Jun 10 10:32:07 Melbourne Airport, Australia; (YMML) 37-40S 144-50E 141M; last updated: 2006.06.10 1000 UTC; Dew Point: 42 F (6 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.09 in. Hg (1019 hPa); Relative Humidity: 100%; Sky conditions: mostly cloudy; Temperature: 42 F (6 C); Visibility: 1 mile(s); Weather: Patches of fog; Wind: from the WSW (250 degrees) at 5 MPH (4 KT) Jun 10 10:52:29 How do I get the source tree pulled with monotone 0.26? Jun 10 10:52:38 I get "mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl, disconnecting" Jun 10 10:52:43 DataBeaver: Use 0.25.. Jun 10 10:54:04 Anyone happen to have debian package for 0.25 around? (Or installed, to be packed with dpkg-repack) Jun 10 10:54:37 DataBeaver: Yep Jun 10 10:54:43 i386? Jun 10 10:54:46 Yeah Jun 10 10:56:54 http://tucuxi.org/monotone_0.25-0.1_i386.deb Jun 10 10:57:26 Thanks Jun 10 10:57:32 np Jun 10 11:03:46 morning Jun 10 11:07:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3c51b3a5... 10/packages/orinoco/spectrum-fw.bb: spectrum-fw: fix broken fix. close #1075 Jun 10 11:16:31 anyone know why udev is creating dozens of tty[a-z][a-z] devices and how to stop it from doing that? Jun 10 11:20:37 mickeyl: because you have a lot pty's configurged? Jun 10 11:20:45 mickeyl: and udev has a rule for to create a tty? Jun 10 11:20:45 do i? Jun 10 11:20:47 where? Jun 10 11:21:08 kernel config, I think one has ~256 ptys by default Jun 10 11:21:11 ah Jun 10 11:21:15 what are pty's good for? Jun 10 11:21:17 mickeyl: and in /etc/udev/rules* Jun 10 11:21:24 mickeyl: pseudo terminals? Jun 10 11:21:29 like opie-console Jun 10 11:21:37 mickeyl: ssh sessions, xterms.. Jun 10 11:21:42 or its clone xterm Jun 10 11:21:53 hmm, ok, i guess on a phone i don't need 256 of those Jun 10 11:22:02 Yeah, a handful at most.. Jun 10 11:23:43 I'm not sure, but I think we can have variable sized pty's Jun 10 11:23:50 mickeyl: and you stop me from studying :} Jun 10 11:24:00 mickeyl: why is that an issue? (so manny tty files)? Jun 10 11:25:44 it slows done boot time Jun 10 11:25:59 "waiting for /dev to be fully populated" Jun 10 11:26:02 tap foot... Jun 10 11:26:25 go ahead with your studies... i will as well now :) Jun 10 11:26:26 mickeyl: okay :) Jun 10 11:27:36 mickeyl: http://lxr.linux.no/source/drivers/char/Kconfig Jun 10 11:27:46 mickeyl: search for pty, and check if that applies to your issue Jun 10 11:28:15 has anyone noticed any problems with the "recent" make versions i.e 3.81 ? Jun 10 11:28:36 oh and we can make LEGACY_PTYS down to 2 or such... Jun 10 11:28:46 mickeyl: all modern tools should use openpty anyway Jun 10 11:28:59 yeah, that may help Jun 10 11:29:15 http://lxr.linux.no/source/drivers/char/Kconfig#L468 Jun 10 11:29:35 *nod* Jun 10 11:29:55 you ever wrote an i2c driver? Jun 10 11:30:08 i need to do one in a couple of weeks Jun 10 11:30:13 mickeyl: not me, long story though :) Jun 10 11:30:43 mickeyl : I have but for atmel mcu's :/ Jun 10 11:30:59 i2c is easy(tm) Jun 10 11:31:10 i have a camera here attached to i2c Jun 10 11:31:14 a camera without spec sheets Jun 10 11:31:16 *grrrr* Jun 10 11:31:34 they do not transfer the image with i2c right? Jun 10 11:31:40 mickeyl : what chipset its using ? Jun 10 11:31:53 Ifaistos: likely built-in pxa Jun 10 11:32:04 zecke: no idea Jun 10 11:32:06 zecke : No it's for camema controls Jun 10 11:32:11 lfaistos: agilent adcm2700 Jun 10 11:32:13 hi mickeyl Jun 10 11:32:17 hey phil Jun 10 11:32:25 pb_: master, we just talked about LEGACY_PTY_SUPPORT Jun 10 11:32:35 pb_: this does not effect code which is using openpty/forkpty right? Jun 10 11:32:48 mickeyl : let me have a look in my "trasheap".... Jun 10 11:32:57 pb_: so one could turn it to 2 to stop udev from creaing 256 slaves and 256 masters? Jun 10 11:32:58 zecke: right Jun 10 11:33:01 lfaitos: yeah! :) Jun 10 11:33:07 * mickeyl crosses fingers Jun 10 11:33:17 pb_: do you know if xterm/rxvt is already using openpty? Jun 10 11:33:17 luckily we have 2.4 drivers, but they're of questionable quality Jun 10 11:33:27 zecke: I think one could turn it off altogether nowadays and rely on unix98 ptys Jun 10 11:33:43 thanks :) Jun 10 11:34:05 pb_: well, KConfig lower bound is '1' Jun 10 11:35:05 zecke: for LEGACY_PTY_COUNT? that's true, but you can turn off LEGACY_PTY altogether Jun 10 11:35:23 er, LEGACY_PTYS, that is Jun 10 11:42:36 zecke|study: enjoy Jun 10 11:57:59 mickeyl : i have something fo the adcm-1700 Jun 10 11:58:26 mickeyl : not sure though we did not get it under nda :/ Jun 10 11:58:55 hmm Jun 10 11:59:39 i wonder why cheap vga camera chips are treated like mission critical :) Jun 10 12:00:07 Who knows.. Jun 10 12:06:10 Has anyone noticed problems with make 3.81 ? Jun 10 12:06:30 i get all kinds of weird errors with it Jun 10 12:06:33 Ifaistos: Can't say that I have Jun 10 12:06:39 u-boot does not compile Jun 10 12:06:59 vwdial the same Jun 10 12:07:29 if i switch to a machine with 3.80 they do compile without problems Jun 10 12:08:29 Ifaistos: yes, we all had Jun 10 12:08:37 Ifaistos: I thought we had fixed those issues Jun 10 12:08:45 Ifaistos: most of them are due whitespaces :} Jun 10 12:14:34 zecke : in u-boot i had to change the order the modules were declared Jun 10 12:32:45 RP: hehe, I just saw your advertising of poky on the OE list Jun 10 12:32:52 RP: how good is LTT? Jun 10 12:33:51 oh my poky build just stopped (detect-stylus was not build) Jun 10 12:46:30 england will lose badly, and then our cities will burn once again :} Jun 10 12:46:54 ssssssh Jun 10 12:47:33 lol Jun 10 12:48:00 I will reverse the stragey Jun 10 12:48:08 England will win for sure... Jun 10 12:48:13 * zecke|study waits for the 1:1 Jun 10 12:48:23 own goal , oh dear Jun 10 12:48:57 woglinde: hey Jun 10 12:49:16 yes Jun 10 12:49:23 engelland engelland Jun 10 12:54:24 ~lart stupid makefiles Jun 10 12:54:24 * ibot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses stupid makefiles's head to break the homerun record Jun 10 12:54:45 ifaistos yes Jun 10 12:56:07 goal number 2 ??? Jun 10 12:56:11 missed Jun 10 12:58:28 zecke|study: LTT is a nice idea and does certain things well. I have issues with certain thingts it does Jun 10 12:58:50 zecke|study: I need to remove that detect-stylus dependency... Jun 10 12:59:08 RP: Hi ! Jun 10 12:59:14 hi Ifaistos Jun 10 12:59:29 RP: how do you replace it? Jun 10 12:59:30 ade no 1:0 for england Jun 10 12:59:46 *lutscher* Jun 10 12:59:52 zecke|study: udev script Jun 10 13:00:15 ah, this is writing ts.conf? Jun 10 13:00:30 zecke|study: Yes, ts.conf currently needs it Jun 10 13:00:41 I find this magic automake-native issue... weird Jun 10 13:01:09 zecke which one? Jun 10 13:01:23 woglinde: autoconf-native needing automake-native Jun 10 13:01:32 woglinde: it just pops up in the chain Jun 10 13:01:36 hm Jun 10 13:01:40 hi gremlin Jun 10 13:01:45 maybe we build RDEPENDS too early, or such Jun 10 13:01:53 woglinde: anyway debian really sucks Jun 10 13:01:58 zecke pff Jun 10 13:01:59 hi woglinde and all others ;) Jun 10 13:02:06 zecke|study: We follow the RDEPENDS and bitbake gets confused Jun 10 13:02:31 bitbake is a dirturbed basatrd Jun 10 13:02:52 I think this is the reason I like it Jun 10 13:03:06 the referee is cool Jun 10 13:03:18 zecke|study: basically we try and build the RDEPENDS of autoconf-native which includes automake-native. It then tries to build automake-native but ignores automake-native's DEPENDS as autoconf is already in the build chain Jun 10 13:03:20 okay, enough idling, back to the 'script' Jun 10 13:03:43 zecke whats the problem with debian now? Jun 10 13:03:44 RP: IMHO under any circumstance we should build autoconf-native first Jun 10 13:03:54 RP: and then look into RDEPENDS Jun 10 13:04:06 woglinde: broken upgrades Jun 10 13:04:22 zecke|study: RDEPENDS don't work like that though. Think of image targets Jun 10 13:04:40 :} Jun 10 13:04:52 anyway, autoconf can work without automake Jun 10 13:04:59 zecke you should use stable Jun 10 13:05:02 so we can just kill this RDEPENDS from the native version Jun 10 13:05:16 from all versions I think... Jun 10 13:05:17 woglinde: I should use Ubuntu Jun 10 13:05:33 zecke ubuntu cant suspend Jun 10 13:05:36 We should also fix bitbake though Jun 10 13:05:46 woglinde: this is a P4 blade ;) Jun 10 13:05:54 woglinde: It can't? Jun 10 13:06:02 woglinde: we have cooling, I don't need suspend Jun 10 13:06:04 * RP wonders what his laptop is doing then... Jun 10 13:06:12 rp zecke showed me some blog entry where some rant about it Jun 10 13:06:15 RP: some debian blogger... tried Ubuntu on his thinkpad Jun 10 13:06:27 RP: as he wants Ubuntu Dapper on a server Jun 10 13:06:47 Mine does run my own custom kernel I guess... Jun 10 13:06:51 RP: but as the dapper kernel has issues with usb and irda, and after acpi suspend some kernel task is going 99% Jun 10 13:06:59 RP: he says Ubuntu is not ready for servers Jun 10 13:07:02 *moron* Jun 10 13:07:27 RP: and he filed a bug that Debian does not have this issue... Jun 10 13:07:39 woglinde: I think a broken kernel image violates the social contract? Jun 10 13:07:46 lol Jun 10 13:07:55 telnet ascii-wm.net 2006 Jun 10 13:08:38 zecke you are a moron too please use fefe-linux Jun 10 13:09:06 Hm, ewi doesn't have the oe.db for monotone 0.25 anymore? Jun 10 13:09:06 woglinde: Chocolate bars are not included I guess? Jun 10 13:09:35 databeaver use vanille Jun 10 13:09:55 DataBeaver: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Jun 10 13:10:45 woglinde: I wonder why I only have one version of autoconf Jun 10 13:10:53 woglinde: and why this version carries cvs in the name Jun 10 13:12:12 zecke what update goes wrong, maybee I should money from you for consulting Jun 10 13:12:16 +tak Jun 10 13:12:17 e Jun 10 13:12:31 zecke|study: Thanks, I wondered a few days ago where that page had disappeared Jun 10 13:13:26 hrw|gone: could you add gnutls mirrors to base.bbclass of oe.dev? Jun 10 13:15:33 hi goxbox Jun 10 13:15:42 goxbox whats the htc universal doing? Jun 10 14:00:43 NAbyss: did you find any time to look into the results yet? Jun 10 14:01:06 zecke|study: Yeah, I've started, just haven't finished ye Jun 10 14:01:07 t Jun 10 14:01:28 awesome :) Jun 10 14:11:11 morning Jun 10 14:12:57 hi chouimat Jun 10 14:14:28 hi all. gcc 4.1.1 success. I just managed to build and boot the nslu2 openslug kernel (arm be) with gcc4.1.1 (and the root fs) Jun 10 14:14:47 effem gratz Jun 10 14:14:50 latest change is being pushed right now Jun 10 14:14:50 tnx Jun 10 14:15:50 still left the PREFERRED flag in the gcc 4.1.1.bb file on -1 (I used the slugos PREFERRED to override) Jun 10 14:16:09 didn't want to decide on changing this on my own ... Jun 10 14:16:34 eFfeM: it's a great test case. Jun 10 14:16:39 nice Jun 10 14:16:57 We will use it for the default configuration for SlugOS 4.x unstable (monotone head) Jun 10 14:18:02 if anyone on a different target would be willing to give 4.1.1 a try as well that would be great Jun 10 14:18:27 hm Jun 10 14:18:37 btw I am using glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r7 Jun 10 14:22:00 Anyone here have any experience unlocking cell phones? Jun 10 14:22:52 Crofton: not much, one AT command you need to know Jun 10 14:23:02 yeah Jun 10 14:23:15 I need to unlock my phone so I can get a SIM for Canada Jun 10 14:35:18 Crofton, i dont belive you need to with SIM cards Jun 10 14:35:27 just put the new SIM in it Jun 10 14:35:37 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r4dfe02d9... 10/packages/gcc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 10 14:35:37 gcc-4.1.1: added patch for configure to compile with the right target flags Jun 10 14:35:37 (copied from 3.4.4). bumped PR for both 4.1.1 bb files Jun 10 14:35:41 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r9d41fcc4... 10/conf/distro/slugos.conf: slugos.conf: set preferred gcc version to 4.1.1 Jun 10 14:35:47 atleast i neve have Jun 10 14:35:51 never* Jun 10 14:36:18 <[cc]smart> is somebody known to have looked at using http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc/ ? Jun 10 14:36:42 but you wont be able to switch carriers, but that doesnt matter anyway Jun 10 14:36:44 cc build a little routerimage with it Jun 10 14:36:49 some years ago Jun 10 14:37:08 england winds Jun 10 14:37:22 England wins? Jun 10 14:37:23 because its rare for them to support the same phone mauf as other carriers Jun 10 14:37:29 ups wins Jun 10 14:37:30 yes Jun 10 14:37:34 yay ! Jun 10 14:37:39 1:0 Jun 10 14:38:12 so have to cut carpet further Jun 10 14:46:58 eFfeM: i will push the uclibc patches for 4.1.1 on monday if i can Jun 10 14:52:48 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r222dc41b... 10/packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.9.1.bb: asterisk 1.2.9.1: added dependency for curl Jun 10 14:54:42 woglinde: crumbs, ups have a team this year? Jun 10 15:14:17 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9b66eece... 10/packages/xproto/ (6 files): xproto: add X11R7.1 release Jun 10 15:14:20 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7e8c6b5c... 10/packages/xlibs/libxi_X11R7.0-1.0.0.bb: libxi-X11R7.0-1.0.0: depend on libxext, not xext Jun 10 15:14:24 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r29905b31... 10/packages/xlibs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): xlibs: move patches for lbxutil and libx11 to common dirs Jun 10 15:14:28 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9828ffa1... 10/packages/xlibs/ (29 files): xlibs: add X11R7.1 release Jun 10 15:14:37 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r67ed00b3... 10/packages/xserver/ (6 files in 2 dirs): xserver-kdrive: add X11R7.1 release and git version Jun 10 15:43:02 re Jun 10 15:43:17 carpet ready yeah Jun 10 15:46:46 woglinde: can it fly? Jun 10 15:47:10 will try to teacht it next week Jun 10 16:06:48 http://www.openbsd.org/images/tshirt-5b.jpg <- lol Jun 10 16:07:54 heh Jun 10 16:08:25 re pb Jun 10 16:34:39 re woglinde Jun 10 16:36:23 trinidad rockz Jun 10 16:38:42 hi Jun 10 16:39:11 ibot: botmail ? Jun 10 16:39:28 ibot: wake up Jun 10 16:39:31 up: GOOD MORNING!!! Jun 10 16:39:51 ibot: botmail Jun 10 16:40:31 RP: could you ask Chris if he really needs gconftool-2 installed on the host for web? Jun 10 16:40:59 RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=59&logfile=20060610145923.log&page=257 Jun 10 17:03:21 CoreDump|home: hey Jun 10 17:03:37 CoreDump|home: mickeyl claimed slow boots are due legacy pty support as well Jun 10 17:03:55 CoreDump|home: if you look at boot speed, you could disable legacy pty support in the kernel config Jun 10 17:03:59 CoreDump|home: and look for differences Jun 10 17:04:11 yep, udev is creating like 60 tty devicefiles Jun 10 17:05:01 CoreDump|home: how much time does it take? Jun 10 17:05:49 can't remember atm Jun 10 17:08:33 uh Jun 10 17:08:39 legacy suckz Jun 10 17:15:26 * chouimat is away: stuff Jun 10 17:37:48 woglinde: rpmstrap is nice Jun 10 17:37:54 woglinde: at least it is not using chroot :} Jun 10 17:41:17 woglinde: do you know whom to ask to fix debootstrap? Jun 10 17:41:53 zecke use the magic off reportbug Jun 10 17:42:01 its a pyhton programm Jun 10 17:42:24 woglinde: lol: Window Compute Cluster Server 2003 went to production this week Jun 10 17:42:32 woglinde: just three years behind schedule? Jun 10 17:42:47 hihi Jun 10 17:42:59 any normal business would... Jun 10 17:43:26 hmm /me suddently is reminded of a Berlin company Jun 10 17:44:13 woglinde: well, I can not mail my bug report Jun 10 17:44:23 lol Jun 10 17:44:25 http://thedailywtf.com/ Jun 10 17:44:45 woglinde: I should probably rant as long as debootstrap is not fixed Jun 10 17:44:48 and blog everyday Jun 10 17:44:55 do this Jun 10 17:44:57 debootstrap bug: uptime Jun 10 17:45:15 .o(where are my schokoriegels) Jun 10 17:46:48 lol Jun 10 17:46:57 lol Jun 10 17:47:12 I hope ClickYes was a dialer or spyware Jun 10 17:47:29 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r0bda2d2b... 10/packages/ (35 files in 3 dirs): efl, e17: update to newest versions Jun 10 17:47:54 woglinde: I should have taken some screenshots yesterday Jun 10 17:48:12 woglinde: nautilus is a piece of shit when it comes to error reporting... Jun 10 17:48:24 woglinde: I were not able to remove a Network Place (ssh) Jun 10 17:48:43 thats the best Jun 10 17:48:45 Install, on the server, a newly purchased program called ClickYes that automatically clicks "Yes" to those dialogs. Jun 10 17:52:37 lol Jun 10 17:52:39 http://www.contextmagic.com/express-clickyes Jun 10 17:53:54 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r64266fbb... 10/.mt-attrs: .mt-attrs: remove file which no longer exists Jun 10 17:53:58 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * ref69f207... 10/packages/meta/e-image.bb: e-image: add gaim and sylpheed Jun 10 17:54:03 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * re057670f... 10/packages/ (35 files in 3 dirs): Jun 10 17:54:03 efl, e17: update to newest versions Jun 10 17:54:03 - Note: this is a successful use of contrib/mtnpatch.py to do cherrypicking Jun 10 17:55:55 hehe Jun 10 17:56:45 njs: how are you? Jun 10 17:56:56 njs: attr has no 'add'? Jun 10 17:57:10 JustinP: I have a feature request for mtnpatch.py Jun 10 17:57:45 JustinP: could we use mtn attr to set the 'merge base' of the cherry pick? Jun 10 17:58:27 zecke|study: 'merge base'? Jun 10 17:58:36 the rev you cherry picked from Jun 10 18:03:04 might be out of scope though Jun 10 18:03:46 you mean set an attr on the newly checked in rev which says which rev it's from? Jun 10 18:04:07 hmmm....I don't really know how that works....and I don't know if that's a rev thing, I thought attrs were for files Jun 10 18:04:21 perhaps adding a custom cert.... Jun 10 18:04:34 or just adding the rev info to _MTN/tmp Jun 10 18:04:37 (MT/tmp) Jun 10 18:05:00 yes Jun 10 18:05:13 except that the rev isn't stored in the patch.... Jun 10 18:06:03 doing that would require mtnpatch to do the diff as well as the patch. Right now it's only for patching, not for diffing Jun 10 18:06:35 (if mtn included rev info in the diff that would fix this) Jun 10 18:06:45 so it is out of scope for now Jun 10 18:06:51 for now Jun 10 18:06:57 and I add mtndiff hacking to my todo list... Jun 10 18:07:22 but I (or someone else) could make a mtncherrypick which uses mtnpatch Jun 10 18:33:13 of course, such a script would need to know both the "from" workspace, the "to" workspace, and the rev to pick Jun 10 18:33:54 we could even make it check in the changes, but I think that would be going too far Jun 10 18:34:10 it could add the changelogs for all of the cherrypicked revs to MT/tmp Jun 10 18:44:03 one could implement it in c++ and put it into mtn Jun 10 18:44:05 :} Jun 10 18:46:32 re Jun 10 18:47:41