**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 07 02:59:56 2006 Aug 07 07:26:22 mornng Aug 07 07:40:10 morning all Aug 07 07:44:32 hey RP Aug 07 07:45:03 wow the ports are opened Aug 07 07:46:50 mtn pull is sooo fas Aug 07 07:46:51 t Aug 07 07:47:00 njs: thanks for hacking on monotone Aug 07 07:48:46 It does seem to be flying Aug 07 07:48:59 * RP watches it pull ~130 revisions Aug 07 07:49:28 RP: it just pulled ~160 revs Aug 07 07:50:34 hey zecke - check this out when you get a chance - http://www.openembedded.org/buildonosx Aug 07 07:50:49 oh we have a 'stable' kernel again? Aug 07 07:51:45 RP: wb, you were on holidays? what did you see/do? (motor)cycling? Aug 07 07:53:56 mithro: hey Aug 07 07:54:02 zecke, i would appreciate any feedback you have to offer in the way of clarifying: where you obtained getopt, if gnu make-3.79 is ok, if you find using psyco, diffstat, sgmltool necessary, and if glic headers are needed (and if so where you got them) Aug 07 07:54:04 mithro: feel like testing? Aug 07 07:54:25 GNU Make version 3.79.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath. Aug 07 07:54:26 Built for i386-apple-darwin8.7.1 Aug 07 07:54:27 *glibc headers Aug 07 07:54:39 zecke: testing what? :P Aug 07 07:54:49 mithro: TP -> ToiletPaper? Aug 07 07:55:04 mithro: you are invited to participate at the Grand National TP rally Aug 07 07:55:57 zecke: sure! just checking you wern't trying to trick me into doing testing of something else :P Aug 07 07:56:38 poushag: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ieCMGX54.html <- I have this installed Aug 07 07:56:51 poushag: most of it should be unrelated to OE Aug 07 07:57:20 poushag: I will try to find the 'minimal' host system needed, after fixing the Keith Packards software bits... Aug 07 07:57:26 is that a fink list or what? Aug 07 07:57:28 zecke: I went to a race track (Cadwell Park) and spend two days going around in circles ;-) Aug 07 07:58:03 RP: moto cross, or a real race track? Aug 07 07:58:13 mithro: just msg me the ssh bits Aug 07 07:58:21 zecke: real race track Aug 07 07:58:28 let me find a photo... Aug 07 07:58:29 hi Aug 07 07:58:31 hey Aug 07 07:58:31 hi hrw|work Aug 07 07:58:43 hi Aug 07 07:58:46 RP: what was your best time? Aug 07 07:58:51 RP: did you compete with others? Aug 07 07:59:21 zecke: NOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.4-r6: task do_compile: started <- on OSX Aug 07 08:00:07 RP: We have good news. Burn your ugly PCs, get some macs still use OE ;) Aug 07 08:00:08 zecke, was that paste a list of fink items? Aug 07 08:00:23 RP: ah and BTW you are invited to OEDEM Aug 07 08:00:28 hahahah - yeah macs are da bomb Aug 07 08:00:32 hrw|work: hey Aug 07 08:00:36 poushag: yes this was the result of dpkg -l Aug 07 08:00:44 poushag: which lists all installed fink packages Aug 07 08:00:52 zecke: http://malachite.adamanda.org/pics/cadwell-060712/ Aug 07 08:01:01 zecke: What is OEDEM? :) Aug 07 08:01:10 poushag: basicly only the autoconf, zip,unzip, cvs, svn bits should matter Aug 07 08:01:28 RP: looks like a good circle Aug 07 08:01:29 right on - werent you complaining that python is slow on osx - i found psyco on darwin ports - care to try it? Aug 07 08:01:51 RP: basicly we try to get together in the second week of october Aug 07 08:02:03 RP: OE devels European Meeting in Berlin Aug 07 08:02:08 RP: get together in berlin and talk, drink (well officialy we are working) Aug 07 08:02:41 hey hrw|work Aug 07 08:02:45 RP: if things goes well, my mom leaves and 'you' can crash at my home... Aug 07 08:03:10 You don't realise how steep those hills are on that circuit from the air :) Aug 07 08:03:19 zecke: no ICQ? Aug 07 08:03:27 zecke can you rerun the dpkg list with a wider column for pkg names pls? Aug 07 08:03:42 poushag: how? Aug 07 08:03:50 dunno Aug 07 08:03:55 zecke: I'll have to see what time I have available. I'm not sure I can get time off around then :-/ Aug 07 08:04:07 RP: off from work? Aug 07 08:04:09 but many pkg name are cut short Aug 07 08:04:46 http://rafb.net/paste/results/9v1h4T50.html Aug 07 08:05:21 rp -you might want to be on guard - i hear theres a plot to kidnap you to the meeting afoot ;) Aug 07 08:05:27 RP: I'm sure mallum will let you go, but I don't know about your deadlines... Aug 07 08:05:42 thx zecke Aug 07 08:06:27 poushag: you could point to the universal version of mtn as well Aug 07 08:06:59 zecke: COLUMNS=1000 dpkg -l or dpkg -l >file Aug 07 08:06:59 poushag: "For support, see zecke..." let us point my telephone numbers there :} Aug 07 08:07:07 hrw|work: thanks Aug 07 08:07:13 i thought about that zecke, but next time it changed the thing would be outdated - so i left it with maximum future compatibility Aug 07 08:07:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r00a3eca7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 07 08:07:51 handhelds-pxa-2.6: add patch to enable iwmmxt for the hx4700 Aug 07 08:07:51 * tested using DISTRO=angstrom-2006.9: Aug 07 08:07:51 root@ipaq-pxa270:~$ ./iwmmx-test Aug 07 08:07:51 before: 10203045060708 10203045060708 Aug 07 08:07:52 after: 2040608a0c0e10 Aug 07 08:07:57 zecke: There is a dealine around then I'm thinking of :-/ Aug 07 08:08:00 the osx DL link for mtn is quite obvious Aug 07 08:08:38 RP: would you mind to finish it early? Aug 07 08:09:07 RP: iwmmxt + EABI is tested and working in OE, in case mallum wants to do POKY_MODE = "eabi" Aug 07 08:09:12 zecke, koen and other mac addicts - care to try py-psyco from darwinports? Aug 07 08:09:24 * koen doesn't have darwinports Aug 07 08:09:55 zecke: I can't change the deadline in question. I'll dicuss it though Aug 07 08:09:59 i just DLed it - would be childs play compared to building mtn on mac Aug 07 08:10:17 koen: I noticed the conversation in #maemo :) Aug 07 08:10:32 RP: yes, but now I have actually tested it :) Aug 07 08:10:54 koen: excellent :) Aug 07 08:11:04 RP: I'm sure you will find your way to Berlin! Aug 07 08:11:30 koen: Of course poky uses gcc 3.x and I don't know how well it will work with that hacked toolchain... Aug 07 08:11:55 yeah rp - after the spanish inquisition comes to get you ;) Aug 07 08:12:25 ~monty python Aug 07 08:12:33 rumour has it, monty python is horribly unfunny and yet somehow genius I DON'T LIKE SPAM! Aug 07 08:12:33 * RP wonders what plans have been made... :) Aug 07 08:13:13 aaargh Aug 07 08:13:29 /dev/mtdblock2 76.8M 65.7M 11.1M 86% / Aug 07 08:13:36 rm: cannot remove directory `ipkg-1fiajI': No space left on device Aug 07 08:13:41 ~kill jffs2 Aug 07 08:13:44 * ibot shoots a excited electron gun at jffs2 Aug 07 08:14:36 koen: Nice :) Aug 07 08:18:10 koen: cups from .dev does not build in .oz354x Aug 07 08:18:23 | Compiling BuiltinFont.cxx... Aug 07 08:18:23 | arm-linux-gcc: Annot.cxx: C++ compiler not installed on this system Aug 07 08:19:15 hrw|work: that means OE didn't build g++ Aug 07 08:19:25 hrw|work: IOW, your toolchain is broken.... Aug 07 08:19:36 or the flags are wrong Aug 07 08:19:42 hrw|work: paste you config.log please Aug 07 08:20:06 zecke: rebuilding gcc-cross with languages=c,c++ fixed the problem for me Aug 07 08:21:32 koen: we have c,c++ as languages for gcc-cross? Aug 07 08:21:35 koen: don't we? Aug 07 08:21:56 zecke: yes, but it seems the $JAVA and $FORTRAN bits are messing it up Aug 07 08:22:11 koen: oh well, this would mean QtE can't be compiled Aug 07 08:22:16 zecke: it seems gcc doesn't like the extra ',' after c++ sometimes Aug 07 08:22:20 koen: which I'm sure we did build for some time... Aug 07 08:22:24 ah okay Aug 07 08:22:32 zecke, i dont suppose you would share the monotone, getopt, and boost pkgs with me would you? Aug 07 08:22:48 poushag: right Aug 07 08:23:03 poushag: 'sudo fink install quilt' should get you getopt Aug 07 08:23:05 poushag: I don't want to offer you giving the sourcecode for the next three years Aug 07 08:23:17 koen: fink can do sudo and su itself Aug 07 08:23:34 poushag: and the monotone site has a static mtn binary, so boost isn't needed Aug 07 08:24:13 well it seemed like yesterday everybody was happy to violate the gpl - now all of a sudden everyones reformed ;) Aug 07 08:24:33 zecke - i didnt see the static binary - looking... Aug 07 08:25:26 and you do have boost in your dpkg list btw Aug 07 08:25:45 mithro_: hey Aug 07 08:26:09 poushag: http://venge.net/monotone/downloads/mtn-0.28-osx-univ.bz2 Aug 07 08:26:16 wtf? Aug 07 08:26:29 mithro: It's me your brother, Luigi Aug 07 08:27:19 bah, because you are mithro_ I can't ghost you :P Aug 07 08:27:31 hehe - koen i DLed that file a while back - it didnt seem like a binary when unzipped Aug 07 08:27:50 chmod +x mtn-0.28-osx-univ Aug 07 08:27:52 mithro: I switched to the test user, to setup chicken of vnc Aug 07 08:28:03 ahh okay Aug 07 08:28:11 didnt know what to do with it - figured it was a src folder - glad it's not :) Aug 07 08:28:46 mithro: Just need to find a VNC server Aug 07 08:28:53 which bin dir did you put it into koen? Aug 07 08:31:32 powerbook-wlan:~ koen$ which mtn Aug 07 08:31:39 /usr/bin/mtn Aug 07 08:31:57 mithro: please try now Aug 07 08:34:10 koen: is there a tool which remove x86 or ppc part from universal osX binaries? Aug 07 08:34:46 hrw|work: maybe using lipo Aug 07 08:35:07 hrw|work: lipo -remove arch_type binary Aug 07 08:35:31 hrw, i think you can open the package and extract it using pacifist if the pkg is not already openable without it Aug 07 08:35:46 but im just guessing - havent done it Aug 07 08:36:25 mithro: now? Aug 07 08:37:13 thx zecke, poushag Aug 07 08:39:33 ok folks, i got the wiki updated per your feedback - im going to sleep - maybe i will be able to get 4 hours if im lucky :P Aug 07 08:40:19 one of these mac addicts is going to try psyco from darwinports to speed up python - i just know it ;) Aug 07 08:40:23 poushag: sleep well Aug 07 08:40:42 thx and g nite Aug 07 08:42:42 ping! Aug 07 08:43:32 meeting ;( Aug 07 08:57:57 yo Aug 07 09:04:03 koen: i thought i had put in the bugtracker about --languages=c,c++ and having $FORTRAN == ",fotran" and $JAVA ==",java" Aug 07 09:04:09 but i can't find it Aug 07 09:05:27 ade|desk: iirc I fixed that behaviour Aug 07 09:05:31 (in .dev) Aug 07 09:06:49 heey mikearthur Aug 07 09:07:01 heeey koen Aug 07 09:08:14 XorA: saw you on George Street yesterday with your lady Aug 07 09:08:43 spies everywhere Aug 07 09:10:17 mikearthur: how drunk was I? Aug 07 09:10:29 it was at about 6pm Aug 07 09:10:37 so hopefully not too bad :) Aug 07 09:10:44 I was going to shout and say hey Aug 07 09:10:55 mikearthur: that'll be on way to TGI's before second trip to tonic Aug 07 09:10:56 but I had a mindblank and couldn't remember your real name Aug 07 09:11:18 and my gf things I'm enough of a nerd without calling people by their irc names :D Aug 07 09:11:26 s/things/thinks Aug 07 09:11:45 mikearthur: heh heh, Ive spent loads of time at cons gettng called XOrA Im used to it Aug 07 09:13:03 hehe Aug 07 09:13:03 i used to call people by their packet radio handle, back in the days when i was into analogue electronics ;) Aug 07 09:13:10 giel: lol Aug 07 09:14:06 heh, a google for my handle still gives a page with my first name and location Aug 07 09:14:07 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r6b3e24a2... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Aug 07 09:14:07 classes/package_ipk.bbclass: move PACKAGE_FUNC from here ... Aug 07 09:14:07 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: ... to here Aug 07 09:14:07 The packaged-staging stuff is now completely self-contained in one class now Aug 07 09:14:21 i'd be tickled pink if some some could pronouce M1BFY Aug 07 09:14:36 koen: and is it working? you might need a package.bbclass backport from .dev Aug 07 09:15:16 ade|desk: em-one-beefy? Aug 07 09:17:36 zecke: the only change to package.bbclass is this: Aug 07 09:17:43 * koen -PACKAGEFUNCS = "do_install package_do_split_locales \+PACKAGEFUNCS ?= " do_install package_do_split_locales \ Aug 07 09:18:10 yes Aug 07 09:18:20 oh well Aug 07 09:18:37 e.g. do you see do_install being executed twice? Aug 07 09:18:45 ouch, I think I have broken it :) Aug 07 09:25:50 hey mallum Aug 07 09:26:02 hey koen Aug 07 09:27:16 eek we need to upgrade openssl Aug 07 09:28:11 mallum: running http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/iwmmx-test works on my hx4700 Aug 07 09:28:30 koen: what is the source ? Aug 07 09:30:16 koen: that was no built on darwin! Aug 07 09:30:33 mallum: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/iwmmx-test.c Aug 07 09:31:33 zecke: that was actually built on the same ipaq, with 'ipkg install gcc-symlinks binutils-symlinks ; gcc test-iwmmx.c -o test-iwmmx -Os -mcpu=iwmmxt' Aug 07 09:32:23 koen: It would be nice if we could pass --with-cpu to the gcc builds directly Aug 07 09:32:33 koen: currently our default is armv3 Aug 07 09:32:46 alternatively we can edit the spec Aug 07 09:35:10 good morning Aug 07 09:37:59 mithro: still trying? Aug 07 09:46:56 zecke: not just at the moment Aug 07 09:54:10 wow, I actually got a gpe-image built Aug 07 09:56:01 congrats Aug 07 10:09:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra7904b53... 10/ (1 conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf): ipaq-pxa270.conf: make iwmmxt a higher priority as armv5te Aug 07 10:10:21 re Aug 07 10:10:55 hi hrw Aug 07 10:11:55 ~lart nvidia network cards Aug 07 10:11:56 * ibot cats /dev/urandom into nvidia network cards's ear Aug 07 10:12:03 hm? Aug 07 10:12:25 at work we have one win32 machine with two nvidia onboard NICs - both do not work (cannot get IP from DHCP) Aug 07 10:12:37 hu? Aug 07 10:12:39 other machine works with same ethernet cable Aug 07 10:12:56 florian_kc: hi Aug 07 10:13:11 florian_kc: can you fix gpe-conf to work when /etc/localtime is absent? Aug 07 10:13:34 mallum: is there a chance of a kdrive 1.1.x release soon? Aug 07 10:14:01 hrw|work: yes, koen sent me a mail about that, will try to fix this today. Aug 07 10:14:12 mallum: the git version works great, but the 1.1.0 still has the 'mb menus are black half the time' issues Aug 07 10:15:53 hrw|work: years ago I say a nice problem: netware + cisco switches + 3com nics didn't work Aug 07 10:16:06 hrw|work: replacing any one of the three made it work Aug 07 10:17:32 koen: nvidia cards in other machines work ok on same cables Aug 07 10:17:58 koen: 3com BNC cards had higher voltage level to be able to work on >185m cables Aug 07 10:18:05 iirc Aug 07 10:18:39 yeah, but installing OS/2 on the same server made work, as well as replacing the switches with hp ones Aug 07 10:19:16 it was just a very weird interaction Aug 07 10:21:32 koen: btw - cups from .dev does not build in .oz354x Aug 07 10:21:53 the c++ error? Aug 07 10:22:01 try rebuilding gcc-cross Aug 07 10:22:04 that fixed it for me Aug 07 10:22:32 hrw|work: the main fix are the 'FILES_${PN}' to make the webgui work Aug 07 10:22:46 so putting that in the .bb in .oz should fix cups as well Aug 07 10:23:15 ok Aug 07 10:29:04 morning all Aug 07 10:29:10 hi Dirk Aug 07 10:29:23 hey Richard Aug 07 10:30:01 hey Dirk Aug 07 10:30:11 hi dirk Aug 07 10:30:33 hi koen, Marcin Aug 07 10:35:19 ~lart monotone Aug 07 10:35:20 * ibot flings poo at monotone Aug 07 10:35:44 mtn: Warnung: rename target conflict: nodes 16.844, 16.805, both want parent 12.643, name libcontactsdb_0.5.bb Aug 07 10:35:47 ~lart freetype Aug 07 10:35:48 * ibot nabs the moon and broadsides freetype with the sea of tranquility Aug 07 10:36:02 What does monotone want me to do? Aug 07 10:36:46 florian_kc: I think monotone is trying to say that I am way ahead of you ;) Aug 07 10:37:06 koen: yeah Aug 07 10:37:09 ok Aug 07 10:39:00 Autotools -- Used by KDE 3.x applications. Aug 07 10:39:01 This will make your eyes bleed and your brain beg for mercy. Aug 07 10:39:03 ;D Aug 07 10:44:44 koen: NOTE: package cups-1.1.23-r4: task do_build: completed Aug 07 10:45:02 hrw|work: great! Aug 07 10:45:25 hrw|work: shouldn't wpa_gui RDEPEND on wpa-supplicant? Aug 07 10:45:43 koen: do you have any clue how i can resolve these kind of conflicts? Aug 07 10:46:05 florian_kc: delete your version of the .bb? Aug 07 10:46:54 koen: good idea Aug 07 10:47:27 hrw|work: I only noticed because I started wpa_gui from a serial terminal Aug 07 10:47:49 hrw|work: otherwise I wouldn't have seen the "wpa_supplicant not running" messages Aug 07 10:49:31 ~lart gtk2 for non-AA.. Aug 07 10:49:31 * ibot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, gtk2!" and lops off gtk2's head for non-AA.. Aug 07 10:49:47 * hrw|work want firefox/Qt Aug 07 10:50:05 hrw|work: and all those "we want xmms" complainers probably haven't tried to use it :) Aug 07 10:53:46 | Dumping under names emacs and emacs-22.0.50 Aug 07 10:53:46 | qemu: Unsupported syscall: 194 Aug 07 10:53:48 ;( Aug 07 10:54:22 BTW: autoconf guys rock! Aug 07 10:54:35 I have run make check on autoconf2.60 which lead to one error Aug 07 10:54:39 due my version of m4 Aug 07 10:54:55 I mailed them the tesstsuite.log and within hours I had two replies Aug 07 10:55:26 hrw|work: which version of qemu-native do you have? Aug 07 10:55:32 0.7 Aug 07 10:55:35 hrw|work: JustinP mentioned it only worked under 0.8.0 Aug 07 10:55:44 zecke what relpies? Aug 07 10:56:42 koen: then will upgrade to 0.8.1 Aug 07 10:56:57 hrw|work: that didn't work for justinp iirc Aug 07 10:57:12 koen: then will check 0.8.0 Aug 07 10:57:16 :) Aug 07 10:58:25 pb_: could you make keithp fix his software? Aug 07 11:01:38 who is the guy here with the tosa again? Aug 07 11:01:53 mikearthur: now or at all? Aug 07 11:02:11 at all Aug 07 11:02:22 not the project one Aug 07 11:02:47 mikearthur: mickeyl, do13 has own ones, lrg and I have OE ones Aug 07 11:03:07 lrg doesn't have an OE one ;) Aug 07 11:03:11 do13: ping Aug 07 11:03:23 mikearthur: so who has it now? Aug 07 11:03:27 hrw|work: I do Aug 07 11:03:28 hrw|work: mikearthur Aug 07 11:03:40 however, its about 3m from lrgs desk Aug 07 11:03:43 hrw|work: but mikearthur is lrg's slave Aug 07 11:03:44 mikearthur: ah.. Aug 07 11:03:56 zecke: I object somewhat to "slave" :p Aug 07 11:03:58 I was on vacations when that happened ;) Aug 07 11:04:01 mikearthur: pong Aug 07 11:04:13 mikearthur: think of slave as a nice german word Aug 07 11:04:23 do13 and hrw|work: what was the touch/LCD problems with the Tosa? Aug 07 11:04:26 mikearthur: meaning ... whatever :) Aug 07 11:04:39 mikearthur: nonlinear TS Aug 07 11:04:42 mikearthur: the lcd disturbs the touch Aug 07 11:05:00 do13_: otherway round surely? Aug 07 11:05:22 do13_: I seem to get strange yellow streaks Aug 07 11:05:34 mikearthur: run opie-drawpad or gpe-sketchbook and try to draw lines Aug 07 11:05:40 cool Aug 07 11:05:45 mikearthur: yep this is another known prob Aug 07 11:05:59 mikearthur: yellow lines are frambeffer bug - iirc it need 16bit align on each fb write/draw Aug 07 11:06:02 XorA: the mplayer.bb doesn't have a way to enable iwmmx Aug 07 11:06:29 CFLAGS="-march=iwmmxt -mtune=iwmmxt"? Aug 07 11:06:40 mikearthur: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490 Aug 07 11:06:45 koen: Makefile does it Aug 07 11:06:47 zecke: configure needs to set TARGET_IWMMXT Aug 07 11:06:47 hrw|work: cheers Aug 07 11:06:57 koen: only one file has iwmmxt assembler anyway Aug 07 11:07:10 koen: its based on ARCH in the makefile Aug 07 11:07:18 XorA: It doesn't compile the iwmmxt bits over here Aug 07 11:07:26 hrw|work: I just ran sketchbook and want to cry :( Aug 07 11:07:33 koen: last time someone checked for me it did Aug 07 11:07:50 XorA: the atty one did, not the 'release' we have in OE now Aug 07 11:07:51 mikearthur: I get used to it Aug 07 11:08:06 XorA: the mplayer people forgot to teach configure how to enable it... Aug 07 11:08:14 hrw|work: on the good side, I can now draw heartbeat monitors pretty well :| Aug 07 11:08:28 mikearthur: ;D Aug 07 11:08:44 mikearthur: read about the mask pin in the wm9712 datasheet Aug 07 11:09:44 do13_: sure Aug 07 11:09:44 koen: configure doesnt need to know, Makefile has f statements based on $ARCH if I remember rght Aug 07 11:12:37 XorA: ifeq ($(TARGET_IWMMXT),yes) Aug 07 11:13:28 pb_: hey Aug 07 11:16:08 koen: looks familiar, are they not working? Aug 07 11:16:32 that TARGET thing never gets set Aug 07 11:16:47 koen: that is odd as it works in the pxa case Aug 07 11:17:52 hail zecke Aug 07 11:19:18 koen: looks like you'll have to merge in the right patch from -atty then send upstream Aug 07 11:25:52 koen: have you used FileVault? Aug 07 11:26:03 pb_: can you make keithp fix his software? Aug 07 11:27:27 zecke: nope Aug 07 11:30:56 alsa-utils-alsamxer should RDEPEND on alsa-conf Aug 07 11:34:51 does that mean I add RDEPENDS_alsa-utils-alsamixer += "alsa-conf" to alsa-utils .bb? Aug 07 11:35:17 * XorA suffers from bainstoppage Aug 07 11:35:27 probably due to over alcohol use yesterday Aug 07 11:36:07 ah in fact, examples right there under my eyes Aug 07 11:38:29 XorA: hmmm, after some hacking it compiled the _iwmmxt.c versions, but I can't find any iwmmxt opcodes in the dissasembly :( Aug 07 11:44:40 I do not know why I feel in last days that 768M or 1024M of ram can be not enough for one user... Aug 07 11:47:10 someone know how long does emacs take to build? Aug 07 11:55:10 pb_: I imported xcalibrate proto and lib into git Aug 07 11:55:36 pb_: Im not sure if I did it right though :/ Aug 07 11:56:29 zecke: fontconfig ? Aug 07 11:59:14 mallum: it uses the targe CFLAGS and CCLD to compile host fontconfig tools Aug 07 11:59:21 mallum: this fails for uclibc builds Aug 07 11:59:31 mallum: and when you have libc host != libc target Aug 07 12:02:38 zecke: hmm fun, do you have a patch ? Aug 07 12:03:15 mallum: no, I don't know what I want to do Aug 07 12:03:35 a) SUBDIRS = @TARGET_DIRS@ @HOST_DIRS@ Aug 07 12:03:46 and not to compiled HOST_DIRS Aug 07 12:03:48 ~lart the zlib.bbmaintainer Aug 07 12:03:48 * ibot takes the zlib.bbmaintainer to the vet for a "special" visit Aug 07 12:04:10 b) assume gcc as host compiler and use CC for linking Aug 07 12:04:10 hihi Aug 07 12:04:12 kergoth Aug 07 12:05:23 woglinde: I think the freetype.bb file deserves fixing Aug 07 12:05:29 woglinde: and zlib needs autoconf love Aug 07 12:05:40 zlib.la is defenitiv the error Aug 07 12:06:00 woglinde: I'm asking people for two days to take a look at the .la file... Aug 07 12:06:09 *food* Aug 07 12:06:45 zecke yes Aug 07 12:06:53 zecke sorry Aug 07 12:08:02 ~lart mvista Aug 07 12:08:03 * ibot takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in mvista's direction, hitting mvista and sending mvista flying into the closet Aug 07 12:14:30 NOTE: package openssh-4.3p2: completed Aug 07 12:18:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40b26cca... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): openssh: add 4.3p2 Aug 07 12:18:30 zecke: there you go Aug 07 12:21:14 morning all Aug 07 12:21:15 hey lrg Aug 07 12:21:47 hey Liam Aug 07 12:22:18 hi Liam Aug 07 12:24:15 lrg: g'day Aug 07 12:26:45 I suspect bitbake for messing with my preferred versions.. Aug 07 12:27:50 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ree130986... 10/ (1 packages/openssh/openssh_4.3p2.bb): openssh 4.3: wind back PR now it's still safe Aug 07 12:29:37 local.conf use distro 3.5.4.2 which (include openzaurus which (include pref-vers-gpe-2.7.inc which (set pref_ver_package=0.109))) and set pref_ver_package=0.114 - as result I got 0.109 instead of 0.114 Aug 07 12:32:46 hey liam Aug 07 12:32:51 hrw|work: is that's why http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=OpenZaurus-354x lists errors? Aug 07 12:34:28 suspect it Aug 07 12:39:07 zecke: InitialValues.pm updated and svn ci'd Aug 07 12:41:54 bleh Aug 07 12:42:22 working on perl and python scripts is too much Aug 07 12:42:33 * koen waits for his eyes to stop bleeding Aug 07 12:43:23 koen:perl especially, although pythons indentation makes me want to stab my hands Aug 07 12:44:09 true Aug 07 12:47:42 lrg: have pre6 on my Z Aug 07 12:48:32 XorA: just creating pre7 now Aug 07 12:50:55 suspect it Aug 07 12:50:57 ops Aug 07 12:51:15 ~seen reenoo Aug 07 12:51:18 france_: hey! Aug 07 12:51:28 reenoo was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds.org, 1d 12h 56m 38s ago, saying: ''night all'. Aug 07 12:51:39 france_: do you know if reenoo updated the familiar OpenSSL bb file? Aug 07 12:52:27 zecke: I do not. I have been running on over load this week. Aug 07 12:52:38 zecke: just getting back to normal hectic. :-0 Aug 07 12:54:09 france_: that sounds too familiar... Aug 07 12:54:19 * zecke is firefighting as well Aug 07 12:55:15 if I only had 29 hours in a day I could get caught up. :-D Aug 07 12:55:28 chmod 711 roxx for hiding feeds from people Aug 07 12:56:14 hrw|work: what kind of feeds? Aug 07 12:56:27 mikearthur: 3.5.4.2 tosa experiments Aug 07 12:56:28 mikearthur: the ones you don't see Aug 07 12:56:57 zecke: pwned Aug 07 13:11:36 XorA, RP: pre7 on it's way Aug 07 13:13:14 lrg: I see t Aug 07 13:13:15 it Aug 07 13:15:08 * XorA is missing something obvious in the alsa world Aug 07 13:16:30 how to preserve modification on the rootfs when working with OE ? Aug 07 13:16:57 like modification in /etc ... Aug 07 13:17:26 Genesis: integrate modifications into OE? Aug 07 13:17:41 Genesis: conffiles can be added into CONFFILES Aug 07 13:17:49 i look Aug 07 13:18:43 how does it work ? Aug 07 13:19:11 Genesis: ipkg ask on every file fron CONFFILES Aug 07 13:19:27 file modified: install from package/keep original/show diff Aug 07 13:19:31 kind of that Aug 07 13:19:38 oki i look after ipkg documentation so Aug 07 13:20:02 i'll write something in the OE wiki because it's a big hell Aug 07 13:20:21 lrg: what termnally dumb thing have I done where oss output works but alsa gives http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/wXxbrH77.html Aug 07 13:21:17 XorA: have you upgraded to gcc 4.1.1 ? Aug 07 13:21:52 lrg: yes, but a change was put into OE version to fix the alsa bug Aug 07 13:23:19 XorA: ah I see it now. Can you try aplay -f DAT /dev/zero. We don't support U8 on pxa2xx Aug 07 13:24:29 lrg: same result Aug 07 13:24:47 XorA: can you post Aug 07 13:25:14 http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/dS1d9g76.html Aug 07 13:26:14 XorA: ok, can you try again with aplay -Dhw:0,0 -f DAT /dev/zero Aug 07 13:28:24 reenoo: hey, did you upgrade OpenSSL yet? Aug 07 13:29:12 lrg: that works Aug 07 13:29:59 XorA: looks like alsa-lib has the optimisation bug in your system. did it build with -O1 ? Aug 07 13:30:22 lrg: checking Aug 07 13:31:48 zecke: hi. what's the problem with OpenSSL? Aug 07 13:31:56 lrg: looks like compiled with O2, linked with O1 Aug 07 13:32:18 XorA: ah, can you try and build with O1 Aug 07 13:32:44 lrg: I shall try that cheers Aug 07 13:33:19 XorA: we may need to add detection for gcc 4.1.1 in alsa lib BB and force an O1 build if detected. Aug 07 13:34:50 lrg: this a well know "feature" then? Aug 07 13:35:38 reenoo: http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20051011.txt Aug 07 13:35:53 reenoo: and the OE version is 0.9.7g Aug 07 13:36:21 and I feel ashamed to have not seen this Aug 07 13:36:39 XorA: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27363 Aug 07 13:37:08 reenoo: I need to check if we use that option at all (SSL_OP_ALL) Aug 07 13:37:12 XorA: Although there is now a fix for gcc :-http://sourceware.org/ml/crossgcc/2006-07/msg00033.html Aug 07 13:37:26 zecke: well, 0.8.4 doesn't ship openssl Aug 07 13:37:52 XorA: it might be better to add the gcc fix to the gcc-4.1.1 bb Aug 07 13:37:56 reenoo: awesome :) Aug 07 13:38:01 lrg: I think it is Aug 07 13:38:03 lrg: the fix should be already there Aug 07 13:38:21 lrg: maybe koen bult this image before fix was added, I am loading my version of libasound2 Aug 07 13:38:48 ~lart ipkg for not prefering his feed Aug 07 13:38:48 * ibot send killer squirrels to attack ipkg for not prefering his feed Aug 07 13:39:35 XorA, lrg: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/cse.patch Aug 07 13:40:17 koen: cool. I best upgrade my gcc now. :) Aug 07 13:41:27 lrg: koen ahah, koen's feed contains a pre-bugfixed libasound2 my one works Aug 07 13:41:48 lrg: cheers for the help Aug 07 13:42:13 XorA: I'll upload a fixed libasound later today Aug 07 13:45:46 zecke: NOTE: package openssl-0.9.8b-r0: task do_compile: started Aug 07 13:46:06 koen: how did you patch Configure? Aug 07 13:46:18 koen: the ugly debian patch + one common patch? Aug 07 13:46:49 XorA: any joy with pre7 and static noise ? Aug 07 13:47:04 lrg: pre6 isnt showing static for me Aug 07 13:47:14 XorA: cool :) Aug 07 13:47:17 lrg: Ill compile pre7 in a minute Aug 07 13:47:41 XorA: it's the same as pre6, with the compile fixes for corgi . Aug 07 13:47:48 zecke: patch from debian + one common patch for arm, armeb and gnueabo Aug 07 13:47:54 s/bo/bi/ Aug 07 13:49:05 lrg: sorted, then it should work then, have to see if RP still has static Aug 07 13:49:09 koen: good, same as I did ;) Aug 07 13:49:24 koen: I wonder why linux-elf-* vanished... but I think OpenSSL must simply die! Aug 07 13:49:25 zecke: I did update the common patch based on the debian one Aug 07 13:49:58 koen: thats mplayer wth w100 working on Angstrom on my Z Aug 07 13:50:12 pb_: can you tell me something about libpthread_nonshared.a Aug 07 13:52:16 XorA: cool Aug 07 13:53:06 koen: so I have video and no working desktop :-) Aug 07 13:56:08 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r635cbb19... 10/ (1 packages/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.11.bb): alsa-utils_1.0.11.bb : Added alsa-conf to alsamixer RDEPENDS Aug 07 13:56:58 zecke: it does fail to create a shared lib over here Aug 07 13:59:27 yes Aug 07 13:59:29 it works Aug 07 13:59:30 fine Aug 07 13:59:34 damnit libz Aug 07 14:00:45 hehe Aug 07 14:00:58 hm but someone has to test it Aug 07 14:01:09 if the created libz works Aug 07 14:01:28 woglinde: well, think of Peter Loehr Aug 07 14:01:41 woglinde: and try to remember the famous words od Dijkstra Aug 07 14:05:15 "never underestimate the bandwith of a van loaded with tapes cruising down the highway"? Aug 07 14:05:31 XorA: the libasound in the feed should be fixed now Aug 07 14:08:22 lrg, XorA I'll aim to test poodle tonight Aug 07 14:08:39 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/76486 Aug 07 14:08:49 RP: hi Aug 07 14:09:16 RP: can you look at difference of .oz354x and .dev kernel patches? Aug 07 14:10:48 RP: cheers. I would like to submit to alsa this week Aug 07 14:11:14 lrg: does ASoC support the npb as well? Aug 07 14:11:52 koen: not yet as we don't support the codec. Although, this should be about 1 - 2 days work. Aug 07 14:13:48 zecke whats the oecommand vor autoreconf? Aug 07 14:13:52 or just invoke it Aug 07 14:15:57 inherit autotools Aug 07 14:17:04 seems not to work Aug 07 14:20:24 zecke: 2 hours and 18 minutes left Aug 07 14:22:34 koen: until? Aug 07 14:22:45 koen: your OSX toolchain works? Aug 07 14:23:05 zecke: till steve announce intel xserves Aug 07 14:23:21 AMD xserves you mean? Aug 07 14:23:38 AMB 4x4 xserves would be neat Aug 07 14:23:44 "One more thing. RMS is gay" Aug 07 14:23:49 heh Aug 07 14:24:00 I also figured out why my powerbook was so slow Aug 07 14:24:13 I had a zombie mtn process taking 100% cpu Aug 07 14:24:14 koen: As you need Mac for PoweR? Aug 07 14:25:47 hmm, before I could try my gcc 3.3.6. iwmmxt toolchain I removed it... Aug 07 14:27:09 hrw|work: is the updated cups in the upgrades feed? Aug 07 14:27:23 not yet Aug 07 14:34:53 lrg: Great, if submission is imminent, I'll get some final testing done :) Aug 07 14:35:20 hrw|work: hi, any differences in particular or do they just need syncing? Aug 07 14:36:25 RP: its poodle patches in subdirs what differ Aug 07 14:36:59 RP: I do not 'want' to touch them Aug 07 14:38:50 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r9fad281b... 10/ (1 packages/libcontactsdb/libcontactsdb_0.5.bb): libcontactsdb: add 0.5 Aug 07 14:38:56 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r88c80950... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-contacts: Add 0.46, drop ancient versions. Aug 07 14:39:23 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0b7940ef... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.46.bb): gpe-contacts: drop my version Aug 07 14:39:28 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r70cd861a... 10/ (1 packages/libcontactsdb/libcontactsdb_0.5.bb): libcontactsdb: drop my version Aug 07 14:39:34 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf5124452... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libmimedir: Add patch to allow writing the sequence property. Aug 07 14:47:16 RP: how was your trip? Aug 07 14:54:55 RP: I don't know if you saw my questions previously. I'm looking for a way to get the state of the hinge. Not (absolutely not) on the hinge event. Just get the state of the hinge at any time (like with the 2.4 kernel chkhinge). Aug 07 14:55:30 RP: I've tried pulling the ioctl out of zaurusd but it always gives me 0. I've tried chkhinge26 but it's another event driver program. Aug 07 14:55:58 RP: I'm trying to get the hinge's state in order to keep the BL off if I turn on my Z when the clamshell is closed (useful when using it as a music player). Aug 07 14:58:05 florian_kc: you forgot to bump PR on libmimedir :) Aug 07 14:59:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfeca2165... 10/ (1 packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_0.3.1-20060804.bb): libmimedir 03.1.+cvs: bump PR + up default_pref Aug 07 14:59:29 koen: thanks Aug 07 15:00:11 hmm Aug 07 15:00:11 libmimedir-0.4-locale-zh-cn_0.3.1 Aug 07 15:01:08 hrw|work: ok, I'll look at it. I hope people haven't just been checking patches in against the stable branch :-/ Aug 07 15:01:19 JustinP: There is an ioctl to do just that... Aug 07 15:01:32 JustinP: I'm not sure chkhinge uses it though Aug 07 15:01:36 RP: hmmm....well, is it the one being used in zaurusd? Aug 07 15:01:47 RP: I'm pretty sure I copied all of the relevant code and I always get 0 Aug 07 15:02:00 I suppose I'll have to try again then.... Aug 07 15:02:22 it shouldn't matter, but I'm compiling this on my Z Aug 07 15:02:36 RP: thx Aug 07 15:02:49 RP: I want to commit updated kernels into .oz354x.. Aug 07 15:03:05 hrw|work: ok, I'll look at syncing them as well Aug 07 15:03:41 JustinP: The ioctl in switchevd should work. If it doesn't its concivable its a kernel issue Aug 07 15:09:15 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra215524b... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libmimedir: update PV to match so-version Aug 07 15:14:36 woglinde: r u around? Aug 07 15:14:51 hi x29a Aug 07 15:15:02 woglinde: flashin worked great via jtag, but updating the siemens bootloader to 2.5.3 (serial) wont work anymore Aug 07 15:15:13 hm Aug 07 15:15:17 it just says: booting: (none), entering downloadmode Aug 07 15:15:22 sorry I never played with jtag Aug 07 15:15:26 oh, k Aug 07 15:15:47 and my bootloader is since over one year a customized handhelds.org Aug 07 15:15:59 because my flash is broken Aug 07 15:16:13 lucky not all Aug 07 15:16:15 RP: ok, I'll try once more. As I said, I'm pretty sure I copied the code correctly. It felt like perhaps the ioctl only works after a hinge event.... If I still can't get it to work I'll show you my code for review. Aug 07 15:20:10 JustinP: You should see the value from the ioctl change when heaphones are plugged in... Aug 07 15:20:46 Should be easy enough to test... Aug 07 15:22:47 cu Aug 07 15:22:55 RP: nope, still getting 0 Aug 07 15:23:03 RP: I would appreciate a quick perusal: http://oe.reversefold.com/chkhinge/chkhinge.c.txt Aug 07 15:36:55 http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/06/another-powerbook-violently-explodes/ Aug 07 15:37:48 JustinP: event1? Aug 07 15:37:57 JustinP: The keyboard is usually event0 Aug 07 15:38:39 JustinP: You should really check switches exist first like switchevd does ;-) Aug 07 15:39:16 :-/ Aug 07 15:39:31 I must have seen something incorrectly.... Aug 07 15:42:22 * JustinP is embarassed Aug 07 15:42:25 RP: thanks Aug 07 15:43:12 is there any reason not to have a chkhinge command of some kind now? (is there a way to do an ioctl from sh?) Aug 07 15:48:37 JustinP: No reason. We should probably just add something to switchevd to dump the status and exit. Aug 07 15:49:26 RP: that would work Aug 07 15:53:10 can someone do me a flavor and test if this patch is working on some devices Aug 07 15:53:12 http://page.inf.fu-berlin.de/~heinold/zlib.diff Aug 07 15:54:12 woglinde: sure you want to have a configure in the patch? Aug 07 15:54:37 RP: ping Aug 07 15:55:03 lrg: pong Aug 07 15:55:17 woglinde: append the autotools patch as well Aug 07 15:56:16 RP: I'm about to post the latest release announcement and status to alsa-dev, any chance you could post pre7 and scenario patch to rpsys tonight ? Thanks Aug 07 15:56:29 lrg: I'll do that now Aug 07 15:56:37 RP: cheers :) Aug 07 15:57:26 lrg: Should be there now Aug 07 15:57:36 RP: ps, my website/server is coming very soon now. It took a while to gather momentum, but now it's coming Aug 07 15:57:39 RP: thanks Aug 07 15:57:59 lrg: np. I know what servers are like to get ahold of :) Aug 07 16:00:51 ah there it is... Aug 07 16:01:37 zecke if you have looked closely than you should have notice that the patch removes configure and Makefile.in Aug 07 16:02:14 woglinde: yes, both files should be regenerated anyway... Aug 07 16:02:27 hm args Aug 07 16:02:43 I tought monotone diffs the patch too Aug 07 16:03:22 woglinde: and we lack a tests target within the Makefile.am Aug 07 16:03:48 hm it is Aug 07 16:04:10 besides that it looks good Aug 07 16:04:32 woglinde: I didn't know you could write autofoo within a reasonable amount of time Aug 07 16:04:44 lol Aug 07 16:04:50 and it is sane! Aug 07 16:06:12 hm autotools docu is to old on most sites Aug 07 16:06:40 woglinde: I don't know why but it is fashion to quote with [] Aug 07 16:10:39 I have a meta file that calls several packages and then builds a rootfs. Python is one of the packages and it builds ok but when bitbake goes to build the rootfs it gives an error that says python not found. This is because there is no ikg package called python but there is one called python-core. Should this be a bug? In my case I'm calling another package that depends on python-core so it still gets installed but if you were just trying to instal Aug 07 16:10:39 l python it would seem as if it wouldn't install. Aug 07 16:16:52 whats the difference between esound and esound gpe? Aug 07 16:29:50 Gerrath: It sounds like you shouldn't be using python but python-core Aug 07 16:32:20 RP, I agree it is just confusing (at least I think) that it will build the packages with "python" and that is what the bb package is named so a beginner to OE would look in packages/ and see python then use it but it won't work :-/ Aug 07 16:33:02 CosmicPenguin: esd-gpe is an ancient for of esd with some stuff stripped out iirc Aug 07 16:33:46 oh, ok Aug 07 16:33:47 good Aug 07 16:33:50 thanks Aug 07 16:34:06 s/for/fork/ Aug 07 16:34:50 Heaven help me, I'm trying to build xine Aug 07 16:35:52 * heaven hands a copy of GStreamer to CosmicPenguin Aug 07 16:36:30 I just need a player Aug 07 16:36:38 preferably something it doesn't take me three days to build with OE Aug 07 16:36:46 :( Aug 07 16:37:01 dont-have-xv.patch Aug 07 16:37:02 oops - thats bad Aug 07 16:37:14 Thats why I'm building xine!!!! Aug 07 16:37:26 :( Aug 07 16:38:19 my toolchain stopped working :( Aug 07 16:39:02 it was the rm -rf tmp/cross/ that did it ;) Aug 07 16:49:46 hmm, tinderbox: ewi-OZ-3.5.4.1-feed Linux 2.6.16.1 Dep running for > 22 hrs Aug 07 16:50:32 ah Aug 07 17:10:00 http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-niallo-uwe/slides.pdf Aug 07 17:10:40 "on-the-fly rotation is hard - no API in X to do that" Aug 07 17:10:40 hmm Aug 07 17:10:49 aha? ;) Aug 07 17:11:09 maybe they are using XFree 3.3.6 Aug 07 17:16:08 zecke: osx leopard uses a VCS for backing up Aug 07 17:16:20 VCS? Aug 07 17:16:31 watching a live stream? Aug 07 17:16:41 http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/ Aug 07 17:16:47 maybe a stupid Q: I am trying to install kernel module rfcomm, the postinst file reads at the end: Aug 07 17:16:48 if [ x"$D" = "x" ]; then Aug 07 17:16:48 modprobe rfcomm || true Aug 07 17:16:48 fi Aug 07 17:16:57 "you change a file, it automatically backs up" Aug 07 17:17:01 but this modprobe fails, shouldn't there have been an insmod before ? Aug 07 17:17:18 eFfeM: modprobe == insmod, but nicer Aug 07 17:17:53 modprobe resolved depencies and stuff Aug 07 17:17:59 it's the apt-get of module loading Aug 07 17:19:01 hmm, but I get: Aug 07 17:19:02 $ modprobe rfcomm Aug 07 17:19:03 FATAL: Module rfcomm not found. Aug 07 17:19:29 but this works Aug 07 17:19:31 root@NSLU2:/lib/modules/2.6.17$ insmod ./kernel/net/bluetooth/rfcomm/rfcomm.ko Aug 07 17:20:10 how does modprobe know where to look for the module when it is just installed ? Aug 07 17:23:19 wil someone add autoconf-2.60? Aug 07 17:23:23 eFfeM: depmod -ae Aug 07 17:23:35 hi all Aug 07 17:23:45 koen, the postinst file only does depmod -A Aug 07 17:23:52 i'll check further Aug 07 17:23:52 hi x29a ;) Aug 07 17:25:03 hi mr_nice_slacker Aug 07 17:25:09 lets see Aug 07 17:25:13 powering up jtag Aug 07 17:26:13 mr_nice_slacker: did u ever try cable detect? Aug 07 17:26:23 x29a: yes Aug 07 17:26:27 did it work? Aug 07 17:26:33 x29a: Aug 07 17:26:38 x29a: yes Aug 07 17:26:38 ? Aug 07 17:26:40 ah Aug 07 17:26:57 koen, found it, the postinst contains depmod -A which means: Aug 07 17:26:59 This option scans to see if any modules are newer the mod- Aug 07 17:26:59 ules.dep file before any work is done: if not, it silently Aug 07 17:26:59 exits rather than regenerating the files. Aug 07 17:27:07 x29a: you need to follow my parport notes on the jtag manual ;) Aug 07 17:27:18 however the ipk .ko file that was just installed might well be older than modules.dep Aug 07 17:27:40 mr_nice_slacker: see recent changes, i added some stuff there Aug 07 17:27:43 so postinst should do depmod without the -A Aug 07 17:28:16 x29a: thx fine i will start reading right now Aug 07 17:28:29 hmm, bummer Aug 07 17:28:40 Error: Cable initialization failed! Aug 07 17:30:05 hmm, cant be, worked fine yesterday Aug 07 17:31:24 x29a: sorry i thougt you asked about the cable ppdev /dev/parport DLC5 Aug 07 17:31:50 x29a: cable detect without anything else i didn't test Aug 07 17:32:27 bummer, aint working Aug 07 17:32:31 wah Aug 07 17:32:35 x29a: if you also meen the cable ppdev command you need to check the modules as i have written on the page Aug 07 17:32:51 who generates the postinst file ? Aug 07 17:32:56 x29a: what is the output? Aug 07 17:33:16 jtag> cable parallel 0x379 DLC5 Aug 07 17:33:16 Initializing Xilinx DLC5 JTAG Parallel Cable III on parallel port at 0x379 Aug 07 17:33:16 Error: Cable initialization failed! Aug 07 17:33:56 x29a: well as I sayd follow the module part and use cable ppdev command instad Aug 07 17:34:09 that did not work with me yesterday Aug 07 17:34:15 but direct adressing did Aug 07 17:34:45 dies the parport have to be in a special mode? Aug 07 17:34:47 x29a: the cable parallel command shouldn't be used because the ppdev command is a good identifyer of a working /dev/parport configuration Aug 07 17:34:50 right now its ECP+EED Aug 07 17:35:37 hmm, so i should get ppdev workin first Aug 07 17:35:45 x29a: yes! Aug 07 17:35:53 hm, found it, but feel outside my territory. I propose to change the depmod calls in Aug 07 17:35:53 ./classes/kernel.bbclass Aug 07 17:35:54 ./classes/module.bbclass Aug 07 17:35:54 ./packages/linux/mnci-ramses_2.4.21-rmk2-pxa1.bb Aug 07 17:35:54 ./packages/modutils/files/mnci/modutils.sh Aug 07 17:35:55 ./packages/modutils/files/modutils.sh Aug 07 17:35:55 ./packages/update-modules/update-modules-1.0/update-modules Aug 07 17:36:04 from -A to -a Aug 07 17:36:07 mr_nice_slacker: do multiple entries of parport0 in /proc/ioports conflict? Aug 07 17:36:49 x29a: multiple entries? Aug 07 17:36:51 mr_nice_slacker: doh, i wasnt root Aug 07 17:37:00 mr_nice_slacker: now i su'ed and it initializes Aug 07 17:37:02 ill try ppdev Aug 07 17:37:34 nope, wont work Aug 07 17:37:38 ill go parallel Aug 07 17:37:46 wonna get going Aug 07 17:37:56 coffeebreak, back later Aug 07 17:38:05 x29a:see you Aug 07 17:38:14 your off? Aug 07 17:38:41 x29a: no i am online Aug 07 17:39:14 x29a: you just told me that you wanted to go to a coffeebreak ;) Aug 07 17:39:22 no, that was eFfeM-away Aug 07 17:39:44 ill flash blupdater.img directly now Aug 07 17:40:14 x29a: lol Aug 07 17:40:47 x29a: yes you are right i should learn to read Aug 07 17:40:58 has some advantages Aug 07 17:41:00 ;) Aug 07 17:41:16 x29a:i need to improove my english as well Aug 07 17:41:27 same here Aug 07 17:41:46 should i erase flash first? Aug 07 17:42:14 x29a: could be worth a try Aug 07 17:43:10 which addr and how many blocks? Aug 07 17:43:20 can i destroy jtag by wildly erasing flash? Aug 07 17:44:30 x29a: well i don't know, but i think a to high adress only resolves an error Aug 07 17:44:48 x29a: don't bag me if your pad gets fried ;) Aug 07 17:44:54 well i will Aug 07 17:45:24 x29a: than the definitife answer is it will fry your pad and burn down your house *g Aug 07 17:45:38 wow great Aug 07 17:45:45 im a little cold anyway Aug 07 17:45:51 gna Aug 07 17:45:55 ill do without erase Aug 07 17:46:44 k, flashing Aug 07 17:46:54 x29a: we can try to find someone on the hh channel who know if the image will boot - but i thik trying will be faster Aug 07 17:47:19 x29a:ok to late Aug 07 17:47:32 NOTE: package libxine-1.1.2-r0: task do_build: completed Aug 07 17:47:38 whew Aug 07 17:49:45 NOTE: package gxine-0.4.1enhanced: completed Aug 07 17:49:50 Now I'm frightened Aug 07 17:49:51 x29a: would be cool if it will boot - do you think we should use a private channel or start a simpad channel? if we use this channel the advantage is if someone is searching on google he may find this stuff and can use it. the disadvantage is that we are offtopic - i think. Aug 07 17:50:03 CosmicPenguin: totem didn't work out? Aug 07 17:50:08 sigh Aug 07 17:50:17 I haven't been able to build totem for quite some time now Aug 07 17:50:57 mr_nice_slacker: i think starting our own channel is overkill atm, and ppl help around a lot here and in #handhelds.org, so i think we should stay and wait until they kick us out Aug 07 17:51:21 x29a: good thinking Aug 07 17:52:08 x29a: i am planning to build up a oe simpad build server which will be available over a webfrontend on opensimpad.org Aug 07 17:52:45 mr_nice_slacker: kewl, thatd be awesome, i could assist with webprogramming (php, mysql, html, js, whatever) Aug 07 17:53:05 CosmicPenguin: how large is the diff between the AMD tree(s) and .dev? Aug 07 17:53:07 i have some idle-machines around as well, one will become developingPC Aug 07 17:53:12 koen: its minimal Aug 07 17:53:17 koen: the only difference i think right now are the kernels Aug 07 17:53:20 x29a: the frontend will email my server and after the build process is compleate - the server will upload the image and mail the link to the person which wanted the package Aug 07 17:53:31 koen: and since the AMD tree is unlikely to change from now on Aug 07 17:53:47 mr_nice_slacker: sweet Aug 07 17:54:12 mr_nice_slacker: well talk about that again, id have some "livesystem" ideas Aug 07 17:54:16 using php and stuff Aug 07 17:54:50 x29a: livesystem ideas - tell me about Aug 07 17:55:13 mr_nice_slacker: i dunno how much youre into php and webprograming Aug 07 17:55:25 x29a: a lot Aug 07 17:55:58 x29a: but i will prefere the email method cause of security reasons Aug 07 17:55:59 but i saw a webbased c-compiler, which raised the idea of building a packagebuilder (just like you intended) but with live-interaction Aug 07 17:56:10 mr_nice_slacker: yeah, thats the issue, security Aug 07 17:56:39 x29a: i don't have enought time to administrate the server Aug 07 17:56:53 time, thats the other issue Aug 07 17:57:55 x29a: well administration is a time hungry thing you must allways up to date about security stuff - that would be oberkill for a free service Aug 07 17:58:07 lemme calculate, 140kb take about 15min, so 1kb tages about 15*60/140 seconds, so 2000kb will be 15*200*60/14 seconds Aug 07 17:58:31 wu fuck Aug 07 17:58:36 214minutes Aug 07 17:59:00 darn, 3.5h of flashing Aug 07 17:59:38 x29a: yes jtag isn't the fastest thing - but hey if it will work it shuld be worth the time ;) Aug 07 18:00:25 thats for sure Aug 07 18:00:33 anything productive is worth the time Aug 07 18:00:45 and if its just for "well, hh wont boot directly" Aug 07 18:01:01 allthough pb__ thought it would Aug 07 18:01:05 im confident Aug 07 18:01:17 x29a: well for the wiki and for knowledge it would be also good if it will fail Aug 07 18:01:31 no Aug 07 18:01:34 NO Aug 07 18:01:41 u didnt even think that! Aug 07 18:01:49 x29a: ok Aug 07 18:01:49 would be awesome if it worked Aug 07 18:01:54 for everybody Aug 07 18:02:18 x29a: yes - but if it will fail we can find out how to let it boot Aug 07 18:02:35 x29a: for knowledge this would be a good start Aug 07 18:02:49 to be honest, its great that jtag worked this time (poor jornada) but im not that lowlevel guy Aug 07 18:04:18 x29a: just for intest which operating system the guy who bought your simpad wanted to get flashed? Aug 07 18:04:32 it was the one who asked the question Aug 07 18:04:39 hpc2000, 3.0ger Aug 07 18:04:45 brr Aug 07 18:04:52 x29a: wow Aug 07 18:05:10 x29a: thats not a good choice Aug 07 18:05:23 no one an opinion on whether we should change depmod -A into depmod -a ??? Aug 07 18:05:24 well, for somebody who is in need of real office apps Aug 07 18:06:02 eFfeM-away: you have my vote :) Aug 07 18:06:16 eFfeM-away: propose it to the OE mailinglist and/or bugtracker Aug 07 18:06:44 x29a: hopefully microsoft will allow to share the images Aug 07 18:06:50 ok, will do; hope a non oe mailing list member can write to it Aug 07 18:07:03 actually maybe I should get myself on the list .... Aug 07 18:07:30 mr_nice_slacker: well authorization is pending, and we wont be too loud ay? Aug 07 18:08:33 btw is CIA sick again ? did a push an hour or so ago Aug 07 18:09:11 x29a: they just don't answer - i only got one replay with a weblink to check - there was no information i could use . than i replayed and told that she sould post my request to the right person. since that i didn't got any respond. Aug 07 18:09:32 thats fine with me Aug 07 18:09:41 i guess they are not into simpad/ce3 anymore Aug 07 18:10:06 gone again Aug 07 18:10:44 x29a: the ce3 images are no problem cause simens payed for oem. but the 4.0 for CL4 class and the 4.1 for SL4 class are the problem Aug 07 18:10:54 x29a: the 4.0 one could also be a bit dangourus Aug 07 18:11:21 should we link to the poland-site instead? Aug 07 18:11:28 x29a: i don't know Aug 07 18:11:43 x29a: i wait until microsoft will answer Aug 07 18:11:47 k Aug 07 18:11:49 thats the best Aug 07 18:13:03 x29a: but the downloades could kill me later - to many peoples have downloaded it. this legal stuff is bullshit. linking to the poland site won't be more legal i think Aug 07 18:13:31 why not?even google links there, doesnt it? Aug 07 18:14:14 x29a: in germay you don't have the right to link to copy protected stuff Aug 07 18:14:30 i dont mean directlink Aug 07 18:14:38 but mention the possibility to get the stuff there Aug 07 18:14:44 and distance from external contents Aug 07 18:14:49 disclaimer n stuff Aug 07 18:14:49 x29a: well no clue about that Aug 07 18:15:05 x29a: disclaimers won't work in germay as well Aug 07 18:16:15 x29a: but i want to have served the windows users. i think most of them will migrate to linux Aug 07 18:16:28 hopefully Aug 07 18:16:48 x29a: cause there are no wpa stuff in wince and 4.2 costs to much Aug 07 18:17:23 x29a: there is even more software for linux as for wince Aug 07 18:19:41 x29a: and 4.2 gets old as well. i have read on simons page that he is not able to build a newer version of win ce for the simpad cause microsoft changed the support for sa1110 Aug 07 18:21:35 eFfeM-away: the ciabot wasn't sicks, but the nslu2 server has trouble syncing again Aug 07 18:24:09 mr_nice_slacker: is the 4.2 somewhere around? Aug 07 18:24:16 or just at mullengers? Aug 07 18:24:22 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rbae05c89... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages.bb: moved memtester to the working packages Aug 07 18:24:33 hey pH5 Aug 07 18:24:37 Hi! Aug 07 18:24:49 mtn: updating along branch 'org.openembedded.dev' Aug 07 18:24:49 hi Aug 07 18:24:49 mtn: selected update target a215524bc68709c948773354aab3283121aed094 Aug 07 18:24:49 mtn: warning: rename target conflict: nodes 2147483657, 16772, both want parent 12, name acct Aug 07 18:24:49 mtn: warning: rename target conflict: nodes 2147483664, 16777, both want parent 16209, name bootstrap-image-bootchart.bb Aug 07 18:24:49 mtn: warning: resolve non-content conflicts and then try again. Aug 07 18:24:51 mtn: error: merge failed due to unresolved conflicts Aug 07 18:25:22 No mentioning what is "rename target conflict" in mtn manual, no single occurance found by google. Aug 07 18:25:28 How to resolve? Aug 07 18:26:03 it seems you committed a file that someone else committed as well Aug 07 18:26:06 mr_nice_slacker: check this out: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/vega-umpc Aug 07 18:26:17 koen hm what is the policy? I changed I file where kergoth is mentioned as maintainer Aug 07 18:26:24 Those are files I added to get diff to submit patch, and now it is committed. Aug 07 18:26:45 psokolovsky: mtn drop -e them? Aug 07 18:26:46 koen: would deleting my copies do the trick? Aug 07 18:26:53 koen: ok Aug 07 18:27:02 x29a: sorry i was a bit afk - mom Aug 07 18:28:03 x29a: yes there is a 4.2 at mullengers.com Aug 07 18:28:11 but nowhere for free or? Aug 07 18:28:14 x29a: it cost about 90 Euro Aug 07 18:28:25 x29a: it is windws ;) Aug 07 18:29:12 x29a: the device is cool - but i thik i can't affort it Aug 07 18:29:29 neither can i Aug 07 18:29:50 x29a: so we have to improove the simpad stuff ;) Aug 07 18:30:20 thats for sure (workin on it, right now) Aug 07 18:30:48 x29a: with a bit of luck i will have enought mony that month to buy that usbhost chip and start workin on it Aug 07 18:31:05 mr_nice_slacker: sl811 ? Aug 07 18:31:16 mr_nice_slacker: or the philips one? Aug 07 18:31:42 koen: Ok, thanks, that seemed to work. Aug 07 18:31:47 koen: philips one Aug 07 18:31:50 koen:ISP1161 Aug 07 18:32:06 koen: on reichelt.de the chip is called so Aug 07 18:33:16 mr_nice_slacker: that's a pretty nice chip Aug 07 18:33:22 koen: the chip looks good - the simpad has the needed pins - you will be able to use it parallel to the pcmcia Aug 07 18:33:25 iirc prpplague want to use that in the pixter as well Aug 07 18:33:26 koen: yes Aug 07 18:33:39 koen: hopefully i will be able to add it to the simpad Aug 07 18:33:59 koen: would be verry cool to habe usbhost support Aug 07 18:34:39 -b +v Aug 07 18:35:18 koen: do you have experiences with that chip? Aug 07 18:35:26 mr_nice_slacker: nope, just heard of it Aug 07 18:35:32 I do have a ratoc cfu1u Aug 07 18:37:12 koen: i have read that for the philips one ther will be a working linux driver. so i have hopes that i will be able to change it to work with the simpad. but i have to learn a lot about driver stuff first - i think. Aug 07 18:38:38 koen: i have never written a kernel space driver - but i will try to get the needed knowledge - it only could take a "bit" Aug 07 18:39:03 koen: what about the radioc ? is there a working driver? Aug 07 18:45:43 x29a: on your simpad - do you also have this effect: open a draw programm. draw with the pen. getting "false" drawings (escapers). As it is on the wince 3.0 images. on 4.0 images this effect isn't there Aug 07 18:45:50 yes, it's very well supported by 2.6 Aug 07 18:46:08 koen: good to know Aug 07 18:46:32 mr_nice_slacker: yeah, jumping to the middle left border Aug 07 18:46:36 x29a: i thik the 4.0 driver filters the effect Aug 07 18:46:40 mr_nice_slacker: touchscreen driver sucks Aug 07 18:47:05 x29a: well - a bit; Aug 07 18:47:25 x29a: i think on smaller devices this effect is not that often Aug 07 18:47:38 i think Marex over in hh.org somehow found a workaround Aug 07 18:47:50 x29a: filtering? Aug 07 18:48:00 cant remember Aug 07 18:48:53 x29a: on the windows images the calibration tool waits a while until it gets to the next one - i think it remebers the stuff to filter better Aug 07 18:49:11 x29a: and you get a smouther pen feeling Aug 07 18:50:10 x29a: you had a jordana - is it also on smaller devices? Aug 07 18:50:25 mr_nice_slacker: write a tslib plugin to filter it Aug 07 18:50:34 mr_nice_slacker: or load the appropriate existing one :) Aug 07 18:50:50 koen: :) any link? Aug 07 18:51:05 mr_nice_slacker: no smaller devices are fine (im still running a fsc pocket loox610bt) Aug 07 18:52:01 mr_nice_slacker: the tslib source in your WORKDIR has the docs you need Aug 07 18:52:05 koen I understood from rod that the nslu2 server can't sync if the db is locked/in use Aug 07 18:52:19 koen: thx Aug 07 18:52:25 eFfeM-away: and as I said to rod before, use an extra db for that Aug 07 18:53:05 eFfeM-away: oe uses 3 dbs: one for 'mnt serve', one for the ciabot and one for viewmtn Aug 07 18:53:28 eFfeM-away: ewi546 uses 2 dbs: one for 'mtn serve' and one for 'mtn sync' Aug 07 18:54:00 Can monotone, when facing a conflict, just put a conflict markers into file a let me use my satnadrd editor to deal with that? I don't have 3-way mergers and such funky stuff, and would prefer not to have ;-) Aug 07 18:54:17 psokolovsky: after 21 augustus Aug 07 18:54:34 koen: lol Aug 07 18:54:36 koen, if you haven't been able to convince rod, I don't think i can ... Aug 07 18:54:41 psokolovsky: they have a google summer of code project for that: workspace merge Aug 07 18:54:53 koen: ok...... Aug 07 18:56:23 psokolovsky: try asking njs when he's awake :) Aug 07 18:57:09 koen: ok. will try to pick up something tty-only in the meantime (and let that be not vim ;-) ) Aug 07 18:57:34 iirc emacs can do it Aug 07 19:00:14 heh Aug 07 19:00:15 http://davyd.livejournal.com/189538.html Aug 07 19:00:24 that would be cute for OE as well :) Aug 07 19:09:18 lrg: ping? Aug 07 19:09:28 RP:pong Aug 07 19:10:06 mr_nice_slacker: its happily flashing, ill try to sleep a lil and come back later Aug 07 19:10:14 lrg: I just tried pre7 on poodle - the alsamixer/alsactl processes hang when I try to turn on the hifi output mixer :-/ Aug 07 19:10:46 RP: :-/ Aug 07 19:11:18 RP: is it waiting on a mutex ? Aug 07 19:11:25 x29a: ok do so - don't know how long i am online today. else just send me a icq message or a botmail Aug 07 19:11:36 mr_nice_slacker: icq will do Aug 07 19:11:42 lrg: Its that kind of symptom Aug 07 19:12:01 x29a: well good night than Aug 07 19:12:05 good fight Aug 07 19:13:07 RP: i had made some changes to cleanup the mutexes for the scenario stuff. I must have created a deadlock in poodle. Aug 07 19:13:49 lrg: Its exactly that kind of symptom. Its only the hifi playback switch that does it... Aug 07 19:14:33 RP: it's probably realated to the dapm. I'll check the code paths Aug 07 19:14:43 lrg: ok, thanks Aug 07 19:15:40 hi all ... has someone time to assist a beginner to solve some, probaby basic problems? Aug 07 19:15:53 the mentioned beginner would be me :-) btw. Aug 07 19:16:43 pgfeller: The best bet is to ask your question Aug 07 19:17:32 I try to create a .bb file for a SW that I maintain - but have some problem to build the kernel module with OE Aug 07 19:17:56 I inherit module - but something with the header seems to be wrong: Aug 07 19:18:10 ~pastbin Aug 07 19:18:28 mhhh ... how can I summon this pastbin list again? Aug 07 19:18:41 ~pastebin Aug 07 19:18:43 pastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/ (BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS), or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/, or http://paste.lisp.org/ for the lisp/scheme nuts Aug 07 19:18:54 keon: thanks :-) Aug 07 19:20:32 @ http://channels.debian.net/paste/3373 are some details Aug 07 19:20:51 "BROKEN AND SUCKING NUTS" ? :-D Aug 07 19:21:37 mwester: did I do something wrong? Aug 07 19:22:02 No - just commenting on the "editorial opinion" expressed by ibot... Aug 07 19:22:13 pgfeller: if they look like the .bbs you added to the bugtracker, they are fundamentally broken Aug 07 19:22:17 mwester: ahh ... I see :-) Aug 07 19:22:55 koen: can you give me some hints what I do wrong & where/which documentation I should consult? Aug 07 19:23:08 >3k examples Aug 07 19:23:29 try looking at the 'documentation' link on the oe site Aug 07 19:24:33 keon: both things I've done ... - maybe this is OE a little to big a thing for me :-( Aug 07 19:25:13 pgfeller: Is this module known to work that kernel verison? Aug 07 19:25:25 pgfeller: but @ lest both .bb's produced the libs/code I needed to test @ the device Aug 07 19:26:11 pgfeller: you intentionally zero out methods critical to OE operation Aug 07 19:26:19 re Aug 07 19:26:21 like do_install, do_stage and do_package Aug 07 19:26:24 zecke: wb Aug 07 19:26:26 rp: with my x-compiler environment I can build it for ARMxCompiler-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh41 & ARMxCompiler-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh37 Aug 07 19:27:07 pgfeller: You'd best work out why it does't seem t like the kernel header files then... Aug 07 19:27:09 koen: was aware of those two - but for libvncserver I only need to stage (I thought) to provide the .a for the subsequent packages ... Aug 07 19:27:21 hi zecke Aug 07 19:27:33 hi zecke Aug 07 19:28:16 & x11vnc .bb was just to produce the x11vnc bin to perform some tests for the author - so it's only partial (though I mentioned it). Aug 07 19:28:56 koen: I feel dutch now... I'm about to fix/assemble my bike Aug 07 19:29:20 RP: Hi! Glad to catch you here. Could you look at http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3738/1 ? Aug 07 19:29:27 zecke: if you were german you would steal a dutch one Aug 07 19:29:55 koen: is that some kind of "east border" joke? Aug 07 19:30:08 koen: In germany all bikes get stollen by hrw's mates Aug 07 19:30:19 koen: until they are in china Aug 07 19:30:35 koen: and now, who steals them from the chinese? Aug 07 19:30:48 zecke: at the end of WOII germans stole our bikes to flee back to germany Aug 07 19:31:02 it's a very old and cheesy joke Aug 07 19:31:40 "aber zuerst mijn Fahrrad terug" as some people would say Aug 07 19:32:15 hehe Aug 07 19:32:56 psokolovsky: Interesting. I hadn't noticed this :). I've also never seen a timeout occur on a zaurus before :) Aug 07 19:34:54 RP: Lucky you ;-) . So, could you look over the patch, and possibly add comment to the patch, or tell me if you think something needs to be done specifically to corgi_ssp.c. I just don't want to patch it heavily as I can't test it or know how it is used now. Aug 07 19:36:27 psokolovsky: I'm happy enough for it to be applied. I can try and fix up the error handling in the corgi code in due course I guess Aug 07 19:36:47 The way corgi uses it, error handling is going to be tricky though :-/ Aug 07 19:38:18 RP: Ok, thanks. I'd appreciate if you could add comment about that, as Russell likely accept your word far easier than mine. ;-) Aug 07 19:39:25 koen: not only dutch bikes - polish ones too ;D Aug 07 19:39:52 RP: nothing obvious from the code. It's also fine on mainstone ? Would you be able to enable detect soft lockups at some point and see what it dumps out. Aug 07 19:40:22 lrg: softlockups is running Aug 07 19:40:37 RP: ah, interesting. Aug 07 19:40:49 lrg: The device doesn't totally lock, just that alsamixer/alsactl process hangs Aug 07 19:41:05 I can still ssh in Aug 07 19:41:18 one day I will take poodle from drawer and install OZ 3.5.4.2-rc0 on it Aug 07 19:42:40 RP: I wonder is something is left over from scenario........ checking Aug 07 19:43:05 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc1b75f6f... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): cups: synchronize with latest fixes from .dev Aug 07 19:43:11 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rcee1cf17... 10/ (1 packages/wpa-supplicant/wpa-gui_0.4.8.bb): wpa-gui: make it RDEPEND on wpa-supplicant as it is unusable without it Aug 07 19:43:17 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r7de50460... 10/ (1 classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): rootfs_ipk.bbclass: changed naming of locale feeds from 'locale{en}' to 'locale-en' Aug 07 19:43:21 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r90ffc34a... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): qemu(-native): added 0.8.1 from .dev, moved gcc check to qemu.inc Aug 07 19:43:32 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r458aed91... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.2.0.bb): gpe-conf: fixed DEPENDS: s/esound/esound-gpe Aug 07 19:43:33 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd0cf3c11... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf): oz 3.5.4.conf: removed feed info as it conflicted with newer versions (dont know why) Aug 07 19:43:40 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r6ece316d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oz conf: bumped some of GPE stuff Aug 07 19:44:07 one day I will start to use pluck Aug 07 19:44:49 tmbinc_: did I say that dreambox looks nice from user point of view? Aug 07 19:45:54 hrw: pluck really shows that granular commit pay off Aug 07 19:45:58 commits* Aug 07 19:46:57 koen: rule #1 in FOSS world: keep changes separated/make separate patches. KISS in other words. Aug 07 19:46:58 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rdc69aab0... 10/ (1 conf/machine/poodle.conf): poodle: 2.6 kernel by default Aug 07 19:47:20 RP: I committed the change to udev local.rules for /dev/touchscreen0 to .dev while you were going in circles Aug 07 19:47:41 brb Aug 07 19:47:55 hrw: does it? :) Aug 07 19:48:23 i've never *really* managed to completely ignore the developer's point of view, unfortunately. Aug 07 19:48:38 hi Aug 07 19:48:51 hey florian Aug 07 19:49:12 koen: shouldn't the package name reflect the release instead of the binary abi version? Aug 07 19:50:46 florian: yes, but mimedir up'ed ABI inside a release... Aug 07 19:51:23 florian: remember the tarball sebastian made a while ago Aug 07 19:51:40 koen: there is no 0.4.0 relese iirc, only 0.3.0 and 0.3.1 Aug 07 19:52:37 ah well Aug 07 19:52:50 too late to turn back :( Aug 07 19:53:06 (and it's not likely that mimedir will get a release) Aug 07 19:53:21 sad but true :-( Aug 07 19:57:54 versioning with libool is broken somehow anyway... Aug 07 19:58:17 tmbinc_: my cousin bought dm7020, added 20G hdd and enjoy it (with sat changer) Aug 07 19:58:50 tmbinc_: one day he will maybe learn how to redirect ports on his wrt so will be able to save tv series for coworkers Aug 07 19:59:39 * zecke wants a MacPro Aug 07 19:59:44 RP: found it. I had left something important in the scenario patch doh :( Aug 07 20:00:01 RP: I'm moving it to asoc.patch now Aug 07 20:00:55 zecke: really? I'd prefer PowerPCs at any time. Aug 07 20:01:43 lrg: ok, thanks :) Aug 07 20:02:10 tmbinc_: it is 800 bucks cheaper Aug 07 20:02:28 tmbinc_: I'm writing this on a MacIntel... but I hate the intel architecture Aug 07 20:02:36 I really hate it, I prefer POWER as well Aug 07 20:02:51 at least the multi core IP is coming from IBM/Power Aug 07 20:04:30 zaurus-updater conflict with rm_work ;( Aug 07 20:05:05 hrw: yes, rm_work needs to move into BitBake Aug 07 20:05:22 NOTE: package zaurus-updater-1.0-r7: task do_build: completed Aug 07 20:05:59 BTW: woglinde is a certified POWER expert Aug 07 20:06:33 zecke: all qualifications to press POWER button? Aug 07 20:06:33 How does it conflict? Aug 07 20:06:48 RP: the task is executed too early Aug 07 20:06:56 RP: do_package/do_rm_work/do_deploy Aug 07 20:07:14 RP: now its do_deploy/do_package/do_rm_work (pushed fix) Aug 07 20:07:21 hrw: yes. He can even remotely press the POWER button Aug 07 20:07:31 hrw: and can configure the ifive OS properly... Aug 07 20:07:42 hrw: Ah, right, good as that was a bug :) Aug 07 20:07:59 zecke: nice Aug 07 20:08:08 zecke: I also figured out the difference between di_stage and do_populate_staging Aug 07 20:08:19 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r41767e97... 10/ (1 packages/zaurus-updater/zaurus-updater.bb): zaurus-updater: move do_deploy so it does not conflict with rm_work Aug 07 20:08:20 yes? Aug 07 20:08:26 * RP would like to know too... Aug 07 20:08:39 zecke: do_p_s selects between do_manifest and do_stage Aug 07 20:09:06 the bug in base.bbclass is that it tries to add do_stage somewhere Aug 07 20:09:10 koen: do_stage() prepare to package staging and do_populate_staging use packages to populate staging? Aug 07 20:09:13 ah, manifest rears its head again... Aug 07 20:09:26 luckily 'somewhere' is oblivion right now Aug 07 20:10:04 someone want to test OZ 3.5.4.2-rc0? Aug 07 20:10:12 hrw: tinderbox html is *ugly* Aug 07 20:10:24 koen: tinderbox code is ugly too Aug 07 20:10:33 koen: OE one too and OE bugtracker either Aug 07 20:10:34 zecke: duh...., it's perl Aug 07 20:10:58 hrw: yeah, we try to keep the oe html as ugly as possible Aug 07 20:11:15 Perl - The only language that looks the same before and after RSA encryption. Aug 07 20:12:03 koen: http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/timemachine.html Aug 07 20:12:17 koen: Could you look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1277 - missing file from previous commit. Aug 07 20:13:12 psokolovsky: I replied to the arm patch system Aug 07 20:13:29 kergoth ping! Aug 07 20:13:45 RP: See that, thanks much! Aug 07 20:14:56 hrw: It was the 2.6.17 kernel that was out of sync? Aug 07 20:15:19 hrw: or the 2.6.16 locomo patches? Aug 07 20:15:38 RP: .16 locomo patches Aug 07 20:16:04 koen: leopard kicks ass! Aug 07 20:16:35 woglinde: pong Aug 07 20:16:52 g'day kergoth Aug 07 20:16:55 zecke: yeah, the transpartant VCS is cute Aug 07 20:17:07 zecke: but vapourware till 2007 Aug 07 20:17:17 kergoth he you are mentioned as the zlib maintainer, I swtichted zlib to autotools becaus otherwise it is ugly to maintain Aug 07 20:17:37 so my questions is, if i can check in Aug 07 20:17:48 good, go for it. Aug 07 20:17:49 03pmiscml 07org.oe.dev * r7d732337... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): bootchart: add missing patch Aug 07 20:18:05 psokolovsky: there you go, I missed it at the first commit Aug 07 20:18:05 someone should do a new configure.ac for jpeg, since it shipped wit ha configure but no configure.{in,ac} Aug 07 20:18:41 kergoth I bumped PR should I add me to maintainers? Aug 07 20:19:11 and I like cleanup the older versions Aug 07 20:19:12 go ahead and put yourself as maintainer, i havent touched it in ages Aug 07 20:19:28 i'll likely be picking up maintainance of some things now that i'm back, but you're welcome to it Aug 07 20:19:31 kergoth: slightly less bad is shipping a configure.ac + hand-edited configure .... Aug 07 20:19:39 * kergoth shivers Aug 07 20:19:44 koen: tx Aug 07 20:19:44 kergoth okay Aug 07 20:19:47 only slightly :) Aug 07 20:21:12 woglinde: congrats! Aug 07 20:21:27 woglinde: now that you are a maintainer Aug 07 20:21:42 lol Aug 07 20:21:49 woglinde: if you build -native packages write a do_check() {} that executes make check/test Aug 07 20:21:49 hehe Aug 07 20:21:56 g'night Aug 07 20:22:01 woglinde: immediately! and for cross packages Aug 07 20:22:02 n8 mickey|zzZZzz Aug 07 20:22:40 woglinde: make do_check() package the check app + a little script to execute the script :) Aug 07 20:22:40 zecke hm Aug 07 20:22:55 :) Aug 07 20:22:55 zecke any example? Aug 07 20:23:02 woglinde: you will be the first! Aug 07 20:23:06 pfff Aug 07 20:23:25 first I will cleanup the zlib dir Aug 07 20:23:26 woglinde: gmp-native has an example on executing make test (on OSX) Aug 07 20:23:29 right Aug 07 20:23:56 hm one more question Aug 07 20:24:11 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb54bb5e5... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Aug 07 20:24:11 libvncserver add 0.8.2, remove older ones. Aug 07 20:24:11 patch based on bug #1281, thanks gfellerpatrik@gmx.net Aug 07 20:24:19 the files-directoy in a packages-dir is old directive? Aug 07 20:24:37 preffered is packagename-version/? Aug 07 20:25:02 woglinde: I use 'files' when a patch works for more than one version Aug 07 20:25:14 okay Aug 07 20:25:16 hm Aug 07 20:25:20 woglinde: for really version specific stuff I create the dir... Aug 07 20:25:24 okay Aug 07 20:25:26 I guess Aug 07 20:25:44 the zlib-autotoo.patch will work on now and above Aug 07 20:25:57 hm Aug 07 20:26:05 but I can switch it later Aug 07 20:28:13 03rpurdie 07org.oe.oz354x * r858f503c... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz-2.6.16: Sync with .dev. Mostly patch classification but also simplification of the locomo patches Aug 07 20:28:34 THX RP Aug 07 20:29:01 hrw: np :) Aug 07 20:29:17 I'm holding off 2.6.17 updates until we get ASoC working properly Aug 07 20:31:00 RP: sending pre8 in 2 mins...... Aug 07 20:31:18 lrg: exactly :) Aug 07 20:31:23 greetings ! Aug 07 20:31:30 hi Ifaistos Aug 07 20:31:30 hey Ifaistos Aug 07 20:32:18 RP : Hi Aug 07 20:32:21 koen : Hi Aug 07 20:32:28 rp: hi Aug 07 20:32:40 how are things moving in OE land ? Aug 07 20:33:05 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r3380e70f... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): libgpepimc: add 0.8, drop ancient versions Aug 07 20:33:05 A lot faster with the new monotone :) Aug 07 20:33:09 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r0d6a6743... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): libmimedir: Add a tested cvs version and additional patches. Aug 07 20:33:14 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r24a6691e... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): libcontactsdb: add 0.5, drop old versions Aug 07 20:33:20 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * re85958ac... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): libtododb: Add 0.10, drop old releases. Aug 07 20:33:25 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r4a04d03e... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): gpe-todo: add 0.56, drop ancient stuff Aug 07 20:33:46 heh, indeed... like you see ;) Aug 07 20:34:38 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r62513fdc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb): linux-oz-2.6.16: Reclassify some patches after mainline merges Aug 07 20:34:49 RP : That's good :) between preparing for my weading, moving to a new office, and jugling 3 projects i am somewhat behind Aug 07 20:39:00 mickey|zzZZzz: did you add pb yet? Aug 07 20:39:34 zecke: that's hard without a key Aug 07 20:39:34 pb is planning to start committing again? :) Aug 07 20:40:05 * koen wonders why people find http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/MonotonePhraseBook too hard to follow Aug 07 20:40:26 RP: koen : pb just sent a key to mickeyl and cc'ed me Aug 07 20:40:29 go cia-bot Aug 07 20:40:40 koen: The link to the snapshots on the getting started page still doesn't work btw Aug 07 20:41:26 RP: ' wget http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2' works for me Aug 07 20:41:28 03woglinde 07org.oe.dev * r6724fbc7... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Aug 07 20:41:28 zlib-1.2.3: -made zlib uses autotools, that introduced autotools.patch and Aug 07 20:41:28 make libtool_staging.patch and sane-target.patch obsolete Aug 07 20:41:28 -adding myself as maintainer after talked with kergoth Aug 07 20:41:28 -simplify zlib_1.2.3.bb Aug 07 20:41:45 zecke: tell me, is the phrasebook that hard to follow? Aug 07 20:41:52 koen: The colon in the url turned into a percentage escape character in my browser Aug 07 20:42:41 This VNC session is totally broken and needs X restarting so I can't access the web with it atm :-/ Aug 07 20:42:51 koen: yes, Aug 07 20:42:57 zecke: why? Aug 07 20:43:01 zecke: and fix it Aug 07 20:43:08 zecke: CC: me and I'll add the key Aug 07 20:43:13 koen: basicly you can't have commit access when you just created the key Aug 07 20:44:30 koen: actually this mtn-add thing is pretty good Aug 07 20:46:16 koen: sent Aug 07 20:48:11 zecke: key added Aug 07 20:48:25 pb_: welcome back! master! Aug 07 20:52:45 wb pb_ :) Aug 07 20:53:21 koen: Whats the status of the -dbg packages? Aug 07 20:54:12 poushag: the biggest 'issue' with OE on OSX is: Aug 07 20:54:21 poushag: you need a case sensitive filesystem Aug 07 20:54:24 or DMG Aug 07 20:54:59 RP: less spurious debug inside packages after a brief look Aug 07 20:55:30 koen: ok, good :). We just need to find any problematic ones I guess Aug 07 20:55:40 and the FILES lines for those should be easy to fix Aug 07 20:56:52 RP: and recipes that zap PACKAGES and FILES are problematic Aug 07 20:57:15 zecke: yay! Aug 07 20:57:21 ~fsck anyone who want to build poodle/2.4 from .oz354x Aug 07 20:57:21 koen: Right, they will need fixing Aug 07 20:57:23 e2fsck /dev/anyone who want to build poodle/2.4 from .oz354x : warning! filesystem contains idiots! Aug 07 20:58:08 SRC_URI_OVERRIDES_PACKAGE_ARCH - someone know it? Aug 07 20:59:38 lrg: Good and bad news. pre8 fixes the mixer lockup but the static is still there Aug 07 21:00:23 RP: :-( Aug 07 21:01:40 lrg: The speaker on/off problem also still exists - the control doesn't match the speaker status :-( Aug 07 21:02:59 03woglinde 07org.oe.dev * rd524d2cc... 10/ (1 packages/zlib/zlib-native_1.2.3.bb): Aug 07 21:02:59 zli/zlib-native_1.2.3.bb: after switching zlib to autotools the darwin hack isn't Aug 07 21:02:59 needed anymore, thanks zecke for testing Aug 07 21:03:27 koen: update 'people' page... Aug 07 21:03:47 hrw: go ahead :) Aug 07 21:04:26 there was an OE based distro for a myth look-alike system. does anyone have the url handy ? Aug 07 21:04:42 Ifaistos: dreambox? Aug 07 21:05:01 hrw: you should have an 'edit' tab on the people page Aug 07 21:05:09 hrw : not the db one. it was for the Epia Aug 07 21:05:58 * zecke should submit a news story about OE and OSX Aug 07 21:06:25 koen: I'm lazy too much to start browser Aug 07 21:06:28 zecke: please do Aug 07 21:06:46 RP: ok, i'll add some debug for poodle. Need to speak with hw enginners about static noise. Aug 07 21:06:49 hrw: I guess we'll have to wait for you to stop being lazy :) Aug 07 21:07:20 NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r22: task do_build: completed Aug 07 21:07:36 someone want to test OZ 3.5.4.2-rc0 on poodle or tosa? Aug 07 21:07:55 lrg: The mute bit is still being held off - I thought you said it was going to apply immediately? Aug 07 21:08:59 RP: i though i had, maybe I've missed something again :( Aug 07 21:09:13 RP: will check the logic path Aug 07 21:09:20 I have 'Zaurus pile' on desk now Aug 07 21:09:26 lrg: Its definetly delayed Aug 07 21:11:56 lrg: I've summarised the issues by email. I think we're close though :) Aug 07 21:12:40 RP: sorry it's missing. I did this at the station and obviosly did sync the patch when the train arrived. Aug 07 21:12:47 didn't Aug 07 21:13:02 lrg: np, I thought it would be something simple :) Aug 07 21:13:21 Its the speaker issue that worries me more :-/ Aug 07 21:13:39 RP: oh, i still need to get the i2c id's. will do tomorrow. Aug 07 21:14:04 lrg: I've just realised I need to fix up locomo as well. I'll make sure to take care of that Aug 07 21:14:15 RP: thanks :) Aug 07 21:16:55 http://hrw.one.pl/tmp/PICT0002.JPG - Zaurus pile Aug 07 21:18:33 hrw: I have something similar here :) Aug 07 21:19:00 collie, ipaq, poodle, c7x0 and spitz :-/ Aug 07 21:19:14 collie left in drawer Aug 07 21:28:07 NOTE: package opie-image-1.0-r20: task do_build: completed Aug 07 21:28:13 poodle build also finished Aug 07 21:28:19 hrw fine Aug 07 21:30:37 187 revs... Aug 07 21:31:30 gpe is still failing Aug 07 21:31:34 see tinderbox :) Aug 07 21:32:57 NOTE: package gpe-aerial-0.2.13-r0: task do_build: completed Aug 07 21:39:56 night to all Aug 07 21:40:39 night ifaistos Aug 07 21:50:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8e90244a... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/task-angstrom.bb): task-angstrom: ship missing pcmciautils, spotted by zeenix Aug 07 21:51:57 ALL: OpenZaurus 3.5.4.2-rc0 shipped (for tosa and poodle) Aug 07 21:52:09 cool Aug 07 21:53:06 hrw: nice work :) Aug 07 21:55:02 grats :) Aug 07 22:00:15 hmm.. I should atleast flash them to test does they work... Aug 07 22:02:07 'Support for those machines needs some love and hard work but machines are more usable then they were under 2.4-crapix kernel.' - is it quite correct english? Aug 07 22:02:51 work but Aug 07 22:03:08 and I'd say "far more usable" Aug 07 22:03:18 ok Aug 07 22:03:19 but I'm not a native speaker Aug 07 22:03:28 neither do I Aug 07 22:05:03 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/08/07/first-official-version-of-openzaurus-with-26-kernel-for-tosa-poodle/ Aug 07 22:07:14 hrw next step in getting rid auf gcc-3.3 Aug 07 22:07:15 *g* Aug 07 22:07:19 for kernels Aug 07 22:07:27 woglinde: I use 3.4.4 for kernels Aug 07 22:07:41 hm Aug 07 22:07:56 so simpad is the last which uses gcc-3.3 Aug 07 22:09:46 do13: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/ReleaseNotes/Oz3542#Tosa Aug 07 22:11:00 nite all Aug 07 22:14:30 my first poodle flashing.. Aug 07 22:23:33 'night all Aug 07 22:23:58 n8 RP Aug 07 22:31:47 Kerwood: hello Aug 07 22:33:15 I hear that collie is getting a 2.6 kernel, does this mean we finally have support for the sd card on these devices for 2.6 kernel? Aug 07 22:33:24 no Aug 07 22:33:28 heh Aug 07 22:33:38 um... wouldn't that be rather useless then? Aug 07 22:33:50 but people are asking 'when will collie/2.6 images be available for testing' so they will get them Aug 07 22:34:20 hrw: I see. Is there any good work being done on the sd driver? Aug 07 22:34:30 not yet Aug 07 22:34:33 maybe kergoth will have some time+motivation to expand teh SD bits Aug 07 22:35:03 Well, it doesn't make a difference to me, my collie got stolen, now I just need enough money for an akita :-) Aug 07 22:35:14 koen: the 'if collie will get working 2.6 kernel, then I will try to write SD/MMC driver for it' quote? Aug 07 22:35:28 my collie gather dust in drawer Aug 07 22:35:43 koen: does angstrom ship altboot? Aug 07 22:35:44 hrw: I loved my collie... I was very sad to lose it. Aug 07 22:35:53 Zero_Chaos: understoof Aug 07 22:35:55 Zero_Chaos: understood Aug 07 22:36:15 hrw: no Aug 07 22:36:21 hrw: do you have another zaurus you use that does not gather dust? Aug 07 22:36:33 Zero_Chaos: good question ;) Aug 07 22:36:44 hrw: so that is a no then :-) Aug 07 22:36:50 http://hrw.one.pl/tmp/PICT0002.JPG Aug 07 22:37:10 Zero_Chaos: zaurus pile - most of time they gather dust Aug 07 22:37:50 hrw: I use compressed air to remove the dust from time to time :) Aug 07 22:38:00 hrw: those wifi card is a pretec? Aug 07 22:38:08 hrw: collie on top, sl-6000 on bottom, what is in middle? Aug 07 22:38:27 isn't that a poodle? Aug 07 22:38:28 Zero_Chaos: tosa/c760/poodle Aug 07 22:38:33 darkschneider: yes Aug 07 22:38:40 ahh Aug 07 22:38:50 my fault, poodle Aug 07 22:39:17 hrw: eheh exacly same as mine, mine is just dark blue instad of ligth blue Aug 07 22:39:28 now i'm sure my card will be supported :D Aug 07 22:39:32 Zero_Chaos: no cover on i/o port, other case color, transparent cover Aug 07 22:39:49 ahh Aug 07 22:39:57 darkschneider: what chipset? Aug 07 22:40:44 Zero_Chaos: prism2 i think Aug 07 22:41:02 and it a lovely small size low consuption card with pcmci adaptio withit Aug 07 22:41:09 darkschneider: yeah, it will work fine. Aug 07 22:41:22 who can I bug to add some stuff to the oe repo for me :-) Aug 07 22:41:39 Zero_Chaos: know that, it's abotu 2 years it doe snto work anyway :) Aug 07 22:42:47 ~lart sharp for deep hole in poodle reset Aug 07 22:42:48 * ibot does a little 'renice 20 -u sharp' for deep hole in poodle reset Aug 07 22:44:22 Zero_Chaos: add it to the bugtracker Aug 07 22:45:43 pretec wireless openzaurus <--- this in google gives as second link hrw website :) lovely goggle Aug 07 22:46:05 ;D Aug 07 22:56:42 btw does oe uspport Zungsten? Aug 07 22:56:56 Zungsten? Aug 07 22:57:58 typo.. Aug 07 22:58:01 Tungsten Aug 07 23:00:56 iirc palm guys use OE + own stuff not-yet-merged Aug 07 23:07:18 how nice of koen to leave right after saying that. Aug 07 23:07:27 been in bugtracker for months Aug 07 23:08:15 I have to merge modules list from machine configs into distro config Aug 07 23:08:22 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd720eafa... 10/ (14 files in 8 dirs): tslib: finally resolved poodle 2.4/2.6 selection Aug 07 23:15:34 cu Aug 08 00:07:31 'lo **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 08 02:59:56 2006