**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 27 02:59:56 2007 Jun 27 04:51:44 Morning Jun 27 06:10:08 good morning! Jun 27 06:28:39 koen: neither. I help Compulab with embedded linux, and they sit in Technions' premisis. Why do you ask? Jun 27 06:40:50 good morning Jun 27 06:46:42 RP: did you forget to copy the defconfig files to linux-rp-2.6.21/, or was my mtn update that failed? Jun 27 06:51:12 The updates since one week ago also broke meta-opie for me (can't find task task-opie-wlan) Jun 27 07:42:27 good morning all Jun 27 07:42:40 anyone has experience with timezones in linux ? Jun 27 07:44:01 Bernardo: I think he forgot to add the files in linux-rp-2.6.21, mtn update will tell you when it fails. Jun 27 07:44:21 steliosk: There isn't much to it -- Set the TZ variable. :) Jun 27 07:45:54 steliosk: in which regard? Jun 27 07:47:53 I need to find/create timezone files for gmt+1 to gmt+13 and gmt-12 Jun 27 07:48:12 the timezone package in OE does not seem to include/support them Jun 27 07:48:56 OE has gmt only Jun 27 07:49:03 steliosk: there are a lot of timezone packages. Jun 27 07:49:52 Necrocom : I know, have installed them all , but they don't provide the full gmt (gmt-12 to gmt+13) files Jun 27 07:53:59 steliosk: this is why Opie has an old forked copy of glibc timezone data :} Jun 27 07:55:06 zecke : So should i "follow the white rabbit" ? I was laughing got half an hour when i read that :) Jun 27 07:55:33 s/got/for Jun 27 07:56:02 steliosk: you could start fixing glibc packaging to generate and package tz data Jun 27 07:56:09 steliosk: or ship your own set of glibc data Jun 27 08:15:38 morning Jun 27 08:54:38 hi everybody Jun 27 08:57:29 yo thesing Jun 27 09:00:17 morning Jun 27 09:08:48 XorA: sandisk connect+ still does not allow to use wifi and storage at once? Jun 27 09:09:10 hrw: no, at it oops the kernel on insert Jun 27 09:10:13 so it does not work at all? Jun 27 09:10:34 yes, its borked, I have now serial cable so I can see oops Jun 27 09:10:37 just need time Jun 27 09:11:05 ok Jun 27 09:11:28 XorA: one guy at #openzaurus asked about it Jun 27 09:14:14 :-( he is outta luck until I get time to look at that oops Jun 27 09:17:44 good morning Jun 27 09:21:36 yo florian Jun 27 09:24:15 hi people, how can I debug X crashing? I don't have anything in /var/log/messages.... Jun 27 09:33:05 hi all .. Jun 27 09:49:54 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r72cc9aa1... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): pimlico: tasks updated to 0.9, dropped old versions Jun 27 09:49:59 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8b7536d1... 10/ (19 files in 2 dirs): linux-rp-2.6.21: Add missing files (from poky) Jun 27 09:51:15 03oe 07org.oe.dev * r3c27d30e... 10/ (24 files in 3 dirs): Jun 27 09:51:15 merge of '72cc9aa13fd4a4fd274deff49056beb2f6eb0784' Jun 27 09:51:15 and '8b7536d16e1b51ee2b13d1603f919531a1c9d949' Jun 27 10:32:01 * * OE Bug 2569 has been created by fms(AT)linux.it Jun 27 10:32:03 * * Sound disabled in default installation Jun 27 10:32:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2569 Jun 27 10:46:49 anyone has any idea with the GMT zonefile provided have the opposite time difference ? I.e if you specify gmt+2 its actually gmt-2... Jun 27 10:50:21 nnope Jun 27 10:55:21 its really weird... Jun 27 10:56:25 is it normal for the openzaurus gpe package manager to sometimes come up with error downloading x package and then just not respond but the hard drive is going like mad? Jun 27 10:56:30 its been working but not responoding for over 15 minutes now... Jun 27 10:57:48 zecke : Does it make sense to you or i am getting crazy because of the heat ? -> http://rafb.net/p/goT3PF11.html Jun 27 10:58:08 zecke : this is from adebian etch machine Jun 27 10:59:34 psokolovsky, commit http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2535 Jun 27 11:01:04 step2back: where do you live? (thought GMT-3 must be somewhere mid of atlantic? Jun 27 11:02:05 Atlantis, perhaps. Jun 27 11:02:47 hmm my gtm is +6 Jun 27 11:03:28 oh sry - my question wsa meant to stellosk Jun 27 11:03:57 its done now :) Jun 27 11:04:27 eckhard : I am in Athens/Greece which is gmt+2 plus 1 more hour for daylight savings Jun 27 11:05:15 eckhard : but if i set the localtime to point to gmt+3 in the zonefiles i am getting gmt-3 time reported Jun 27 11:06:39 steliosk: and if yyou set the zonefile to Eurpe/Athens? Jun 27 11:07:07 works fine Jun 27 11:08:31 so there must be a diff between them. Jun 27 11:12:28 hello Jun 27 11:12:46 hi Jun 27 11:13:02 I am trying to make a new package that contains a snmp server loadable module Jun 27 11:13:20 so my package needs to see headers in net-snmp-dev Jun 27 11:13:48 how can I describe this dependency? Jun 27 11:14:07 DEPENDS+="net-snmp" is not enough, headers do not appear under staging Jun 27 11:14:29 and DEPENDS+="net-snmp-dev" does not work at all, unsatisfieable dependecy Jun 27 11:16:11 net-snmp-dev package is built fine from net-snmp source Jun 27 11:17:06 mroos, I think net-snmp .bb just doesn't stage stuff Jun 27 11:18:42 hmm, does a .bb need to do something to support staging? Jun 27 11:18:57 mroos, Try do_stage() { autotools_stage_all } maybe. (in net-snmp .bb) Jun 27 11:19:21 but it, of course, depends on the particular packages, so that's just a guess that may well be wrong. Jun 27 11:24:03 step2back: will merge Jun 27 11:25:24 could someone tell me of another gps software for openzaurus other than gpsdrive? Jun 27 11:31:15 koen: re: bluez-utils.bb: "#Package 02dtl1_cs.sh, which is a nasty hack to get dtl1c_cs cards working with suspend/resume " Jun 27 11:31:48 koen: that hack is indeed very nasty. can we package it separately, to be used only by dtl1c victims? Jun 27 12:06:11 koen: I hear you are the proud owner of a Blackfin board, how well is it supported atm under OE ? Jun 27 12:07:27 polyonymous: thanks for the hint. autotools_stage_all was not enought because net-snmp does not seem to use autotools, but filling in my own do_stage with oe_libinstall's and install did the trick Jun 27 12:07:58 mroos, that was just a guess based on the presence of ' Jun 27 12:08:04 inherit autotools' in the .bb :) Jun 27 12:08:23 mroos, do share your work via bugzilla as a patch against mtn tree, please. Jun 27 12:09:33 OK, will do. Jun 27 12:09:38 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r78d8477a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 27 12:09:38 xserver-common_1.16.bb : move Mode_switch to mod5 as per #2326 this combined Jun 27 12:09:38 with coming minimo patch means URL's become typeable. Jun 27 12:09:43 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r87d56af8... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jun 27 12:09:43 minimo_cvs.bb : keymap fix for #2326, ssr patch from familiar, and moved Jun 27 12:09:43 MOZDATE onwards as it seems to compile and work. Jun 27 12:10:18 ~blame koen Jun 27 12:10:24 XorA: still fails on ssl? Jun 27 12:10:24 * ibot blames koen (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Jun 27 12:10:43 ~blame koen|away as well Jun 27 12:10:44 * ibot blames koen|away as well (and Canada) for all the evil in the world Jun 27 12:17:36 hrw: yes Jun 27 12:18:01 hrw: but at least you can type https:// :-) Jun 27 12:20:09 XorA: I cant still as machine for which I wrote minimo recipe lack keyboard ;D Jun 27 12:20:24 hrw: whats wrong with virtual keyboard? Jun 27 12:20:57 XorA: with virtual I was able to write even before Jun 27 12:21:28 hrw: quit yah belly aching then :-D Jun 27 12:21:55 we still need to locate the maemo sources Jun 27 12:21:57 ;) Jun 27 12:22:10 maemo-minimo? Jun 27 12:22:50 yeah, that seems to be more stable, they have a lot of patches listed in the binary, but no-one can find their sourse Jun 27 12:23:07 it is in svn on garage.maemo.org Jun 27 12:23:30 hrw: it is not, that was uploaded once, then never updated Jun 27 12:23:45 ah then curse them Jun 27 12:24:15 ~curse maemo Jun 27 12:24:15 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, maemo ! Jun 27 12:27:33 ~curse maemo again Jun 27 12:27:33 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, maemo again ! Jun 27 12:32:49 XorA: i think its worth poking Philippe about that Jun 27 12:32:55 good morning all Jun 27 12:33:14 robtaylor: ah does he have insider contacts? Jun 27 12:33:56 XorA: he is an insider Jun 27 12:34:26 Philippe: hey, do you have access to the top secret maemo-minimo sources? Jun 27 12:34:29 morning koen Jun 27 12:35:31 koen: how well is Blackfin support going in OE ? Jun 27 12:54:01 lrg: last time I asked (couple of days ago) it was not yet supported Jun 27 12:54:45 Jin^eLD: ok, thanks. I'll build anyway and see how far I get. Jun 27 12:54:47 lrg: as I understood the uclinux kernel/etc. stuff was in forked cvs repos and there were no clean patches available; so that's something that would have to be done Jun 27 12:55:06 koen said he was going to try their env and extract the patches Jun 27 12:55:15 no idea if he had time to do so Jun 27 12:55:34 I'd also be interested in bf support in OE :> Jun 27 12:55:41 koen, any news about meta-toolchain ? Jun 27 12:56:17 i managed to get it "kinda" created ,, but some paths where messed up ,, so i move files around by hand and made it work for me .. but Jun 27 12:57:00 i send away this tar.bz2 to someone else and he even cant compile "hello World" as ld cannot find -lgcc_s Jun 27 12:57:00 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Jun 27 13:25:18 morning Jun 27 13:26:33 rob_w: I think that some stuff from Poky could help with it Jun 27 13:28:59 which Jun 27 13:29:01 ? Jun 27 13:29:57 meta-toolchain recipe Jun 27 13:42:54 Anyone know why suddenly externally-built kernel modules (madwifi-ng specifically) are now being stripped? Jun 27 13:43:53 It looks like it is deliberate, but stripping a kernel module doesn't leave enough for it to be insmod'd into the kernel, AFAICT Jun 27 13:47:25 mwester: they are 755 installed? Jun 27 13:48:43 I didn't think to check. I turned off the module stripping in the bb file, and all is well again (they load into the kernel). Jun 27 13:49:47 Yes, they are all 755 Jun 27 13:53:51 thats why Jun 27 13:53:57 OE strip all 755 files Jun 27 14:06:42 koen: http://www.google.fr/search?q=busybox%20dontdiff&hl=fr Jun 27 14:08:59 Morning guys Jun 27 14:09:18 Hey guys, I have a PPC6700. Should I build my machine as htcuniversal? Jun 27 14:10:11 Keizer: what is ppc6700? Jun 27 14:11:08 it's a phone Jun 27 14:12:10 ppc6700 is htc apache not universal Jun 27 14:12:17 "Sprint's PPC-6700 is based on the HTC Apache reference design." Jun 27 14:12:41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ppc6700 Jun 27 14:13:02 Good evening Jun 27 14:13:38 wmat: But there's no machine file for that I don't think. I'll recheck Jun 27 14:16:41 Keizer: check htc wizard config (if exists) Jun 27 14:16:49 apache is cdma ver of wizard Jun 27 14:19:57 there is no wizard machine Jun 27 14:20:08 HTC wizard is OMAP and its kernel never really went anywhere Jun 27 14:20:15 * XorA has a wizard in his pocket Jun 27 14:20:37 Heh Jun 27 14:25:43 Crofton: touring the world? Jun 27 14:25:49 yeah Jun 27 14:25:54 in rainy Italy Jun 27 14:26:14 in germany it rains too Jun 27 14:26:32 In Scotland :-) Jun 27 14:27:03 * mwester thought it *ALWAYS* rains in Scotland, no? Jun 27 14:27:10 ah Jun 27 14:27:31 I hope it stps rainging, although are legs are too wrecked for anything hard today Jun 27 14:27:43 Rainy in italy? I've heard that the eat wave was reaching Rome one of these days. Jun 27 14:27:48 s/eat/heat Jun 27 14:27:59 Dolomites Jun 27 14:28:00 I thought there is alway fog over scotland and england Jun 27 14:28:01 Well, can be hot rain Jun 27 14:28:34 woglinde: I thought the fog was only in London Jun 27 14:30:07 some poor suckets in England just got 1/6 of their yearly rainfall in 2 hours, they are not happy Jun 27 14:30:35 ug Jun 27 14:30:47 XorA: that must be extremely interesting if you live near a river, lake ;) Jun 27 14:31:00 chouimat: the people under the dam have flead the village Jun 27 14:31:16 The weather is getting mad Jun 27 14:31:34 XorA: I'm slowly cooking in here ... Jun 27 14:31:56 chouimat: Where are you? Jun 27 14:32:11 sirfred: Ottawa Jun 27 14:32:37 hunder Jun 27 14:32:42 thunder Jun 27 14:33:04 I always thought the whole Canada was a cold place Jun 27 14:33:15 sirfred: not in summer Jun 27 14:33:31 sirfred: at 9:30 it was already 28 C Jun 27 14:33:38 chouimat: wow Jun 27 14:33:40 whoa!!!! Jun 27 14:33:54 It's 17 C here in Spain (well, the northwest of Spain) Jun 27 14:34:02 Enough rain recently for fireworks this weekend, chouimat? Jun 27 14:34:52 mwester they forecast 30+ today + heat index, and like 22 to 24 C for the weekend, no humidity :) Jun 27 14:35:02 mwester 22 tomorrow Jun 27 14:35:14 22 is rather nice... Jun 27 14:35:33 mwester 34C is nice when it's dry heat :) Jun 27 14:36:02 hehe - that's a myth perpetuated by the retired folks who live in Arizona! Jun 27 14:36:06 brb new kernel Jun 27 14:36:10 mwester haha Jun 27 14:37:06 I prefer not to go over 20C Jun 27 14:39:11 Damn, my processor doesn't support kvm Jun 27 14:40:02 hrw: are you building madwifi-ng? Jun 27 14:41:29 no Jun 27 14:41:53 its 12C in Scotland :-) Jun 27 14:42:15 25°C in sun here Jun 27 14:42:16 Lovely Jun 27 14:42:43 hrw: Where are you? Jun 27 14:43:31 sirfred: kqemu is running pretty well here, but it may be because my cpu supports virt extensions Jun 27 14:43:55 * XorA has taked to using virtualbox Jun 27 14:44:04 sirfred: Poznań, Poland Jun 27 14:46:07 hrw: I though you was working for o-hand. Remotely? Jun 27 14:46:19 XorA: hmm, first I've heard of virtbox -- yet another option ... Jun 27 14:46:51 I'm going to install win98 on this, let's see. Jun 27 14:46:53 cbrake: wourks better then vmware and qemu for running winXP for me Jun 27 14:47:04 XorA: What processor? Jun 27 14:47:12 sirfred: amd64 Jun 27 14:47:23 sirfred: without any fancy virtualisation extenions Jun 27 14:47:30 i keep losing VGA winXP on qemu grr Jun 27 14:47:46 XorA: Hmm, interesting. But I'm on a Pentium M 1,73 Ghz Jun 27 14:47:47 virtualbox even supports on the fly window resizing Jun 27 14:48:07 sirfred: for 32bit code my amd64 is only 2Ghz Jun 27 14:48:28 sirfred: its ancient Jun 27 14:48:34 sirfred: remotely Jun 27 14:48:42 XorA: Thanks, I will give it a try. No ubuntu package, I feel lazy :-) Jun 27 14:48:53 sirfred: ubuntu package is on their website, I run ubuntu Jun 27 14:48:56 hrw: Great. Jun 27 14:49:05 sirfred: i use a 1.8 GHz Pentium M, with qemu and kqemu its fine Jun 27 14:49:14 XorA: So, I'm going to give it a try. Jun 27 14:49:35 and it also does USB devices on the fly Jun 27 14:49:46 its nice for syncing my phone :-) Jun 27 14:50:07 Does it use the same qemu images? Jun 27 14:50:19 That should be nice to compare them. I'm out of disk space. Jun 27 14:50:25 i thought that was why BT and opensync was for ;) Jun 27 14:50:29 sirfred: I never checked if it can or not, I installed from scratch Jun 27 14:50:31 hrw: Interesting. Jun 27 14:50:43 XorA: OK. Thanks a lot. Jun 27 14:51:00 virtbox should be able to do cow and qcow i think Jun 27 14:51:02 ade|desk: BT + linux == pain, activesynce + opensynce == pain Jun 27 14:51:42 always pain ... Jun 27 14:52:11 It takes me some seconds to remember how the MSDOS mkfs was called Jun 27 14:52:18 i find evolution-exchange -> nokia e60 via opensync a pain Jun 27 14:52:44 anything involving evolution == PAIN Jun 27 14:52:51 gave up and when with blackberry instead Jun 27 14:53:05 s/when/went Jun 27 14:53:14 GRRRMMMBBBL Jun 27 14:53:16 I dont like blackberry Jun 27 14:53:17 blackberry enterprise server == pain :-) Jun 27 14:53:24 nor really Jun 27 14:53:28 its fine Jun 27 14:53:40 It seems that 'format c:' locked the thing Jun 27 14:53:40 i use the bb client for symbian Jun 27 14:53:43 * chouimat wants a greenphone Jun 27 14:53:52 or BES + lying french telcos == PAIN Jun 27 14:54:07 * ade|desk wants a fic with a bb client when i need it Jun 27 14:54:24 orange that bad ? Jun 27 14:54:24 chouimat hm Jun 27 14:54:46 woglinde: :) Jun 27 14:54:47 Yes, totally freezed Jun 27 14:54:57 ade|desk: wasnt orange I dont think, cant remeber which one, but they started to block all blackberry messages on one handset, but kept blaiming the server Jun 27 14:55:18 ade|desk: BES doesnt help by not having decent logs you can use to cluebat people with Jun 27 14:56:00 indeed Jun 27 14:56:12 other than that BES works cool Jun 27 14:56:29 plus exchange updates /windows updates make BES go wrong Jun 27 14:56:49 heh heh I got lucky there Jun 27 14:56:56 omg, the cd was for a windows millenium edition. I'm dead Jun 27 14:57:03 sooooo many 'holes' that BES use to work and MS keep patching the 'holes' Jun 27 14:57:27 * XorA wants an easy to install funambol server Jun 27 14:57:32 * sirfred wonders why he spent a cd with this crap Jun 27 14:57:37 hehe windows muppet edition .. been a while Jun 27 14:57:55 sirfred: hehe Jun 27 14:58:09 I only remember a win2000 like GUI and pain, a lot of pain Jun 27 14:59:27 i just remember a friend with WinME and pesky rollback / restore point that killed the system regularly Jun 27 14:59:53 ade|desk: That feature was useful to make viruses persistent Jun 27 15:00:11 and horrid 640x480 and 16 colours Jun 27 15:00:33 16bit fine , but 16 colours was silly Jun 27 15:00:53 16 colours? Well, perhaps you needed a driver for your graphics card Jun 27 15:08:58 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra274867a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): slugos-init: Another spot to support rootfs mtd partition naming. Jun 27 15:09:39 bye Jun 27 15:59:46 03oe 07org.oe.dev * r5263d7cc... 10/ (31 files in 9 dirs): Jun 27 15:59:46 merge of '87d56af8b268b54c15065d21ee44d5a9ccbdbada' Jun 27 15:59:46 and 'a274867aa1114b795903e870451c68c2892dbea1' Jun 27 16:08:18 why would my app not find the openssl headers inside staging ? Jun 27 16:09:20 rob_w|mis: exclude possible reasons Jun 27 16:09:35 Anyone here use apache? Jun 27 16:10:12 zecke there are staging/include/openssl/ and friends but a new app which includes and such doesnt find them Jun 27 16:11:04 EXTRA_OEMAKE+="-I${STAGING_INCLUDE_DIR}" is also not fixing it Jun 27 16:11:38 rob_w|mis: use strace -f to see where it is looking Jun 27 16:11:44 rob_w|mis: feel free to pastebin the compile log Jun 27 16:11:45 I dunno how answer oe or angstrom: how to setr locale for image. For example: opie has ru_RU/MESSAGES, but I dunno how to activate it Jun 27 16:14:10 http://rafb.net/p/fhLnqK84.html in the end you notice my bb file Jun 27 16:55:20 Hi all Jun 27 16:56:41 just tried to bitbake efl1 and it failed - obviously tried to download wrong version of the embryo source tarball. Jun 27 16:57:28 I tried to find the problem, but could not find where the PV - variable is set, which might be wrong ... Jun 27 16:58:46 maybee this is a known problem ? Though I didn't find anything about it in the bugtracker yet. Jun 27 17:24:23 is there someting special to create symlinks at do_install ? Jun 27 18:42:22 hi all Jun 27 18:46:50 hi philippe Jun 27 18:48:41 Howdy Jun 27 19:32:46 re Jun 27 19:33:26 koen: guadec looks bad ATM Jun 27 19:34:16 he koen Jun 27 19:35:08 zecke: ah, too bad Jun 27 19:35:11 hey woglinde Jun 27 19:35:42 djeez, even the blackfin buildroot doesn't build Jun 27 19:35:47 hm uclibc is insane sometimes Jun 27 19:49:22 "I have my BS and MS in Jun 27 19:49:23 electrical engineering and have been told I code like an engineer. As this Jun 27 19:49:23 came from a computer science guy, I assumed it was not complimentary. Jun 27 19:49:24 " Jun 27 19:49:27 :) Jun 27 19:49:48 koen hehe Jun 27 19:51:38 koen: feel free to knee said CS guy in groin Jun 27 19:51:46 Stefan Eilers was the first exception to this rule Jun 27 19:52:42 wmat: sadly I reenforce that stereotype Jun 27 19:53:05 heh Jun 27 19:53:12 what does it mean though? Jun 27 19:53:35 it means people go blind after looking at my code Jun 27 19:53:51 haha Jun 27 19:54:05 koen: but that is due the language choice Jun 27 19:57:24 why do people write makefiles like this: http://www.rational.co.za/Makefile ? Jun 27 19:57:41 koen, because it is sooo cute 8) Jun 27 19:58:24 I always do it almost like that if I don't intend to build it anywhere else. Jun 27 19:58:25 koen, wanna help with that iwmmxt glibc binary locale generation? Jun 27 19:58:28 because they are too lazy to read 30 min the autotools docu Jun 27 20:04:15 Anyone here use PyPy? Jun 27 20:04:48 only read code so far, and I'm disappointed by the performance numbers Jun 27 20:05:54 Keizer: I looked at it once Jun 27 20:08:18 cbrake: what's the state of mono in OE nowadays? Jun 27 20:08:41 koen: mostly broke Jun 27 20:08:49 ah, same is before Jun 27 20:09:13 koen: the base stuff builds, but there are some exceptions when you try to run programs Jun 27 20:09:24 koen: and the DLL packaging needs a lot of work. Jun 27 20:11:15 Can one run MoonLight yet? I never liked SVG, I like capital names in XML Elements better anyway :} Jun 27 20:13:16 koen: sample of my current testing: http://pastebin.ca/592516 Jun 27 20:15:28 cbrake: I wonder how responsive the mono dudes are if we report these problems Jun 27 20:15:45 378 for a via? Jun 27 20:15:52 * koen guesses "works on maemo" Jun 27 20:15:53 oops Jun 27 20:15:54 sorry Jun 27 20:16:17 koen: yeah, I've starting hanging out on #mono and mailing lists, so once I understand better what is going on, I'll ask around. Jun 27 20:16:25 cbrake: I might make an ebuild for PyPy Jun 27 20:16:35 Keizer: great! Jun 27 20:17:20 koen: I have a 770 on order (woot.com had them for $125), so I'll give it a try when it gets here. Jun 27 20:17:51 cbrake: you know nokia killed support for that a few months ago, right? Jun 27 20:18:15 koen: yeah, probably why the thing is cheap Jun 27 20:18:29 Anyone using monotone .35? Jun 27 20:18:43 koen: we are having some performance issues with a GTK app on a project, and I wanted a quick point of reference Jun 27 20:22:28 cbrake: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-June/001018.html Jun 27 20:23:13 to put the maemo/gtk situation a bit in context Jun 27 20:23:26 koen: yeah, I just read that -- very interesting Jun 27 20:25:06 koen: I think the biggest problem is the way the app is written :-\ , but I'm working on testing with the latest version of OE now. Jun 27 20:25:28 ever tried using oprofile? Jun 27 20:26:29 koen: I see your using 1.4.8 in angstrom now Jun 27 20:26:37 koen: no, I never have Jun 27 20:26:49 1.4.8 has all the performance patches Jun 27 20:27:05 although it has a double free issue with the workqueue in theory Jun 27 20:37:24 bah Jun 27 20:37:46 I just wasted half an hour because I used CPP instead of CXX Jun 27 20:40:00 * * OE Bug 2570 has been created by utx(AT)penguin.cz Jun 27 20:40:02 * * invalid platform packages in repository for gpe-login-locale-cs Jun 27 20:40:04 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2570 Jun 27 20:41:29 koen: should we grant access? Jun 27 20:41:46 koen: do you have another db server where such candidates could push to and we pull? Jun 27 20:42:01 zecke: I'm inclined to say 'yes', with the standard disclaimer Jun 27 20:42:37 koen: the only issue is: He should not keep Opie/GPE patches in OE as this is the wrong project for it Jun 27 20:42:50 koen: but that needs teaching anyway Jun 27 20:49:16 ERROR: function image_cmd failed Jun 27 20:53:41 zecke: could you reply to oe-private bout access and guadec? Jun 27 20:59:16 hi all Jun 27 21:00:41 Koen: my atmel devel kit finally came , I want to port it to oe Jun 27 21:00:42 i am having trouble with the ep93xx_eth driver for the Cirrus Logic arm9 chip ... the driver loads but the interface is not created .... any idea why ? Jun 27 21:01:12 looks like the .probe of the dirver is not called ... am i missing something? Jun 27 21:37:37 hi Jun 27 21:49:33 hi Jun 27 21:54:24 http://hacker.klever.net/filesbin/kopi-x11 Jun 27 22:03:25 hmmm, how can i know the available targets for bitbake for a specific config of oe Jun 27 22:03:26 ? Jun 27 22:03:55 Good night Jun 27 22:06:30 RP: you have made me the happiest boy at the dance (linux-rp-2.6.21) Jun 27 22:07:11 RP: I will have a few patches for you in bug tracker later to fix/extend some of the kernel wifi Jun 27 22:07:19 saladino: what is a target for you? Jun 27 22:07:45 zecke, bitbake angstrom-minimal-image Jun 27 22:07:50 bitbake slugos-image Jun 27 22:07:53 those are targets Jun 27 22:08:28 got to go, train station Jun 27 22:08:31 im a bit tired of greping bb files and finding nothing. :D Jun 27 22:08:37 saladino: well, more than one way. Let you list available versions Jun 27 22:08:52 saladino: alternatively let you generate the graph for world (a special target) Jun 27 22:09:10 a graph? Jun 27 22:09:15 how? Jun 27 22:09:28 saladino: or do you have 'images' in mind as target? probably all of us use grep... Jun 27 22:09:32 slapin: RTFM ;) Jun 27 22:09:37 slapin: bitbake --help Jun 27 22:09:41 and check the -g option Jun 27 22:09:54 humm Jun 27 22:09:55 ok Jun 27 22:10:00 thanks :) Jun 27 22:10:05 it will output a couple of .dot files Jun 27 22:10:18 that you can either read yourself, or make dot generate a pretty output Jun 27 22:15:04 saladino: but if your question is: What kind of images can be generated, I think most of us take a look at the images/ folder and in the angstrom directory Jun 27 22:15:20 saladino: or grep for rootfs in packages/*/*.bb, or use find Jun 27 22:16:11 I'm having a brutal time with this stuff lol Jun 27 22:19:13 Keizer: why are you interested in PyPy? Jun 27 22:20:00 python bindings for python? Jun 27 22:20:12 ljp: No Python implemented in Python Jun 27 22:20:29 like smalltalk is doing it the last 30 years Jun 27 22:20:54 Keizer: I think PyPy is only interesting from an academic point of view, but less interesting since I know smalltalk ;) Jun 27 22:21:24 zecke: how do I add qtopia-opensource_4.2.2.bb to a build. when I try, I get a message about no provider? Jun 27 22:22:18 ljp: DEPENDS = "qtopia-opensource" in any task (e.g. one you build) Jun 27 22:22:23 I am using angstrom-minimal-image to start Jun 27 22:23:30 wait a second, I'm getting tired Jun 27 22:24:11 hm ntpd makes me sick Jun 27 22:24:42