**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 28 02:59:57 2006 Jun 28 04:41:12 Interrobang go right ahead Jun 28 04:51:01 Interrobang, the modules will all soon be broken Jun 28 04:51:45 there is a new ... easier and more integrated structure being setup Jun 28 07:20:11 morning Jun 28 07:20:16 JustinP: nothing Jun 28 07:20:58 moin Jun 28 07:22:43 zecke: BBMASK="(one|two|three)" should be ok iirc - right? Jun 28 07:23:07 got me Jun 28 07:23:23 it is used as a reg exp, and this looks okay Jun 28 07:24:55 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/73768 - bbmask not work Jun 28 07:25:08 I will check with escaped ++ Jun 28 07:25:37 yes.. dfb++ crash bitbake Jun 28 07:25:58 sre_constants Jun 28 07:26:02 hmm Jun 28 07:26:14 s/dfb++/dfb\+\+ == working Jun 28 07:26:40 file a bug (better error reporting) Jun 28 07:26:47 will Jun 28 07:34:09 zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1124 Jun 28 07:38:53 thanks Jun 28 07:40:54 later Jun 28 07:48:07 morning Jun 28 07:48:27 hi XorA Jun 28 07:52:34 mornin Jun 28 07:57:19 kergoth, you there man Jun 28 08:07:00 hi koen LordVan rob_w|mis Jun 28 08:07:29 hey Jun 28 08:08:11 btw : i would suggest to have gtk_entry align to the right by default .. right now it aligns to the left .. Jun 28 08:11:09 Hmm... 26 seconds for udevsynthesize to run at boot... that's a little painful.. Jun 28 08:13:40 pb__: ping Jun 28 08:13:51 good morning all Jun 28 08:14:45 hello folks Jun 28 08:18:14 v8jlene: it used to be a lot worse Jun 28 08:22:50 hi hrw|work Jun 28 08:23:02 koen: Worse? Huh, that'd be unusable.. I was using an initial static /dev with udev but without udevsynthesize previously. I probably need to tune some kernel settings I suppose... my desktop only has about 300 dev entries while the little embedded box has over 700. Jun 28 08:25:55 feeding bitbake output into 'tee' make it hard to follow Jun 28 08:29:02 * LordVan wants a Z dev. with more memory & space (got SL5500G atm ;'() Jun 28 08:30:50 morning all Jun 28 08:32:45 hey Dirk Jun 28 08:33:11 hi Koen Jun 28 08:33:45 hi dirk Jun 28 08:34:19 hi Marcin Jun 28 08:34:42 XorA: hello Jun 28 08:39:12 morning Jun 28 08:39:27 hey CoreDump|home Jun 28 08:39:49 hi CoreDump|home Jun 28 08:41:04 openswan doesn't compile with gcc 4.1.1 Jun 28 08:41:18 can we please remove it from conf/machine/zaurus* ? Jun 28 08:41:28 go ahead Jun 28 08:41:41 it should be in distro not in machine Jun 28 08:43:26 heh Jun 28 08:44:06 of course somebody is going to argue that a machine config is the right place to put that stuff in Jun 28 08:44:51 sure Jun 28 08:45:16 but that 'somebody' has already forked OE, hasn't he? Jun 28 08:45:24 I think so yeah Jun 28 08:45:47 that doesn't stop somebody to complain about .dev changes =) Jun 28 08:45:57 sure Jun 28 08:46:04 and it doesn't stop me from ignoring those Jun 28 08:46:07 ;) Jun 28 08:46:07 =) Jun 28 08:46:20 ~praise angstrom Jun 28 08:46:24 All hail angstrom! Jun 28 08:50:36 pb_: I want to patch glib.m4 Jun 28 08:50:45 pb_: well glib-1.2.m4 Jun 28 08:51:00 CoreDump|home: gpe-bootsplash-e-theme also out Jun 28 08:51:28 hrw|work: good,the new bootsplash looks way better in any case Jun 28 08:51:59 XorA: go ahead Jun 28 08:52:20 pb_: http://pastebin.ca/73807 is the patch Jun 28 08:52:37 hrw|work: before you release you'll have to test spitz GPE images whether the touchscreen works Jun 28 08:52:52 XorA: hm, that doesn't look good. Does it actually work? Jun 28 08:53:01 there were some problems on oesf.org after I upgraded tslib.sh to the Akita version Jun 28 08:53:29 CoreDump|home: I will Jun 28 08:53:30 pb_: glib-config needs a module name to return the flags Jun 28 08:53:36 really? Jun 28 08:53:38 it never used to Jun 28 08:53:51 thanks, I'm not sure if it is a software or user problem Jun 28 08:54:01 pb_: I know, but the one we have in OE now doesnt give anything without glib as a module Jun 28 08:54:16 XorA: then it sounds like the one we have in OE now should be fixed Jun 28 08:54:21 I think it's a bug that it's behaving the way it is Jun 28 08:54:31 CoreDump|home: 1,237,217K bytes in 1985 files == 3.5.4x sources Jun 28 08:54:53 pb_: ok, I think the behaviour changed with the patches to make it use pkgconfig Jun 28 08:54:53 =) Jun 28 08:55:32 crazy that this compiles into 20-40Mb Jun 28 08:55:38 2.4 on tosa is .... .... .... shit Jun 28 08:56:14 morning all Jun 28 08:56:21 morning RP Jun 28 08:56:22 cp loop -> sd == kill Jun 28 08:56:27 hi RP Jun 28 08:56:38 do13_: how much is missing on tosa to move to 2.6? Jun 28 09:01:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc2ca1eca... 10/conf/machine/include/ (3 files): conf/machine/include/: remove openswan, do distro stuff in conf/distro Jun 28 09:02:16 pb_: yes problem is because glib-config is now pkg-config module, I guess if no module is given it should default to glib Jun 28 09:03:10 hey RP Jun 28 09:03:19 XorA: yeah Jun 28 09:03:58 pb_: damn my lack of sh coding skillz :-) Jun 28 09:04:06 hrw|work: ohci needs some tweaks, support for the second battery, touch needs to be synced with the lcd Jun 28 09:04:37 do13_: 2.4 is argh... awful Jun 28 09:04:41 hrw|work: agreed 2.4 is crap Jun 28 09:04:49 * hrw|work get used to 2.6 on c7x0 Jun 28 09:05:19 hrw|work: I played one week with 2.4, then started hacking on 2.6 Jun 28 09:07:59 longer then I did on c7x0 - had sharprom for <1h and flashed Oz Jun 28 09:09:18 hrw|work: same here Oz with 2.4 for one week Jun 28 09:10:05 We should think about switching poodle and tosa to 2.6. We're not going to get anywhere with 2.4 and 2.6 is probably better even if not feature complete Jun 28 09:15:49 RP: poodle use wm8731 so how much time could getting audio work take? Jun 28 09:15:55 year. we should ship 3.5.4.2 with 2.6 for poodle and tosa Jun 28 09:18:53 <__law__> do13, and collie :-) Jun 28 09:19:37 __law__: collie/2.6 is unusable and out-of-OE Jun 28 09:20:00 __law__: collie needs a lot of work Jun 28 09:20:25 building 3.5.4.1-feed automatically add sources to 3.5.4/sources/ now Jun 28 09:20:36 hrw|work: cool Jun 28 09:20:53 hrw|work: Did you tried collie/2.6 recently Jun 28 09:20:57 I did it by hand but reconfigured it Jun 28 09:21:05 we should have src_distribute_remote Jun 28 09:21:05 do13_: no - last time it wont boot Jun 28 09:21:37 hrw|work: It shouldn't be too difficult as the corgi code is very similar Jun 28 09:21:55 hrw|work: at least to get playback anyway Jun 28 09:24:29 if it can play mp3s and minesweeper most users are happy Jun 28 09:25:35 It can't yet but it shouldn't be diiffcult too d Jun 28 09:28:42 * RP back later Jun 28 09:28:56 <_law_> sd support is the problem or? Jun 28 09:29:58 do13_: what level of SD support does the info in the OZ wiki give us? Jun 28 09:30:09 do13_: card detect, maybe more? Jun 28 09:32:20 koen: switching vcc Jun 28 09:32:51 koen: it lacks the bits in the status register and the different clock settings Jun 28 09:33:18 it's a start Jun 28 09:33:26 koen: could you give me a rsync account on ewi? Jun 28 09:34:18 koen: I'll look into this if I found the time Jun 28 09:35:17 koen: these days I'am too busy (at work and home) Jun 28 09:35:45 CoreDump|home: i can't Jun 28 09:36:10 hmm, would make syncing the mirror a lot easier :) Jun 28 09:36:37 Is it possible to boot the experimental collie/2.6 stuff from CF/SD via altboot? Jun 28 09:36:45 CoreDump|home: I can rsync ewi<>you Jun 28 09:37:20 Laibsch: not really, you'd have to flash kernel 2.6 in any case Jun 28 09:37:31 Laibsch: but the rootfs can be elsewhere Jun 28 09:37:34 CoreDump|home: there was kexec-like module for 2.4 on oesf Jun 28 09:38:01 hrw|work: really? nice =) kexec support in altboot sucks heh Jun 28 09:38:46 hrw|work: re rsync: the would be nice indeed. please send an SSH key w/ password to oe (at) hentges (dot) net Jun 28 09:41:29 CoreDump|home: Yes, I forgot that altboot does not switch the kernel. Jun 28 09:41:43 CoreDump|home: sent Jun 28 10:07:05 hi guys :). If I wanted to build ash which has no *.bb file yet where would i find instructions to follow? Jun 28 10:25:01 morning Jun 28 10:27:39 hi Laibsch Jun 28 10:27:43 err lardman|work Jun 28 10:27:52 Moin CoreDump|home Jun 28 10:28:07 Moin anyway ;-) Jun 28 10:28:09 ;) Jun 28 10:28:39 hi CoreDump|home Jun 28 10:31:36 lindenle: I am only a user like you, but i think (http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/) and looking at other .bb files in "packages" is at the moment the best way. Jun 28 10:33:15 mr_nice_slacker1: cool thanks Jun 28 10:53:59 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfa770609... 10/packages/logrotate-script/logrotate-script_cvs.bb: logrotate-script: dropped Jun 28 10:54:04 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf475230d... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/ (gpe-bootsplash-theme-e.bb gpe-bootsplash-theme-opie.bb): dropped gpe-bootsplash-opie ge-bootsplash-e Jun 28 10:54:08 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * raa7ceba8... 10/packages/gemdropx/gemdropx-0.9/gemdropx.png: gemdropx: added forgotten icon Jun 28 10:54:12 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r201cd0d1... 10/packages/meta/meta-opie-all.bb: meta-opie-all: we dropped qpf-unifont Jun 28 10:54:13 koen|uni, konqueror embedded is still giving me those kde-config issues Jun 28 10:56:57 hi Marcos Jun 28 10:57:23 Hrw|work: morning! Jun 28 10:57:24 looks like I like to drop stuff Jun 28 10:59:21 hrw: so, I can just use pimconverter, no need to ask eiler? Jun 28 10:59:42 thejapa: you can Jun 28 10:59:45 k Jun 28 10:59:57 thejapa: move to #opie Jun 28 11:02:44 ken: stop using qt/e crap ;) Jun 28 11:03:03 koen|uni, :D any other suggestion for a good webbrowser then? Jun 28 11:03:34 Kristoffer: switch to an x based image and you'll get tons of browsers Jun 28 11:03:56 lynx, links, firefox, minimo, gpe-mini-browser, osb-browser, etc Jun 28 11:04:33 koen, hmm good idea, but still need to get konqueror fixed. I dont have kdelibs locally installed but it still complains about not finding kde-config Jun 28 11:04:56 no idea here Jun 28 11:05:06 thinking about forcing the configure script to just ignore to check for kde-config Jun 28 11:05:09 I tend to stay away from bitrotting qt/e crap Jun 28 11:05:14 hehe Jun 28 11:05:21 damn, I used a pleonasm Jun 28 11:10:21 hrw|work: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/06/23/1728205&tid=150 Jun 28 11:14:04 th Jun 28 11:14:05 x Jun 28 11:30:52 hrw|work: should we put that link on oe.org? Jun 28 11:33:47 would be good Jun 28 11:37:33 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r6952b3aa... 10/packages/glib-1.2/glib-1.2-1.2.10/glib-config-use-pkg-config: Jun 28 11:37:33 packages/glib-1.2/glib-1.2-1.2.10/glib-config-use-pkg-config : a rediff Jun 28 11:37:33 with a small change to allow behaviour that glib-1.2.m4 expects. Jun 28 11:37:33 Now if a module is not presented it defaults to glib. This is the behaviour Jun 28 11:37:33 glib-1.2.m4 expects and is the classic behaviour of glib-config. Jun 28 11:43:36 XorA, lol, thought you had fixed the kde-config issue at first glance Jun 28 11:44:39 Kristoffer: kde is all alien to me Jun 28 11:44:56 XorA, unfortunantly for me also.. Just cant understand why it worked awhile ago. Jun 28 11:45:22 do we have kde in OE@? Jun 28 11:45:38 XorA, it uses it to build konqueror, but not quite clear on how/why Jun 28 11:45:48 kergoth, you there yet man Jun 28 11:47:21 hrw|work: could you add a few words about the src-distribute-local thingie to http://www.openembedded.org/gpl-causing-problems-for-derivative-linux-distros ? Jun 28 11:47:53 later Jun 28 11:48:55 koen: ah, this is unknown to some? Jun 28 11:49:12 zecke: apparently it is Jun 28 11:49:29 koen: at ROAD we imported the source to the server and built the package then Jun 28 11:49:45 koen: we never downloaded stuff directly off the internet... anyway :) Jun 28 11:50:31 zecke: now the OE project can say: "it's on our frontpage, you stupid fuck, stop blaming us for your incompetence" Jun 28 11:50:38 maybe in kinder words Jun 28 11:51:42 lol Jun 28 11:51:58 will kergoth be our new customer support guy or what? Jun 28 11:58:26 What is the status of a collaboration between freifunk.net/OpenWRT on the one hand and OE on the other. Seems like a good fit to me. Has anybody ever approached you in this respect. Sven-Ola, the main dev seems to be considering a move to OE. Jun 28 11:58:56 But the comment on https://www.freifunk.net/magazin/technik_wirtschaft/freifunkfirmware seems to be a bit old, so it is unclear what the current status is. Jun 28 11:59:35 Laibsch: its in german ;( Jun 28 12:01:22 Yes. Basically, there is a citation from Sven-Ola that he is contemplating further directions for OpenWRT and that one possibility is moving to OE. Jun 28 12:01:22 Laibsch: kergoth added most of the WRT bits to OE at some point Jun 28 12:01:49 zecke: So it is already possible to build an WRT image with OE? Jun 28 12:02:06 Just got mine and I'd rather have some OE-based stuff on it if anything. Jun 28 12:02:57 Maybe someone wants to lobby him for OE. If I get a chance, I'll beat the ad drum roll, too. Jun 28 12:04:10 Laibsch: I think we can build package sof WRT Jun 28 12:04:13 Laibsch: but no images Jun 28 12:04:28 Laibsch: OE can build packages OpenWRT compatible Jun 28 12:04:31 Well, that is at least a start. Jun 28 12:04:35 hrw|work: Nice. Jun 28 12:04:41 I'll try it out. Jun 28 12:04:55 Laibsch: OE can build images for WRT54g(s) but you need serial cable as they lack polishing Jun 28 12:05:00 This is so great, another device with less software headaches. Jun 28 12:05:19 but I have openwrt on my wrt54gs Jun 28 12:05:34 serial cable? I have the GL but cannot see a serial jack. Jun 28 12:06:13 Laibsch: you need to solder it Jun 28 12:06:21 uh, oh Jun 28 12:06:25 hello #oe ! Jun 28 12:06:50 morsche magnet Jun 28 12:11:47 * v8jlene has wgt634u with openwrt Jun 28 12:13:01 good morning Jun 28 12:15:02 I developed one packaged under openwrt and it was rather painful compared to OE. I probably should get a wrt for development since my OE distro is targetted at routers at that make a good target. Jun 28 12:16:19 v8jlene: As I said, I got my WRT54GL yesterday. I'll be willing to test things for you from time to time if you want me to. Jun 28 12:17:32 Well, the reactions in #openwrt were not positive. I doubt, they'll be using OE any time soon ;-) The word "sucks" was echoed several times. Jun 28 12:17:50 hehe, let them fight :) Jun 28 12:19:35 Laibsch: You'll need to solder on a serial port first ;) Jun 28 12:20:41 Well, I won't do that, I guess ;-) But I can test ipk and try your image once you've got it. Jun 28 12:21:42 Laibsch: I'm not sure I'd be game to let anyone without a serial port near anything I do ;) Anyway, I don't have one at the moment so for now your on your own! Jun 28 12:23:12 hrw: i thought the gs had too little memory for openwrt. this is good news, I have one here at home. Jun 28 12:34:46 zecke: hi, I just thougt about integrating (http://thumbscript.com) on the simpad (I will do on SLACKpad). i have written them and i hope i have not to pay any money for using it. would be a cool way to use the joypad as keyboard :). what do you think about it? Jun 28 12:37:40 never heard of it Jun 28 12:37:56 zecke:now you have ;) Jun 28 12:38:34 mr_nice_slacker: using USB, interesting :) Jun 28 12:39:03 I will add it to the stack of things to look into :) Jun 28 12:39:23 thejapa: gs have more flash then g one Jun 28 12:43:47 zecke:it seems that they give free licenses verry easily (http://thumbscript.com/legal.html). hopfully i will get one. Jun 28 12:49:06 morning Jun 28 12:49:27 Q: Did google manage to 'upload' their survey application today? Jun 28 12:49:41 A: Wow, they did Jun 28 12:50:39 and you have a week to fill it in Jun 28 12:51:58 ouch Jun 28 12:52:14 having an efl++ in deploy/ipk make ipkg delete all ipkgs... Jun 28 12:52:32 makes* Jun 28 12:52:44 i guess we must report our progress to google too. but there is no form yet. Jun 28 12:57:39 "You need to submit the midterm survey" finally Jun 28 12:57:50 koen, you pushing much today? Jun 28 12:58:08 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r0c68cd9f... 10/packages/meta/jlime-opie.bb: Jun 28 12:58:08 /meta/jlime-opie: Addition of new jlime meta package Jun 28 12:58:08 * Addition of new jlime meta package, used opie-image as template. Jun 28 12:58:08 More changes to come later Jun 28 12:58:52 thejapa: In case of questions simply ask :) Jun 28 12:59:05 k Jun 28 13:00:19 ken_: not that I know off Jun 28 13:00:53 koen, just had some multiple heads Jun 28 13:01:14 I'm struggling with glibc staging Jun 28 13:01:19 Ah oki Jun 28 13:02:48 any euro prepaid cell geeks around? Jun 28 13:03:01 I am traveling to Munich then to northern Italy Jun 28 13:03:07 and my cell is unlocke now Jun 28 13:03:17 I would a good deal on a prepaid cell service Jun 28 13:03:49 no idea :( Jun 28 13:03:51 I use t-mobile in Germany and my office mate has O2 both prety cheap Jun 28 13:04:01 no clue about italy Jun 28 13:07:13 thanks Jun 28 13:14:28 hi mickeyl Jun 28 13:14:37 hey pb_ Jun 28 13:14:41 ~seen sirfred Jun 28 13:14:52 sirfred was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 20h 6m 22s ago, saying: 'koen: Thanks for your help.'. Jun 28 13:15:03 do you know whether there is some prefix/postfix necessary for scripts in /etc/apm/event.d/? Jun 28 13:15:15 hey mickeyl Jun 28 13:15:25 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rf229eef9... 10/packages/perl/perl-5.8.7/config.sh-sh3-linux: Jun 28 13:15:25 /perl/perl/5.8.7/config.sh-sh3-linux: Fixing sh4->sh3 typos Jun 28 13:15:25 * Fixes typos where sh4 was written instead of sh3 Jun 28 13:15:30 What am I doing wrong? I have no offer from google yet... Jun 28 13:15:44 zecke: it was sent via summer-admin Jun 28 13:16:01 zecke: go to your google soc homepage, the link should be there Jun 28 13:16:11 hi mickeyl Jun 28 13:16:21 koen: Filling it out :) Jun 28 13:23:34 koen: filled out the survey... well I need a spell checker Jun 28 13:30:09 kergoth, there? Jun 28 13:31:33 ~kill libtool Jun 28 13:31:35 * ibot shoots a magneto-ionized pseudoproton gun at libtool Jun 28 13:38:21 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rff4cd0be... 10/packages/opie-taskbar/ (4 files in 2 dirs): opie-taskbar: c7x0 w/ w100 acceleration needs a special suspend/resume script Jun 28 13:38:32 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7d3285c0... 10/packages/qte/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Jun 28 13:38:32 qte-2.3.10: update suspend-resume-hooks patch for w100 accelleration on c7x0. Jun 28 13:38:32 patch courtesy Manuel Teira - thanks! Jun 28 13:39:03 ibot: spell accelleration Jun 28 13:39:06 possible spellings for accelleration: acceleration accelerations accelerating acceleration's accelerator Jun 28 13:39:40 mickeyl: something new and interesting? Jun 28 13:40:15 hrw|work: according to sirfred the w100 driver should now survive suspend/resume properly. I'll test that asap Jun 28 13:42:26 btw... we really should 1.2.1 -> 1.2.2 now Jun 28 13:42:33 (opie, that is) Jun 28 13:42:51 zecke: found your script again? Jun 28 13:43:00 mickeyl: damn, not looked :} Jun 28 13:43:08 mickeyl: Saturday :) Jun 28 13:43:14 fair enough :) Jun 28 13:43:22 death march Jun 28 13:43:58 current broken queue: jack pivotinit microwindows minifo-modules drm shfs-utils poodle-kernels-2.4-embedix docbook-utils cpufreqd guile gkrellm dvbstream sdcc epdf e17-gpe-menu-convert fbui-utils elitaire twutils wlan-ng-modules device-mapper portaudio prism54-firmware xscreensaver loader spca5xx xerces-c sysklogd sparse hal xcompmgr rrdtool reiser4progs madwifi-modules openswan rp-pppoe evidence tin dfb++ mipv6 ntop asterisk Jun 28 13:44:06 world build? Jun 28 13:44:09 yep Jun 28 13:44:10 not bad so far Jun 28 13:44:24 hrw|work: I have a 'fix' for xerces-c (somewhere) Jun 28 13:44:25 please record and post to oe@hh.org when finished. I'll help to take a look at some files then Jun 28 13:45:13 mickeyl: doing another attempt to world build Jun 28 13:45:44 FYI, I grabbed the openembedded.info domain and pointed it at my OE documentation. Jun 28 13:45:53 mickeyl: I strongly suspect the efl++ ipk make OE/ipk/whatever delete *.ipk from deploy/ipk Jun 28 13:46:04 hrw|work: Are they things that don't work on dev? Jun 28 13:46:23 v8jlene: cool Jun 28 13:46:36 hrw|work: which kernel version does the world build use? Jun 28 13:46:36 koen: delete ? how thqt Jun 28 13:46:38 that even Jun 28 13:46:40 hey dirk Jun 28 13:46:42 v8jlene: http://www.openembedded.info/wiki/Main_Page ? Jun 28 13:46:46 hey mickeyl Jun 28 13:46:47 do13_: collie build Jun 28 13:47:20 zecke: Err, is that question? Jun 28 13:47:44 v8jlene: ah I have missed 'my' documentation Jun 28 13:48:31 v8jlene: I would really like to see ONE documentation :) Jun 28 13:48:37 zecke: Ah, I see... Jun 28 13:48:43 mickeyl: no idea, do_rootfs spills out tons of errors Jun 28 13:48:45 mickeyl: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/log.do_rootfs.16160 Jun 28 13:48:56 it seems something else is causing it... Jun 28 13:49:17 the cmdline was: rm /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/openzaurus/ -rf ; bitbake linux-openzaurus-2.6.17 bootstrap-image gpe-calendar gnumeric abiword-plugins evas-x11 Jun 28 13:49:24 v8jlene: but it looks like you have taken your time to write this documentation Jun 28 13:49:28 zecke: Yeah... where would that be and who will do it though? At the moment I don't think I know enough to be sure of anything... these site are just my local notes... Jun 28 13:50:00 v8jlene: koen and me have started writing docbook Jun 28 13:50:20 v8jlene: your BB Recipes and New Targets would fit perfectly (but all of us are overworked) Jun 28 13:50:24 ... Jun 28 13:51:59 Any good way to set a different cross-compiler to be used only for the kernel package? Jun 28 13:52:21 zecke: I could look at doing this in docbook... but I'm not sure of how accurate anything I do would be! Jun 28 13:52:46 v8jlene: I totally suck at writing Docu, so it will be good :) Jun 28 13:52:58 Kristoffer: there is a variable for that Jun 28 13:53:00 v8jlene: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.documentation Jun 28 13:53:09 Kristoffer: there was something Jun 28 13:53:27 opensimpad_2.4.25-vrs2-pxa1-jpm1.bb:KERNEL_CCSUFFIX = "-3.3.4" Jun 28 13:53:28 hrw|work, thanks for being so specific :P Jun 28 13:53:35 :D Jun 28 13:54:23 Kristoffer: I always forget the name :) Jun 28 13:59:51 I'll look at the documentation branch and think about doing some editing on it... (no promises!) Jun 28 14:11:36 v8jlene: thanks for the site, it'll come handy. :) Jun 28 14:18:58 hrw|work: :-P Jun 28 14:19:31 hrw|work: I don't understand why my builds have font size issues while your don't.....(I haven't tested the 3.5.4.1 release yet but your rcs were fine...) Jun 28 14:19:59 JustinP: what size issues you see? Jun 28 14:22:01 in my e images rxvt's font is so large the text doesn't display Jun 28 14:22:06 and some gpe progs as well Jun 28 14:22:31 about 50x50px per char I think Jun 28 14:22:35 JustinP: .Xdefaults Xft.dpi: 96 Jun 28 14:22:39 nothing I've tried config-wise fixes that Jun 28 14:22:41 nope Jun 28 14:22:43 already that way Jun 28 14:23:01 my .dev image displays fonts fine with that setting Jun 28 14:23:16 in GPE Jun 28 14:23:29 yeah, GPE is fine Jun 28 14:23:39 just e-image(-core) breaks Jun 28 14:23:50 and only my build, hrw's worked fine last I tried Jun 28 14:23:57 and yes, I have tried a new build Jun 28 14:24:28 JustinP: afraid I dont have time to dive into E :-) Jun 28 14:24:48 | arm-linux-libtool: link: warning: library `/home/hrw/devel/build/3541-feed/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/libXss.la' was moved. Jun 28 14:24:53 I love them Jun 28 14:24:59 well...it's not e's fault.....it works in hrw's e builds, but not mine Jun 28 14:27:39 hrw|work: still just e-image-core, huh? That's another difference that worries me... Jun 28 14:29:10 JustinP: gcc fails for me on ewi Jun 28 14:29:28 JustinP: but I got one from 3.5.4 feed to complete e-image Jun 28 14:31:11 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra8b5b8b9... 10/packages/dpkg/ (dpkg.inc dpkg_1.10.28.bb dpkg_1.13.4.bb files/autofoo.patch): dpkg:dropped - not fetchable Jun 28 14:31:15 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc925ecbb... 10/packages/meta/meta-maemo.bb: another bit of maemo removed Jun 28 14:31:33 but gcc shouldn't fail....that's the fthing.... Jun 28 14:44:59 Good evening. Jun 28 14:45:36 hey sirfred Jun 28 14:45:51 koen: Hello. Jun 28 14:45:57 hi sirfred Jun 28 14:46:36 hrw|work: hi Jun 28 14:46:45 Tried to get the kernel to compile with 3.4.3 but I get a "dependecy virtual/sh3-linux-gcc-3.4.3 (for linux-jlime-sh3) not satisfied Jun 28 14:46:50 do I need to add a PREFERRED_PROVIDERS = virtual/${TARGET-PREFIX}gcc-3.4.3:gcc-cross-3.4.3? Jun 28 14:47:33 any idea? Jun 28 14:49:16 maybe Jun 28 14:49:45 zecke, was thinking about adding a preferred provider target_prefixgcc-3.4.3:gcc-cross-3.4.3 Jun 28 14:49:50 then setting preferred version Jun 28 14:49:54 to 3.4.3 Jun 28 14:50:19 would that work? Jun 28 14:50:27 it could Jun 28 14:50:47 will give it a try then, is it likely to affect other packages...? Jun 28 14:51:58 unlikely Jun 28 14:52:11 * zecke needs to work on the error reporting capabilities of bitbake... Jun 28 14:52:12 roger, ill give it a go then and report back when I see some results Jun 28 14:57:11 104 fails until now Jun 28 14:57:47 hrw|work, are you using any system to keep track of failing builds? Jun 28 14:57:59 IRC :) Jun 28 14:58:07 Kristoffer: OE tinderbox? Jun 28 14:58:09 haha Jun 28 14:58:15 hrw|work, ah oki Jun 28 14:58:26 what haha? Jun 28 14:58:39 tracking via IRC Jun 28 14:58:39 koen, IRC :) Jun 28 14:59:12 zecke: how much work would it be to move the tinderbox to a host which we can point tinderbox.oe.org to? Jun 28 14:59:28 koen: finding a host Jun 28 15:01:37 zecke getting a "ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack" Jun 28 15:02:51 Kristoffer: then you did something wrong :) (and yes bitbake sucks in error reporting) Jun 28 15:03:09 zecke, :D the general idea is this, just so im clear on the logic. Jun 28 15:03:31 set preferred_provider sh3-linux-gcc-3.4.3 : gcc-cross-3.4.3 Jun 28 15:03:45 set preferred_version gcc-cross-3.4.3 = "3.4.3" Jun 28 15:03:58 thats it.. Jun 28 15:04:04 zecke: let oe.org be that host? it already has postgres Jun 28 15:05:05 pref. version can be skipped... Jun 28 15:05:20 zecke, howso?.. Im after the 3.4.3 Jun 28 15:05:39 good question, I have no idea what could be wrong Jun 28 15:05:41 Anyone knows what 'kernel-module-firmware-class' is? Is it a module in the 2.6.16-hh2 kernel? Jun 28 15:05:49 and not the muse to look into it :( Jun 28 15:06:02 oki, just answer some quick questions then Jun 28 15:06:06 booting into windoze, later guys :) Jun 28 15:06:08 goxboxlive: that module allows the kernel to load firmwares Jun 28 15:06:13 :) Jun 28 15:06:19 goxboxlive: it's generallyy found in 2.6 kernels Jun 28 15:06:21 Kristoffer: others will help :) Jun 28 15:06:22 hey pH5 Jun 28 15:06:32 koen, your my next victim :) Jun 28 15:06:38 hi everyone Jun 28 15:06:42 or whos the best on bitbake stuff? Jun 28 15:07:02 * chouimat is away: stuff Jun 28 15:07:51 Big Doh, the error seemed to be because i forgot to put a " at the end of a line. Jun 28 15:08:55 koen: I see, i have looked for it in the 'make xconfig' Do you know in wich section it is? My bootstrap-image is failing because it can not sattisfy the following depedensies for task-bootstrap.. Jun 28 15:13:50 koen: Forget it, the kernel compiling is making the firmware-class module. Jun 28 15:13:53 hrw|work: ewi might be gone real soon(tm) Jun 28 15:14:11 hrw|work: some idiot at nslu2-linux.org made a dns alias to it without asking.... Jun 28 15:14:23 fsck - kill him Jun 28 15:20:44 * koen goes out to do some damage control Jun 28 15:24:18 koen: that the uni being a bit harsh? Jun 28 15:24:27 yes Jun 28 15:24:50 network access will be gone and and the machine will be seized temporarely Jun 28 15:25:17 koen: but anyone can set any dns shite for any address, thats terribly harsh Jun 28 15:25:25 indeed Jun 28 15:25:35 but that's what the contract says Jun 28 15:25:50 :-( Jun 28 15:25:56 and they can argue that nslu2 is using OE, so it was with my consent Jun 28 15:26:26 fortunately my name isn't on the contract (hence the trouble getting access last week) Jun 28 15:27:06 koen: so ewi dies, and a week later is reborn as koensbaby Jun 28 15:27:13 heh Jun 28 15:27:23 unfortunately not Jun 28 15:27:23 this is strange. Jun 28 15:27:41 how do they expect you to prevent every person on the internet from making a cname to ewi? Jun 28 15:28:02 koen: so why does the uni care if someone points a DNS entry at ewi? Jun 28 15:28:12 cbrake: it's their IP space Jun 28 15:28:40 cbrake: every 130.89 address can only contain a dns entry for *.utwente.nl Jun 28 15:28:51 ftp.nl.debian and 3 or 4 other exceptions Jun 28 15:29:20 koen: was it an A record, or a cname? Jun 28 15:29:39 so ftp.nl.debian.org can be DOS'd quite easilly then Jun 28 15:29:46 wierd Jun 28 15:29:51 xora: apparently Jun 28 15:30:14 koen: IC, so they want their name used in URLS Jun 28 15:30:27 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc8832bbf... 10/packages/libaal/libaal_1.0.4.bb: libaal: fixed SRC_URI Jun 28 15:30:30 * raduga exports a few non-idiot admins to utwente Jun 28 15:30:31 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r05e794aa... 10/packages/reiser4progs/reiser4progs_1.0.4.bb: reiser4progs: fixed SRC_URI Jun 28 15:30:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r251023c7... 10/packages/libaal/libaal_1.0.4.bb: libaal: fixed SRC_URI Jun 28 15:30:37 cbrake: yes Jun 28 15:30:41 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r15414fb4... 10/packages/reiser4progs/reiser4progs_1.0.4.bb: reiser4progs: fixed SRC_URI Jun 28 15:30:54 cbrake: we had a lot of trouble with warez sites pointing to campus IPs Jun 28 15:31:17 nslu2 is warez? Jun 28 15:31:32 raduga: doesn't matter Jun 28 15:31:33 koen: yeah, stickly situation :-\ Jun 28 15:31:36 koen: :( Jun 28 15:31:45 koen: i'm sorry Jun 28 15:31:52 you get 1 warning and some time to fix it, though Jun 28 15:32:03 but as I said, it's not my name on the contract Jun 28 15:32:10 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r204788bf... 10/packages/reiser4progs/reiser4progs_1.0.4.bb: reiser4progs: fixed SRC_URI for sure Jun 28 15:32:14 so I hope it gets fixed in time Jun 28 15:32:14 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r857d29a4... 10/packages/reiser4progs/reiser4progs_1.0.4.bb: reiser4progs: fixed SRC_URI for sure Jun 28 15:32:36 do you know the person who's name is on the contract? Jun 28 15:32:48 I know the head of department Jun 28 15:32:59 and I sent a mail to him 10 minutes ago Jun 28 15:33:04 and have the nslu2 DNS people been contacted? Jun 28 15:33:08 koen: *sigh* Jun 28 15:33:17 I sent rwithby a mail Jun 28 15:33:24 I don't know who controls dns Jun 28 15:33:27 koen: it seems there should be some allowance for "honest mistake" Jun 28 15:33:36 I certainly hope so Jun 28 15:33:37 vs "evilwarez" Jun 28 15:33:48 GPL GPL2 GPLv2 GPL-2.... argh Jun 28 15:33:54 koen: thank you Jun 28 15:34:04 it helps that I was on holiday when it happened Jun 28 15:37:45 Hello. Simple question: how to make oe use non-default version of gcc? Where to set it? Jun 28 15:38:07 define non-default Jun 28 15:38:14 gcc 1.2? egcs? Jun 28 15:38:32 I have 4.x as a defualt on my box Jun 28 15:38:38 and I want to use 3.4x Jun 28 15:39:57 oe uses 'gcc' to build the native and initial tools Jun 28 15:39:58 what is the RDEPENDS var for in a .bb file? how do i get the packages listed therein to compile? Jun 28 15:39:58 ~change 300 eur to pln Jun 28 15:40:10 300.00 Euro (EUR) makes 1,217.99 Zloty (PLN) (from http://www.xe.com/) Jun 28 15:40:12 so use your distro's preferred way to point gcc to 3.x Jun 28 15:40:48 Interrobang: those are Runtime DEPENDencieS Jun 28 15:40:59 Interrobang: and OE will build those by default Jun 28 15:41:00 koen: ok, thanks Jun 28 15:41:26 koen: i tried building a package and doesn't seem to have built those Jun 28 15:41:39 'bitbake ' ? Jun 28 15:42:11 OE in org.oe.dev does that by default of course Jun 28 15:42:21 no idea what all those funky branches do ;) Jun 28 15:42:36 i'm trying ot build an image file and i don't want to go through building all of the packages and their dependencies manually. is there a setting i could have accidentally enabled to skip them? Jun 28 15:42:39 * koen -> food Jun 28 15:42:48 koen, need a tricky question answerd first :D Jun 28 15:43:05 doh Jun 28 15:43:07 Interrobang: ? Jun 28 15:43:26 Interrobang: if you want to build opie-image you need to 'bitbake opie-image' etc Jun 28 15:43:27 xfce-image Jun 28 15:43:43 then 'bitbake xfce-image' Jun 28 15:43:51 simple Jun 28 15:44:04 i did, but at the end it said xfwm4-mcs-plugins xfce-utils-mcs-plugins xfce4-panel-mcs-plugins xfdesktop-mcs-plugins were unsatisfied Jun 28 15:44:38 then check where they are defined, what is broken and fix it? Jun 28 15:44:58 Interrobang: there was some bugs reported about xfce. some got comments Jun 28 15:45:20 would those bugs be listed in OZ's or OE's bugtracker? Jun 28 15:46:54 there is no such thing as OZ bugtracker Jun 28 15:48:17 hello all Jun 28 15:49:25 do13: the patch tosa-linux-gnueabi/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r38/linux-2.6.16/patches/tosa-power-r15.patch is against linux-2.6.17 directory and does not apply (.dev branch) Jun 28 15:50:21 cu Jun 28 16:01:59 Hello all. Bitbaking bootstrap-image of angstrom I am receiving the following error: | ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for task-bootstrap: Jun 28 16:02:02 | kernel-module-firmware-class Jun 28 16:02:29 After a some unsatisfied recommendation for modules. Any ideas what could cause that? Jun 28 16:03:25 not i Jun 28 16:03:47 you could try to wake up koen Jun 28 16:04:06 dunno if anyone is awake in #angstrom either tho Jun 28 16:05:06 emte: thanks. I will ask him when I catch him awake. :) Jun 28 16:06:48 sounds like you should either adjust your kernel defconfig or remove that dependency Jun 28 16:06:49 if i modify a .bb file in my local oe branch, what will happen to it next i update? (given there's an update to that file) Jun 28 16:07:16 monotone will hate you forever Jun 28 16:07:19 :) Jun 28 16:07:31 Interrobang: you will get a conflict message or a merge on update Jun 28 16:07:45 wll it allow you to replace the file? Jun 28 16:07:48 mickeyl: there are some 20 dependencies not being met. Jun 28 16:07:59 *will Jun 28 16:08:01 you should really use a parallel dir Jun 28 16:08:13 if you want to keep custom stuff Jun 28 16:08:15 mickeyl: but two last two are curious: pciutils and usbutils] Jun 28 16:08:46 mickeyl: I am using plain angstrom configuration for the pxa270 Jun 28 16:08:48 there should be a few examples on the wiki of using parallel overrides Jun 28 16:10:36 emte: are the words "parallel" and "override" the words to look for? Jun 28 16:11:16 you need to mt revert or merge. Jun 28 16:12:47 Interrobang, not sure, my setup is very old that has overrides Jun 28 16:13:43 i think you are looking for bitbake COLLECTIONS Jun 28 16:13:50 take a look into the bitbake manual Jun 28 16:13:53 http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html Jun 28 16:15:02 poli: remove the dependencies you don't care about and rebuild task-bootstrap. after that, rebuild *-image. Jun 28 16:16:57 mickeyl: Hello. Jun 28 16:17:20 yup collections is it Jun 28 16:17:44 mickeyl: Do you know the reason konqueror-embedded is not included in opie-image? Jun 28 16:18:47 no specific reason, no Jun 28 16:20:37 hmm, i have a headache. going out for a while Jun 28 16:23:17 what is the correct way to submit new or updated packages to oe..bugs.openembedded.org or mailing list? Jun 28 16:23:58 bugtracker pelase Jun 28 16:23:59 please, even Jun 28 16:25:56 mickey|bbl: thanks Jun 28 16:49:56 * chouimat is back. Jun 28 17:34:22 There are seomthing strange about the acx-firmware. It installs when i am using the 2.6.12 kernel, but not with the 2.6.16. Anyone knows why? Where should i define my machine type to install the firmware besides the machine.conf? Jun 28 17:41:06 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rb6fd5d15... 10/packages/ctorrent/ (ctorrent.inc ctorrent_1.3.4.bb files/extended_ctorrent.diff): ctorrent: updated with the latest patches from www.rahul.net Jun 28 18:18:54 what is the mt diff incantation to diff my version with an older revision (and how do I get the rev number of this revision. as in CIA it ends in ...) Jun 28 18:20:02 I use http://www.openembedded.org/aggregator/sources/1 and its rss feed Jun 28 18:20:49 eFfeM: monotone diff -r1 -r2 ? Jun 28 18:23:15 koen, the aggregator link was enough, it allows retrieving the diffs that make the delta Jun 28 18:32:12 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r5aee3e1f... 10/packages/meta/e-image.bb: e-image: remove gaim and sylpheed due to dependenncy problems Jun 28 18:32:47 eFfeM: mtn automate is your friend. You can get parent revs and all that way Jun 28 18:32:49 JustinP: what kind of problems? Jun 28 18:34:00 zecke: basically building an e-image doesn't build gaim ans sylpheed. Probably I could just add them to DEPENDS, but I was being lazy for now.... Jun 28 18:34:04 JustinP: yeah, still learning... Jun 28 18:40:02 JustinP: fair enought Jun 28 18:40:02 enough Jun 28 18:53:43 hm; got this error when starting a prog: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: no version information available Jun 28 18:53:48 what does it need? Jun 28 18:54:13 i have this: Jun 28 18:54:14 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 17 1999 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 -> libstdc++.so.6.0.8 Jun 28 18:54:14 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 845304 Jun 20 12:45 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8 Jun 28 19:08:40 ~mornings Jun 28 19:08:43 Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) Jun 28 19:10:47 kergoth: hey Jun 28 19:14:11 hey, Crofton here Jun 28 19:14:45 anyone have a feel for how bad it is to build a boostrap-image with a kernel based off 2.6.12 Jun 28 19:15:03 then switch the running kernel to one based off 2.6.16 Jun 28 19:15:16 I see an executable die saying "killed" Jun 28 19:15:28 I am about to nuke tmp ans restart Jun 28 19:16:19 killed? thats usually how it looks when the kernel kills you due to an out of memory condition or something :) Jun 28 19:16:26 hmmm Jun 28 19:16:36 this might be a possibilty also Jun 28 19:16:59 he saif he had swap Jun 28 19:17:05 but now he is denying this .... Jun 28 19:17:10 hehe Jun 28 19:17:25 now he is bitching about the unhelpful error message Jun 28 19:17:40 groaning is occuring Jun 28 19:17:53 the kernel kills you. if its killing you, it isnt going to be nice about it. Jun 28 19:17:56 :P Jun 28 19:18:02 I think Jasuris is off to lart the kernl guy :) Jun 28 19:18:25 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r89e400b6... 10/site/ (arm-linux armeb-linux armeb-linux-uclibc): site: add tests to make lzo compile w/ gcc 4.1.1 - closes #1099 Jun 28 19:18:49 know much ts-7200 boards? Jun 28 19:18:52 about Jun 28 19:19:22 that is what they have now, but they claim they will get a TI davinci board Jun 28 19:20:42 woglinde: hoo Jun 28 19:20:49 jo zecke Jun 28 19:21:57 http://pastebin.ca/74204 Jun 28 19:22:03 I am trying to hand edit a patch Jun 28 19:22:07 and this one fails Jun 28 19:22:17 clues? Jun 28 19:23:26 hi kergoth Jun 28 19:24:16 hi pb Jun 28 19:24:36 jasuris: yes? the machine number changed?! Jun 28 19:24:43 hey Jun 28 19:24:48 yeah Jun 28 19:24:56 but I am hacking a patch Jun 28 19:25:12 I don't know if they are doing the "right"thing Jun 28 19:25:23 just trying to make kerel/borad work Jun 28 19:25:26 :) Jun 28 19:26:32 there i suspicaion the board may not have the right id in the booloader Jun 28 19:27:19 I think I screwed up the patch Jun 28 19:32:27 hi woglinde Jun 28 19:35:46 woglinde:hi, do you have some time? zecke told me to ask you about how to boot his kernel with bootldr - i only get a unrecognized kernel image. thx Jun 28 19:36:52 mr_nice where is the problem? Jun 28 19:36:57 what did you do? Jun 28 19:37:09 woglinde: we want to do load ram and jump to the address Jun 28 19:37:17 woglinde: we just need your README file :) Jun 28 19:37:46 zecke hehe Jun 28 19:37:56 you mean I should put in the wiki somewhere Jun 28 19:38:22 load ram 0xC0008000 Jun 28 19:38:30 boot addr 0xC0008000 0 Jun 28 19:38:37 thats the magic Jun 28 19:39:12 woglinde: where the kernel must be( on which device)? At the moment it is on the cf Jun 28 19:39:24 woglinde: you could try to sell services based on this README Jun 28 19:39:36 mr_nice_slacker: load ram will load it via zmodem Jun 28 19:39:47 ymodem Jun 28 19:39:50 actual Jun 28 19:40:15 zmodem? well, ... Jun 28 19:40:20 minicom Jun 28 19:40:49 koen: http://ssel.vub.ac.be/ssel/internal:fmdiff Jun 28 19:42:26 woglinde: the kernel must be local and will be loded to the SIMpad via the serial? how can i tell the load fuktion how to find my local kernel? Jun 28 19:42:52 mr_nice_slacker: you need to start the upload from within your terminal Jun 28 19:43:04 mr_nice_slacker: e.g. 'STRG'+A+S Jun 28 19:43:10 mr_nice_slacker: and then select it :) Jun 28 19:43:23 zecke no he mean to use the cf card Jun 28 19:43:45 no I mean how to use minicom to upload it Jun 28 19:43:54 dont know maybe pb knows how to load a kernel from cf card with the bootloader Jun 28 19:45:34 well z or y modem? was it a typing error or is it ymodem? Jun 28 19:45:44 ymodem Jun 28 19:45:53 the bootloader use ymodem Jun 28 19:46:02 bootldr can do both Jun 28 19:46:05 but there are zmodem and ymodem protocol Jun 28 19:46:29 zecke is the onlyone I know who has the sourcecode Jun 28 19:46:59 woglinde: no not the only one Jun 28 19:47:51 zecke: the bootldr can't do zmodem, only y and x Jun 28 19:47:59 damn Jun 28 19:48:08 I had a 50:50 chanche on x vs. z Jun 28 19:48:13 hehe Jun 28 19:48:16 I suck Jun 28 19:48:16 zecke you lost Jun 28 19:48:19 yes Jun 28 19:48:54 a right pb is the other one who has the source Jun 28 19:49:15 woglinde: anyone who can change into my hh.org dir (anyone) can get it Jun 28 19:49:27 * pb__ go to pub now Jun 28 19:49:28 later all Jun 28 19:49:31 later Jun 28 19:49:35 pb bye Jun 28 19:49:56 woglinde: there was no soccer tonite? Jun 28 19:50:04 zecke right Jun 28 19:50:08 next on friday Jun 28 19:50:16 woglinde: who is playing? Jun 28 19:50:20 just kidding Jun 28 19:50:23 woglinde:ok get a ACK i think it will take a while Jun 28 19:50:30 thx Jun 28 19:50:32 mr_nice right Jun 28 19:52:26 zecke:are the uclibc kernel patches in your kernel version? actualy i have linked against glibc - the kernel is quite huge ~3mb. Jun 28 19:53:01 mr_nice_slacker: Luckily the kernel does not need a libc Jun 28 19:53:08 the kernel has nothing to do with glibc or uclibc Jun 28 19:53:09 mr_nice_slacker: is has its own system calls Jun 28 19:53:32 mr_nice_slacker: High on my todo are: kexec and USBClient Jun 28 19:53:33 mr_nice you have to much compiled in instead of modules Jun 28 19:53:48 a normal kernel is about 1 meg Jun 28 19:53:58 mr_nice_slacker: and once again, this 2.6.17 is not as complete as my old 2.6.0 and 2.6.10 kernels Jun 28 19:54:20 thx Jun 28 19:55:16 lol Jun 28 19:55:18 http://freshmeat.net/projects/vbs-obfus/?branch_id=46100&release_id=230490 Jun 28 19:55:34 i didn't know.do you know what the uclibc kernel patches for? Jun 28 19:56:45 any bitbake guru around? Jun 28 19:56:58 zecke is one Jun 28 19:57:12 zecke :D still same issue, cant figure this out Jun 28 19:57:38 Kristoffer: I'm collapsing under the work load ... :} Jun 28 20:01:14 zecke, hehe, wont bother you with it then.. :) Jun 28 20:02:12 mr_nice waht uclibc kernel_pachtes? Jun 28 20:02:27 mr_nice maybee you meant uclinux? Jun 28 20:02:54 Kristoffer: well, I can just give some hints Jun 28 20:03:03 Kristoffer: you have used KERNEL_CCSUFFIX? Jun 28 20:03:25 Kristoffer: maybe look into kernel.bbclass and see what it adds to DEPENDS Jun 28 20:03:56 zecke, yeppers. But the thing is that it logically lacks the 3.4.3 gcc, and I dont want to add it locally to my system, but instead let OE build gcc-3.4.3 before building the kernel package Jun 28 20:04:18 the basic idea is having 2 gccs, one for the kernel and one for everything else Jun 28 20:05:07 Kristoffer: what is it adding to depends? Jun 28 20:06:13 virtual/${TARGETprefix}depmod-..., virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc... Jun 28 20:06:18 kernel_ccsuffix Jun 28 20:06:31 update modules Jun 28 20:07:43 okay :) Jun 28 20:07:43 Kristoffer: PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-3.4.3:the-gcc" Jun 28 20:07:43 Kristoffer: is doing what? Jun 28 20:08:04 sorry enough time spent on irc :( Jun 28 20:08:16 you might be hit by another bibake bug Jun 28 20:14:13 :( too bad Jun 28 20:14:29 must be some way to do it though, feels like a logical error somewhere Jun 28 20:16:02 Kristoffer: Saturday :) Jun 28 20:16:13 or 'next' month what ever comes sooner Jun 28 20:16:37 later :) Jun 28 20:17:26 zecke, hehe, np cya Jun 28 20:17:32 :} Jun 28 20:17:43 it always breaks when one has no time to fix it up Jun 28 20:18:47 yeah, but its a good chance im doing something wrong also Jun 28 20:20:27 Kristoffer: show the PREFERRED_PROVIDER again and the error of bitbake Jun 28 20:24:46 PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc-3.4.3:the-gcc" Jun 28 20:24:49 dependency virtual/sh3-linux-gcc-3.4.3 (for linux-jlime-sh3) not satisfied Jun 28 20:24:53 Ive also set a PREFERRED_VERSION_the-gcc = "3.4.3" Jun 28 20:25:05 it shouldnt be ${TARGET_PREFIX}-gcc-3.4.3:the-gcc right? Jun 28 20:25:29 yes Jun 28 20:25:41 I fear that selecting by version got broken and went unnoticed Jun 28 20:28:17 _lpotter: hey, warwick answered. What does this mean? Jun 28 20:28:33 just checked tinderbox, I think ewi-OZ-3.5.4.1-feed is running havoc Jun 28 20:28:48 not that I am on that version, but thought I'd mention it anyway Jun 28 20:29:32 hello everyone... Jun 28 20:29:42 hi ixoth Jun 28 20:29:51 eFfeM: maybe this rm_work killed bitbake Jun 28 20:30:04 anyone have successfully used qemu-arm-native to generate locales on amd64? Jun 28 20:30:14 hi eFfeM Jun 28 20:30:20 zecke, okidoki Jun 28 20:30:40 later Jun 28 20:30:56 zecke: I don't know I am just the messenger (actually wanted to check if my openslug fix passed on remotely) Jun 28 20:31:04 zecke: cu Jun 28 20:31:05 eFfeM: ah :) Jun 28 20:31:26 zecke: qtopia4 gtl = vapourware Jun 28 20:31:30 gpl* Jun 28 20:31:37 eFfeM: another issue: this bitbake -k confuses the tinderclient Jun 28 20:31:39 koen: psst Jun 28 20:32:07 koen: I just wonder what "The community gets always considered" means Jun 28 20:32:23 they have a picture of you on their desk Jun 28 20:32:38 hehe Jun 28 20:32:47 zecke: I'm still not that good with bitbake/monotone/svn/tinder/... stuff Jun 28 20:33:11 zecke: how to download your 2.6.0 and 2.6.10 kernels? in the git there are only above 2.6.11 Jun 28 20:33:35 mr_nice_slacker1: too late, these patches might be there, they might not be there Jun 28 20:33:36 'night all Jun 28 20:33:41 night koen Jun 28 20:33:51 fast koen has gone ... Jun 28 20:41:00 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r451e0728... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages.bb: removed memtester; it builds locally but fails on the autobuild Jun 28 20:45:19 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * re4bf9891... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jun 28 20:45:19 /conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf: Addition of seperate kernel compile Jun 28 20:45:19 * Sets 3.4.3 as the default kernel compiler Jun 28 20:45:19 /linux/linux-jlime-sh3_2.6.16.20 : Addition of seperate kernel compile Jun 28 20:45:19 * Adds CC suffix to -3.4.3 so that gcc-3.4.3 will handle it Jun 28 20:45:20 Note currently, broken due to bitbake but change until working Jun 28 21:05:27 zecke: it means that I am in their face Jun 28 21:14:46 goodnight everyone... Jun 28 21:14:52 nite Jun 28 21:38:17 RP: around? Jun 28 21:40:14 Heya, everyone. Jun 28 21:40:37 Still fighting with bitbake... Jun 28 21:41:16 I got up-to "Start building" step... (while skipping "updating OE" -- I have slow line and slightly outdated sw is okay with me...) Jun 28 21:41:52 ...however I got lots of errors like Jun 28 21:41:53 pavel@amd:/data/bitbake$ bitbake nano Jun 28 21:41:53 NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available. Install it to increase performance. Jun 28 21:41:53 NOTE: Using cache in '/data/bitbake/tmp/cache' Jun 28 21:41:54 ERROR: /data/bitbake/org.openembedded.dev/packages/aalib/aalib_1.4rc5.bb Jun 28 21:41:54 is not a BitBake file while parsing /data/bitbake/org.openembedded.dev/packages/aalib/aalib_1.4rc5.bb Jun 28 21:42:01 ...and then it fails for me. Any ideas? Jun 28 21:42:44 pavelm, what bitbake version are you using/ Jun 28 21:43:09 pavel@amd:/data/bitbake$ bitbake --version Jun 28 21:43:11 BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.4.2, bitbake version 1.4.2 Jun 28 21:43:34 pavelm, does other stuff work, or basicly everything messed up? Jun 28 21:44:03 This was first thing I tried :-( Jun 28 21:44:09 I see koen mailed me asking to remove the tinderbox.nslu2-linux.org alias. Where has tinderbox moved to, or has the functionality been withdrawn? Jun 28 21:44:20 check the file its talking about and see wether or not its faulty Jun 28 21:44:31 hi Jun 28 21:44:37 CoreDump|home, hey Jun 28 21:44:39 it claims _all_ of them are faulty Jun 28 21:44:52 pavelm, open one up and see what it contains Jun 28 21:45:15 ken: it contains some reasonably-looking description Jun 28 21:45:30 DESCRIPTION = "Apache Portable Runtime (APR) companion library" Jun 28 21:45:31 SECTION = "libs" Jun 28 21:45:31 DEPENDS = "apr expat gdbm" Jun 28 21:45:33 ... Jun 28 21:45:49 oki, hmm whats the dir structure of your environment? where is bitbake/buildfolder/org.openembedded.dev... Jun 28 21:47:20 pavel@amd:/data/bitbake$ ls bitbake/ org.openembedded.dev/ build/ Jun 28 21:47:21 bitbake/: Jun 28 21:47:21 AUTHORS ChangeLog MANIFEST TODO bin classes conf contrib doc lib setup.py Jun 28 21:47:21 build/: Jun 28 21:47:21 conf Jun 28 21:47:21 org.openembedded.dev/: Jun 28 21:47:23 COPYING.MIT MT README classes conf contrib files packages site Jun 28 21:47:25 pavel@amd:/data/bitbake$ pwd Jun 28 21:47:49 ...where /data/ is my "big" partition and /data/bitbake is regular directory inside that. Jun 28 21:52:21 hmm looks alright Jun 28 21:52:27 youve exported the BBPATH? Jun 28 21:52:38 and the local.conf file is edited? Jun 28 22:10:16 * chouimat is away: FOOD Jun 28 22:13:04 * v8jlene is back Jun 28 22:24:33 sorry, my connection failed :-( Jun 28 22:25:01 after fixing permission problems, I can do monotone pull Jun 28 22:25:35 ...I had to decide which version I wanted after that... Jun 28 22:25:38 ...ended up doing monotone update -r 60da1de31387d235b99e99c95290e2f845e6d0b0 Jun 28 22:25:55 ...but bitbake still fails the same way :-( Jun 28 22:42:17 RP: ping Jun 29 02:03:50 * chouimat is away: Zzzzz Jun 29 02:04:19 night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 29 02:59:57 2006