**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 19 02:59:57 2006 Sep 19 05:47:09 hey. folks. How can I use "bitbake -i" for editing a .bb ? Sep 19 05:51:33 for example, I want inject my patch ? how can I do that ? Sep 19 05:53:28 koen|away, do you know how ? Sep 19 05:55:28 emte, around ? Sep 19 06:50:45 ? Sep 19 07:05:23 good morning Sep 19 07:49:18 morning Sep 19 07:49:36 leoncamel: bitbake -i; parse;build myrecipe Sep 19 07:50:00 leoncamel: after editing: reparse myrecipe;rebuild myrecipe Sep 19 07:50:02 hrw|work, hmm, what dose the "parse" mean ? Sep 19 07:50:12 leoncamel: its bitbakeshell command Sep 19 07:50:28 leoncamel: you can skip it - 'build' command will invoke parsing Sep 19 07:50:55 hrw|work, Now, I just "rm tmp/stamp/xxx.do_compile.***", and then bitbake xxx_package. Sep 19 07:51:03 hrw|work, Is it OK ? Sep 19 07:51:20 leoncamel: bitbake -b myrecipe.bb -f -ccompile is better Sep 19 07:51:42 hrw|work, OK. Sep 19 07:52:04 hrw|work, and if I want repackaged a specific package. how can I do that ? Sep 19 07:52:28 hrw|work, there isn't command named "package" there. Sep 19 07:54:05 s/repackaged/repackage Sep 19 07:59:10 rebuild? Sep 19 07:59:59 hrw|work, no. rebuild would clean the package working dir. that is not what I want. Sep 19 08:00:45 hrw|work, for example, I could add some file for testing, and I want repackage the current working directory into a *.ipk file. Sep 19 08:01:06 hrw|work, could you catch what I said ? Sep 19 08:01:10 ok. Sep 19 08:01:25 leoncamel: bitbake -b myrecipe.bb -f -cinstall; bitbake -b myrecipe.bb -f -cpackage Sep 19 08:02:04 but I would also check list of tasks for recipe - opie ones have extra opie_install task Sep 19 08:02:25 hrw|work, OK. thanks. Sep 19 08:02:59 hrw|work, So, how can I list the "task chains" of a package ? is there ? Sep 19 08:04:18 bitbake -clisttasks -b myrecipe.bb Sep 19 08:04:33 hrw|work, :). GREATE . thanks. :) Sep 19 08:05:44 np Sep 19 08:08:55 morning Sep 19 08:10:17 hi XorA Sep 19 08:12:15 ~lart people who dont understand how spammers work Sep 19 08:12:15 * ibot pours gasoline all over people who dont understand how spammers work, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze Sep 19 08:36:27 morning all Sep 19 08:59:07 morning all Sep 19 09:03:16 hi lrg Sep 19 09:04:48 hi ade|desk lrg florian_kc Sep 19 09:05:05 someone use bt hid on desktop? Sep 19 09:05:07 hey lrg Sep 19 09:23:48 ~lart kaddressbook for lack of 'beam vcard' option Sep 19 09:23:48 * ibot cuts kaddressbook into thin stripes for lack of 'beam vcard' option Sep 19 09:43:48 greetings Sep 19 09:49:27 XorA: sent mail with tonights details Sep 19 09:53:56 hi guys! Sep 19 09:54:13 hi mickeyl Sep 19 09:54:22 hey mickeyl Sep 19 09:55:24 * mickeyl dances a jig Sep 19 09:57:56 lrg: got it cool Sep 19 09:58:08 * XorA hides from scary micky Sep 19 09:58:22 heh Sep 19 09:58:28 no need to Sep 19 09:58:36 everything's trivial ;) Sep 19 09:58:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6d100db9... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libxine 1.1.0 add gcc4.1.1 patch (static vs. nonstatic declaration) Sep 19 09:58:53 mickeyl: congrats Sep 19 09:58:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r33bc45d7... 10/ (1 packages/libxine/libxine_1.1.0.bb): libxine 1.1.0 fix typo in SRC_URI Sep 19 09:59:06 thanks :) Sep 19 09:59:07 mickeyl: now it must be beer oclock for you Sep 19 09:59:44 XorA: no kidding, it would be... unfortunately I have to submit a framework paper as part of my contract work in 10 hours, so I just can't get drunk now :) Sep 19 10:10:22 ~curse opensync Sep 19 10:10:28 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, opensync ! Sep 19 10:11:28 now I understand that having 3-4 copies of contacts/events/todos is normal for linux users.. Sep 19 10:12:39 kdepim does not have option to beam entries, opensync works in 'you have to read source few times, then understand whole cryptic xml which we use and then maybe it will work but rather not' Sep 19 10:12:43 argh Sep 19 10:13:05 hrw|work: I keep mine on windows to avoid that hassle :-) Sep 19 10:17:32 I have always been vaguely curious how pim synching works, it seems like a similar problem to VCSes :-) Sep 19 10:19:36 slightly OT: I have a gpe-based environment for my PXA, and am looking for a reasonable 3d-library, something openglish like vincent - anyone have a pointer where to look? Sep 19 10:26:08 njs: monotone pim coming soon? Sep 19 10:27:35 if you write one! Sep 19 10:38:30 njs: *-merge would be usefull :) Sep 19 10:40:30 koen|work: yeah, and snapshot DAGs seem handy too... Sep 19 10:55:46 njs: I think the only difference between vcs and pim is format conversion Sep 19 10:56:42 in a heterogenous situation Sep 19 10:57:05 s Sep 19 11:33:26 morning Sep 19 11:46:07 yay mickey|lunch Sep 19 11:48:45 hi zecke Sep 19 11:48:50 hey Sep 19 11:58:02 morning all Sep 19 11:59:03 hey Dirk Sep 19 11:59:17 hey Liam Sep 19 12:00:47 hi dirk Sep 19 12:01:10 hi Marcin Sep 19 12:47:02 what could i use to do file transfert via RS232 on embedded device ? any advise ? Sep 19 12:47:31 xmodem, zmodem, ymodem? Sep 19 12:47:41 lrzsz Sep 19 12:47:51 minicom / sx Sep 19 12:47:54 hum Sep 19 12:48:15 i dont know for x/z/y modem Sep 19 12:49:38 minicom can send with x/y/zmodem. If you start up "rz" on the other end, you can send with zmodem Sep 19 12:51:33 rz oki Sep 19 12:52:06 (rz = Recieve Zmodem) Sep 19 12:52:22 yeai i saw Sep 19 12:52:30 thx Sep 19 12:52:32 np Sep 19 13:24:14 ~help Sep 19 13:26:20 man, I'm pissed off Sep 19 13:26:36 * zecke suffers from a really bad bug on iwmmxt Sep 19 13:27:51 zecke: kernel or gcc bug ? Sep 19 13:31:37 lrg: gcc Sep 19 13:32:25 lrg: some how it returns '0' instead of the real 32 bits under some circumstances :( Sep 19 13:32:37 lrg: I have tried it with a not self compiled toolchain and it works :( Sep 19 13:33:00 lrg: I will ask MVista for the src Sep 19 13:34:03 zecke, which version do you use ? Sep 19 13:34:39 gcc3.3+iwmmxt patches from one OpenEZX guy Sep 19 13:35:33 so. is there any testcase for this bug ? when will it return '0' ? Sep 19 13:36:11 leoncamel: no, I would have to look at the assembly first Sep 19 13:36:26 leoncamel: I get a LCT header and analysis it. Sep 19 13:37:06 tmbinc_: ping Sep 19 13:38:51 zecke, BTW, the OpenEZX maintained by Moto ? Sep 19 13:41:47 leoncamel: dunno, unlikely though Sep 19 13:44:21 zecke, are you working on iwmmxt toolcahin for OE ? Sep 19 13:50:31 leoncamel: no need to. I'm using iwmmxt since gcc3.4 Sep 19 13:51:38 zecke, so . what is the bug ? Sep 19 13:52:53 leoncamel: well, see above Sep 19 13:53:21 leoncamel: I'm getting 32 bit of data which is 00 01 Sep 19 13:53:28 leoncamel: and this gets returned as '0' Sep 19 13:53:35 leoncamel: source of the bug, unknown Sep 19 13:53:41 leoncamel: effect... really bad Sep 19 13:54:23 zecke, probably unrelated to your work with the iwmmxt tool chain but I had errors when trying to compile the host gdb client. (gdb-cross) I was able to troubleshoot the problem and generated a patch. I'm not 100% confident in my fix but it works and I also submitted it to gdb. Here is the patch: followed by the errors before the patch is used: http://pastebin.ca/175402 Sep 19 13:54:41 zecke: good luck with mv, I'll also ask around for you Sep 19 13:54:52 zecke, hmm, every package which compiled by iwmmxt toolchain will affect by this bug ? Sep 19 13:56:39 Gerrath: bugs.openembedded.org, file one there too Sep 19 13:57:16 zecke, ok. Sep 19 13:57:33 leoncamel: well maybe Sep 19 13:59:25 leoncamel: most of the other apps seem to work Sep 19 14:06:04 cu Sep 19 14:06:58 lrg: cool, only cosmetic changes :) Sep 19 14:09:16 do13, yep, mostly cosmetic :) Sep 19 14:10:54 RP: will mplayer -fbmode "yuvmode" not work if /etc/fb.modes is taught the correct magic Sep 19 14:14:17 zecke, submitted the bug.. what I'm unsure of is the error was because multiple lines had the target variables recasted and not the source variables. I have never seen target variables recasted so I recasted the source variables instead. It now works but I'm not sure if it is a correct fix as I don't understand what the author was tring to do :-) Sep 19 14:16:59 zecke, well the more I look at the code the more I realize I'm wrong :-) the target variable is actually a different type (ARMdword) so I need to look at it some more I guess. Sep 19 14:19:56 Gerrath: hehe Sep 19 14:20:25 Gerrath: I had huge headache when fixing this in Opie Sep 19 14:20:57 zecke, well my fix works, but I think in this case "fix" is a relative term :-p Sep 19 14:22:24 zecke, have you ever seen recasting of the target variable: (signed long) s2 = a * b; Sep 19 14:23:55 zecke, is that even legal? does it mean it recasts the data (a*b) then stores it in s2? I know the compiler does not like it but I just cant image that uncompilable code would get implemented in the gdb project, so I'm assuming there is something I'm missing :-) Sep 19 14:32:29 Hi all Sep 19 14:35:40 got a question about which bb file generates the /lib/modules/2.6.17/modules.dep and other modules in that directory Sep 19 14:37:03 trying to build spitz oz3542 images but those files are missing Sep 19 14:38:52 thought it might be machine specific but same problem building C7x0 Sep 19 14:50:44 hey mikearthur Sep 19 14:50:51 hey liam Sep 19 14:50:54 hows wolfson going Sep 19 14:51:01 I see they hit the FTSE-250 Sep 19 15:03:35 koen|away: format conversion is easy, just convert to/from a canonical format when you store... monotone actually does some of this already with e.g. charset conversion on path names :-) Sep 19 15:49:04 leoncamel: OE already has a working iwmmxt/EABI toolchain Sep 19 15:49:44 Marex: ping Sep 19 15:50:12 Sleep_Walker, destination address unreachable Sep 19 15:50:29 Sleep_Walker, co tu delas ... smirujes na jakych kanalech jsem? ;) Sep 19 15:50:55 Marex: ne uplne, zacinam idlit i tu, protoze to je aktualni Sep 19 15:52:26 koen, OK. which distro use the working iwmmxt toolchain ? Sep 19 15:52:56 Ångström Sep 19 15:55:11 later Sep 19 15:55:27 koen, :). very interesting . HOW can I input this word ? Sep 19 15:55:30 ~lart putty/xterm/other termnals I use for falling over when someone uses non english characters Sep 19 15:55:30 * ibot breaks out the Hoover and sucks up putty/xterm/other termnals I use for falling over when someone uses non english characters Sep 19 15:56:44 leoncamel: check conf/distro Sep 19 15:56:49 btw Sep 19 15:56:52 yarrrrrrr Sep 19 15:57:11 arrr, matey :) Sep 19 15:57:12 XorA: did you start at wolfson yet? Sep 19 15:57:18 15 men on a dead mans chest, yohoho and a bottle of rum Sep 19 15:57:26 koen: next monday Sep 19 15:57:33 yohoho Sep 19 15:57:35 koen, OK. I mean the non-english character.. :) Ångström ? Sep 19 15:57:53 leoncamel: like I said, check conf/distro Sep 19 15:58:02 ♬ Sep 19 15:58:03 that lists all valid distros OE knows about Sep 19 15:58:45 Xörå: cool, so next week you will become lrg's new codeslave? Sep 19 15:59:07 * lrg looks forward to next week :D Sep 19 15:59:16 koen, I mean, how can I input the character "Å" in "Ångström" ? which key ? Sep 19 15:59:35 press Å :D Sep 19 15:59:40 koen: dev will get done quicker when Xora starts :) Sep 19 15:59:43 option-shift-A on my apple keyboard Sep 19 15:59:57 lrg: :) Sep 19 16:02:14 koen, I can't find "option" key here. :( Sep 19 16:02:26 alt-gr A on windoze Sep 19 16:03:34 XorA, gr ? Sep 19 16:03:58 leoncamel: Alt to right of space bar Sep 19 16:04:14 leoncamel: on my keyboard is labelled "Alt Gr" Sep 19 16:05:09 XorA, here isn't that key .. :( Sep 19 16:07:27 Marex: to si delas srandu? Sep 19 16:07:41 Sleep_Walker, co? Sep 19 16:07:53 Marex: prijde myska, ty vypadnes Sep 19 16:08:19 stejne uz o me nema zajem, tak co Sep 19 16:08:32 Marex: tak proc ji tam tahas???! Sep 19 16:08:58 Marex: tak ji rekni rovnou: "Vypadni z kanalu", idlis tam furt a kdyz prijde myska, tak zdrhnes Sep 19 16:09:13 proc bych ji to rikal? Sep 19 16:09:21 to je jeji vec ze tam idli Sep 19 16:09:25 ja ji tam netaham Sep 19 16:10:23 Marex: delej co myslis Sep 19 16:11:16 this is an english speaking channel Sep 19 16:12:05 ~seen pgfeller Sep 19 16:12:21 pgfeller was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 21h 28m 49s ago, saying: 'yang: sorry; have to go ... - cu.'. Sep 19 16:12:22 someone needs to invent babel bot :-) Sep 19 16:12:28 koen: sorry, we moved to PM Sep 19 16:12:41 XorA: good idea Sep 19 16:15:12 koen, punish Sleep_Walker ;) Sep 19 16:15:19 koen, btw sorry Sep 19 16:16:07 ~version Sep 19 16:16:14 i guess version is sarge 3.1 Sep 19 16:17:14 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r74f8449b... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-x86: upgrade to 2.6.17.9 Sep 19 16:23:10 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf0737756... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_git.bb): xserver-kdrive git supply EXTRA_OECONF_x86 since w100 xserver doesn't build for x86 Sep 19 16:23:11 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra5ba9222... 10/ (1 conf/machine/x86.conf): x86.conf: make it work w/ glibc 2.4 + NTPL Sep 19 16:31:37 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd265a57e... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ltrace: remove 0.3.36 and add 0.4 Sep 19 16:43:31 mickeyl: congrats on getting it finished :) Sep 19 16:43:41 cool Sep 19 16:43:47 RP: thanks very much. I'm really reliefed now :) Sep 19 16:43:51 so I can finally build x86 angstrom images :) Sep 19 16:43:53 hi everyone, congrats mickeyl Sep 19 16:44:03 thanks pH5 Sep 19 16:44:33 XorA: it could well work. Have you a sample fb.modes entry? Sep 19 16:45:03 mickeyl: I can imagine. It does mean you can't use it as an excuse now though ;-) Sep 19 16:45:31 RP: heh, true enough. ;) Sep 19 16:46:03 mickeyl: just do s/thesis/NDA/ in your excuse list Sep 19 16:46:08 hahah, righto Sep 19 16:46:10 :D Sep 19 16:46:21 hi all and congradulation mickeyl :) Sep 19 16:46:49 RP: no, I will try and play tomorrow on c860, but I only just ordered my terrier Sep 19 16:46:59 seriously though... i really planned to take a 6 month break from everything computer related after submitting the thesis. Now I find myself being dragged into the first project that goes at least until the end of this year. :) Sep 19 16:47:03 den-ros: thanks Sep 19 16:47:08 * den-ros think how about uClibc Sep 19 16:47:55 mickeyl: (Y) Sep 19 16:48:14 mickeyl: Seriously, try and take a break as well. I'd not recommend giving things up entirely, just limit time spent on them... Sep 19 16:48:23 XorA: You've placed the order? cool :) Sep 19 16:48:34 aaargh Sep 19 16:48:36 http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/28110.html Sep 19 16:48:55 so we'll have a linux-moto tree full of crap soon Sep 19 16:49:01 s/tree/git-tree/ Sep 19 16:50:05 RP: *nod* if all goes well, I'll take a 6 month "break" in 2007 -- while writing the OE book and doing a couple of fun programming projects which I had to leave aside for long. Sep 19 16:50:38 I'd like to do something relaxing like a book... :) Sep 19 16:50:48 * den-ros whant to read OE book Sep 19 16:51:43 * mickeyl wanders to a pub for a couple of hours :) Sep 19 16:51:46 later :) Sep 19 16:51:56 correct s/OE book/mickeyl OE book Sep 19 16:52:05 mickey|pub: enjoy, you've earned it :) Sep 19 16:52:10 :) Sep 19 16:53:07 mickey|pub: are You stil here? Sep 19 16:53:22 den-ros: I'd doubt it Sep 19 16:53:35 mickey|pub: did not know that will glad You but i make several vector Angstrom logo :) Sep 19 16:53:50 let it be my little present :) Sep 19 16:54:24 did You see it? (this logos need further correct) Sep 19 16:58:37 http://teleology.ru/files/angstrom/angstrom-logo_32x32-01.svg Sep 19 16:58:37 http://teleology.ru/files/angstrom/angstrom-logo_32x32-02.svg Sep 19 16:58:37 http://teleology.ru/files/angstrom/angstrom-logo_32x32-03.svg Sep 19 17:09:17 libfontconfig fails for me. seems to grab an absolute path: /usr/lib/libz.la Sep 19 18:02:19 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r4b947022... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): Sep 19 18:02:19 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Addition of Links to images Sep 19 18:02:19 * Addition of Links to all images (bootstrap depend) Sep 19 18:06:27 hi all Sep 19 18:08:07 hi gremlin[it] Sep 19 18:09:09 i'm looking on www.oe.org but ... there is document about how to use the non-dev repository (fam 0.84/0.83) ? Sep 19 18:09:14 hi pH5 Sep 19 18:09:59 gremlin[it]: fam is not within the OE repository but in a git tree on handhelds.org Sep 19 18:11:03 gremlin[it]: no Sep 19 18:11:03 gremlin[it]: and there never will be Sep 19 18:12:13 koen hi :) ... why 'never' ? is something thta haven't sense to do ? Sep 19 18:12:44 gremlin[it]: correct Sep 19 18:12:46 pH5: biff Sep 19 18:14:09 koen, why? (sorry probably i seem a child that ask all time why) Sep 19 18:15:27 we don't want crap on OE.org Sep 19 18:15:57 koen: yay! Sep 19 18:18:32 mhh ok ... so what's the best way to port or modify a stable familiar release (or another oe based distro) ? Sep 19 18:18:40 there isn't Sep 19 18:18:45 (for familiar) Sep 19 18:19:43 gremlin[it]: get a checkout of .dev and start to hack Sep 19 18:20:29 mhh ... is correct to say that familiar 0.84 is 'based' on oe, on a snapshot of oe on a day ? Sep 19 18:21:08 just erase 'familiar' from your mind Sep 19 18:21:24 use something sane Sep 19 18:21:42 koen, i know could be the way ... but i would like to start working on a snapshot of oe i'm "sure" is working Sep 19 18:21:42 hahahah Sep 19 18:22:55 i supposed (but seem i was wrong) starting from familiar was a good idea :) Sep 19 18:22:56 gremlin[it]: make your own branch with monotone? Sep 19 18:23:29 gremlin[it]: or lockdown the config like angstrom does with sane-srcdates and preferred-foo.inc Sep 19 18:23:32 gremlin[it]: using oz354x? Sep 19 18:23:42 gremlin[it]: or do as koen says, lock down versions Sep 19 18:24:04 or use http://projects.o-hand.com/poky/ Sep 19 18:24:36 hi zecke Sep 19 18:25:23 yes these suggestions seem match what i have in my mind :) Sep 19 18:26:07 all theese cause yestardy i resyng and try to build an images but i got an error on gcc or libc (i don't remember) ... Sep 19 18:26:23 s/resyng/checkout/ Sep 19 18:28:36 * den-ros erase "familiar" from mind Sep 19 18:32:27 gremlin[it]: What you want is probably to help revamping "familiar-unstable" DISTRO in OE.dev Sep 19 18:33:45 gremlin[it]: That would be helpful to build contemporary packages for Familiar now, while wait for something better to emerge Sep 19 18:33:52 good evening Sep 19 18:34:04 there already are multiple better thing Sep 19 18:34:29 DISTRO={openzaurus, angstrom, generic} Sep 19 18:34:30 psokolovsky really at now my target was have familiar 0.84 working on h3[678]00 or switch to another oe based distro ... Sep 19 18:35:34 gremlin[it], everyone here would encourage you to help with Angstrom. But note it's 2.6 kernel thing to start with. Sep 19 18:36:25 psokolovsky i know ... but i need a 'bootstrap-image' to make tests :) Sep 19 18:37:30 and try to stay in sync with the kernel version used by oe (or one of its distro) Sep 19 18:40:34 gremlin[it], well, OE is flexible with that, a distro (or machine straight) defines which kernel it wants to use. For example, angstrom uses 2.6.16-hh5 for pocketpc's, as 2.6.17 at HH.org is still in flux Sep 19 18:44:42 probably i'll make the first try with 'generic' distro ... Sep 19 19:57:59 I just made a monotone patch file to add support for gdb-cross_6.4, I started this becuase of compile errors in gdb-cross_6.3. I had opened a bug for those errors, do I add the patch file to add gdb-cross_6.4 to OE or do I create a new bug report? Sep 19 19:58:55 Gerrath: the important thing is that you add it to the bugtracker :) Sep 19 20:00:11 koen, ok.. another question I had is if most of the effort was based off of the original gdb-cross.bb file, should I keep the maintaner name the same as that file or should I change it to my name? What is the normal pactice? Sep 19 20:00:41 only keep MAINTAINER if you are sure that person will want to keep maintaining it Sep 19 20:00:57 and set yourself as maintainer if you want to keep maintaining it Sep 19 20:01:24 ok, thanks. Sep 19 20:02:30 if i have /usr/lib/pkg/[a-z]/*, and i want to keep /usr/lib/pkg/[a-d]/* with pkg, and separate /usr/lib/pkg/[e-z]/* into pkg-libs, what is the best way to do that? Sep 19 20:02:37 could you list multiple maintainers? Sep 19 20:08:25 hi andersee Sep 19 20:10:32 woglinde: howdy Sep 19 20:10:40 * andersee yawns and stretches Sep 19 20:11:49 koen, thanks for the info.. I submitted it as a new bug and noted that the old bug can be closed since it is fixed by adding the newer version :-) Sep 19 20:13:59 andersee: I sort of got uclibc-TRUNK/EABI working in OE Sep 19 20:15:36 koen: sweet! Sep 19 20:17:03 gcc-cross-initial builds, but gcc-cross errors out with a locale error which http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/200-uclibc-locale.patch claims to solve Sep 19 20:17:19 anyway, I have a nano ipk linked against uclibc :) Sep 19 20:17:30 now I just need to clean up the stuff and commit it Sep 19 20:18:19 koen: So how is uclibc different/better than glibc? Sep 19 20:18:37 hvontres|poodle: it's different Sep 19 20:18:42 andersee is nicer then Andreas Sep 19 20:18:50 heh Sep 19 20:18:58 and Uli Sep 19 20:19:22 hvontres|poodle: http://uclibc.org/FAQ.html#doesnt_suck Sep 19 20:19:23 hvontres|poodle: it's smaller and can be build in 5 minutes :) Sep 19 20:19:31 built* Sep 19 20:20:52 koen: sweet...unlike the 5hrs+ for glibc....:( Sep 19 20:21:30 koen: would it work for a Zaurus image? Sep 19 20:21:37 koen there is now an uclibc arm-ntpl patch from csl Sep 19 20:21:47 * hvontres|poodle thinks smaller=better for small RAM Sep 19 20:22:17 woglinde: I noticed Sep 19 20:22:28 koen okay :) Sep 19 20:22:35 morning all Sep 19 20:22:38 woglinde: but I got distracted with reading the flamewar on the busybox list Sep 19 20:22:38 hi lrg Sep 19 20:22:41 hey lrg Sep 19 20:22:45 hey Liam Sep 19 20:22:50 hm new flamewar? Sep 19 20:22:55 * lrg and xora are at the rail station using some free wifi Sep 19 20:23:01 woglinde: GPLv2 is evil Sep 19 20:23:08 hm hm Sep 19 20:23:09 oo Sep 19 20:23:13 jesus Sep 19 20:23:14 * suihkulokki goes find popcorn Sep 19 20:23:17 woglinde: and the other side says "GPLv3 is evil" Sep 19 20:23:29 woglinde: busybox ? Sep 19 20:23:57 hi Sep 19 20:24:03 hey marcin Sep 19 20:24:10 lrg: so the wolfson 'office' is just some dudes on a bench at the station? Sep 19 20:24:13 hey hrw Sep 19 20:24:34 koen: you cant beat free unsecured wifi :) Sep 19 20:24:44 * koen always leaves out some 'f' and 's' chars Sep 19 20:24:48 koen, zecke, psokolovsky .. thanks u all ... g'night Sep 19 20:24:55 nite gremlin Sep 19 20:25:14 koen: maybe its time to fix keyboard? Sep 19 20:25:35 that or learn to spell wolfson properly Sep 19 20:25:38 hm in germany was a lawsuite where the owner is guilty if he didnt secure his wifi and some one else does bad things over it Sep 19 20:26:25 woglinde: the only bad thing we are doing is taliking to koen on #oe ;) Sep 19 20:26:47 koen: since I passed on the batton for maintaining busybox, I'm happy to let others do the fighting Sep 19 20:26:58 ~lart bluez a bit Sep 19 20:26:59 * ibot pushes the wall down onto bluez a bit whilst whistling innocently Sep 19 20:27:10 * andersee served his time Sep 19 20:27:16 'hcitool scan' is cached.. Sep 19 20:27:31 andersee: what's the ETA for nptl stuff? Sep 19 20:27:36 andersee: post .29? Sep 19 20:27:54 andersee: i'm on th bb list and it's getting a tad intense atm :-/ Sep 19 20:28:26 * andersee is happily ignoring the flamefest and doing other things Sep 19 20:28:27 :-) Sep 19 20:29:04 andersee yes Sep 19 20:29:25 koen: .29 will be mostly as-is Sep 19 20:29:25 .30 will be the NPTL merge Sep 19 20:29:25 .31 for the no-kernel-headers fix and random other new things Sep 19 20:29:30 andersee: :) Sep 19 20:33:17 ~lart nokia 6310i for lack of irmc Sep 19 20:33:17 * ibot declares nokia 6310i a moron for lack of irmc Sep 19 20:34:48 Xora still can't get a wifi signal :( Sep 19 20:35:10 hello Sep 19 20:35:21 night all Sep 19 20:35:26 koen: Was the documenation for your SoC online somewhere? Sep 19 20:35:27 cya Sep 19 20:35:31 'night lrg Sep 19 20:35:37 and XorA|gprs :) Sep 19 20:35:46 andersee: ah, so I have till .30 to figure out how to clean up OE/uclibc :) Sep 19 20:35:48 * cyrilRomain reads a thread starting on cross-gcc ML about the infinite glibc configure loop Sep 19 20:35:50 his train is before mine Sep 19 20:35:52 he xora Sep 19 20:36:05 RP: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/OE/SoC2006/ Sep 19 20:36:30 RP: I got halfway implementing the fix mentioned in there last week Sep 19 20:37:30 koen: Did you consider using the existing packaging method on native packages? Sep 19 20:38:50 RP: yes, but this way was faster Sep 19 20:38:53 RP: since do_stage for most -native packages is gruesome Sep 19 20:38:54 ~stab glibc staging Sep 19 20:38:56 * ibot runs at glibc staging with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Sep 19 20:40:23 koen: ok, thanks. I'm just thinking about things at the moment :) Sep 19 20:40:58 * v8jlene is back Sep 19 20:41:00 RP: it would be a nice goal Sep 19 20:41:04 v8jlene: wb Sep 19 20:41:09 morning Sep 19 20:41:24 RP: let's get the current form running in .dev and take it from there Sep 19 20:41:33 insert 'first' somewhere Sep 19 20:41:42 koen: I'm slightly concerned about the slight overlap of some of the SoC code with the devgen branch in poky Sep 19 20:42:05 what overlap? Sep 19 20:42:12 koen: We need to improve the handling of the pkgmap issues Sep 19 20:42:22 ah, that one Sep 19 20:42:30 I noticed it and haven;t looked at it Sep 19 20:42:41 * koen is a bit low on time Sep 19 20:43:01 koen: Ideally I'd like to see something in OE which meets the needs of both devdep and packages staging Sep 19 20:43:11 +1 on that Sep 19 20:43:15 koen: come to the 48 hours a day world Sep 19 20:43:46 xora me too Sep 19 20:44:54 XorA|gprs: I petitioned for teh 36 hour one Sep 19 20:44:56 * koen apm -z Sep 19 20:44:59 'night all Sep 19 20:45:07 cya Sep 19 20:45:18 bye xora Sep 19 20:45:58 woglinde: THAT was me late for koen Sep 19 20:46:07 oh Sep 19 20:46:09 okay Sep 19 20:46:09 crappin htc keyboard Sep 19 20:46:21 hu which one you have? Sep 19 20:46:33 qtek 9090? Sep 19 20:46:55 * XorA|gprs needs to find out why prism3 kills zaurus Sep 19 20:47:04 htc wizard Sep 19 20:53:58 porn roxx on OZ.org in spam comments ;) Sep 19 20:54:17 heh heh Sep 19 20:54:52 xanax/tramadol are past Sep 19 20:54:59 should turn good stuff into wallpaperd for oz Sep 19 21:02:43 ~lart this machine for random rootfs errors Sep 19 21:02:43 * ibot cuts off this machine's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper for random rootfs errors Sep 19 21:04:16 hrw still havingems? Sep 19 21:04:22 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r59ea48e5... 10/ (1 packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb): eds-dbus svn enhance metadata, fix building on some architectures Sep 19 21:04:28 problems Sep 19 21:04:51 * XorA|gprs needs smaller thumbs Sep 19 21:05:51