**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 14 02:59:57 2006 Aug 14 04:01:45 test Aug 14 04:40:04 poushag: not sure what cmd-h does.....I've liked Aquamacs, though. They even fixed a problem I was having in a pretty quick period of time, so it's still being actively developed ^_^ Aug 14 04:40:11 poushag: no, I use a Linux box Aug 14 04:43:38 justinp - check out the oz.org wiki page 'buildonosx' - im trying to make it easy for mac folks to set up and use oe Aug 14 04:44:20 i tried aquamacs btw - too involved for me considering my background with beyond compare and xxdiff Aug 14 04:45:02 but i found kdiff3 is being compiled for osx with each release :) Aug 14 04:50:35 justinp, aquamacs does appear to be more regularly maintained and with better documentation than the other emacs app i pasted earlier - it seems like chances are slim that the one i found is better than what youre using Aug 14 04:55:30 anybody know offhand who maintains the samba package? Aug 14 04:55:41 (for oe) Aug 14 04:56:05 i mean in the .dev branch of oe Aug 14 05:03:19 im trying to read files off the samba share on my z and it keeps disconnecting Aug 14 05:29:07 argh Aug 14 05:29:16 spend like a week ande a half wondering why builds are so damn low each pass Aug 14 05:29:21 forgot to build & install ccache Aug 14 05:48:45 morning all Aug 14 05:50:57 well turns out samba was ok after all - seem vi was eating my ram with on old session that it should have closed out when the wifi connection was broken Aug 14 05:51:30 this is a busybox bug that was supposed to be fixed (since i built and am running 1.2.1) Aug 14 05:52:42 if anybody else wants to check it out, its easy to duplicate - just pull out your wifi card while vi is running Aug 14 06:14:15 well samba may be a bit buggy after all Aug 14 06:14:56 seems that one of the three smbd threads crashed when i tried to read (and copy) a fairly large file Aug 14 06:16:02 only 11mb though so not that large Aug 14 06:16:34 anybody have a problem with samba on the z before? maybe can tell me what limitations or bugs it has? Aug 14 06:39:35 guten tag kinder Aug 14 07:22:10 hi , where do you we have telnet in oe ? Aug 14 07:24:08 rob_w: give busybox a try Aug 14 07:26:15 anyone will be at the LinuxWorldExpo and see ALP? Aug 14 07:30:27 maybe o-hand Aug 14 07:31:04 but they can't give a report? Aug 14 07:31:13 http://www.linuxworldexpo.com/live/12/events/12SFO06A/conference/CC782786 Aug 14 07:31:39 zecke, ah damn forgot about busybox Aug 14 07:32:11 rob_w: but, I think we do not build telnet by default Aug 14 07:32:37 maybe i did as i did my own config some time ago Aug 14 07:35:33 yeah i ve it , thanks zecke Aug 14 07:52:50 morning all Aug 14 07:54:32 morning Aug 14 07:59:22 RP: first time i tried building an image on patched trunk bitbake, it jumped right to the package i wanted to build, skipping all deps. hehe. Aug 14 08:00:20 kergoth: optimisation :-) Aug 14 08:00:31 hehe Aug 14 08:00:56 man, i really need to build a fast dev workstation Aug 14 08:01:09 compile times are a serious issue Aug 14 08:04:13 good morning all Aug 14 08:05:40 kergoth: oops :) Aug 14 08:06:09 :) Aug 14 08:06:15 kergoth: What were you telling it to build? Aug 14 08:06:24 NOTE: Invalid cache found, rebuilding... Aug 14 08:06:35 i think when i get settled in my new place here i'll start putting together a fast box. duel opteron or something Aug 14 08:06:43 RP: oh-image-core in poky Aug 14 08:07:22 Hmm. I just tried that and it started from scratch here... Aug 14 08:08:03 wow Aug 14 08:08:09 bitbake -s is *fast* now Aug 14 08:08:14 RP: cheers Aug 14 08:08:55 koen: I was just looking at that bug report and wondering how someone could call it slow. I guess 1.5 is a bit faster than 1.4 :) Aug 14 08:09:13 1.4 didn't use the cache Aug 14 08:09:29 koen: Ah, that would be slow... Aug 14 08:09:46 time to update sane-srcdates.conf Aug 14 08:09:50 * koen bitbake -s | grep cvs | grep -v opie Aug 14 08:10:44 koen: In the new depends code, we don't load bb files in a load more cases and something like bitbake bootstrap-image is much faster at checking all previously built depends Aug 14 08:11:35 kergoth: I'm puzzled as to why you didn't see the depends get built - its working fine here :-/ Aug 14 08:11:44 hmm, i'll see if i ican repro Aug 14 08:14:25 http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_multithread-r4.patch is the latest code, although I don't think I changed anything critical Aug 14 08:15:31 The diff says the changes from -r3 were cosmetic :-/ Aug 14 08:22:58 hodwy folks Aug 14 08:23:03 howdy even Aug 14 08:23:10 hey Aug 14 08:23:48 kergoth: surely you should be in bed by now, no ? Aug 14 08:24:22 nah, the ohand folks are just waking up :) Aug 14 08:25:22 RP: how many people has mallum hoodwinked into ohand now ? Aug 14 08:28:27 ade|desk: There are 9 employees now... Aug 14 08:29:34 RP: do you get dentil ? Aug 14 08:29:39 dental even Aug 14 08:30:43 ade|desk: no :) Aug 14 08:30:54 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r17f3e8ec... 10/ (1 packages/iputils/iputils_20020927.bb): Aug 14 08:30:54 iputils 20020927: Permissions are not carried over from install to the Aug 14 08:30:54 packages, so for things that need SUID we need to set that in postinst. Add Aug 14 08:30:54 this for ping, ping6 and traceroute6. Also modify that package list so we Aug 14 08:30:54 append instead of replace it. Aug 14 08:35:18 RP: I categorized sane-srcdates into sections, feel free to change those to make merging between poky and OE easier for you Aug 14 08:35:57 koen: ok, thanks. I need to find some time to look at merging soon as things are beginning to lose sync a bit :) Aug 14 08:38:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r926a789c... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane srcdates: try to catch all floating cvs packages (bitbake -s | grep cvs | grep -v opie) and categorize it Aug 14 08:41:49 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r87d22bea... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Aug 14 08:41:49 ndisc6: Add ndisc6 which contains tools for IPV6 neighbor discover, IPV6 Aug 14 08:41:49 router discovery, an IPv4/IPv6 performance measurement tool, and an IPv6 Aug 14 08:41:49 UDP+TCP traceroute implementation. Aug 14 08:50:10 RP: I think static is even worse now :-( Aug 14 08:52:00 good morning Aug 14 08:52:08 good morning Aug 14 08:52:12 hey florian_kc Aug 14 08:56:41 florian_kc: good morning, good morning Aug 14 08:58:08 heh Aug 14 08:58:09 oops Aug 14 08:59:34 koen: monotone.oe.org is sick mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting Aug 14 09:01:55 XorA: worked for me ~3 mins ago Aug 14 09:02:23 ade|desk: it worked for a pull, sync killed it Aug 14 09:02:40 ade|desk: and is giving that error everytime now Aug 14 09:03:48 doh Aug 14 09:07:50 XorA: not good. Best talk to Liam I guess... Aug 14 09:08:37 RP: I shall have to try and get machine into his hands this week Aug 14 09:19:02 XorA: ok, sounds good. I should also try and do some testing. I didn't get as much done as I wanted this weekend. Got too addicted to bitbake hacking... Aug 14 09:19:56 RP: heh heh, I was being social Aug 14 09:27:44 i've some pb of INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP Aug 14 09:28:07 i just tarbzipped a linux kernel ; make a bb file to compile it Aug 14 09:28:34 i read http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OeFaq Aug 14 09:29:23 but no way Aug 14 09:30:24 could i install the package by hand and go ahead ? Aug 14 09:34:25 hi all! Aug 14 09:36:00 has anyone seen arm-eabi-ld (from binutils 2.17) segfault while linking the kernel (I use 2.6.17.1, will try with git asap)? Aug 14 09:40:21 koobla: I haven't seen that yet Aug 14 09:40:53 the linker segfaults after reading in the libraries. Aug 14 09:41:03 did a complete recompile, no change... Aug 14 09:41:13 (of the kernel, not the linker...) Aug 14 09:41:22 bad ram? Aug 14 09:41:48 hm, could be. although the machine's running for 2 years now Aug 14 09:50:21 ~seen zecke Aug 14 09:50:27 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2h 18m 16s ago, saying: 'rob_w: but, I think we do not build telnet by default'. Aug 14 09:53:08 morning all Aug 14 09:53:19 lrg: morning Aug 14 09:53:57 hi Liam Aug 14 09:54:01 wb zecke Aug 14 09:54:06 hi lrg Aug 14 09:59:13 lrg: I have you latest patch on the machine Aug 14 09:59:22 lrg: still getting static Aug 14 09:59:50 XorA: damn. can you do the debug ? Aug 14 10:00:26 XorA: enable POP_DEBUG in soc-dapm.c and listen for when the static occurs Aug 14 10:00:37 lrg: not sure how I can differentiate between 500ms pauses Aug 14 10:00:53 lrg: but satic is starting from termination of sound until 5s is up Aug 14 10:01:12 lrg: unless I misunderstood your email Aug 14 10:01:37 XorA: ah, ok. I'll speak with hw engineer again. He's just back from holiday today. Aug 14 10:01:49 lrg: ah re-read it, youve put artificial extra pauses in? Aug 14 10:02:32 XorA: not yet, I had a rethink and was hoping the hp mute would do the trick. Aug 14 10:03:01 lrg: well if he want to hear the sounds get him to grab me tomorrow morning Aug 14 10:03:24 XorA: will do. Thanks Aug 14 10:03:55 * XorA must remember to make up some excuse for his work :-) Aug 14 10:25:10 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r2957eac4... 10/ (1 packages/xmms/files/xmms.sh packages/xmms/xmms_1.2.10.bb): Aug 14 10:25:10 xmms_1.2.10.bb : add an icon and .desktop file for xmms Aug 14 10:25:10 Call via a wrapper scipt so we can insert XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 before Aug 14 10:25:10 xmms so that double size mode works correctly (a tip gleaned from gentoo FAQ) Aug 14 10:52:42 hi zecke Aug 14 10:53:03 master Aug 14 11:11:10 RP: check your mail, a bit of a breakthrough possibly on static situ Aug 14 11:14:22 zecke: I am about to check in to monotone for the first time ever. how exciting. Aug 14 11:15:44 XorA: Just replied - I have some further thoughts Aug 14 11:15:50 morning all Aug 14 11:15:54 hi Dirk Aug 14 11:16:02 hey Richard Aug 14 11:16:48 RP: excellent it does explain why Ive been having so much trouble repeating static, at work I ssh in so people dont seem me messing with PDA all day Aug 14 11:17:59 jo Aug 14 11:20:12 pb_: yeaaaah Aug 14 11:20:42 hi all Aug 14 11:20:47 x29a: ping Aug 14 11:23:21 hm Aug 14 11:23:39 does anyone else's pkgconfig-native binary segfault at pkgconfig --help ? Aug 14 11:24:08 giel: no Aug 14 11:24:18 giel: what does gdb say? Aug 14 11:28:11 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. Aug 14 11:28:11 0xb7e691db in strlen () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 Aug 14 11:28:27 weird Aug 14 11:30:57 zecke: what does this error mean? Aug 14 11:30:58 mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer monotone.openembedded.org: 'received network error: remote public key hash '1568b67196ccc7dbcb5a143477645eadf395f7a9' is unknown' Aug 14 11:31:03 ah Aug 14 11:31:09 from the 0.20-1 changelog: Aug 14 11:31:11 - Fixes segfault with --help and gcc4 Aug 14 11:39:40 03Alex 07org.oe.dev * r28c6631c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): jornada56x: Use the 2.6er for the Jornada56x, do not use DEVFS Aug 14 11:46:53 zecke: what's the version of pkgconfig in the latest .dev? Aug 14 11:47:55 zecke: and no, on your earlier question, i'm not at the bmco meeting... only meetings i might go to at this moment is cbms meetings, but that's mostly covered by a colleague Aug 14 12:21:06 is www.openembeded down ? Aug 14 12:24:59 Ifaistos: no, but terribly slow... some processes are causing a high load Aug 14 12:33:21 koen: now I use binutils-cross_cvs and get: arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-ld: .tmp_vmlinux1: sh_link of section `.ARM.exidx.exit.text' points to discarded section `.exit.text' of `arch/arm/nwfpe/built-in.o' Aug 14 12:39:13 mickey|thesis: are you there? Aug 14 12:41:58 Ifaistos: should be better now... Aug 14 12:42:16 florian_kc : yes noticed it also :) Aug 14 12:42:47 Ifaistos: looks like a google bot hit a cvs repository... Aug 14 12:42:59 I guess that's fixed now :-) Aug 14 12:51:44 florian_kc: heh Aug 14 12:52:17 these bits are quite rude Aug 14 12:57:23 wtf bug 1311 ? Aug 14 13:07:31 hi reenoo Aug 14 13:07:48 hey pb_ Aug 14 13:11:38 Can anyone tell me why asterisk_2.9.1.bb requires alsa-lib libogg libvorbis popt ? Is this arm specific because on other arches these are not nessesary ? Aug 14 13:12:27 * ver is 1.2.9.1 Aug 14 13:15:37 Ifaistos: the depends aren't arm specific Aug 14 13:16:40 koen : I know, i ment that they might be need it for arm because for other archs they are not. ppc and x86 compile fine without them Aug 14 13:17:36 the only problem i have is that x86/uclibc * seg faults on load. on ppc loads/runs fine Aug 14 13:19:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r755927cc... 10/ (1 packages/asterisk/asterisk_1.2.9.1.bb): asterisk: de-arm-ify Aug 14 13:23:09 koen : I have * 1.2.10 with bristuff patches and zaptel/libpri support need to figure out why asterisk seg faults on x86 before posting Aug 14 13:42:17 abuilding meta-sdk: Aug 14 13:42:19 ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libgcc1 Aug 14 13:42:40 I can fix that :) Aug 14 13:44:05 koen: hi. to build an eabi kernel, can I use gcc 3.4.6? or do I need >4? Aug 14 13:44:36 ArjanS: DISTRO=angstrom-2006.9 Aug 14 13:45:14 koen: thanks, but I'd like to build a gcc outside of OE for kernel testing purposes Aug 14 13:47:31 would I need a gcc >=4 toolchain for that? Aug 14 13:47:44 yes Aug 14 13:47:52 thanks Aug 14 13:49:18 nchip: I should have fixed that error you were seeing Aug 14 13:50:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r19de916d... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc): gcc-package-cross.inc: set appropriate PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Aug 14 13:59:44 rp i was the one who said bitbake -s was slow - thx for taking it seriously and addressing it - for some reason when i posted in here about it people were not very receptive Aug 14 14:00:38 poushag: I didn't actually change the code, I just noted the development branch has much faster code (and fixed a different problem with it) :) Aug 14 14:02:05 RP: any plans on releasing a 1.6.0 RC ? Aug 14 14:02:36 RP: and a 1.4.3 from the 1.4 branch? Aug 14 14:03:05 hehe Aug 14 14:03:14 I won't feel overstepped now :) Aug 14 14:03:48 zecke: I'm finishing the docs before supper Aug 14 14:04:11 zecke: and I'm leaving after supper, and I'll be back on the 20060821 Aug 14 14:04:37 you really got no internet? Aug 14 14:05:02 poushag: developing BitBake has tought me one thing Aug 14 14:05:08 poushag: people will always complain Aug 14 14:05:17 only at 'the office' Aug 14 14:05:18 poushag: they will complain because they do not like the color of the output Aug 14 14:05:29 poushag: they will complain because they think it is too slow Aug 14 14:05:37 poushag: they will complain because it is too fast Aug 14 14:05:50 poushag: they will complain because it is not using enough memory Aug 14 14:05:52 zecke: but during the earliest time I can get real internet is probably sunday Aug 14 14:05:57 poushag: they will complain it used too much... Aug 14 14:06:01 zecke: overstepped? Aug 14 14:06:26 zecke: I will try to check mail with that &$*#^&&# moto mail client everyday Aug 14 14:06:55 so which version of bitbake should i be installing now? Aug 14 14:06:55 zecke: and I do have some hours left to make you happy onthe 21st Aug 14 14:07:10 koen: I'm not sure I know how to make releases ;-) Aug 14 14:07:20 That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :) Aug 14 14:07:30 . o O (tslib release) Aug 14 14:09:42 zecke, i understand what you mean - sometimes its hard to cull true performance issues from mere complaints Aug 14 14:10:51 * RP suspects that's not quite what zecke means... Aug 14 14:10:59 RP: hehe ;) Aug 14 14:11:01 RP: psst Aug 14 14:11:19 but in this case, i was not merely complaining but based on my experience with past software development, trying to call attention to a true performance issue Aug 14 14:11:20 poushag: don't get me wrong. Waiting three minutes for a 'simple' command to complete is a long time Aug 14 14:11:40 poushag: trying to call attention is pretty useless with Free Software Aug 14 14:11:53 poushag: you can try that at a Money backed Vendor Aug 14 14:12:03 if its that bad on just a -s, i could only imagine that it must be worse when actually building something Aug 14 14:12:09 e.g. I can try to make Apple add proper mailinglist support to Apple Mail Aug 14 14:12:33 how does a not often used "parsing summary" qualify as a performance feature ? Aug 14 14:12:34 anyway it got the results i was seeking Aug 14 14:12:50 so which version of bitbake should i be using now? Aug 14 14:13:05 the latest stable release Aug 14 14:13:24 RP: if you feel like doing BitBake release Aug 14 14:13:31 as well kergoth toold you haw to fix the issue Aug 14 14:13:35 RP: kergoth or I could add you to a group Aug 14 14:13:50 RP: or you branch+tag, upload the sourcecode and I will play with the WebGui Aug 14 14:15:11 * zecke stops talking now :) Aug 14 14:15:26 emte, if you were addressing me, i dont recall kergoth telling me how to fix the issue other than saying to file a bug report on it - which is exactly what i did - where you referring to something else? Aug 14 14:15:38 *were Aug 14 14:15:59 no, you were told it was due to inefficient python parsing Aug 14 14:16:55 which is fixed how? im already running psyco Aug 14 14:17:01 poushag: sorry, this 'developed' in a wrong way Aug 14 14:18:25 and yes i recall kergoth telling you to file a bug Aug 14 14:19:01 it is fixed by using a more efficent method to parse Aug 14 14:19:55 emte: I closed the bug as its fixed in the the unstable version of bitbake Aug 14 14:20:17 zecke, me too - i was trying to thank rp and ask if i can start using this improved bitbake - but it seems i cant merely 'bitbake bitabke' :P or can i? Aug 14 14:20:41 heh typo - bitbake bitbake i meant Aug 14 14:20:43 poushag: you can start using this SVN date Aug 14 14:21:10 poushag: You can use the unstable 1.5 version from svn. Note the word unstable though... Aug 14 14:21:39 how bad is it? crashes every other build or just once in a while? Aug 14 14:22:08 poushag: It had a time.sleep(5) Aug 14 14:22:25 and an 'sanity' check that spits stuff to your console when parsing Aug 14 14:22:33 besides that it is stable and faster Aug 14 14:22:45 but things could be different tomorrow when/if RP lands his changes Aug 14 14:22:58 didn't RP already land his changes? Aug 14 14:23:13 ok so more verbosity i can deal with but i dont know what a time.sleep is Aug 14 14:23:15 did he? Aug 14 14:23:18 RP: did you? Aug 14 14:23:37 poushag: when you call it. The first thing it does is doing nothing for five seconds Aug 14 14:23:39 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r8c68fe8c... 10/ (1 docs/packaged-staging.xml): docs/packaged-staging.xml: start filling in "How to proceed from here" Aug 14 14:24:00 oh right - just didnt recognize the syntax Aug 14 14:24:29 well i never built bitbake the first time around Aug 14 14:24:41 guess i will go read the wiki about it Aug 14 14:24:50 there is not much to build Aug 14 14:24:52 koen hm whats PACKAGE_DYNAMIC do? Aug 14 14:25:04 zecke: I pushed some changes - not any of the totally new code though Aug 14 14:25:24 woglinde: that give OE/bitbake a clue about generated packages to evalluate in RDEPENDS Aug 14 14:25:26 woglinde: got that spare ticket? Aug 14 14:25:39 zecke what? Aug 14 14:25:57 woglinde: did you find someone ti join you yet? Aug 14 14:26:12 zecke I have no answer Aug 14 14:29:20 so the wiki only shows how to svn co the 1.4.2 version of bitbake - do i just change that to 1.5 or what? Aug 14 14:31:21 poushag: something like svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake bitbake at a guess Aug 14 14:38:39 k thx Aug 14 14:40:45 zecke: I have a working mtn now and checkouted org.openembedded.dev branch successfully - can you please give me the name of the documentation branch - i have forgotten the name? Aug 14 14:41:15 mr_nice www.openembedded.org Aug 14 14:41:22 there is the branch mentioned Aug 14 14:41:29 ok Aug 14 14:41:38 mr_nice_slacker: org.openembedded.documentation Aug 14 14:43:22 thx Aug 14 14:44:30 mr_nice how loang last your battery of the simpad? Aug 14 14:45:16 woglinde: between 2 and 4 hours Aug 14 14:45:45 woglinde: depend on how many devices i have connected to it Aug 14 14:46:08 woglinde: how long lastes yours? Aug 14 14:49:05 rp, it checked out rev 564 - does that sound right? Aug 14 14:49:31 poushag: yes Aug 14 14:51:03 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * ra1ff9b47... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: update TODO and BUGS Aug 14 14:55:06 is there a good wysiwyg for that docbook stuff or you are using a texteditor only? Aug 14 14:55:31 I use vi or TextEdit.app Aug 14 14:56:14 koen: how familiar is it to html? Aug 14 14:56:53 koen: do you know a good howto or documentation? Aug 14 14:56:55 koen: http://pastebin.ca/131513 Aug 14 14:57:40 nchip: eeks! Aug 14 14:59:56 nchip: fixed :) Aug 14 15:00:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1ff32bea... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc): Aug 14 15:00:23 gcc-package-cross.inc: fix bitbake crashes Aug 14 15:00:23 ~lart python Aug 14 15:00:24 * ibot smacks python up side the head with a clue-by-4 Aug 14 15:01:20 hmm - when i check bitbake version it still says 1.4.2 - i checked out rev 564 in right dir - shouldn;t it have overwritten the older one? Aug 14 15:02:20 mr_nice same Aug 14 15:02:38 koen: thanks :) Aug 14 15:02:40 poushag: what does 'which bitbake' show ? Aug 14 15:03:24 * nchip note to self: bring something nice for koen for next FOSDEM Aug 14 15:03:34 woglinde: i will rebuild mine before next school year starts - I have read about up to 10 hours while only reading a doc Aug 14 15:03:49 woglinde: does zeckes mq200 driver works for you? Aug 14 15:04:03 * koen note to self: do not plan work related stuff on the monday after FOSDEM Aug 14 15:04:19 "/stuff/bitbake/bin/bitbake" dated 2006-08-08 06:38 Aug 14 15:04:55 which is where svn claimed to have dropped the binary i checked out Aug 14 15:10:37 and the date seems to match - so maybe the bitbake version info in the latest hasnt been changed yet? Aug 14 15:12:09 hello everyone Aug 14 15:12:19 koen: thanks for the new images :) Aug 14 15:12:44 poushag: r564 is correct Aug 14 15:13:00 nchip: I think you'll have to bother florian_kc for further errors ;) Aug 14 15:13:08 poushag: It should say verison 1.5 Aug 14 15:13:24 BB_VERSION = "1.5.0" Aug 14 15:14:40 rp, so the problem is on my end it seems - maybe the svn co cmd needs a switch added to force it to overwrite existing files? Aug 14 15:15:41 poushag: try a checkout into a fresh directory to work out whats going on Aug 14 15:15:55 poushag: You can always move the files around afterwards Aug 14 15:16:05 yeah Aug 14 15:17:05 koen: I see 2 kernels in your Angstrom poodle directory, I assume they have different boot parameters? Which one boots off internal flash? Aug 14 15:17:20 the first or second you compiled? Aug 14 15:18:12 Greg2: they should have the same parameters Aug 14 15:18:20 ok Aug 14 15:18:28 they should be 100% the same Aug 14 15:20:28 thanks... d/l now on my dail-up :( Aug 14 15:20:32 bbl Aug 14 15:22:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r98f51606... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): task-sdk: fix some RDEPENDS and set PACKAGES_DYNAMIC for some more packages Aug 14 15:23:32 ok i renamed the existing bitbake dir and did svn co again Aug 14 15:23:44 but it still says bitbake is ver 1.4.2 Aug 14 15:24:43 mr_nice_slacker: i have the suspicion that reading is much faster than writing, im still writing the image from the day before yesterday Aug 14 15:26:08 x29a: could be Aug 14 15:27:32 poushag: The command I gave you checks out version 1.5.0 - I just checked Aug 14 15:29:55 rp, thx for checking - i dont understand whats going on - im going to compare the two dirs with kdiff just to see if they are really the same Aug 14 15:29:59 poushag: make sure bitbake isn't installed somewhere else on your system Aug 14 15:30:05 kdiff3 actually Aug 14 15:30:24 x29a: on which adress is it? Aug 14 15:36:21 rp, thats it - somehow i got bitbake in two places Aug 14 15:37:15 sorry for the confusion Aug 14 15:37:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf2de81e7... 10/ (1 packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_0.4.0-20060804.bb): libmimedir 0.4.0: fix packaging Aug 14 15:37:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb23b9295... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/libsoup_2.2.93.bb): libsoup: add PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Aug 14 15:38:24 still getting used to the environment Aug 14 15:41:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6ba04c1a... 10/ (1 packages/gnutls/gnutls_1.4.0.bb): gnutils 1.4.0: add PACKAGES_DYNAMIC Aug 14 15:42:00 is this an error i can ignore? Error Method already seen: get_appweb_host in' appweb_1.2.0.bb' now in 'appweb_2.0.4.bb' Aug 14 15:42:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2a251a71... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: s/ice/libice/ Aug 14 15:42:10 (from bitbake-1.5.0) Aug 14 15:42:11 poushag: Yes, ignore Aug 14 15:42:15 poushag: that's the verbosity zecke mentioned Aug 14 15:43:08 ok good - just checking - it does say 'error' after all Aug 14 15:43:39 poushag: It could be argued it is an error - just doesn't happen to break anything :) Aug 14 15:43:57 grrr Aug 14 15:44:02 ~lart gdb-cross Aug 14 15:44:02 * ibot pours hot grits down the front of gdb-cross's pants Aug 14 15:44:03 | iwmmxt.c:3707: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'memcpy' Aug 14 15:45:20 it appears to be unable to use the cache from 1.4.2 - which makes sense - i dont need to kill any of my stuff in /stuff/build do i? Aug 14 15:45:27 nchip: I fixed all errors of meta-sdk till gdb-cross, which I don't know how to solve Aug 14 15:45:51 03pb 07org.oe.dev * rfb1f22c1... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc: try to fix locale naming (BZ #1140) Aug 14 15:45:56 03pb 07org.oe.dev * rbe32f635... 10/ (11 files in 2 dirs): glibc: bump PR for binary locale change Aug 14 15:46:36 welcome back pb_ ! :) Aug 14 15:46:58 heh Aug 14 15:47:07 * pb_ is now known as monotonemaster Aug 14 15:47:54 yay! Aug 14 15:47:59 hey pb_ - if you know how i can mask out or disable building all the locale stuff i would like to write it up on the wiki Aug 14 15:48:02 yeaahhh Aug 14 15:48:23 pb_: my master Aug 14 15:48:32 poushag: you can't Aug 14 15:48:37 poushag: Dont set ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION ? Aug 14 15:48:52 my build machine is pretty weak so im trying to avoid building stuff i will never use Aug 14 15:48:56 pb_: what was the name of the GNU tool to fix relationships again? Aug 14 15:49:55 zecke: oh dear, which relationship do you need to fix? Aug 14 15:50:29 now thats what im talkin about!! bitbake -s is spiffy now - thx to whoever fixed it Aug 14 15:54:01 rp, i was trying to use bbmask to mask out '*locale*' but its not working - the switch you named was mentioned in local.conf comments as being compatible with angstrom and familiar - will it work for oz unstable too? Aug 14 15:55:00 (the switch is actually a line setting the var to zero which is currently commented out) Aug 14 15:55:44 zecke: could you upload a copy of the bitdoc output to openembedded.org when you have some time? Aug 14 15:58:56 poushag: bbmask won't work - one .bb file generates all the locales so you can't mask it out Aug 14 15:59:39 poushag: You'll probably have to change that variable in the distro .conf files for OZ as turning it off can cause problems Aug 14 16:01:14 hmm - i dont have distro.conf anywhere in my /stuff tree Aug 14 16:01:24 oh nm Aug 14 16:01:37 bye Aug 14 16:01:38 misread that Aug 14 16:02:44 ok so oz-unstable.conf seems like the right file Aug 14 16:05:28 rp, i dont see that variable in openzaurus-unstable.conf - what now? Aug 14 16:06:46 poushag: 2 seconds using grep tells me: Aug 14 16:06:48 ./conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf:ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" Aug 14 16:06:48 ./conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.2.conf:ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "1" Aug 14 16:08:37 RP: those don't in .dev, afaik Aug 14 16:08:48 im not using that branch so i wasnt looking in those - but i get it now - the same switches and vars that work in one should work in the other Aug 14 16:08:54 (insert "exist" somewhere) Aug 14 16:09:12 ah rats Aug 14 16:09:32 ah, I'm getting confused then. Too many things at once :-/ Aug 14 16:10:46 poushag: It looks like it might not be enabled in .dev by default, presuming the default is off Aug 14 16:12:45 it sounds like koen you are saying that if i add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" to the oz-unstable.conf it wont work Aug 14 16:13:02 it will work Aug 14 16:13:09 i mean it wont disable locale gen Aug 14 16:13:12 it will also work when you put it in local.conf Aug 14 16:13:38 ah ok good - it was only mentioned for angstrom and familiar so i didnt try it Aug 14 16:17:45 poushag: angstrom has the code disabled since the qemu in OE doesn't handle EABI yet Aug 14 16:17:59 * koen should apply the scratchbox patch when he gets back Aug 14 16:18:54 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rafae21a1... 10/ (1 docs/packaged-staging.xml): docs/packaged-staging.xml: expand "how to go from here" Aug 14 16:19:53 the wiki doesnt have much detail about what package-index bitbake target does - i will add to the wiki if someone can pls explain: does it index all the things in stamps dir or just the latest PR? Aug 14 16:23:07 koen: You have a patch for qemu for eabi? Aug 14 16:24:14 how are you people using qemu? as a target, for running ARM on x86? Aug 14 16:24:21 or are you running qemu arm host? Aug 14 16:24:40 scratch the question from that last post Aug 14 16:26:02 but i still would like to add some detail to the wiki about package-index target - can someone explain what are its inputs and how are they processed? (so far as i know it reads stamps dir) Aug 14 16:31:44 RP: it's in scratchbox darcs Aug 14 16:37:02 koen: cool. That would be a nice patch to have in OE :) Aug 14 16:42:04 RP: iirc it's this one: http://scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=1.2/scratchbox;a=filediff;h=20051118130411-baf8b-86da9f6c74dd358044966f726c69a4b57e8cadbd.gz;f=tools/qemu/files/arm-tls.patch Aug 14 16:42:19 RP: but nchip will be a better person to talk to :) Aug 14 16:42:56 koen: I'll try and have a look later, thanks - the url is useful to know :) Aug 14 16:43:34 * koen finishes packing Aug 14 16:43:56 * koen will return on 20060821 Aug 14 16:44:36 mr_nice_slacker: now at verify Aug 14 16:44:38 erasing block 127: 0 Aug 14 16:44:38 addr: 0x00FFFFFE Aug 14 16:44:43 verify: Aug 14 16:45:01 RP: that's the one you want: http://scratchbox.org/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi?r=1.0/sb-cputransp-devkit;a=plainblob;f=/cputransp/qemu-0.8.0-sb/files/42_arm_nptl.patch Aug 14 16:51:39 x29a: hopefully it will do the job Aug 14 17:33:40 is anyone having problems with gcc-cross-initial_3.4.4 ? Aug 14 17:34:37 it fails at the packaging stage... Aug 14 17:51:37 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r0fb74741... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Aug 14 17:51:37 uclibc: patches to compile with gcc 4.1.1 with thumb instruction set Aug 14 17:51:37 (patches derived from busybox mailing list) Aug 14 17:55:54 x29a: did it the job? Aug 14 18:24:55 hello all Aug 14 18:25:00 long time no see Aug 14 18:27:25 how are you? Aug 14 18:28:48 zecke: I'm doing well, busy with Real Life(TM) Aug 14 18:28:51 zecke: how are you? Aug 14 18:28:58 saw your blog posting about performance Aug 14 18:35:16 hi zecke Aug 14 18:35:54 zecke have you seen kdiff3 app for mac? it roxxors and they compile it for mac with every release Aug 14 18:36:00 :) Aug 14 18:37:10 the only thing i have yet to figure out with it is how to have multiple sessions at the same time - was trying to run it from iterm with '&' suffixed but itern just complains that its a directory Aug 14 18:37:24 *iterm Aug 14 18:38:01 what wrong: "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting" Aug 14 18:38:10 I've tried Debian's qemu, as well as qemu-native Aug 14 18:38:14 same problem Aug 14 18:42:54 Why the bump in glibc? Aug 14 18:51:37 ken i think it was something about empty debug directories that werent supposed to be part of certain packages Aug 14 18:51:57 seems like it is merely cosmetic Aug 14 18:52:30 Aha, oki Aug 14 19:01:52 im trying to do ssh command forwarding to run 'ipkg update' every time i update the ipk feed on my build machine Aug 14 19:02:16 problem is that /usr/lib/ipkg is owned by root:root Aug 14 19:03:49 im reluctant to change the owner by brute force - im thinking move all the ipkg lists to sd and create a symlink where the old dir was Aug 14 19:04:13 anybody have an opinion on whether this is a good idea? Aug 14 19:06:54 which also gains me pkg lists that are retained through the suspend/wake-up process Aug 14 19:16:54 Still getting udev requires hotplug, at boot time. Got hotplug-ng in RDEPENDS Aug 14 19:17:37 mr_nice_slacker: still verifiying Aug 14 19:20:47 well i tried it out and it seems to work great with a root-owned symlink to a user owned dir on sd Aug 14 19:47:15 hi renoo Aug 14 19:47:30 hey woglinde Aug 14 19:56:32 Anyone know if I can specify with cvs what kernel version I want the snapshot for (I download patches from armlinux and linuxsh) Aug 14 20:00:06 cvs or git? Aug 14 20:00:14 cvs Aug 14 20:00:22 dunno Aug 14 20:00:33 I did a git version for u-bot recently Aug 14 20:00:55 er u-boot, look int packages/uboot Aug 14 20:01:03 crofton *g* Aug 14 20:01:07 there may be a cvs version there also Aug 14 20:01:16 oki thx Aug 14 20:01:42 I actually booted of the u-boot built from that on my OSK Aug 14 20:40:45 Getting "Udev requires hotplug, not started" Aug 14 21:00:17 to answer my earlier question about this error message: "qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - exiting" Aug 14 21:01:06 apparently qemu doesn't like "include conf/machine/include/tune-iwmmxt.conf" in conf/machine/ipaq-pxa270.conf. Maybe it chokes on iwmmxt extensions. Aug 14 21:01:45 I commented it out and replaced with "include conf/machine/include/tune-xscale.conf" and now glibc locales are being generated without that sig 4 error Aug 14 21:04:01 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r57e5d3d6... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Aug 14 21:04:01 linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx-2.6.17/defconfig_jlime: Changes Aug 14 21:04:01 * Rebuild firmware Aug 14 21:04:01 * Set all wifi as modules Aug 14 21:04:06 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r5e78d559... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): Aug 14 21:04:06 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Add wget to rdpends Aug 14 21:04:06 * Due to busybox wget having issues with passive ftp, we want Aug 14 21:04:07 full wget version. Aug 14 21:04:11 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r04264e63... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): Aug 14 21:04:11 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Removal of some RDEPENDS Aug 14 21:04:13 * Remove pcmciautils, orinoco-conf, hotplug-ng Aug 14 21:49:14 mr_nice_slacker1: verify done Aug 14 21:49:18 now lets see Aug 14 21:50:13 CoreDump|home: Have you had any luck looking into the issues altboot seems to be having with loop-images lately ? Aug 14 21:56:34 anyone a hint for what could be wrong if i cant get past the FABDATA message whilst booting my simpad? Aug 15 00:14:17 Hello? Anyone here? Aug 15 01:39:14 hi sadarax - most of the folks in this channel are on eu time and are asleep now - they start coming back online here in about another 6 hrs **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 15 02:59:58 2006