**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 25 02:59:56 2007
Apr 25 03:23:21 <CoreDump|home> hvontres|home: I'll add it tomorrow, I'm too tired now. n8!
Apr 25 04:46:11 * cbrake wonders why u-boot is being built during my compulab build?
Apr 25 04:46:32 <cbrake> methinks angstrom dependencies are out of control ...
Apr 25 05:01:04 <cbrake> must have been a failed kernel dependency -- fixed that and things seem to be proceeding normally now.
Apr 25 07:17:56 <keesj> Hi
Apr 25 07:31:42 <zecke> mal
Apr 25 07:31:44 <zecke> :)
Apr 25 07:34:42 <hrw> morning
Apr 25 07:38:03 <keesj> hi
Apr 25 07:40:30 <hvontres|home> hrw: morning :)
Apr 25 07:42:55 <hvontres|zzZZzz> n8 all
Apr 25 07:46:41 <hrw> n8 hvontres|zzZZzz 
Apr 25 07:51:52 <Ifaistos> morning all
Apr 25 07:57:57 <djay-il> good morning'
Apr 25 08:05:14 <Readon> hello, are there any tutorials about how to specific kernel config and make kernel patches for my device?
Apr 25 08:12:18 <zecke> Readon: no the doc writers didn't know your device when writing the doc :)
Apr 25 08:12:18 <zecke> Readon: and I think the approach is you have a config and a set of patches already
Apr 25 08:12:18 <zecke> Readon: and then just take a look at packages/linux and the generic kernel recipe
Apr 25 08:15:27 <Readon> zecke: do you mean modify the existing recipe? i really need a turtorial about that. 
Apr 25 08:16:52 <zecke> write one and contribute :)
Apr 25 08:16:53 <Readon> zecke: i really want to use oe as a development environment
Apr 25 08:18:44 <Ifaistos> zecke : morning
Apr 25 08:19:12 <Readon> i would, after i get it work.:)
Apr 25 08:20:25 <zecke> Readon: read the documentation about how to add a package
Apr 25 08:20:25 <zecke> Readon: read about the OVERRIDE system in the manual and then there is nothing special for the kernel
Apr 25 08:20:25 <zecke> Readon: e.g. take a look at the dev-shell and check if it is enough for you
Apr 25 08:20:32 <keesj> can I disable qemu build in the angstrom nano
Apr 25 08:21:11 <zecke> keesj: disable building because the one you have is better?
Apr 25 08:21:19 <zecke> keesj: in that case ASSUME_PROVIDED the qemu
Apr 25 08:24:31 <Readon> zecke: what does dev-shell mean?
Apr 25 08:26:11 <keesj> yes mine is better (and compiled with gcc 4.1.1)
Apr 25 08:37:29 <florian> good morning
Apr 25 09:29:57 <hrw> ~lart OE for 'ipkg-build: not found'
Apr 25 09:29:57 * ibot throws OE's poor little doggy off a cliff for 'ipkg-build: not found'
Apr 25 09:55:15 <hrw> ~summon koen
Apr 25 09:55:20 <ibot> apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing koen's coordinates
Apr 25 10:01:57 <Laibsch> How do I *force* OE to do do_fetch again.  OE believes it completed it successfully but the tar seems broken, so I deleted it.
Apr 25 10:02:02 <Laibsch> ?
Apr 25 10:02:14 <zecke> Laibsch: remove the stamp?
Apr 25 10:02:16 <hrw> remove md5 
Apr 25 10:02:18 <keesj> touch downloads/*.md5 
Apr 25 10:02:37 <hrw> not touch but remove
Apr 25 10:03:19 <zecke> hrw: we need something like mrproper for only one source
Apr 25 10:03:58 <Laibsch> yes, that would be nice.  I believe I already removed the stamps but I must have overlooked something.
Apr 25 10:04:53 <zecke> okay enought Free Software for today
Apr 25 10:05:02 <woglinde> hehe
Apr 25 10:05:07 <Laibsch> zecke: Wow, you quit early ;-)
Apr 25 10:13:00 <zecke> "I have a current system which runs on 2.4.26 kernel.  I'm planning to upgrade it to kernel 2.6.10" hmm
Apr 25 10:13:10 <zecke> why not upgrade it to linux 1.1.103...
Apr 25 12:14:47 <Crofton> gm
Apr 25 12:19:30 <Bernardo> hi
Apr 25 12:20:04 <Bernardo> psokolovsky: I'm trying to build opie-image on angstrom, and it has built gnome-common, is this a known situation?
Apr 25 12:44:18 <keesj> cd
Apr 25 12:44:49 <thesing> hi all
Apr 25 12:47:10 <hrw> hi Thomas
Apr 25 12:52:58 <thesing> any suggestions, how the cancel button should work? For now it sends ESC to the application that has the focus util the collie suspends. But I don't know if thats desirable.
Apr 25 12:54:12 <hrw> I thiink that Cancel hold should not be sending ESC
Apr 25 12:56:59 <thesing> But thats what users are used to. The exact key can be changed in the keymap anyway. The question is if it should report keypresses if hold down to suspend.
Apr 25 13:03:34 <Jin^eLD> I have problems compiling libgpg-error, really weird, could someone take a look at the log? http://www.pastebin.ca/457504
Apr 25 13:03:54 <Jin^eLD> I think it comes down to this "cvs [checkout aborted]: no such tag gettext-0_14_5", but why would it want to check out gettext stuff in the first place?
Apr 25 13:04:09 <Jin^eLD> especially after running autoreconf, that makes no sense to me
Apr 25 13:08:11 <erdinger> any clue on when the oe websites will be back up?
Apr 25 13:11:40 <Jin^eLD> hey likewise, how is it going?
Apr 25 13:12:01 <likewise> Jin^eLD: being at home, sick today, but for the rest, everything's fine
Apr 25 13:12:08 <Bernardo> hi Jin^eLD
Apr 25 13:12:16 <Jin^eLD> I've been away for 3 weeks, holidays :>
Apr 25 13:12:18 <Jin^eLD> hi Bernardo 
Apr 25 13:12:50 <Bernardo> I've got to apologise - I've never been able to test properly the fixes for mediatomb the dsm320rd
Apr 25 13:13:12 <Jin^eLD> Bernardo: that's ok :) but at least some people got the subtitles working
Apr 25 13:13:20 <Jin^eLD> I had feedback on the forums
Apr 25 13:13:44 <Bernardo> mine is now packaged, and I'll put it in ebay as soon as I can find the RMA papers
Apr 25 13:13:54 <Jin^eLD> :)
Apr 25 13:16:15 <likewise> Jin^eLD: good, did you go anywhere?
Apr 25 13:17:52 <Jin^eLD> likewise: yes, I was visiting my girlfriend in Minsk, .by
Apr 25 13:18:28 <Jin^eLD> it was planned that I go for 2 weeks, but I liked it so much that I stayed longer :)
Apr 25 13:18:57 <Bernardo> on angstrom/opie - anyone else has had his akita fully corrupted using this combination? Yesterday I suddenly got a blank screen, and only a nand recovery got it back to work
Apr 25 13:19:17 <erdinger> Bernardo: I tried angstrom gpe on my akita
Apr 25 13:19:21 <erdinger> X11 didn'
Apr 25 13:19:23 <likewise> Jin^eLD: nice
Apr 25 13:19:26 <erdinger> didn't start either
Apr 25 13:19:43 <Bernardo> erdinger: I got X11 to start on my akita, but all file open dialogs would crash the apps.
Apr 25 13:19:43 <erdinger> Bernardo: I just wanted to try the latest development but the servers seam offline
Apr 25 13:19:44 <Jin^eLD> likewise: have you been doing anything with the wis?
Apr 25 13:20:05 <erdinger> Bernardo: hm hm for me it didn't even start propper. but that was like 3 weeks ago..
Apr 25 13:20:07 <likewise> Jin^eLD: no, the encoder is not in yet. I plan to ask for the decoder when the encoder is in
Apr 25 13:20:08 <Bernardo> but this was worst - opie worked fine for a couple of weeks, and then a corrupted nand
Apr 25 13:20:32 <erdinger> it destroyed your flash?
Apr 25 13:20:55 <Jin^eLD> likewise: I see.. well I have not been doing anything for almost a month now :)
Apr 25 13:21:16 <Bernardo> erdinger: I built my angstrom-x11 image on the 4th of april, and it loaded x, but had the file open dialogs problem
Apr 25 13:21:31 <Bernardo> opie-angstrom destroyed my flash yesterday
Apr 25 13:21:45 <Bernardo> white screen out of nowhere, then it wouldn't boot.
Apr 25 13:21:48 <erdinger> unfixably?
Apr 25 13:21:53 <Bernardo> got to the recovery console
Apr 25 13:22:01 <Bernardo> using the "reset+d+m"
Apr 25 13:22:26 <Bernardo> then decided to leave out the battery for some time to see if it was some capacitor problem
Apr 25 13:22:49 <erdinger> oh i had such a problem too
Apr 25 13:22:49 <Bernardo> and I wouldn't get the diag console
Apr 25 13:23:03 <Bernardo> left the battery out all night, and got to diag again
Apr 25 13:23:12 <Bernardo> so I did a nand backup
Apr 25 13:23:13 <erdinger> didn't turn on anymore- than i took out everything, including the battery for a coupple of hours- then it worked fine again
Apr 25 13:23:24 <Bernardo> and then restored my pre-angstrom nand backup
Apr 25 13:24:09 <Bernardo> lost everything I had done the 3 weeks
Apr 25 13:24:16 <erdinger> ah happens
Apr 25 13:24:22 <erdinger> unstable is unstable....
Apr 25 13:24:31 <erdinger> i wouldn't work on an unstable distro myself
Apr 25 13:24:42 <Bernardo> lol
Apr 25 13:24:45 <Bernardo> I knew that
Apr 25 13:24:49 <erdinger> but i'd like to test it so i'm really looking forward to see the servers back on
Apr 25 13:25:03 <Bernardo> and I had a scheme to sync my "home" dir with my home pc, over wifi
Apr 25 13:25:40 <Bernardo> only problem is that the latest kernel in oe panics with a sandisk connect plus (the only cf-wifi card I have)
Apr 25 13:25:41 <erdinger> Bernardo: So you got some of your things backed up?
Apr 25 13:25:56 <erdinger> oh that sucks
Apr 25 13:26:15 <erdinger> I have a hawking prism2 based cf card here
Apr 25 13:26:32 <Bernardo> I should have done more backups
Apr 25 13:26:44 <erdinger> Maybe :(
Apr 25 13:27:17 <Bernardo> but I had never seen such a crash on my akita, with the flash corrupted
Apr 25 13:27:25 <erdinger> hm
Apr 25 13:27:35 <erdinger> btw.. did you notice anything new in angstrom?
Apr 25 13:27:56 <Bernardo> no, seemed faster, but not much that was new
Apr 25 13:28:06 <erdinger> alright
Apr 25 13:28:14 <erdinger> which kernel did it run?
Apr 25 13:28:34 <Bernardo> 2.6.20
Apr 25 13:28:51 <erdinger> nice
Apr 25 13:30:11 <erdinger> Bernardo: does www.angstrom-distribution.org work for you?
Apr 25 13:30:41 <Bernardo> nope, still dead
Apr 25 13:31:12 <hrw> LTG has problem with overloaded machine
Apr 25 13:31:45 <Bernardo> hi hrw
Apr 25 13:31:47 <erdinger> hrw: oh ok. What's LTG?
Apr 25 13:33:02 <hrw> LinuxToGo Organization
Apr 25 13:33:17 <hrw> LTG hosts OE, OZ, Angstrom, GPE and some other projects
Apr 25 13:34:04 <erdinger> ok
Apr 25 13:34:12 <erdinger> hrw: My heros :)
Apr 25 14:21:24 <mrdata> hi all
Apr 25 14:25:01 <thesing> hi mrdata
Apr 25 14:25:24 <mrdata> hi thesing, i have waiting for you ;-)
Apr 25 14:25:33 <thesing> mrdata: do you still have resume problems with pcmcia on simpad?
Apr 25 14:25:50 <mrdata> yes, and solved with quick hack
Apr 25 14:26:23 <thesing> what did you do?
Apr 25 14:26:32 <thesing> I have the same problem on collie.
Apr 25 14:26:55 <mrdata> the error comes from /drivers/pcmcia/sa1100-generic.c
Apr 25 14:27:40 <hvontres|poodle> psokolovsky: do you know if the keymap handling in opie 1.2.3 has changed? I tested my poodle image last night, and the shift key and the buttons don't work.
Apr 25 14:27:49 <mrdata> there are sa11x0-pcmcia handelt with struct device_driver
Apr 25 14:28:36 <thesing> and thats wrong?
Apr 25 14:29:19 <mrdata> the define for sa11x0-pcmcia is platform_device in /arch/arm/mach-sa1100/generic.c
Apr 25 14:30:01 <mrdata> so for sa11x0-pcmcia should struct platform_driver
Apr 25 14:30:08 <mrdata> be used
Apr 25 14:31:02 <mrdata> now, if suspend is in progress, in /drivers/base/platform.c for suspend_late i get an error
Apr 25 14:34:08 <mrdata> the conversion from device_driver dev->driver to platform_driver *drv gives a wrong drv->suspend_late pionter
Apr 25 14:35:05 <mrdata> because device_driver have no suspend_late, i think
Apr 25 14:35:43 <thesing> I'll try this and see what I get.
Apr 25 14:37:05 <mrdata> sa11x0-pcmcia sa11x0-pcmcia: LATE suspend
Apr 25 14:37:09 <mrdata>  Enter platform.c -> platform_suspend_late() ...
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata> suspend_late -> (pdev) Platform_Device.name/id: sa11x0-pcmcia/-1
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata>  suspend_late Pointer dev: *0xC0276480
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata>  suspend_late Pointer dev->driver: *0xC0284C94
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata>  suspend_late Pointer drv: *0xC0284C78
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata>  suspend_late Pointer drv->suspend_late: *0x645F6370
Apr 25 14:37:13 <mrdata>  suspend_late Pointer pdev: *0xC0276478
Apr 25 14:37:50 <mrdata> the pointer 0x645F6370 gives the error, so suspend will not work
Apr 25 14:39:04 <mrdata> i can give you my version from platform.c for debugging, if you wish
Apr 25 14:40:02 <thesing> that would be fine. could you also give me your sa1100_generic.c ?
Apr 25 14:40:33 <mrdata> in sa1100_gerneric.c i have not make any changes
Apr 25 14:41:28 <mrdata> thesing: for witch kernel-version? i use 2.6.20 and 2.6.21-rc7  
Apr 25 14:41:53 <thesing> 2.6.20
Apr 25 14:42:55 <mrdata> thesing: okay, with wich way you will get the file?
Apr 25 14:43:37 <thesing> mail? (thommy at tabao dot de )
Apr 25 14:44:06 <mrdata> thesing: okay, i will use this
Apr 25 14:44:25 <mrdata> thesing: give me some minutes
Apr 25 14:45:45 <psokolovsky> hvontres|poodle: nothing should have changed for zaurus. everything is controlled by kernel keymap. if it's ok, opie should be also ok.
Apr 25 15:07:45 <thesing> mrdata: thanks for the tip. it work now without errors.
Apr 25 15:10:11 <mrdata> thesing: okay, mail is send to you
Apr 25 15:11:23 <thesing> mrdata: thanks, but I have it already working ;)
Apr 25 15:11:31 <hvontres|poodle> psokolovsky: That's what I thought, but the shift key works in console but not in opie. I wonder if the kernel-keymap patch was left out somehow
Apr 25 15:12:18 <mrdata> thesing: no problem, but i think this work could also help in other situations
Apr 25 15:12:47 <thesing> right. sa1100 has many platform devices.
Apr 25 15:13:11 <thesing> how did you modify sa100_generic.c?
Apr 25 15:15:07 <mrdata> thesing: i have not do any changes there, only in platform.c i make a test if pointers are exist and witch values she have 
Apr 25 15:16:47 <thesing> mrdata: http://www.pastebin.ca/457688
Apr 25 15:17:08 <thesing> this is what I did.
Apr 25 15:20:28 <mrdata> thesing: i had not the knowledge for quick change the struct of the driver sorry, but i will try this and say thanks for your work, realy
Apr 25 15:22:26 <mrdata> thesing: i have also 2 questions, 1. is syslogd from busybox working for you (with ipc in kernel enabled)?
Apr 25 15:23:15 <thesing> Yes it works fine.
Apr 25 15:23:26 <mrdata> thesing: 2. does your touchscreen works after suspend/resume (driver ucb1x00-ts.c)?
Apr 25 15:23:33 <likewise> zecke: Although you could *still* be right, I was bitten by #2035, which built after I did "sudo ln -snf /bin/sh bash; bitbake -c clean perl-native; bitbake perl-native"
Apr 25 15:24:03 <thesing> I don't know. I'll test.
Apr 25 15:25:07 <zecke> likewise: haeh?
Apr 25 15:25:15 <zecke> likewise: I'm right
Apr 25 15:25:15 <mrdata> thesing: could you send me your .config file, because i get a kernel ops, after i start syslogd, i think a option is missing for me
Apr 25 15:25:22 <hvontres|poodle> thesing: what kernel version are you running on your build system? I am having problems with $UNAME_RELEASE being configured from my host system and not for the target
Apr 25 15:25:23 <zecke> !2035
Apr 25 15:25:32 <thesing> BTW: there ist an online book about linux device drivers http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ chapter 14 is about device structures.
Apr 25 15:25:58 <hvontres|poodle> !oebug 2035
Apr 25 15:26:00 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2035, Status: REOPENED, Created: 2007-03-23 06:04
Apr 25 15:26:01 <cdbot2> * * freyther(AT)inf.fu-berlin.de: perl-native is broken on feisty
Apr 25 15:26:02 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2035
Apr 25 15:26:21 <likewise> zecke: in my opinion, yes it's an upstream bug, because it should build with dash as well :-)
Apr 25 15:26:41 <thesing> mrdata: I use 2.6.18 (debian testing) with reiser4 patch.
Apr 25 15:26:46 <zecke> likewise: right and we fix a lot of upstream bugs :)
Apr 25 15:27:21 <hvontres|poodle> thesing: hmmm, thanks...
Apr 25 15:27:37 <likewise> zecke: otherwise they should have specifically used #!/bin/bash in their build
Apr 25 15:27:40 <mrdata> thesing: i have download this book, but do kernel stuff for 4 weeks now and my usefull time is verry limited
Apr 25 15:28:04 <mrdata> likewise: i mean your .config for collie-kernel 2.6.20
Apr 25 15:28:05 * likewise only drinks upstream beer
Apr 25 15:28:54 <thesing> I started 2 or 3 months ago with kernel hacking ;)
Apr 25 15:28:58 <mrdata> likewise: i will compare this two, to find relevant differences
Apr 25 15:29:07 <zecke> likewise: right
Apr 25 15:29:27 <thesing> its the same as collie defconfig in OE with suspend added.
Apr 25 15:29:39 <likewise> mrdata: why are you talking to me? I don't have a collie, I don't even know what it is? thesing probably does :-)
Apr 25 15:29:59 <mrdata> likewise: sorry, sorry ...
Apr 25 15:30:10 <likewise> mrdata: just kidding, np
Apr 25 15:30:19 <likewise> CosmicPenguin: hi
Apr 25 15:30:32 <mrdata> likewise: after 8 hours work, so ...
Apr 25 15:30:57 <Laibsch> what do you guys think of opensourcexperts.com as a bounty system?
Apr 25 15:31:06 <Laibsch> I just stumbled across it.
Apr 25 15:31:18 <Laibsch> http://www.opensourcexperts.com
Apr 25 15:31:19 <thesing> mrdata: http://www.pastebin.ca/457764
Apr 25 15:32:21 <mrdata> thesing: my first kernel stuff was extending mmc/sd-driver-module (kernel 2.4.27) for simpad -> software-spi-bitbang ;-)
Apr 25 15:33:03 <mrdata> thesing: so i watch your work for collie and wish to use this also for simpad ;-)
Apr 25 15:34:40 <thesing> mrdata: that should be no problem. the mmc_spi.patch from LKML I used, should work with spi_bitbang. But I don't know, if my patched version still does.
Apr 25 15:34:50 <mrdata> thesing: thanks, i have also done a compare against the default .config from oe yesterday, so i hope i could find the solution
Apr 25 15:35:32 <thesing> mrdata: what are the exact problems with busybox?
Apr 25 15:36:16 <mrdata> thesing: while start syslogd my kernel gives an error
Apr 25 15:38:41 <thesing> mrdata: the touchscreen works fine after resume.
Apr 25 15:39:44 <mrdata> thesing: damm, you use the patches from your directory (where spi-stuff is)
Apr 25 15:40:13 <thesing> mrdata: right.
Apr 25 15:42:49 <mrdata> thesing: http://www.pastebin.ca/457791
Apr 25 15:43:52 <mrdata> thesing: okay, yesterday i used also the patch from you (for touchscreen) but could not tested yet
Apr 25 15:45:39 <xuumbi> any chance OE will have a presence at ET2007?
Apr 25 15:46:01 <thesing> mrdata: thats not my patch grabbed it from do13's website. I don't know who the author is. Maybe Pavel Machek.
Apr 25 15:46:46 <hrw> xuumbi: what is ET2007?
Apr 25 15:47:00 <xuumbi> http://www.embeddedtech.net/ET/
Apr 25 15:47:03 <hrw> thesing: or do13 (Dirk Opfer)
Apr 25 15:47:07 <xuumbi> just read about it on linuxdevices
Apr 25 15:47:30 <mrdata> thesing: is no problem, i will try it, one difference i see is, you build the ucb1x00-ts as module
Apr 25 15:47:53 <hrw> xuumbi: no idea
Apr 25 15:48:40 <xuumbi> hrw: ah, just curious
Apr 25 15:49:11 <xuumbi> so the only chance to see anyting OE related at a conference/expo would be in Europe?
Apr 25 15:49:14 <Crofton__> I can't make it
Apr 25 15:49:29 <Crofton__> or North America
Apr 25 15:49:55 <thesing> mrdata: no I have it build in. OE does build it as a module because the kernel would be to big to be flashed otherwise.
Apr 25 15:49:58 <Crofton__> xuumbi, it depends on where OE people are, and how to fund appearances
Apr 25 15:50:11 <hrw> xuumbi: we had Koen at ELC, someone will probably attend OLS. few persons will be at GUADEC - but those are conferences rather then trades
Apr 25 15:50:15 <thesing> mrdata: I will check if I posted the right config.
Apr 25 15:50:33 <xuumbi> hrw: oh cool, that's encouraging
Apr 25 15:50:56 <likewise> Crofton: Hello
Apr 25 15:51:27 <Crofton> gm
Apr 25 15:52:28 <thesing> mrdata: http://www.pastebin.ca/457804
Apr 25 15:52:30 <thesing> mrdata: this is the real one
Apr 25 15:57:02 <mrdata> thesing: thanks again, i will do a compare with mine and hope to find the key ;-)
Apr 25 15:58:40 <thesing> mrdata: does console blanking work on simpad? If I don't type anything for some time the screen goes off and all consoles freeze. The only way to get out of this is a reboot.
Apr 25 16:00:16 <mrdata> thesing: you use no gpe or opie?
Apr 25 16:01:48 <likewise> does anyone have blueprobe-0.18.tar.gz in their downloads/ ? I cannot find a (working) source for it.
Apr 25 16:02:17 <thesing> mrdata: I use bootstrap-image. I could not build any other image yet.
Apr 25 16:04:39 <hrw> likewise: I have
Apr 25 16:04:54 <likewise> hrw: could you make it available for me somehow?
Apr 25 16:05:16 <hrw> likewise: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/blueprobe-0.18.tar.gz should work
Apr 25 16:06:25 <likewise> hrw: thanks!
Apr 25 16:06:42 <hrw> np
Apr 25 16:09:13 <thesing> hrw: with suspend nearly ready for collie, what's more important usb client or sound?
Apr 25 16:09:44 <hvontres|poodle> RP: ping
Apr 25 16:11:09 <hrw> RP is busy this week with OH projects
Apr 25 16:11:29 <hrw> thesing: I think that sound rather
Apr 25 16:12:20 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: ok. 
Apr 25 16:12:36 <thesing> hrw: Ok. Then I will learn how alsa works ;)
Apr 25 16:13:22 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: do you have any idea how $UNAME_RELEASE gets set when building a 2.6.20 kernel? I think I am seeing some module related bugs because it gets set to the output of uname -r on my build machine
Apr 25 16:13:43 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: checked classes/kernel* ?
Apr 25 16:15:04 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: nothing....
Apr 25 16:18:37 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: linux-kernel-base.bbclass
Apr 25 16:31:24 <thesing> mrdata: do you use kexec?
Apr 25 16:37:45 <mrdata> thesing: no, i start zimage with bootloader console from cf-card
Apr 25 16:39:06 <thesing> mrdata: I forgot that the simpad bootloader is better than the sharp one... 
Apr 25 16:39:31 <mrdata> thesing: on simpad is ohh-bootloader witch then can start the zimage-file from extra-jffs2-kernel-partition or jffs2-root partiotion
Apr 25 16:41:01 <mrdata> thesing: i'am verry happy about the proper work of the former opensimpad guys ;-)
Apr 25 16:41:52 <mrdata> thesing: but also a alternativ bootloader is in progress now (redboot) and could later be used
Apr 25 16:43:22 <thesing> I thing one could port uboot to zaurus, but I don't think that its worth the time.
Apr 25 16:43:22 <mrdata> thesing: or the world will see the angstrom-bootloader ;-)
Apr 25 16:44:16 <XorA> thesing: its already done
Apr 25 16:45:28 <thesing> XorA: Do you mean the pdaXrom stuff? They don't support collie AFAIK.
Apr 25 16:46:01 <XorA> thesing: ah didnt realise you meant collie
Apr 25 16:46:51 <thesing> XorA: BTW do you know which zauruses are supported by uboot?
Apr 25 16:47:54 <XorA> thesing: I had thought all the clamshells but I could be mistaken as I never been brave enough to change the bootloader
Apr 25 16:48:26 <hrw> thesing: all clamshells
Apr 25 16:48:30 <hrw> thesing: probably also tosa
Apr 25 16:48:53 <thesing> hrw: is there any reasy that we don't use it?
Apr 25 16:49:04 <hrw> thesing: users
Apr 25 16:50:08 <XorA> does it gain you anything without a serial cable?
Apr 25 16:50:38 <thesing> hrw: what are the benefits of uboot anyway?
Apr 25 16:50:50 <hvontres|poodle> XorA: other than not having to work around the bugs in the Sharp BL ?
Apr 25 16:50:58 <hrw> thesing: any split for flash available
Apr 25 16:51:11 <hrw> thesing: kernel can be in rootfs or /boot partition
Apr 25 16:52:41 <hrw> boot from SD without problem
Apr 25 16:52:48 <hrw> boot from cF also possible
Apr 25 16:53:20 <hrw> updating flash rootfs/kernel from working system
Apr 25 16:53:36 <thesing> hrw: so whats the problem with the users?
Apr 25 16:53:52 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: we do not workaround bugs in sharp bootloader - we just use it and hardcode cmdline/machine detection
Apr 25 16:54:26 <hrw> thesing: many users shoot in foot with pdaX when they switched to uboot. non-bootable devices which need reflashing nand backup
Apr 25 16:54:54 <hrw> thesing: but that was pdaX u-boot - only-selected-developers-friendly version
Apr 25 16:55:54 <thesing> hrw: what means?
Apr 25 16:57:39 <hrw> thesing: uboot accesible only via serial cable
Apr 25 16:58:28 <thesing> hrw: so if someone would fix this, would we use it then?
Apr 25 16:58:58 <XorA> thesing: if someone can make it work like openmoko one with dfu upgrades
Apr 25 16:58:59 <hrw> thats an option but rather for next angstrom release then first one
Apr 25 16:59:09 <hrw> XorA: and usb console
Apr 25 17:00:09 <thesing> I agree. Maybe if collie is fully working...
Apr 25 17:10:03 <hrw> thesing: collie does not have second stage bootloader
Apr 25 17:11:46 <thesing> hrw: can't uboot be used as a first stage bootloader? Ok devellopment would require locating JTAG on collie. 
Apr 25 17:12:21 <thesing> hrw: but it's maybe better to hack kexec to accept command lines and use altboot.
Apr 25 17:13:44 <hrw> thesing: sharpBL can boot uboot which will boot kernel
Apr 25 17:14:47 <thesing> hrw: in theory or did somebody try?
Apr 25 17:15:34 <hrw> theory
Apr 25 17:15:54 <hrw> first someone would need to configure uboot for collie
Apr 25 17:16:26 <hrw> LAB from hh.org would be an option but it is too much integrated into hh.org to reuse it rather
Apr 25 17:18:13 <thesing> I'm tempted to try uboot. But fist I will finish the suspend stuff.
Apr 25 17:23:17 <Jin^eLD> I was in amsterdam once, but only for 2-3 days or so
Apr 25 17:23:19 <Jin^eLD> oops wrong window
Apr 25 17:23:19 <Jin^eLD> :)
Apr 25 17:39:32 <Crofton> koen|gprs, ping?
Apr 25 17:40:05 <hrw> u-boot contain usbdcore from Lineo..
Apr 25 17:53:31 <koen|gprs> Crofton: pong in ~1 hour
Apr 25 17:53:42 <Crofton> heh
Apr 25 17:54:00 <Crofton> not good round trip time
Apr 25 17:54:02 * koen gets back into the car and heads home
Apr 25 17:54:11 <Crofton> bother I have a meeting then
Apr 25 17:54:48 <JustinP> oe.org down?
Apr 25 17:55:24 <Crofton> JustinP, I fixed the gconf-dbus_svn.bb problem
Apr 25 17:55:32 <Crofton> and es, it looks down
Apr 25 17:56:22 <JustinP> so I can't pull. ;-) np, it built after I ran it again...I guess something else picked it up
Apr 25 17:56:33 <JustinP> sucks that bitbake 1.8 is broken....
Apr 25 17:56:48 <Crofton> yes it does
Apr 25 17:57:23 <Crofton> the fix involved adding a dependency so configure could find a macro that must have been added after the sane scrdate
Apr 25 17:57:27 <JustinP> I tried to look at it but I have far too little bb experience to find it
Apr 25 17:57:40 <JustinP> yeah, understood that part ;-)
Apr 25 17:57:45 <Crofton> someone else found the fix, I just pushed it ;0
Apr 25 17:59:20 <likewise> JustinP, Crofton: what do you need to pull? I think I pulled bitbake and OE just before things went down
Apr 25 17:59:37 <JustinP> don't we have any mtn mirrors any more?
Apr 25 17:59:48 <JustinP> I don't *need* to pull....just wanted to be up to date ;-)
Apr 25 17:59:56 <Crofton> gconf-dbus needs to depend on intl....
Apr 25 18:00:08 <likewise> JustinP: ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl
Apr 25 18:00:18 <zecke> JustinP: sure we do
Apr 25 18:00:25 <Crofton> JustinP, because none of us have setup mtn to serve?
Apr 25 18:00:25 <zecke> JustinP: use the wolfson mirror?
Apr 25 18:00:28 <zecke> JustinP: or nslu2
Apr 25 18:00:30 <chouimat> hi zecke
Apr 25 18:00:55 <JustinP> zecke: I don't know the domain names. And since the website is down....
Apr 25 18:01:20 <likewise> JustinP: Is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl down?
Apr 25 18:01:44 <JustinP> likewise: sorry, missed your message in the torrent
Apr 25 18:02:03 <zecke> JustinP: monotone.nslu2-linux.org?
Apr 25 18:02:03 <JustinP> likewise: thanks
Apr 25 18:04:21 <likewise> JustinP: welcome
Apr 25 18:04:38 <hrw> cu
Apr 25 18:04:53 <XorA> zecke: also opensource.wolfsonmicro.com
Apr 25 18:04:59 <hrw> koen|away: libopensync SVN in poky is buildable
Apr 25 18:05:44 <hrw> cu all
Apr 25 18:13:00 <cbrake> is it OK to push OE dev changes to monotone.nslu2-linux.org?  Will they eventually get sync'd to other repos?
Apr 25 18:13:49 <zecke> cbrake: I at least pushed once, I did not get punished for it (yet)
Apr 25 18:15:47 <cbrake> did a pull from monotone.nslu2-linux.org and it brought down 238 changes -- hmm ...
Apr 25 18:16:11 <JustinP> cbrake: should be fine
Apr 25 18:16:20 <cbrake> JustinP: ok, thanks
Apr 25 18:32:47 <likewise> do we have a qemu-x86 .config for the (guest) kernel in OE?
Apr 25 18:33:08 <likewise> i.e. a kernel .config that matches the qemu x86 emulated hardware?
Apr 25 18:46:28 <hvontres|poodle> Anybody here have any experience with $UNAME_RELEASE and kernels? it keeps picking up my build machine and I think it is screwing up packaging the modules
Apr 25 18:48:08 <florian> linuxtogo.org is back... but the monotone server does not start automatically.
Apr 25 18:48:54 <zecke> do you know the reason for the downtime?
Apr 25 18:50:24 <sirfred> Good evening
Apr 25 18:54:42 <florian> zecke: a broken postinst script - one of the tex packages spawned processes in an endless loop.
Apr 25 18:55:21 <florian> zecke: the machine survived this but we lost access because at some point memory was exhausted.
Apr 25 18:57:08 <florian> i finally decided to restart it... after 412 days uptime. after that the broken providers dhcp caused a complete network failure... that stupid thingy told the server an invalid netmask and gateway.
Apr 25 18:58:53 * florian -> home, bbiab
Apr 25 19:00:36 <chouimat> wow
Apr 25 19:15:18 <hvontres|poodle> has anybody seen anything like this while building kernels:WARNING: Couldn't open directory /home/henry/oe/dev/tmp/work/poodle-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-rp-2.6.20-r14/image/lib/modules/2.6.20-1.2944.fc6: No such file or directory
Apr 25 19:17:27 <JustinP> how'd you manage to get "fc6" in there?
Apr 25 19:18:00 <hvontres|poodle> JustinP: that is the output from uname -r on my build machine.... how it got there is a mystery to me.
Apr 25 19:18:27 <JustinP> I have no idea myself
Apr 25 19:19:53 <zecke> no idea
Apr 25 19:21:04 <JustinP> rebuild perhaps?
Apr 25 19:21:11 <sirfred> Any idea about but 2133 ?
Apr 25 19:21:27 <sirfred> s/but/bug
Apr 25 19:22:03 <hvontres|poodle> JustinP: already tried that. I am trying to figure out why the sound modules won't load for poodle on 2.6.20 EABI and I stumbled across this little gem...
Apr 25 19:30:08 <JustinP> hvontres|poodle: good luck
Apr 25 19:30:12 <JustinP> !oebug 2133
Apr 25 19:30:14 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2133, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-04-23 01:53
Apr 25 19:30:14 <cdbot2> * * koen(AT)dominion.kabel.utwente.nl: bitbake 1.8 r816 breaks SRC_DATE
Apr 25 19:30:15 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2133
Apr 25 19:30:23 <zecke> yipee twenty new servers arrived
Apr 25 19:30:40 <JustinP> sirfred: yeah, it's a PITA. I'm using 1.6 again for now
Apr 25 19:35:20 <koen> Crofton: pong
Apr 25 19:35:46 <Crofton> hey
Apr 25 19:36:36 <Crofton> I need to work out how to upload a new set of Angstrom for OSK
Apr 25 19:37:18 * koen wonders why people from india are too stupid to figure out the correct mailinglist
Apr 25 19:37:36 <chouimat> koen tsk tsk :)
Apr 25 19:38:28 <koen> Crofton: rsync . angstrom@linuxtogo.org:~/website/unstable/images/omap5912osk/<date>/ -az
Apr 25 19:38:53 <koen> chouimat: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-issues/2007-April/002319.html
Apr 25 19:38:57 <Crofton> you need some key?
Apr 25 19:39:07 <koen> chouimat: he sent an identical email a while ago
Apr 25 19:39:37 <koen> hngr
Apr 25 19:39:43 <koen> oe.org got rebooted
Apr 25 19:40:21 <chouimat> koen sound familiar ... I did the same thing in Quebec City ... you know let send the resume to everybody and see if I get a job ... didn't worked at all :)
Apr 25 19:42:01 <florian> re
Apr 25 19:43:00 <koen> Crofton: didn't I already add your key?
Apr 25 19:43:31 <Crofton> no
Apr 25 19:43:40 <Crofton> it was one of things we would get to lately
Apr 25 19:43:45 <koen> ah, right
Apr 25 19:43:51 <Crofton> then things went wacky here
Apr 25 19:44:06 <Crofton> what key do you need?
Apr 25 19:44:17 <Crofton> pub key from ssh?
Apr 25 19:44:46 <koen> yes
Apr 25 19:46:10 <hrw> re
Apr 25 19:47:07 <koen> hrw: wb
Apr 25 19:48:45 <Crofton> koen, I need to read on rsync
Apr 25 19:55:04 <Crofton__> hmm, the ml-403 board is the Xilinx FPGA board?
Apr 25 20:00:03 <hrw> koen: nokia-770 kernel got gcc4 fix in Poky
Apr 25 20:00:11 <koen> hrw: ok, thanks
Apr 25 20:00:21 <koen> hrw: but I need my 770 for maemo-mapper
Apr 25 20:00:26 <koen> the n800 is my test toy
Apr 25 20:00:43 <hrw> koen: 770 works better with maemo mapper then n800?
Apr 25 20:00:48 <koen> yes
Apr 25 20:01:02 <koen> it2007 makes it crash as soon as the gps dissappears
Apr 25 20:01:07 <koen> (e.g. bluetooth hickup)
Apr 25 20:01:14 <hrw> good to know
Apr 25 20:01:22 <hrw> my 770 runs os2007
Apr 25 20:01:30 <hrw> and I do not want to back to 2006
Apr 25 20:01:32 <hrw> ;D
Apr 25 20:02:39 <koen> hrw: I also unbroke telepathy-gabble in OE
Apr 25 20:03:22 <hrw> koen: I saw that - forgot to copy file from Poky 
Apr 25 20:03:53 <koen> I regenerated it
Apr 25 20:03:55 <hrw> koen: gabble-manager from 0.5.10 (generated on zaurus/poky) does not differ then 0.5.7 one (from oe)
Apr 25 20:04:11 <koen> MACHINE=guinness :)
Apr 25 20:04:30 <koen> it parses a c file for some values
Apr 25 20:04:42 <koen> so it's always the same
Apr 25 20:04:45 <hrw> I powered off progear so now no angstrom powered devices in use here
Apr 25 20:04:55 <koen> robot101 said they would make it part of 'make dist'
Apr 25 20:11:39 <hrw> cu
Apr 25 20:12:40 <CIA-11> 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r567e7a6c... 10/ (1 packages/linux/compulab-pxa270_2.6.16.bb): compulab-pxa270 2.6.16: update md5 sum on file downloaded from compulab
Apr 25 20:15:16 <likewise> koen: Did you test guinness/angstrom inside qemu or kvm once?
Apr 25 20:15:42 <koen> no, I booted it on my guinness board :)
Apr 25 20:16:54 <sirfred> Hmm, I was looking a little into bitbake code, and I suspect that it's caching the SRCDATE in some way
Apr 25 20:17:39 <Crofton> koen, you need id_rsa.pub and I need id_rsa in.ssh in the machine I build osk stuff on right?
Apr 25 20:17:55 <koen> sirfred: yes, but only for ${PN}, not for all entries in PACKAGES
Apr 25 20:18:04 <sirfred> For osb-jscore_svn.bb, it gets 0.5.2+svn20070423, and we are asking for 20070425
Apr 25 20:18:19 <koen> Crofton: yes, but preferably id_dsa.pub
Apr 25 20:18:33 <sirfred> So, presumably, cleaning the cache could be a workaround
Apr 25 20:18:58 <Crofton__> ok
Apr 25 20:22:37 <likewise> koen: angstrom-console-image does not give me a console in kvm :-)  init=/bin/sh on the kernel command line works, debugging.
Apr 25 20:22:57 <likewise> Anyone know if kvm presents the same processor as the host, or is it a Pentium II?
Apr 25 20:30:21 <thesing> mrdata: did you already try the pcmcia patch?
Apr 25 20:30:38 * koen tries to figure out why xtscal broke
Apr 25 20:30:48 <mrdata> thesing: for now, i must say no
Apr 25 20:31:07 <mrdata> thesing: i try the touchscreen first
Apr 25 20:31:44 <florian> koen: we have quite some fixes for it which are not yet upstream, right?
Apr 25 20:31:44 <thesing> did you make any progress there?
Apr 25 20:31:56 <mrdata> thesing: in this week i found a page while googling about x and y coordinates for ucb for different devices
Apr 25 20:32:05 <koen> florian: yes, and it looks like your htcuniversal patch broke things
Apr 25 20:32:27 <koen> +-    echo `grep "^Hardware" /proc/cpuinfo | sed -e "s/.*: *//" | tr a-z A-Z`
Apr 25 20:32:27 <koen> ++        awk 'BEGIN { FS=": " } /Hardware/ { print $2 } ' </proc/cpuinfo
Apr 25 20:32:30 <florian> koen: oh nasty... any idea what exactly?
Apr 25 20:32:31 <koen> not the stray space
Apr 25 20:32:36 <koen> note*
Apr 25 20:32:46 <mrdata> thesing: yes and no, ts do response after resume, but i get endless response after one touch
Apr 25 20:33:25 <mrdata> thesing: one touch get one input-dev event but gpe do auto-repeat alone
Apr 25 20:33:33 <florian> koen: i wonder if we want to have it at ltg since hh.org is not accessible for us anymore.
Apr 25 20:34:08 * koen officially wont apply any htc universal patches anymore
Apr 25 20:34:26 <mrdata> thesing: so not all changes in ucb1x00-ts.c are good for me (simpad)
Apr 25 20:34:35 <florian> koen: independent from that bad patch
Apr 25 20:34:37 <thesing> mrdata: what does ts_print say?
Apr 25 20:34:58 <koen> florian: why did you change the grep to awk?
Apr 25 20:35:26 <mrdata> thesing: 
Apr 25 20:35:30 <mrdata> root@simpad:/etc$ ts_print
Apr 25 20:35:34 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 0, Value: 604
Apr 25 20:35:38 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 1, Value: 438
Apr 25 20:35:42 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 24, Value: 504
Apr 25 20:35:43 <florian> koen: i have a patch to make the position markers look nicer e.g. 
Apr 25 20:35:46 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
Apr 25 20:35:50 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 0, Value: 609
Apr 25 20:35:54 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 1, Value: 432
Apr 25 20:35:58 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 24, Value: 508
Apr 25 20:35:58 <koen> florian: the one that is in poky svn?
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> -55353426evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> 3.160858:    498    352    504
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 3, Code: 24, Value: 0
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> -55353426evbug.c: Event. Dev: <NULL>, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> 3.210955:    501    355    506
Apr 25 20:36:02 <mrdata> -553534263.250248:    503    357      0
Apr 25 20:36:11 <koen> mrdata: use pastebin instead of flooding this channel
Apr 25 20:36:33 <mrdata> koen: sorry, i will try this next, sure
Apr 25 20:36:49 <florian> koen: we have this patch somewhere for ages and i can remeber i tested it several times before applying. i wonder how that went wrong.
Apr 25 20:37:10 <florian> koen: unlikely... some leftover from the nbp project :-)
Apr 25 20:37:21 <koen> florian: since a few days all the zaurus machines miscalibrate
Apr 25 20:37:30 <koen> florian: the machines in the line you updated
Apr 25 20:38:14 <florian> koen: heh ok, i didn't have one to test :-)
Apr 25 20:40:17 <sirfred> pv       = self.getVar('PV', file_name, True)
Apr 25 20:40:30 <sirfred> Isn't that 'True' instructing getVar to expand the variable value ?
Apr 25 20:41:04 <CIA-11> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r07740531... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): xtscal: attempt to fix miscalibrations
Apr 25 20:41:18 <sirfred> Perhaps that's the problem, as cacheData.pkg_pvpr is populated with that value.
Apr 25 20:41:23 * koen hopes that fixes xtscal
Apr 25 20:42:42 <thesing> mrdata: AFAIK  the first column that ts_print prints ist time. This doen't look normal. Do you get similar values before suspend?
Apr 25 20:43:19 <mrdata> thesing: i will do reboot
Apr 25 20:43:35 <thesing> mrdata: maybe thats just the input debug messages.
Apr 25 20:48:32 <mrdata> thesing: you have right, my time was for 1952, after change to 2007 i get for example 1177541228.832827
Apr 25 20:48:40 <Crofton__> koen, what address should I send the key to?
Apr 25 20:48:55 <koen> koen@openembedded.org should work
Apr 25 20:48:56 <mrdata> thesing: so time should be in sec i think
Apr 25 20:49:51 <mrdata> and unix time begin in 1972 or so, and therefor 1952 are negativ one
Apr 25 20:50:08 <thesing> mrdata: but this time doesn't change after suspend?
Apr 25 20:50:21 <sirfred> Curious, while generating the cache, for packages with fixed version, the not expanded pv is:
Apr 25 20:50:27 <mrdata> thesing: wait, will do suspend and resume
Apr 25 20:50:32 <sirfred> ${@bb.parse.BBHandler.vars_from_file(bb.data.getVar('FILE',d),d)[1] or '1.0'}
Apr 25 20:50:53 <sirfred> But for svn/cvs PVs, is just: 0.0+cvs${SRCDATE}
Apr 25 20:51:01 <thesing> mrdata: if ts_print prints sane values, your touchscreen is working fine.
Apr 25 20:51:49 <mrdata> thesing: yes, but with gpe i get autorepeat keypress now
Apr 25 20:52:05 <thesing> mrdata: I'm building a gpe-image right now. Maybe I have the same problem on gpe.
Apr 25 20:52:09 <mrdata> thesing: and after resume no response from ts
Apr 25 20:52:20 <koen> florian: http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-April/001993.html
Apr 25 20:52:37 <Crofton__> koen, I copied it into an email
Apr 25 20:52:47 <koen> florian: if the zaurus still break, we'll have to revert your latest patch and have the universal people fix it properly
Apr 25 20:52:55 <Crofton__> if that is a nuisance, let me know and I can work out a proper attachemnt later
Apr 25 20:53:30 <mrdata> thesing: but after rmmod / modprobe ucb1x00-ts touchscreen works again ,-(
Apr 25 20:53:35 <florian> koen: right 
Apr 25 20:53:46 <florian> koen: i can verify this for the universal later
Apr 25 20:53:56 <koen> Crofton: key added
Apr 25 20:53:57 <florian> one i'm finished with all ltg issues
Apr 25 20:54:03 <florian> eh once
Apr 25 20:54:11 <Crofton> ok
Apr 25 20:54:35 <Crofton> I'll need to talk to you about how these work, but I need to run now
Apr 25 20:54:41 <Crofton> thanks
Apr 25 20:59:48 <thesing> mrdata: At least you can work around the problem...
Apr 25 21:00:10 <mrdata> thesing: i will try this 
Apr 25 21:02:35 <mrdata> thesing: i must correct me, with the patched ucb1x00-ts i get response from ts after suspend/resume
Apr 25 21:03:03 <mrdata> thesing: but the autorepeat problem is new now
Apr 25 21:04:37 <mrdata> thesing: i have two situations 1. working input (no one after suspend/resume) 2. autorepeat input (also one after suspend/resume)
Apr 25 21:06:28 <mrdata> thesing: now i must put this together, mixing, extract the wrong part, its not many code witch was changed
Apr 25 21:08:04 <thesing> mrdata: we should get a version, that works for collie and simpad.
Apr 25 21:09:16 <mrdata> thesing: thats where fine, and i have no problem with it, i will no work for me alone
Apr 25 21:11:13 * koen curses some more at embedded linux
Apr 25 21:12:33 <mrdata> thesing: after quick look i see new input_report_key -> BTN_TOUCH ->1 in ts_event_add
Apr 25 21:13:31 <mrdata> thesing: and input_report_key -> BTN_TOUCH -> 0 in ts_event_release
Apr 25 21:13:52 <woglinde> oh no monta vista comes to europe
Apr 25 21:14:05 <koen> woglinde: restrain zecke
Apr 25 21:14:21 <mrdata> thesing: tomorrow i will uncomment this and see what will happen
Apr 25 21:14:27 <woglinde> he koen
Apr 25 21:14:31 <woglinde> are you back?
Apr 25 21:14:39 <koen> yes
Apr 25 21:14:43 <mrdata> woglinde: hi
Apr 25 21:14:48 <woglinde> hi mrdata
Apr 25 21:16:41 <woglinde> koen didnt you programm fpga's the last university term?
Apr 25 21:16:45 <mrdata> but for now, i need some sleep, so night all and bye (over the weekend i have more time)
Apr 25 21:17:02 <koen> woglinde: no, last time I did fpgas was 5 years ago
Apr 25 21:17:25 <woglinde> oh okay
Apr 25 21:17:34 <woglinde> nite mrdata
Apr 25 21:26:31 <likewise> what's supposed to be in the RPATH's of our on-target shared libraries? It shows host paths, which considerably slows down library loading on the target.
Apr 25 21:26:56 <koen> we had a masterplan to fix that in a deep dark past
Apr 25 21:27:30 <koen> (you could use prelink to work around that)
Apr 25 21:27:40 <likewise> koen: fix to what? strip them? I'm not sure if they are handy for host<-tcp->target debugging with gdb.
Apr 25 21:28:23 <likewise> I'll bring it up on the list, I'm curious on the details.
Apr 25 21:33:02 <sirfred> Good night
Apr 25 22:12:12 <DataBeaver> Any idea why I get this when trying to use my Zaurus SL-C3100 as USB storage: "pxa-2xx-udc: DMA Bus Error"?  I'm using OE-patched kernel 2.6.19.
Apr 25 22:20:54 <DataBeaver> It also spams two USB resets for each such message.  If I say use_dma=0 to the pxa27x_udc module, I no longer get DMA errors but still get USB resets and the host says "hub 2-3:1.0: Cannot enable port 2.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?" after lagging for a bit.
Apr 25 22:24:49 <JustinP> dunno....my USB HD has worked fine for me on my C3000
Apr 25 22:24:55 <JustinP> let's see what kernel I have installed....
Apr 25 22:25:29 <JustinP> 2.6.17
Apr 25 22:25:37 <JustinP> seeing as I'm still running OZ....
Apr 25 22:25:47 <JustinP> DataBeaver: did you use linux-rp?
Apr 25 22:26:10 <DataBeaver> Yeah
Apr 25 22:26:27 <DataBeaver> USB HD as in the Z as host?
Apr 25 22:26:41 <JustinP> yep
Apr 25 22:26:49 <JustinP> angstrom or OZ?
Apr 25 22:26:49 <DataBeaver> That works fine for me too
Apr 25 22:26:55 <JustinP> oh...
Apr 25 22:27:04 <DataBeaver> Problems arise when I try to use the Z as an USB gadget
Apr 25 22:27:05 <JustinP> you're trying to do Z as device
Apr 25 22:27:16 <DataBeaver> Indeed
Apr 25 22:27:17 <JustinP> yeah, I haven't had that working at all with the 2.6 kernels :-(
Apr 25 22:27:23 <DataBeaver> Would be handy sometimes
Apr 25 22:27:34 <JustinP> RP keeps saying that some of it works and he'll fix the rest but he never gets around to it
Apr 25 22:27:52 <JustinP> haven't used my Z as a device since I had Sharp ROM on it I think
Apr 25 22:28:12 <JustinP> I just use a CF WiFi card for direct connection and an SD/USB card for transferring files otherwise
Apr 25 22:28:23 <DataBeaver> Well, some of it obviously does work since the host computer sees a USB storage device as it should...  But any I/O attempt results in errors.
Apr 25 22:28:31 <woglinde> justinP why not usbnet?
Apr 25 22:28:55 <JustinP> because it just didn't work for me
Apr 25 22:29:04 <woglinde> hm?
Apr 25 22:29:05 <JustinP> until recently all I had was a Windows machine
Apr 25 22:29:12 <woglinde> oh
Apr 25 22:29:13 <woglinde> okay
Apr 25 22:29:15 <JustinP> and RNDIS has been broken always
Apr 25 22:29:19 <JustinP> although RP says he can fix it
Apr 25 22:29:33 <DataBeaver> I also use wlan mostly...  But today I was at a friend who doesn't have wlan so I had to transfer some large files using an external USB memory.
Apr 25 22:29:34 <JustinP> and when I tried it with my mac (OS X.3) it was extremely slow
Apr 25 22:29:38 <woglinde> yes if he has time :)
Apr 25 22:29:40 <JustinP> although that may be better
Apr 25 22:29:56 <DataBeaver> CF and SD memory cards do not tend to be supported by desktop machines.
Apr 25 22:30:12 <woglinde> databeaver why?
Apr 25 22:30:13 <JustinP> DataBeaver: you could also try usbnet....that I've had more success with than the memory gadget
Apr 25 22:30:22 <woglinde> many desktops has cf /sd card slots
Apr 25 22:30:32 <JustinP> many != all by any means
Apr 25 22:30:37 <JustinP> I still have never had one
Apr 25 22:30:38 <woglinde> and you can buy cheap cf readers for 6 euros as I did
Apr 25 22:30:43 <DataBeaver> Especially not several years old ones.
Apr 25 22:30:45 <JustinP> well, that is true
Apr 25 22:31:09 <DataBeaver> I do have a USB multicard reader...  Maybe I should start carrying it with me.
Apr 25 22:31:16 <JustinP> I highly recommend http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1239)-SDSDPH-1024-SanDisk_Ultra_II_SD_Plus_USB_1GB.aspx
Apr 25 22:31:17 <woglinde> hehe
Apr 25 22:31:23 <woglinde> they are small enough
Apr 25 22:31:25 <JustinP> so much more convenient than a reader
Apr 25 22:31:35 <JustinP> I have 2 ;-)
Apr 25 22:31:40 <DataBeaver> Although then I'd need to carry a card too, and it usually resides in my camera.
Apr 25 22:31:53 <DataBeaver> "it" = my only large enough CF card
Apr 25 22:31:55 <woglinde> the newest trend is to have it in usbstick format fort sd
Apr 25 22:32:11 <JustinP> ?
Apr 25 22:32:37 <woglinde> you put your sd card in a reader that looks like an usbstick
Apr 25 22:33:12 <JustinP> oh that yeah
Apr 25 22:33:16 <CoreDump|home> hi
Apr 25 22:33:22 <woglinde> and they are only for sd/mmc card so the formfactor is smaller than full support with cf
Apr 25 22:33:22 * JustinP still likes the SD with USB built-in
Apr 25 22:33:37 <DataBeaver> Also, since the general idea was to use the Z to transfer those files to my home computer, if I had a large enough USB/CF/SD card, I could have used that in the first place.
Apr 25 22:33:59 <woglinde> *g* bye one they are cheap too
Apr 25 22:34:00 <DataBeaver> Too bad I don't know enough of the USB protocol to fix the problem myself...
Apr 25 22:34:03 <woglinde> 1 gig for 10 euros
Apr 25 22:34:07 <DataBeaver> I probably should.
Apr 25 22:34:17 <woglinde> yeah usb protocol is nasty
Apr 25 22:34:24 <woglinde> I saw it for sa1100
Apr 25 22:34:45 <woglinde> where usbnet ist really working fine
Apr 25 22:34:49 <woglinde> isnt
Apr 25 22:36:22 <DataBeaver> I wonder if the USB gadget support might be fixed in 2.6.21...
Apr 25 22:36:33 <woglinde> I think no
Apr 25 22:36:47 <woglinde> they arent many people who used it and can fix it
Apr 25 22:37:51 <DataBeaver> hmh.
Apr 25 22:38:03 <woglinde> yeah
Apr 25 22:38:23 <woglinde> there is even no one who fix this for sa1100 architecture
Apr 25 22:39:06 <JustinP> g_ether seems to be working fine for me with a Mac OS X.4 machine
Apr 25 22:39:20 <JustinP> although usb0 didn't get its IP set from /etc/network/interfaces.....
Apr 25 22:39:38 <DataBeaver> I'd prefer some solution that works with random windows boxes without extra drivers...
Apr 25 22:39:56 <woglinde> hahah with vista?
Apr 25 22:40:03 <JustinP> even RNDIS wouldn't work that way
Apr 25 22:40:29 <DataBeaver> I don't consider Vista as the OS of "random windows boxes" yet
Apr 25 22:40:31 <JustinP> what I used to do is put the drivers on the HD and use g_file (equivalent) to transfer them, then switch to g_ether (equiv)
Apr 25 22:40:49 <JustinP> but that's nto really possible ATM
Apr 25 22:40:56 <DataBeaver> I could use g_ether at home, but what's the point as I can use wlan as well
Apr 25 22:41:01 <JustinP> would be great to have another real embedded kernel hacker in our ranks
Apr 25 22:41:14 <JustinP> (who wanted to work on the gadget support)
Apr 25 22:41:35 <DataBeaver> I'm not a kernel hacker, much less an embedded one...
Apr 25 22:42:34 * JustinP has a simple driver under his belt....but RP really did the important stuff
Apr 25 22:44:05 <DataBeaver> BTW, when copying files over wlan to the Z, I get loads of "eth0: information frame lost" messages.  What does that mean?  It doesn't seem to affect the data being transferred at least.
Apr 25 22:44:06 <florian> koen: latest xtscal works fine on the Universal
Apr 25 22:44:47 <woglinde> okay
Apr 25 22:44:49 <woglinde> nite to all
Apr 25 22:44:54 <DataBeaver> The card is D-Link DCF-650 or something, can't look up now as the card is inserted in the Z and in use...
Apr 25 22:44:58 <florian> woglinde: gn
Apr 25 22:45:48 <woglinde> florian you can do me a flavor if you can put a gpe-image-smale.bb which only builds the stuff to boot into gpe without build firefox gnumeric and stuff :)
Apr 25 22:45:56 <woglinde> +in oe
Apr 25 22:47:53 <florian> woglinde: good point... we need to move all the tasks into separate files
Apr 25 22:48:34 <florian> woglinde: because latest bitbake changed its behaviour and you need to make it build all dependencies for a task now.
Apr 25 22:49:10 <woglinde> okay
Apr 25 22:50:12 <florian> hrm... for some reasons i do not have usb modules in my universal image anymore
Apr 25 22:50:19 <florian> hi cworth 
Apr 25 22:50:32 <cworth> hi florian
Apr 25 22:53:36 <JustinP> Calling all Cxx0/CE-RH1 owners: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23847
Apr 25 22:54:09 * florian feels left out ;)
Apr 25 23:09:58 <CoreDump|home> +root@mhcln04:/var/log >ls -ahl /var/log/lircd 
Apr 25 23:09:59 <CoreDump|home> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2,0G 2007-04-22 21:54 /var/log/lircd
Apr 25 23:09:59 <CoreDump|home> +
Apr 25 23:10:13 <CoreDump|home> don't you just love good software
Apr 26 00:02:56 * JustinP arghs once again
Apr 26 00:08:30 <CIA-11> 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r1f260594... 10/ (1 packages/gizmod/gizmod_2.3.bb): gizmod: add alsa-lib to DEPENDS
Apr 26 01:03:52 <pierrelux> anyone could help me with that bb file I made ? Here's the output http://pastebin.ca/458713
Apr 26 01:36:54 <CoreDump|home> pierrelux: your app doesn't have an install target in its makefile by the looks of it. You'll have to write a do_install() for this .bb
Apr 26 01:51:49 <pierrelux> CoreDump|home: I've been trying the ./configure;make;make install using "normal" tools and it works... so install target does exist
Apr 26 01:52:04 <CoreDump|home> hmm now that's odd
Apr 26 01:57:08 <pierrelux> if I remove ${PR} from fann-${PV}-${PR} then it fails with "Can't locate Automake/Struct.pm in @INC"
Apr 26 02:00:45 <CIA-11> 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r6e9a597a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
Apr 26 02:00:45 <CIA-11> fbreader:
Apr 26 02:00:45 <CIA-11> - Fix do_install to honor READER_ARCH
Apr 26 02:00:45 <CIA-11> - Remove left-over help-file from previous version from 480x640-buildfix.patch
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