**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 30 02:59:57 2006 Oct 30 04:55:28 XorA|gone: yea, but it's broken at the moment due to udev Oct 30 07:31:11 http://linuxtogo.org/~florian/sdk/oe-sdk-20060304232054.tar.bz2 is there any later one ? Oct 30 07:45:00 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4318caf9... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Oct 30 07:45:00 iozone3: added version 263 Oct 30 07:45:00 IOzone is a filesystem benchmark tool. It has own license which does not allow Oct 30 07:45:00 to distribute derivative works based on this work. Oct 30 07:45:00 This recipe adds patch which change source code to get one util built for ARM Oct 30 07:45:00 platform. Upstream author gave us permission to do it as this patch will get Oct 30 07:45:02 included in next release. Oct 30 07:56:56 what would be the best conf/machine .. to derive a pxa270 device ? Oct 30 08:09:08 oh .. nice .. i just saw that someone added my wanted support already .. Oct 30 08:09:19 compulab pxa270 , how cool is oe ?? very Oct 30 08:09:48 how can i find the person which added this into oe ? the bb file misses the maintainer Oct 30 08:40:26 good morning all Oct 30 08:40:48 morning koen Oct 30 08:42:12 hey XorA Oct 30 08:50:11 damn i need a gcc-3 package for 64bit to get over the qemu obstacle Oct 30 08:50:51 good morning Oct 30 08:53:22 morning all Oct 30 08:56:38 yo Oct 30 08:56:50 lol xkdb take 118% of CPU on my board :) Oct 30 08:57:02 ( from ps ) Oct 30 08:58:49 hi Oct 30 08:59:13 rob_w: check mtn log and /MAINTAINERS Oct 30 09:00:05 hrw|work, mtn log against the file i want .. Oct 30 09:02:48 yes Oct 30 09:10:42 QEMU graphical output ,, what is this and will a normal human need it ? Oct 30 09:10:47 hrw|work: hi Oct 30 09:11:01 hrw|work: the patch from RMK doesn't fix the hostap issue Oct 30 09:19:15 CoreDump|afk: hostap issue? Oct 30 09:20:07 XorA: hostap doesn't survive suspend / resume w/ 2617 Oct 30 09:20:27 CoreDump|afk: never has for me as I have prism3 cards Oct 30 09:22:44 XorA: heh Oct 30 09:22:59 apt-get install openembedded-essential Oct 30 09:23:01 it works ;) Oct 30 09:23:01 on suspend they power down and lose firmware Oct 30 09:23:12 XorA: any news on the alsa patch to fix 8k playback? Oct 30 09:23:19 CoreDump|home: patch has apparently gone to RP Oct 30 09:23:25 ahh great =) Oct 30 09:24:25 CoreDump|home: ASoC is now in alsa Oct 30 09:24:32 hi CoreDump|home XorA Oct 30 09:25:04 * XorA continues research into new router/server machine Oct 30 09:31:08 if i do mtn log conf/machine/compulab-pxa270.conf it spits too much not that file related reall ... (or do i miss something here ) Oct 30 09:33:29 oh hang on .. it does show related merges .. hmm ok i will check the mtn syntax a bit more ,, never mind Oct 30 09:37:31 rob_w: I guess you are looking for cbrake Oct 30 09:39:25 XorA, ,, will need to check .. Oct 30 09:39:59 now i bigger problem is that a fresh build breaks at glibc on creating packages .. right after the fisrt locale with a segfault Oct 30 09:40:13 rob_w: amd64? Oct 30 09:40:40 yes Oct 30 09:41:01 rob_w: disable LOCALE generation, qemu-arm doesnt work on amd64 Oct 30 09:41:14 XorA, how do i ? Oct 30 09:41:24 XorA, and can i really live with that ? Oct 30 09:41:45 rob_w: its fine as long as you speak ensligh :-) Oct 30 09:41:56 rob_w: or have >64M of ram on target Oct 30 09:42:07 ah ok ,, i can live with that Oct 30 09:42:22 having more then 64m could be true for me Oct 30 09:42:24 ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" Oct 30 09:42:38 into my local.conf , right ? Oct 30 09:42:49 yup Oct 30 09:48:47 morning Oct 30 09:49:24 hi mickeyl Oct 30 09:50:31 morning all Oct 30 09:57:29 morning guys Oct 30 10:00:34 I'm having a little trouble using the toolchain that got built with meta-toolchain... Oct 30 10:01:04 when trying to build alsa-lib with this toolchain, I'm getting errors about undefined references to `__dlopen' Oct 30 10:01:49 __dlopen comes from libdl... now looking at the toolchain, it looks like some of the symlinks are incorrect Oct 30 10:02:22 in the lib dir I see "libdl.so -> ../../lib/libdl.so.2" Oct 30 10:02:33 yet ../../lib/libdl.so.2 does not exist Oct 30 10:02:52 there are a lot of broken symlinks like this in the toolchains lib dir Oct 30 10:11:01 any ideas why the directory ends up looking like this ( http://rafb.net/paste/results/zuPLqz39.html ) Oct 30 10:49:49 hi Oct 30 10:54:16 hi nicolasfr Oct 30 11:06:58 RP, are u available for some compulab questions ? Oct 30 11:09:21 i cant find the reason why dbus-glib would fail as of missing dbus/dbus-shared.h Oct 30 11:09:34 i had the same issue at home yesterday Oct 30 11:10:16 ~lart my network Oct 30 11:10:17 * ibot eats my network's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti Oct 30 11:12:00 XorA: Was that patch in ASoC 0.12? Oct 30 11:12:14 RP: It should be Oct 30 11:12:27 XorA: ok, we need to upgrade linux-openzaurus then :) Oct 30 11:14:05 RP: we can now test before doing a release :) Oct 30 11:14:22 lrg: yay :) Oct 30 11:23:40 * CoreDump|home looks at the watch in his taskbar, then at his wristwatch Oct 30 11:23:51 ~curse DST Oct 30 11:23:59 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, DST ! Oct 30 11:32:11 yeah, the problem was definitely todo with those broken symlinks. Once I made the symlinks point to the correct files, the toolchain worked fine Oct 30 11:32:33 now to work out why they ended up incorrect from meta-toolchain Oct 30 11:36:40 could it be that the dbus .bb file doesnt correctly poplate_staging .. as i miss headers of dbus in my staging/arm/include/dbus-1.0 dir? Oct 30 11:37:06 hey Oct 30 11:45:08 hey zecke Oct 30 11:47:15 well, the problem is where it does "cp -pPR ${SDK_OUTPUT}/${prefix}/usr/* ${SDK_OUTPUT}/${prefix}/${TARGET_SYS}" Oct 30 11:47:28 cp -p tells it to preserve symlinks etc Oct 30 11:47:44 which causes the broken symlinks in the resulting toolchain Oct 30 11:49:49 ~lart my network Oct 30 11:49:49 * ibot burns my network to a crisp with a laser Oct 30 11:54:06 morning Oct 30 12:07:13 hi cbrake , Oct 30 12:07:37 ur u using compulab modules ?? i am asking as my company plans to use them also Oct 30 12:08:17 rob_w: yes, I am designing them into a project for a customer now Oct 30 12:08:40 and do you like them ? Oct 30 12:09:05 i are desperatly trying to get a eval kit with a cm270W Oct 30 12:09:23 but europe distribution on compulab sucks Oct 30 12:09:26 rob_w: overall, they are pretty good. I have a few gripes -- I don't like their proprietary NAND driver. Oct 30 12:09:48 rob_w: US dist of compulab is pretty bad too. Took us several weeks to get a couple dev kits. Oct 30 12:09:51 yeah i saw that they use binary module .. but i can live with that currently Oct 30 12:09:51 Hello everybody Oct 30 12:10:29 rob_w: Have you tried getting one direct from compulab? Oct 30 12:10:34 cbrake, maybe can align some day and have some chats about it .. i started a generic channel at #pxa270 Oct 30 12:11:01 RP, i also couldn reach some one in isreal directly Oct 30 12:11:13 rob_w: You have probably seen this site: http://raph.people.8d.com/armcore_kernel.php Oct 30 12:11:27 no . .. cool Oct 30 12:12:05 rob_w: I really like the price of the compulab module :-) Oct 30 12:12:57 rob_w: we will probably design our baseboard to also accept a logicPD module for backup. We have a deadline that we have to meet and if compulab does not come through, we'll just drop in LPD modules for the first prototype run. Oct 30 12:14:55 good point Oct 30 12:19:52 I have problems fetching packages from cvs.sourceforge.net. Am I alone with this problem? Oct 30 12:20:49 TEmiil: which recipe still use cvs.sf.net? Oct 30 12:25:35 I'm working on a db from 2006-10-24 and I can't update at the moment. Packages from cvs.sf are e.g. clucene, dvbstream, dvbtools, dvbtune, evidence, gaim and many more. Oct 30 12:26:32 ok - they all need to be moved from @cvs.sourceforge.net -> @PN.cvs.sourceforge.net Oct 30 12:27:49 hrw|work: thanks Oct 30 12:29:41 clucene fixed Oct 30 12:30:26 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r86cfb1f3... 10/ (1 packages/clucene/clucene_0.8.12-pre.bb): clucene: fix SRC_URI Oct 30 12:30:58 RP: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/performance-list/2006-October/msg00063.html Oct 30 12:36:44 koen|work: I was just dicussing that as it happens :) Oct 30 12:36:54 rob_w: Strange, I managed to talk to them ok :-/ Oct 30 12:40:20 TEmiil: fixed all Oct 30 12:40:47 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r91769829... 10/ (22 files in 16 dirs): many packages: fixed SRC_URI: SourceForge CVS moved from cvs.sf.net -> PN.cvs.sf.net Oct 30 12:42:41 [14:02] XorA: NOTE: Applying patch 'pangoxft2.10.6.diff' Oct 30 12:44:42 ich_: I've been working on scripts to measure the size of the .tar.bz2 rootfs, interested in info like that? Oct 30 13:03:36 argh.. Oct 30 13:03:41 X11 again killed my keyboard Oct 30 13:04:23 I love to be forced to restart X11 or machine.. Oct 30 13:04:50 hrw|work: I hear microsoft fixed that bug :-) Oct 30 13:05:16 XorA: I use microsoft keyboard Oct 30 13:05:54 hrw|work: so do I, but X has done that to every ps2 keyboard I ever owned, windows never hasd Oct 30 13:05:57 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rc4b03ec9... 10/ (20 files in 3 dirs): Oct 30 13:05:57 gtk+_2.10.6.bb : new .bb with a couple of patch tweaks from 2.10.3 and Oct 30 13:05:57 the addition of pangoxft patch from mailing list. Oct 30 13:06:20 XorA: sounds like 'get rid of that ps2 keyboard' Oct 30 13:11:52 oh no, mickeyl is suiciding :-) Oct 30 13:12:19 :/ Oct 30 13:13:24 mickey|sun, 's website is one of the page a look after to make my own professional website :) Oct 30 13:14:47 mickey|sun: thats true - his new site is nice Oct 30 13:15:00 XorA: 2xps/2 -> usb cable is 2 euro only Oct 30 13:15:58 koen|away: yes I'm interested in such a script :) Oct 30 13:16:06 koen|away: and it needs to be part of the tinderbox :) Oct 30 13:16:12 koen|away: it will be part of my model Oct 30 13:16:19 hrw|work: all my keyboards are now usb Oct 30 13:16:59 XorA: USB version of this keyboard is hard to get and cost ~60 eur Oct 30 13:17:32 XorA: ps/2 version is even harder to get but costed me 10 eur Oct 30 13:17:41 and I have one at home and second at work Oct 30 13:17:59 hrw|work: I have the Microsoft 4000 Egonomic Oct 30 13:18:23 XorA: Microsoft Natural Keyboard here Oct 30 13:19:31 XorA: 4000 is a keyboard to buy if one of Natural die Oct 30 13:20:15 ofcourse if one die then working one will be at home so company will have to buy me 4000 one. I'm unable to work on 'normal' keyboards Oct 30 13:23:09 hrw|work, hehe me too . but i do need to get me a non-ms ergo keyboard as successor .. this one is already 5 years old Oct 30 13:23:38 rob_w: mine are probably even older - I bought them used Oct 30 13:23:55 rob_w: and I did not found other new then ms 4000 model Oct 30 13:24:27 i think i saw some no-name ergo kb last time i check at my local mediamarkt Oct 30 13:24:54 rob_w: I prefer to use good keyboards. I checked many noname ergo ones Oct 30 13:25:18 rob_w: mostly they were so light that it was impossible to keep them in place during typing Oct 30 13:25:26 oh Oct 30 13:25:31 general question: What is the cleanest way to have a multi-threaded prog shutdown cleanly (kill all remaining threads when one dies)? Oct 30 13:26:15 rob_w, : ergonomic is not like MS ergonomic Oct 30 13:28:20 ( according to expert ) Oct 30 13:29:21 Not Recommended: Microsoft Natural Keyboard Elite Oct 30 13:29:29 http://www.rsihelp.com/compcurr_981208.shtml ( for example ) Oct 30 13:29:58 i read a lot of article on this subject. Oct 30 13:30:43 ( but you could still losing your money for bill ) Oct 30 13:32:22 morning Oct 30 13:32:46 yop chouimat Oct 30 13:33:17 http://www.typematrix.com/ seems good , but not cheap. Oct 30 13:35:59 Genesis: I like my natural one. wrists pain stopped when I switched to them ~2 years ago Oct 30 13:37:37 ops. its only 1.5 year not 2 Oct 30 13:37:46 http://hrw.one.pl/2005/04/05/poszukiwana-klawiatura/ (Polish only) Oct 30 13:44:45 drat, I accidentily removed the tex installation Oct 30 13:45:08 koen|away: all hail fink Oct 30 13:45:21 zecke2: right Oct 30 13:45:31 zecke2: but installing tex over EDGE sucks Oct 30 13:45:37 koen|work: apple made a mistake allowing you to be root on your system :) Oct 30 13:45:44 koen|work: at least you have EDGE available Oct 30 13:46:43 koen|work: No UMTS available? Oct 30 14:00:27 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra084572e... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS : complete my entry Oct 30 14:30:09 NAbyss: umts is too expensive here Oct 30 14:39:34 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Oct 30 15:14:04 anyone have a a glibc 2.6 recipie? Oct 30 15:14:16 sorry... 2.4.6 even Oct 30 15:14:19 2.3.6! Oct 30 15:15:05 hrw|work: There are some more packages using cvs.sf.net: devio, upslug2, upslug-native and linux-input. Oct 30 15:20:02 tkp: you could try out 2.3.3 with some edits... Oct 30 15:20:48 I'm using glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627 but was having trouble enabeling tls whilst building with tls support Oct 30 15:20:57 enabeling linuxthreads* Oct 30 15:21:24 tkp: copy a working distry line oz-unstable Oct 30 15:21:30 s/line/like/ Oct 30 15:27:11 just by way of curiosity, glibc 2.5+nptl is working fine on PPC, but i haven't run the test suite against it yet. Oct 30 15:32:34 AMDPenguin: did my mail regarding OLPC ever arrive? Oct 30 15:33:02 Not sure - I haven't gone through my e-mail completely yet Oct 30 15:33:36 yeah, found this thread http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90236 ) with lots of reports of the same problem... last post suggests that it is fixed in 2.3.6 Oct 30 15:33:56 CosmicPenguin: it is quite and old mail (in terms of weeks) Oct 30 15:34:07 Oh - yeah, I saw that Oct 30 15:34:13 did jg not get back to you? Oct 30 15:36:27 no :( Oct 30 15:57:46 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * ra5531d70... 10/ (1 packages/apr/apr_1.1.1.bb): apr: Fix SRC_URI Oct 30 16:06:09 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r93f3124c... 10/ (1 packages/apr/apr-util_1.1.2.bb): apr-util: fix SRC_URI Oct 30 16:11:59 is devpts deprecated ? Oct 30 16:13:18 * mrz80 is back (gone 01:33:45) Oct 30 16:43:50 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r80a3103a... 10/ (1 packages/cherokee/cherokee_0.5.3.bb): cherokee: update download URL due to website move Oct 30 16:50:19 re Oct 30 16:54:49 re :) Oct 30 16:57:06 hey Genesis Oct 30 16:57:49 lalalalalalalala Oct 30 16:58:53 hey chouimat|bored Oct 30 16:59:35 koen|work: I think bored is not the right work ... it think depress will be close enough Oct 30 17:00:18 I'm 'regular' bored Oct 30 17:00:51 koen|work: I hate my current contract ... I'm so tired of unfucking the work of incompetent people Oct 30 17:01:45 man... company where I work now is going into shit Oct 30 17:02:32 * chouimat|bored is listening to The May Song by The Gathering on The May Song [Amarok] Oct 30 17:04:19 the gathering rocks Oct 30 17:04:34 and I'm not saying that because they are dutch ;) Oct 30 17:05:07 Get:1 http://bindist.finkmirrors.net 10.4/release/main openmotif3-shlibs 2.2.2-5 [1318kB] Oct 30 17:05:10 *sigh* Oct 30 17:05:14 motif, schmotif Oct 30 17:05:40 ~lart me for removing /sw Oct 30 17:05:40 * ibot breaks out the Hoover and sucks up koen|work for removing /sw Oct 30 17:06:04 koen|away, : i saw them in concert Oct 30 17:06:08 i love them a lot :) Oct 30 17:06:22 Anneke ;x ;x Oct 30 17:06:33 :) Oct 30 17:08:30 koen|away, ; have you the fix song with anneke in feat ? Oct 30 17:09:05 Fix from Lawn ( dutch also ) Oct 30 17:09:29 I have heard it, but I don't have it on my laptop right now Oct 30 17:11:30 that's available on the net, i would be sure you heard it , i like :) Oct 30 17:12:36 a+ Oct 30 17:23:41 hi Oct 30 17:28:20 hey nicolasfr Oct 30 17:28:44 Hi koen! I made good progress, and I think I have found a solution for the touchscreen Oct 30 17:28:50 nicolasfr: cool! Oct 30 17:29:28 2 problems: when bitbaking zaurus kernel image, all modules are packaged in one tgz file. How can I do the same for my target (get all the modules in one big archive)? I have looked in all the recipes but found no evidence... Oct 30 17:29:44 nicolasfr: the the .inc Oct 30 17:29:49 s/the the/check the/ Oct 30 17:30:15 I did... the machine .inc you mean, not the distro one? Oct 30 17:31:05 the kernel .inc Oct 30 17:31:09 linux-openzaurus.inc Oct 30 17:31:10 cu Oct 30 17:31:19 iirc there's a do_deploy section Oct 30 17:31:53 hrw|gone: cu. talk later (still not finished the talk about the tablet) Oct 30 17:32:20 nicolasfr: 'ipkg install kernel-modules' will install all kernel-modules as well Oct 30 17:32:41 koen: ok. I tought I looked at linux-openzaurus.inc, must have overlooked. Oct 30 17:33:09 koen|work: right, but no network yet (have to change the wifi card, prism I too old for wpa) Oct 30 17:33:23 and second question: Oct 30 17:34:14 I need to load xf86-input driver for the touchscreen. Can I do that with Kdrive, or should I use the full Xorg (can't find any xorg.conf with Kdrive)? Oct 30 17:34:53 kdrive has no config file Oct 30 17:35:12 iirc Xorg has acceleration for the geode chipset Oct 30 17:35:16 * koen|work looks at CosmicPenguin Oct 30 17:36:01 hmm? Oct 30 17:36:09 yes - much 2D love Oct 30 17:36:23 I hope it is not broken like the kernel geode framebuffer driver (does not work with scx200) Oct 30 17:36:35 I would submit its the scx200 thats proken Oct 30 17:36:45 hehe Oct 30 17:36:47 Does DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS work properly now? Oct 30 17:37:18 Ken|JLime: if you use task-base, it has worked since its inception :) Oct 30 17:37:48 koen|away, oki, it doesnt affect opie-image then? :D Seems like I will need to setup my task-base variables then Oct 30 17:37:49 other problem will be APM. When enabling APM at boot time the webpad hangs when detecting IDE drives... Maybe loading APM as a module would work. Oct 30 17:38:55 koen|work, CosmicPenguin: thanks for the tips, now I have some work now to compile / test / ... !! Oct 30 17:41:08 But I am quite sure that the gx1fb should work for the scx200 Oct 30 17:41:16 well - the sc1200 Oct 30 17:41:33 the sc1100 you are SOL - but if you have a sc1100 then you already know that Oct 30 17:41:57 CosmicPenguin: gx1fb does not work with my sc3200 Oct 30 17:42:27 huh - really? Oct 30 17:43:08 CosmicPenguin: I have a doubt now. Let's recompile the kernel. Oct 30 17:44:10 It should match on the 5530 - but maybe the PCI IDs are bad Oct 30 17:44:19 if so, you can just add the 1200 PCI ID and go Oct 30 17:45:57 CosmicPenguin: I downloaded the 2.4 scx200 drivers to have a look, and indeed as the 2.6 kernel drivers are based upon these one, it should work. Or could that be an initialisation pb as the screen is a LCD, ? Cause when booting all I had was a black screen Oct 30 17:46:23 you would have to check the logs Oct 30 17:46:33 it might be a init problem - TFTs are specially evil Oct 30 17:50:47 * nicolasfr compiling kernel with gx1fb Oct 30 17:51:36 if i'm doing a new distribution, should i be using the task framework (as opposed to meta)??? Oct 30 17:58:57 bbl Oct 30 18:02:41 HopsNBarley: ideally on task-base Oct 30 18:02:53 HopsNBarley: but there's no clear-cut answer Oct 30 18:03:17 HopsNBarley: generally it's a good idea to re-use stuff, so you can benefit from other people maintaining it :) Oct 30 18:05:10 koen|away, as always, thanks. Oct 30 18:06:35 * koen|work gets back to work Oct 30 18:06:41 later all Oct 30 18:14:33 what's ${TARGET_PREFIX}-libc-for-gcc used for? Oct 30 18:31:21 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * ra476ffb3... 10/ (1 packages/libgsm/libgsm_1.0.10.bb): libgsm/libgsm_1.0.10.bb : Fix broken Source URL Oct 30 18:51:10 hrw|gone, qt-embedded-2.3.10-snapshot-20060120.tar.gz - what's that? why such size (35mb+)? Oct 30 18:52:08 hrw|gone, nevermind, got it, that angstrom.conf change ;-\ Oct 30 18:58:51 hi psokolovsky_ :) Oct 30 18:58:55 hi Oct 30 18:58:59 hi mallum Oct 30 18:59:09 hey hrw Oct 30 18:59:22 psokolovsky_: it's qt/e 2.3.12 Oct 30 18:59:34 iirc Oct 30 19:00:11 exactly even Oct 30 19:04:15 does anyone know what the pangoxft patch to gtk 2.10 does? Is it supposed to render text faster than pangocairo? Oct 30 19:04:58 mreimer: it rip off whole cairo support and replace it with older xft one Oct 30 19:05:06 for speed? Oct 30 19:05:08 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/performance-list/2006-October/msg00063.html Oct 30 19:05:16 thanks hrw Oct 30 19:05:21 mreimer: yes. 2.10.6 with it is nearly as fast as 2.6.10 was Oct 30 19:05:28 excellent! Oct 30 19:06:10 let me guess.. someone add this patch without any info in header? Oct 30 19:08:20 the commit message just said something like "add pangoxft patch blah blah" Oct 30 19:08:57 ~lart XorA|gone twice Oct 30 19:08:57 * ibot wallops XorA|gone twice with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long Oct 30 19:09:25 commits related to performance should be lit up in neon Oct 30 19:11:02 mreimer: added info into patch Oct 30 19:11:08 thanks hrw Oct 30 19:11:44 XorA|gone: Revision: 4f486fe49ed95af12df6a4785d44c9e0cc611b64 Oct 30 19:12:09 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4f486fe4... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gtk+-2.10.6/pangoxft2.10.6.diff): gtk+ 2.10.6: added information about pangoxft2.10.6.diff in its header Oct 30 19:12:09 XorA|gone: *please* do such things on such *important* things Oct 30 19:34:54 mhhh ... what is the 'action' that build rootfs ? i'm writing a 'base-image.bb' ... but obtain a about empty image, no kernel, no busybox ... but such packages are in task-base ... i don't understand :( Oct 30 19:37:59 gremlin[it]: look at user-manual Oct 30 19:38:24 gremlin[it]: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch05s04 Oct 30 19:38:49 hrw ... i was asking what chapter ;) ... thanks ;) Oct 30 19:39:06 for info there's a typo in xorg-xserver-common.inc: "install -m0644 ${WORKDIR}/xorg.conf ${D}/etc/X11/" missing space in -m644 Oct 30 19:39:07 I wrote that part ;) Oct 30 19:39:12 hi hrw Oct 30 19:39:35 of docs Oct 30 19:41:27 nicolasfr: pull Oct 30 19:41:42 hrw have sense if DEPENDS == RDEPENDS == IPKG_INSTALL ? Oct 30 19:42:16 gremlin[it]: DEPENDS = "" and RDEPENDS = "${IPKG_INSTALL}" make sense Oct 30 19:42:16 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r16e70dbf... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-xserver/xorg-xserver-common.inc): xorg-xserver-common: add missing space to install invocation - spotted by nicolasfr/#oe Oct 30 19:42:28 hrw: thanks Oct 30 19:42:29 ok ;) Oct 30 19:43:17 hrw, know any good way to include stuff into opie-image without needing to create local copy? Oct 30 19:43:48 hrw: we did not finish the talk about the tablet. do you want it? Oct 30 19:45:05 moment Oct 30 19:46:05 Ken|JLime: use task-base and DISTRO_EXTRA_RDEPENDS (which will add some stuff into base system and then opie-image will get it) Oct 30 19:46:10 hrw !!!! i got it !!! thanks ... Oct 30 19:46:17 Ken|JLime: otherwise do own image Oct 30 19:46:22 hrw, ah right. Thx man Oct 30 19:46:23 gremlin[it]: no problem Oct 30 19:46:55 one error was that on poky it use PACKAGE_INSTALL instead of IPKG_INSTALL :( Oct 30 19:47:13 nicolasfr: its x86, 64/128M ram, internal hdd and has 1024x768 touchscreen - am I right? Oct 30 19:47:28 gremlin[it]: its not error but improvement Oct 30 19:47:40 that's it. 6g internal drive (2'5 I think) Oct 30 19:47:48 ahhh ... ok so i miss part of the improvement :) Oct 30 19:47:50 128M ram Oct 30 19:48:05 gremlin[it]: poky is going into using not only ipkg packages. sooner or later it will get merged back to OE Oct 30 19:48:37 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * ra311c0ba... 10/ (1 packages/jikes/jikes_1.22.bb): Oct 30 19:48:37 jikes: link jikes to javac.jikes for update-alternatives Oct 30 19:48:37 - This also fixes a packaging error Oct 30 19:48:48 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r05128f55... 10/ (1 packages/jikes/jikes_1.22.bb): Oct 30 19:48:48 jikes: link jikes to javac.jikes for update-alternatives Oct 30 19:48:48 - This also fixes a packaging error Oct 30 19:49:25 nicolasfr: sounds like nice toy to tweak. how bad linux support it has? some work to do on it for OE? machine config? kernel? stuff? Oct 30 19:50:17 hi _law_ Oct 30 19:50:24 <_law_> hi hrw Oct 30 19:51:31 hrw: never had time to install linux (need to order a 2'5 ide to usb cable), but the progear shipped two OS linux or windows; it means linux is supported, plus I think some dudes wrote kernel 2.6 drivers for touchscreen, battery, joystick, ... So needs some tweaking, but adding support in OE is doable. Oct 30 19:51:35 hi _law_ Oct 30 19:51:44 <_law_> hi nicolasfr Oct 30 19:52:27 _law_: how's the card applet projects going? did you have some spare time for it? Oct 30 19:52:30 nicolasfr: when do you expect it to be OE supported? Oct 30 19:53:04 <_law_> nicolasfr: config-file support works, next step is to build better card detection... Oct 30 19:53:20 hrw: I don't need OE support for it. It's up to you if you want to play with it Oct 30 19:53:59 hrw, just a quick howto. I add stuff into distro_extra_rdepends, build task-base and then build opie-image after that? Oct 30 19:54:19 _law_: great! Oct 30 19:54:23 Ken|JLime: it will work if your distro and machines are converted to task-base way Oct 30 19:54:35 Ken|JLime: so DISTRO_FEATURES, MACHINE_FEATURES are defined Oct 30 19:54:55 hrw, Oki, will need to look into that then thx Oct 30 19:55:05 _law_: do you have option to set 'do not touch this pcmcia slot at all'? Oct 30 19:55:07 <_law_> nicolasfr: i was on holidays in budapest the last few days. now i?ll work ony mb-card-applet again.. Oct 30 19:55:28 _law_: mb-card-applet? it is based on pdaX one? Oct 30 19:55:35 <_law_> hrw: i can include everything you want :-) Oct 30 19:55:41 <_law_> hrw: yes Oct 30 19:56:11 _law_: then add option for this. it is essential on c3x00 as they have rootfs on internal CF slot Oct 30 19:56:21 _law_: so user should not touch it Oct 30 19:56:48 _law_: under 2.6 you can use /sys/block/ for all informations. Oct 30 19:56:56 <_law_> hrw: ok i?ll note this Oct 30 19:57:17 _law_: remember also that pcmcia-cs ioctl() calls are removed in 2.6.18+ Oct 30 19:58:13 _law_: pcmcia subsystem export needed data in /sys/ too. I do not know (and dont want to) how it was under 2.4 Oct 30 19:59:25 _law_: which devices you have currently to test it on? Oct 30 19:59:44 <_law_> hrw: collie, c760 Oct 30 20:00:23 Hello Oct 30 20:00:27 hi sirfred Oct 30 20:00:46 sirfred: how many w100 capable machines you have? Oct 30 20:00:56 hrw: One. Oct 30 20:01:04 hrw: A Husky (c760) Oct 30 20:01:49 I'm thinking about adding my c760 into OE project devices. I do not use it recently (have OE tosa and OE spitz) Oct 30 20:02:26 hrw: What's that about. Some kind of machines that can be used by developers to do testing? Oct 30 20:02:37 sirfred: yes Oct 30 20:02:46 hrw: That's nice. Oct 30 20:02:48 http://www.openembedded.org/projectdevices Oct 30 20:02:59 hrw: Somebody reported me some problems with libw100 and a w3200 Oct 30 20:03:20 But most of demos worked, it seems they're mostly compatible. Oct 30 20:03:27 thats hx4700 iirc? Oct 30 20:04:24 hrw: Yes. Oct 30 20:04:58 RP: Hello. Oct 30 20:05:32 RP: A question about w100 and expected bandwidth. Is there a way to calculate how much throughput could we expect? Oct 30 20:05:53 RP: Do you have any info about the bus? Oct 30 20:17:31 sirfred: Toshiba Eseries was w100? Oct 30 20:17:43 nicolasfr: where do you live? Oct 30 20:17:45 hrw: Yes. I think so. Oct 30 20:18:26 hrw: I think the e740 was IMAGEON 100, later models had better chips. Oct 30 20:20:56 hrw: france! (paris) Oct 30 20:28:48 nicolasfr: you got pm Oct 30 20:30:22 hrw: yes, I have answered, don't you see it? I think I have pb with pm Oct 30 20:31:11 nicolasfr: mail me at openembedded - hrw one pl so I will get your email Oct 30 20:33:05 Gauloisde: hi Oct 30 20:33:09 wb koen Oct 30 20:33:15 hey Oct 30 20:33:44 hey hrw Oct 30 20:34:06 Hey koen Oct 30 20:34:14 hey Gauloisde Oct 30 20:34:25 Koen gerwin here :) Oct 30 20:34:42 hey gerwinin :) Oct 30 20:35:04 gerwinin: I'm a bit closer to your location now Oct 30 20:35:31 Koen where are you know than ? Oct 30 20:35:39 terneuzen Oct 30 20:36:19 Did you finish studying Oct 30 20:37:40 gerwinin: no, working during autumn break Oct 30 20:38:32 Koen: What kind of work ? Oct 30 20:41:21 gerwinin: measuring people for bulletproof vests Oct 30 20:41:28 koen: cool Oct 30 20:41:38 how long do you have to do this? Oct 30 20:42:29 this week, and maybe some time in 2007.1 Oct 30 20:43:15 I guess it keeps you off the streets :) Oct 30 20:43:19 gerwinin: s/people/young chicks/ Oct 30 20:44:31 hrw : ? Oct 30 20:44:41 30 22:02 < koen> gerwinin: measuring people for bulletproof vests Oct 30 20:45:30 hrw: they ran out of young chicks :( Oct 30 20:45:48 koen: only old, fat & ugly left? Oct 30 20:45:59 koen: shit happens ;( Oct 30 20:46:04 hrw: yep Oct 30 20:46:48 Koen: I am watching this beauty and the nerd go dutch show jesus those girls are really dumb Oct 30 20:47:00 gerwinin: ehm Oct 30 20:47:11 gerwinin: the scary twins are from my uni Oct 30 20:48:46 Koen: hahahaha, well it gives me a reason again not to watch the commercial channels anymore Oct 30 20:49:35 nicolasfr: mail sent Oct 30 20:52:02 bugdays next weekend Oct 30 20:52:48 announce it on ml Oct 30 20:53:12 vpn is down :( Oct 30 20:55:44 past from split is also split? Oct 30 20:55:54 not splitted - right? Oct 30 20:56:09 ibot: spell splitted Oct 30 20:56:11 possible spellings for splitted: split ted split-ted splatted slitted spitted splinted splitter plotted slotted spotted spited platted slatted spatted Oct 30 20:56:17 koen: i know of one person who left your uni, came to my uni, and immediately got married :/ Oct 30 20:56:18 ~thx Oct 30 20:56:22 np Oct 30 20:56:31 koen: though, not a chick, so I guess doesn't matter so much Oct 30 20:59:05 time to check does my patch still apply to linux-git Oct 30 21:01:10 Koen: We need to meet up soon still got some hardware that was donated Oct 30 21:02:13 someone remember how to revert local change in git tree? Oct 30 21:03:48 gerwinin: right Oct 30 21:04:14 gerwinin there is some conference at the tu/e 20061203 Oct 30 21:04:24 gerwinin: zecke and plan to attend Oct 30 21:04:29 * koen looks at zecke2 Oct 30 21:05:02 Yeah it is organised by Jeroen en Jean-Paul , I am in the organisation as well Oct 30 21:05:36 JoseJX: hey, are you still trying to make sense of that sharp sd driver? Oct 30 21:08:25 Koen/Zecke you guys want to do a talk about oe ? Oct 30 21:11:42 gerwinin: that or just be obnoxious in our OE t-shirts ;)_ Oct 30 21:11:46 s:_:: Oct 30 21:11:54 :) I want to buy an oe shirt Oct 30 21:13:25 * v8jlene is back Oct 30 21:13:54 v8jlene: wb Oct 30 21:13:56 later all Oct 30 21:14:06 Later Koen Oct 30 21:14:08 cu koen Oct 30 21:14:09 morning Oct 30 21:14:20 koen: greet Nynke from me when you meet her Oct 30 21:41:55 zecke2, got a sec? Oct 30 22:01:06 BYe Oct 30 22:14:49 I'm debugging the touch driver on a PXA270 system. It seems that struct device_driver->probe function is never getting called. Should this get called every time the driver is registered with driver_register()? Oct 30 22:15:47 cu Oct 30 22:15:54 n8 all Oct 30 22:15:59 gn Oct 30 22:43:25 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0ae51585... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Oct 30 22:43:25 iproute2 2.6.16: Add the tc (used for QoS) command back to iproute. It was Oct 30 22:43:25 being left out due to errors compiling it when using recent versions of Oct 30 22:43:25 flex, such as the one included in OE. The fix is to patch the flex input so Oct 30 22:43:25 that there are no longer any conflicts with variables from the newer version Oct 30 22:43:25 of flex. Oct 30 22:55:05 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r36e2aedf... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): iproute2 2.6.18: Add verison 2.6.18 to pick up the new tc monitor command. Oct 30 23:09:58 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 31 02:59:57 2006