**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 31 02:59:56 2007 May 31 05:06:15 Hmm, #oe is more popular than #gentoo-ppc :/ May 31 05:38:41 good morning May 31 07:09:01 * * OE Bug 2301 has been RESOLVED (WORKSFORME) by jbs@bandos.homelinux.com May 31 07:09:03 * *  bad RPATH - imlib2-loaders (imlib2-x11) [...] May 31 07:09:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2301 May 31 07:25:35 hi polyonymous_ ... seems like isp crisis is over ;) May 31 07:25:43 hi all ;) May 31 07:56:14 good morning May 31 07:58:22 good morning all May 31 07:58:46 hello mighty koen May 31 07:59:12 btw j/w anyone is going to put "qtopia free" into OE any soon? May 31 07:59:13 morning May 31 07:59:16 hi XorA May 31 07:59:26 Marex: is it not there? May 31 07:59:45 XorA, there is just qt/c iirc May 31 07:59:51 packages/qte/gtopia-core May 31 08:00:06 yup ... thats not what I mean ;) May 31 08:00:14 XorA, http://trolltech.com/products/qtopia/downloads check this May 31 08:01:59 Marex: which one *specifically*? May 31 08:02:53 darn ... I lost that link ... just a sec May 31 08:03:07 this http://trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qtopia/qtopia-source-gpl May 31 08:04:22 Marex: what stops me from doing this is the Qtopia buildsystem is too ugly May 31 08:05:24 zecke, there surely are much more uglier things ... like palmtc pcmcia :-/ May 31 08:06:01 * * OE Bug 1821 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl May 31 08:06:03 * *  Binary locale generation uses the files in [...] May 31 08:06:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5b2b2941... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass): glibc-package.bbclass: replace os.path.join with base_path_join to make OE use the locales from WORKDIR instead of /usr, closes #1821 May 31 08:06:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821 May 31 08:06:49 my first contribution to this months bugdays :) May 31 08:07:01 Marex: well, the source distribution contains Qtopia Core and Qtopia May 31 08:08:07 Marex: and I don't want to rebuild 70MB of sources just to patch a security issue in a library. May 31 08:08:30 Oh, bugdays again? May 31 08:08:41 zecke, actually 100 (compressed) ;) May 31 08:08:41 Let's see what the count is going in. May 31 08:09:07 zecke, but ok ... Ill try integrating it into my OE installation as soon as I have some time to play May 31 08:09:27 I just want to see it (qtopia4 may look nice :) ) May 31 08:09:45 Marex: well, and I have offered lorn to assist him adding it to OE, sadly he has not made his mind up yet May 31 08:10:01 Are we going to see Qt4 in OE soon? May 31 08:10:20 Laibsch: uicmoc, qmake is in OE May 31 08:10:26 Laibsch: its already there May 31 08:10:32 Laibsch, dunno ... but my tasklist will blow soon :) May 31 08:10:35 zecke: I just have to free up some time... May 31 08:10:40 qt4-x11-free_4.2.3.bb May 31 08:10:46 qt4-x11-free_4.1.2.bb May 31 08:10:56 qt4-x11-free_4.1.1.bb May 31 08:10:58 the first one is my attempt at qt, I failed :-( May 31 08:11:13 Laibsch: and we have an old version of QtopiaCore as well May 31 08:12:09 Laibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/ical/oe-events.ics May 31 08:12:36 qt 4.3.0 is out as well May 31 08:14:14 ~fishslap kubuntu's packaging May 31 08:14:29 * ibot slaps kubuntu's packaging up side the head with a wet fish. May 31 08:15:13 zecke: make qt 4.3.X work so Angstrom can have kde :-) May 31 08:19:24 NOTE: collecting binary locales from locale tree May 31 08:19:28 *fninally* May 31 08:24:55 ... May 31 08:42:02 * * OE Bug 2405 has been created by skliarieh@gmail.com May 31 08:42:04 * * TouchScreen support May 31 08:42:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2405 May 31 08:45:40 morning May 31 08:45:50 ~lart that reporter May 31 08:46:01 * ibot cats /dev/urandom into that reporter's ear May 31 08:46:29 hey hrw May 31 08:47:15 so who will add qt 4.3.0? May 31 08:47:28 hrw: someone cleverer than me May 31 08:47:51 that resolves to noone. May 31 08:48:12 XorA: poppler 0.5.9 has speedups May 31 08:50:31 likewise: all hope is lost then, as Im a retard :-) May 31 08:52:11 Hi! can anyone of you guru tell me about file system partitoning in an embedded Linux syastem (flash) May 31 08:52:24 any links or pointer to right direction will do May 31 08:52:24 I need few partitions in my flash e.g. read only firmware storage, a rw area etc May 31 08:52:55 S_A: I would like to read about it too. I think that linux-mtd is good start May 31 08:52:57 We can start an OpenEmbedded Clinic May 31 08:53:53 * steliosk hides from the people with the white robes May 31 08:54:19 steliosk: do you need a hand on sepukku.bbclass? May 31 08:54:33 bbiab May 31 08:55:19 zecke : did not touch it yet :( We are swamped with 2 projects (which as usuall) are running behind schedule May 31 09:00:38 btw anyone got an idea shy and when binary locales generated by glibc will be need it to be used ? May 31 09:01:20 in short does it make sense to generate them or is it a wast of time ? May 31 09:01:40 "An fellow at webwide@rpsys.net have fairly recent (from 2007-05-16) patch from USB: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches May 31 09:01:41 Trying to contact him..." May 31 09:01:47 this is getting hilarious May 31 09:08:10 hrw: poppler 5.9 doesnt compile May 31 09:08:44 ah May 31 09:09:10 koen: where is that from? May 31 09:09:23 hrw: badly written C++ it looks like May 31 09:10:04 zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2171 May 31 09:10:04 zecke: I am guessing from 2405 May 31 09:10:14 ah, dang May 31 09:10:17 missed it May 31 09:10:37 ah May 31 09:11:21 hrw !!!! i aleady viewed your nickname..@.@ May 31 09:13:09 Ok, bug count going into the weekend is 82! Let's make that at least triple digit by Sunday! May 31 09:14:16 Laibsch: feel free to announce the bugdays on the mailinglist :) May 31 09:16:30 koen: are you going to answer Rodrigo Vivi? May 31 09:16:50 what did vivijim ask? May 31 09:17:12 koen: "strange error: missing depends..." was the subject of the mail May 31 09:17:38 Laibsch.. other channel msg from me?..@.@; May 31 09:17:57 ...(.......stupid english..-.-) May 31 09:17:59 zecke: right I see it May 31 09:18:08 koen: any idea what to answer? May 31 09:18:13 zecke: I classified that as a bitbake bug and left that up to you and RP May 31 09:18:53 the task recipe looks OK to me May 31 09:19:23 RDEPENDS_task-mamona-all := "${PACKAGES}" looks a bit suspicious, though May 31 09:21:45 koen : btw not sure if you have seen my message on the irc on that _> FEED_ARCH ?= "${TARGET_ARCH}" evaluates to ${TARGET_ARCH} and not the actual target arch May 31 09:22:05 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r901164f6... 10/ (1 packages/libhangul packages/libhangul/libhangul_0.0.4.bb): May 31 09:22:05 libhangul: initial release. untested. May 31 09:22:05 Thanks to onion and koen. May 31 09:22:05 Angstrom Korea go,go go! May 31 09:22:05 One more country one the road to world domination ;-) May 31 09:22:44 Laibsch: which part of that Korea? May 31 09:22:55 okok gogo May 31 09:23:04 ah.................. underground news.... May 31 09:23:05 .. May 31 09:23:25 my friend... converted TCPMP to angstrom... May 31 09:23:26 steliosk: yes, haven't given mu thought to that yet May 31 09:23:34 (very good program..) May 31 09:23:49 hrw: they forgot to define propper types for fixed-point May 31 09:25:02 * XorA screams at the insanity of doubly overloaded operators May 31 09:27:34 koen: Sorry, no time. And not much time to help with bugdays. May 31 09:28:02 Shiny Mercedes is waiting for me this afternoon until Sunday noon (no, not for fun, for business) May 31 09:28:04 onion__: please put tcpmp.bb into bugs.openembedded.org Im very interested May 31 09:28:21 Laibsch: use it for fun in the evenings May 31 09:28:22 Laibsch: woman or car? May 31 09:28:53 XorA: Good idea. Assignment is only until Saturday at noon ;-) May 31 09:29:03 hrw: Car May 31 09:37:50 hrw: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11110 May 31 09:38:53 XorA, now tcptmp port version now alpha version..^.^; May 31 09:44:28 ....e.... May 31 09:44:37 Laibsch, ...angstrom not have fc-cache? May 31 09:44:54 its in fontconfig-utils May 31 09:45:37 thank you May 31 09:48:51 ibot: mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. Please attach go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. May 31 09:49:05 Laibsch: okay May 31 09:49:11 @all Feel free to improve the wording. May 31 09:49:18 The oneliner is untested but I guess it should work May 31 09:49:22 !mtndiff May 31 09:49:32 ~mtndiff May 31 09:49:50 ibot is lightning quick ;) May 31 09:49:53 rumour has it, mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. Please attach go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. May 31 09:50:51 ibot: mtndiff is The best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to run "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OR directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. May 31 09:51:00 ...but mtndiff is already something else... May 31 09:51:08 ibot: forget mtndiff May 31 09:51:09 i forgot mtndiff, Laibsch May 31 09:51:11 ibot: no, mtndiff is the best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OE directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to 3Dit. May 31 09:51:17 ibot: no, mtndiff is the best way to get files added into OpenEmbedded is to "find packages/$projectdir -exec mtn add {} ;\ ; mtn diff packages/$projectdir > /tmp/mtndiff.patch" from within your OE directory. After that please go to http://bugs.openembedded.org then, open a new ticket and attach /tmp/mtndiff.patch to it. May 31 09:51:17 hrw: okay May 31 09:51:20 hrw: okay May 31 09:51:24 thats proper May 31 09:51:59 thanks, hrw May 31 09:52:08 Was trying to achieve the same thing May 31 09:52:21 I know May 31 09:52:57 That should help May 31 09:53:08 And probably better here than in the wiki, even May 31 09:58:03 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r2139dbef... 10/ (1 packages/nabi packages/nabi/nabi_0.17.bb): May 31 09:58:03 nabi: initial commit. Untested. May 31 09:58:03 Thank you, onion. May 31 10:00:46 hi all May 31 10:01:57 CIA-4, package now testing...^.^ May 31 10:02:39 Laibsch: did you add checksums to the checksums.ini? May 31 10:04:09 zecke: no May 31 10:04:25 And I made a small mistake in SRC_URI which I am going to correct now May 31 10:04:44 zecke: I think that is something which should be done automatically. Not a monkey's job May 31 10:05:00 zecke: Sort of like hrw's initial download May 31 10:05:15 onion__: CIA-4 is a robot, not a human May 31 10:05:24 ~cia May 31 10:05:37 Laibsch: well, security wise I don't trust monkeys May 31 10:05:38 cia is, like, a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.navi.cx/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) May 31 10:05:48 Laibsch: they are good on entertainment but not for security May 31 10:07:04 zecke: Or write something like "bitbake -c commitmd5 $blah" to download and commit the md5 for me. I won't do anything else and I don't feel like this should be a manual job May 31 10:07:26 ibot: no, cia is a CVS/Subversion commit notification bot run on #commits among other channels, originally by scanline, http://cia.vc/, or the Central Intelligence Agency, but the bot is more important. ;) May 31 10:07:41 koen: okay May 31 10:08:01 huk...... bot... thankyou..-.-; May 31 10:08:08 Laibsch: well, by the very nature it has to be done manually. But we can consider a task May 31 10:09:05 heh task lazy-dev ;) May 31 10:09:32 md5 should be checked before commited or there is no sense in using them May 31 10:09:56 can someone with a glibc build find iconv.m4 in the staging area? May 31 10:10:03 steliosk: I am sure hrw did not check all md5 when initially committing. May 31 10:10:33 steliosk: not all projects publish md5 May 31 10:10:48 Laibsch : Maybe, but in general blindly addind md5 defeats their purpose May 31 10:10:49 and even for those that do. How do you know that they are not compromised May 31 10:10:50 Laibsch: and not all projects publish signed md5 sums May 31 10:11:06 zecke: only on the native staging May 31 10:11:12 koen: awesome :) May 31 10:11:13 koen@bitbake:/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/staging$ find . -name iconv.m4 May 31 10:11:14 ./i686-linux/share/aclocal/iconv.m4 May 31 10:11:39 ~lart down-town meetings May 31 10:11:40 * ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets down-town meetings feel it May 31 10:11:57 later all May 31 10:14:38 the mmc scr diff on LAK is interesting May 31 10:21:09 * * OE Bug 2210 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 10:21:11 * *  QA issues in lftp (RPATH, etc) X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org May 31 10:21:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2210 May 31 10:32:04 www.openembedded.org needs a beefier server or some tasks moved to other servers May 31 10:32:34 or some limit on mtn (and its connections) which I assume is the problem May 31 10:32:57 Laibsch: or use a mirror :) May 31 10:34:07 zecke: As I said numerous times. *I* do use an mtn mirror May 31 10:34:14 I am talking about www May 31 10:34:27 Laibsch, root@spitz:/usr/share/locale$ locale -a C May 31 10:34:27 POSIX May 31 10:34:27 ko_KR.euckr ...(end) May 31 10:34:29 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r36f14d73... 10/ (1 packages/nabi/nabi_0.17.bb): nabi: Fix SRC_URI May 31 10:34:34 * Laibsch does not know about a www mirror for oe.org May 31 10:34:58 Laibsch, ko_KR.utf8 package.....may not supported..T.T May 31 10:35:23 onion__: I am sorry, but I really cannot help you today. Even though 'd like to. May 31 10:35:37 Please wait for Freak_NL to return May 31 10:35:46 Laibsch: hehe May 31 10:36:12 onion__: Open ticket in the bug tracker so that Freak_NL can take a look when he returns May 31 10:36:14 Laibsch, ah... im not help from you... already you think.....^.^ May 31 10:36:39 Laibsch, that's word.... trash talk...~.~ May 31 10:41:56 Laibsch: did you have any problems with the collie and the patch from 2323? May 31 10:42:27 zecke: Couldn't monotone.openembedded.org use round-robin DNS? May 31 10:42:46 thesing: Sorry, not compiled yet May 31 10:42:54 The kernel is there. But not the image. May 31 10:43:05 I don't think I'll get to it before Sunday May 31 10:43:48 Ok. I will ask again on monday then ;) May 31 10:44:21 Please do May 31 10:47:47 Laibsch, ...s.u.c.c.e.s.s.......LD May 31 10:47:48 :D May 31 10:48:19 XorA: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C-fAxN-dL_E May 31 10:51:46 hrw: :-D May 31 10:53:10 onion__: Nice!!! May 31 10:53:13 Send pix! May 31 10:53:19 huk.... May 31 10:53:47 ...nabi is success... but.. xim program not accept XIM... May 31 10:53:50 (oh no) May 31 10:57:55 rwhitby: http://times.usefulinc.com/2007/05/31-nslu2 May 31 11:00:02 * * OE Bug 2160 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:00:04 * *  RPATH issue in sword X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org May 31 11:00:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2160 May 31 11:05:02 * * OE Bug 2208 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:05:04 * *  RPATH in madplay X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org May 31 11:05:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 May 31 11:05:39 http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/OneandaHalfTiered-Application-Design.aspx arghhh May 31 11:14:01 * * OE Bug 2192 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:14:03 * *  bad RPATH in libmodplug X-BeenThere: openembedded-issues@lists.openembedded.org May 31 11:14:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2192 May 31 11:26:50 hi May 31 11:27:01 * * OE Bug 2147 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:27:03 * *  Insane RPATH in gnutls 1.6.2 May 31 11:27:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2147 May 31 11:28:51 CM: thx May 31 11:29:00 hrw, Laibsch May 31 11:29:06 hi crink May 31 11:29:09 hi May 31 11:29:24 rwhitby: Everyone wants a pet slug ;) May 31 11:30:33 My 256MB fatslug has just been finished and is undergoing final testing before being shipped to me :-) May 31 11:30:46 rwhitby: sweet May 31 11:30:58 hey crink, what's up? May 31 11:31:42 rwhitby: nice. how much for it? May 31 11:32:01 hrw, Laibsch: the matchbox hangul patch will be included in matchbox tarball(i wish), i mail to mallum, he didn't remembered, so i will send the patch again. May 31 11:32:10 well, I got the software to work for the guy for his own fatslug, so he's doing mine for the price of the basic slug and shipping only. May 31 11:32:39 rwhitby: ;) May 31 11:32:43 it may well have 16MB flash too - haven't checked whether he decided to do that or not. May 31 11:32:50 /s/matchbox/matchbox-keyboard/ May 31 11:32:56 he was professional SMT equipment at his workplace :-) May 31 11:33:01 s/was/has/ May 31 11:33:10 rwhitby: for me it can have even 2M - bootloader+kernel May 31 11:33:29 rwhitby: What are you planning to do with the fat one? :) May 31 11:33:53 dunno yet. May 31 11:34:39 have a big ramdisk on it, and no external storage. completely silent and no writes to the flash. May 31 11:37:01 * * OE Bug 2187 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:37:03 * *  libusbpp contains bad RPATH May 31 11:37:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2187 May 31 11:37:57 hrw: i installed *.ipk into , but when it boot, 't recognized ethernet driver. May 31 11:38:01 * * OE Bug 2169 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2147 by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 11:38:03 * *  Bad RPATHs in gnutls-xx 1.6.2-r0 May 31 11:38:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2169 May 31 11:38:08 /didn May 31 11:38:10 t May 31 11:38:51 ~seen woglinde May 31 11:39:48 * crink back to crosstool again, start building minimo. May 31 11:40:02 * * OE Bug 1296 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 11:40:05 * *  Touchscreen not working on Collie under 2.6 kernel. May 31 11:40:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1296 May 31 11:40:54 woglinde was last seen on IRC in channel #opensimpad.org, 1d 17h 14m 42s ago, saying: 'das fpga macht eigentlich auch richtig spass'. May 31 11:42:02 * * OE Bug 612 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 11:42:04 * *  hrw test images: gpe-contacts + libmimedir may be missing glibc-gconv for locales May 31 11:42:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=612 May 31 11:43:02 * * OE Bug 613 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 11:43:04 * *  hrw test images: GPE-image on akita : Minilite crashes : segmentation fault May 31 11:43:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613 May 31 11:44:02 * * OE Bug 625 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 11:44:04 * *  mount issues using Hrw test images May 31 11:44:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625 May 31 11:44:19 crink: Maybe you want to talk to onion__. It seems the two of you are fellow country-men May 31 11:44:30 ? May 31 11:44:35 call me? May 31 11:45:35 crink: Thanks to onion, we now have the first Korean input module in OE: http://blog.leggewie.org/?p=16 May 31 11:45:46 onion__: It seems both you and crink are Korean May 31 11:45:58 So you might be able to help each other May 31 11:46:04 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/30/garmany_anti-hacking_law/ WHAT THE HELL? May 31 11:46:25 anyone in .de better uninstall any operating systems they have installed May 31 11:46:30 Laibsch, ah.. thank you...~.~ May 31 11:46:56 Laibsch: scim, scim-hangul is better, trust me. May 31 11:47:43 scim so heavy.... and not naturally...... May 31 11:48:05 most korean use nabi.... i hope try it..T.T May 31 11:48:33 CoreDump|home: so mickeyl is now double criminal.. he wrote wellenreiter May 31 11:49:03 onion__: not me, May 31 11:49:25 guys, this is OE, there is space for both methods May 31 11:49:51 crink: This is open source. Release early and release often. Improve what you have step by step. That is my philosophy. May 31 11:49:54 and if there is an internal war of styles in Korea then angstrom-x11-nabi-image, angstrom-x11-scim-image can I assume be made May 31 11:50:12 crink, ?.. ah.. work it me.. now problem is.. most program not run with XIM May 31 11:50:40 Laibsch: OE and handhels enviroment(which use touch screen), nabi is hard to join, unless if you use keyboard. May 31 11:50:42 crink, nabi and imhangul already compile and packaged. May 31 11:50:58 onion__: 1 years ago, i tried it. May 31 11:51:11 crink: As you were told. It is not either or. You can have both May 31 11:51:11 angstrom not supprot XIM? May 31 11:51:23 crink: You only install what you like May 31 11:51:38 Laibsch: yes May 31 11:51:45 onion__: I don't think anybody tried before you. May 31 11:53:02 hm..... May 31 11:53:13 /s/handhels/handhelds/ May 31 11:53:50 hi, has anyone worked with freescale mx31? I'd like to try Angstrom on it but I am not quite sure how :) what kind of image do I need to feed to the bootloader? May 31 11:54:04 /s/enviroment/environment/ May 31 11:54:15 Jin^eLD: zImage May 31 11:54:22 Jin^eLD: I have angstrom on mx31 here May 31 11:54:46 XorA: so I tell the bootloader to load the zimage and then what? is there a way to pass parameters to the kernel? May 31 11:55:17 load -r -b 0x100000 zImage May 31 11:55:17 exec -b 0x100000 -l 0x200000 -c "noinitrd console=ttymxc0,115200 root=/dev/nfs ip=bootp" May 31 11:55:45 XorA: that looks redbootish, right? May 31 11:55:52 Jin^eLD: yup May 31 11:56:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5ffe474e... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_4.1.2.bb): gcc-cross-initial: add 4.1.2 May 31 11:56:21 hmm, I don't have redboot on there May 31 11:56:35 Jin^eLD: its what freescale supplied with mine May 31 11:56:45 Jin^eLD: does yours have eboot? May 31 11:56:50 yes, I think so May 31 11:57:26 I'm familiar with redboot but could not quite figure out how to get Angstrom going from eboot May 31 11:57:56 Jin^eLD: you need to get a WinCE using friend to reflash the board May 31 11:58:13 ok, the board came with Win CE ;) and I guess such a friend is around May 31 11:58:17 Jin^eLD: you can do it from JTAG yourself if you can find the instructions and have supported JTAG May 31 11:58:28 ok.. so I need to flash it with rebood? May 31 11:58:30 redboot that is May 31 11:58:32 Jin^eLD: yes May 31 11:58:53 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r5fdb0dc4... 10/ (1 packages/lftp/lftp_3.5.1.bb): May 31 11:58:53 packages/lftp/lftp: Delete the custom iconv.m4 in favor of the staged one fixing the uclibc build May 31 11:58:53 Make it use the libiconv iconv.m4 instead of the custom copy May 31 11:58:55 ok, I see.. I guess there will be one for this board on the freescale site? May 31 11:59:24 Jin^eLD: it was missing when I last checked so I had to ask them directly May 31 11:59:37 Jin^eLD: it should be on opensource.freescale.com May 31 11:59:45 roger that, thanks a lot! May 31 11:59:50 I will give it a try now May 31 12:00:07 there is even a kernel in OE for it May 31 12:00:14 cool May 31 12:00:24 well, koen pointed me to precompiled angstrom images May 31 12:00:25 MACHINE=mx31ads May 31 12:00:26 shout at lrg if its busted :-D May 31 12:00:27 so I will try that May 31 12:00:49 thx May 31 12:00:53 XorA: can't we shout at lrg anyway? May 31 12:01:01 koen: its a good plan May 31 12:02:02 * * OE Bug has been RESOLVED by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 12:02:04 * *  TouchScreen support May 31 12:02:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id= May 31 12:02:58 * lrg hides May 31 12:04:08 koen: he has a secret fetish for fish slap so you can do that in person when in Edin :-) May 31 12:04:09 Laibsch, http://onionmixer.net/images/page/image/20070531_zaurusenv.png ............... my zaurus photo.. im using extra keyborad.. :D May 31 12:04:11 ~fish lrg May 31 12:04:25 * ibot slaps lrg around with a large trout May 31 12:04:52 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 awesome May 31 12:05:12 zecke: the monotone ml has a long thread about it May 31 12:06:03 I'd like to point out two bugs with large "closure potential" for this weekend May 31 12:06:06 !oebug 2194 May 31 12:06:08 * * Bug 2194, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-01 05:03 May 31 12:06:09 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: meta-bug: bugs waiting to be committed and fixed May 31 12:06:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2194 May 31 12:06:11 !oebug 2228 May 31 12:06:13 * * Bug 2228, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-03 15:22 May 31 12:06:15 * * bugs.openembedded.org(AT)rolf.leggewie.biz: Meta-Bug: new or updated bb recipes May 31 12:06:17 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2228 May 31 12:06:37 koen: yes May 31 12:06:45 koen: I'm reading the mailinglist first May 31 12:06:52 koen: I'm viewing the video first... May 31 12:07:19 onion__: http://kldp.org/node/80283 May 31 12:07:44 something is not fixed so easily May 31 12:08:03 so scim scim-hangul May 31 12:08:25 * crink was long-time nabi user, and scim user. May 31 12:08:40 crink, im already view that's thread.. but that's user using 3bulsik keyborad use.. im 2bulsik May 31 12:09:30 onion__: have you read the link, there is no mention about 3bulsik, May 31 12:09:55 it is from my experience May 31 12:10:49 crink, ...my desktop is linux.. and im using from gentoo 1.2.. my linux dekstop exp is now low...^.^; May 31 12:11:11 and note that above link only mention on *desktop* linux, not *embedded* environment. May 31 12:11:32 embedded environment is different. May 31 12:11:51 and that thread says ...linux env is bad... nabi only bad not. May 31 12:12:04 maybe May 31 12:12:19 zecke: the comment from graydon about pointer fiddling is noteworthy May 31 12:12:33 koen: that sounds illegal May 31 12:12:48 hm.. for ex.. im rdesktop use in zaurus... zaurus is prefect terminal client device... May 31 12:14:35 i understand zaurus not desktop... ... but hope more useful this device. May 31 12:14:46 :D May 31 12:15:03 :) May 31 12:15:39 crink, but thank your advise.... (really~) May 31 12:16:31 onion__: np May 31 12:16:58 np? np mean? (internation irc newbie) May 31 12:17:10 no problem May 31 12:17:19 ah... ok thankyou..^.^ May 31 12:18:18 onion__: thx, thx to krisna May 31 12:18:53 crink, ?.... now talk with me..(other korean irc service) May 31 12:18:56 ^.^; May 31 12:20:32 onion__: thx but i don't. May 31 12:20:59 krisna says...... "i now know.... nabi, xim, angstrom problem..." May 31 12:21:00 ... May 31 12:21:06 hahahaha...T.T May 31 12:22:02 onion__: do some programming between {nabi,xim}, good luck May 31 12:22:54 thx crink :D May 31 12:23:06 onion__: :) May 31 12:23:16 have to go, g'night May 31 12:23:21 bye~ May 31 12:30:05 ...downloading the linux boards upport package :> I hope redboot will be there May 31 12:30:10 XorA: does 3D rendering work for you? May 31 12:31:42 Jin^eLD: never tried it May 31 12:36:21 I see.. btw, did you try it with the dev board or is yours a final product that's already available? May 31 12:36:42 Jin^eLD: its a purchasable devboard May 31 12:38:11 hrw: cables are finally in. But boy did the mail people mistreat that package! May 31 12:39:04 Laibsch: good that they arrived May 31 12:39:07 hrw: 9 cables inside as expected May 31 12:39:13 hrw: Yes, I am glad, too May 31 12:39:20 Laibsch: check one of them with spitz May 31 12:39:22 Laibsch: yay May 31 12:39:40 In case I don't see hvontres, please let him know May 31 12:39:50 so cables: Laibsch, RP, CoreDump, XorA - who else was on list? May 31 12:40:03 ~seen hvontres|poodle May 31 12:40:45 Bernado wanted one AFAIK May 31 12:42:05 hvontres|poodle was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 13h 53m 45s ago, saying: 'thesing: hehe..a hacker with a manual...an dangerours combo :)'. May 31 12:42:33 ibot: botmail to hvontres|poodle Cables arrived to Laibsch. thx May 31 12:42:42 ibot: thx May 31 12:42:57 np, or eeeerrruuusssshhhwwwaaaaaAAAAAAAAA!!!!11 May 31 12:43:33 first test: Cables fit. Passed ;-) May 31 12:43:38 What now? May 31 12:43:59 minicom? May 31 12:44:19 minicom May 31 12:44:32 115200 8n1 - no flow control May 31 12:51:31 hrw: What device node? May 31 12:51:58 ttyS0? May 31 12:52:03 /dev/ttyS0 usually May 31 12:52:10 OK May 31 12:55:28 I think I have made the settings. May 31 12:55:36 How do I get a connection? May 31 12:55:38 AM? May 31 12:55:43 M? May 31 12:55:48 stupid autocomplete May 31 12:56:34 Laibsch: with a minicom on both ends, you should see what you type in one in the other May 31 12:56:54 Ah May 31 12:57:02 No minicom on the Z yet May 31 12:57:10 This will have to wait until Sunday May 31 12:57:18 s/minicom/picocom|cu/ May 31 12:57:27 l8er May 31 13:00:45 Laibsch: actually getty should be running on Z side May 31 13:00:59 Laibsch: so after hitting enter a couple of times you should get a login prompt May 31 13:04:28 is there a standardized format for custom OE distro's packages? I see that openmoko uses _+svnYYYYMMDD-r for their packages May 31 13:04:54 jsheldon: its on the wiki May 31 13:05:13 XorA: ok I must not have come across it yet then, thanks May 31 13:05:16 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/VersioningPolicy May 31 13:12:00 ~change 32 gbp to pln May 31 13:12:34 about 50 euro I gues May 31 13:12:36 Laibsch: reboot Z - will be enough May 31 13:14:41 trains are more expensive then flights ;D May 31 13:18:16 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * rd2b68d07... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): tree: a new .bb for tree recursive lister May 31 13:19:33 hrw: UK trains are a massive government fsckup May 31 13:28:19 RP: according to google upgrading a stk1000 involves replacing the chip and changing 2 lines in uboot May 31 13:32:26 ibot, seen pbird May 31 13:32:30 i haven't seen 'pbird', Marex May 31 13:32:35 :-/ May 31 13:34:06 Hello, I've built a "bootstrap-image" target to have a simple linux kernel + rootfs. I think that now I need a uBoot image. Could oe build it for me ? May 31 13:34:14 koen: What kind of chip is it? Easily changed physically? May 31 13:38:30 theBrave: check out linux-gta01 May 31 13:39:11 KERNEL_IMAGE_TYPE = "uImage" or something like that May 31 13:43:35 hrw: I rebooted collie/a, another collie/OZ and spitz/A with the cable attached and minicom running on the host. No reaction. May 31 13:45:33 hey pH5 May 31 13:45:53 hej koen May 31 13:47:04 * koen discovers http://www.htmldatasheet.com/ May 31 13:47:27 theBrave, OE can build u-boot May 31 13:50:02 Crofton, is it an option to add to local.conf ? May 31 13:50:43 hmmm May 31 13:50:56 maybe listed in the kernel bb file May 31 13:50:59 or machine file May 31 13:51:14 look in machine/omap5912osk.conf May 31 13:51:17 I think it is there May 31 13:52:30 ok, I'll check May 31 13:56:40 Laibsch: you have 2 serial ports in machine? May 31 13:57:08 XorA: Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering. May 31 13:57:14 ops May 31 13:57:18 "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering." - now I know what Yoda was talking about May 31 13:57:29 he tried to buy ticket online May 31 14:03:17 hrw: koen found that one out the other day May 31 14:03:56 Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. May 31 14:05:22 I will face my fear... And when it is gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. May 31 14:05:25 Where the fear is gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. May 31 14:06:04 fear is the mindkiller May 31 14:06:53 It probably makes me equally sad that I know where the quotes are from :) May 31 14:07:08 where? May 31 14:07:14 Crofton, uboot is built but it doen't make the mkimage thing May 31 14:07:35 RP: :) May 31 14:08:26 mkimage is done in the kernel bb file May 31 14:08:32 Crofton: Dune (Frank Herbert) May 31 14:08:35 ok May 31 14:08:42 I think the kernel build files also run the mkiamge May 31 14:09:02 look in linux-omap1 kernel bb file for one hacky example May 31 14:09:02 RP: but do you know they are describing a female orgasm :-) May 31 14:09:13 I should know that May 31 14:09:32 Hm, I think I missed the "pass over me and through me" part. May 31 14:10:10 XorA: how would frank herbert know? May 31 14:10:38 pH5: not a clue, I think I read somewhere the mantra is based on some older work by a women May 31 14:10:39 I more remember the shortened version from the films as I've seen them a few times since I read the book... May 31 14:10:59 XorA: Its an interesting theory :) May 31 14:11:01 I didnt like the SciFi versions, I love the original film May 31 14:11:36 Both had their good and bad points and picked up on different bits of the book May 31 14:12:47 hrw: tried the cable on another computer with ttyS0, ttyS1 and ttyS2 and the collie/A. Still nothing. minicom shows offline and does not budge. I think I am doing something wrong. May 31 14:13:09 Laibsch: Try saving the settings in minicom and then restarting it May 31 14:13:17 Sounds mad but it sometimes acts a bit strange... May 31 14:13:23 Laibsch: which distro are you on? May 31 14:13:31 XorA: ubuntu May 31 14:13:35 edgy May 31 14:13:41 Laibsch: works for me with collie May 31 14:13:50 cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 May 31 14:13:58 much better then minicom crap May 31 14:14:21 XorA: minicom crap has few extras not present in cu May 31 14:14:33 hrw: but not needed for basic serial access May 31 14:14:41 what package for cu May 31 14:14:42 ? May 31 14:15:12 uucp May 31 14:15:19 cu: /usr/bin/cu May 31 14:15:52 yes, there seems to be a see you package May 31 14:16:01 uucp. That nice modern procotol :) May 31 14:17:03 I get "line in use" for all ttySx May 31 14:17:23 become root? May 31 14:17:45 koen: I was root May 31 14:17:55 ah, qemu is working for armeb/eabi as well May 31 14:18:07 Laibsch: chown uucp:uucp /dev/ttyS* and blame uucp authors May 31 14:18:11 Laibsch, not sleeping? May 31 14:21:02 crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 4, 64 2007-05-31 15:13 /dev/ttyS0 May 31 14:21:05 and cu works fine May 31 14:21:15 debian packages removed the uucp requirement AFAIK May 31 14:21:48 onion__: It is 4 o'clock in the afternoon here. May 31 14:21:52 and runs as my normal user May 31 14:22:33 hence why I use it as its soooooo much simpler than minicom May 31 14:22:47 cu -l /dev/ttyS0 -s 115200 May 31 14:22:58 XorA: and cu supports resizing and colours May 31 14:23:03 Laibsch, america? May 31 14:23:04 XorA: Same settings here. May 31 14:23:14 onion__: Try again May 31 14:23:15 Laibsch: lsof /dev/ttyS0 May 31 14:23:24 Laibsch, america? May 31 14:23:45 hrw,Laibsch : Thanks for you message...have fun with the cables :) May 31 14:24:17 hvontres|poodle: Thanks for sending it. Did you give the package a good rub or was it the mail people? May 31 14:24:54 Maybe that is why it came so late. 6-9 days? "We'll never manage to fuck it up so badly in that short time frame" ;-) May 31 14:25:11 Maybe you should ask some of your money back May 31 14:25:42 XorA: lsof returned empty May 31 14:26:05 Laibsch: Not sure. But actually, that was the least expensive way... up to 2 Kg for $9.50 if you can stuff it in the envelope :) May 31 14:26:38 Laibsch: wierd May 31 14:26:41 Laibsch: BTW, if somebody REALLY wants their original box and useless instruction sheet, I still have them at home :) May 31 14:26:45 Wow, that is kinda bargain May 31 14:27:00 hvontres|poodle: I am sure you'll get lots of requests May 31 14:27:07 groups May 31 14:27:08 gg dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev netdev powerdev May 31 14:27:17 XorA: Indeed. It works as the normal user, but not as root ;-) May 31 14:27:18 Laibsch: you in dialout group May 31 14:27:19 Laibsch: actually, I think I did include one May 31 14:27:26 hrw root adm mail dialout cdrom floppy audio src video plugdev May 31 14:27:27 Laibsch: heh heh May 31 14:27:28 hvontres|poodle: Yupp! May 31 14:27:55 Laibsch: and I am sure most of the people here have seen a serial cable before :) May 31 14:28:52 Laibsch: the thing I am still puzzled by is why sharp didn't just mount the connector the other way around so that the keyboard cover can still slide down... May 31 14:29:02 * * OE Bug 2406 has been created by rodrigo.vivi@gmail.com May 31 14:29:03 * * Build breaks when the user has a ~/.quiltrc file May 31 14:29:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 May 31 14:30:13 * Laibsch just learned from the manual that the serial cable will *NOT* waterproof the Z =-O May 31 14:30:19 OMG!!!11!!!!!11 May 31 14:32:27 That's disappointing, isn't it? May 31 14:32:51 no ip54? May 31 14:34:50 Laibsch: although I realised after saying I needed a spitz cable, as long as it works in C860/Collie thats good enough for the debug I need to do May 31 14:36:09 bye May 31 14:36:18 XorA: IIRC, they are all have the same pinout for serial May 31 14:36:49 hvontres|poodle: they do, but different voltages May 31 14:37:13 XorA: figures... May 31 14:38:09 XorA: but isn't the sharp cable one of those active ones? May 31 14:39:33 hvontres|poodle: well that was the tesk Laibsh is doing :-) May 31 14:39:40 s/tesk/test/ May 31 14:40:56 correcting: Trying to do May 31 14:41:05 And might not come around to today May 31 14:41:47 RP: could you have a quick look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2406 ? May 31 14:42:51 koen: http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/midlarge.png May 31 14:45:20 hvontres|poodle: I saw that, but bought http://www.questionablecontent.net/shirts/goodpoopin.png instead to hang in the bathroom ;) May 31 14:46:15 Laibsch: one thing to chck for is if the 3.3V suply on the connector (pin 11) is working. On poodle with a 2.6 kernel it is currently off. One way to check it is to set up your term program for 9600,n81 and reboot the Z you should see the sharp bootloader messages at least May 31 14:46:25 http://www.jephdraw.com/random/evolutionkillsbig.png is cute as well May 31 14:46:42 koen: yeah, I saw that at the top of the page..:) May 31 14:48:56 Crofton, I think I just understood: the uboot image is actually named vmlinux-2.6.20-omap1-omap5912osk-20070529073941.bin that's why I was confused May 31 14:49:12 heh May 31 14:49:32 that is the kernel image suitable for use by u-boot May 31 14:49:49 Crofton: isn't that name a bit short?? May 31 14:49:52 you keep saying u-boot, which was confusing me :) May 31 14:49:53 heh May 31 14:50:01 machine generated May 31 14:50:29 given OE can generate kernels for lots of machines, the name is clear May 31 14:50:33 morning May 31 14:50:44 I shorten it when I copy it to my tftpd directory :) May 31 14:53:46 Crofton: heh :) But you are only using 52 out of a possible 256 chars :) May 31 14:56:36 hvontres|poodle: I am really in a hurry (and should *not* be checking IRC ;-)) Can you shoot me a quick mail about that? May 31 14:56:44 I'll gladly check it on Sunday May 31 14:57:33 XorA: Thanks for see you. Seems to work fine. May 31 14:57:52 I'll do a quick test with the spitz now if I get at least some output May 31 14:58:07 Logging in did not succeed over the serial cable May 31 14:58:14 but would be nice in th future. May 31 14:58:25 "Unable to determine your tty name." May 31 14:59:30 Laibsch: np. May 31 15:00:16 hrw, RP, XorA: I do get the console output from the spitz on my serial cable May 31 15:00:22 It seems to work fine. May 31 15:00:41 Laibsch: woo woo, get posting :-) May 31 15:00:53 Laibsch: yay :) May 31 15:01:02 And I *AM* able to log into the spitz May 31 15:01:08 Not the collie, though! May 31 15:01:14 the real question is how the hell do you get that plastic out of the spitz May 31 15:01:18 Laibsch: 2.6 kernel? May 31 15:01:27 yes, self-compiled angstrom May 31 15:01:35 XorA: Yes, a real bitch May 31 15:01:52 Laibsch: and does plastic go back in after extraction? May 31 15:01:57 You should someone with sharp fingernails May 31 15:02:01 XorA: Yes May 31 15:02:04 * RP doesn't remember a problem with that... May 31 15:02:14 Laibsch: ah cool, I shall have to wait until I next go gothing May 31 15:02:20 And I hope it will come out a bit easier next time (although hopefully not too easy) May 31 15:02:23 * RP has sharp fingernails though :) May 31 15:02:46 Laibsch: The 2.6 collie serial might not work properly. same problem as poodle May 31 15:03:10 OK, hvontres|poodle. There you go. May 31 15:03:19 Probably broken on the collie, too. May 31 15:03:26 I'll test more on Sunday May 31 15:04:31 sharp fingernails are handy in case you misplace the openmoko guitar pick :) May 31 15:04:47 * XorA never got a guitar pick, stingy gits :-D May 31 15:26:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r120adbf5... 10/ (1 packages/binutils/binutils_2.17.bb): binutils 2.17: add avr32 patches May 31 15:32:27 re May 31 15:32:40 collie works with ce-170ts here in both directions May 31 15:33:34 koen: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2F1xXNoB3t8vM&ei=UepeRt_IDJbigQPwrNTVBA&usg=AFQjCNEvTOY4pH5zVVyWOj9s0EG4X6Q4eQ&sig2=6ZcAbsWEQjco8NybA9plOg May 31 15:34:51 time to kill some players in WFRP May 31 15:43:39 I have now a problem with u-boot: Uncompressing Kernel Image ... Error: inflate() returned -3 http://rafb.net/p/QCmavu28.html May 31 15:43:47 any ideas why ? May 31 15:44:05 theBrave: uImage? May 31 15:44:28 ? May 31 15:44:42 uImage you booted or zImage or bzImage? May 31 15:45:33 where I see it ? May 31 15:45:54 I used default setings May 31 15:48:41 linux.bin is gzipped then packed May 31 15:49:59 for uboot use 'make uImage' target during build of kernel May 31 15:51:42 * hrw goes to gym May 31 15:51:43 cu May 31 15:52:01 hrw|gone: bye May 31 16:00:47 lrg: huge ass thunder storm on way :-) May 31 16:01:21 * JPatrin-mac is envious May 31 16:01:59 JPatrin-mac: i just hope i make it to friends house before it hbitgs May 31 16:02:18 heh, of course May 31 16:02:21 XorA|gone: good luck :) May 31 16:02:46 * XorA|gone knew he shoulda worn his hat May 31 16:06:58 ok I changed KERNEL_IMAGETYPE to uImage in linux-omap1.inc. How can I ask to create the image once again. When I bitbake bootstrap-image, I does nothing ? May 31 16:07:14 (I don't want to rm-rf tmp) May 31 16:07:38 theBrave: bitbake linux-blah -c rebuild May 31 16:08:03 or bitbake virtual/kernel -c rebuild May 31 16:08:07 (usually) May 31 16:08:23 crap solid rain May 31 16:09:57 ok, its doing something May 31 16:25:36 theBrave, you are using OSK? May 31 16:25:39 I forget May 31 16:25:43 RP, Laibsch: collie serial works fine. May 31 16:26:09 thesing: Under 2.6 without patches? May 31 16:27:13 RP under the kernel OE builds for collie. I didn't test with vanilla kernels. May 31 16:27:31 thesing: 2.4 or 2.6 though? May 31 16:27:48 RP: 2.6 May 31 16:29:22 thesing: ok, cool :) May 31 16:29:53 RP: BTW are you going to update linux-rp to 2.6.21? May 31 16:31:05 thesing: 2.6.21 is already in poky May 31 16:31:29 thesing: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/linux/ May 31 16:31:39 it would be nice to have that in OE :) May 31 16:32:56 koen: Its only started working properly within the last few days ;-) May 31 16:33:28 that's why I didn't add it :) May 31 16:33:37 koen: I need to try and sort out some big defconfig conflicts with poky before merging May 31 17:07:09 RP: Did you have time to look at the uclibc-initial issue May 31 17:07:16 hi I'm trying to install my wifi pcmcia card on jornada's linux It's proxim WD-8421 its orinoco silver with agere chip I tired provided kernel modules but none of them worked airo atmel hermes hostap orinoco spectrum_cs wlags49_h1_cs or wlags49_h2_cs but none of them weren't used by anythning and my card didnt work with them can you help me? May 31 17:07:16 ? May 31 17:08:42 webblaster : i *think* agere have their own drivers/patch/something to work. not 100% sure though May 31 17:12:14 I think they have wlags module but I don't know how to compile modules for arm on my x86 can anybody do it for me? May 31 17:12:35 heres the page which can help http://questier.com/howto.html#Proxim May 31 17:23:29 thesing: I remember now. I got stuck at building sysvinit. May 31 17:23:36 MACHINE="collie" DISTRO="angstrom-2007.1-oabi" nice bitbake -c rebuild sysvinit fails May 31 17:24:00 schurig:Hi you said you use wlags driver from agere - I'd like to use it too but cant find it on net compiled for arm coz I dont have much experience in compiling that kind of stuff can you send it to me? I'll try if it works with my proxim wd-8421 wifi pcmcia card May 31 17:25:50 Laibsch: All I can say about this is: Thats no kernel problem ;) I'll try if It works here. May 31 17:28:16 thesing: /export/interim/openembedded/tmp/angstrom/work/collie-angstrom-linux/sysvinit-2.86-r34/temp/log.do_install.1376 May 31 17:28:27 thesing: The kernel compiled fine. May 31 17:28:33 But I cannot build an image May 31 17:28:41 I know I could just use the kernel May 31 17:28:52 But I have never done that May 31 17:29:19 thesing: The link I meant to post was http://paste.stgraber.org/1261 May 31 17:33:31 steliosk: No, I still don't understand what the problem is. Both bitbakes seem to do the same thing? May 31 17:36:01 * * OE Bug 2407 has been created by bugs.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz May 31 17:36:03 * * build of sysvinit fails in do_install May 31 17:36:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2407 May 31 17:56:02 * * OE Bug 2146 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by freyther@inf.fu-berlin.de May 31 17:56:04 * *  bad RPATH in mencoder/mplayer (QA build failure) May 31 17:56:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2146 May 31 19:09:30 what do we know about open source video codecs? May 31 19:10:04 Crofton some are good and some are bad :) May 31 19:10:19 ffmpeg is fast, but ugly and a bitch to program against, vlc has teh best h264 codec, gstreamer the nicest abstraction May 31 19:10:47 * chouimat find gstreamer ugly May 31 19:10:54 so guy in my lab is asking May 31 19:11:09 ones that work well on data with bit errors would be good :) May 31 19:19:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3f7bf15a... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_0.9.28.bb): uclibc 0.9.28: rearrange patches, add avr32 one May 31 19:24:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r554e3a4f... 10/ (1 classes/siteinfo.bbclass): siteinfo.bbclass: add rudimentary avr32 support May 31 19:24:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re4304820... 10/ (1 conf/machine/at32stk1000.conf conf/machine/atngw100.conf): May 31 19:24:24 at32stk1000.conf, atngw100.conf: add skeleton machine descriptions for the atmel avr32 boards May 31 19:24:24 * missing: kernel defconfigs and uclibc configs May 31 19:28:07 rootfs_tar_do_rootfs: command not found, that's after building angstrom, what am I missing? too old bitbake? May 31 19:28:29 using 1.6.6 May 31 19:31:45 yes May 31 19:31:52 use the 1.8 branch from svn May 31 19:33:53 roger that May 31 19:45:35 Laibsch: I just build an angstrom-console-image for collie from scratch without problems. May 31 19:51:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r68d66801... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): uclibc 0.9.28: add quick & dirty avr32 config May 31 19:52:02 that only leaves a patch to gcc and some site-info files for working avr32 support May 31 19:55:02 cool May 31 19:56:56 me only sees a gcc 4.0.4 patch for avr32 May 31 19:59:56 hmmm May 31 20:00:19 this company wants a fax stating I'm not using a devboard for military uses May 31 20:00:21 funny May 31 20:00:48 koen lol May 31 20:01:10 koen cool May 31 20:01:35 even the gpk dont forbid military uses May 31 20:01:39 gpl May 31 20:01:52 Check one: [ ] military [ ] commercial [ ] both May 31 20:01:55 does throwing an ipaq at someone count as military device? May 31 20:02:15 * koen is missing [ ] research [ ] fun May 31 20:04:40 ljp: only if the target is a military :) May 31 20:05:19 gah, I'm an idiot May 31 20:05:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6b20b4be... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc-0.9.28/avr32/uClibc.config): uclibc 0.9.28: replace avr32 config with an actual avr32 config.... May 31 20:06:24 the avr32 architecture manual is interesting May 31 20:06:36 * chouimat goes back to the pdf May 31 20:07:40 ~change 69 usd to eur May 31 20:08:07 50 May 31 20:08:45 that's pretty cheap May 31 20:09:03 koen I was close ... 51.28 May 31 20:09:21 http://www.atmel.com/dyn/products/tools_card.asp?family_id=682&family_name=AVR32+32%2Dbit+MCU%2FDSP&tool_id=4102 is $69 May 31 20:10:07 hmmm 73 cad ... May 31 20:10:53 koen how much ram? May 31 20:11:00 32mb iirc May 31 20:11:25 this could make a nice little firewall May 31 20:13:17 darn May 31 20:13:19 glibc 2.6 May 31 20:13:36 where? May 31 20:13:44 http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.6.tar.bz2 May 31 20:16:01 Hi all; I would like to close bug 1312 about libvncserver 0.8.2, as the .bb submitted in bug 2125 replaces 0.8.2 with 0.9 - which builds w/o problem (0.9.2 is in the pipeline) - is this OK? What procedure do I have to follow? May 31 20:16:16 koen anything new in it? May 31 20:16:19 sorry: 0.9.1 is in the pipe May 31 20:16:29 chouimat: no idea May 31 20:16:51 koen then look here http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/libc/NEWS?rev=1.176&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=glibc May 31 20:18:26 useless as usual.... May 31 20:18:59 NOTE: Unpacking /home/koen/OE/downloads/glibc-2.6.tar.bz2 to /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/work/armv5teb-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.6-r0/ May 31 20:22:21 that was easy May 31 20:22:26 all our patches still apply May 31 20:22:50 working? copied from the last 2.5 ? May 31 20:22:53 NOTE: package glibc-2.6-r0: task do_configure: completed May 31 20:22:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re86f2e85... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc_2.6.bb): glibc: add 2.6 May 31 20:23:15 ah even better :) May 31 20:23:33 we can't get rid of any patches? May 31 20:24:07 * ljp is amazed his build is still building May 31 20:29:03 zecke: welcome May 31 20:29:14 I'm without light at home... May 31 20:29:25 use your lcd May 31 20:29:47 zecke: so you have some light then ;) May 31 20:30:05 this headache is killing me May 31 20:30:06 cable tv is broken as well, internet didn't work until some seconds ago May 31 20:30:09 'night all May 31 20:30:30 somehow one fuse gets overloaded (immediately...) and I can't figure out why May 31 20:31:22 I'm trying to figure out how SRCDATE works with subversion, I set SRCDATE = "20070531" in my recipe, the most recent revision that it should grab is 33025, but instead it grabs 33018 May 31 20:31:41 what determines when SRCDATE gets cut off? May 31 20:31:46 it gtabs the beginning of the day, not the end May 31 20:31:48 jsheldon: your server timezone May 31 20:32:02 jsheldon: if you want to have revision 33025, why don't fetch that? May 31 20:32:09 SRCDATE = "now" May 31 20:32:11 ? May 31 20:32:57 well I want to be able to specify a known-stable time May 31 20:33:20 jsheldon: take a look at the BitBake manual, if it is wrong report a bug report May 31 20:33:40 I had assumed that setting SRCDATE to the current date it would grab the latest commits May 31 20:33:48 zecke: ok thanks May 31 20:33:49 jsheldon: Your server clock defines the time, if you want to a specific stable revision, fetch that.... and leave SRCDATE alone May 31 20:34:25 jsheldon: it asks the server to get 20070531... and this basicly means 20070531 and 0:0:0 May 31 20:36:30 a-ha, now I understand, I didn't notice that rev 33018 was the last revision from yesterday, makes sense May 31 20:37:09 now I wonder what happens if I set the date in the future... May 31 20:38:09 jsheldon: read the manual and report shortcomings to the bug tracker May 31 20:38:16 nope, it's too smart for me, it still used today's date May 31 20:38:24 zecke: will do, thanks May 31 20:38:27 otherwise we might just remove the bits of documentation we have... as no one is reading the, May 31 20:38:31 them even May 31 20:39:22 zecke: hehe May 31 20:51:12 polyonymous, so ... one more isp hating round :) May 31 20:51:23 Should I comment on it? :) May 31 20:51:40 polyonymous, no need for it ;) May 31 20:52:03 ah ok. I was under impression that it is what you were asking for :) May 31 20:52:11 I thought about letting my pcs run whole night and rebuild my OE tree ... but like this ... :E May 31 20:52:20 polyonymous, ;-) May 31 20:52:46 Marex, no automatic reconnect? May 31 20:53:07 polyonymous, thats not it ... I dont want to make nickflood May 31 20:53:21 ah. /quit? :) May 31 20:53:40 (on irc) and about OE ... it stops the download after certain number of fails May 31 20:54:39 OE should have something like `emerge -f` so that you can run fetch tasks for your stuff and then build it. May 31 20:54:59 I mean something similar to gentoo's `emerge -f` that is May 31 20:55:39 I mean ... I dont like gentoo :) May 31 20:55:51 polyonymous, do you feel like starting distro war here ? :D May 31 20:56:03 that has nothing to do with the issue in question. May 31 20:56:23 Of course not, I'd rather argue about vim vs emacs :) May 31 20:56:37 weee ,,,, that might be interesting :) May 31 20:56:43 emacs is great ... May 31 20:56:58 ... OS ... but it missed one important thing ... the kernel May 31 20:58:02 but misses one important thing - editor :) May 31 20:58:10 NOTE: package glibc-2.6-r0: task do_compile: completed May 31 20:58:14 this is too scary May 31 20:58:25 koen why? May 31 20:58:28 koen, tried running it yet? May 31 20:58:32 polyonymous, but you can play asteroids there ;) and tetris and ... what else :) May 31 20:58:44 koen, have you diffed it with 2.5? Maybe it's just a rename release:) May 31 20:58:59 Marex, I want to play vim there May 31 20:59:04 polyonymous: bitbake -c fetchall May 31 20:59:30 koen, aha! But s/polyonymous/Marex/ then :) May 31 20:59:32 polyonymous, maybe there is vim plugin for emacs ... but thats not important ;) May 31 20:59:52 koen, thanx mighty OE master :) May 31 21:00:19 and yes, now you should interpret my "OE should have" not as suggestion, but rather like assumption :) May 31 21:00:38 fetchall is a 1.8.x feature iirc May 31 21:00:50 inter-task dependencies and stuff May 31 21:01:29 koen, :) thanx May 31 21:02:31 thanks hrw and RP for it May 31 21:04:32 Do they both suffer from isps? :) May 31 21:08:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc6d27052... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): May 31 21:08:17 glibc-initial: add 2.6 May 31 21:08:17 glibc-intermediate: add 2.6 May 31 21:11:57 03polyonymous 07org.oe.dev * r2e1c605c... 10/ (1 packages/xqt2/xqt2_20060509.bb): xqt2: install into proper location. Closes #2100 May 31 21:13:02 * * OE Bug 2100 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by polyonymous@klever.net May 31 21:13:04 * *  xqt2 minor bug May 31 21:13:06 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2100 May 31 21:13:44 RP: is the first ':' needed in PATH =+ ":${EXTERNAL_TOOLCHAIN}/bin:" ? May 31 21:14:05 RP: external_toolchain.conf is mega-cool, btw May 31 21:14:39 koen, does OE compile under MacOS/PPC ? May 31 21:14:46 yes May 31 21:14:50 thanx :) May 31 21:15:03 is you have a case-sensitive filesystem May 31 21:16:30 koen, it's not my machine ;) but this can be probably easily solved ;) May 31 21:16:51 it's a checkbox in the format wizard May 31 21:17:23 'Disk Utility' or something like that May 31 21:17:26 koen, friend of mine just asked this to me so I passed it to expert ;) May 31 21:17:56 http://www.openembedded.org/buildonosx May 31 21:18:04 that might not be up-to-date May 31 21:18:09 but it's a wiki :) May 31 21:18:51 koen, ok .. Ill pass it to him :) thanx again May 31 21:21:27 "Customer certifies that the commodities, software, and/or technology will not be used, sold, re-exported or incorporated into products used directly or indirectly, in the design, development, production, stockpiling, or use of chemical or biological weapons, nuclear programs (including activities related to nuclear explosive devices, nuclear reactors, and nuclear fuel-cycle activities), missiles (including cruise and ballistic missile systems, space lau May 31 21:21:38 I should stop reading documents I sign May 31 21:22:38 I wonder if you were buying shampoo or potatos. May 31 21:23:20 koen hehehe May 31 21:27:57 NOTE: package gcc-4.2.0-r0: task do_unpack: started May 31 21:28:02 * koen crosses fingers May 31 21:28:08 Hi all, May 31 21:30:36 just come back to OE to try RPs patch. However just try to "start" the engine but ends up with ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf. May 31 21:31:11 ....and as usual I didn't change anything :D May 31 21:38:58 yay, gcc 4.2.0 needs one patch less May 31 21:39:51 Zuse: sounds like the OE metadata is not in the BBPATH? May 31 21:41:56 cbrake: sorry to bother you, just solved the problem. For some reason BBPATH was not set by the script. May 31 21:42:15 Zuse: great! May 31 21:43:57 For some reasons the script I copied from Angstrom website do not set the desired variables for me. Any ideas ? May 31 21:44:15 Zuse: can you point me to the script May 31 21:46:19 привет народ может есть кто русский? May 31 21:48:09 cbrake: http://pastebin.ca/526629 May 31 21:49:08 Zuse: are your source'ing the script, or running it May 31 21:49:47 Zuse: if you are running it, it will not set env variables. May 31 21:50:36 need to run -- later ... May 31 21:55:11 koen: so what are you not putting in your nuclear-powered space-launced chemical weapons platform? May 31 21:55:37 an avr32 board May 31 21:55:51 i was trying to get a price quote (shipping to europe and all) May 31 21:56:10 koen: awww shucks... there go our plans for OE powered WMD's May 31 21:56:16 did some of you saw the new palm-sweety already :) May 31 21:56:48 yes, I want one May 31 21:57:12 It would be great for traveling light and doing some computer work May 31 21:57:45 koen: Just to learn and to understand if there is a new platform what will be the tasks to create a distri from OE fro it? May 31 21:58:04 add a machine.conf and a kernel May 31 21:58:17 and maybe some config files for the xserver May 31 21:59:11 yay: NOTE: package gcc-4.2.0-r0: task do_patch: completed May 31 21:59:15 so, if there is a kernel to grab all the hardware together it seems to be "easy" right ? May 31 22:01:02 bah, I shouldn't be refreshing patches at midnight May 31 22:03:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78f88c31... 10/ (29 files in 3 dirs): gcc: add 4.2.0 with some refreshed patches, untested May 31 22:03:45 enough gnu fanboying for the day May 31 22:04:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r77ee40e4... 10/ (1 packages/gcc/gcc-cross_4.2.0.bb): gcc-cross: add 4.2.0 May 31 22:15:53 Zuse! yeah, its that easy... you might even manage it in a weekend May 31 22:17:48 timtimred: just asking because I fall in love with one of the e-ink devices from e.g. Sony. The "display" is really unbelievable great... May 31 22:18:29 timtimred: ...however pure e-book reading of DRM books are boring. Like to get a bit more linux-spice in it May 31 22:24:46 Zuse: which display specifically? May 31 22:37:45 koen: external_toolchain doesn't entirely work yet and needs some refinement ;-) May 31 22:38:12 koen: There is the small issue of the ipks and pkgdata being missing so images don't work May 31 22:38:32 I have faith it can be made to work though May 31 22:38:48 Does anyone use the OE: fields in packages? May 31 22:39:17 What I mean is, is anyone going to scream if I change the format? May 31 22:40:13 RP: not used in Unslung or SlugOS distros AFAIK May 31 22:41:09 mwester: The current format isn't machine parsable which is a big disadvantage as far as I can see May 31 22:41:30 mwester: Particularly when I need to parse it... :} May 31 22:42:33 Not really human-parsable either, or rather, not really human-comprehensible by end-users of the packages. I'm all in favor of machine-readable formats May 31 22:43:14 I'm thinking of PN [PE:]PV-PR May 31 22:44:17 re May 31 22:44:26 hi coredump May 31 22:44:39 CoreDump|home: greetings and salutations May 31 22:44:44 hi CoreDump|home May 31 22:45:54 CoreDump|home: I should have something for you to play with this weekend :) May 31 22:46:02 RP: You are still fit enough to guide me for catching the kernel, sorry but I just started with OE May 31 22:46:24 ups, patching May 31 22:46:32 hvontres|poodle: great =) May 31 22:46:42 CoreDump|home: is it possible ATM to use altboot on collie 2.6 to boot a 2.4 kernel and image from sd? May 31 22:46:44 Zuse: To patch it you should just need to add a line in the .bb file May 31 22:46:50 zecke: thank you for that youtube link w/ Linus @ google May 31 22:47:24 CoreDump|home: as koen pointed out there is a complete discussion on the monotone list May 31 22:47:33 hvontres|poodle: could your kexec changes be made to work on collie? May 31 22:47:44 Actually, the version field in the ipk is fine, we should just use PN for the OE filed, not the abomination that is P May 31 22:47:54 CoreDump|home: for 2.6 kernels, yes. May 31 22:47:55 CoreDump|home: kexec already works on collie May 31 22:47:57 zecke: I didn't read the full backlog May 31 22:48:24 thesing: vanilla altboot has no support for kexec, hvontres|poodle changed that IIRC May 31 22:48:37 thesing: 2.4 kenrnels use that EVIL sharp binary only SD driver, so I don't think so May 31 22:49:05 CoreDump|home: well, all I really did was add a nice wrapper to kecec -l .bin ; kexec -e :) May 31 22:49:22 RP: where do I put the patch file and which bbclass should I modify ? Again, I'm a newbie ;) May 31 22:49:28 hvontres|poodle: but could I use an ex2 image from cf ? May 31 22:49:45 Zuse: Which kernel are you using, 2.6.20? May 31 22:49:51 thesing: it is possible, just not easily May 31 22:49:53 hvontres|poodle: what package name for your wrapper? (I'm interested in what you've done!) May 31 22:50:19 thesing: that could work, but IIRC there was some issue with 2.6 screwing up the mtd pattitions for 2.4 May 31 22:50:50 mwester: I hope to have something ready by this weekend..:) May 31 22:51:23 mwester: currently, I am planning on releasing it as altboot-1.0.8+1.0.9_pre :) May 31 22:51:24 Zuse: Put the patch in openembedded/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.20 and add a line to openembedded/packages/linux/linux-rp_2.6.20.bb saying file://patchname.patch;patch=1 May 31 22:52:11 well, time for me to get going. May 31 22:52:28 RP: As far as I can see, the patch was made for 2.6.21 but I can only find 2.6.20 in my sources May 31 22:52:43 Zuse: It should apply and work against 2.6.20 May 31 22:53:08 RP: Thanks will try May 31 22:54:15 hvontres|poodle: will this release be able to do this or are some bits still missing? May 31 23:00:27 * thesing -> sleep May 31 23:00:28 cu May 31 23:06:30 RP: After applying the changing, a bitbake virtual/kernel should create a zImage for me rigtht ? May 31 23:17:09 good night Jun 01 01:19:58 ping **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jun 01 02:59:58 2007