**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 18 02:59:57 2007 Jun 18 05:20:07 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re9a3cba7... 10/ (1 packages/efl/etk_20060418.bb packages/efl/etk_0.1.0.003.bb): bump etk_20060418 to etk_0.1.0.003 Jun 18 05:20:12 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r2092115e... 10/ (1 packages/fbgrab/fbgrab-viewer-native_1.0.bb): add fbgrab-viewer-native Jun 18 05:20:18 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8a2ca07a... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gpsd: ship python-pygps package, including python bindings to gpsd Jun 18 05:20:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb35bb393... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): mkfontdir-*: beautify and add dependencies to mkfontscale Jun 18 05:33:51 does oe know about p4? Jun 18 05:34:31 what is p4? Jun 18 05:34:36 perforce Jun 18 05:34:38 ah Jun 18 05:34:41 don't think so Jun 18 05:34:54 then again, being out of the loop for some time... Jun 18 05:35:08 probably now, as I think it is expensive Jun 18 05:35:11 not Jun 18 05:53:13 perforce was mentioned during the big decision to use monotone Jun 18 05:53:53 morning' Jun 18 05:53:57 ~seen justinp Jun 18 05:54:03 justinp was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 20d 9h 9m 49s ago, saying: 'having problems with it?'. Jun 18 05:54:09 ~seen justin Jun 18 05:54:10 justin was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 14d 8h 45m 41s ago, saying: 'tarzeau: wrong justin'. Jun 18 05:54:26 can someone please help with this: http://pastebin.ca/raw/419856 ? Jun 18 05:54:46 ibot: botmail to justinp. I'm going to do a structural overhaul to EFL (not E though). please veto if you're currently working on it. Jun 18 05:57:04 yo mithro Jun 18 05:57:10 how are things? Jun 18 05:57:50 djay-il : probably you have forgot to set the machine in your local.conf Jun 18 05:58:01 good morning all Jun 18 05:58:38 hmm.. tosa's console keymap is borked as well Jun 18 06:00:00 steliosk: thanks, but no, I haven't forgot Jun 18 06:01:16 djay-il : something is missing in your local.conf. post it somewhere Jun 18 06:01:38 steliosk: ok, sec Jun 18 06:04:58 steliosk: http://pastebin.ca/573524 Jun 18 06:10:08 bummer Jun 18 06:10:12 still fails Jun 18 06:15:22 mickey|fic: hectic, got 2 really hard exams tommorrow :/ Jun 18 06:16:00 djay-il : is your BBPATH set correctly ? Jun 18 06:16:46 mithro: good lucK! Jun 18 06:16:49 mickey|fic: and they are the horribly boring subjects too :/ Jun 18 06:19:30 mickey|fic: and they are 2 of my last (ever) 3 exams - so I really need to pass them Jun 18 06:20:13 nod you better do then Jun 18 06:21:35 mickey|fic: what you been up too? Jun 18 06:23:06 after finishing ph.d, moving apartment took the lions share of April and May, but it's all done now. We even have a kitchen in the new apartment since last week ;) Continued working for OpenMoko, Inc. and I'm now in the 2nd week of a two-weeks meeting here in Taipei @ FIC Jun 18 06:23:39 mickey|fic: Taipei is pretty close to australia, you should drop by ;) Jun 18 06:24:24 yeah, halfway through from europe Jun 18 06:24:42 i need to go back for a while though. my wife can't stand much longer without me Jun 18 06:24:54 (which is a good thing after 7 years of marriage, i think) Jun 18 06:25:16 mickey|fic: get OpenMoko to send you to LCA2008! There will probably be a cool Embedded Miniconf Jun 18 06:27:23 well Jun 18 06:27:41 i'm travelling too much really Jun 18 06:27:55 s/really/lately/ Jun 18 06:32:26 LCA2008 is in Jan next year - long way off :) Jun 18 06:32:39 mickey: did you get my email? Jun 18 06:32:44 take the wife and make a holiday of it :P Jun 18 06:32:56 ljp: you attending LCA2008? Jun 18 06:33:04 perhaps Jun 18 06:33:53 ljp: yep, got it. Jun 18 06:40:01 * * OE Bug 2512 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 18 06:40:03 * * base-files has simpad-specific files Jun 18 06:40:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2512 Jun 18 06:54:01 * * OE Bug 2513 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 18 06:54:03 * * angstrom collie: can not start GPE Jun 18 06:54:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2513 Jun 18 07:01:55 * grma is back. Jun 18 07:21:46 hmm Jun 18 07:21:58 when is apple's next show? Jun 18 07:34:06 good morning all Jun 18 07:34:18 morning Jun 18 07:35:00 * koen|770 is having a slow day at work Jun 18 07:36:15 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8902495d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 18 07:36:15 initscripts 1.0: ramdisk: Don't bother to screw up randomly found mtdram partition. Jun 18 07:36:15 * In the sense, that at least try to make sure it's not completely mad. Though likely, Jun 18 07:36:15 scripts liek this should not be installed by default at all. Jun 18 07:36:19 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8beb78e4... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Jun 18 07:36:19 udev: Cut down default /dev tmpfs size from 10Mb to 2Mb, to preclude DoS. Jun 18 07:36:19 * Like ramdisk the stupid script spit tens of megabytes to a "device", Jun 18 07:36:21 without checking if it exists. Jun 18 07:36:23 * Generall, /dev should contains only devices, typical size - tens of Kb. Jun 18 07:36:25 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r39bc193a... 10/ (1 packages/udev/files/init): Jun 18 07:36:27 udev: Cut down default /dev tmpfs size from 10Mb to 2Mb, to preclude DoS. Jun 18 07:36:29 * Like ramdisk the stupid script spit tens of megabytes to a "device", Jun 18 07:36:33 without checking if it exists. Jun 18 07:36:35 * Generally, /dev should contains only devices, typical size - tens of Kb. Jun 18 07:36:39 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r1c519945... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): gpe-shield 0.9: Down with cryptic error messages. Jun 18 07:38:30 * mickey|fic restructuring EFL, checking whether all the binconfig madness is still necessary now that they moved to pkgconfig Jun 18 07:39:11 i suspect e*bbclass is obsolete now Jun 18 07:40:42 hopefully Jun 18 07:40:45 will see Jun 18 07:41:06 * koen|770 wants a decent mail client on his 770 Jun 18 07:43:08 koen|770: On the topic.. are there any decent mail clients for gpe? Jun 18 08:03:33 hey XorA Jun 18 08:04:20 yo koen|770 Jun 18 08:04:23 morning all Jun 18 08:04:33 koen|770: what wild part country you in today? Jun 18 08:06:42 morning all Jun 18 08:09:50 hi PR Jun 18 08:09:53 hi RP as well Jun 18 08:12:59 * RP gets bumped a lot :) Jun 18 08:14:21 only 268 revs this week, you lot were slacking while I was away :-) Jun 18 08:15:07 sure thing Jun 18 08:33:16 hi again Jun 18 08:33:23 steliosk: I believe I do Jun 18 08:58:18 steliosk: its a package image type problem, which is weird as it has to be defined in DISTRO Jun 18 09:01:07 XorA, close to home, mp chicks Jun 18 09:02:18 #2512 is nice Jun 18 09:03:10 he gets a ipkg conffile dialog and complains about it not being a conffile Jun 18 09:03:32 (the bug is real, but unrelated) Jun 18 09:06:05 time to ipkg upgrade :-D Jun 18 09:07:50 * XorA boggles at the patch system flame war Jun 18 09:08:02 that will break on iana-etc Jun 18 09:08:26 XorA, the usual rmk pms Jun 18 09:09:02 ~lart xchat for ',' instead of ':' Jun 18 09:09:02 * ibot whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that xchat is stuck to the floor for ',' instead of ':' Jun 18 09:15:00 good morning Jun 18 09:33:03 later Jun 18 10:09:01 * * OE Bug 2499 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 18 10:09:03 * *  Mplayers "pxa" driver fails to work on Spitz Jun 18 10:09:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2499 Jun 18 10:26:19 Good morning! Jun 18 10:26:24 yo Laibsch Jun 18 10:26:29 Wasn't minimo supposed to build? Jun 18 10:26:43 Laibsch: does here Jun 18 10:26:52 XorA: Slackers? Never. We just did not want you to return to an empty desk. Jun 18 10:26:58 OR even no desk at all ;-) Jun 18 10:27:06 Laibsch: no desk would be cool Jun 18 10:27:15 XorA: I get an error about configure: "error: zip not found in $PATH" Jun 18 10:27:19 missing dep? Jun 18 10:27:31 XorA: no desk means == you are fired Jun 18 10:27:39 Laibsch: maybe it needs DEPENDS += "zip-native" Jun 18 10:27:50 Laibsch: fired would be cool, Id get a years hols Jun 18 10:28:11 It always depends on the perspective, right ;-) Jun 18 10:28:35 Laibsch: my mortgage is insured, and my wife earns enough to support us :-) Jun 18 10:31:21 Well, then we'll be less considerate in the future :-D Jun 18 10:36:22 When is hrw supposed to return? Jun 18 10:37:49 * XorA didnt know he was missing Jun 18 10:38:00 hrw|gone Jun 18 10:38:25 And I think he said something about being gone for a few days Jun 18 10:38:30 but I might be wrong Jun 18 10:42:10 ~prob koen Jun 18 10:42:32 hmrm Jun 18 10:42:42 what did i break now? Jun 18 10:42:55 in order to succesfully complete 'angstrom-x11-image', I have to (locally) install gtk+-dev Jun 18 10:43:05 otherwise gqview fails Jun 18 10:43:18 * oxo thinks that there should be a gtk+_native or something like that Jun 18 10:43:24 koen|770: nothing, just thought you needed a bit of electricity Jun 18 10:43:45 oxo: patches welcome :-) Jun 18 10:43:56 yeah, I know :-) Jun 18 10:44:00 I will see if I can fix it Jun 18 10:47:32 BTW using kexec to boot a "SharpROM" installed in flash works on spitz :-) Jun 18 10:48:10 XorA: Awesome! Jun 18 10:48:12 Laibsch: hrw should be back tomorrow Jun 18 10:48:26 XorA: Can you write up a howto somewhere? Jun 18 10:48:29 RP: thanks Jun 18 10:48:37 Does anyone know how this Depends: dates-locale* is supposed to work? Jun 18 10:49:00 Does ipkg have some kind of magic handling of wildcards? Jun 18 10:51:26 hi RP, do you still remember the remove-sharps-dependency-from-corgi_bl patch (http://en.pastebin.ca/573942) - can I submit that to lkml or arm-kernel? Jun 18 10:52:17 pH5: I'm the correct person to submit that to. I'd like to do it slightly differently (but with the same result). I will take care of it Jun 18 10:53:45 pH5: Sorry about the delay on that. Its just a case of too many things and too little time :-( Jun 18 10:54:57 RP: ok, thanks! Jun 18 10:55:10 another question: is the pxa27x overlay driver pending for inclusion some time in the future? Jun 18 10:55:34 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r92ac8631... 10/ (1 packages/efl/etk_0.1.0.003.bb): etk 0.1.0.003 packaging and staging bugfixes Jun 18 10:55:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5c837530... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): add synaesthesia, a psychedelic audio player (from openmoko) Jun 18 10:55:43 pH5: Is someone rewrites it to complie with the bpp field, it should get accepted Jun 18 10:55:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcd60da39... 10/ (1 packages/mpg123 packages/mpg123/mpg123_0.66.bb): Jun 18 10:55:48 add mpg123, a console based mpg audio player Jun 18 10:55:48 NOTE: not based on libmad, using floating point algorithms Jun 18 10:55:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbcfbf5d3... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): direcfb 1.0.0 add patch to fix include files for depending programs Jun 18 10:55:58 mickey|fic: do you work on OE at OpenMoko? Jun 18 10:55:59 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd56afe7f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): mpg123+mpg321: rreplace and rconflict (with) each other Jun 18 10:57:16 mithro: yeah Jun 18 10:57:25 mickey|fic: cool Jun 18 10:57:32 mithro: lately i have been solely working on our OE overlay, but this changed recently. Jun 18 10:57:36 mithro: he is the guy we throw pies at Jun 18 10:57:38 so OE benefits more Jun 18 10:58:03 * mithro will be looking for a job in a few months :P Jun 18 10:58:15 mithro: what would you like to do? Jun 18 10:58:30 mickey|fic: any open source stuff would rock Jun 18 10:59:06 mithro: cool. ping me, when the time has come. i may have something OpenMoko related Jun 18 10:59:38 I'm actually thinking of spending a few months trying my hand at commercialising my honours project Jun 18 10:59:45 RP: great, I'll try to see and find enough time to understand that issue... Jun 18 10:59:56 I need to run the business plan numbers first however Jun 18 11:01:02 Oh, I surcummed to the dark side and started a blog too Jun 18 11:01:09 http://blog.mithis.net/ Jun 18 11:01:40 picture of my project -> http://blog.mithis.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/cfxs-try2.jpg Jun 18 11:01:54 XorA: "No package 'libIDL-2.0' found" I saw the libidl-native package is indeed in depends Jun 18 11:02:07 What happened? Jun 18 11:02:15 Laibsch: that looks like it needs libidl and libidl-native Jun 18 11:02:27 Those two are already in depends Jun 18 11:02:33 pH5: Basically, that patch said it supported things like bpp=19. Whilst it did have 19 bits per pixel, each pixel is actually 24 bits in size with some usused bits though. That patche's definition of bpp and the kernels/framebuffer layers are different Jun 18 11:02:48 XorA: Let me see if building them sepately solves this Jun 18 11:04:10 Laibsch: I only built it after building a lot of gnome stuff Jun 18 11:04:25 yes, they had not been built Jun 18 11:05:08 RP: Can it happen that a package declares DEPENDS = AB, but do_configure for the package already runs (and fails) before AB has been staged? Jun 18 11:05:53 Laibsch: It shouldn't Jun 18 11:05:53 mickey|fic: there is also the possibility of some SDR post grad work at Uni Jun 18 11:06:19 but for the moment I just need to get through these exams :/ Jun 18 11:06:30 RP: I think it just did for me with minimo Jun 18 11:06:50 I need to bake libidl and libidl-native separately Jun 18 11:07:32 Laibsch: Have a look at the task-depends.dot file from a run with bitbake minimo -g Jun 18 11:07:44 o, I have been trying to convert the blackfin/embedded asterisk (http://www.rowetel.com/ucasterisk/index.html) people to OE Jun 18 11:09:12 s/SDR/SDR Hardware design/ Jun 18 11:12:31 RP: I hate that output ;-) Is there something to display that in a nice, pleasant style? Jun 18 11:12:59 RP: Possibly indented and click-to-open Jun 18 11:13:10 click-to-open branches Jun 18 11:13:22 Laibsch: Its a standard .dot file. I've yet to find a viewer than can cope with it though Jun 18 11:13:44 * Laibsch does not know about the .dot standard Jun 18 11:13:51 Let me know if you find one. Jun 18 11:14:03 Laibsch: I've tried, believe me... Jun 18 11:14:03 * mithro should probably head to bed Jun 18 11:15:15 * Laibsch believes RP Jun 18 11:19:41 RP: "minimo.do_configure" -> "libidl-native.do_populate_staging" and "minimo.do_configure" -> "libidl.do_populate_staging" Jun 18 11:20:16 That means bitbake should complete do_populate_staging before do_configure for minimo, right? Jun 18 11:20:24 Laibsch: Correct Jun 18 11:20:35 Strange thing Jun 18 11:20:42 Since it did not do that here. Jun 18 11:20:55 re Jun 18 11:21:01 I will eventually rebuild and see if I run into the same trouble again Jun 18 11:31:53 hmm Jun 18 11:32:44 do we have a means to emit debug output for fine granular packing w/ do-split-packages ? Jun 18 11:33:34 RP: Just tried again. "bitbake -c clean libidl-native; bitbake minimo" does not build libidl-native first Jun 18 11:33:46 RP: I will set up a bug report so it does not get forgotten Jun 18 11:34:24 Laibsch: hmm. Not good :/ Jun 18 11:35:39 mickey|fic: Not without covering the class in print statements Jun 18 11:37:03 RP: ok, fair enough. guess i need to do that now Jun 18 11:42:53 ipkg wildcard in Depends handling is totally broken :-( Jun 18 11:43:50 Depends: glibc-locale* will stop is installing something like glibc-localedata-translit* as a dependency of some other package Jun 18 11:44:01 * * OE Bug 1178 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 18 11:44:03 * *  librsvg-2.11.1-r0 mozilla plugin depends on host include Jun 18 11:44:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1178 Jun 18 11:47:32 RP: you did the rootfs_deb thing, right? Jun 18 11:48:07 Jin^eLD: I was one of the people, yes Jun 18 11:48:48 RP: did you try it recently? I wonder if it works for you, I had no luck there Jun 18 11:50:01 Jin^eLD: What was the error? Jun 18 11:50:54 well, first it started with problems related to building apt-native, I went on fixing that Jun 18 11:51:05 but it seems that the whole configuration of apt/dpkg does not work out Jun 18 11:51:25 some conf files are not staged at all, some staged under wrong names Jun 18 11:51:35 Jin^eLD: Make sure you've using the latest bitbake 1.8 svn as that caused problems previously Jun 18 11:51:35 the further I got with fixing, the more problems appeared Jun 18 11:51:50 Jin^eLD: poky might have a specialised version of apt-native :/ Jun 18 11:52:03 RP: I am still on 1.6.8, so that could be a problem? Jun 18 11:52:12 Jin^eLD: It does work in poky, hrw tested it recently Jun 18 11:52:25 Jin^eLD: No,. 1.6 didn't have the problem I'm thinking of Jun 18 11:52:26 well actually I compared to poky and there were not much differences there... so I wondered how this could work at all... but I guess it does, since you guys are using it Jun 18 11:52:29 aah Jun 18 11:52:40 no, basically apt-ftparchive was not staged Jun 18 11:52:45 moment, afk 5 min Jun 18 11:53:55 Jin^eLD: If it helps, I was running on a debian box so perhaps it used some of my local tools :/ Jun 18 12:08:16 re Jun 18 12:08:24 RP: well, thats possible... Jun 18 12:08:40 RP: basically, in the end.. the conf was messed up in a way that apt was not able to put the packages on the rootfs Jun 18 12:09:00 I still went on hacking and got it to somewhat populate the rootfs, but since I am not a debian user my knowledge there was very limitd Jun 18 12:09:06 so it did not quite work out in the end Jun 18 12:09:22 Jin^eLD: All I can say is the version in Poky does work. The version in OE might not be 100% up to date Jun 18 12:10:17 RP: I tried building poky... and I was not able to, it failed at some point, I did not look into it any further since I was short on time Jun 18 12:10:49 I compared the .bb files for apt and I also compared the rootfs_deb class, tried bringing the differences from poky into OE but it did not help Jun 18 12:14:13 RP: btw thats how Poky failed for me http://pastebin.ca/574028 Jun 18 12:14:24 it was a checkout from hmm, friday I think Jun 18 12:15:24 time for an INHERIT += "auto-pastebin-error" bbclass :-D Jun 18 12:15:36 hey Xora :) welcome back Jun 18 12:18:21 Jin^eLD: What machine was that for? Jun 18 12:18:37 RP: let me check.. I hope I did not delete the whole tree yet Jun 18 12:19:08 TARGET_ARCH = "arm" Jun 18 12:19:14 MACHINE = "qemuarm" Jun 18 12:19:28 I just did source poky-init-build-env Jun 18 12:19:38 and thats it, wanted to see if rootfs_deb works there Jun 18 12:20:19 Jin^eLD: I've very surprised that happened since our automated test system does that all the time, as do our users and if that patch were broken, I'd hear about it :/ Jun 18 12:20:47 RP: well no idea really.. I just did svn co, sourced the env file and gave it a go Jun 18 12:20:54 I am on FC6 btw Jun 18 12:21:01 * * OE Bug 2515 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 18 12:21:03 * * kernel 2.6 on collie: ext3 support Jun 18 12:21:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2515 Jun 18 12:21:55 Jin^eLD: Did you use a local set of stored downloaded? Jun 18 12:21:59 downloads Jun 18 12:22:16 RP: no Jun 18 12:22:21 it did download everything itself Jun 18 12:25:17 Jin^eLD: I will try a test and see if I can reproduce... Jun 18 12:26:50 RP: k.. well, in the end I gave up my rootfs_deb crusade Jun 18 12:27:01 I guess I'll have to fix ipkg somehow :P Jun 18 12:27:14 was trying deb only due to a weird bug in ipkg that I was experiencing Jun 18 12:27:25 Jin^eLD: ipkg is broken too? Jun 18 12:28:24 RP: no, not in that way Jun 18 12:29:31 thats my ipkg problem: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2461 Jun 18 12:29:44 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rfc6f2afd... 10/ (1 packages/jards packages/jards/jards_1.0.bb): Jun 18 12:29:44 jards: add to OE Jun 18 12:29:44 * reference and training tool for students of Japanese Jun 18 12:29:44 * spaced repition with flash cards Jun 18 12:29:49 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r73e558bb... 10/ (1 packages/unionfs/unionfs.inc): unionfs: update SRC. Fixes unfetchable source. Jun 18 12:53:12 Can I add extra dirs to BBFILES in local.conf like BBFILES = ".../build/packages/*/*.bb .../org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb" Jun 18 12:54:52 pelle2004, I think that's the point of having BBFILES. Jun 18 12:56:40 polyonymous, OK then I try to figure out why it don't work Jun 18 12:57:08 do try ;-) I haven only used that long ago and back then it worked. Jun 18 13:23:07 morning Jun 18 13:36:49 would wine be possible on oe? Jun 18 13:37:22 dcordes: yeah but after 3/4 bottles the commands get a bit blurry Jun 18 13:37:23 Anything is possible.. the effort to realise it, however.. Jun 18 13:37:32 haha ^^ Jun 18 13:38:09 XorA: how was your holiday? Jun 18 13:38:26 dcordes: it rocked Jun 18 13:38:31 nice to hear Jun 18 13:38:46 dcordes: many joints smoked, sex shows visited and strong beers drank Jun 18 13:39:14 interesting Jun 18 13:40:42 and spacecakes eaten Jun 18 13:42:34 that's rediulous- making holiday just for drugs :( Jun 18 13:43:06 indeed, you don't need holidays for it. Jun 18 13:43:52 in fact, it's the other way around - you take drugs et voila - you have a holiday Jun 18 13:43:59 heh heh Jun 18 13:44:07 also did lots of sight seeing Jun 18 13:44:24 but why go to amsterdam and not partake in their sensible laws Jun 18 13:44:52 XorA: ^^ I thought you were kidding Jun 18 13:45:15 He's got no sense of humour. Jun 18 13:45:36 English humour doesn't count, does it? Jun 18 13:46:19 XorA: the rt73 module turned out to be working perfectly after a week of intense testing on akita :) Jun 18 13:46:25 dcordes: sorted Jun 18 13:46:44 you see? and you say drugs aren't good for rt73 modules. Jun 18 13:47:27 bitbake spacecake Jun 18 13:48:06 Jin^eLD: I can't reproduce that failure and I tried from scratch with fresh downloads etc Jun 18 13:48:25 "I went to Amsterdam why my family and all I got was a joint a this loosy tshirt" Jun 18 13:48:28 don't bake them too long Jun 18 13:49:09 he bakes it just a 'bit', didn't you notice? Jun 18 13:49:17 heh Jun 18 13:49:42 hi, all! Jun 18 13:49:49 ~seen psokolovsky Jun 18 13:50:02 * polyonymous is gone Jun 18 13:50:09 yay, my house is worth at least 20,000 GBP more than when I bought it Jun 18 13:50:10 psokolovsky was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 19h 55m 22s ago, saying: 'pH5: yeah, but what I mean is that it would be nice to test how kernel will work w/o wince with haret itself. For example, I don't see "poke" type command in h4000 bootloader description...'. Jun 18 13:58:59 XorA: how come? Jun 18 13:59:14 dcordes: house prices going up in my area Jun 18 14:02:19 XorA: I thought you brought so many cookies that the worth of your house increased Jun 18 14:03:31 dcordes: if I had a ganja farm in my house its value would certainely increase, but the interest from police would also :-( Jun 18 14:06:45 koen: so, hx4700's flash issues with .21 should be solved now. I'd like to upgrade all hh.org ports to .21-hh8 for angstrom, as we discussed. Jun 18 14:07:33 hmm Jun 18 14:07:38 ~lart do_split_packages Jun 18 14:07:38 * ibot hauls do_split_packages up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles Jun 18 14:08:05 XorA: where did you live? Jun 18 14:08:12 dcordes: Scotland Jun 18 14:08:15 do sorry Jun 18 14:08:24 (said in my best Braveheart voice) Jun 18 14:08:29 ^^ Jun 18 14:13:33 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r62e5c964... 10/ (13 files in 13 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6: Update defconfigs for 2.6.21-hh8 (defconfigman r291). Jun 18 14:17:24 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9156f7c1... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): Jun 18 14:17:24 angstrom-2007.1.conf: Set linux-handhelds-2.6 version for all related machines to 2.6.21-hh8 Jun 18 14:17:24 * After resolving MTD issues with hx4700, the latest is the best version to Jun 18 14:17:24 use, having good support for the large machine base. Jun 18 14:17:38 ~hail pfalcon Jun 18 14:17:39 * ibot bows down to pfalcon and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 18 14:18:36 hey rwhitby-n800 Jun 18 14:20:46 can angstrom be built for uclibc? Jun 18 14:21:15 should work fine for some archs now Jun 18 14:21:19 not for all yet IIRC Jun 18 14:21:31 thx Jun 18 14:34:31 Good afternoon Jun 18 14:34:44 hi sirfred Jun 18 14:39:16 pH5: Hello Jun 18 14:40:16 summer timetable at job, great! Jun 18 14:42:01 * * OE Bug 2516 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 18 14:42:03 * * Collie 2.6: bulk writing to SD gets stuck Jun 18 14:42:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2516 Jun 18 14:42:16 sirfred: hot chicks? Jun 18 14:42:20 hey sirfred Jun 18 14:42:50 XorA: What are chicks? Sorry for mi primitive english. Jun 18 14:42:58 sirfred: girls Jun 18 14:42:59 mickey|fic: Hi, mickey Jun 18 14:43:13 XorA: Well, not around me now. Jun 18 14:43:40 XorA: The weather is still a little unstable here (NW of Spain) and I prefer it to stand this way, honestly. Jun 18 14:43:47 sirfred: that is the trouble in scotland also, summer isnt hot enough to brinch them out Jun 18 14:43:58 s/brinch/bring/ Jun 18 14:44:00 XorA: ;-) Jun 18 14:44:12 XorA: I can't stand hot,anyway Jun 18 14:44:25 XorA: No double sense intended. Jun 18 14:44:28 sirfred: nor can I, I almost died in Benidorm last year Jun 18 14:44:50 XorA: I've lived in Madrid for 10 years, and man, that's Hell more than summer Jun 18 14:45:04 hmmm Jun 18 14:45:11 sirfred: time to invent aircon for clothes Jun 18 14:45:11 Open Source In Mobile 2007 is in Madrid Jun 18 14:45:37 d'oh, this do_package_split is one nasty bit of function :/ Jun 18 14:45:39 mickey|fic: I thought you german dudes were immune to heat as long as there was a sun lounger :-D Jun 18 14:45:52 XorA: pretty much, ya :D Jun 18 14:46:10 XorA: A lot of germans enjoy toasting themselves in Mallorca and so Jun 18 14:46:19 So, they are ready Jun 18 14:46:22 not me, i take care about my skin Jun 18 14:46:57 mickey|fic: Well made. Some really looks like red-skins Jun 18 14:47:26 this sound awful ... toasted germans .... Jun 18 14:47:40 chouimat: Well, with a good sauce... Jun 18 14:48:03 XorA: As it seems you're the only one interested, I've released a new xserver-kdrive-imageon Jun 18 14:48:05 hey folks, how do I use an alternative server for updates? Jun 18 14:48:16 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r0ff974ee... 10/ (14 files in 14 dirs): linux-handhelds-2.6 2.6.21: Enable mtdram module, useful for mounting jffs2 images. Jun 18 14:48:31 sirfred: I saw, I unfortuneately am thinking of selling the C860 as I never use it except to test your Ximageon Jun 18 14:48:34 XorA: I suppose only you and me are using it. Expect a little better performance, and less artifacts with some overlay positions. Jun 18 14:48:45 XorA: Well, that seems reasonable. :-) Jun 18 14:49:01 * * OE Bug 2517 has been created by  Jun 18 14:49:03 * * update "packages/classpath/classpath.inc" Jun 18 14:49:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2517 Jun 18 14:49:08 sirfred: its puzzling as at one point everyone wanted to play DivX Jun 18 14:49:17 So, the only user that remains is me Jun 18 14:49:23 sirfred: I guess they all moved on to some other pr0n viewer Jun 18 14:49:25 sirfred: http://www.road-kill-cafe.com/roadkill.html Jun 18 14:49:51 XorA: Sure, you can get a pocket video player for little money, I suppose. Jun 18 14:50:06 chouimat: XD Jun 18 14:50:18 sirfred: Ive got a gp2x that plays video nicely and is better shape for holding in train Jun 18 14:50:43 XorA: Yes, I know I would spend less time just switching to a better hardware. Jun 18 14:51:01 * * OE Bug 2518 has been created by  Jun 18 14:51:03 * * update "packages/classpath/classpath-minimal-native_0.93.bb " Jun 18 14:51:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2518 Jun 18 14:51:06 sirfred: I got it for retro gaming, video was just an unexpected bonus Jun 18 14:51:19 XorA: To say the truth, I really enjoy more trying to make this work than using it actually Jun 18 14:51:35 XorA: Have you tested the 320x240 mode? Jun 18 14:51:56 XorA: I've released a frontend for the snes9x, (gpe-snes), that is able to change the screen res using xrandr. Jun 18 14:51:59 sirfred: no, Ill see if I can give it a go before I sell it :-) Jun 18 14:52:09 XorA: Great supermario time. Jun 18 14:52:35 XorA: Just bitbake gpe-snes, snes9x and get some roms. Jun 18 14:52:51 hmm what's this aux_pattern for ? Jun 18 14:53:02 That emulator works very well on the zaurus, perhaps you change your mind ;-) Jun 18 14:53:11 sirfred: thank you. I'll have to install that ;-) Jun 18 14:53:19 sirfred: I mght have found every snes rom ever by accident on bittorrent one day :-) Jun 18 14:53:22 Hey, a new user. :-) Jun 18 14:53:51 XorA: you wouldn't happen to accidently have a link to that torrent? Jun 18 14:53:52 Zero_Chaos: What hardware are you on ? Jun 18 14:53:59 XorA: that you might accidently pm me... Jun 18 14:54:01 sirfred: akita Jun 18 14:54:15 Zero_Chaos: It should work fine on that. Make me know. Jun 18 14:54:23 I think what we need to do is get that angstrom release out the door and then have a show-case thread of the cool things you can do with it. Just like the pdaxrom people have with their "new software annoucement" thread Jun 18 14:54:34 * mickey|fic agrees Jun 18 14:54:44 And you will see a big increase inusage of anything video/media related Jun 18 14:54:58 Laibsch: That's probably a good idea. Jun 18 14:55:03 The problem really is that even me I don't know about 99% of the nuggets that are available Jun 18 14:55:09 no working 320x240 mode on akita though Jun 18 14:55:31 My "recommend software" page on the OZ wiki was an attempt at that Jun 18 14:55:32 But I think that if the distro installs by default a media player, ... people would be aware of automatically Jun 18 14:55:40 But not many people picked up adding their own stuff Jun 18 14:55:54 ~lart missing keys above the screen on htc magician, my devices are unuseable for snes emulation. Jun 18 14:55:55 * ibot moos at missing keys above the screen on htc magician, my devices are unuseable for snes emulation. Jun 18 14:55:55 Unfortunately, not all the machines have enough space to install everything Jun 18 14:55:55 sirfred: There is always the question of size Jun 18 14:56:02 Laibsch: Yes, I agree Jun 18 14:56:16 I'd rather go for "minimal install, network connection, working feed with everything you want" Jun 18 14:56:29 XorA: No 320x240? No imageon 100 inside? Jun 18 14:56:35 sirfred: pxafb Jun 18 14:56:49 so it won't work? Jun 18 14:56:51 Zero_Chaos: Excuses, forget about xserver-kdrive-imageon Jun 18 14:57:03 sirfred: can do 320x240 but needs kdrive to know how to change mode on Xfbdev Jun 18 14:57:20 sirfred: so built gpe-snes snes9x and xserver kdrive-imageon? Jun 18 14:57:24 sirfred: I got it almost working then lost the code Jun 18 14:57:39 Zero_Chaos: It's not going to work on your framebuffer, it is w100 specific Jun 18 14:57:49 XorA: That's pitty Jun 18 14:58:00 sirfred: does your code use fbdev to change res? Jun 18 14:58:07 XorA: Yes. Jun 18 14:58:08 bummer Jun 18 14:58:17 sirfred: I should be able to crib it then :-D Jun 18 14:58:31 XorA: For sure, the only tricky thing is the rotation stuff Jun 18 14:58:42 sirfred: not tricky, pxafb cant rotate Jun 18 14:59:01 XorA: So, it would be using the software rotation in fbdev Jun 18 14:59:07 sirfred: yeah Jun 18 14:59:07 XorA: Less problems. Jun 18 14:59:28 sirfred: cool, I shall have to investigate Jun 18 15:00:20 XorA: It's simple. Take a look at W100SetFbMode in imageon_support.c Jun 18 15:00:44 Just a ioctl call Jun 18 15:01:15 You also will need to expose the available sizes via randr Jun 18 15:01:19 And little more Jun 18 15:02:24 I've seen some activity in enligthment recently. I'm getting curious about how it should look on the zaurus Jun 18 15:03:00 angstrom-e-image fails right now, starts trying to build glibc-2.3.2 for some pot smoking reason Jun 18 15:03:05 I'm not very happy with matchbox/gpe honestly. I think it's not ready for a hi-res pda Jun 18 15:03:07 RP: hmm, zaurusd relies on busybox ps output format :-( Jun 18 15:03:39 Anyway, what Poky people have, looks promising Jun 18 15:03:55 Still too unstable the last time I tried it. Jun 18 15:04:07 Does bitbake not store a do_patch log or am I too dumb to find it? Jun 18 15:05:02 Zero_Chaos: I think it doesn't Jun 18 15:05:26 Zero_Chaos: configure, compile, install, stage are the ones I'm used to see. Jun 18 15:06:03 that's what I thought... so how do I check proper success of a patch? it compiles fine, but doesn't seem like the patch is applied.... Jun 18 15:06:10 and there is no output to confirm. Jun 18 15:07:01 * * OE Bug 2519 has been created by  Jun 18 15:07:03 * * update "packages/classpath/classpath-gtk_cvs.bb" Jun 18 15:07:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2519 Jun 18 15:07:26 Zero_Chaos: it will display after the Unpacking message what patches are applied Jun 18 15:07:52 Zero_Chaos: If some patch fails, your build will fail also. Jun 18 15:07:58 XorA: I know, and it displays. Jun 18 15:08:13 it claims success but the patched funtionality doesn't work.... Jun 18 15:08:13 Zero_Chaos: then it applied Jun 18 15:08:20 but I know it's not the patch. Jun 18 15:08:36 Zero_Chaos: You can dig into the .pc and patches directories and with the quilt utility, to see the changes, etc. Jun 18 15:09:16 thanks Jun 18 15:09:33 A little weird, the flag -s (silent) of oe_libinstall really does the opposite Jun 18 15:09:58 -s Shouting Jun 18 15:10:09 XorA: Good fix. :) Jun 18 15:13:31 XorA: I didn't know about this gp2x thing. It looks fine. Jun 18 15:13:58 sirfred: it just needs a good GPL 2.6 kernel done :-D Jun 18 15:14:21 XorA: How much did you paid for it? Jun 18 15:14:32 sirfred: 120 GBP if I recall right Jun 18 15:14:50 Not bad Jun 18 15:15:10 sirfred: megadrive emulation is awesome Jun 18 15:15:16 sirfred: snes is a little behind Jun 18 15:15:29 XorA: Opensource emulators? Jun 18 15:15:31 hi everybody Jun 18 15:15:43 And tv-out Jun 18 15:16:03 sirfred: mostly opensource Jun 18 15:16:16 sirfred: tv-out works nice, its just like using an old megadrive :-D Jun 18 15:16:19 Only 320x240. Jun 18 15:16:36 Screen hardware? Dumb framebuffer? Jun 18 15:16:50 sirfred: accellerated and hardware mpeg4/2 Jun 18 15:16:57 XorA: Two arm cores Jun 18 15:17:28 XorA, sirfred: What are you talking about? Jun 18 15:17:29 "Battery life varies depending on the type of activity being performed and can last anywhere from 10 minutes (using alkaline batteries) to over 6 hours (using high-capacity NiMH batteries)." Jun 18 15:17:32 omg, 10 minutes. Jun 18 15:17:41 thesing: XorA gp2x Jun 18 15:17:56 * XorA gets at least 6 45 minutes episode on a set of NiMH batteries Jun 18 15:18:08 depending on speed I run the core at Jun 18 15:18:14 XorA: Not bad. Jun 18 15:25:18 is there a NES emulator for the zaurus right now? Jun 18 15:27:11 Zero_Chaos: there is. Jun 18 15:28:10 thesing: what's it called? Jun 18 15:28:14 if we could persude them to release source for psx4all there is even a usable psx emulator Jun 18 15:28:24 =) Jun 18 15:28:25 Zero_Chaos: I'm not sure which emulator I used, but I think it was nester. Jun 18 15:28:32 XorA: yeah I know, I'm made about that Jun 18 15:28:38 XorA: pdaXrom has it... Jun 18 15:28:46 s/made/mad Jun 18 15:29:57 gba emulator for gp2x would work well ported as well, and there is source for that Jun 18 15:30:03 XorA: which mega drive emulator do you use on gp2x? Jun 18 15:30:08 thesing: picodrive Jun 18 15:30:51 snes for angstrom would be great Jun 18 15:31:01 * * OE Bug 2520 has been created by skliarieh(AT)gmail.com Jun 18 15:31:03 * * angstrom collie: console blank is not reversible Jun 18 15:31:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2520 Jun 18 15:31:11 if pdaXrom has psx4all why can't we have it? Jun 18 15:31:23 can we at least intall it some how? Jun 18 15:31:24 dcordes: You have snes9x Jun 18 15:31:39 does it run on desktop machines too? I haven't found any fast/usable megadrive emulators yet. Jun 18 15:31:42 dcordes: It works pretty good on my c760 Jun 18 15:31:50 Zero_Chaos: you should be able to just install it if its available for newest pdaXrom Jun 18 15:31:59 Zero_Chaos: they use a compatible gcc/glibc with us Jun 18 15:32:06 sirfred: do you mean snes9x-sdl from the repo or that snes9x-gpe? Jun 18 15:32:09 akita here Jun 18 15:32:15 XorA: I'd rather it was open source, but I would also like to play ;-) Jun 18 15:32:18 dcordes: snes9x-sdl Jun 18 15:32:39 I will try that Jun 18 15:32:42 dcordes: You can also try a frontend I added some time ago, gpe-snes. Jun 18 15:33:07 dcordes: It needs some love, but it works. Jun 18 15:33:09 sirfred: but that's not in the feeds right? Jun 18 15:33:19 dcordes: Yes it is Jun 18 15:33:23 can't find Jun 18 15:33:37 dcordes: bitbake gpe-snes ? Jun 18 15:33:47 packages/gpe-snes/gpe-snes_0.2.bb ? Jun 18 15:33:53 sorry I meant the angstrom repos Jun 18 15:34:05 dcordes: Talking about .dev, sorry Jun 18 15:35:01 It seems that autotools_stage_all only stages libraries located in the lib directory. Jun 18 15:35:19 What's the best solution for something like gstreamer, with libs in 'lib' and also in lib/gstreamer-$version ? Jun 18 15:36:18 I'm afraid that perhaps replicate all that stuff in a do_stage function, with the changes to look into the lib/gstreamer-$version or is there any other commonly used way ? Jun 18 15:36:18 XorA: isn't picodrive for pocket pc and doesn't the gp2x run linux? Jun 18 15:36:40 sirfred: replicate it. it's too uncommon to come up w/ something more common yet imo Jun 18 15:37:06 * sirfred coredumps Jun 18 15:37:27 Too much nested commons Jun 18 15:37:39 mickey|fic: I will try that way. Thanks. Jun 18 15:37:43 thesing: http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?showtopic=36234 Jun 18 15:38:02 ERROR: No buildable providers available for required build target gpe-snes Jun 18 15:38:59 due to it DEPENDING on libgpe I think Jun 18 15:39:24 XorA: Is that a problem? Jun 18 15:39:43 libgpelaunch/ libgpepimc/ libgpeplugin/ libgpevtype/ libgpewidget/ I cant see a libgpe Jun 18 15:40:50 re Jun 18 15:41:00 yo koen Jun 18 15:41:31 XorA: It used to build properly. Perhaps something has changed. Jun 18 15:42:10 I see a lot about over clocking the akita to 600+ mhz, can this be done in Angstrom? is this a terrible idea? Jun 18 15:42:22 XorA: I'm going to try. Jun 18 15:43:36 sirfred: Ive only got a gpe-snes_0.1.bb have you a newer one you forgot to push? Jun 18 15:43:45 I would like to try that with my akita too since the video playback is so slow Jun 18 15:44:06 XorA: I have a 0.2, perhaps I forgot to open a bug. Jun 18 15:44:07 dcordes: use mplayer -vo pxa -vm -fs blah.avi Jun 18 15:44:22 sirfred: open a bug? you can just push it :-) Jun 18 15:44:24 XorA: what does that make with playback? Jun 18 15:44:31 XorA: Not when I made it. :-) Jun 18 15:44:32 * dcordes making a fat note Jun 18 15:44:45 XorA: And perhaps I thought that someone pushed it. Jun 18 15:44:47 dcordes: uses the accellerated pxa overley to playback at 320x240 at nice speed Jun 18 15:44:51 XorA: I'm going to check it, and push it. Jun 18 15:44:56 nice Jun 18 15:46:34 Are there any style conventions for shell functions in bb files ? Jun 18 15:46:44 Tabs vs spaces? Jun 18 15:46:50 Indent width ? Jun 18 15:47:42 XorA: that's what I've been looking for! Is there some list with which packages required to playback which media type? Jun 18 15:48:07 dcordes: mplayer should play back pretty much anything Jun 18 15:49:29 anyway enough fun train to catch Jun 18 15:49:42 XorA|gone: later Jun 18 15:49:49 so about overclocking? no? Jun 18 15:54:31 Zero_Chaos: did you hear about that psx4all emu? Jun 18 15:55:27 dcordes: I was the one that mentioned it at the start of this conversation today ;-) Jun 18 15:55:34 that's why I'm wondering about overclocking Jun 18 15:57:52 I didn't read the whole of the chat log Jun 18 15:58:17 but I heard that snes9x is closed source and only available for few systems Jun 18 15:59:01 * * OE Bug 2521 has been created by  Jun 18 15:59:03 * * update packages/classpath/classpath-gtk_0.93.bb Jun 18 15:59:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2521 Jun 18 15:59:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r82dfa1a7... 10/ (1 packages/flumotion/flumotion_0.4.1.bb): flumotion: more depends, enough to get the config gui on the screen Jun 18 15:59:31 03sirfred 07org.oe.dev * r757b72f7... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jun 18 15:59:31 gpe-snes: Added new package 0.2 Jun 18 15:59:31 Deleted old package 0.1 Jun 18 16:17:28 Buf, finally, I got the gstreamer QA issues out Jun 18 17:04:46 does anyone have any idea as to why /var/log/wtmp would grow to over 60MB+ in an OE image? Jun 18 17:05:34 as far as I can tell, /var/log/wtmp is used to write logins, but there's no way that enough logins are taking place to generate a file that large Jun 18 17:09:23 jsheldon: What the command 'last' says ? Jun 18 17:09:45 sirfred: very few lines, no more than 50 Jun 18 17:10:42 jsheldon: Mine is 16Kb, with 22 entries Jun 18 17:11:34 sirfred: mine is 175k with 3 entries Jun 18 17:12:10 jsheldon: I have no idea of what could be the problem. Perhaps any other process writing to that file, or the filesystem corrupted? Jun 18 17:12:53 jsheldon: What du -h says on that directory ? Jun 18 17:13:23 sirfred: yeah that's pretty much my conclusion too Jun 18 17:13:40 sirfred: du -h on /var/log says 643.0k Jun 18 17:13:54 jsheldon: While ls says 60 Mb ? Jun 18 17:14:53 sirfred: oh sorry, I forgot I had to delete it on this box because it had gotten so big, I'll find another one with the same problem... Jun 18 17:15:32 jsheldon: Just guessing, but perhaps it is a 'holed' file, and it does not uses the size it seems to have. But I'm not sure. Jun 18 17:16:04 sirfred: interesting, in the time we've been talking it's gone up to 186k on this box Jun 18 17:16:31 jsheldon: So, perhaps your filesystem is corrupted in some weird way. Jun 18 17:17:01 sirfred: ok that is a possibility Jun 18 17:17:11 sirfred: thanks for the input Jun 18 17:17:17 jsheldon: You're welcome Jun 18 17:31:53 Having an strange error using uris with patch entries. Is there any recent change in that URI format ? Jun 18 17:32:26 Applying patch cross-compile.patch Jun 18 17:32:26 patch: **** Can't find file 1 : No such file or directory Jun 18 17:32:44 Where the URI is something like: Jun 18 17:33:09 SRC_URI = "http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/${PN}/${PN}-${PV}.tar.bz2 \ Jun 18 17:33:10 file://armv5.patch;patch=1" Jun 18 17:45:01 * * OE Bug 2519 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Jun 18 17:45:03 * *  update "packages/classpath/classpath-gtk_cvs.bb" Jun 18 17:45:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2519 Jun 18 17:46:01 * * OE Bug 2519 has been REOPENED by Jun 18 17:46:03 * *  update "packages/classpath/classpath-gtk_cvs.bb" Jun 18 17:46:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2519 Jun 18 17:55:10 Where is the best place to document a potential target for ASSUME_PROVIDED Jun 18 17:55:43 IOW, I just added a virtual/java-native providee that is only necessary when there is no java package installed Jun 18 17:56:02 Is there a list anywhere that one could go through to which I should add this? Jun 18 18:11:33 OK, I could not find anything Jun 18 18:11:55 And therefore I started a little list of my own (so far 1 entry!!) Jun 18 18:11:57 http://www.openembedded.org/advancedconfiguration Jun 18 18:37:37 * chouimat is bored Jun 18 19:00:01 * * OE Bug 2522 has been created by  Jun 18 19:00:03 * * classpath could be upgraded to 0.95 Jun 18 19:00:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2522 Jun 18 19:16:01 * * OE Bug 2523 has been created by  Jun 18 19:16:03 * * OE needs a native java package Jun 18 19:16:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2523 Jun 18 19:18:25 zap: Hi. ;) Jun 18 19:18:46 xl0: long time no see ;) Jun 18 19:19:10 zap: I knew I've seen your nick somewhere. ;) Jun 18 19:30:13 Laibsch: you are right about the Satzung Jun 18 19:30:40 Laibsch: even worse you will have to draft it, talk with the finance authorities if you would be elligible to tax exemption, etc Jun 18 19:40:12 zecke_: if needed I can jump on the train and be in berlin after ~6 hours Jun 18 19:43:19 that sounds like the legendary frikandel expres Jun 18 19:43:53 koen: well, I hope to get a good answer from florian/joey Jun 18 19:43:58 lekker! Jun 18 19:45:26 * zecke_ is hungry, his fridge is empty... Jun 18 19:45:45 zecke_: order a pizza Jun 18 19:46:18 Anybody interested in java around here? Jun 18 19:46:31 in a mug? Jun 18 19:47:09 chouimat: You think about nothing but food, hm? ;-) Jun 18 19:47:14 pizza, java Jun 18 19:47:45 chouimat: did I mention to be out of money? ;) Jun 18 19:47:48 Laibsch: I also think about port wine and whipped cream but not as food ... Jun 18 19:48:29 zecke_: "bitbake pizza" Jun 18 19:48:46 or as xora said "bitbake spacekuchen" or something Jun 18 19:49:47 did someone say java? Jun 18 19:50:04 dabba doo Jun 18 19:50:24 Laibsch: I'm interested in a "it'd be nice if it worked in OE" kind of way... Jun 18 19:50:28 Laibsch: I think somebody was hacking a little with PhoneME, some tie ago Jun 18 19:50:47 Laibsch: I would also like to see it working, of course. Jun 18 19:53:53 sirfred: right, woglinde is toying with it Jun 18 19:54:07 Is there a reason we can't say java is a requirement for cross compiling java under OE? Building a java-native is not a trivial task and it already exists for most distributions Jun 18 19:54:10 zecke_: Yes, that is. I forgotten his nick. Jun 18 19:54:32 sirfred: I guess he is mostly busy with his fpga class Jun 18 19:55:03 Last time we talked about that, he had some gtk2 stuff but still not running Jun 18 19:55:21 Any idea about what is the reason for this? Jun 18 19:55:29 NOTE: Applying patch 'armv5.patch' Jun 18 19:55:30 ... Jun 18 19:55:37 patch: **** Can't find file 1 : No such file or directory Jun 18 19:55:54 I noticed it today, any hint ? Jun 18 19:56:33 I've checked that my classes directory is synced with .dev, anyway, it refuses to work for this and other patches. Jun 18 19:58:10 * Crofton dances Jun 18 19:58:52 I think it still worked yesterday, but today, I'm not able to build anything with file://something;patch=1 in the SRC_URI Jun 18 20:17:17 * koen ask the retorical question 'which flavour of java?' Jun 18 20:17:40 Crofton: linux booted on the SFF Jun 18 20:17:44 ? Jun 18 20:18:42 well Jun 18 20:18:47 I have a u-boot prompt Jun 18 20:18:52 on the sff sdr Jun 18 20:19:02 no flash support yet Jun 18 20:19:09 baby steps Jun 18 20:21:31 * koen needs to fix PIL to have flumution working Jun 18 20:21:42 (and optionally py-openssl) Jun 18 20:27:06 what is "configure: error: libXtst NOT found, required for GdkRobot" I cannot find a package named like that Jun 18 20:29:29 apaulsen: You are more of an expert on java. What do we do about the different flavors of java? Jun 18 20:38:09 apaulsen: do you have an idea what that libXtst is all about? It seems to have something to do with the X server. Jun 18 20:38:37 Laibsch: X Test Extension Jun 18 20:38:50 what package in OE? Jun 18 20:38:53 for native? Jun 18 20:39:27 Laibsch: check packages/xorg-libs Jun 18 20:39:45 oh my tired eyes fooled me Jun 18 20:39:50 yupp, there it is Jun 18 20:40:04 yeah, just found it again (was confused by the libxt) Jun 18 20:41:31 Laibsch: the type of Java doesn't matter much, it's only used to run ecj Jun 18 20:42:00 well, koen raised the question Jun 18 20:42:36 apaulsen: I don't think it is really a big problem Jun 18 20:43:11 It should just be properly documented either as RequiredSoftware or as a dependency on a native package in the bb file. Jun 18 20:43:18 Both are really fine Jun 18 20:43:22 Don't worry Jun 18 20:43:39 But the libxtst dependency is also missing Jun 18 20:43:55 I will add it but will look for other missing stuff first Jun 18 20:49:55 zecke_: libxtst is there but it seems like it is not buildable :-( Jun 18 20:51:33 Laibsch: what kind of error do you get? Jun 18 20:53:50 I am looking into it right now with -DDD Jun 18 20:54:02 And it seems like it built on another box Jun 18 20:56:21 zecke_: looks like I misspelled something Jun 18 20:56:25 it built fine now Jun 18 20:59:12 * zecke_ stops playing with smalltalk and heds home Jun 18 21:00:05 zecke_: I take it that packages/xorg-lib/libxtst_X11R7.0-1.0.1.bb and thus should have a do_stage section? Jun 18 21:01:02 Laibsch: right, xorg-lib-common.inc has a autotools_stage_all Jun 18 21:11:39 later Jun 18 21:35:01 * * OE Bug 2524 has been created by tim.ellis(AT)mac.com Jun 18 21:35:03 * * rrdtool fails to build with newer compilers Jun 18 21:35:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2524 Jun 18 21:39:07 hey Jun 18 21:39:08 "configure.ac:15: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT" How can I get rid of that? Jun 18 21:47:04 http://www.pastebin.ca/575163 I can't find those files and where to put them Jun 18 21:47:59 dcordes: what package are you trying to compile? Jun 18 21:49:26 Good night Jun 18 21:50:30 Jin^eLD, sirfred's gpe-snes Jun 18 21:51:17 dcordes: well, can't tell anything about that package, but are you sure that those files are not included somewhere? Jun 18 21:51:41 those are autoconf macros Jun 18 21:58:05 hi Jun 18 21:59:08 huhu Jun 18 22:02:03 Jin^eLD, they are there somehow but I don't know where to put /OE/org.openembedded.dev/packages/console-tools/console-tools-0.3.2/config/codeset.m4 Jun 18 22:04:24 hmm interesting, the .bb file does add those in the SRC_URI, so it should actually work... Jun 18 22:05:58 Jin^eLD, hm so you have no solution? Jun 18 22:06:18 well I am not an expert Jun 18 22:06:43 it's not that urgent ^^ Jun 18 22:06:45 so no quick solution comes to mind.. Jun 18 22:06:55 thanks nevertheless Jun 18 22:07:04 np.. sorry could not help Jun 18 22:11:57 ~seen zecke Jun 18 22:12:01 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #openmoko, 4h 43m 53s ago, saying: '(one shouldn't do that...)'. Jun 18 22:12:27 have to go later Jun 18 22:45:39 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1703faf8... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): mplayer: enable pxa27x overlay support for magician and universal Jun 19 01:14:01 * * OE Bug 1871 has been REOPENED by angus(AT)handheldshell.com Jun 19 01:14:03 * *  Suspend on SLC3200 Jun 19 01:14:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1871 Jun 19 01:45:40 new gpsd_2.34 fails QA Jun 19 01:45:48 anyone want to take credit for that? Jun 19 01:55:57 anyone know who pfalcon is? Jun 19 01:56:35 how do I prefer any version except -r3? Jun 19 01:56:36 :-) Jun 19 02:01:39 anybody know the good command line id3 tag reader? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jun 19 02:59:56 2007