**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jan 09 02:59:59 2007 Jan 09 03:44:17 hrw|gone: :-) glad I reminded you, I still use my C3000 and would very much like Angstrom to be stable on it. Jan 09 07:05:47 morning Jan 09 07:21:33 What driver do I need for CF cards? Jan 09 07:24:03 I thought it would be ide-cs but apparently that doesn't work Jan 09 07:25:26 morning Jan 09 07:25:35 DataBeaver: cf connected to aTA controler? Jan 09 07:27:54 I suppose so? Jan 09 07:28:05 DataBeaver: then you need ata controler driver Jan 09 07:28:11 ide-cs is or pcmcia Jan 09 07:28:14 ide-cs is for pcmcia Jan 09 07:29:11 I thought the CF slot is more or less like pcmcia? Jan 09 07:29:28 cf slot yes Jan 09 07:30:01 but many embedded x86/arm boards use cf memory card connected directly to ATA controler Jan 09 07:30:14 hmh... Jan 09 07:30:25 WLAN card in the CF slot works though Jan 09 07:30:54 But memory card doesn't get claimed by any driver Jan 09 07:32:10 show me `pccardctl ident` output Jan 09 07:32:45 and tell which kernel versioon you use Jan 09 07:33:14 Kernel 2.6.19.1 Jan 09 07:33:21 pccardctl ident shows: Jan 09 07:33:39 product info: "CF Card", "CFA 128MB CTS", " ", "3.0" Jan 09 07:33:44 manfid: 0x0000, 0x0000 Jan 09 07:33:48 ok Jan 09 07:33:50 function: 4 (fixed disk) Jan 09 07:33:57 I can give you patch to kernel Jan 09 07:34:14 That would be nice Jan 09 07:34:46 first need to update my git kernel Jan 09 07:43:58 DataBeaver: http://pastebin.ca/310910 Jan 09 07:44:06 DataBeaver: tell me if it helps Jan 09 07:44:35 I did not checked does it builds but it should ;D Jan 09 07:46:00 Thanks, I'll check once I get a new kernel compiled and installed Jan 09 07:49:19 DataBeaver: when you confirm it working I will push it into mainline Jan 09 07:51:13 hi greentux Jan 09 07:53:20 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r10528777... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): sqlite: upgraded to 2.8.17 Jan 09 07:53:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8b4686f5... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): sqlite3: update to 3.3.9 Jan 09 07:53:26 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r32659870... 10/ (21 files in 7 dirs): sqlite/sqlite3: dropped old versions Jan 09 07:57:56 Hm, I wonder why patch didn't like that copypasted into its stdin... Jan 09 08:05:31 Hm, there's some non-obvious option affecting whether the internal hard disk is detected at boot... Jan 09 08:10:26 ? Jan 09 08:10:38 Something on the kernel command line... Jan 09 08:11:29 If I remove console=ttyS0,115200n8, noinitrd and debug from CONFIG_CMDLINE, I get a panic about unknown root device Jan 09 08:11:55 anyway, that patch works for the CF card. Jan 09 08:15:38 you are able to boot from it? Jan 09 08:16:38 I recompiled with the last known good config with the patch and it worked Jan 09 08:16:56 Booting from the internal hard disk, if you meant that Jan 09 08:17:23 great Jan 09 08:24:00 cu Jan 09 08:34:13 hi hrw Jan 09 08:40:19 morning all Jan 09 08:42:07 <_law_> hi all Jan 09 08:42:24 <_law_> has anyone tried to build qt-x11 4.2.2 ? Jan 09 08:43:18 morning Jan 09 08:43:24 _law_: I did once Jan 09 08:44:03 <_law_> XorA, does it build? Jan 09 08:47:43 _law_: not for me Jan 09 08:49:41 good morning all Jan 09 08:49:54 hey koen Jan 09 08:51:00 morning Jan 09 08:55:10 hey hrw|work Jan 09 08:58:08 hey hrw|work Jan 09 09:03:26 <_law_> hmm i think http://www.tcpdump.org/ is down, no libpcap Jan 09 09:16:40 NOTE: Running task 249 of 616 (ID: 521, /home/hrw/devel/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/libpcap/libpcap_0.9.5.bb, do_configure) Jan 09 09:17:05 but thats from local source mirror (which I need to finish) Jan 09 09:18:08 Hm, need to find the console keymap for the Z somewhere... Jan 09 09:19:20 DataBeaver: keymaps package in OE Jan 09 09:19:35 what kind of license is this: http://rafb.net/p/i7oHCC29.txt ? Jan 09 09:19:38 Thanks Jan 09 09:19:54 am I being stupid or is there no "above copyright notice" Jan 09 09:20:21 Is it normal that the Fn key produces C without a keymap or do I need to patch the kernel for that? Jan 09 09:20:49 DataBeaver: it is normal that ARM machines do not have usable keymap in kernel Jan 09 09:22:53 koen: I see the (c) Koen in there :-) Jan 09 09:26:45 mc and directory with >20K of symlinks == long time to read dir Jan 09 09:28:01 hrw|work: Mainly was wondering that it should act as a modifier but is producing a symbol instead... But maybe the keymap can change that. Jan 09 09:29:52 DataBeaver: Fn is key like any other Jan 09 09:29:58 keymap define modifiers Jan 09 09:30:08 Yup, looks like so Jan 09 09:30:15 you can have 'H' key working as modifier Jan 09 09:30:34 unfortuneateluy Fn being normal key is what breaks firefox Jan 09 09:31:04 * koen mumbles about using xkb instead of xmodmap in X Jan 09 09:31:14 koen: :-D Jan 09 09:32:00 koen: sounds like a plan for Angstrom Jan 09 09:32:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1494fe26... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Jan 09 09:32:28 maemo3: start adding maemo3 packages that build against stock base libraries: Jan 09 09:32:28 * hildon lgpl 0.12.1 Jan 09 09:32:28 * hildon-base-lib 0.11.1 Jan 09 09:32:28 * libgpsmgr 0.1 Jan 09 09:32:28 * libgpsbt 0.1 Jan 09 09:32:30 Work in progress, feel free to fix errors, add descriptions, etc Jan 09 09:33:46 <_law_> hrw|work, can you upload the tar.gz file somewhere so i can download it? Jan 09 09:34:14 _law_: which pcap? Jan 09 09:34:22 _law_: 0.9.3? 0.9.5? Jan 09 09:35:05 both are on the angstrom source mirror Jan 09 09:35:49 <_law_> libpcap-0.9.5.tar.gz Jan 09 09:35:55 <_law_> koen, thanks Jan 09 09:46:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r12bff40f... 10/ (1 packages/maemo3/hildon-base-lib_0.11.1.bb): hildon-base-lib: remove warning, that should go into hildon-libs Jan 09 09:47:39 <_law_> btw. whats currently the better choise? angstrom or oz-dev for my c7x0 ? Jan 09 09:48:03 angstrom + Ximageon Jan 09 09:48:16 got Angstrom on 2/3 of my Z Jan 09 09:48:21 hmm, I'm a bit puzzled here. if there is a PREFERRED_PROVIDER_foo = "bar" in a conf/machine/somemachine.conf, there is no way for me to change that using local.conf, right? I would need to edit somemachine.conf directly Jan 09 09:48:39 <_law_> koen, Ximageon is this standard? Jan 09 09:49:16 <_law_> koen, Ximageon is an new XServer ? Jan 09 09:50:37 it's a new xserver Jan 09 09:50:49 with XV support for playing movies :) Jan 09 09:51:02 Cockroach-: right Jan 09 09:51:24 Cockroach-: that's why somemachine.conf should use PREFERRED_PROVIDER_foo ?= "bar" Jan 09 09:51:37 I thought so too. Jan 09 09:51:50 ~hail sirfred Jan 09 09:51:57 * ibot bows down to sirfred and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jan 09 09:52:48 hmm, should look at gxine and see if it will xv Jan 09 09:53:08 crap, that commit had something too much Jan 09 09:53:31 ah well, I wanted to commit libosso anyway :) Jan 09 09:53:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcebec032... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): maemo3: move outo from maemo/ to maemo3/ Jan 09 09:54:34 And somewhat related question, is it possible (and if so, how difficult) to build angstrom with working X to nokia770 with the current OE? xserver-kdrive-omap clearly doesn't compile, but could the plain xserver-kdrive be tried instead? Jan 09 09:54:55 hrw|work: BTW I am more than happy to help fill upgrades feed Jan 09 09:56:46 Cockroach-: you can use xfbdev if you enable a kernel config option Jan 09 09:57:06 Cockroach-: Xomap basically tells the kernel via an ioctl when to update the screen from the backbuffer Jan 09 09:57:32 Hmm, I see. Jan 09 09:58:03 have to look into that then. It's what's I'm getting paid atm after all. Jan 09 10:00:16 XorA: join project Jan 09 10:02:04 ah, oz dns works Jan 09 10:04:13 hrw|work: lets see if ltg works Jan 09 10:04:20 http://wiki.openzaurus.org/ is broken Jan 09 10:04:38 no matter if it's a wiki, I can't fix it ;) Jan 09 10:05:50 we need to think about moving wiki to ltg Jan 09 10:08:17 <_law_> koen, is Ximageon standard for angstrom? Jan 09 10:08:17 _law_: not yet Jan 09 10:08:23 <_law_> koen, any howto how i can switch? Jan 09 10:08:41 ipkg install xserver-kdrive-Ximageon Jan 09 10:08:47 <_law_> koen, ok thanks Jan 09 10:09:04 xora patches xserver-common to use Ximageon when present Jan 09 10:10:10 has the repo browser moved (http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/)? Jan 09 10:11:12 <_law_> koen, is there a gpe image for the c7x0? Jan 09 10:11:31 tkp: no Jan 09 10:11:49 tkp: it has always been at http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/ Jan 09 10:11:53 ah s'ok, I can get it at 'filebrowser...' instead of 'repo...' Jan 09 10:12:45 keon: accessing it by repo instead of filebrowser used to bring up a plain directory listing instead Jan 09 10:12:49 no matter Jan 09 10:13:33 Any specific reason why python native is still on version 2.4.0? Jan 09 10:13:43 tkp: as mickeyl Jan 09 10:14:01 mickeyl: ?! Jan 09 10:14:22 tkp: because python 2.4.x only needs python 2.4.0 native to build Jan 09 10:15:47 keon: I'm trying to use the Helix build system (Ribosome) through a bitbake recipie... I had it working, but someone has bumped the requirements for Ribosome now - it requires 2.4.3 :( Jan 09 10:17:02 tkp: then try to update python-native Jan 09 10:18:56 lrg has found you can no longer build a rootfs when package_tar is used Jan 09 10:19:30 Any way to scroll in the console? Fn+Up is PageUp but Fn+Shift+Up doesn't do anything. Jan 09 10:20:07 XorA: right, RP mentioned something like that Jan 09 10:20:10 <_law_> is Ximageon faster? Jan 09 10:20:32 _law_: Ximageon is about as fast as Xw100, but it has XV Jan 09 10:21:07 koen: and hardware cursors I think Jan 09 10:21:40 Ahh, finally a working vim. Jan 09 10:25:09 good morning Jan 09 10:28:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r91ccd45d... 10/ (1 packages/maemo3/libosso-gsf_1.11.10.4.bb): libosso-gsf: add 1.11.10.4 Jan 09 10:50:36 florian_kc: good morning Jan 09 10:50:39 mickeyl: good morning Jan 09 10:50:55 hey pb_ Jan 09 10:50:56 hey pb_ Jan 09 10:51:24 Who forgot to check in a1200-defconfig? ;) Jan 09 10:52:09 hi xora Jan 09 11:07:16 florian_kc: the non-existing one? Jan 09 11:08:15 koen: it depends ;) Jan 09 11:09:01 i'll try to create one to get a basically working kernel at least Jan 09 11:15:57 Um, does the Z really have a serial port somewhere? Jan 09 11:16:18 hrm... someone pointed me to a bad gpe bug in oe bugzilla that was easy to fix... Jan 09 11:16:29 koen: you maybe? Jan 09 11:17:58 DataBeaver: yes Jan 09 11:18:43 Is it accessible from outside somehow or just a hidden chip on the board? Jan 09 11:18:51 DataBeaver: its on the IO connector Jan 09 11:19:31 The one with the USB symbol? Jan 09 11:19:43 Or is there some connector I haven't found yet? Jan 09 11:19:51 DataBeaver: what model do you have Jan 09 11:19:54 no, the one with the weird connector Jan 09 11:20:05 SL-C3100 Jan 09 11:20:12 I don't have any eird connectors Jan 09 11:20:19 DataBeaver: its hidden behind a plastic plate on the back Jan 09 11:20:33 CF slot, SD slot, headphone jack, USB connector and power connector Jan 09 11:20:54 Ah, that one probably. Jan 09 11:21:00 DataBeaver: to right of usb connector and down a little Jan 09 11:21:35 Yup, there's some kind of cover but no obvious way to open it. Jan 09 11:21:46 I always thought that to be a backup battery for RTC. Jan 09 11:25:14 Yup, that's some weird connector all right. Jan 09 11:25:57 DataBeaver: unfortuneately for spitz series you need a MAX level shifter chip in the cable Jan 09 11:26:05 DataBeaver: not sure if anyone makes a premade one Jan 09 11:26:41 I don't think I'll use the serial port anyway Jan 09 11:26:58 Just got curious since the serial driver is included in defconfig-spitz Jan 09 11:27:18 I'm mostly using wlan to transfer files and sometimes CF or USB Jan 09 11:28:13 * XorA puts both his Z's on charge Jan 09 11:28:19 I think the c7x0 needs a new battery Jan 09 11:31:37 XorA: you got accepted Jan 09 11:33:07 Okay, this is funny. With a certain kernel config, if I have a CF card in when I boot, both it and the internal HDD are recognized. However, if I don't have a CF card in, the HDD won't be recognized either. Jan 09 11:39:02 ~lart lack of RTC on PC Jan 09 11:39:02 * ibot does a little 'renice 20 -u lack of RTC on PC' Jan 09 11:41:23 morning guys Jan 09 11:41:24 good morning pb_ Jan 09 11:41:30 hey mickeyl Jan 09 11:42:01 tkp: i'll see what i can do bumping python-nativ Jan 09 11:42:02 e Jan 09 11:42:32 mickeyl: I just did it actually... it's an easy upgrade Jan 09 11:42:48 good. feel free to commit then Jan 09 11:43:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r293e51d5... 10/ (1 packages/maemo3/mce-dev_1.5.6.bb): maemo3: add mce-dev 1.5.6 Jan 09 11:45:41 I need to override a variable in a Makefile, can I do this Jan 09 11:46:09 * Crofton always forgets how Makefile overrides work .... Jan 09 11:46:39 oerun_make -e FOO=bar Jan 09 11:46:40 iirc Jan 09 11:47:11 EXTRA_OEMAKE = "-e FOOO+bar"/ Jan 09 11:47:20 wo / Jan 09 11:48:19 make needs an option to only take env vars from the command line Jan 09 11:48:23 Okay, wtf. HDD being detected seems to be dependent on both MTD being compiled in AND kernel debugging being enabled? Jan 09 11:56:48 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r83586dad... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Updated to 2.6.20-rc4, and made default for SlugOS. Includes latest 0.3.1 version of open source ixp npe driver. Jan 09 11:57:20 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r83586dad... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Updated to 2.6.20-rc4, and made default for SlugOS. Includes latest 0.3.1 version of open source ixp npe driver. Jan 09 11:57:27 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r606528d0... 10/ (1 packages/apex/apex_1.4.11.bb packages/apex/nslu2/defconfig): apex: New upstream version 0.4.11 Jan 09 11:57:33 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r336c3826... 10/ (1 packages/apex/nslu2/defconfig): apex: 1.4.11 now works for little endian too. Jan 09 11:57:58 bah Jan 09 11:58:10 * Crofton|home hates omniorb's autofoo Jan 09 11:59:38 someone here familiar with ACPI? Jan 09 12:05:24 hmm Jan 09 12:05:56 how can I add a variable to the autoconf cache for a single bb file? Jan 09 12:05:59 hrw|work, i did some asl hacking some time back .. do you need DSDT fixes ? Jan 09 12:06:54 rob_w: my webpad lack AC and Battery info from acpi. I can get both infos using i2c but not from acpi Jan 09 12:07:35 Crofton|home: via EXTRA_OECONF Jan 09 12:08:05 just set ac_omniidl=path? Jan 09 12:08:05 Crofton|home: see packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb Jan 09 12:08:14 you can dissamble the dsdt tables easily with intel iasl compiler , then you can change and fix it ,, then you can load that new table via decent kernels at initrd stage Jan 09 12:09:08 hrw|work, do you have errors parsing the acpi tables in your dmesg ? Jan 09 12:09:29 koen, thanks Jan 09 12:09:44 this saves me from looking at someones m4 :) Jan 09 12:10:57 hrw|work, i did that to reassemble a better IRQ mapping back then ;-) Jan 09 12:14:22 rob_w: I know how to hack acpi and how to get it in kernel (without initrd ;) but have problem with finding how to make AC switch info working via acpi Jan 09 12:15:28 rob_w: AC switch is visible in deassembled dsdt but does not work Jan 09 12:16:00 rob_w: but as I have external modules which give me AC and Battery info I moved that into low priority... Jan 09 12:16:23 from other hand: some one know does battery subsystem will finally exist in 2.6 kernel? Jan 09 12:16:45 last I heard there were only plans Jan 09 12:16:48 and flames Jan 09 12:17:40 too bad.. Jan 09 12:19:34 apm/acpi is still your best bet Jan 09 12:20:28 mickeyl: currently I have hacked acpi ac/battery modules - both show in acpi namespace but do not use acpi to get infos Jan 09 12:22:19 the funny thing about acpi is that ac/battery read is done by EC (embedded controler) which has own table. ofcourse progear bios lack such things Jan 09 12:22:33 atleast thats how I understood acpi pages Jan 09 12:22:57 acpi, like x86 is a mess Jan 09 12:23:16 ~lart clucene again Jan 09 12:23:17 * ibot gives clucene again an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending clucene again to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple Jan 09 12:24:57 FSCK.. I removed directory with handtuned rewrite rules Jan 09 12:26:54 NOTE: Running task 534 of 535 (ID: 8, /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive-imageon_X11R7.1-1.1.0.bb, do_qa_staging) Jan 09 12:27:02 mirror/fullname -> mirror/1stchar/1stchar2ndchar/fullname [L] Jan 09 12:27:04 mickeyl: time for an ncurser progressbar? Jan 09 12:28:08 soon... Jan 09 12:28:10 (tm) Jan 09 12:28:25 seriously, i expect us to be able to show ncurses bitbake on fosdem Jan 09 12:28:32 s/expect/hope/ Jan 09 12:30:31 what's the current status? Jan 09 12:30:49 all I know is that you and RP have been mailing stuff around :) Jan 09 12:31:15 03 22:19< hrw> RewriteRule ^([0-9a-zA-Z])([0-9a-zA-Z])(.*)$ $1/$1$2/$1$2$3 [L] Jan 09 12:31:17 uf Jan 09 12:31:45 irc backup :) Jan 09 12:31:51 yes Jan 09 12:31:52 Okay, how about X keyboard layout? Doesn't seem to be as patch in xkbd at least. Jan 09 12:36:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfcd003eb... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh9.bb): linux-handhelds: add 2.6.16-hh9 Jan 09 12:38:51 Angstrom-2007.1-oabi: collie, h3600, compulab-pxa270 built. h3800, simpad failed Jan 09 12:39:59 Morning! Jan 09 12:40:06 hi Rolf Jan 09 12:40:14 hey Laibsch Jan 09 12:40:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6a7ee07b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom-2007.1: prefer 2.6.16-hh9 to get the arm cache fix Jan 09 12:40:47 gah, pr0n pipe is clogged with ipk uplods Jan 09 12:50:06 http://pastebin.ca/311026 hi, i have been facing this problem for the past 2 days Jan 09 12:50:43 can anyone help me with this Jan 09 12:51:10 i have given DISTRO='generic' in the local.conf Jan 09 12:51:42 anushsh: create kernel config for amida and put it in /oeputer/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/files/defconfig Jan 09 12:53:33 hrw|work : ok Jan 09 12:54:01 anushsh: btw - how much does amida cost? Jan 09 12:54:27 hrw|work : aroung 200 - 300 USD Jan 09 12:54:43 thx Jan 09 12:55:08 better use DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1-oabi' Jan 09 12:55:31 koen : ok. I tried it though Jan 09 12:55:48 Hmph, Xorg doesn't like my framebuffer. Mode not found it says. Jan 09 12:57:18 NOTE: package linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.16-hh9-r0: task do_compile: started Jan 09 12:57:22 for h3800 Jan 09 12:57:41 who wants to push one linux-handhelds-2.6.inc change? Jan 09 12:57:43 So far I've tried 640x480, 480x640, 480x640p, 480x640p-114 and default Jan 09 12:58:05 -COMPATIBLE_MACHINE ?= '(asus730|h1910|h2200|h3600|h3900|h4000|h5000|htcblueangel|htcuniversal|hx4700|jornada56x|magician|simpad)' Jan 09 12:58:08 +COMPATIBLE_MACHINE ?= '(asus730|h1910|h2200|h3600|h3900|h4000|h5000|htcblueangel|htcuniversal|hx4700|jornada56x|magician|simpad|rx3000|h3800)' Jan 09 13:01:33 hi Cliff Jan 09 13:01:51 food break Jan 09 13:03:14 hrw|work : isn't defconfig file a automatically generated one? Jan 09 13:06:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3c939552... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6.inc): linux-handhelds-2.6.inc: add rx3000 and h3800 Jan 09 13:07:22 hrw|work: there you go Jan 09 13:07:53 anushsh: no, it isn't autogenerated Jan 09 13:08:03 koen : oh ok. I thought it was auto-generated. Jan 09 13:08:08 :p Jan 09 13:09:50 did someone say there was a problem with libstdc++ on efika-angstrom? Jan 09 13:12:09 Crofton|home: there "was" a problem with libstdc++ anywhere Jan 09 13:12:40 as in? Jan 09 13:12:51 I have having trouble linking against it Jan 09 13:13:00 missig std::string it would appear Jan 09 13:15:46 Crofton: CXXFLAGS += "-lstdc++" Jan 09 13:15:50 that's the workaround Jan 09 13:16:13 for efika only? Jan 09 13:16:24 powerpc in general I think Jan 09 13:16:29 koen: so this is different from the .la problems? Jan 09 13:16:55 XorA: sadly, yes Jan 09 13:18:18 I would appear to have -L......../libstdc++.so in the link line Jan 09 13:18:25 grrr Jan 09 13:18:28 stylus-- Jan 09 13:18:29 as oppsed to -lstdc++ Jan 09 13:21:32 Crofton|home: that might be a problem :-) Jan 09 13:22:01 might explain the lack of symbols from std:: Jan 09 13:23:12 XorA: You can build a rootfs when package_tar is used. See the comments I made in here the other day about that. Basically do INHERIT = "package_ipk package_tar" Jan 09 13:23:28 It will use the first package class as the default for image building Jan 09 13:25:12 RP: lrg was using tar only which leads to an undefined function Jan 09 13:25:23 koen: After trying to solve your suggestion on my own for few hours now, I must ask more assistance :) I checked the .config from 2.6.16.27-omap1 and it says that the fbdev support is indeed configured to be compiled. Jan 09 13:26:11 (maybe this belongs to the other channel, sorry about that but I will finish my sentence) Jan 09 13:26:31 XorA: Did we used to be able to build rootfs from tarballs? Jan 09 13:27:07 RP: until last week according to lrg Jan 09 13:27:25 Cockroach-: it's something like OMAP_IOCTL or EPSON_UPDATE Jan 09 13:27:36 Cockroach-: I don't remember the correct name Jan 09 13:28:28 RP: Ive never tried myself Jan 09 13:28:46 XorA: Ok, it sounds like I overlooked something during the conversion... Jan 09 13:29:35 RP: it tries to call rootfs_tar_do_rootfs Jan 09 13:30:35 XorA: Are you sure he didn't have ipks built as well? Jan 09 13:31:14 RP: his build env is a bit of a mess, so I got no real idea what state it was in last week Jan 09 13:31:33 RP: but it certainly looked like he wasnt building .ipks Jan 09 13:31:33 Hum. Xorg -configure says "No devices to configure. Configuration failed." Jan 09 13:32:26 ok the CXXFLAGS fixed the problem Jan 09 13:32:37 do I push the CXXFLAGS Jan 09 13:32:48 or is there a cunning plan to correct the problem? Jan 09 13:35:10 NOTE: Running task 887 of 1000 (ID: 221, /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/psplash/psplash_svn.bb, do_package) Jan 09 13:35:18 exactly thousand taks Jan 09 13:35:20 tasks Jan 09 13:37:06 Can anyone help me with this Xorg? I'm out of ideas and can't find anything new with Google either. Jan 09 13:37:32 XorA: It had to have been generating ipks, they were probably enabled through the distro config. rootfilesystems were only built with ipks Jan 09 13:38:29 koen, what is the plan for the CXXFLAGS workaround? Jan 09 13:39:08 Crofton: I push them, but my fellow developers hate me for that Jan 09 13:39:19 heh Jan 09 13:39:29 that is sort of what I expected you to say :) Jan 09 13:39:40 for powerpc in general? Jan 09 13:39:45 We need proper solutions Jan 09 13:40:11 I need to push some stuff to get my sdr stuff going on powerpc Jan 09 13:40:30 I can push only the fixes so I can build on machines that already have omniorb on them Jan 09 13:40:37 and wait on the CXXFLAGS Jan 09 13:41:35 on the other hand, It would be nice to have my stuff running on friday for a visitor ... Jan 09 13:42:26 RP: fair enough, mine has always worked :-) Jan 09 13:42:56 koen: if you hadnt snuck one into one of my babies, Id have never noticed Jan 09 13:43:20 koen: efika.conf CFLAGS += "-lstdc++" :-) Jan 09 13:43:37 XorA: CXXFLAGS Jan 09 13:43:46 koen: near enough Jan 09 13:43:47 koen: ok, thanks. I'll look into that. Jan 09 13:43:55 koen: though shouldnt that be LDFLAGS? Jan 09 13:44:04 XorA: no idea Jan 09 13:44:16 XorA: LDDFLAGS? Jan 09 13:44:16 LDFLAGS may do it Jan 09 13:44:29 LXXFLAGS or whatever those c++ hippies call them Jan 09 13:44:31 CXXFLAGS is normally for compiles Jan 09 13:44:53 that reminds me of -Wl,as-needed Jan 09 13:44:54 who are you calling a hippy? Jan 09 13:50:10 XorA: rootfs_tar.bbclass would be very simple to write... :) Jan 09 13:51:39 just for the record, LDFLAGS =+ "-lsdtc++" would appear to be the answer Jan 09 13:51:56 in the short term Jan 09 13:52:24 but that will link everything to stdc++ Jan 09 13:52:36 and hence will add a libstdc++ to everything Jan 09 13:52:36 I didn't see in "C++ hippy" flags to pass to teh linker in the gnu make docs Jan 09 13:52:56 can we do CXXFLAGS_efika += ....? Jan 09 13:53:19 CXXFLAGS_powerpc Jan 09 13:53:43 do we know what the root problem is? Jan 09 13:54:08 gcc and/or libtool Jan 09 13:54:16 * Crofton|home shudders Jan 09 13:54:40 does libstdc++.la list -lstdc++? Jan 09 13:54:53 .la? Jan 09 13:54:54 you could try adding that to dependency_libs Jan 09 13:55:07 I am not that familiar with libtool voodoo Jan 09 13:56:11 found .la Jan 09 13:57:12 in dep.._libs it lists libstdc++.la Jan 09 13:57:20 someone remember how to check (in bash) does file is file or symlink? Jan 09 13:57:48 hrw|work: if [ -h $1 ]; then echo symlink; fi Jan 09 13:57:56 thx NAbyss Jan 09 13:58:16 np Jan 09 13:59:05 Okay, X server is happy with the mode now, but it apparently turned the display backlight off or something and I can't get it back on. Jan 09 14:03:20 http://pastebin.ca/311072 -- my fetch script Jan 09 14:18:02 hi mccarthy Jan 09 14:18:10 hi pb_ Jan 09 14:18:28 mccarthy: I'm installing 2.6 on hy h5550 right now Jan 09 14:18:34 Dammit, do I really have to reboot to get this stupid backlight back on... Jan 09 14:18:38 koen, and it is working? ;) Jan 09 14:19:25 koen, if/when it works, let me know what options to bitbake with (maybe a copy of your local.conf?) Jan 09 14:32:30 mccarthy: MACHINE='h5000' DISTRO='angstrom-2007.1' bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image Jan 09 14:33:08 hrw|work, I tried that about two days ago with a "bitbake gpe-image" and it will not boot Jan 09 14:33:30 (the bootstrap does not have wifi or X) Jan 09 14:33:43 (I tried those out of the testing repository) Jan 09 14:35:20 mccarthy: currently I do not care does it boot or not. I care does it build or not ;d Jan 09 14:35:53 hrw|work : trying to set up defconfig Jan 09 14:36:17 i can copy any of the existinf defconfig files in other directories rigth Jan 09 14:36:46 hrw|work, then you should be quite happy. it built with no issues at all ;) Jan 09 14:37:52 mccarthy: http://rafb.net/p/N34HOi57.html Jan 09 14:40:09 mccarthy: I know - I tested all arm machines recently Jan 09 14:40:25 koen, I cannot even get the console to work (dumb mccarthy ... give me particle mixing any day) Jan 09 14:41:10 hi zecke Jan 09 14:41:34 pb_: master, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342370. Could you please comment/argument? Jan 09 14:42:59 koen, the two lines at the end ... did it fail to boot? Jan 09 14:44:01 yes, I made an error in /boot/params Jan 09 14:49:32 koen: thanks, I'm waiting for bugzilla to send me a password Jan 09 14:50:32 koen : i copied a defconfig file into my required folder Jan 09 14:51:12 koen: ~2 hours for macworld? Jan 09 14:51:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5f701287... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): ipaq-boot-params: unbreak h5000 Jan 09 14:51:28 re Jan 09 14:54:51 zecke: comment done. Jan 09 14:56:32 hi mickeyl Jan 09 14:56:40 hey anushsh. Jan 09 14:57:36 anushsh: if you have any bb files for OpenAlchemy, feel free to put them into our bugtracker. For questions, the guys here around are pretty much all experts ;) Jan 09 14:58:12 mickeyl: thanks :) Jan 09 14:58:25 np, hope that convinces him Jan 09 14:59:22 I like idea of points in gnome bugzilla Jan 09 14:59:33 ya, that's cute Jan 09 14:59:56 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rda754105... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: add magician defconfig for 2.6.19-hh8 Jan 09 15:03:27 zecke: Hi, may I ask you a few questions about the simpads ucb1300 controller? Jan 09 15:03:29 mickeyl: want to introduce them at our one? D: Jan 09 15:05:12 mr_nice: not now :) Jan 09 15:05:44 zecke: ok I will try it later ;) Jan 09 15:06:38 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/openalchemy.tar.bz2 Jan 09 15:06:50 mccarthy: it booted Jan 09 15:07:34 Woohoo, I have X.org! Jan 09 15:07:52 koen, cool. with X and/or wifi or just a bootstrap? Jan 09 15:08:06 bootstrap Jan 09 15:08:10 koen Jan 09 15:08:26 koen, ok. did you do anything funky in your local.conf? Jan 09 15:08:43 nope Jan 09 15:08:43 ok Jan 09 15:08:52 koen: fetching esound-gpe fails Jan 09 15:09:02 maybe I will try the gpe-image build again (with the latest oe bits) Jan 09 15:09:21 try angstrom-gpe-image instead of gpe-image Jan 09 15:09:38 koen, ok Jan 09 15:09:51 (didn't know that was a target) Jan 09 15:09:59 hrw|work: no idea how. i'm not exactly a bugzilla expert .) Jan 09 15:10:05 mickeyl: me too Jan 09 15:10:18 (also, thought it would be implied since angstrom was listed as my distro) Jan 09 15:10:29 mickeyl: I would like to finally find some time and create better themes for our websites Jan 09 15:10:37 that'd be good Jan 09 15:11:13 mickeyl: I do not like their current theme. Jan 09 15:11:56 which companies/distros/organizations use(d) OE? I'm writing another article ;d Jan 09 15:12:33 what's the URI to success stories again? Jan 09 15:12:37 let me check if it's uptodate Jan 09 15:13:59 i'm sure it isn't Jan 09 15:14:03 Wolfson use it :-) Jan 09 15:14:47 XorA: how it is in fullname? Wolfson Microelectronics? Jan 09 15:14:53 Inc. Jan 09 15:15:00 Wolfson Microelectronics Plc Jan 09 15:15:05 Plc? Jan 09 15:15:10 what's that? Jan 09 15:15:23 Pure Lamers Company Jan 09 15:15:30 There's some huge noise in the touchscreen... There's some patches for tosa, anything for spitz (which appears to use corgi_ts driver)? Jan 09 15:15:37 Publically Limited Company Jan 09 15:15:45 ah, publically Jan 09 15:15:58 ~prod hrw|work Jan 09 15:15:59 * ibot zaps hrw|work with a high voltage cattle prod Jan 09 15:16:21 mickeyl: contact olav vitters if you want to have the gnome bugzilla patches Jan 09 15:16:47 *nod* Jan 09 15:16:49 that wiki sucks Jan 09 15:16:59 a bit Jan 09 15:17:06 search is way too slow Jan 09 15:17:10 no, small Jan 09 15:17:14 (the text) Jan 09 15:17:34 ibot: spell ~success Jan 09 15:17:35 only one word of alphabetic characters supported Jan 09 15:17:44 ~spell success Jan 09 15:17:47 'success' may be spelled correctly Jan 09 15:17:51 heh, that's why i couldn't find it Jan 09 15:17:53 http://www.openembedded.org/successtories Jan 09 15:17:55 missing an s Jan 09 15:18:03 can we update page titles? Jan 09 15:18:19 yes, click on the 'edit' tab Jan 09 15:18:29 good Jan 09 15:18:30 * mickeyl updates Jan 09 15:19:09 ~lart proxies Jan 09 15:19:10 * ibot chops proxies in half with a free Solaris 7 CD Jan 09 15:20:17 mickeyl: OpenMoko or FIC? Jan 09 15:20:23 OpenMoko Jan 09 15:20:42 long story short, they founded a company Jan 09 15:20:51 reasons only via private talk :) Jan 09 15:21:04 ok, not now Jan 09 15:21:11 ask me @ fosdem :) Jan 09 15:21:44 http://pastebin.ca/311124 - a bit longer list? Jan 09 15:22:11 mickeyl: if will remember and phones will exist Jan 09 15:22:35 hrw|work: stop spoiling me dreams Jan 09 15:22:36 hrw|work: hmm... make it FIC / OpenMoko Jan 09 15:23:13 where's dfoley working? Jan 09 15:23:16 should add his company Jan 09 15:25:13 I guess Openedhand could move from inhouse to commercial now :) Jan 09 15:25:36 hrw|work: http://www.techsol.ca/ Jan 09 15:25:38 RP: right Jan 09 15:25:54 RP: sorry, I'm stuck with work, no free jiffie until february Jan 09 15:26:26 zecke: np, I added a hack for now (taking a data dict or a datacache) Jan 09 15:26:53 RP: MVP :) Jan 09 15:27:15 mickeyl: their board is nice Jan 09 15:27:46 zecke: MontaVista Patches? Jan 09 15:28:33 hehe Jan 09 15:28:41 Any help for my touchscreen noise problem? Jan 09 15:28:45 RP: you are so awesome, you must be a Monta Vista Patch? Jan 09 15:29:54 zecke: eek! Jan 09 15:30:01 what the heck is the browse path to SuccessStories? Jan 09 15:30:02 morning Jan 09 15:30:08 RP: booked your flight yet? Jan 09 15:30:15 RP: you could be the most valuable player as well. Choiche is yours Jan 09 15:30:34 zecke: ah. I think I know which I'd prefer ;-) Jan 09 15:30:54 mickeyl: No, but the wheels have been set in motion (its not me who will book it) Jan 09 15:31:09 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb943092a... 10/ (1 packages/esound/esound-gpe_20070109.bb): esound-gpe: Add new version with correct date and location. Jan 09 15:31:50 RP: excellent. you have an assistant now? ;) Jan 09 15:32:02 poor mickey is booking his flights alone Jan 09 15:32:09 hrw|work: there doesnt actually seem to be a way to get to the successtories page without knowing its there Jan 09 15:32:17 mickeyl: I wish! :) (mallum is booking it) Jan 09 15:32:18 mickeyl: everyone gets his flight booked! Jan 09 15:32:26 hehe Jan 09 15:32:48 mickeyl: only these free lancers are up to themselves Jan 09 15:34:14 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re60c1cfc... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tslib: add magician configuration Jan 09 15:35:02 pH5: magician really needs own config? Jan 09 15:35:09 XorA: add it into MainPage Jan 09 15:35:44 hrw|work: there is no edit for the main page Jan 09 15:36:03 really? Jan 09 15:36:20 i just added it into the overview Jan 09 15:36:22 Hm, gdm is pretty heavy... Jan 09 15:36:24 XorA: login first Jan 09 15:36:25 see http://www.openembedded.org/mainpage Jan 09 15:36:33 -> publicity Jan 09 15:36:37 -> success stories Jan 09 15:36:42 hrw|work: I just had it in there for a long time. I'll try if there are problems without. Jan 09 15:37:23 * mickeyl dinner Jan 09 15:37:50 mickeyl: thats a path too long for any PHB to find Jan 09 15:38:07 www.oe.org -> Documentation -> wiki Jan 09 15:38:17 -> SuccesStories Jan 09 15:38:44 sure, put it into the global navi at the lft Jan 09 15:38:45 left Jan 09 15:39:44 * XorA tries to find a signup box Jan 09 15:41:48 * Crofton prefers to book his own flight Jan 09 15:42:01 * hrw|work booked and paid Jan 09 15:42:45 * XorA will swim Jan 09 15:45:00 heh Jan 09 15:45:20 another company that did cp angstrom.conf .conf Jan 09 15:45:24 * koen|away shakes head Jan 09 15:45:47 koen|away: who this time? Jan 09 15:47:05 emqbit Jan 09 15:47:30 and I looks like they didn't look in packages for angstrom overrides or files/angstrom/ dirs Jan 09 15:48:17 reminds me, how long before pdaXrom claim sash wrote the accellerated Ximageon driver Jan 09 15:49:23 Waiting for /dev to be fully populated Jan 09 15:49:23 sh: rw: unknown operand Jan 09 15:49:23 Remounting root file system... Jan 09 15:49:26 hmmm Jan 09 15:50:27 koen, CXXFLAGS_powerpc += "lstdc++" is best short term fix for libtool on powerpc? Jan 09 15:51:22 Crofton: yes Jan 09 15:51:33 yay: Angstrom test-20070109 h5000 ttyS0 Jan 09 15:51:49 I won't insert it anywhere I do not absolutely need it Jan 09 15:52:06 also Efika does not have a login on the serial console Jan 09 15:56:16 cu Jan 09 16:00:20 koen: Did you ever successfully build kanjipad? Jan 09 16:00:31 Laibsch: no, I had some errors Jan 09 16:00:32 The dependencies look wrong Jan 09 16:00:39 But even after fixing it Jan 09 16:00:43 It does not compile. Jan 09 16:00:46 I see. Jan 09 16:01:00 Laibsch: pH5 had his own version, maybe he has some patches Jan 09 16:02:09 http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/gpe-kanjipad/ Jan 09 16:02:21 never got around to finish it :( Jan 09 16:04:24 pH5: Is that screen-shot real are created? Jan 09 16:05:06 Laibsch: that's a scap shot on my hx4700 Jan 09 16:05:14 pH5: but it looks like you got it to compile, right? Jan 09 16:05:21 Great Jan 09 16:05:27 Looks rather "finished" Jan 09 16:05:33 What is unfinished? Jan 09 16:05:36 Laibsch: I only used the kanjipad backend, not the interface Jan 09 16:05:47 no kana support Jan 09 16:06:02 and I think usability could be improved. Jan 09 16:06:08 Do you mind if I check your current status in? Jan 09 16:07:45 Laibsch: Feel free to do that. Actually I'd be happy if you could test and perhaps help to improve it. Jan 09 16:07:45 sure Jan 09 16:11:19 Wow, from 2005!!! Jan 09 16:11:36 IIRC the fact that I was unable to find a hiragana/katakana recognition engine that I could use for it made me lose interest. Jan 09 16:11:40 pH5, you better tell me RIGHT now, if you are hiding any other nuggets ;-) Jan 09 16:11:44 lol Jan 09 16:12:07 Laibsch: you only used opie back then, I didn't actively hide it. Jan 09 16:12:31 I still use only opie since we had no Japanese input so far. Jan 09 16:12:37 This might change soon. Jan 09 16:12:40 I hope! Jan 09 16:14:07 let's see, perhaps we can make this into more than a toy. Jan 09 16:24:54 mickeyl: ~10 minutes left till iphone keynote ;) Jan 09 16:25:03 hehe Jan 09 16:25:05 can't wait Jan 09 16:25:19 i wonder whether the video of the keynote will be available right after Jan 09 16:27:31 for the people being able to read dutch: http://www.macosx.nl/ Jan 09 16:30:14 http://www.macrumorslive.com/ Jan 09 16:30:15 not loading ... Jan 09 16:34:46 A ttf font is best placed under Section x11/fonts? Jan 09 16:34:55 Will ttf fonts work in opie, too? Jan 09 16:35:08 since long, yes Jan 09 16:40:56 pH5: why did you have openembedded/packages/gpe-kanjipad/gpe-kanjipad_0.0.bb and openembedded/packages/gpe-kanjipad/kanjipad_2.0.0.bb? Jan 09 16:41:17 I guess they both were meant to provide the "same kind of package"? Jan 09 16:41:21 greetings to all Jan 09 16:41:52 hey Ifaistos Jan 09 16:43:11 hi koen Jan 09 16:43:32 Laibsch: kanjipad is the upstream kanjipad package and provides the kanji recognition backend. gpe-kanjipad is my user interface. Jan 09 16:43:54 it seems you guys have been working hard :) 623 revs... Jan 09 16:44:06 wb Ifaistos Jan 09 16:44:11 How are you doing? Jan 09 16:44:36 pH5: I see. So they are both needed. Jan 09 16:45:18 Laibsch: yes, I don't think I pulled kpengine out of kanjipad. Jan 09 16:45:18 Laibsch : Good. Been working on getting code to run on nvdia gpu's... missed OE to tell you the truth :) Jan 09 16:46:22 one of the locals is watching the dutch page Jan 09 16:46:22 Laibsch : Did you find time to test icecc ? Jan 09 16:46:33 Ifaistos: Sure. Jan 09 16:46:42 I was eagerly waiting for your return. Jan 09 16:46:52 icecc still does not distribute jobs for me. Jan 09 16:47:01 Neither in OE, nor with plain make. Jan 09 16:47:09 Let me dig up the logs. Jan 09 16:47:35 Ifaistos, do you have any of the GPU stuff in OE? Jan 09 16:47:41 Ifaistos: http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/icecc_scheduler.log Jan 09 16:48:25 Ifaistos: I have two machines currently. 192.168.1.10 which has OE and is running the scheduler and 192.168.1.12 which is the client. Jan 09 16:49:24 likewise contacted coolo from kde.org who seems to be the maintainer for icecc since neither he nor I found a way to get my client to produce any log. Jan 09 16:49:55 Crofton : No. Its a 'weird' project.... Doing sound processing using a display card :) Jan 09 16:50:25 Ifaistos: Rie is the hostname for .10 Jan 09 16:50:47 Crofton_ : But the new video cards have amazing processing power... Jan 09 16:50:53 Ifaistos: You said you missed OE. What were you up to? Jan 09 16:51:29 yeah, I want to do software radio on a GPU at some point Jan 09 16:52:11 Laibsch : Doing sound processing using a video card :) Jan 09 16:52:31 I thought you might have taken a vacation. Jan 09 16:53:33 Crofton_ : www.nvidia.com/cuda Jan 09 16:53:46 ah Jan 09 16:53:54 How easy is it to use? Jan 09 16:55:45 Crofton_ : well it takes sometime to get used to the principles, especially parallel execution to a large number of data sets Jan 09 16:56:17 Crofton : and try to reprecent your data sets as 2d values.... Jan 09 16:56:17 cool Jan 09 16:56:32 grrr need to get stupid thesis behind me and start working on good stuff Jan 09 16:56:51 are data sets are complex numbers Jan 09 16:58:00 Crofton : 32bit floats Jan 09 16:58:16 in GPU? Jan 09 16:58:37 Laibsch : looking at the logs... Jan 09 16:58:45 thank you. Jan 09 16:59:33 Crofton : yes. 64bit ieee format handling coming soon... (at least for the new cards that cost an arm and a leg to get) Jan 09 17:00:56 the apple iTV has an 'intel proc' Jan 09 17:01:06 * koen wonders if it's arm of x86 Jan 09 17:01:19 koen: ia-32 Jan 09 17:01:22 Laibsch : From a first look, it seems that you do distribute compile jobs but only to the same machine Rie Jan 09 17:01:42 Ifaistos: Which is meaningless. Jan 09 17:01:56 I want it to distribute to 192.168.1.10 as well. Jan 09 17:03:18 Laibsch : yes. but it means icecc is working... Jan 09 17:03:46 yes Jan 09 17:03:54 Laibsch : i think you have not set up 192.168.1.10 correctly. i can see broadcasts in the logs Jan 09 17:04:14 Laibsch : but no login Jan 09 17:04:24 And .10 is also contacting the scheduler. It just never receives any work. likewise said that it looked like .10 never really logged into the scheduler. Jan 09 17:04:47 Ifaistos: Well, same analysis from you and likewise, here. Jan 09 17:05:14 Ifaistos: What can you set up wrongly, I wonder. Jan 09 17:05:30 Laibsch : post the icecc.conf of the .10 Jan 09 17:05:39 Just a minute Jan 09 17:05:41 Laibsch : and .12 Jan 09 17:08:37 .10 is at http://rafb.net/p/SuB6xK88.html Jan 09 17:08:50 I correct, that is .12 Jan 09 17:08:53 the client. Jan 09 17:10:27 the scheduler .10 is at http://rafb.net/p/sGZQfP37.html Jan 09 17:11:13 Ifaistos: /var/log/iceccd.log does not exist on .10 Jan 09 17:11:40 Laibsch : You need to set the network name on the client and all the clients that you want to join the specific network Jan 09 17:12:03 Laibsch : CECC_NETNAME="pfaffe3" Jan 09 17:12:46 OK, I will try that. Jan 09 17:13:24 Laibsch : also set the number of jobs to the number of cpu's on the machine + 1. ie. for single cpu it should be 3 Jan 09 17:13:26 $299 for iTV Jan 09 17:15:43 http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Little_Black_Book.aspx Jan 09 17:18:50 Laibsch : I have to go. will be back in an hour or so Jan 09 17:19:07 Ifaistos: Thank you. See you later. Jan 09 17:20:27 I wonder how he plans to keep the screen clean? Jan 09 17:20:57 zecke_: "iphone runs OS X" Jan 09 17:21:44 breakthrough? Jan 09 17:23:07 koen: hehe Jan 09 17:23:14 ModelViewControler Jan 09 17:28:24 zecke_: is the head of bitbake safe to use, or should I be on some branch? Jan 09 17:30:49 pb__: the 1.6 is known stable. trunk seems to work fairly good as well Jan 09 17:33:48 rock Jan 09 17:33:50 thanks Jan 09 17:36:33 koen, did you order an iphone yet? Jan 09 17:39:53 hrw|gone: will do 3100/3200 testing opie/gpe (openzaurus list...) Jan 09 17:41:14 it looks like the FIC device Jan 09 17:44:20 koen, can you zap me your local.conf used to build the h5000 image? I just rebuilt my gpe-image and a boostrap image and cannot boot either Jan 09 17:44:58 kergoth: good way to keep your job ;) Jan 09 17:45:46 zecke_: but it has an accelerometer! now you can measure the g's if you drop your phone. Jan 09 17:46:05 pH5: warranty void if acceleration > Jan 09 17:49:59 :) shaking it to reset crashed applications would be very intuitive UI though Jan 09 17:50:39 * pb__ go home Jan 09 17:50:40 later all Jan 09 17:53:30 re Jan 09 17:53:47 re Jan 09 17:55:53 mreimer: I just got a new nokia 6210 :) Jan 09 17:56:06 mccarthy: did you update OE in the mean time? Jan 09 17:56:09 http://www.macrumorslive.com/ Jan 09 17:56:26 I did a mtn pull and a mtn update (that's all I need,right?) Jan 09 17:57:38 mccarthy: right Jan 09 17:58:05 mccarthy: bootstrap-image boots for me Jan 09 17:58:09 didn't try gpe yet Jan 09 18:08:04 the iTV could have problems in the UK :-) Jan 09 18:16:28 koen, could you put your local.conf in a pastebin or something so I could try yours? Jan 09 18:16:35 koen: should these blueprobe fixes go upstream? Jan 09 18:16:59 would an update of OE have forced bitbake to rebuild anything that it needed to rebuild? Jan 09 18:18:02 koen: ah forget what i said... i read oe-commits before gpe-list :-) Jan 09 18:19:15 mccarthy: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/h5xxx/local.conf Jan 09 18:19:37 mccarthy: I'll try to catch mmp to get X working later this week Jan 09 18:19:43 koen, thanks Jan 09 18:20:20 well, your ipod cell phone is going to cost 500-600 usd Jan 09 18:21:55 4GB model - $499 Jan 09 18:22:19 499 = 500 usd :) Jan 09 18:22:32 we are all getting PS3's instead Jan 09 18:22:35 koen: are you looking for mmp's patch to make fb work on h5xxx? Jan 09 18:23:07 mreimer: I know where to find the patch, but I want mmp's advice on it Jan 09 18:26:32 koen, so even if the gpe-image boots, I should not expect the display to work until the patch is worked in somewhere? Jan 09 18:27:23 mccarthy: right Jan 09 18:27:33 mccarthy: i got reminded of that today Jan 09 18:27:40 fb0: not found Jan 09 18:29:49 pH5: Unfortunately, your kanjipad does not compile anymore, either. http://rafb.net/p/qOWZ7x27.html Jan 09 18:31:41 florian: in theory I could even apply that patch myself :D Jan 09 18:32:34 Laibsch: in my patches you'll see that the kanjipad .bb is modified to only compile kpengine. the kanjipad ui itself never compiled for me. Jan 09 18:32:59 But what did you use then? Jan 09 18:33:10 koen: good idea :-) if you like you can do it in the official way of course... Jan 09 18:33:25 florian: I *cough* don't have a gforge account Jan 09 18:33:29 pH5: For making that screenshot you needed to have some kind of GUI Jan 09 18:33:49 Laibsch: gpe-kanjipad Jan 09 18:34:04 OK, let me see. Jan 09 18:34:10 Laibsch: but kanjipad is modified so that it only compiles kpengine Jan 09 18:34:30 koen: i could explain to you how to get one ;) Jan 09 18:34:41 :) Jan 09 18:35:25 Laibsch: not necessarily - there is the "scap" script to upload a screenshot to hh.org - you don't even need to see anything Jan 09 18:36:55 florian: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~zabel/gpe-kanjipad/gpe-kanjipad-screenshot.png Jan 09 18:37:06 I was not talking about just taking any screenshot Jan 09 18:37:13 But that particular one ;-) Jan 09 18:37:20 There was a GUI! Jan 09 18:37:30 for kanjipad, not scap. Jan 09 18:37:44 :-) Jan 09 18:37:46 cool! Jan 09 18:38:23 time to drink beer and bribe people to get a press card for next summer Jan 09 18:38:41 to where? Jan 09 18:39:08 Crofton: http://lowlands.nl/home.asp Jan 09 18:39:10 later all Jan 09 18:44:20 pH5: "build gpe-kanjipad" fails for the same reason. I guess I will need to look into this more closely. Jan 09 18:48:35 Laibsch: because gpe-kanjipad depends on kanjipad for the backend. edit the kanjipad.bb and disable compilation of kanjipad itself. Perhaps this would have been more clear if I had named it kpengine.bb from the start. Jan 09 18:57:32 Laibsch : did it work ? Jan 09 19:02:25 Hello Jan 09 19:15:13 Hi! Is it working? Jan 09 19:16:56 Hi! Jan 09 19:17:25 Am I on the good channel regarding OE questions? Jan 09 19:17:40 sza2: see topic :-) Jan 09 19:18:10 hrw: any hints regarding psplash turning off on gpe boot you mentioned? I don't seen any gpe-related stuff at rootfs, only generic QUIT at boot "end". Jan 09 19:18:37 OK. So I've a problem compiling gnumeric, abiword etc. Jan 09 19:19:19 Or should I connect to #gpe? Jan 09 19:19:27 sza2: here should do Jan 09 19:19:38 sza2: but speed up I have to go in 5 mins Jan 09 19:20:14 gconf-osso cannot compile. Jan 09 19:20:41 sza2: set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_gconf = "gconf" Jan 09 19:20:48 It said ORBit or D-BUS missing. Jan 09 19:21:17 Where? I'm a newbie... Jan 09 19:21:31 sza2: sorry PREFERRED_PROVIDER_gconf = "gconf-dbus" in local.conf Jan 09 19:21:43 Thank you! Jan 09 19:22:15 sza2: BTW what distro? Jan 09 19:22:30 is there something specific I should do about a gcc 4.X error when compiling qemu for angstrom? Jan 09 19:22:35 Eeerrr.... No distro. Jan 09 19:22:50 hx4700 (arm5te) Jan 09 19:22:57 mccarthy: seems you need a native gcc-3.x compiler installed Jan 09 19:23:05 mccarthy: I ran in the same problem last week Jan 09 19:23:10 philippe, ok thanks Jan 09 19:23:17 (time to run synaptic) Jan 09 19:23:24 sza2: you'll be much better off using a distro Jan 09 19:23:29 philippe, you did not build a gpe image for h5000 did you? Jan 09 19:23:55 But familiar not supported. Which one I should choose? Jan 09 19:24:27 sza2: generic or angstrom depending on if you want OABI or EABI Jan 09 19:25:16 :-) Nice. I have no idea about these. I'll check on google:-) Jan 09 19:25:39 sza2: if you set a distro then this problem doesnt occur as we maintin them for buildability Jan 09 19:25:59 anyway I must convert to really gone now, bye Jan 09 19:26:54 MACHINE = hx4700 ; TARGET_OS = linux ; DISTRO = generic ; Is it usable? Jan 09 19:27:03 florian, did you build an image for a1200 yet? Jan 09 19:27:18 (not nagging just checking since you said you were planning to) Jan 09 19:27:33 sza2: that should work Jan 09 19:28:20 XorA|gone, go away already ;) Jan 09 19:28:36 I added PREFERRED_PROVIDER_gconf = "gconf-dbus" to local.conf. Now compiling... Jan 09 19:30:14 mccarthy: nope. I have a h3600 image and now I am trying to get 2.6 to boot nicely for 3800. I get to a shell but as the root password is not set I cannot login and try to debug why the framebuffer doesn't work. Jan 09 19:31:02 philippe, koen|away was saying that there is some patch from mmp that is needed to get fb to work on the h5000 Jan 09 19:31:12 I just thought you might have the patch Jan 09 19:33:28 Still the same:-( Jan 09 19:37:56 checking for GCONF_DBUS... configure: error: You need either ORBit or D-BUS for IPC Jan 09 19:46:18 Need arm-linux-g77 for compiling? It is missing for me. Jan 09 19:48:00 Am I alone? Jan 09 19:50:28 huh, creepy :) Jan 09 19:50:43 no, you don't need g77. I think it is the fortran compiler Jan 09 19:51:47 yes, I know. But configure say: missing. However no error, just warn. Jan 09 19:52:29 the libtool autoconf macro checks for it. not having g77 is harmless in nearly all cases Jan 09 19:52:37 Lot of packages depend on gconf-osso. Jan 09 19:53:30 ~seen mmp Jan 09 19:53:38 ? Jan 09 19:53:51 mmp was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 4d 28m 36s ago, saying: 'florian_kc: hi:)'. Jan 09 19:54:27 First I though g77 cause the problem, but now I know do not. Jan 09 19:54:46 But still not work :-((( Jan 09 19:56:18 Hi Master of OE :-) Jan 09 19:59:02 I have some problem with the OE, a fail compilation because he don't find the libsupc++ file Jan 09 19:59:12 when he compile the bcc Jan 09 19:59:15 gcc Jan 09 19:59:21 am begining Jan 09 20:00:19 does everything before that work ok? Jan 09 20:00:29 are you sure you have the dev packages you need installed? Jan 09 20:01:54 Normaly i have all installed.. he make some compilation before ... Jan 09 20:01:59 without problem.. Jan 09 20:02:18 but he fail with gcc Jan 09 20:02:41 wich dev package I need to find this file in particular Jan 09 20:03:49 what distro and machine? Jan 09 20:04:13 host or target ? Jan 09 20:04:49 in oe, what distro and machine are you using? Jan 09 20:04:58 what is in your local.conf? Jan 09 20:05:44 machine is a custom... for mipsel Jan 09 20:05:59 distro is a generic based test Jan 09 20:06:05 ok Jan 09 20:06:39 I want to compile package for a "closed source" mipsel based linux Jan 09 20:06:44 ObiSama: Because of your nick, are you by chance interested in Japanese? Jan 09 20:06:47 kernel 2.4.18 Jan 09 20:07:34 Laibsch : I am not Japanese , only a FAN of Manga and Japan... because the Sama lol Jan 09 20:07:55 Do you speak Japanese? Jan 09 20:08:43 No, :-( --> Swiss Mountains powered Jan 09 20:10:21 ewww....2.4 kernel? Jan 09 20:12:14 2.4.18 ... for mipsel .. kernel is firware part and not customisable because no sources are provided by the manufacturer Jan 09 20:13:08 but if a hard disk is mounted , a root directory with applications based on linux is provided... Jan 09 20:13:18 I want to add somes application at firt step Jan 09 20:13:39 I hope to get the sources part from manufacturer but not easy Jan 09 20:16:26 board is this one ---> http://www.linux-mips.org/wiki/Marvell_Firehawk Jan 09 20:34:35 Bye! Jan 09 20:52:42 hi Jan 09 20:52:59 how i can compile hostap with aireplay patch for my zaurus on my Mac OSX Jan 09 21:08:07 <[cc]smart> Haven't been committing anything for a while... so i don't know possible changed commit policy... still ok to commit non intrusive changes to trunk directly ? Jan 09 21:08:52 don't cause problems :) Jan 09 21:09:02 I think that is the policy Jan 09 21:09:22 <[cc]smart> new package. so no problems :) Jan 09 21:09:22 what do you need to commit? Jan 09 21:09:45 <[cc]smart> i'm trying to get http://g15tools.sourceforge.net/ going Jan 09 21:11:14 I usually commit new stuff Jan 09 21:11:35 but if I need to get near stuff that will impact lots of people I try to at least mention it in the channel Jan 09 21:11:42 when people are awake Jan 09 21:15:31 <[cc]smart> I remember there were rule for the commit message... do you know where they are to read ? Jan 09 21:16:02 hmmm Jan 09 21:18:21 http://www.openembedded.org/aggregator/sources Jan 09 21:18:27 might help, by example Jan 09 21:18:56 anyone else having problems with ftp.debian.org ? Jan 09 21:36:16 <[cc]smart> no connection Jan 09 21:38:28 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbebce5f8... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh7.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16-hh7: Drop old version, no longer supported by recent GPE/OPIE. Jan 09 21:38:32 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rb774c131... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh9.bb): Jan 09 21:38:32 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16-hh9: New subrelease. Changes since -hh8 are: Jan 09 21:38:32 1. UDC and BT fixes for h5000. Jan 09 21:38:32 2. mq11xx_base unloading fixed. Jan 09 21:38:33 3. "[ARM] 4078/1: Fix ARM copypage cache coherency problems" backported from Jan 09 21:38:35 git-head. Jan 09 21:38:37 4. More ide/wifi PCMCIA card IDs added (merged OE patches). Jan 09 21:38:41 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r16ee14a8... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.16-hh9.bb): linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.16-hh9: Kill my variant in favor of upstream. Jan 09 21:38:44 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rd0485909... 10/ (1 packages/ossie/ossiecf_svn.bb): Jan 09 21:38:46 ossiecf_svn.bb : Add EXTRA_OECONF so configure script can find omniorb and Jan 09 21:38:48 omniidl. Jan 09 21:38:50 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * rcd65725a... 10/ (1 packages/ossie/ossiecf_svn.bb): ossiecf_svn.bb : Add CXXFLAGS_powerpc to work around libtool problem. Jan 09 21:38:55 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r790c23e8... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/kanjipad_svn.bb): kanjipad: DEPENDS on gtk+ instead of gtk Jan 09 21:38:58 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re9c7e950... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): tslib: remove magician specific configuration again, it works without Jan 09 21:39:01 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r936fcb64... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6/magician/defconfig): linux-handhelds-2.6: enable OSS emulation in magician defconfig Jan 09 21:39:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78e039db... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): basefiles: fix h5000 fstab Jan 09 21:39:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r54d43c82... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): blueprobe: fix serial ports for h5000 and h3900, and use HWUART on h5000 Jan 09 21:39:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra353d9a0... 10/ (1 packages/blueprobe/blueprobe-0.17/hwuart.patch): blueprobe: fix patch Jan 09 21:39:16 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r23b49970... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-handhelds-2.6_2.6.17-hh4.bb): Jan 09 21:39:18 linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.17-hh4: Add new subrelease. Changes since -hh3 are: Jan 09 21:39:20 1. h2200 compilation fixes. Jan 09 21:39:21 oh, somebody must have kicked CIA-4 Jan 09 21:39:22 2. "[ARM] 4078/1: Fix ARM copypage cache coherency problems" backported from Jan 09 21:39:24 git-head. Jan 09 21:39:25 ;-) Jan 09 21:39:29 yup Jan 09 21:41:32 <_law_> whats the difference between angstrom summary and normal image? Jan 09 21:43:09 _law_: the summary jffs2 image has some additional information in the fs that is supposed to make the kernel mount the image faster. Jan 09 21:43:44 <_law_> pH5: so i should use summary? Jan 09 21:45:24 bye Jan 09 21:46:40 _law_: Not sure. Todd stopped using them because they had some issues in 2.6.15, but I never had any problems (up to 2.6.17). Jan 09 21:47:21 re Jan 09 21:47:47 ibot: botmail for mccarthy Yes, its finished but i didnÄt try it so far. Jan 09 21:54:54 hi everybody, having some trouble bitbaking "starling" specifically b/c "nothing provides runtime dependency gst-plugin-audio" and other gst dependencies Jan 09 21:55:01 possibly b/c I'm entirely new to this Jan 09 21:55:17 can someone point me in the right direction? Jan 09 22:04:52 ~lart ftp.debian.org Jan 09 22:04:52 * ibot whacks ftp.debian.org with the cluebat Jan 09 22:08:39 <[cc]smart> how was mtn sync to be used ? seems i'm either lacking arguments or having wrong version. Jan 09 22:18:51 mtn pull and ptn push Jan 09 22:25:08 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r62f0b434... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jan 09 22:25:08 opie-taskbar: Comment out getkey calls, as no longer available with current OE's busyboxes. Jan 09 22:25:08 * Closes #1649. Jan 09 22:25:08 * Few TODOs for this package: Jan 09 22:25:08 1. Drop htcuniversal/opie - it only sets TS/keys devices, and that should be done Jan 09 22:25:09 by other means (and need for that is questionable, as other HH.org devices work Jan 09 22:25:11 without any explicit sets). Jan 09 22:25:15 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r955df916... 10/ (1 packages/qte/qte-2.3.10/qpe.patch): Jan 09 22:25:17 qte 2.3.10: Build with support for mouse cursor. Jan 09 22:25:19 * Mouse cursor is shown only if mouse input driver is actually in use, Jan 09 22:25:21 (no used if touchscreen). Jan 09 22:25:23 * Extends supported machine base and eases dbeugging. Jan 09 22:25:25 * Tested on qemuarm (and h4000). Jan 09 22:32:41 <[cc]smart> I/O failure while talking to peer. guess i have the wrong monotone version. will check tomorrow Jan 09 22:33:05 what version do you have? Jan 09 22:33:57 <[cc]smart> 0.32 Jan 09 22:34:12 hmm Jan 09 22:34:24 that is what I have Jan 09 22:34:35 <[cc]smart> er Jan 09 22:34:53 <[cc]smart> can you see my key in mtn list keys ? Jan 09 22:35:33 <[cc]smart> grep smart Jan 09 22:35:48 ccsmart Jan 09 22:35:55 <[cc]smart> yes Jan 09 22:35:59 yep Jan 09 22:36:09 oe.org and smartpal.de Jan 09 22:36:17 <[cc]smart> 2 of them ? Jan 09 22:36:23 yeah Jan 09 22:36:48 <[cc]smart> surprises me a little Jan 09 22:38:07 <[cc]smart> then i don't get it for now. Jan 09 22:38:23 <[cc]smart> anyways. tomorrow is a good day too. Jan 09 22:38:27 <[cc]smart> n8 Jan 09 22:38:41 good night Jan 09 22:38:54 check in earlier when more guys are awake :) Jan 09 22:50:48 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r4ea75400... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-mini-browser/gpe-mini-browser_svn.bb): Jan 09 22:50:48 packages/gpe-mini-browser_svn.bb Jan 09 22:50:48 * updated svn location according to svn restructuration in GPE Jan 09 23:50:59 hey Jan 09 23:51:06 ~seen noha__ Jan 09 23:51:17 noha__ was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 5h 7m 38s ago, saying: 'Any hints which kernel is best to use for a simpad build?'. Jan 10 00:29:24 this openembedded thing might actually pay off Jan 10 00:29:40 I have my sdr stuff sort of running on EFIKA now Jan 10 00:29:45 and omap5912osk Jan 10 01:05:14 Crofton|home: nice :) Jan 10 01:44:20 Hm, I'm getting spammed with "eth0: Information frame lost." with scp'ing stuff over wlan. Is that bad? Jan 10 01:46:48 nite Jan 10 02:01:15 DataBeaver: what Z? what kind of connection? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jan 10 03:00:00 2007