**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Nov 05 02:59:57 2006 Nov 05 06:58:28 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1278dc47... 10/ (1 packages/cherokee/cherokee_0.5.3.bb): Nov 05 06:58:28 cherokee 0.5.3: Update the HOMEPAGE for the web site move so other Nov 05 06:58:28 people don't have spend time trying to find out where it has gone. Nov 05 06:58:28 Somelse else update the SRC_URI a few days to take into account this Nov 05 06:58:28 change. Nov 05 08:19:02 good morning all Nov 05 09:32:41 morning all Nov 05 09:33:55 hey RP Nov 05 09:35:47 http://surfnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/libw100/mplayer-imageon.patch is surprisingly small Nov 05 09:36:04 What's the magic fix to dbus-glib compile problems? Nov 05 09:37:53 koen: Most of the work looks to be done in the external library Nov 05 09:37:58 RP: DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1" :) Nov 05 09:38:28 RP: would it make sense to have a flag or machine feature for 'w100', 'pxafb', 'mxbfb' ? Nov 05 09:39:43 koen: Not sure. I guess once we have some of these patches in OE, it might... Nov 05 09:40:22 hi psokolovsky Nov 05 09:40:52 Hi! Nov 05 09:41:49 RP: you'd want to merge the new binconfig.bbclass into poky to get a lot of .la files fixed Nov 05 09:42:09 koen: I'll keep that in mind, thanks :) Nov 05 09:42:49 koen: I have some holiday this week but I'll probably be doing some poky hacking next week Nov 05 09:43:18 RP: remove the batteries from your laptop Nov 05 09:44:38 koen: and the power lead from my desktop I'm using now? :) Nov 05 09:44:39 * koen looks at http://www.atomiser.org/ Nov 05 09:44:46 RP: yes Nov 05 09:45:15 good morning Nov 05 09:45:37 hi florian Nov 05 09:46:09 532 open bugs now so we've cleared a few of them... Nov 05 09:54:55 RP: yeah, my inbox looked quite funny this morning Nov 05 09:55:22 koen: ;-) Nov 05 10:26:56 Hmm. #1487 is quite nasty :-/ Nov 05 10:32:04 math people shouldn't be allowed to code Nov 05 10:32:08 * koen stabs giac Nov 05 10:42:02 koen: :-) Nov 05 10:42:04 bbl Nov 05 10:53:22 03rpurdie * r629 10bitbake/lib/bb/parse/parse_py/BBHandler.py: BBHandler.py: make inherit fail if the class doesn't exist (#1478) Nov 05 10:59:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2778861... 10/ (1 packages/fltk/fltk_1.1.4.bb): fltk: add 1.1.4 + fldevice patch, needed for giac 0.6.x Nov 05 11:10:37 morning mickeyl Nov 05 11:10:42 hey mickeyl Nov 05 11:19:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rdc025c25... 10/ (41 files in 6 dirs): linux-oz-2.6: Add some modules (#1438), also add some missing files for the +git kernel Nov 05 11:19:31 hi Nov 05 11:19:45 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r2fb021b9... 10/ (1 packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel.inc): ixp4xx-kernel: Removed support for ds101 Nov 05 11:25:19 mickeyl: ncurses? Nov 05 11:25:55 ~curse koen Nov 05 11:25:57 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, koen ! Nov 05 11:26:04 :D Nov 05 11:27:49 RP: re. bluez-utils.inc... does combining --disable-alsa w/ --with-alsa make sense? Nov 05 11:28:04 mickeyl: When you read the autofoo, yes :-/ Nov 05 11:28:10 ah ok Nov 05 11:28:20 but one --disable-alsa will do, right? Nov 05 11:28:30 mickeyl: Er, yes :) Nov 05 11:28:31 I'll remove the second one then Nov 05 11:28:34 hehe,k Nov 05 11:28:49 mickeyl: I think my brain had melted by that point... Nov 05 11:29:04 RP: understandable, if you looked at autofoo stuff Nov 05 11:30:16 mickeyl: Basically if you don't specifiy --with-alsa= etc, it will use /usr/include and /usr/lib and those libs then leak into the Makefiles, even if it isn't planning to use them Nov 05 11:30:28 s/libs/dirs/ Nov 05 11:30:34 argh, nasty Nov 05 11:30:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r668cc2c8... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils.inc): bluez-utils.inc: remove duplicate --disable-alsa Nov 05 11:32:57 We really need someone to triage the bugzilla now and again Nov 05 11:33:27 I'm mostly wading through stuff that's been resolved but not marked as such :-/ Nov 05 11:33:33 *nod* this bugmaster we talked about Nov 05 11:33:56 some kind of filtering / housekeeping buddy Nov 05 11:34:11 some of the OE steering RFCs are also still pending. i just didn't have any timeslots Nov 05 11:34:20 There are also bugs here I didn't know about but it would be useful if I did :-/ Nov 05 11:34:50 Like the quilt dependency issue with bitbake trunk multithreading... Nov 05 11:35:06 I suspected something like it might happen but a concrete example is good... Nov 05 11:43:16 Does someone tries already Stowaway Bluetooth Keyboard with, for example, hx4700? Nov 05 11:48:53 re Nov 05 11:54:50 Or, maybe, Brando Mini Bluetooth Keyboard? Nov 05 11:55:12 if it's HID, it should work without too much effort Nov 05 11:55:20 if it's SPP, you need kbdd Nov 05 11:59:54 koen|gprs: Thank You. Nov 05 12:09:51 mickeyl: maybe it's faster to do a gtk+ frontend for bitbake ;) Nov 05 12:14:04 * RP -> back later Nov 05 12:20:19 :D Nov 05 12:22:02 re Nov 05 12:22:10 installing Debian 'sid' amd64 now Nov 05 12:22:55 speaking about bugmaster... I was thinking of becaming him Nov 05 12:24:01 Hi everyone Nov 05 12:24:12 hey hrw & Laibsch Nov 05 12:24:50 What is a good interface designer app for OE targetted apps? I guess that depends on whether to use opie or gpe. Can you recommend one for both? Nov 05 12:25:04 Laibsch: gtk or qt? Nov 05 12:25:11 I am playing around with glade but find it horrible. Nov 05 12:25:20 Laibsch: gtk is horrible Nov 05 12:25:21 hrw: how about one for each? ;-) Nov 05 12:25:27 qt-designer for qt Nov 05 12:25:30 hrw: ??? Nov 05 12:25:32 glade for gtk Nov 05 12:25:53 Laibsch: glade1, glade2 or glade3 ? Nov 05 12:25:57 Laibsch: or gazpacho? Nov 05 12:26:00 I thought gtk was the accepted way to go if possible and that qt should be abandoned? Nov 05 12:26:16 koen|gprs: glade2 on ubuntu Nov 05 12:26:19 qt2 should be abandoned Nov 05 12:26:25 qt4 is a future Nov 05 12:26:36 wow, all very complicated. Nov 05 12:27:07 Can I link against qt4 in OE now? Nov 05 12:27:18 btw: 640x480 framebuffer suxx on desktop Nov 05 12:27:20 I would update some of my bb files. Nov 05 12:27:55 iirc we have qt4 in OE. but I do not know how recent one Nov 05 12:28:11 4.1.2 Nov 05 12:28:29 As always, everything in flux. Hard to keep up with the pace. Nov 05 12:28:33 are there actually apps in OE that can use qt4? Nov 05 12:28:57 iirc lyx and wpagui still use qt3 Nov 05 12:28:58 koen|gprs: iirc not. wpa-gui can be moved to qt4 Nov 05 12:29:06 lyx as well Nov 05 12:29:47 with qt4 we could use cleanlooks so gtk and qt apps would look the same Nov 05 12:30:47 first need to update to 4.2.x Nov 05 12:31:43 the bugdays seem to be quite successfull, looking at the number of bugs closed Nov 05 12:33:17 when was the last bugday? Nov 05 12:33:40 today Nov 05 12:34:32 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-announce/2006-November/000003.html Nov 05 12:35:19 tomorrow Nov 05 12:35:35 bugdays are first weekend. weekend means Friday -> Monday Nov 05 12:36:57 cu Nov 05 12:39:04 hrw|gone: nice work on the deb meta packages, BTW, Marcin. I was thinking that some meta-package like this could save headaches for a few people but never got around to creating it. Nov 05 12:39:11 * Laibsch marks this off his list ;-) Nov 05 12:39:20 So, today is still bugday? Nov 05 12:39:35 yes Nov 05 12:39:38 * Laibsch looks through his stuff. Nov 05 12:44:54 Can I get a list of the bugs who changed status in the last 7 days for example? Nov 05 12:44:57 http://bugs.openembedded.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&chfieldfrom=-7&chfieldto=Now&chfield=bug_st Nov 05 12:45:10 does not look like it Nov 05 12:45:49 try Nov 05 12:46:25 http://tinyurl.com/yhosqg Nov 05 12:47:03 so 45 bugs fixed :) Nov 05 12:54:00 hrw|gone: I updated http://www.openembedded.org/oeandyourdistro to reflect your work. Thanks again. Nov 05 12:54:49 koen|away: No, that is cheating ;-) You set a fixed date. I want a floating date (last 7 days). Nov 05 12:59:38 1w is the keyword ;-) Nov 05 13:14:32 bug 1517 is open for closure as well, once the patch I attached a minute ago is committed. Nov 05 13:14:47 Anyone with write access willing to commit? Nov 05 13:33:46 hi Nov 05 13:51:46 Laibsch, Hi! I'll have a look if noone else beat me. Nov 05 13:52:40 psokolovsky: Thanks. It should be easy and straightforward. Nov 05 14:01:38 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rcc0c9066... 10/ (1 conf/machine/navman-icn330.conf): navman-icn330: Note about touchscreen not confirmed. Nov 05 14:03:46 Laibsch, only seconf patch needs to be applied, right? Nov 05 14:04:49 The first attachment is not even a patch. It is just a listing of affected packages. Nov 05 14:04:59 psokolovsky: in short: yes Nov 05 14:05:24 Laibsch, so, what about first? ;-) Nov 05 14:05:56 * koen practises for the upcoming OE world domination Nov 05 14:06:16 eating kong-po ngau with chopsticks :) Nov 05 14:07:33 ;-) Nov 05 14:08:10 psokolovsky: The first attachment is not even a patch. It is just a listing of affected packages. Nov 05 14:08:30 Laibsch, and? you expect me to process it manually, eh? ;-) Nov 05 14:08:50 psokolovsky: No Nov 05 14:08:54 of course not. Nov 05 14:09:07 All the ones that are left to fix are in the second patch. Nov 05 14:09:08 Laibsch, you mean it's already applied? Nov 05 14:09:16 You can then mark 1517 as fixed. Nov 05 14:09:20 yes Nov 05 14:09:21 Laibsch, cool, closing bug. Thanks! Nov 05 14:09:27 thank you. Nov 05 14:15:22 psokolovsky: you could zap cxxflags in opie-console.bb Nov 05 14:16:39 koen, only in that .bb? I'll try, though hrw/zecke say qte also may be affected? Nov 05 14:17:42 I yet need to refresh me on what that swicth exactly does ;-) Nov 05 14:19:18 it hides symbols to make linking and stuff faster Nov 05 14:19:23 and binaries smaller Nov 05 15:07:36 RP: you probably don't want to hear it (hehe) but err, halt == reboot on Poodle 2.6.17 (.oz) Nov 05 15:12:19 * koen scratches head Nov 05 15:16:51 ah, target_arch isn't set directly via ixp4xx.conf Nov 05 15:21:06 morning Nov 05 15:21:13 hey chouimat Nov 05 15:34:06 djeez Nov 05 15:34:14 this slugos crap is pissing me off Nov 05 15:34:25 bb.parse.SkipPackage: slugos kernels require SLUGOS_IMAGESEX Nov 05 15:34:59 It seems that you have to set endiannes inside machine.conf *and* inside the kernel Nov 05 15:35:03 which makes no sense Nov 05 15:37:07 hi koen Nov 05 15:37:42 morning all Nov 05 15:37:46 hey cyrilRomain Nov 05 15:37:53 hi koen Nov 05 15:39:45 hi Nov 05 15:40:14 bonjour cyrilRomain :) Nov 05 16:36:24 hi Nov 05 16:36:40 hey Bernardo Nov 05 16:37:03 how are things, koen? I saw on the mailing list there is a bughunt day today Nov 05 16:37:17 things are pretty good on my end? Nov 05 16:37:22 how's life in portugal? Nov 05 16:37:55 the same... I need to get out of here before I go crazy Nov 05 16:37:58 :) Nov 05 16:41:31 CoreDump|home: reboot = halt on poodle as the bootloader is broken. Nothing I can do Nov 05 16:42:09 RP: I see, thanks ;) Nov 05 16:44:07 look, I've just been getting up to speed again, managed to build meta-opie for the oz354x branch, but now have a problem with "file", arm-linux-strip fails with libmagic.la Nov 05 16:47:24 wrong window Nov 05 16:50:29 Does anyone happen to have a copy of bluez-libs-3.7.tar.gz somewhere online? My google powers seem to have failed me... Nov 05 16:50:48 RP: let me check Nov 05 16:51:28 nope... only 2.21 here Nov 05 16:51:54 me neither Nov 05 16:54:20 I can't even connect to bluez.sf.net right now to download 2.25 Nov 05 16:54:38 RP: I have it but not online Nov 05 16:54:50 RP: I can send it to you though, it is only 300Ko Nov 05 16:55:35 cyrilRomain: yes, please if you could (rpurdie@rpsys.net) Nov 05 16:57:40 RP: sent Nov 05 16:58:14 cyrilRomain: thanks Nov 05 16:59:10 koen: Have you any thoughts on switching tslib away from detect-stylus for 2.6 ipaqs? Nov 05 17:08:02 Has anybody worked with ppp-2.4.4, I believe one h6300 user is bitten by ppp-2.4.3 bug reported in http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=306820 Nov 05 17:08:37 after connection between ppp0 <--> /ttyS1 is established it closes to following error: Apr 28 02:02:01 localhost pppd[31486]: tcsetattr: Invalid argument (line 964) Nov 05 17:08:58 For me the ppp 2.4.3 works ok for gprs connections, but I have different isp. Nov 05 17:11:09 If not, I could try to create bb for it. Nov 05 17:19:18 RP: it was held back because the hh.org kernel used an old 2.6 kernel Nov 05 17:19:30 RP: but since it works on my h2200 and hx4700.... Nov 05 17:23:55 I am currently unable to build file or bluez-libs, as strip tries to run (and fails) on .la files Nov 05 17:24:16 that on distro openzaurus-3.5.4.2, machine akita Nov 05 17:24:30 branch oz354x Nov 05 17:24:38 any idea? Nov 05 17:25:04 RP, koen: it would nice to establish convention on using /dev/input/touchscreen0 (or how it is called) for all devices. Nov 05 17:25:34 psokolovsky: that needs a pretty recent kernel + udev Nov 05 17:26:45 koen, or adhoc symlinks in device-specific init, so why not let old stuff adhere in such way Nov 05 17:29:11 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rd3b6b9d3... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): zaurus-updater-reloaded: Add a new version of the zaurus updater.sh. Nov 05 17:29:30 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r02901298... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): keymaps: patch for poodle 2.6 keymap to work better in opie. Courtesy hvontres Nov 05 17:29:39 03bugs.openembedded.org 07org.oe.dev * re9d6f968... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Nov 05 17:29:39 devio-cvs, upslug2-cvs: Fix remaining cases of old SF.net CVS URLs. Nov 05 17:29:39 * Fixes #1517. Nov 05 17:30:11 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r408bb957... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Unslung: slingbox: upgrade slingbox to busybox 1.2.2 Nov 05 17:30:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra337f475... 10/ (1 classes/gpe.bbclass): gpe.bbclass: make SRC_URI a weak assignment Nov 05 17:30:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r18e3911c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): angstrom: add support for ixp4xx/LE and disable NLS for uclibc Nov 05 17:30:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r71e5616f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel.inc): ixp4xx-kernel.inc: set mandatory COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and add EABI magic Nov 05 17:31:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4d527e7f... 10/ (1 packages/linux/e680-kernel_2.6.bb): e680-kernel_2.6.bb: remove MACHINE=e680 Nov 05 17:31:18 constipation? Nov 05 17:31:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re747fbd5... 10/ (1 packages/tslib/tslib_1.0.bb): tslib: don't use detect-stylus for h2200, hx4700 and h5xxx. Feel free to remove others if the new udev rule for /dev/input/touchscreen0 works Nov 05 17:31:57 psokolovsky: there you go Nov 05 17:32:45 finally Nov 05 17:32:47 Angstrom-bootstrap-image-test-20061105-ixp4xx.rootfs.tar.bz2 Nov 05 17:33:07 ok! Nov 05 17:33:10 it only needed a zillion magic vars Nov 05 17:34:12 ibot: botmail for likewise: I've got an eabi rootfs for ixp4xx, wanna test? Nov 05 17:35:40 hmm Nov 05 17:44:03 koen: Is angstrom compatible with the nslu? Nov 05 17:44:23 I got it to build an image Nov 05 17:44:30 cool. Nov 05 17:44:34 I'll try in on my loft later this week Nov 05 17:44:41 koen: So does it support armv4t? Nov 05 17:44:44 VoodooZ: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/unbreak-ix4xx-for-not-slugos.diff Nov 05 17:44:50 lamikr: yes Nov 05 17:45:05 koen: is angrsom using eabi? Nov 05 17:45:18 lamikr: yes Nov 05 17:45:22 lamikr: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/unbreak-armv4t.patch :) Nov 05 17:45:34 koen: COOL Nov 05 17:45:50 I couldn't help but to notice the words EABI and IXP and immediately got excited! :) Nov 05 17:45:55 koen: machine/ixp4xx.conf: +MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 pcmcia usbhost pcmcia ext2" ? Nov 05 17:46:06 NAiL: for task-base Nov 05 17:46:22 and the loft has pcmcia-like hw Nov 05 17:46:27 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r1207674d... 10/ (1 packages/altboot/altboot_1.1.0-wip.bb): altboot: Add ENABLE_SOUND to altbootctl Nov 05 17:46:32 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rdababb35... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): altboot: Add ENABLE_SOUND to altbootctl Nov 05 17:46:40 aha Nov 05 17:46:48 koen: is it needed twice? :) Nov 05 17:46:57 heh Nov 05 17:47:39 lots of action. me like it. Nov 05 17:48:11 ok, debian page is also updated. Last time I checked it said to require armv5: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort Nov 05 17:49:06 koen: ok, so one can theoretically use angstrom instead of slugos on the slug now (and thus eabi/glibc 2.5)? Nov 05 17:49:42 NAiL: yes Nov 05 17:50:11 NAiL: but you'll lose all the _slugos overrides that should be _ixp4xx or _nslu2 Nov 05 17:50:28 oh well Nov 05 17:50:35 should be fixed I guess ;) Nov 05 17:50:40 yes :) Nov 05 17:50:53 * koen waits for the POE inserter to get delivered Nov 05 17:51:09 * NAiL takes a look at all the _slugos overrides Nov 05 17:52:46 NAiL: what are you breaking? :;-) Nov 05 17:52:58 heh, dunno yet, pulling Nov 05 17:53:29 and angstrom needs to get a notion of 'screenless' machines Nov 05 17:53:48 yeah, I was wondering about that part Nov 05 17:53:50 the graphical bootsplash is a bit, ehm, fluff on a loft Nov 05 17:53:58 there's no keyboard/keys/screen Nov 05 17:54:02 although I do have a usb-vga adaptor :) Nov 05 17:54:07 haha Nov 05 17:56:24 koen: anyway, the image should be kinda minimal. Is that somewhat easy to achieve with angstrom? Nov 05 17:56:46 NAiL: yes, since it's using task-base Nov 05 17:57:20 good. me like no-fluf images. Nov 05 17:57:33 Would adding a "noscreen" thingy to task-base-stuff work? Nov 05 17:57:40 but since task-base is kinda new, it can use some tweaking Nov 05 17:57:44 like kernel26 pcmcia noscreen etc? Nov 05 17:58:08 'screen' would make more sense, since you're whitelisting stuff Nov 05 17:58:12 koen: You don't need a recent kernel for tslib symlink, only a recent udev Nov 05 17:58:15 mmkay Nov 05 17:58:28 RP: doesn't a recent udev need a recent kernel? Nov 05 17:58:28 what is angstrom anyways? Is it just another distro that runs on a specific handheld or? Nov 05 17:58:47 VoodooZ: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ Nov 05 17:58:54 koen: I think currently > 2.6.14 which hh.org should have? Nov 05 17:58:56 thanks Nov 05 17:58:59 >= Nov 05 17:59:18 RP: yes Nov 05 17:59:22 koen: Perhaps modalias support for the input system might have been later than that... Nov 05 17:59:57 Anyhow, I'm all for pushing it even if older devices have to symlink it Nov 05 18:00:05 +1 Nov 05 18:00:36 I will also clean up tslib to have same defaults (for 2.6, input module) Nov 05 18:00:38 koen: based on angstrom, one could do "MACHINE_FEATURES_[fsg3|nslu2|nas100d]" right? Nov 05 18:00:39 sane Nov 05 18:00:49 * RP -> back later Nov 05 18:01:12 that'd be just for the image, since the feeds would be all the same :) Nov 05 18:01:21 NAiL: yes, but I wanted to get it working for MACHINE=ixp4xx first :) Nov 05 18:01:31 yeah Nov 05 18:01:41 koen: thanks, great work :D Nov 05 18:05:08 koen, NAiL: Thanks to you both Nov 05 18:05:18 It's all koen ;) Nov 05 18:05:40 you are still there to support though as oppososed to me just whining. :) Nov 05 18:05:50 Ok, now for writing a mail to the dev list regarding [AÅ]ngstr[oö]m Nov 05 18:06:38 once angstrom works I can have a look at teaching slugos EABI for arm/LE Nov 05 18:07:34 nice. Nov 05 18:07:34 I'm looking forward to trying it. Nov 05 18:07:51 * NAiL too Nov 05 18:07:51 Nov 05 18:24:10 hey dfoley Nov 05 18:24:22 lamikr: dfoley is the one that fixed EABI for armv4t :) Nov 05 18:36:09 hey zecke Nov 05 18:37:20 hey koen, sunday morning, it's raining and i can't go dirtbiking Nov 05 18:39:52 koen: hey, I have no answer on 'this' question yet :( Nov 05 18:40:18 zecke: how unexpected Nov 05 18:40:56 koen: probably "our customers don't give a damn about GPL" is the official answer :) Nov 05 18:42:13 ljp: it would be nice if your 'Downloads' on qtopia.net specify a license Nov 05 18:43:31 * Bernardo has been asking the fsf to press dlink to release the gpl source of their DSM* media centers Nov 05 18:45:24 morning Nov 05 18:45:39 today is Debian install day. Nov 05 18:45:40 hey hrw Nov 05 18:45:56 Linux home 2.6.19-rc4 #17 PREEMPT Sun Nov 5 19:34:56 CET 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux Nov 05 18:46:21 hrw: the "fun" of a new machine =) Nov 05 18:46:25 CoreDump|home: 'new' Nov 05 18:46:58 CoreDump|home: only cpu and mainboard changed. (mainboard change also removed gfx card) Nov 05 18:47:05 hey hrw Nov 05 18:48:33 hi hrw Nov 05 18:54:02 hm. amd64 is a bit behind i386 in debian.. Nov 05 18:54:31 * Bernardo is running kubuntu on his amd64 Nov 05 18:55:06 Bernardo: I want gimp-2.3 instead of 2.2 Nov 05 18:55:21 Bernardo: and I can configure Debian so no need for kubuntu ;D Nov 05 18:55:35 and kubuntu livecd does not like my machine ;( Nov 05 18:55:51 hrw: don't worry, Debian is behind everything Nov 05 18:56:10 ;D Nov 05 18:56:13 :) Nov 05 18:57:54 I used sourcemage to have the absolute bleeding edge of everything, but I really don't have the time to be continuously building everything from source and fixing all small problems Nov 05 18:57:58 only their double standards rock Nov 05 18:58:23 kubuntu/debian gives me the stability, and if I need a bleeding edge package, that one I build from source Nov 05 18:59:14 Quick question about spitz installation. how large can the hdimage be? Im testing out armedslack Nov 05 18:59:14 don't install openembedded on your desktop so :) Nov 05 18:59:20 reboot Nov 05 18:59:33 Kristoffer: as much as your root / is Nov 05 18:59:44 Kristoffer: 1G on 'my' spitz Nov 05 19:00:10 brb - reboot Nov 05 19:01:14 hrw, ah goodie Nov 05 19:03:03 dfoley: Thank's for fixing the eabi for armv4t. Nov 05 19:14:32 ~lart fglrx driver Nov 05 19:14:33 * ibot pours gasoline all over fglrx driver, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze Nov 05 19:25:48 re Nov 05 19:30:15 ~lart python for breaking compatibility Nov 05 19:30:16 * ibot declares python a moron for breaking compatibility Nov 05 19:30:38 I need to run python2.3 script but whole system has 2.4 python modules only Nov 05 19:35:44 got 3D working Nov 05 19:37:32 reboot to check sound now Nov 05 19:41:08 looks like it is time to write to lkml Nov 05 19:41:38 "linux sucks, use bsd" Nov 05 19:42:52 ;D Nov 05 19:44:04 * Bernardo enjoys beryl on his nvidia Nov 05 19:45:17 * Bernardo tries to get his prism2.5 card to work on ubuntu... Nov 05 19:50:45 bye Nov 05 19:52:23 hi all Nov 05 19:55:07 hey GStepper Nov 05 20:11:10 * RP returns, hopefully for a while this time Nov 05 20:21:56 everybody's bitbaking it seems .... Nov 05 20:23:47 koen: Your tslib commit needed to remove the detect-stylus calls fro the tslib.sh files - I'll take care of it... Nov 05 20:30:18 D'oh! Nov 05 20:30:55 2 Nov 05 20:31:45 Jones' Second Law: Nov 05 20:31:45 The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone Nov 05 20:31:45 to blame it on. Nov 05 20:33:40 chouimat: right :) Nov 05 20:45:04 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r2713c7de... 10/ (33 files in 29 dirs): Nov 05 20:45:04 tslib: General cleanup - Turn ts-2.6.conf into the standard ts.conf, remove Nov 05 20:45:04 TSLIB_TSEVENTTYPE as it doesn't do anything, remove old module_id() macros, fix Nov 05 20:45:04 h2200 and h5xxx so they don't need detect-stylus, remove duplicate ts.conf Nov 05 20:45:04 files, remove old fixed date tslib version Nov 05 20:46:47 tslib should be a little cleaner now - slowly heading to a single conf file - we could if we ditched 2.4 support :) Nov 05 20:49:04 RP: or do something like xserver-common does Nov 05 20:49:33 (or win the lottery and hire hackers to port every device over to 26.recent) Nov 05 20:49:41 koen: That would be a bad idea for performance inside a .sh file... Nov 05 20:50:01 koen: I guess we could special case 2.6 at the start of the file... Nov 05 20:50:21 that would be my suggestion Nov 05 20:51:11 We could bin the 2.4 support for akita, spitz and c7x0... Nov 05 21:05:59 RP: is the fbmmx -> fbiwmmxt stuff online somewhere? Nov 05 21:06:41 Well, could have clean support for 2.6 and leave dirty one for 2.4 hanging for some time... Nov 05 21:06:41 koen: Perhaps not yet. I need to check with mallum/tomas whats happening with that... Nov 05 21:10:57 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rf4f260a7... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qte-common_2.3.10.inc): qte-common: Add override for h1940 closing =121 Nov 05 21:13:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r418c8f87... 10/ (1 classes/gpe.bbclass): gpe.bbclass: apparently weak assigments in SRC_URI don't work :( Nov 05 21:14:17 * koen stabs giac and sets it on fire Nov 05 21:14:50 I would like to give a shot for the gcc 4.1.1 eabi for armv4t and I am configuring local.conf. Are following ok: Nov 05 21:14:55 * RP stabs bluez download server Nov 05 21:15:02 TARGET_ARCH = "arm" Nov 05 21:15:19 #TARGET_FPU="soft" Nov 05 21:15:22 --> not defined Nov 05 21:15:36 DISTRO = "familiar-unstable" Nov 05 21:15:42 lamikr: MACHINE=h6300 DISTRO=angstrom-2007.1 Nov 05 21:15:47 lamikr: that's all you need Nov 05 21:16:13 ok, thanks. So no arch definitions or fpu definitions in local.conf Nov 05 21:20:06 tinyurl.com/yhosqg Nov 05 21:20:11 50 bugs closed :) Nov 05 21:20:17 51 ;-) Nov 05 21:20:33 koen, SRC_URI is assigned in bitbake.conf, damn Nov 05 21:20:55 koen, RP: SRC_URI = "file://${FILE}" Nov 05 21:21:02 let's kill that, it's useless ;-) Nov 05 21:21:15 psokolovsky: Move it to the end of the file and make it ?= Nov 05 21:21:37 RP: err, I mean, let's kill it in OE ;-) Nov 05 21:22:09 psokolovsky: I just wonder if anything actually relies on that behaviour Nov 05 21:22:55 psokolovsky: It will copy the .bb into the WORKDIR as a default. Why you'd need this I don't know but... :) Nov 05 21:22:59 RP: well, I saw that it will put .bb itself in work dir. Do you think something relies on that behavior? 8-) Nov 05 21:23:03 yeah! Nov 05 21:23:25 psokolovsky: I guess we could remove it and see what breaks :) Nov 05 21:23:28 * lamikr launched bitbake for night work Nov 05 21:23:38 my usual approach... Nov 05 21:23:47 RP: yes! Nov 05 21:29:27 * koen wonders how usefull mesa is on embedded devices Nov 05 21:33:59 RP: is 3d working on the i2700g already? Nov 05 21:34:18 * koen wonders if lrg has 3d working on his i.mx31 Nov 05 21:34:23 koen: No, it appears you can't use VGA for it and need an LCD panel :-/ Nov 05 21:34:32 go intel! Nov 05 21:34:33 RP, whats the status of the internal keymap for the spitz? Works well, poorly?.. Nov 05 21:35:07 Kristoffer: You mean the kernel keymap or the one we load? Nov 05 21:35:12 kernel keymap Nov 05 21:35:25 Kristoffer: Broken but that is to be expected Nov 05 21:35:40 oki, just asking so I know wether or not to include it Nov 05 21:35:55 You device will be useless without a keymap ;-) Nov 05 21:36:09 :D got ya Nov 05 21:37:23 gah Nov 05 21:37:28 * koen curses -c rebuild Nov 05 21:37:39 * koen starts the giac build again Nov 05 21:38:07 wasn't giac that ongoody app requiring tons of RAM to compile? Nov 05 21:38:20 There's nice impl for OpenGL mobile profile. it uses dynamic codegeneration, so might be pretty usable. Nov 05 21:38:26 CoreDump|home: yep Nov 05 21:38:49 Offhand does anyone know what CVSDATE_minimo should be set to for oz354x? Nov 05 21:38:51 CoreDump|home: it builds one big optimized c++ binary Nov 05 21:38:59 #691... Nov 05 21:39:13 RP: to the one we had in .dev Nov 05 21:39:29 2005... Nov 05 21:39:40 20050401 Nov 05 21:40:43 note that the mozilla people changed their cvs layout Nov 05 21:40:53 so the files might be gone Nov 05 21:41:03 * koen remembers the cvs breakage with glibc Nov 05 21:41:29 Ah, it would probably work for me as I have a tarball :-/ Nov 05 21:41:36 right Nov 05 21:41:50 and the old minimo had a 2-stage checkout Nov 05 21:42:02 setting a cvsdate only had effect on the makefile Nov 05 21:42:16 you actually needed the tarball..... Nov 05 21:42:38 So we should create a fixed version of it and host the tarball somewhere? Nov 05 21:42:41 * koen wants BROKENUPSTREAM as resolution Nov 05 21:43:08 RP: you could get hrw to put the tarball on the oz source mirror Nov 05 21:43:31 Have we somewhere on l2g we can put tarballs - the start of a source mirror? Nov 05 21:43:46 I was wondering about fixing this in .dev first as .dev must have the same issue? Nov 05 21:44:01 http://www.openembedded.org/sources/ Nov 05 21:44:14 RP: in .dev we use a newer minimo with a better buildsystem iirc Nov 05 21:44:59 koen: conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc:SRCDATE_minimo ?= "20050401" Nov 05 21:45:15 hrm Nov 05 21:45:51 * koen purges 'minimo' from his memory and whistles innocently Nov 05 21:46:26 There are two "cvs" minimo .bb files... Nov 05 21:46:40 Its no wonder we have long outstanding bugs :-( Nov 05 21:47:47 minimo *is* a bug Nov 05 21:48:47 * RP resolves more 2.4 kernel problems as WONTFIX Nov 05 21:51:03 yes mozilla tree is not easy to build :-( Nov 05 21:51:16 i imagine minimo Nov 05 21:52:06 RP: did you update asoc in .oz354x already? Nov 05 21:52:30 because my poodle has sound again Nov 05 21:52:32 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8bdc2454... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qte-common_2.3.10.inc): Nov 05 21:52:32 qte 2.3.10: Add needed overrides consistently for all pocketpc models. Nov 05 21:52:32 * hXXXX, hxXXXX, etc. Nov 05 21:52:32 * One sweet day this will be redone in a sane way. Nov 05 21:52:36 CoreDump|home: Probably not - updating the kernels in .dev caused me enough trouble :-/ Nov 05 21:56:27 * koen is awaiting the demo of the super-secret phone Nov 05 22:00:39 * CoreDump|home actually, too Nov 05 22:04:04 300dpi screen Nov 05 22:14:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r79ea0224... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): libgtkinput, libgtkstylus: fix packaging with gtk+ 2.10.x Nov 05 22:15:15 koen: org.openembedded.dev/packages/file contains bb files only for the 4.16 version, but ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ does not contain that. (There is only version 4.17 and 4.18) Nov 05 22:38:09 openzaurus.org down? Nov 05 22:38:35 yep Nov 05 22:39:19 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4cbd0db6... 10/ (1 conf/machine/h6300.conf): h6300.conf: fix ipkg archs Nov 05 22:39:30 sucky Nov 05 22:53:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rab30c985... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: add support for h6300 Nov 05 23:05:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r63caf624... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-arm9tdmi.conf): tune-arm9tdmi.conf: if you tell gcc to allow thumb code you also need to set package_arch to armv4t Nov 05 23:05:43 anyone remember the combination to put spitz into rescue mode? Nov 05 23:05:58 need to repartition my drive :D Nov 05 23:06:24 koen: I took those and restarted by deleting the tmp. Nov 05 23:14:35 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rede95c4b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): prism3-support: Only attempt prism firmware on wireless interfaces (#693). Could be improved to only try on hostap interfaces but requires sysfs magic incompatible with 2.4 Nov 05 23:16:08 bye Nov 05 23:21:21 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8ae482db... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): qemu: Drop unused files Nov 05 23:22:23 CoreDump|home: Offhand, do you know how much of #883 made it into .dev? Nov 05 23:22:31 openzaurus.org back up again Nov 05 23:25:50 RP: not offhand no Nov 05 23:27:05 CoreDump|home: It would be good to make sure it made it .dev, then close that bug... Nov 05 23:28:58 I do not have room / time for a .dev build but I could push untested changes... Nov 05 23:37:16 Re ldd (bugs #1484 & #878). Ldd calls "set -o pipefail" which makes the busybox sh exit. It can be fixed by either removing that from ldd (only needed to get output under SELinux), or by patching busybox sh not to die when it gets an unknown set option. Anyone have a preference on which way to fix this? I'm undecided.. Nov 05 23:37:41 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 05 23:37:41 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 05 23:37:41 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 05 23:43:56 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * re76ceb4c... 10/ (1 packages/libnet/libnet_1.1.2.1.bb): Nov 05 23:43:57 libnet 1.1.2.1: Clean up the format of the .bb by running though Nov 05 23:43:59 oe-stylize.py. Nov 05 23:50:41 CoreDump|afk: Even if you could indentify the changes needed, that would be helpful Nov 05 23:51:53 RP: I'll try to work them out this week. Nov 05 23:52:28 CoreDump|afk: ok, thanks Nov 06 00:00:13 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 00:00:13 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 00:00:13 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 00:14:50 'night all Nov 06 00:20:04 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 00:20:04 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 00:20:04 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 00:36:23 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 00:36:23 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 00:36:23 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 00:53:11 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 00:53:11 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 00:53:11 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:13:58 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:13:58 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:13:58 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:18:02 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:18:06 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:18:08 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:26:38 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:26:38 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:26:38 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:36:34 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:36:34 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:36:34 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:45:38 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:45:38 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:45:38 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 01:58:18 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 01:58:18 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 01:58:18 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 02:02:41 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 02:02:41 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 02:02:41 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 02:10:02 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r19b357ba... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Nov 06 02:10:02 libnet 1.1.2.1: Modify so that it no longer uses a patch configure by Nov 06 02:10:02 forcing the regerneration of the configure script. Closes #467. Nov 06 02:15:42 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * re76ceb4c... 10/ (1 packages/libnet/libnet_1.1.2.1.bb): Nov 06 02:15:42 libnet 1.1.2.1: Clean up the format of the .bb by running though Nov 06 02:15:42 oe-stylize.py. Nov 06 02:21:03 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * radd3ebc7... 10/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Nov 06 02:21:03 site: Update for libnet. Add ac_libnet_have_packet_socket to any site files Nov 06 02:21:03 that already had the existing libnet endianess definition. Also add libnet Nov 06 02:21:03 definitions to i486 site file so it doesn't run those two tests. Nov 06 02:35:00 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r49baa6c5... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): clamav: Add version 0.88.6, drop version 0.88.4. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Nov 06 02:59:57 2006