**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 27 02:59:56 2007
May 27 07:06:52 <keesj> Hello world
May 27 07:16:28 <steliosk> morning all
May 27 07:31:21 <steliosk> koen|away : FYI something i just noticed .The FEED_ARCH ?= "${TARGET_ARCH}" you declare in the angstrom config does not evaluate to the desired TARGET_ARCH but to the actual string  ${TARGET_ARCH}
May 27 07:32:36 <steliosk> koen|away : i had a machine i did not have a FEED_ARCH declared and noticed that
May 27 07:53:30 * Bernardo is back.
May 27 07:55:27 <Bernardo> good morning
May 27 09:48:18 <hrw> morning
May 27 09:49:01 <rwhitby> morning hrw
May 27 09:51:04 <hrw> I wonder when Intel will release pci express gfx card
May 27 09:58:02 <hrw> ati which I have here suxx too much
May 27 10:14:10 <mrdata> hi all
May 27 10:58:17 <hrw> bye
May 27 13:31:01 <RP> morning all
May 27 13:37:38 <summatusmentis> Hi RP
May 27 14:04:55 <chouimat> morning
May 27 14:34:05 <RP> hi chouimat 
May 27 14:38:33 <RP> steliosk: around?
May 27 14:42:54 <chouimat> hi RP
May 27 15:02:40 <steliosk> Ri hi
May 27 15:02:46 <steliosk> RP hi
May 27 15:08:19 <RP> steliosk: I replied to you bitbake bug, I couldn't see the problem :/
May 27 15:08:43 <mrdata> woglinde: hi
May 27 15:08:53 <woglinde> hi mrdata
May 27 15:09:08 <steliosk> RP :  likewise had a similar/same problem with uclibc 0.9.29
May 27 15:09:26 <steliosk> RP :  and solve it by adding the config
May 27 15:10:51 <RP> steliosk: Can you show me how to reproduce?
May 27 15:11:09 <mrdata> woglinde: how smaller are binary builds with uclibc for simpad?
May 27 15:11:48 <steliosk> RP :  try distro oplinux-uclibc machine magicbox. this is what i tried
May 27 15:12:04 <NAbyss> RP: I'm having a bit of a problem building glibc-2.5 w/ angstrom.. do you know who I should speak to? It's segfaulting when generating binary locales.. fails on x86_64, but builds fine on i386
May 27 15:12:10 <woglinde> mrdata sorry didnt try yet there are some problems with uclibc and perl
May 27 15:12:19 <RP> steliosk: See the result in bug 2378
May 27 15:12:27 <steliosk> RP :  or use a uclibc config which is out of sync i.e use 0.9.28 for 0.9.29
May 27 15:12:28 <woglinde> for the simpad
May 27 15:12:36 <RP> NAbyss: qemu segfaults?
May 27 15:12:44 <NAbyss> RP: Looks like it, yeah
May 27 15:12:44 <woglinde> hi rp
May 27 15:12:56 <RP> NAbyss: Known problem, qemu is broken on amd64 :-(
May 27 15:13:11 <NAbyss> RP: Ah, okies.. thanks :)
May 27 15:13:37 <NAbyss> As long as it's a known issue.. time to disable binary locale generation, I guess :)
May 27 15:13:39 <RP> NAbyss: Feel free to look into it and fix it! ;-)
May 27 15:13:42 <steliosk> RP :  hmm it got the right one...
May 27 15:13:53 <steliosk> RP :  strange
May 27 15:13:58 <mrdata> woglinde: thx, and http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2332 should attached a patch, but there is no one
May 27 15:14:12 <RP> steliosk: Yes, so I can't reproduce :/
May 27 15:14:16 <NAbyss> RP: Sure thing, I'll get right on to it ;)
May 27 15:14:27 <steliosk> RP :  wait a sec i'll try again now
May 27 15:16:28 <steliosk> RP :  what's your host ? 32bit or 64 ?
May 27 15:16:58 <RP> steliosk: 32 bit but it shouldn't make any difference to bitbake itself
May 27 15:17:12 <woglinde> mrdata oehm i forget it?
May 27 15:18:02 <mrdata> woglinde: yes ;-)
May 27 15:18:08 <woglinde> damn it
May 27 15:19:04 <steliosk> RP :  this is what i get -> http://rafb.net/p/TGByu441.html
May 27 15:20:49 <steliosk> RP :  hmm it works now...
May 27 15:21:17 <RP> steliosk: but you see uClibc.machine and uClibc.dsitro copied too
May 27 15:21:51 <steliosk> RP :  but it does not fail at config now
May 27 15:22:54 <RP> steliosk: You must have some local changes to add those two files..
May 27 15:23:15 <steliosk> RP :  what changes ? to bitbake ?
May 27 15:23:25 <RP> steliosk: To the uclibc .bb files
May 27 15:23:56 <hrw|gone> nick hrw
May 27 15:24:00 <hrw> morning
May 27 15:24:13 <steliosk> RP :  I have not "ported" the changes made for uclibc 0.9.29
May 27 15:24:36 <steliosk> RP :  but bitbake should work regardlles
May 27 15:25:16 <woglinde> hi hrw
May 27 15:25:22 <woglinde> mrdata patch is up
May 27 15:25:27 <RP> steliosk: It does appear to be working as far as I can see
May 27 15:25:56 <steliosk> RP :  i'll try a clean build and see if it gets stoped again. this is how it happened the first time. If i can not reproduce it again i'll close the bug
May 27 15:26:13 <RP> steliosk: ok. If it happens again, please provide the log
May 27 15:27:19 <steliosk> RP :  i kept no log the first time. but checked the config files copied to the work dir. the magicbox config was not copied
May 27 15:28:12 <steliosk> RP :  the i run bitbake with -DDDD switch and i saw it stopped at the config as the powerpc uclibc config it used was for 0.9.28 and 0.9.28-svn has changes
May 27 15:28:32 <steliosk> RP :  which made it stop and ask for user input
May 27 15:28:54 <RP> steliosk: I can't solve bugs I can't reproduce though :/
May 27 15:29:09 <steliosk> RP :  where are you magic powers :)
May 27 15:29:27 <RP> steliosk: ;-)
May 27 15:30:41 <steliosk> RP :  let's see how the clean build goes. I hope it was a fluke in my side and somehow got solved
May 27 15:34:04 <mrdata> woglinde: thx!
May 27 15:40:48 <hrw> RP: http://www.openembedded.org/~koen/fbcompositesrc8888revnpx0565.patch can be interesting for Poky. on nokia n800 is gives X speedup
May 27 15:41:11 <mr_nice> woglinde: hi
May 27 15:41:21 <woglinde> hi mr_nice
May 27 15:41:49 <mr_nice> woglinde: you have opie on your simpad with 2.6 or?
May 27 15:42:12 <woglinde> no
May 27 15:42:15 <woglinde> didnt work
May 27 15:42:34 <woglinde> because of shared memory bug somehow
May 27 15:42:48 <mr_nice> woglinde: ah, ok :(
May 27 15:45:36 <koen|away> hrw: for some reason the fbcompositesrc8888revnpx0565 isn't called when used with our kdrive, daniel and I are looking into it
May 27 15:45:55 <hrw> ah
May 27 15:47:18 <RP> hrw: It been suggested we should apply it by others too :)
May 27 15:47:26 <hrw> ;)
May 27 15:47:40 <hrw> RP: I preferred to remind before forget
May 27 15:47:52 <RP> hrw: I know the feeling
May 27 15:48:10 <RP> koen|away: Whats the status of angstrom and uclibc?
May 27 15:48:31 <koen|away> RP: works great
May 27 15:51:20 <RP> koen|away: Needs gcc 4.1.2 as 4.1.1 doesn't work?
May 27 15:52:09 <koen|away> RP: dunno
May 27 15:54:17 <zecke> console-image compiles, I still need to run it
May 27 15:54:55 <koen|away> zecke: what's the actual challenge?
May 27 15:55:15 <zecke> not going out of business ;)
May 27 15:55:44 <steliosk> RP :  happened again -> let's see how the clean build goes. I hope it was a fluke in my side and somehow got solved
May 27 15:55:49 <zecke> I still need to test the image, in qemu. qemu over remote X11 doesn't work too good and I can't compile qemu on OSX
May 27 15:55:59 <steliosk> RP :  happened again -> http://rafb.net/p/0V1Plh87.html
May 27 15:56:01 <zecke|study> and I'm not here as I study math...
May 27 15:56:11 <hrw> cu all
May 27 15:56:17 <koen|away> zecke|study: math is easy
May 27 15:56:31 <zecke|study> 2+2=5 for big numbers of two?
May 27 15:57:34 <steliosk> zecke|study : need travelling money :) My OE presentation got accepted in Power.org deb conference
May 27 15:57:46 <steliosk> s/deb/dev
May 27 15:58:46 <zecke|study> hehe
May 27 16:01:27 * chouimat is bored ... this task takes way too much time 
May 27 16:02:28 <steliosk> RP : http://rafb.net/p/LVPFvT78.html
May 27 16:03:58 <steliosk> RP : and this is uclibc-initial -> http://rafb.net/p/NxtDko50.html
May 27 16:04:15 <steliosk> RP : get's the powerpc config not magicbox config
May 27 16:07:21 <CIA-4> 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rc8ce8212... 10/ (1 packages/iana-etc packages/iana-etc/iana-etc_2.20.bb): iana-etc: add to OE. Closes bug 1750.
May 27 16:07:26 <CIA-4> 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r76a73b54... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ntp: unify. Add iana-etc to RRECOMMENDS.
May 27 16:07:30 <CIA-4> 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r13de3530... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 
May 27 16:07:30 <CIA-4> mISDN: initial "early and often"-release. Partly closes bug 240.
May 27 16:07:30 <CIA-4> * compilation runs through
May 27 16:07:30 <CIA-4> * no functionality tests on-device, yet
May 27 16:07:30 <CIA-4> * hfcs_usb_endianchecks.diff committed, but does not apply cleanly
May 27 16:07:31 <CIA-4>  Disabled in bb
May 27 16:07:36 <CIA-4> 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r19e8907f... 10/ (1 conf/bitbake.conf): bitbake.conf: Remove the dangerous suggestion to change SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR
May 27 16:07:42 <CIA-4> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r66eeab0b... 10/ (1 packages/llvm/llvm-native_2.0.bb): llvm-native: update to 2.0
May 27 16:14:46 <steliosk> zecke|study : should i add this to the wiki/events ?
May 27 16:19:37 <zecke|study> sure
May 27 16:30:53 <xjqian> hi all, I'm back from my trip in Berlin.
May 27 16:48:38 <AsLan^> howdy :)
May 27 16:49:41 <RP> steliosk: ok, so its uclibc-initial, not uclibc
May 27 16:54:36 <RP> steliosk: and again, I don't see that problem here :/
May 27 16:55:28 <keesj>  what is supposed to happe after the Freeing init memory: 88K
May 27 16:55:45 <keesj> that is the init process right?
May 27 16:55:49 <RP> keesj: It should mount the rootfs
May 27 16:55:54 <RP> keesj: No
May 27 16:56:13 <RP> keesj: It should mount the rootfs after that, then run init
May 27 16:56:24 <keesj> thanks 
May 27 16:57:01 <RP> steliosk: In that build, its uclibc-initial-0.9.28 so its not surprising its using the 0.9.28 files
May 27 16:58:58 <aa_> hi, at last I got my touchscreen working, now I need a decent window manager for this thing. Gnome is just no good
May 27 16:59:08 <aa_> gtk based, any suggestions?
May 27 16:59:18 <aa_> do you still use matchbox?
May 27 16:59:31 <zecke|study> people still use matchbox
May 27 16:59:53 <aa_> is that "some" people ?
May 27 17:00:45 <zecke|study> people needing a window manager, still use matchbox?
May 27 17:01:18 <aa_> oh, right
May 27 17:01:21 <Bernardo> of course, you could try to fix angstrom-e-image (evolution)
May 27 17:02:39 <CoreDump|home> that would be most welcome =)
May 27 17:03:46 <Bernardo> it looks cool, doesn't it? at least the desktop version
May 27 17:04:05 <Bernardo> right now my problem building it is imlib-x11 rpath issue
May 27 17:04:06 <CoreDump|home> indeed
May 27 17:04:24 <Bernardo> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2301
May 27 17:04:48 <aa_> well, no idea what angstrom is, so..
May 27 17:05:00 <Bernardo> when I try to start evolution on my akita it does complain of a missing libimlib2.so
May 27 17:05:16 <Bernardo> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
May 27 17:05:24 <zecke|study> Bernardo: evolution?
May 27 17:05:48 <Bernardo> oops
May 27 17:05:49 <steliosk> RP: But in 1.6 does not happen :(
May 27 17:06:03 <Bernardo> forget it (brain short-circut)
May 27 17:06:08 <CoreDump|home> e === enlightenment
May 27 17:06:11 <RP> steliosk: Which package fails with which error. I've yet to see a log which is wrong
May 27 17:06:13 <Bernardo> enlightnment
May 27 17:06:44 <steliosk> RP: it does not exactly fail. it gets stuck there in cofig
May 27 17:06:46 <Bernardo> thinking enlightnment and writing evolution... coffee needed, urgent!
May 27 17:06:52 <Bernardo> brb
May 27 17:06:57 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora.
May 27 17:08:02 <RP> steliosk: Maybe its building a different version to the version bitbake 1.6 builds?
May 27 17:08:20 <steliosk> RP: no its exactly the same
May 27 17:08:45 <RP> steliosk: uclibc-initial-0.9.28 ?
May 27 17:09:31 <steliosk> RP: i have installed both 1.6 and 1.8 in 2 seperate dirs and use a soft link to set bitbake to one or the other
May 27 17:09:46 <steliosk> RP: both build happen with the same config on the same machine
May 27 17:10:05 <steliosk> RP: only things that changes is bitbake
May 27 17:12:01 <steliosk> RP: all things equal it should had the same error in 1.6
May 27 17:12:41 <steliosk> RP: but it does not
May 27 17:13:38 <RP> steliosk: ok, both powerpc and magicbox are overrides for this package
May 27 17:14:44 <RP> steliosk: and OVERRIDES are the same for both versions of bitbake for this package
May 27 17:15:51 <steliosk> RP: just a stupid suggestion.... does the fact that there is no uclibc-initial dir containing the overides make any difference ?
May 27 17:16:14 <RP> steliosk: The places it looks is controlled by FILESPATH and FILESDIR
May 27 17:18:07 <RP> steliosk: Both bitbake 1.6 and 1.8 use the powerpc config file here
May 27 17:18:50 <steliosk> RP: but 1.8 does not get the machine specific one, gets the "default" one
May 27 17:19:22 <RP> steliosk: Both get the default one
May 27 17:19:57 <steliosk> RP: i'll do a clean build with 1.6 to see what it outputs also
May 27 17:20:24 <RP> steliosk: I suspect they build different versions
May 27 17:20:52 <steliosk> but how is that possible ?
May 27 17:21:35 <RP> steliosk: Different interpretations of things like PREFERRED_PROVIDER
May 27 17:21:46 <RP> amongst other things
May 27 17:22:00 <RP> I'm not saying it will build a different one, it just might
May 27 17:22:09 <steliosk> but only for uclibc-initial ?
May 27 17:22:18 <RP> could be
May 27 17:23:41 <Laibsch> RP: Is there a reason that bitbake bugs are marked as non-public by default?
May 27 17:23:48 <Laibsch> Otherwise I'd try to disable it.
May 27 17:24:17 <RP> Laibsch: Not that I'm aware of, its iritating 
May 27 17:24:25 <RP> zecke|study: any comment?
May 27 17:25:34 <zecke|study> Laibsch: feel free to change that
May 27 17:26:21 <steliosk> RP: This is how it starts and what i did ->http://rafb.net/p/9188Vh60.html
May 27 17:28:17 <RP> steliosk: ok, lets see which uclibc-initial it builds with which files...
May 27 17:30:25 <steliosk> Laibsch : got bad/good news :)
May 27 17:30:32 <Laibsch> ggilbert: I am playing around a bit with the features of bugzilla (I have to say this is something new to me)
May 27 17:30:47 <Laibsch> steliosk: Again?  Haven't even read your PM, yet
May 27 17:31:01 <steliosk> just check it 
May 27 17:32:13 * steliosk fast-forwards time to get uclibc-initial to build 
May 27 17:33:36 <xjqian> I'm skimming through all the emails I missed during the last week. But does everybody has any idea what this means: http://rafb.net/p/nBmjCc15.nln.html
May 27 17:34:04 <xjqian> a bug or something well-known and of little importance
May 27 17:34:11 <RP> koen|away: How much of a system do you have running with uclibc?
May 27 17:35:08 <koen|away> angstrom-minimal-image
May 27 17:35:36 <RP> koen|away: So the higher software stack is a bit untested?
May 27 17:36:08 <koen|away> RP: yes, but zecke has been testing console-image
May 27 17:36:51 <koen|away> xjqian: I think that's a side-effect from Laibsch's commit from today 
May 27 17:37:56 <Laibsch> I already repaired it
May 27 17:38:00 <Laibsch> Commit is imminent
May 27 17:38:01 <Laibsch> Sorry
May 27 17:39:00 <steliosk> zecke|study : btw tinderbox seems to be goinf faster today (for no apparent reason)
May 27 17:39:10 <Laibsch> xjqian: I have your image ready.  You still want it?
May 27 17:39:22 <xjqian> oh, yeah. 
May 27 17:39:28 <xjqian> I'm ready
May 27 17:39:45 <xjqian> thanks
May 27 17:40:51 <Laibsch> Sorry, it took a while longer but I changed my setup in between and had to recompile from scrath
May 27 17:40:53 <Laibsch> scratch
May 27 17:40:58 <steliosk> RP: -> http://rafb.net/p/o0cdck12.html
May 27 17:41:01 <Laibsch> What is it you were going to test?
May 27 17:41:22 <xjqian> Laibsch: give me a pointer where I could download
May 27 17:41:38 <Laibsch> Just a minute
May 27 17:41:39 <xjqian> Laibsch: first, some of the obsolete opie bugs
May 27 17:41:44 * Laibsch is preparing that as we speak
May 27 17:42:07 <xjqian> Laibsch: to confirm that they can be closed in bugtracker
May 27 17:42:30 <kristoffer> Anyone know the difference between platform_device and device? I've understod it like platform devices are hardware always available on a certain machine (like PDA's) while devices can be added (pcmcia-cards)
May 27 17:42:58 <Laibsch> xjqian: http://oz.leggewie.org/glibc/images/
May 27 17:43:08 <xjqian> Laibsch: and I'm setting up an amd64 machine to eventually ready to build an image myself
May 27 17:43:24 <Laibsch> xjqian: amd64 has some problems compiling stuff.
May 27 17:43:35 <Laibsch> There is a meta-bug about that in the 600er range
May 27 17:43:41 <Laibsch> !oebug 604
May 27 17:43:42 <cdbot2> * * Bug 604, Status: RESOLVED (INVALID), Created: 2006-01-19 10:34
May 27 17:43:43 <cdbot2> * * nickibox(AT)gmx.de: usb host port is not running on akita (sl c1000) Hrw test images
May 27 17:43:44 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=604
May 27 17:43:48 <Laibsch> no, not that one
May 27 17:44:15 <steliosk> RP: the look the same. the magicbox config is also not copied, but it does not hang at config
May 27 17:44:16 <Laibsch> !oebug 641
May 27 17:44:18 <cdbot2> * * Bug 641, Status: NEW, Created: 2006-01-30 06:09
May 27 17:44:19 <cdbot2> * * shadow(AT)serverart.org: amd64 build host metabug
May 27 17:44:20 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=641
May 27 17:44:27 <Laibsch> xjqian: That one
May 27 17:44:37 <xjqian> Laibsch: I'm aware of that, but I've already got all the components from a while ago, just don't have time to set it up
May 27 17:44:49 <RP> steliosk: strange. Same version of uclibc-initial?
May 27 17:45:06 <steliosk> RP: yes
May 27 17:45:37 <Laibsch> xjqian: Please download soonish.  I might delete it soonish
May 27 17:45:56 <Laibsch> It'll be rather slow, though
May 27 17:46:06 <steliosk> RP: if you see from the first link, when the build started, i just erased the tmp/uclibc and set bitbake to point to 1.6 . nothing else. same build configs, same machine
May 27 17:46:42 <steliosk> RP: maybe 1.6 is not *actually* running oldconfig ?
May 27 17:46:54 <xjqian> Laibsch: downloading...
May 27 17:47:05 <steliosk> RP: and thus getting away with the different configs ?
May 27 17:50:34 <steliosk> RP: debug of 1.6 building uclibc-initial -> http://rafb.net/p/IFCbN516.html
May 27 17:52:25 <steliosk> RP: line 412  does not seem to get oldconfig executed
May 27 17:56:55 <xjqian> Laibsch: it's pretty slow. but if you can leave the files overnight, I'm able to get them all. thanks
May 27 17:57:42 <Laibsch> I don't think you even you need them all
May 27 17:57:52 <Laibsch> The link is up 24/7
May 27 17:58:57 <Laibsch> For example, of the three zImage.bin, you only need zImage-tosa.bin itself.
May 27 17:59:34 <Laibsch> The other two are either an older version or a in the case of the latest version, zImage-tosa.bin is only a symlink to it
May 27 17:59:49 <Laibsch> Same for the the Angstrom-opie-images
May 27 18:00:26 <xjqian> i see
May 27 18:01:13 <Laibsch> RP: I think the problem with the BTS should be fixed now.  Why did we never have a version entry for bitbake products?
May 27 18:01:23 <Laibsch> I think I'll go and add them
May 27 18:02:42 <Laibsch> RP: Do we have a version later than 1.8.x?
May 27 18:03:10 <CIA-4> 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r23a59ceb... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ntp: fix issue with INITSCRIPT_NAME
May 27 18:06:17 <Laibsch> CIA-4: Wow, that took you a while ;-)
May 27 18:08:22 <Laibsch> zecke|study: Can the OE BTS transfer bugs to another bugzilla instance on the web?
May 27 18:08:47 <zecke|study> I don't know
May 27 18:11:01 <steliosk> RP, zecke|study : What do you think is the optimal number of threads for bitbake 1.8 per cpu ? 3 x the cpu/cores ?
May 27 18:13:32 <koen|away> Laibsch: bugzilla 3 supports moving bugs around, but I don't know how much pain, agony and perl is involved
May 27 18:19:08 <steliosk> heh who want's to share are bugs ? don't they have enough of their own :)
May 27 18:47:51 <steliosk> wow. efikas now are 99$
May 27 18:48:15 <steliosk> power(pc) to the masses :)
May 27 18:48:27 <Crofton> cool
May 27 18:48:42 <Crofton> I need to get mine going for a demo next week
May 27 18:50:33 <steliosk> Crofton : Got my presentation for OE accepted at power.org dev conference in September
May 27 18:50:44 <Crofton> neat!
May 27 18:51:04 <Crofton> where is the conferemce?
May 27 18:51:30 <steliosk> Austin Sept 24/25
May 27 18:51:40 <steliosk> http://www.power.org/home
May 27 18:52:03 <steliosk> now i need to zecke to fund my trip :)
May 27 18:52:36 <Crofton> well, it would be cheaper for me to go in your palce :)
May 27 18:53:31 <steliosk> i saw it first :)
May 27 18:53:38 <Crofton> :)
May 27 18:53:46 <Crofton> I need to go home
May 27 18:53:47 <Crofton> l8r
May 27 18:53:55 <steliosk> bye
May 27 18:58:49 <zecke|study> haha
May 27 19:03:13 <steliosk> zecke|study : what's funny ? the efika price ? ;)
May 27 19:04:11 <chouimat> boring
May 27 19:17:01 <Laibsch> steliosk: You want to move bugs if it turns out that it really is another project that is responsible for them.
May 27 19:17:14 <Laibsch> Think, an upstream bug for example
May 27 19:17:56 <steliosk> Laibsch : just joking :) 
May 27 19:19:04 <Laibsch> how energy efficient is the efika?
May 27 19:19:24 <zecke|study>  
May 27 19:19:53 * Laibsch is always interested in good computers for running 24/7 and acting as LAN servers plus X (VoIP, Fax, Web, ...)
May 27 19:21:21 <zecke|study> my cats are suicidal...
May 27 19:22:46 <CIA-4> 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re35c79c0... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom: distinguish between uclibc and glibc images
May 27 19:22:53 <chouimat> zecke|study: spend more time with them :)
May 27 19:24:23 <koen|away> RP: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/uclibc/images/c7x0/20070527/
May 27 19:24:47 <xjqian> zecke|study: give them to me, I will cure them
May 27 19:26:09 <zecke|study> chouimat: actually, they get suicidal when they spend time with me. You can't leave any window open...
May 27 19:27:17 <woglinde> uh nice
May 27 19:27:41 <woglinde> simpad uclibc angstrom-minimal image dud build
May 27 19:27:43 <woglinde> did
May 27 19:28:05 <chouimat> zecke|study: wow 
May 27 19:28:29 <zecke|study> woglinde: sure, I had to apply GNU sed power to libiconv
May 27 19:28:46 <woglinde> zecke yes
May 27 19:28:50 <woglinde> I saw it
May 27 19:28:51 <woglinde> thanks
May 27 19:29:16 <zecke|study> somehow my qemu emulator doesn't work over remoteX so I don't know if this image actually works
May 27 19:29:40 <RP> koen|away: Cool. I'm considering getting uclibc going in poky
May 27 19:30:07 <RP> steliosk: I think you might be right, perhaps diff the script outputted in temp/ and see if it looks different
May 27 19:30:55 <chouimat> zecke|study: you know that your music collection is too big when a) it use 2 bookshelves to put the audio cds and b) need 50 DVD to backup the mp3 :)
May 27 19:31:16 <koen|away> RP: the angstrom masterplan is to use uclibc for rescue partitions and debian-installer type images
May 27 19:31:47 <RP> koen|away: Mine would just be to be able to use it interchangably with glibc
May 27 19:32:09 <koen|away> I'm building an x11 image now against uclibc
May 27 19:32:15 <koen|away> lets see where that fails
May 27 19:32:36 <RP> koen|away: db fails for me
May 27 19:32:41 <woglinde> koen is my patch for uclibc simpad okay?
May 27 19:33:03 <RP> koen|away: Looks like an outdated config.sub
May 27 19:33:06 <koen|away> woglinde: I haven't looked at it yet, sorry
May 27 19:33:27 <zecke|study> The only known compile issue with uclibc is fontconfig (unless someone fixed it)
May 27 19:33:29 <woglinde> okay mrdata told that I did forget to attach it
May 27 19:33:34 <woglinde> buts now on the bug
May 27 19:35:16 <woglinde> -rw-r--r-- 1 woglinde woglinde 2596876 2007-05-27 20:17 Angstrom-minimalist-image-test-20070527-simpad.rootfs.jffs2
May 27 19:37:04 <koen|away> woglinde: looks ok
May 27 19:37:14 <koen|away> later all
May 27 19:37:37 <woglinde> koen yes I will flash it
May 27 19:37:46 <woglinde> oh the patch
May 27 19:37:48 <woglinde> sorry
May 27 19:38:07 <woglinde> hm maybe the TARGET_OS row can be delete
May 27 19:38:30 <woglinde> hm ah and uclic.conf needs to uncomment the USE_BX
May 27 19:38:41 <woglinde> for simpad and collie
May 27 19:38:53 <woglinde> aeh comment
May 27 19:38:56 <woglinde> damnit
May 27 19:40:54 <RP> zecke|study: db doesn't work
May 27 19:41:55 <zecke|study> RP: you said that already, in which way? doesn't compile? doesn't run?
May 27 19:41:57 <mr_nice> woglinde: cool :) 
May 27 19:42:03 <zecke|study> RP: is that berkeley db?
May 27 19:42:17 <woglinde> mr_nice :) he it has to work 
May 27 19:42:27 <RP> zecke|study: configure. Its config.sub is too old. Yes, I['m trying version 4.2.52
May 27 19:42:29 <woglinde> thats not always the case with uclubc
May 27 19:42:41 <RP> zecke|study: Replacing the config.sub with a newer one seems to work
May 27 19:42:58 <woglinde> oh the old autotoolsproblem
May 27 19:42:59 <zecke|study> RP: well, Berkeley db doesn't work by defition. don't we have a virtual/db? but you selected 4.2?
May 27 19:43:03 <zecke|study> (for evolution?)
May 27 19:43:13 <RP> zecke|study: Yes, its for eds-dbus
May 27 19:43:17 <woglinde> I hate the db-version flood
May 27 19:43:29 <woglinde> its 4 version on debian
May 27 19:43:32 <woglinde> or so
May 27 19:43:35 <zecke|study> let me fix the rpath in imlib-x11 first
May 27 19:47:04 <zecke|study> RP: any reason to look at 4.2.52 and not 4.3.29?
May 27 19:47:20 <RP> zecke|study: 4.3.29 doesn't work with eds-dbus
May 27 19:47:34 * zecke|study bites on his tongue
May 27 19:48:17 <RP> zecke|study: Don't worry, I think I have a fix by just replacing the config.sub
May 27 19:48:44 <RP> I do wonder why autotools doesn't regen the configure though
May 27 19:49:11 <zecke|study> RP: it might think it is not autogenerated
May 27 19:49:33 <RP> zecke|study: Look in dist
May 27 19:50:36 <zecke|study> now I'm confused
May 27 19:54:07 <RP> zecke|study: A feeling I know well :/
May 27 19:56:55 <RP> Laibsch: There is bitbake 1.9.x too (svn trunk)
May 27 19:59:22 <zecke|study> RP: which dist?
May 27 19:59:48 <RP> zecke|study: Sorry, the dist directory within the db tarball
May 27 20:02:56 <chouimat> hmm? llvm 2.0 ...
May 27 20:03:04 * chouimat goes check the new stuff
May 27 20:35:55 <zecke|study> would anyone mind if I patch libtool to never ever use -rpath?
May 27 20:36:16 <RP> zecke|study: Does it ever need it?
May 27 20:36:37 <zecke|study> yes
May 27 20:36:47 <zecke|study> if you don't want to link criticial apps statically
May 27 20:37:06 <zecke|study> and you want to make sure the files are found, and can not set LD_LIBRARY_PATH nor create /etc/ld.so.conf
May 27 20:37:10 <Crofton> zecke|study, try it :)
May 27 20:37:22 <RP> zecke|study: OE always has a sensible ld.so.conf?
May 27 20:37:24 <psokolovsky_> zecke|study: might be good idea, unless patch to hairy of course. otherwise, we'd better use that rpath mod utility...
May 27 20:37:50 <zecke|study> RP: yes, it has
May 27 20:38:16 <zecke|study> imlib breaks with the same symptons as libiconv broke, and I couldn't teach libiconv to stop it...
May 27 20:38:28 <Crofton> how often does libtool insert correct rpaths into cross images?
May 27 20:38:46 <zecke|study> that question is leading
May 27 20:40:06 <Crofton> :)
May 27 20:41:13 <zecke|study> but the correct answer is n+1
May 27 20:41:37 <zecke|study> where N exists and is any "ganze Zahl"
May 27 20:42:05 <aa_> well, I guess I don't really need it, but if I were to want to add a device, should I start by "adding a new distro to oe", or "adding a new machine for angstrom" ?
May 27 20:42:30 <aa_> it wouldn't be an immense achievment, as ubuntu already runs pretty well on the device
May 27 20:43:16 <zecke|study> aa_: device==machine?
May 27 20:44:09 <aa_> sorry, yes, device=machine
May 27 20:44:19 <aa_> http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Products/ProductsDetailPhoto.aspx?DetailID=690&LanID=0
May 27 20:45:04 <aa_> I am a software developer, and the software I am writing will be preloaded onto one of them
May 27 20:46:04 <zecke|study> aa_: well, create a new machine file and pick any distro you want
May 27 20:46:25 <aa_> wow, too much choice!
May 27 20:46:39 <zecke|study> well, I can say you angstrom is my personal favorite
May 27 20:46:48 <aa_> are any of them geared to run pygtk?
May 27 20:47:34 <zecke|study> aa_: you can build pygtk with any distribution (any means any glibc based one)
May 27 20:50:53 <aa_> well, from lack of clue, I am going to go with angsstrom...
May 27 20:51:02 <aa_> is that a member of the set glibc-based?
May 27 20:54:43 <zecke|study> aa_: it can do both glibc and uclibc, but it defaults to glibc
May 27 21:23:26 <t[cc]smar> butbake choose target alpha in .config of uclibc for h2200 machine... what might i do wrong ?
May 27 21:23:43 <t[cc]smar> angstrom distro
May 27 21:23:52 <zecke|study> did you pay your annual subscription fee?
May 27 21:24:02 <zecke|study> no idea, why it chose alpha
May 27 21:33:48 <RP> Hmm. Second report of uclibc doing stange things with overrides :/
May 27 21:35:07 <Bernardo> hi
May 27 21:35:23 * Bernardo is back.
May 27 21:37:15 <Bernardo> is there any documentation/wiki on how to go about fixing rpath problems in oe?
May 27 21:43:01 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 1501 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian@gmail.com
May 27 21:43:03 <cdbot2> * * [Bug 1501] no control of backlight on SL-6000
May 27 21:43:06 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1501
May 27 21:43:12 <zecke|study> Bernardo: no, just fix them
May 27 21:43:30 <zecke|study> Bernardo: check which buildsystem is used
May 27 21:51:48 <zecke|study> victory
May 27 21:54:15 <Bernardo> zecke|study: ok.
May 27 21:54:45 <Bernardo> zecke|study: I'll try (even though auto* always managed to confuse me)... :)
May 27 21:55:07 <zecke|study> that is the plot of autofoo
May 27 21:58:13 <zecke|study> http://rafb.net/p/7Ybrgd94.html comments?
May 27 21:58:19 <zecke|study> may I push it?
May 27 21:59:32 <Bernardo> if it doesn't break anything, I don't see why not
May 27 22:06:19 <zecke|study> rebuilding now, cya later
May 27 22:17:42 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora.
May 27 22:41:23 <Laibsch> xjqia1: Thanks for closing 1501
May 27 22:41:37 <Laibsch> Can you test the other tosa bugs in the BTS?
May 27 22:41:45 <Laibsch> Any new bugs?
May 27 22:42:51 <xjqia1> I've closed another one as won't fix
May 27 22:42:57 <xjqia1> !oebug 1298
May 27 22:42:59 <cdbot2> * * Bug 1298, Status: RESOLVED (WONTFIX), Created: 2006-08-11 15:10
May 27 22:43:00 <cdbot2> * * johnm(AT)singlenesia.com: \[OZ3.5.4.2RC1 tosa opie\] Lockup during initial boot
May 27 22:43:01 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1298
May 27 22:43:45 <xjqia1> I've found quite a few icons are only lo-res
May 27 22:45:24 <xjqia1> I'm not sure if anybody has time to work on the icons to make icons look slick on vga, but this is of low priority for now
May 27 22:46:43 <Laibsch> And I guess not tosa specific
May 27 22:47:23 <xjqia1> laibsch: no, those icons are not tosa specific, rather vga specific
May 27 22:49:17 <xjqia1> laibsch: I will test other tosa opie bugs when opie-player builds successfully for me
May 27 22:50:15 <Laibsch> Come on, I built this just for you to test bugs.
May 27 22:50:21 <Laibsch> Now you should test them
May 27 22:51:03 <xjqia1> laibsch, other bugs are related to opie-player
May 27 22:51:14 <xjqia1> and sounds in general
May 27 22:51:17 <Laibsch> I can build opie-player for you
May 27 22:51:26 <Laibsch> That should not take too long now
May 27 22:52:07 <Laibsch> Check my site in a couple of hours.
May 27 22:52:13 <Laibsch> The machine is very busy now
May 27 22:52:31 <Laibsch> But the package should have built over night.
May 27 22:52:43 <Laibsch> Let me know if there are any other packages you need for testing
May 27 22:53:50 <xjqia1> ok, please put all the dependencies (- those already in opie-image) of opie-player on the site.
May 27 22:54:00 <xjqia1> I won't have wifi for a week
May 27 22:54:22 <Laibsch> They should be built automatically
May 27 23:03:16 <xjqia1> laibsch: I will check it (opie-player) out later. I'm actually visiting my in-laws and won't be back to my own home for another week. 
May 27 23:04:23 <xjqia1> laibsch: I have to go now. please drop me an email at xjqian@gmail.com if you have anything important to add
May 27 23:06:24 <Laibsch> It seems there is no target for opie-player
May 27 23:27:44 <mrdata> night all
May 27 23:28:02 <woglinde> nite mrdata
May 27 23:32:02 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 549 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz
May 27 23:32:04 <cdbot2> * * [Bug 549] [OZ 3.5.4RC, Opie,
May 27 23:32:06 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549
May 28 01:07:02 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 2368 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by r.farina@adelphia.net
May 28 01:07:04 <cdbot2> * * [Bug 2368] Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver
May 28 01:07:06 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368
May 28 01:13:02 <cdbot2> * * OE Bug 2368 has been REOPENED () by r.farina@adelphia.net
May 28 01:13:04 <cdbot2> * * [Bug 2368] Enhanced Ralink RT2570 Driver
May 28 01:13:06 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2368
May 28 01:13:52 <Zero_Chaos> I accidently closed my own bug and then mad fun of myself in the message... nice
May 28 01:15:11 <Zero_Chaos> 2061,2068,2070
May 28 01:16:34 <Zero_Chaos> if someone would be kind enough to commit those for me.
May 28 01:16:38 <Zero_Chaos> it would be great
May 28 01:18:48 <crink> hi i have question
May 28 01:18:57 <crink> ?
May 28 01:19:17 <Zero_Chaos> crink: that's great.
May 28 01:19:28 <crink> i succeed to build minimo for mipsel but
May 28 01:19:58 <crink> minimo depends on libc-2.5
May 28 01:20:23 <crink> and my board libc version is 2.3.90(or 2.3.6?)
May 28 01:21:15 <crink> here is output
May 28 01:21:22 <crink> root@TB1200:/lib# ipkg install -force-depends minimo_0.02\+cvs20070510-r0_mipsel.ipk 
May 28 01:21:22 <crink> ipkg: minimo_0.02+cvs20070510-r0_mipsel.ipk: No such file or directory
May 28 01:21:22 <crink> Nothing to be done
May 28 01:21:22 <crink> An error ocurred, return value: 4.
May 28 01:21:22 <crink> Collected errors:
May 28 01:21:23 <crink> Cannot find package minimo_0.02+cvs20070510-r0_mipsel.ipk.
May 28 01:21:25 <crink> Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update'
May 28 01:21:27 <crink> root@TB1200:/lib# 
May 28 01:21:41 <crink> oop sorry
May 28 01:22:13 <crink> here is right output
May 28 01:22:20 <crink> root@TB1200:~/temp# ipkg install -force-depends minimo_0.02\+cvs20070510-r0_mipsel.ipk 
May 28 01:22:20 <crink> Installing minimo (1:0.02+cvs20070510-r0) to root...
May 28 01:22:20 <crink> Installing libc6 (2.5-r6) to root...
May 28 01:22:20 <crink> Nothing to be done
May 28 01:22:20 <crink> An error ocurred, return value: -1.
May 28 01:22:21 <crink> Collected errors:
May 28 01:22:23 <crink> ERROR: Package libc6 (parent libc6) is not available from any configured src.
May 28 01:22:25 <crink> Failed to download libc6. Perhaps you need to run 'ipkg update'?
May 28 01:22:27 <crink> root@TB1200:~/temp# 
May 28 01:22:39 <crink> any suggestion?
May 28 01:23:13 <crink> i had tried to  force intall libc6 and my board rootfs was gone
May 28 01:23:26 <crink> so i am trying again
May 28 01:35:06 <crink> how to upgrade libc6?
May 28 01:38:51 <Crofton> we are all asleep, sorry
May 28 01:39:12 <Futaris> Do we need these patches for EABI?
May 28 01:39:17 <Futaris> glibc - http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-ports/2007-05/msg00002.html
May 28 01:40:06 <Futaris> uclibc - http://www.uclibc.org/lists/uclibc/2007-May/017971.html
May 28 01:40:10 <crink> Crofton: that's fine
May 28 01:41:17 <Crofton> Futaris, I am not sure
May 28 02:17:07 <Zero_Chaos> g'day all
May 28 02:20:14 <Futaris> G'day Zero_Chaos
May 28 02:26:15 <crink> zero response in G'day :(
May 28 02:26:33 <crink> XD
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