**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 25 02:59:56 2006 Jun 25 03:01:01 weird Jun 25 03:01:30 what about this: | /stuff/build/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r7/build-arm-linux/config.h:3:3: #error "glibc cannot be compiled without optimization" Jun 25 03:02:18 why would a prog require optimization??? i understand what it would WANT, but need? Jun 25 03:02:29 what/that Jun 25 03:08:16 Interrobang: what did you selected to make it choose gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1? Jun 25 03:09:45 1m Jun 25 03:11:02 ok Jun 25 03:11:37 i started from org.openembedded.oz354x/conf/local.conf.openzaurus-3.5.4 and i changed it to http://pastebin.ca/71020 Jun 25 03:12:02 modified it to add MACHINE="c7x0" and DISTRO_VERSION="3.5.4.1" Jun 25 03:12:14 i tried it b4 without the distro version var Jun 25 03:12:28 and with distro="openzaurus-3.5.4.1" Jun 25 03:15:05 do you think openzaurus uses gcc-cross-4? Jun 25 03:17:59 i compiled the same package with the .dev branch the 1st try, i think it uses 2.95.3, not sure what to look for though Jun 25 03:19:43 (00:09:54) Interrobang: NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1: task do_compile: failed Jun 25 03:20:00 this line says bitbake is trying to build gcc-cross Jun 25 03:20:09 er 4.0.0-r1 Jun 25 03:21:23 yeah i know, but i'm not sure what my succesful build in .dev uses Jun 25 03:21:43 i'm just going by the dierctory /usr/local/arm/2.95.3/ Jun 25 03:24:42 i'm not sure about this, but maybe the org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/openzaurus.conf is different from openembedded.oz354x/conf/distro/openzaurus.conf Jun 25 03:34:28 thejapa: there are differences, such as a DISTRO_NAME var and such, also differences between .oz354x openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf and .dev openzaurus-unstable.conf Jun 25 03:34:52 the .oz354x files look like stripped down and customized versions of the .dev branch files **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 25 03:54:30 2006 Jun 25 07:15:53 morning Jun 25 07:37:41 morning Jun 25 07:38:46 CoreDump|home i want to add a line in /etc/init.d/opie Where do i find that *.bb file in OE dev branch? Jun 25 07:49:44 goxboxlive: I believe it's in opie-taskbar Jun 25 07:57:02 ok, thx. Jun 25 08:02:32 np Jun 25 08:05:57 I have another problem. I dont want to use qt-multithread. How do i prevent that. I have added this line to my distro conf file: PALMTOP_USE_MULTITHREADED_QT = "no" but it still makes libqte-mt in my /opt/QtPalmtop/lib. I just wnt it to use libqte. Jun 25 08:17:11 morning all Jun 25 08:17:27 Ifaistos: morning Jun 25 08:17:32 goxboxlive: dunno, sorry Jun 25 08:18:04 ok Jun 25 08:21:40 morning Jun 25 08:22:31 CoreDump : morning Jun 25 08:32:27 njs: Should monotone 0.27 pass the test suite? Jun 25 08:49:41 hi zecke: Can you help me with a little thing? Jun 25 08:50:14 I dont want to use qt-multithread. How do i prevent that. I have added this line to my distro conf file: PALMTOP_USE_MULTITHREADED_QT = "no" but it still makes libqte-mt in my /opt/QtPalmtop/lib. I just wnt it to use libqte. Jun 25 08:51:33 ping RP Jun 25 08:51:45 /cr Jun 25 08:51:53 hi Jun 25 08:51:58 hey Marcin Jun 25 08:52:01 This is because all the repo i have found have applcations that depends on libqte2. And also i have my keyboard want work in Opie when i am using multithread. Jun 25 08:52:08 lrg: RP is at guadec for next week Jun 25 08:52:19 hrw: so am I :) Jun 25 08:52:29 goxboxlive: its rather 0/1 switch Jun 25 08:52:36 lrg: ;) Jun 25 08:52:51 hrw: I'm in Spain now, but I'm not sure when he gets here. Jun 25 08:53:22 hrw: I'm going to try and meet him tonight for the England game. Jun 25 08:54:05 hrw: I dint get that, what do you mean by 0/1 switch. Jun 25 08:54:16 PALMTOP_USE_MULTITHREADED_QT = "no" Jun 25 08:55:34 goxboxlive: s/no/0 rather Jun 25 08:57:01 ah.. now I see.. its 'yes/anything_other' switch even... Jun 25 08:57:06 ~blame mickey|fifa2006 Jun 25 08:57:08 * ibot blames mickey|fifa2006 (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Jun 25 08:57:34 Ok, i can try that, but in the file originally is with "yes" and not "1" . But i'll try,, and report back. Jun 25 08:57:49 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libqte2 = '${@base_conditional("PALMTOP_USE_MULTITHREADED_QT", "yes", "qte-mt", "qte", d)}' Jun 25 08:58:02 if 'yes' then qte-mt, qte in other way Jun 25 08:59:24 ok, thanks hrw. Jun 25 09:00:27 np Jun 25 09:00:56 ok. now food, then go to city for 80wire ide cable Jun 25 09:01:33 I replaced hdd cable yesterday with 40wire one and it looks like cable was broken because it works now quite ok Jun 25 09:02:47 now will dd 19G partition to /dev/null to check does system will feel it Jun 25 09:04:19 hrw: do you have S.M.A.R.T? you could do a self test as well Jun 25 09:04:52 zecke: have smart and smartdaemon do tests from time to time Jun 25 09:05:05 goxboxlive: didn't you have this issue some weeks ago? ;) Jun 25 09:06:10 zecke: last 'long' test was 57 workhours ago Jun 25 09:06:28 started new one Jun 25 09:08:56 zecke: But it wasent solved, because mickel told me that it was bether to use multithread when using konqueror-embedded. But i havent found any repos without libqte depedencies. I just want it to work for others when they download the image. There is no problem for me, i can build the packages my self, but others who is using it will not have any repo to install from. Tha's why i want it to work. And also the keyboard problem with the u Jun 25 09:08:57 niversal in Opie. Jun 25 09:10:34 goxboxlive: ah okay Jun 25 09:11:12 hi all Jun 25 09:12:08 hey Jun 25 09:12:15 hi mr_nice_slacker Jun 25 09:13:17 sorry yesterday my client sucked me a bit now I have a new one - I thought that I was online but I don't was hopfuly wodlinge comes to the channel today Jun 25 09:15:57 does anyone know how frequent he is on this channel? Jun 25 09:16:26 mr_nice_slacker: daily? Jun 25 09:16:56 :) Jun 25 09:18:10 ~lart boost for not supporting builddir != srcdir Jun 25 09:18:11 * ibot holds boost to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails for not supporting builddir != srcdir Jun 25 09:19:10 koen_: hey Jun 25 09:19:42 hi koen_, zecke Jun 25 09:20:13 koen_: sadly the monotone 0.27 tests fail :( Jun 25 09:23:03 hi koen Jun 25 09:23:56 good morning all Jun 25 09:24:03 zecke:I am on creating a 0.27 package at the moment I will upload it as soon it is complet (only 1GHz machine) Jun 25 09:24:08 mornig Jun 25 09:24:33 mr_nice_slacker: it is not about creating a package, but make check not failing :) Jun 25 09:25:35 So, what version should people use now? 0.26 ? Jun 25 09:25:46 0.25 Jun 25 09:25:56 zecke:yes but a package would be nice, too? Jun 25 09:26:02 NAbyss: Thanks. Jun 25 09:27:36 Even though i swittch it to "0" and add the line you gave me in local.conf it put the file /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte-mt.so.2.3.10 . It is so strange, because it builds from qt-2.3.10 and not qt-mt .. It also use qt-embedded-2.3.10-free. Isent it strange? Jun 25 09:28:24 goxboxlive: I don't understand your question: There is nothing beside qt-embedded-2.3.10-free Jun 25 09:28:32 zecke: what kind of tests fail? Jun 25 09:28:54 goxboxlive: did you rebuild libqte? Jun 25 09:29:09 no, i'll try that. Jun 25 09:29:23 koen: many, it totally stops processing the tests after testing merging Jun 25 09:29:40 koen: and many invariants are violated, I wonder if this is "should fail" kind of test... Jun 25 09:30:07 zecke: Yes i did, sorry, i did a qte -cclean and build it again. Jun 25 09:30:38 later guys Jun 25 09:30:45 zecke: ask the monotone peeps Jun 25 09:30:48 cu Jun 25 09:32:36 ~change 380 gbp to pln Jun 25 09:32:42 380.00 Pound (GBP) makes 2,265.68 Zloty (PLN) (from http://www.xe.com/) Jun 25 09:34:32 koen: compiling mtn on my ppc now and testing there Jun 25 09:34:48 koen: I'm compiling boost on the other machine as well Jun 25 09:36:46 hey zecke Jun 25 09:43:01 cu Jun 25 10:05:11 each day, more and more spam goes through handhelds.org Jun 25 10:05:32 I know of Opie devles having stopped doing development due the massive spam attacks... Jun 25 10:10:26 :( Jun 25 10:10:49 only accept signed mails? Jun 25 10:14:57 mr_nice_slacker: dunno, Some how other mailing lists handle spam better Jun 25 10:15:04 even the one without moderation enabled Jun 25 10:24:27 I think it is just to easy to write skripts for mailman things. Captchas not the holy gral but they can slow down things. Jun 25 10:25:18 ~botmail for koen using gcc-4.0 (for boost and mtn) looks like it is passing all tests Jun 25 10:32:57 koen: hey Jun 25 10:43:35 koen: hey Jun 25 10:43:46 hey zecke Jun 25 10:43:51 good news on the boost thing Jun 25 10:44:02 koen: well either boost or gcc4 vs gcc3.4 Jun 25 10:49:40 koen: okay, it is gcc 3.4 Jun 25 10:49:50 so I was too conservative yesterday Jun 25 11:48:42 hey likewise Jun 25 11:48:53 hey koen Jun 25 11:49:15 koen: did you get around to a dive or two? Jun 25 11:49:41 I didn't complete the course :( Jun 25 11:51:36 koen: other stuff was more fun? Jun 25 11:52:11 no, I couldn't breathe right underwater Jun 25 11:52:47 diaphragm breathing and a bcd don't go together Jun 25 11:53:22 btw, a bcd is a very cool toy Jun 25 11:55:25 koen: I am not an expert on diving, but http://www.genesisdiving.com/buoyancy.shtml suggests diaphram breathing is even preferred for buoyancy. Jun 25 11:56:03 koen: I am an airpirate myself BTW, my girlfriend can dive twice the period I can with one tank. Jun 25 11:58:55 if you put on your bcd the right way, you can't expand your belly anymore Jun 25 11:59:52 I think I'll do a local course soon(tm) Jun 25 11:59:59 3 days is a bit short Jun 25 12:01:28 koen: too bad it didn't work out the first time. I remember it took me a bit to get acquinted with the devices and trust them. Jun 25 12:01:45 And I think my course was at least 5 days Jun 25 12:02:59 koen: I am thinking of picking up trick kiting as a hobby again: http://www.levelonekites.com/deutsch/medien/vidclips/JJF1.wmv Jun 25 12:04:45 that's looking pretty cool Jun 25 12:08:57 make sure you see the synchronised pair flying at 1m40s - awesome control Jun 25 12:09:18 gives me the chillies. Jun 25 12:09:28 ( kippevel :-)) Jun 25 12:27:21 gah Jun 25 12:27:40 ~lart gallery2's "square thumbnails" Jun 25 12:27:40 * ibot takes gallery2's "square thumbnails" to the vet for a "special" visit Jun 25 12:32:54 likewise: we did manage to make underwater pics with the underwater cams: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/barbados2006/barbadosdag8/_21_00011.jpg.html?q=gallery Jun 25 12:33:38 koen: opening Jun 25 12:46:54 koen: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/index.php/v/barbados2006/barbadosdag8/_21_00011.jpg.html?q=gallery <- you look like a german tourist Jun 25 12:47:40 zecke: damn, you guessed my secret identity Jun 25 12:48:03 koen: did you reserve chairs with your towels? Jun 25 12:48:13 heh Jun 25 12:48:16 I did not Jun 25 12:48:39 and I didn't dig holes in the beach either ;) Jun 25 12:48:51 okay, you look like a german, but you didn't behave like a german Jun 25 12:53:11 my mission to convert prpplague to OE did fail, though Jun 25 13:03:09 zecke: Now it buildt without qt-mt. I had to start all over again . Jun 25 13:15:19 koen: you don't have a good sun tan ;) Jun 25 14:34:56 koen: my girlfriend sometimes dives without a BCD, but uses Belly Controlled Depth instead :-) Jun 25 14:39:30 woglinde:hi, did you found some time to upload the kernel tar file? Jun 25 17:18:23 cya later Jun 25 17:35:25 morning all Jun 25 17:35:37 oi Jun 25 17:52:54 emte, got my local.conf working. i guess i'll save the whole /stuff dir to a cd now. :) Jun 25 17:52:57 gotta go Jun 25 17:53:35 good job Jun 25 18:22:39 I'm currently at a standstill attempting to build OZ 3.5.4.1. I'm building on a slow system which rebooted during a thunderstorm last night. Now, when I attempt to continue the build of task-bootstrap, I get http://pastebin.ca/71404 . There doesn't seem to be anything directory I can delete to make it happy again. Any suggestions? Jun 25 18:25:45 KerwoodDerby: there' always something you can delete to wind things back Jun 25 18:25:59 I'm all eyes Jun 25 18:26:51 use the clean command Jun 25 18:27:03 as in bitbake clean? Jun 25 18:27:05 is what i'd suggest Jun 25 18:27:14 for the package that failed Jun 25 18:27:24 otherwise i can tell you how to manuall doit Jun 25 18:27:28 manually* Jun 25 18:28:20 so I should type "bitbake clean"? Jun 25 18:28:48 emte: i tried using DISTRO_VERSION and it failed again at t different spot while building the toolchain (error report was posted last night) Jun 25 18:29:14 Interrobang, link? Jun 25 18:29:28 bitbake -c packagename Jun 25 18:29:33 i think is the command Jun 25 18:30:45 emte: the -c option specifies a command to execute Jun 25 18:31:35 okay manual then Jun 25 18:32:08 emte: I'm afriad you're going to have to tell me how to fix this manually, since bitbake's Usage: is rather lean on info. Jun 25 18:32:14 emte: it's in the chat history Jun 25 18:32:28 OK, where is the chat history archived? Jun 25 18:32:37 emte, how do I find out what sanity.conf is shouting about? Jun 25 18:32:38 you will need to go into the stamps dir and rm the files related to that package Jun 25 18:32:50 as well as the ones in your working dir Jun 25 18:32:58 KristofferZzZ: you should be sleeping Jun 25 18:33:09 KerwoodDerby, :) Jun 25 18:33:23 ok Jun 25 18:33:57 KristofferZzZ, you have more info on your actual problem? Jun 25 18:35:31 Interrobang, did you paste the link when everyone was booted off freenode? Jun 25 18:36:02 i am not seeing it Jun 25 18:36:13 emte, just refuses to start compiling, complains about not valid distro Jun 25 18:36:17 but the distro name is correct Jun 25 18:36:25 but the version isnt Jun 25 18:36:36 hello all. I am having some trouble trying to bitbake libtool-native. do_configure returns the following error, including the very first time it is executed: | configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first Jun 25 18:36:40 any ideas? Jun 25 18:36:47 emte, version = distro? Jun 25 18:36:51 no Jun 25 18:37:11 what are you trying to compile? Jun 25 18:37:24 emte, cant even get it started Jun 25 18:37:34 what distro areyou trying to compile/ Jun 25 18:37:35 emte: i'll pm you since it's multilined Jun 25 18:37:42 Before I could just ignore the sanity and it started properly Jun 25 18:37:43 sure Jun 25 18:37:48 emte, jlime-donkey Jun 25 18:38:34 that list few lines after the last ERROR line are chat text Jun 25 18:38:46 what files for jlime are listed in your org.openembedded.BLAH/conf/distro dir? Jun 25 18:38:52 * Interrobang used a quick regex replace to remove extra log info Jun 25 18:39:02 emte, jlime-donkey.conf Jun 25 18:39:53 * emte wonders if donkey is supposed to be the version ... Jun 25 18:40:13 emte, it is, .. Jun 25 18:40:26 you using the newest bitbake? Jun 25 18:40:33 hmm yeah Jun 25 18:40:37 Interrobang, why are you using gcc-4.0.0? Jun 25 18:40:48 fixes some segfault issues Jun 25 18:40:54 i didn't choose it, the conf files don't specificy anything Jun 25 18:41:06 lol specificy Jun 25 18:41:20 Interrobang, try an override to use either 3.3.5 or 4.1 Jun 25 18:41:29 what do i put? Jun 25 18:41:34 they seem the most stable Jun 25 18:41:43 there aren't any PREFERRED_TARGET lines anywhere Jun 25 18:42:16 KristofferZzZ, try this: DISTRO = "jlime" DISTRO_VERSION="donkey" Jun 25 18:42:39 emte, oki Jun 25 18:42:49 Interrobang, sec i have to remember how to override packages Jun 25 18:44:34 emte, any ideas why should a package that was just bitback -c clean and bitbake again return a | configure: error: source directory already configured; run "make distclean" there first Jun 25 18:44:37 ? Jun 25 18:45:12 you didnt del the working dir Jun 25 18:45:22 emte: did too :( Jun 25 18:45:25 poli: broken source release probably? Jun 25 18:45:35 are your stamps still in place? Jun 25 18:45:55 maybe clean is broken Jun 25 18:46:08 I had to delete the tmp dir and do a bitbake -c clean so that bitbake would untar the package and try to compile it again. Jun 25 18:46:21 poli look in your stamps dir Jun 25 18:46:25 CoreDump|home: It is libtool-native on .dev building angstrom-2006.9 Jun 25 18:46:34 if that package name exists rm it Jun 25 18:46:45 Anyways, that was the very first time I did a bitbake after a fresh co of .dev. Jun 25 18:47:02 emte: checking. Jun 25 18:48:11 KristofferZzZ, did that help? Jun 25 18:49:11 emte: a bitbake libtool-native -c clean eliminates the stamps as it should. Jun 25 18:49:57 then it must be broken as CoreDump|home says Jun 25 18:50:08 manually run the distclean cmd Jun 25 18:50:21 otherthan that ... Jun 25 18:53:54 emte: OK, I found all the places related to tslib other then the the directory in packages, deleted those files, and restarted the task-boostrap goal. But after first re-fetching and re-compiling, it dies at the same place with the same complaint: "unable to locate shared library" Jun 25 18:53:59 emte: the really weird part is that this message appears on the very first run. Would it be possible that bitbake is executing configure twice? Jun 25 18:54:51 poli, if someone wrote it taht way Jun 25 18:55:03 emte: Incidentally, thanks for your time on this... Jun 25 18:56:11 KerwoodDerby, your compiling oz? Jun 25 18:56:17 * emte forgets Jun 25 18:56:20 emte: is there a weay to find out if that problem is limited to my install or if it happens somewhere else? Jun 25 18:56:25 emte: That's the idea, yeah Jun 25 18:56:43 poli, use -i or read the metafiles Jun 25 18:56:59 CoreDump|home, you compiled oz lately? Jun 25 18:57:22 yeah, but not .dev Jun 25 18:57:52 heis building 3.4.5.1 Jun 25 18:58:03 er Jun 25 18:58:09 3.5.4.1 Jun 25 18:59:13 i guess that must have worked for KristofferZzZ Jun 25 18:59:55 emte: I've ruefully learned one should never confuse silence with agreement Jun 25 19:00:23 lol Jun 25 19:00:45 usually disgruntled is voiced :) Jun 25 19:00:52 true Jun 25 19:01:17 yeah... configure is being run twice in one of the directories. Jun 25 19:01:33 Seems pretty much like OE problem to me. Jun 25 19:02:28 lokk at the bb metafile Jun 25 19:02:31 look* Jun 25 19:02:47 might have been a misapplyed patch Jun 25 19:03:48 emte: I have cleaned from the start 3 times. None of them returns a patching error. I will compile it by hand and check. Jun 25 19:04:10 i mean whne the bb file was patched Jun 25 19:04:15 when* Jun 25 19:04:20 in the repo Jun 25 19:04:41 emte: could me DB be de problem, then? Jun 25 19:04:44 *my Jun 25 19:04:50 bb files are rarley replaced, changes are usually patched in Jun 25 19:08:23 emte: so I guess that, failing any positive advice to the contrary, I should delete my tmp directory and start the build over, eh? Jun 25 19:09:26 KerwoodDerby, i was hoping CoreDump|home might have had a thought for your issue Jun 25 19:09:52 emte: those compiler lines gave a bunch of errors just in a initialization stages of bitbake. i'm trying to use the tool chain from the .dev branch in .oz354x now Jun 25 19:09:53 myself i dont own a zaurus Jun 25 19:10:07 emte: what do you use? Jun 25 19:10:12 dunno sorry Jun 25 19:10:13 I guess I need to get a computer faster than the thunderstorms can interrupt their power... Jun 25 19:10:25 ive an ipaq Jun 25 19:10:27 I haven't compiled .dev in ages Jun 25 19:10:27 something like that Jun 25 19:10:42 CoreDump|home, he isnt compiling dev Jun 25 19:10:50 3.5.4.1 Jun 25 19:10:52 eh, .oz builds fine Jun 25 19:11:14 well my last from-scratch build was a few weeks ago Jun 25 19:11:16 emte: which model? Jun 25 19:11:32 h3760 for the most part Jun 25 19:11:48 maybe i'll ge an h5555 tho Jun 25 19:11:57 depends if i canswing a deal Jun 25 19:11:59 CoreDump|home: try testing a from scratch build of a package with a fresh setup following the getting started instructions Jun 25 19:12:33 i bet ppl are making changes to the oz build process with tainted setup Jun 25 19:13:03 there weren't any major changes in .oz for weeks ;) Jun 25 19:13:15 and starting from-scratch would take ~8hrs Jun 25 19:13:18 doesn't take a major one to mess everythign up Jun 25 19:13:51 several ppl have been through here lately with similar problems trying to build the cross compiler tools Jun 25 19:13:55 hello ppl Jun 25 19:14:46 after yesterday chat, i've started with a new local.conf, i've succesfully bitbaked nano from familiar-unstable for h2200 in .dev Jun 25 19:14:48 CoreDump|home, i dont suppose you could toss your local.conf on rafb would you? Jun 25 19:14:55 that would help Jun 25 19:14:56 yeah, i know it shouldn't work Jun 25 19:15:14 we really need a working example Jun 25 19:15:20 devs should do that anyway Jun 25 19:15:20 heh sure but err, it's a little bit "different" Jun 25 19:15:34 thejapa, shouldnt, will, wont are not garanteed with unstable Jun 25 19:15:37 i'm right now build opie-image, it is build qte now. Jun 25 19:15:42 we'll start from a working example then drive the confgi to what we want Jun 25 19:15:52 just give us a start Jun 25 19:16:10 btw, i'll post mine too. Jun 25 19:16:22 thejapa: does your oz confgi work? Jun 25 19:16:27 ...config Jun 25 19:16:29 damnit Jun 25 19:16:41 thejapa is building fam-unstable Jun 25 19:16:50 dif repo dif distro Jun 25 19:16:56 Interrobang: not trying oz Jun 25 19:17:05 emte, believe it or not, i'm using .dev Jun 25 19:17:24 i use that too, it worked 1st time for me Jun 25 19:17:26 thejapa, i am actually not supprised the h22 works Jun 25 19:17:43 emte: why? Jun 25 19:17:48 i think eabi stuff exists for it Jun 25 19:17:52 ah Jun 25 19:18:05 youd have to look in angstrom to be sure tho Jun 25 19:18:09 but angstrom is failing on eabi for me. i don't seem to understand Jun 25 19:18:22 familiar doesnt use eabi Jun 25 19:18:26 haven't look hard Jun 25 19:18:33 hmm pastebin is kinda slow Jun 25 19:18:41 but the configs might be close enough for it to work Jun 25 19:18:53 CoreDump|home, rafb.net/paste Jun 25 19:18:56 CoreDump|home: for me too. Jun 25 19:19:23 thejapa: you're buildign familiar for Z? Jun 25 19:19:31 emte: thanks Jun 25 19:19:37 http://rafb.net/paste/results/0auPIa41.html <- my local.conf Jun 25 19:19:59 not the best example, really Jun 25 19:20:47 http://pastebin.ca/71444 Jun 25 19:20:57 Interrobang: no, for h2200 Jun 25 19:21:20 CoreDump|home, what is the secnd cat? Jun 25 19:21:29 I'd go for angstrom, but it breaks on eabi Jun 25 19:22:05 emte: set|grep OE to show the variables used by local.conf Jun 25 19:22:09 maybe i'll try angstrom later. today. :) Jun 25 19:22:27 aha Jun 25 19:22:55 yeah my enviro is slightly diff Jun 25 19:23:18 i am curious tho Jun 25 19:23:39 your machine is spitz but your using collie memory sizes? Jun 25 19:23:50 emte: =D Jun 25 19:24:07 this conf is used for build of collie, poodle, akita and spitz ;) Jun 25 19:24:22 ah, there we go Jun 25 19:24:38 I just source a shell script which sets different vars for that config Jun 25 19:24:54 yeah Jun 25 19:25:01 simular to what i do Jun 25 19:25:28 altho i just switch my local.conf instead Jun 25 19:26:00 same idea Jun 25 19:26:04 ;) Jun 25 19:26:14 i have "screen" running with a session for each machine Jun 25 19:26:42 must be killing your machine having that much python running :P Jun 25 19:27:07 heh Jun 25 19:27:23 I only build one machine at a time...which takes ~8hrs :\ Jun 25 19:27:42 ah Jun 25 19:28:16 i capture upto task-bootstrap Jun 25 19:28:31 and untar it for the next build Jun 25 19:28:47 cuts down on time a bit Jun 25 19:28:52 now *thats* a good idea Jun 25 19:29:09 as long as they are closeenoughand you have the drive space Jun 25 19:29:18 close enough and* Jun 25 19:29:38 its that inital compile of glibc that kills Jun 25 19:29:45 with 4 buildroots my space is getting short Jun 25 19:29:59 I'm using about 30G ATM Jun 25 19:30:16 but glibc is indeed a bitch Jun 25 19:30:31 don't you *hate* it when someone bumps its PR? :) Jun 25 19:30:34 you could just capture upto past thta Jun 25 19:30:43 lol Jun 25 19:30:53 doesnt happen much in familiar Jun 25 19:31:06 same in .oz Jun 25 19:31:11 easier to fight the beast you know Jun 25 19:31:14 =) Jun 25 19:32:29 what's that uclibc? stripped glibc? thing is, i've changed my local.conf to use it without really undestanding what it's for. Jun 25 19:32:58 thejapa, your still doing SoC arnt you? Jun 25 19:33:36 sort of. i'm doing almost zero progress unfortunately Jun 25 19:33:52 then i'd stick to not using uclibc Jun 25 19:34:06 it's much knowledge to grasp at the same time. Jun 25 19:34:35 glibc is supported across everything Jun 25 19:34:47 uclibc has places its not supported Jun 25 19:35:09 emte: hmm, nice to know. it looks like that sort of advice that saves you from tons of headaches. Jun 25 19:35:39 if you have a working build system, maybe its time to move that progress meter :) Jun 25 19:36:48 it will be nice to see some new stuff Jun 25 19:37:25 yep. programming for linux isn't really that hard. the hard part for real is doing open source dev. hundreds of little pieces to understand and glue Jun 25 19:39:58 * emte shrugges Jun 25 19:40:11 one month ago I thought oe, bitbake, familiar... it was the just one thing called handhelds.org... hehe ignorance is bliss Jun 25 19:40:12 i am finding trying to write a kernel module hard Jun 25 19:44:58 emte: hehe, hope I get to kernel dev one day. :) Jun 25 19:50:35 is there a way to build a initramfs with OE/bitbake? Jun 25 19:59:26 goxboxlive, i suspect so Jun 25 20:02:05 linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99 isnt on oesources Jun 25 20:05:26 koen, Jun 25 20:05:29 mickey|fifa2006, Jun 25 20:05:32 just for information Jun 25 20:05:57 they don't run the site Jun 25 20:06:19 ggilbert, who does? Jun 25 20:06:26 i dont belive a request to cache that one has been issued either Jun 25 20:06:26 no one Jun 25 20:06:30 it's unmaintained Jun 25 20:06:43 aha, typical Jun 25 20:07:15 * emte chuckles at ggilbert Jun 25 20:08:52 No it doesnt work. Inintramfs cant be build with OE. We ned a initramfs to port over from kernel 12 -> 16 with our htc universal Jun 25 20:09:53 bitbake can do what ever you teach it to do ... Jun 25 20:10:32 oh, it's compilililililing opie-console Jun 25 20:10:42 yes i guess so, but you need skills to teach it. Jun 25 20:18:47 lol, anyone watching POR vs NED? Jun 25 20:20:19 i'm Jun 25 20:20:24 ridiculous Jun 25 20:20:31 huh Jun 25 20:20:38 the game is ridiculous, not me Jun 25 20:21:02 lol Jun 25 20:21:13 it's rugby? Jun 25 20:22:35 portugal team is playing completely like brazilian 3rd division Jun 25 20:23:27 NED is doing fair play at all too Jun 25 20:25:50 duh, i mean, NED is *not* doing fair play too. i got tense on such games Jun 25 20:27:14 this is truly a fun game to watch =) Just not for the football they are playing hehe Jun 25 20:35:01 * Harvy is away: pub Jun 25 20:49:40 ok, NED is back to OE. Jun 25 20:49:48 so... suppose i have something i want to build for my h2200. I must then understand bitbake, make a recipe for my program so it builds the deps and x-compiles my mumblejumble? Jun 25 20:50:04 OR i can do it all by hand. Jun 25 20:50:11 oh, which way do I take? Jun 25 20:50:30 thejapa: learn from the other bitbake recipes works best (IMHO) Jun 25 20:50:56 Find something of which the build steps match mumblejumble Jun 25 20:51:15 i'm having a problem building with the .oz354x branch. http://pastebin.ca/71515 it looks like a coding error; is there anything i can do? Jun 25 20:52:11 likewise: thanks. I shall call the internal version of the first thing I need to bitbake as "likewise mumblejumble" :) Jun 25 20:52:48 thejapa: you're welcome, but I think you run into copyright problems :-) Jun 25 20:53:11 thejapa: or trademarks... ;-) Jun 25 20:54:16 no way? someone named software likewise mumblejumble already? Jun 25 20:54:18 gee Jun 25 20:54:19 :) Jun 25 20:54:56 thejapa: well, we could race for the first bitbake recipe named so. Jun 25 20:55:12 oh Jun 25 20:55:35 i'll call it thejapa firstthing then. Jun 25 20:55:50 he Jun 25 20:56:40 Interrobang: it looks like an assembly coding error on qemu. Jun 25 20:59:37 Interrobang: local.conf advises to set ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = 1 or install qemu and use ASSUME_PROVIDED += "qemu-native" and skip it Jun 25 21:00:00 oops ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" Jun 25 21:01:19 KristofferZzZ: http://www.vanille.de/sources/linux-libc-headers-2.6.15.99.tar.bz2 Jun 25 21:02:06 * KerwoodDerby has restarted the whole bl**dy build. KerwoodDerby needs to spend more on UPSes... Film at 11... Jun 25 21:07:59 thejapa: do i have to delete all the previously compiled code that that binary locale setting? Jun 25 21:09:56 Interrobang: huh... not sure. you can use bitbake -cclean qemu-native. but I'm not really sure if it helps Jun 25 22:19:41 * Harvy is back Jun 25 22:20:02 oh nooooooes!!!!!1!!!!11!!!eleventy!!!!! Jun 25 22:20:47 wtb? Jun 25 22:21:42 thejapa: lilo brings nbews that our passwords are probably cracked. OMFG!!!! WTF!!1!!!11!!!! Jun 25 22:21:52 hehe Jun 25 22:23:12 maybe theyre being safe. anyway, i've changed mine Jun 25 22:23:37 oh Jun 25 22:23:46 bitbake broke on libxine Jun 25 22:23:58 no disk space available Jun 25 22:24:00 yikes Jun 25 22:27:01 CoreDump|afk: apparently someone pressed the reset button on ewi, but didn't check for it to come up, I've requested physical access tomorrow morning to fight with grub Jun 25 22:39:50 ~lart grub Jun 25 22:39:50 * ibot says "boot to the head" and knocks grub over Jun 26 00:39:48 * emte likes short shorts Jun 26 00:48:30 * KerwoodDerby has come to believe that a Commodore 64 would generate machine code faster than bitbake.... Jun 26 00:49:31 KerwoodDerby: As long as you're using a relatively recent ver. of bitbake (>2-3 months old), it should be fine.. Jun 26 00:51:01 NAbyss: I'm afraid that's not enough. Apparently I also need dual Xeons at 3.5 GHz to build OZ within 24 hrs Jun 26 00:51:14 KerwoodDerby: What're you building? Jun 26 00:51:19 OZ Jun 26 00:51:26 KerwoodDerby: Yeah, but what target? Jun 26 00:51:38 I'm building opie-image in about 12 hours w/ a P4 2.8.. Jun 26 00:52:02 I have thunderstorms marching across here every 12 hrs to scramble things just in case bit bake gets close to actually completing :( Jun 26 00:55:13 KerwoodDerby: are you using the .dev or .oz354x branch? Jun 26 00:56:38 yes Jun 26 00:56:50 sorry, the oz354x Jun 26 00:56:54 that's a multiple choice question not true/false Jun 26 00:56:57 lol k Jun 26 00:57:22 KerwoodDerby, you could use the method i mentioned to CoreDump|afk Jun 26 00:57:32 have you gotten past compiling the toolchain? if so, could i see your local.conf? Jun 26 00:57:58 build to task-bootstrap, tar -cf everything and use it as a start point everytime after Jun 26 00:57:59 I joke, but I really am dumbfounded at the slow progress. I've built entire kernels in less time Jun 26 00:58:14 your building far more than a kernel Jun 26 00:58:51 if you want slow, build gentoo Jun 26 00:59:02 thats a good way to waste a week of your life Jun 26 00:59:08 apparently I'm doing much more than compiling, too Jun 26 00:59:22 KerwoodDerby: You're building all the apps and such for your PDA.. if you're not worried about having the most recent, might be worth grabbing an OZ release instead Jun 26 01:00:13 KerwoodDerby: could i see your local.conf? i'm still having trouble getting my setup going Jun 26 01:02:05 I wish to build the kernal and opie, because it is reasonable for me to do so, being a terrier owner with intentions of adding apps and keeping them current. I installed the hentge feed because I wanted to see it work, but I still want my own copy. I have started the build from scratch for the 3rd time, and I'm simply getting a little impatient after four days Jun 26 01:03:09 KerwoodDerby: It shouldn't take any more than a day to compile with decent hardware (512mb of ram, and a 2GHz processor).. I do it in 11 hours on a 1.7GHz box with 2gb of ram. Jun 26 01:04:51 Sadly, I dont have decent hardware, but it seems to me that a 600 MHz ought to be able to generate a kernel and a suite of apps in far less than 12 hours. Jun 26 01:06:27 Interrobang: local.conf = http://rafb.net/paste/results/LZh0JB13.html Jun 26 01:06:32 thx Jun 26 01:10:30 is there some way to tell OE to only compile certain locale information? Jun 26 01:10:56 i keep wiping my tmp dir to prevent cross-contamination during confgi experiments Jun 26 01:12:04 I don't know. I asked whether the locale generation was normal and was told it was Jun 26 01:12:50 i'm sure it's the way thinsg are typically done, but is it all really necessary? can't you just compile your own lang info and skip the rest? Jun 26 01:13:26 Interrobang: I also edited distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf and removed any mention of ewi546 Jun 26 01:13:47 Interrobang: beats me Jun 26 01:13:56 won't that accept updates? doesn't monotone verify your local copy? Jun 26 01:14:04 err accept = affect Jun 26 01:14:08 damn it's hot Jun 26 01:15:03 i wish i had thunderstorms here, that's mean the sun wasn't shining Jun 26 01:15:06 well, the repeated connection attempts to ewi546 were slowing things even more and rather pointless at the moment Jun 26 01:16:18 lol, how about adding ewi to /etc/hosts as localhost and skip timeouts Jun 26 01:17:02 anyone here develops for opie? Jun 26 01:17:16 Interrobang: yeah, shoulda done that Jun 26 01:17:48 !!! i ctrl-c'ed glib trying to copy text out of konsole Jun 26 01:17:48 Interrobang: Dunno? Jun 26 01:18:09 Interrobang: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! Jun 26 01:24:35 Interrobang: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/KerwoodDerby/CatOhNoes.jpg Jun 26 01:24:39 trying KerwoodDerby's local.conf now Jun 26 01:25:06 lol, what is with ppl and cats when it comes to things going wrong? Jun 26 01:25:14 heh Jun 26 01:27:20 Interrobang: Incredibly, I ctrl-c'd out of the glibc generation becuase I though it had hung. Of course, it hadn't, but bitbang still found it necessary to generate ALL the locale files from the beginning. So I feel your pain... Jun 26 01:28:24 i bet you can edit the config options in the .bb file, but by the time i figure that out bitbake will finish Jun 26 01:28:40 hehe bitbake opie-image is failing building the rootfs Jun 26 01:29:22 as soon as i get a sd card i'm going to boot debian Jun 26 01:30:54 I have another 1/2 hour of thunderstorms before they pass, according to the radar. I'm hoping the internet connection and the power will stay up during that time. :P Jun 26 01:32:02 KerwoodDerby: where do you live, just curious... Jun 26 01:32:28 Central Maryland, USA Jun 26 01:32:53 I thought you lived in some island. incredible. Jun 26 01:33:42 It looks like we'll have them for the next 4 days. It's like we're in the South in springtime... o_O Jun 26 01:35:45 i'm in north jersey, it's pretty bad up here too Jun 26 01:45:20 cool, i added "127.0.0.1 ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl" to my /etc/hosts file and now OE gets 1 refused connection and moves on Jun 26 01:55:00 well, my time's up here. gotta go to bed. or else. good building, y'all Jun 26 01:58:37 arrggg died on the same spot with qemu! Jun 26 02:00:30 Interrobang: cleaned tmp first? Jun 26 02:03:39 of course Jun 26 02:05:21 trying it again with external qemu installation Jun 26 02:21:50 oh dear. qte has many patches Jun 26 02:22:02 and qte on opie wiki documentation has only 1 patch Jun 26 02:22:27 no wonder i can't build it manually. maybe i can use one bitbaked for native Jun 26 02:59:38 is gmp part of the OE toolchain? i want to know if i've gotten around my previous problem yet **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 26 02:59:56 2006