**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 24 02:59:56 2007 Aug 24 05:23:03 hi, Xfbdev cant run on 240x240 device? Aug 24 06:09:49 hi again Aug 24 06:55:45 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/IceCC Aug 24 06:59:58 * * OE Bug 2853 has been marked as DUPLICATE of bug 2756 by Aug 24 07:00:00 * *  linux-2.6.21-r7-do_unpack Aug 24 07:00:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2853 Aug 24 07:00:10 * * OE Bug 2840 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 07:00:12 * *  gsmd startup script broken Aug 24 07:00:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2840 Aug 24 07:00:22 * * OE Bug 2851 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 07:00:24 * *  mono-1.2.4+1.2.5pre5-r3-do_patch Aug 24 07:00:26 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2851 Aug 24 07:00:37 good morning all Aug 24 07:08:19 koen, morning Aug 24 07:08:38 please loot at this http://cmh.hackndev.com/pastebin/35/ Aug 24 07:10:51 opie is broken, the sky is blue, news at eleven Aug 24 07:12:49 I don't think it's our fault actually Aug 24 07:15:57 * * OE Bug 2833 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 07:15:59 * *  gst-plugins-bad-0.10.5-r1-do_compile Aug 24 07:16:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2833 Aug 24 07:23:39 <_law_> void never_called_tr_function_um_libqpe_ts_etwas_unter_zu_jubeln() :-) Aug 24 07:28:07 ~botmail for pH5: NOTE: multiple providers are available for avahi (avahi-python, avahi); Aug 24 07:29:16 Crofton|home: there's one issue with the gumstix-connex kernel: the uImage is created correctly by do_compile in arch/arm/boot, but when install starts to run, it copies the Image file over it, so uImage has ~2.4Mb (and no header info in it of course) Aug 24 07:30:58 * * OE Bug 2001 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by skoroneos(AT)digital-opsis.com Aug 24 07:31:00 * *  vsftpd 2.0.5 fails to build Aug 24 07:31:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2001 Aug 24 07:32:03 good morning all Aug 24 07:37:40 morning Aug 24 07:39:36 hey hrw & steliosk Aug 24 07:42:43 morning all Aug 24 07:42:54 berlios is down again :-( Aug 24 07:43:58 RP: bitbake 1.8.9 + remote svn repo down (e.g. gnuradion.org) = parse error Aug 24 07:44:15 so I can't do any builds without removing the gnuradio_svn.bb :( Aug 24 07:45:48 Crofton|home: seems like a typo in linux.inc, do_install_prepend, btw the images subdir does not exist in my kernel workdir... Aug 24 07:46:13 koen: Thats the bad side to floating svn revisions. I'm not sure what we can do about that Aug 24 07:46:51 RP: and SRCREV_gnuradion = "6128" didn't help either Aug 24 07:47:01 koen: It should have done Aug 24 07:47:22 SRCREV_pn-gnuradion = Aug 24 07:49:27 RP: do python __anonymous () functions run only once ? I am having a problem that if a package that has this fails and i try to rebuild it the python stuff does not seem to run again. I have put print statements in it and they don't get printed the second time Aug 24 07:51:44 the only way to get it re-run the python part is if i touch the .bb file so it re-parses it Aug 24 07:51:57 morning Aug 24 07:52:50 hey XorA Aug 24 07:59:18 steliosk: Right, they'll only get run once for parsing. They'll get run again when any of the tasks run though Aug 24 08:00:51 RP: it looks like that if the package fails then it does not run during the taks Aug 24 08:04:57 * * OE Bug 2854 has been created by openmoko(AT)twiceasgood.net Aug 24 08:04:59 * * gst-plugins-bad-0.10. 5-r1 build uses wrong include paths for directfb Aug 24 08:05:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2854 Aug 24 08:07:10 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r953 10/lib/bb/cooker.py: cooker.py Add support for BB_NICE_LEVEL option (#1627) [backport] Aug 24 08:07:44 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r954 10/lib/bb/__init__.py: __init__.py: Fix a bug in bb.decodeurl where http://some.where.com/somefile.tgz decoded to host="" (#1530) [backport] Aug 24 08:09:01 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r955 10/lib/bb/cooker.py: cooker.py: Warn about malformed PREFERRED_PROVIDERS (#1072) [backport] Aug 24 08:11:15 03rpurdie * r956 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): providers.py: Backport various providers fixed from trunk (+update Changelogs) Aug 24 08:11:30 steliosk: How do you mean "package fails" ? Aug 24 08:12:46 RP : I have a meta package called oplinux-packages that tries to build a number of packages excluding those that fail on specific arch Aug 24 08:13:52 if one of these packages fails during compile for example and i re-run bitbake oplinux-packages the python coded does not get executed Aug 24 08:14:28 the oplinux-packages.bb is the org.openembedded/packages/meta dir if you want to have a look Aug 24 08:17:21 steliosk: The fact it doesn't get reexecuted is to be expected. Why would it execute each time? Aug 24 08:18:04 RP : because it did with previus versions of bitbake :) Aug 24 08:18:56 RP :previus versions of bitbake ==1.6 Aug 24 08:19:11 steliosk: bitbake 1.8 and 1.6 behave the same way in their regard Aug 24 08:19:43 steliosk: Talk me through what you think is happening please. You run "bitbake oplinux-packages" and one of the tasks it triggers due to its DEPENDS fails. What then? Aug 24 08:20:27 Presumably you change OPLINUX_BROKEN_PACKAGES ? Aug 24 08:21:12 RP: in the do python __anonymous () i have a debug print statement to see what arch is building Aug 24 08:21:32 RP: the first time i issue bitbake oplinux-packages it gets displayed Aug 24 08:22:09 steliosk: please answer the question I asked Aug 24 08:22:37 steliosk: You will find the output from that print statement exactly the same under 1.6 as 1.8 Aug 24 08:22:42 if oplinux-packages fails and i don't change anything in it or touch it the next time i run bitbake oplinux-packages the debug statment is not printed Aug 24 08:23:43 That is correct. It already worked out what the DEPENDS were and cached the result from last time Aug 24 08:23:50 RP : ok, i will look more into it. Probably pull an older version from our svn with a 1.6 bitbake Aug 24 08:24:22 steliosk: If no files changed, why would it need to recalculate DEPENDS? Aug 24 08:24:34 steliosk: or are you setting this in the enviornment? Aug 24 08:25:42 RP : i was under the impression that the python code will get executed regardless. Its not so much a DEPENDS issue Aug 24 08:26:07 RP: the bitbake changelog has some duplicates :) Aug 24 08:26:10 steliosk: The python code gets executed when the file is parsed. The file is only parsed when the cache is invalid Aug 24 08:26:27 RP: ok now its clear Aug 24 08:27:01 koen: The 1.8 branch? Aug 24 08:27:06 yes Aug 24 08:27:09 RP: but i think in 1.6 it executed not only during parsing Aug 24 08:27:20 "Improve provider sorting so prefered versions have preference over latest versions (#768)" is there twice :) Aug 24 08:27:44 RP: thanks for cleaning that up for me Aug 24 08:28:12 03rpurdie 07bitbake-1.8 * r957 10/ChangeLog: Changelog: Remove duplicates Aug 24 08:28:13 steliosk: I'm fairly sure 1.6 does the same thing and will only execute when parsing Aug 24 08:28:41 steliosk: If it doesn't I'd class it as a bug though ;-) Aug 24 08:29:00 RP: np. bitbake 1.6 is soooo last year ;) Aug 24 08:29:17 steliosk: yes :) Aug 24 08:30:08 RP: how (un)safe is it to merge poky's {base,package*,multimachine}.bbclass and bitbake.conf? Aug 24 08:31:45 morning all Aug 24 08:32:36 I was going to get annoyed at #2854 but they guy actually patched it :-) Aug 24 08:33:50 ah, I thought it was the exact same thing Aug 24 08:34:26 hi koen XorA Aug 24 08:34:49 * koen has been reading to much "OMG OE IS STILL BROKEN AFTER make update-master-makefile-but-not-metadata-omg-makefile" Aug 24 08:34:52 hey do13 Aug 24 08:36:12 koen: is webkit-gtk usable? Aug 24 08:36:20 do13: yes Aug 24 08:36:53 do13: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/3da02780bb5ff9a158ef061c953b40ea.png Aug 24 08:37:58 * * OE Bug 2855 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 24 08:38:00 * * qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r1-do_patch Aug 24 08:38:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2855 Aug 24 08:38:26 koen: A customer asked about owb. I checked this on my arm system, but this browser has a lot of alignment traps :) Aug 24 08:39:49 owb sucks Aug 24 08:39:56 fork-of-fork-of-fork Aug 24 08:40:15 XorA: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e079b09c131a564c63d3c8594004f0bd.png Aug 24 08:40:30 midori 0.0.5 seems to work quite well Aug 24 08:40:48 looks good Aug 24 08:40:53 koen: schweeeeeet! Aug 24 08:41:06 koen: can it save files/links etc? Aug 24 08:42:35 "save as" is greyed out Aug 24 08:42:38 hey zecke Aug 24 08:42:46 do13: zecke is a webkit hacker, ask him :) Aug 24 08:42:53 hey zecke Aug 24 08:42:57 ho Aug 24 08:42:59 do13: how are you? Aug 24 08:43:46 Pretty busy. And we are wating for our second daughter :) Aug 24 08:44:13 awesome, so you like to know the gender in advance? Aug 24 08:44:40 * ljp is waiting baby any day now too Aug 24 08:45:03 zecke: Yep. So we have more time to choose the name Aug 24 08:47:27 zecke: I'll tryto use webkit-gtk for a project Aug 24 08:47:57 * * OE Bug 2854 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by dp(AT)xora.org.uk Aug 24 08:47:59 * *  gst-plugins-bad-0.10. 5-r1 build uses wrong include paths for directfb Aug 24 08:48:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2854 Aug 24 08:48:02 someone ban babies, its removing all the OE hackers Aug 24 08:48:13 ljp: good luck (*crosses fingers*) and tell Bill it is not insane to build random stuff on new QtopiaCore releases everything else is a bug ;) Aug 24 08:48:53 I have to wait to February for own child Aug 24 08:49:10 do13: oh, WebKit/Gtk+ for a project, with customers? feel free to get free support... Aug 24 08:49:39 do13: but take a look at the Qt4.4 roadmap and schedule, they will have a working WebKit in their source Aug 24 08:49:43 * keesj has two , that's more than enough Aug 24 08:50:02 zecke: yes. They asked about owb. Aug 24 08:50:43 do13: ah, owb is developed outside of webkit.org and is a porting layer for a porting layer :) Aug 24 08:51:34 zecke: owb has a lot of alignment traps and is dog slow Aug 24 08:51:51 zecke: So we need an alternative Aug 24 08:52:08 hmm, it could only trap in SDL... :) Aug 24 08:52:39 take a look at both WebKit/Gtk+ and WebKit/Qt. I don't want to bias you, both have weaknes, etc. Aug 24 08:53:11 do13: any news about updating tosa usbhost to something newer then 2.6.17? Aug 24 08:53:18 build of webkit-gtk is still in progress Aug 24 08:53:21 koen: Poky is working again so it should be safeish but it did raise a few interesting problems... Aug 24 08:53:25 hehe Aug 24 08:53:43 hrw: sorry I haven't touched the tosa kernel Aug 24 08:53:44 koen: I'm not 100% sure the solution is right although its better than the previous bugs Aug 24 08:53:58 zecke: thanks... and compiling qtopia 4.2 with qt 4.3 wont work without a lot of pain Aug 24 08:54:11 do13: no problem Aug 24 08:54:40 ljp: besides PIM crashing (which I don't care for), it works like a charm ;) Aug 24 08:55:13 ljp: but you should really copy the sqlite3.c from Qt4.3 into your source tree, and your configure script should stop patching files... you can do that before you ship the tarball... Aug 24 08:55:40 nope. we patch qt at configure time Aug 24 08:55:53 good morning Aug 24 08:55:59 becaue qt shipped is different than what qtopia needs Aug 24 08:56:32 ljp: let me rephrase, you should not patch files you ship... if you need to patch (hey you are the same entity...) patch it before you create the release? Aug 24 08:57:06 cant do that.. cause qtopia is released after qt of same version Aug 24 08:57:19 patches contain fixes, of course Aug 24 08:57:39 and qtopia archive contain full qt source... Aug 24 08:57:49 yep Aug 24 08:58:02 ljp: well, you decide to distribute qt and Qtopia in one source package. When creating that you can patch Qt. But not at configure time Aug 24 08:58:53 no, cause we ship a particular qt version, which our patches may or may not end up in later qt versions Aug 24 08:59:01 ljp: so qtopia release man like perl way... Aug 24 08:59:12 'it is weird, because it has to' etc Aug 24 08:59:34 ya, not the ideal solution Aug 24 09:01:08 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r63851b92... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 24 09:01:17 gst-plugins-bad_0.10.5.bb : apply bug from #2854 to fix properly the directfb Aug 24 09:01:23 problems in compile. Thanks to "Gordon Syme" Aug 24 09:02:53 eeks! Aug 24 09:03:05 automake 1.10 and libtool 1.5.24 get built Aug 24 09:03:57 * * OE Bug 2856 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 24 09:03:59 * * libtool-native-1.5.24-r0-do_compile Aug 24 09:04:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856 Aug 24 09:07:14 morning chaps Aug 24 09:09:24 RP: eh, I think bitbake 1.8 is broken wrt DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Aug 24 09:12:04 yup hit that with qemu version, which is fun cos 0.9.0configure patch is missing Aug 24 09:20:52 koen: You mean trunk? Aug 24 09:21:08 koen: which package? Aug 24 09:30:14 ade|desk: have that problem too .. so whats the fix? Aug 24 09:34:52 ~sheep lrg Aug 24 09:35:32 torpor: find configure-0.9.0.patch Aug 24 09:37:11 ?? Aug 24 09:38:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rcd9f6291... 10/ (1 packages/automake/automake-native_1.10.bb): automake-native 1.10: add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Aug 24 09:38:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rad034cb2... 10/ (1 packages/libtool/libtool-native_1.5.24.bb): libtool-native 1.5.24: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Aug 24 09:41:08 Did somebody build opie from OE last time? Aug 24 09:42:16 opie? it still exists? Aug 24 09:43:10 :), yes. Do you suggest something better? Aug 24 09:43:48 step2back: Qtopia, is the award winning alternative, GPE won awards as well :) Aug 24 09:45:58 oh.... ERROR: No providers of build target qtopia-image (for []) Aug 24 09:46:02 $) Aug 24 09:46:10 ;0 Aug 24 09:53:40 /clear/win 3 Aug 24 09:55:26 any idea why this shows up when sqlite2 is allready installed ? -> ERROR: Importing sqlite3 and pysqlite2 failed, please install one of them. A 'python-pysqlite2' like package is likely to be what you need Aug 24 09:56:36 steliosk: python-pysqlite2? Aug 24 09:56:42 yes Aug 24 09:56:53 no idea Aug 24 09:57:20 apt-get install python-pysqlite2 Aug 24 09:57:20 Reading package lists... Done Aug 24 09:57:20 Building dependency tree... Done Aug 24 09:57:20 python-pysqlite2 is already the newest version. Aug 24 09:57:20 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded. Aug 24 09:58:19 ;( Aug 24 09:58:25 works for me (debian 'sid' Aug 24 09:58:26 ) Aug 24 09:59:50 works here too on debian something or other Aug 24 10:00:25 etch I think Aug 24 10:01:38 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd8563961... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/openmoko.inc): openmoko: use proper version of qemu Aug 24 10:06:34 RP: bitbake -s | grep auto Aug 24 10:06:50 it will select automake-native 1.10, even if it has DEF_PREF = -1 Aug 24 10:07:11 * hrw has enough of openmoko 'lets try, hack, get random fixes from other people which has no idea' etc Aug 24 10:07:51 hrw: you forget 'ignore advice from OE developers' Aug 24 10:07:55 03rpurdie * r958 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): providers.py: Fix regressions Aug 24 10:08:30 koen: and lack of maintainer? Aug 24 10:08:33 koen: I'd broken it the providers code which doesn't entirely surprise me... Aug 24 10:08:46 r958 fixes it Aug 24 10:08:48 thanks Aug 24 10:09:30 uh oh. fracture between the openmoko and openembedded camps? this is not good .. Aug 24 10:10:10 torpor: I can support something which I use. Aug 24 10:10:22 koen: I'm interested to know if those providers changes help some of the previously problematic corner cases too... Aug 24 10:10:22 none of my neo phones runs om-2007.2 Aug 24 10:10:47 * koen runs angstrom on pretty much anything Aug 24 10:12:07 i have a collie sitting on my shelf which still runs openembedded from 2 years ago. i have a neo in front of me whch is running openmoko from last night. i know which one i'll take if i have to choose one .. Aug 24 10:12:08 hrw: there is a maintainer, he just hasnt started working yet, see mickeyl post on oe.org Aug 24 10:13:54 ok Aug 24 10:14:15 XorA: so there will be a maintainer Aug 24 10:14:28 hrw: Im sure there will Aug 24 10:16:26 he will have hard job to do if he will be at #openmoko Aug 24 10:16:42 I guess he already does watch that channel Aug 24 10:17:33 who s it? Aug 24 10:17:40 I just hope that he used OE directly for longer time then #openmoko guys Aug 24 10:17:53 torpor: it will be announced later Aug 24 10:19:14 XorA: are you sure? Aug 24 10:19:26 zecke: Im never sure Aug 24 10:21:08 hrw: I lost track, the qemu in .dev is now the OH tested to death one? Aug 24 10:21:40 XorA: yes Aug 24 10:22:19 XorA: atleast it should be as I did not removed other versions so if someone has PREF_VER set then he will not get it Aug 24 10:26:52 The other qemu was being built because of a bitbake regression Aug 24 10:27:00 That regression is now gone Aug 24 10:28:41 RP: is that what is hitting the mokomakefile people? Aug 24 10:29:13 no, that's the inability to read Aug 24 10:29:22 lol Aug 24 10:30:52 XorA: I think someone made that makefile pull from bitbake 1.8 svn so quite possible Aug 24 10:32:18 XorA: btw, the providers changes should address that glibc issue we discussed a while back so even if the wrong PACKAGES_DYNAMIC was set, it should try and do the right thing Aug 24 10:32:34 RP: cool Aug 24 10:34:36 RP: so qemu should build again now? Aug 24 10:36:01 I think we should ditch 20070701 in metadata Aug 24 10:36:24 so mokomakefile is not cool eh? Aug 24 10:39:07 mokomakefile is ok to do normal builds. but if you want to tweak or build something extra then better use mokomakefile to setup and then go by hand Aug 24 10:40:15 hrw: but we should persuade rwhitby to make it use release bitbake Aug 24 10:40:48 XorA: I will leave it to new openmoko maintainer Aug 24 10:41:18 hope he doesnt have a phobia of ozzies :-) Aug 24 10:42:25 XorA: MokoMakefile uses bitbake 1.8 stable branch. Aug 24 10:45:10 rwhitby: The problem is I just broke the stable branch for a short while :? Aug 24 10:45:13 :/ Aug 24 10:47:24 RP: what is the svn tag for the latest stable release, I will change MokoMakefile to use tags instead of the "stable" branch head. Aug 24 10:48:27 rwhitby: Its the /tags/bitbake-1.8.8/ directory Aug 24 10:49:07 RP: thx Aug 24 10:51:48 fixed Aug 24 10:51:57 thanks Aug 24 10:52:55 of course now there will be a lag between emergency bitbake stable releases, and the mokomakefile being updated to the new tag. hopefully that will be rare. Aug 24 10:54:06 rwhitby: if there is need we can create tags/bitbake-1.8 which is a copy of the latest stable release Aug 24 10:55:21 teach a man to fish.... Aug 24 10:56:50 or allow a chef to use the fish markets Aug 24 10:57:01 (since he has no interest in fishing) Aug 24 10:58:04 RP: I've dropped my building on CentOS - it just breaks too much. I only build on Debian and Ubuntu now. Aug 24 10:58:39 rwhitby: Problems with bitbake or other issues too? Aug 24 11:00:20 RP: latest was gtk+ build failure. I simply don't have the time free to deal with it. Aug 24 11:00:47 I'm not complaining or criticising, just letting you know that I'm no longer testing on CentOS. Aug 24 11:05:57 * * OE Bug 2855 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 11:05:59 * *  qemu-native-0.9.0+cvs20070613-r1-do_patch Aug 24 11:06:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2855 Aug 24 11:06:09 * * OE Bug 2856 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 11:06:11 * *  libtool-native-1.5.24-r0-do_compile Aug 24 11:06:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2856 Aug 24 11:13:05 rwhitby: ok, thanks Aug 24 11:15:38 what is up with libtool? Aug 24 11:15:52 hmm -native, I may never build that ... Aug 24 11:25:22 crap gtk+ still does not build Aug 24 11:25:42 never build libtool-native? hard to believe. Aug 24 11:27:00 well, I uspect not much depends on the native version, alot depends on teh cross version Aug 24 11:27:21 doesn't cross depend on native? Aug 24 11:27:38 I doubt it Aug 24 11:28:41 for what I remember of the way it gets installed, it actually uses native 'share' dir for cross... It should really be fixed, in fact... Aug 24 11:37:18 RP, zecke: In the rm_work class you rm the files in dirs but not .pc subdirs for example. Bug? Aug 24 11:41:32 stefan_schmidt: I wrote rm_work Aug 24 11:41:46 stefan_schmidt: all .* dirs left Aug 24 11:42:06 hrw: why? Aug 24 11:43:23 roo Aug 24 11:43:52 roo? Aug 24 11:44:05 It's Polish Aug 24 11:44:59 no - wrong keyboard used when using grub Aug 24 11:45:29 heh Aug 24 11:45:37 stefan_schmidt: .pc is created by quilt which was not in use when I wrote class Aug 24 11:46:08 hrw: ah, so just use rm -rf $dir instead of rm -rf $dir/* ? Aug 24 11:46:25 stefan_schmidt: probably Aug 24 11:46:41 stefan_schmidt: in general you can do rm -rf ${S} Aug 24 11:46:48 * hrw -> alix Aug 24 11:47:49 hm. alix needs more ata drivers in kernel Aug 24 11:48:19 hrw: Like me to do this, or some more time to think about it? Aug 24 11:48:33 stefan_schmidt: feel free Aug 24 11:48:41 I do not use rm_work Aug 24 11:48:46 hrw: ok Aug 24 11:49:10 hrw: I test it with a from scratch build tonight and commit after success. Aug 24 11:51:51 hrw, I can hardly catch up with you European people on irc Aug 24 11:52:16 hrw, do you think the qemu gcc4 patch is worth to adapt Aug 24 11:53:09 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1f7c7058... 10/ (1 packages/grub/grub_0.97.bb): grub: rdepend on diffutils to get 'cmp' command needed by grub-install Aug 24 11:53:17 btw, did you push the gnuplot4.2.0 yesterday Aug 24 11:54:04 xjqian: I see no problem with having gcc3 on host Aug 24 11:55:24 just want to mention the matrix.patch is needed anymore, as it's in the upstream Aug 24 11:56:23 not needed Aug 24 12:07:05 hi xora Aug 24 12:07:10 morning Aug 24 12:09:03 # file://combo-arrow-size.patch;patch=1;pnum=0 \ Aug 24 12:09:17 combo-arrow? Aug 24 12:09:18 commenting out this patch from gtk+ solves my build problem Aug 24 12:09:25 ah Aug 24 12:10:34 Crofton|home: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2845 Aug 24 12:10:41 this? Aug 24 12:11:13 looks about right Aug 24 12:11:22 I can double check my error is the same in a bit Aug 24 12:11:48 rebuilding with patch Aug 24 12:11:59 hehe Aug 24 12:12:08 some one should than solve it Aug 24 12:12:12 crofton? Aug 24 12:12:16 *g* Aug 24 12:13:05 I am checking my error is similar then I will comment on report Aug 24 12:13:21 * woglinde bets is the same Aug 24 12:13:41 yeah, but I want to dobule check Aug 24 12:13:54 and it is easy since I have all teh stuff at my finger tips Aug 24 12:14:04 and, I am procrastinating Aug 24 12:17:35 comment added Aug 24 12:27:35 hm someone with a pxa320 here? Aug 24 12:31:21 woglinde: what you want to check on it? Aug 24 12:32:09 hrw hm have we oe support? Aug 24 12:32:21 otherwise I would ask some companies to get samples Aug 24 12:32:26 Crofton|home: poky has better fix. Aug 24 12:32:50 hrw, I didn't say it is agreat fix Aug 24 12:33:00 woglinde: we do not have it in OE Aug 24 12:33:03 Crofton|home: I know Aug 24 12:33:05 just trying to localiza so someone who knows what is going on can fix Aug 24 12:33:24 hrw okay I will write an email to toradex maybee karo Aug 24 12:33:27 If I run out of ways to not work on my thesis, I will look at it Aug 24 12:33:57 :) Aug 24 12:34:53 Crofton|home: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/meta/packages/gtk%2B/gtk%2B-2.10.14/combo-arrow-size.patch?rev=2528&view=log is what you need Aug 24 12:35:07 what is wrong? Last message what I see at booting : "Nothing to be done". Any ideas? Aug 24 12:35:37 step2back nothing? Aug 24 12:35:38 angstrom-x11-image Aug 24 12:35:48 all your tasks finished? Aug 24 12:36:24 yes Aug 24 12:36:29 *g* Aug 24 12:36:59 if you are in the mood delete your oetmp dir and wait for 6 hours again Aug 24 12:37:05 *duck and hide* Aug 24 12:37:14 before hwclock: settimeofday faild: invalide argument Aug 24 12:37:26 aeh? Aug 24 12:37:35 since when bitbake set the hwclock? Aug 24 12:37:42 ups Aug 24 12:37:43 booting Aug 24 12:37:46 sorry Aug 24 12:37:56 _booting_ :) Aug 24 12:38:01 hm something wrong with your init Aug 24 12:38:07 or inittab Aug 24 12:38:30 hrw, ok, thanks Aug 24 12:38:48 koen, could you fix gnuplot_4.2.0.bb Aug 24 12:38:58 ! oebug 2300 Aug 24 12:39:02 okay bye Aug 24 12:39:36 !oebug 2300 Aug 24 12:39:38 * * Bug 2300, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-05-10 23:44 Aug 24 12:39:39 * * xjqian(AT)gmail.com: gnuplot 4.2.0 recipe Aug 24 12:39:40 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2300 Aug 24 12:39:43 grep 'Nothing to be done' tmp/rootfs/* -R : tmp/rootfs/usr/lib/libipkg.so.0 Aug 24 12:40:55 Crofton|home: I am building and will push after build Aug 24 12:41:26 same here Aug 24 12:41:29 :) Aug 24 12:41:46 you will likely finish first Aug 24 12:42:00 I am switching back to libtool-1.5.24 Aug 24 12:47:41 What is role of ipkg at booting? Aug 24 12:48:30 at end of boot ipkg configure is called Aug 24 12:51:50 Crofton|home: pushed Aug 24 12:52:03 ipkg-cl configure Aug 24 12:52:06 thanks Aug 24 12:52:55 Why does "ipkg-cl configure" say 'nothing to be done?' Aug 24 12:54:43 hrw have you updated bug tracker? Aug 24 12:55:27 forgot Aug 24 12:55:56 noted Aug 24 12:56:57 * * OE Bug 2845 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 12:56:59 * *  gtk+-2.10.14-r5 fail to compile Aug 24 12:57:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2845 Aug 24 12:57:25 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb48de283... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gtk+ 2.10.14: fix combo-arrow-size.patch (from Poky) - closes #2845 Aug 24 13:01:00 zecke: remember the strange "helloworld" problem from me yesterday? Aug 24 13:01:40 zecke: the ext3 fs was corrupt. but strange that bitbake worked for all except the one "helloworld.bb". Aug 24 13:02:10 oh Aug 24 13:02:27 mtpush alias is good thing Aug 24 13:07:19 koen: ping Aug 24 13:07:29 cyberdeck: so I guessed right then Aug 24 13:07:33 koen: angstrom install tslib stuff nevermind does device has ts or not Aug 24 13:15:38 hrw: yes, that's a bug that needs fixing Aug 24 13:15:47 it's in DEBUG_APPS Aug 24 13:15:53 which also needs fixing Aug 24 13:16:21 anyone going to the CELF conference in .at? http://celinuxforum.org/node/76 Aug 24 13:17:33 angstrom device and I already have 10G on / used Aug 24 13:17:54 Jin^eLD: depends if celf wants to fund us :) Aug 24 13:17:57 * * OE Bug 2300 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Aug 24 13:18:00 * *  gnuplot 4.2.0 recipe Aug 24 13:18:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2300 Aug 24 13:18:46 koen: have you guys asked? :) Aug 24 13:18:58 I think they extended the call for presentations till the 31. of aug Aug 24 13:19:00 I asked to ask :) Aug 24 13:19:04 aah :) Aug 24 13:19:17 well, let me know, since I live in Vienna I will go there for sure, its nearby Aug 24 13:19:33 would be nice to have a chat with you guys in person :) Aug 24 13:20:10 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r340da434... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux: select proper PATA driver for Alix board Aug 24 13:20:21 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r0135b9c8... 10/ (1 packages/gnuplot/gnuplot_4.2.0.bb): gnuplot: remove stale patch, fixes #2300 Aug 24 13:21:17 Pythion is not build ing ....http://rafb.net/p/a5pT9a97.html Aug 24 13:23:08 maybe i got the but about ncurses + rxvt-unicode Aug 24 13:24:29 i have all staging/*/lib/terminfo link broken ... so when tic is called to build terminfo data it fail. Aug 24 13:24:41 hi Aug 24 13:24:59 do I need gcc 3.x installed on the host to build qemu? Aug 24 13:25:09 Bernardo: yes Aug 24 13:29:01 :( Aug 24 13:29:15 ok, will see if gutsy still has a gcc3 package Aug 24 13:29:26 Bernardo: apt-get install gcc-3.4 Aug 24 13:30:23 hrw: thanks, I was just doing a apt-cache search for it now Aug 24 13:44:05 is anyone else having problems building python? Aug 24 13:45:45 mickey|offline, ping Aug 24 13:46:04 I built gnuradio against 2.5.1 Aug 24 13:46:10 bother Aug 24 13:46:12 recently? Aug 24 13:46:17 Pythion is not build ing ....http://rafb.net/p/a5pT9a97.html Aug 24 13:52:22 hmmm Aug 24 13:52:32 where did I put that guadec notebook Aug 24 13:52:42 Crofton|home: 2 days ago or so Aug 24 13:53:00 let's just say "I am suspicious" Aug 24 13:53:44 I have an OSK build going on another machine Aug 24 13:54:21 It is annoying I need to keep two machines constantly rebuilding to look for problems creeping into the metadata Aug 24 13:56:16 oe website is offline? Aug 24 13:58:43 rwhitby: any experience of dlink dns 323 Aug 24 14:01:10 koen: mono 1.2.5pre5 is building fine (openmoko & xscale) for me -- I'm not sure why it is failing in the autobuilder. Aug 24 14:01:19 koen: what is the machine/distro setup for the autobuilder? Aug 24 14:02:00 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc6ae8d15... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): powertop: update to 1.8 Aug 24 14:02:31 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1df70c8f... 10/ (7 files in 4 dirs): less: update to 406 (from Poky), drop older ones Aug 24 14:02:37 hey ppl Aug 24 14:02:40 koen, can you paste the autobuilder script again Aug 24 14:02:52 I saved it a few days back, in html ..... Aug 24 14:05:40 I'm building some ipks for e17... the pb is, ipkg-make-indexes thinks 0.9.9.038-r4 is newer than 0.9.9+cvs20070721-r5... what do you think, does the problem lies in the receipe (bad versionning) or ipkg-make-indexes (bad sorting) ? Aug 24 14:06:28 would ipkg itself think that 0.9.9.038-r4 is newer than 0.9.9+cvs20070721-r5 ? Aug 24 14:10:07 which char is 'higher'? "." or "+"? Aug 24 14:10:37 according to sort and to experience, "+" is higher Aug 24 14:10:46 in this case, "+" is higher as well Aug 24 14:11:35 the versioning has been changed a while ago (following CVS again) Aug 24 14:12:04 the packages are built, but aren't in repos because of this index thing. Aug 24 14:17:58 * * OE Bug 2857 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:18:00 * * mono issues Aug 24 14:18:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2857 Aug 24 14:18:10 * * OE Bug 2858 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:18:12 * * mono: ARM_FPU_NONE is hardcoded in configure.in Aug 24 14:18:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2858 Aug 24 14:19:58 * * OE Bug 2859 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:19:59 * * mono: is --without-tls the correct TLS option Aug 24 14:20:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2859 Aug 24 14:20:58 * * OE Bug 2860 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:21:00 * * mono: complete packaging Aug 24 14:21:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2860 Aug 24 14:23:11 Anyone mind if I create an omap5912osk bug and use it to keep track of problems people report about that machine? Aug 24 14:24:23 grrrr how can fail angstrom-version-test-20070824-r0 package ... what it do ??? Aug 24 14:26:40 CosmicPenguin: ping Aug 24 14:29:58 * * OE Bug 2861 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:30:00 * * mono: mcs directory (C#) code is not being built Aug 24 14:30:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2861 Aug 24 14:33:58 * * OE Bug 2862 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:34:00 * * mono: finish native package Aug 24 14:34:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2862 Aug 24 14:34:10 * * OE Bug 2863 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:34:12 * * mono: test on other architectures Aug 24 14:34:14 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2863 Aug 24 14:34:57 * * OE Bug 2864 has been created by cliff.brake(AT)gmail.com Aug 24 14:34:59 * * mono: add .NET 2.0 profile Aug 24 14:35:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2864 Aug 24 14:47:12 khem, can you send me an updated copy of your patch with the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE fixed? Aug 24 14:47:27 I am behind, and I can apply it faster that way :) Aug 24 15:02:29 `/win 3 Aug 24 15:05:39 ~lart pcengines for crappy flasher Aug 24 15:05:39 * ibot sends a legion of lawyers after pcengines's head for crappy flasher Aug 24 15:06:53 great Aug 24 15:07:13 drupal upgrade went wonky and now we have a 80% working OE website Aug 24 15:08:01 how many % we've had before? :) Aug 24 15:08:24 80% as well, but a different 80% :) Aug 24 15:08:37 we now have a better wiki, but 'edit' seems to be broken Aug 24 15:08:49 ;-)))) Aug 24 15:09:01 any drupal experts around that know how to fix a broken db/db-schema? Aug 24 15:09:10 koen, that sounds like the definition of a "better wiki" :) Aug 24 15:09:53 Crofton, ;-)) Aug 24 15:10:07 morning Aug 24 15:10:16 rofl Aug 24 15:11:55 hmm, my python issue may be relatede to libtool-1.5.24 .... Aug 24 15:13:04 is python one of the last packages to get processed, because i am at 1600 of 2010 and no issues except the gtk one? Aug 24 15:14:21 koen, did you run the update.php script to update the db ? Aug 24 15:14:29 koen: sounds like you need to rewind and redo Aug 24 15:15:11 asmola_work: gtk is fixed now Aug 24 15:15:36 ok, I am off to meet guys for lunch Aug 24 15:15:44 bbia while Aug 24 15:15:56 ~seen CosmicPenguin Aug 24 15:15:59 cosmicpenguin is currently on #oe (1d 53m 26s) #edev (1d 53m 26s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 5m 45s, last said: 'prpplague: gitweb for creating patches?'. Aug 24 15:16:01 hrw, yeah, i pulled it down, thanks for the help Aug 24 15:16:12 I am failing to build angstrom-console-image since wednesday now Aug 24 15:16:18 hrw: qemu still failed to build Aug 24 15:16:24 Bernardo: 20070613 one? Aug 24 15:16:24 hrw: hi Aug 24 15:16:34 CosmicPenguin: I have geode board here Aug 24 15:16:40 moving up in the world... :) Aug 24 15:16:44 yes, I'll copy the error to pastebin Aug 24 15:16:47 the error is gtk+ is failing Aug 24 15:16:57 khem_: update and build Aug 24 15:17:02 it's inside the sparc cpu emulation code in qemu, I think Aug 24 15:17:08 first I wonder why is this being pulled for a console image Aug 24 15:17:24 hrw: I did that like 8 hours ago Aug 24 15:17:33 hrw: Did something change ? Aug 24 15:17:36 we fixed three hours ago :)\ Aug 24 15:17:38 CosmicPenguin: can cs5536 have hrtimers? there was a patch which added mfgpt support but when I boot 2.6.22 with it it does not recognized Aug 24 15:17:45 khem_: 8h OE is obsolete Aug 24 15:17:57 hrw: ah lemme see :) Aug 24 15:18:11 hrw, that "feature" needs addressing at OEDEM Aug 24 15:18:23 http://pastebin.ca/669260 Aug 24 15:18:26 * Crofton|home beats a dead horse Aug 24 15:18:40 Crofton|home: which one? Aug 24 15:18:40 hrw: yes, it can use hrtimers Aug 24 15:18:46 Crofton|home: coming to OEDEM to beat live ones? Aug 24 15:18:54 well - it does tickless Aug 24 15:18:59 Crofton|home: I wonder if branches will help Aug 24 15:19:22 Someone has to be brave enough to use a monotone branch Aug 24 15:19:27 hrw: do you have all the patches? The dynamic tick one may not have made it into 2.6.22 Aug 24 15:19:34 For fun, you can try the OLPC tree - it for sure works there Aug 24 15:19:36 XorA, I can do FOSDEM out of pocket Aug 24 15:19:52 OEDEM would be very hard to justify to my wife Aug 24 15:19:54 * khem_ sees gtk+/gtk+-2.10.14/combo-arrow-size.patch Aug 24 15:20:02 CosmicPenguin: something other then olpc tree? like patchset tree? Aug 24 15:20:03 that prolly will fix my woes Aug 24 15:20:19 Crofton|home: so you need some excuse for Uni to pay? Aug 24 15:20:22 unless I actually generate income from OE work, and finish "the thesis" Aug 24 15:20:42 nothing I do for Uni could pay for this Aug 24 15:20:54 There is a conf in Germany I may try for though :) Aug 24 15:21:13 khem_ hehehehe Aug 24 15:21:35 * khem_ blames gremlin[it] Aug 24 15:21:44 hrw: the only other tree that might have it would be -mm, but I'm not sure if it made it to him yet Aug 24 15:21:47 maybe it did.... Aug 24 15:21:56 ok , we have to get to lunch b4 everyone else goes Aug 24 15:22:08 I hate this place when school is in session Aug 24 15:23:08 hrw: Aug 24 15:23:10 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.23-rc1/2.6.23-rc1-mm2/broken-out/geode-mfgpt-support-for-geode-class-machines.patch Aug 24 15:23:17 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.23-rc1/2.6.23-rc1-mm2/broken-out/geode-mfgpt-clock-event-device-support.patch Aug 24 15:23:23 If you have those two, then you should be golden Aug 24 15:23:53 ok - will test Aug 24 15:24:16 hrw: you'll need the rest of the clock event / clock source infrastructure of course Aug 24 15:24:49 sure - I am thinking about going to 2.6.23-rc3-hrt2 Aug 24 15:25:32 hrw: what hardware are you using ? Aug 24 15:25:52 khem_: pc engines alix-1c Aug 24 15:27:54 khem_: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tag/alix Aug 24 15:29:12 koen, what was the version used before ? Aug 24 15:32:51 hrw: yeah, I like those boards Aug 24 15:33:00 I wish we chould get them to help us port LinuxBIOS Aug 24 15:33:35 CosmicPenguin: flash chip is soldered so I will not play with linuxbios on it Aug 24 15:34:10 where is your sense of adventure? :) Aug 24 15:34:29 CosmicPenguin: and as their bios updater does not work I plan to not update bios at all for some time Aug 24 15:34:31 hrw: from what I can see, it might just work (tm) Aug 24 15:34:33 CosmicPenguin: ;d Aug 24 15:34:34 but its a risk... :) Aug 24 15:34:59 CosmicPenguin: ;D Aug 24 15:35:43 CosmicPenguin: does lx800 has cpufreq support? Aug 24 15:36:11 no Aug 24 15:36:14 ok Aug 24 15:36:33 its possible to change the frequency, but it really won't save you much power over just a plain 'hlt' Aug 24 15:36:49 There isn't any way to change the voltage, and thats where you really get the good power savings Aug 24 15:37:38 * steliosk looks back at the days when 5v was good for everything Aug 24 15:37:48 steliosk: :D Aug 24 15:38:04 * hrw remember 68040/40MHz which was running at 5V.. Aug 24 15:38:20 6800 running 1 MHz Aug 24 15:38:32 6502 at 1.79 Aug 24 15:39:00 ok we also need it +-12v for rs232 but this was on the upscale models :) Aug 24 15:39:29 hrw: sign of a cheap ass company that used the same crystal for CPU as for PAL :-) Aug 24 15:39:51 XorA: /|\ it was ;D Aug 24 15:39:52 XorA, that is genius HW design :) Aug 24 15:40:07 :) Aug 24 15:40:10 and thats why ntsc versions were a bit other Aug 24 15:40:15 hrw: and z80 normally clocked at 3.58, surprise suprise, twice the speed Aug 24 15:40:37 XorA: and that 3.58 was slower then 1.79 on 6502... Aug 24 15:41:07 * hrw had half of year during studies wasted on z80 programming Aug 24 15:41:10 hrw: in some ways yes, in others no, its a whole load of FUD in that area Aug 24 15:41:25 z80 + asm === hardcore Aug 24 15:41:34 lack of universal registers hurts Aug 24 15:41:55 z80 kicked ass when dealing with data, 6502 did when doing stack based stuff Aug 24 15:43:32 yeah z80 assembly, that was fun. Had to load my assembler from a tape recodered (10-15 minutes) and when something was wrong and the system wend "bye bye" had to do it all over Aug 24 15:44:03 burning Eproms was much faster :) Aug 24 15:44:20 I was learning z80 on industrial controller. we had to load our apps via serial Aug 24 15:44:25 * chouimat misses his 68B09E Aug 24 15:45:03 and now we have big/little/mixed endianess and its not enough ;) Aug 24 15:46:00 anyway have to go. cu Aug 24 15:46:04 steliosk: and with millions of GB and we can't make a program that don't leak memory because who cares RAM is so cheap now ;) Aug 24 15:47:11 chouimat : there happens to other peoples programs...not ours ;) Aug 24 15:47:22 s/there/this Aug 24 15:47:56 steliosk: riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight =p Aug 24 15:48:38 * CosmicPenguin remembers OE before the COW days Aug 24 15:50:43 CosmicPenguin: not only you Aug 24 15:51:19 At least I got to try out all the transistors in my DIMMS.. :) Aug 24 15:51:47 COW? as in copy on write? Aug 24 15:52:23 chouimat: yes Aug 24 15:55:01 non-cow wasn't that long along ? Aug 24 15:55:06 s/?/! Aug 24 15:57:29 At least 2 years Aug 24 15:57:59 over 2 Aug 24 15:58:33 I used to work at ROAD and I merged COW one week before we got more RAM Aug 24 16:00:51 wow time flies Aug 24 16:01:40 yes Aug 24 16:02:27 right holiday time, cya folks Aug 24 16:02:36 ade|desk: have fun Aug 24 16:03:23 cheers Aug 24 16:16:37 XorA|gone: you back home? Aug 24 16:20:56 * * OE Bug 2865 has been created by jbs(AT)bandos.homelinux.com Aug 24 16:20:58 * * Qemu fails to build - error in cpu-exec.c Aug 24 16:21:00 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2865 Aug 24 16:24:54 koen: Don't upgrade to the class changes in poky yet, there is a problem Aug 24 16:26:50 nodens: 4.7.7 -> 5.2 Aug 24 16:27:08 nodens: the update had errors, which is where I am stuck now Aug 24 16:34:08 RP: ok Aug 24 16:43:48 Hi Aug 24 16:45:28 bye Aug 24 16:45:39 hey likewise Aug 24 16:45:43 bye guys, going home for the weekend Aug 24 16:46:04 Good weekend Bernardo Aug 24 16:46:07 * Bernardo is away: Ausente por agora. Aug 24 17:18:30 koen, the wiki module (liquid) seems to cause problems on upgrade Aug 24 17:20:09 koen, also, on the liquid project website they say to drop wiki_access table and then reapply access restrictions Aug 24 17:20:30 (when upgrading from 4.7 to 5.x) Aug 24 17:20:51 the db schemas are not compatibles Aug 24 17:25:20 looks like there is pgsql issues as well Aug 24 17:40:10 SRCDATE="now" for svn is no longer valid? Aug 24 18:03:48 * kristian-m is listening to somafm secret agent via gprs :-) - telephon quality though ;-) Aug 24 18:11:05 hi, having trouble with bitbake php, the compile errors with an incorrect version of flex Aug 24 18:35:14 * khem_ sees hrw|gone Aug 24 18:40:53 khem, ping Aug 24 18:41:08 Howdy Crofton|work__ Aug 24 18:41:31 did you see my note about sending me a patch with the fixed DEFAULT_PREFERENCESD? Aug 24 18:41:38 yes Aug 24 18:41:44 I think you are right Aug 24 18:41:47 I konw it isn't much for me to fix, but I am just doing to many things at once right now Aug 24 18:41:53 * Bernardo is back. Aug 24 18:42:03 OK let me do it :) Aug 24 18:42:20 why dont you commit the current patch and I will send a follow up Aug 24 18:42:31 because I have other changes made to tree :( Aug 24 18:49:42 hi I am hitting this error http://pastebin.ca/669467 Aug 24 18:50:09 any ideas ? Aug 24 18:54:38 sorry no Aug 24 18:54:50 hmmm Aug 24 18:54:56 looks familiar .. Aug 24 18:56:59 Hello Aug 24 18:57:29 Say I have something installed with ipkg, and I delete the source package, can I rebuild it with it's installed components? Aug 24 18:57:35 Can ipkg do that? Aug 24 18:59:57 Having some issues with bitbake php Aug 24 19:00:02 see http://pastebin.ca/669476 Aug 24 19:00:07 any ideas ? Aug 24 19:02:42 khem, I'll go ahead and apply it Aug 24 19:02:50 and fix, I was hoping it was easy :) Aug 24 19:02:51 http://www.fluffyspider.com/resources/brochures/FancyPants_Brochure_May07.pdf Aug 24 19:03:05 hi khem and crofton Aug 24 19:04:44 hello Aug 24 19:14:16 seems like the issue might be with gawk when compiling see http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=35304 Aug 24 19:14:28 Any ideas on how to resolve this ? Aug 24 19:27:49 RP: ping Aug 24 19:37:48 good evening Aug 24 19:37:48 hi ph5 Aug 24 19:37:58 hej woglinde Aug 24 19:38:18 koen: I know there are multiple providers. but why doesn't bitbake select avahi anymore as default when no preferred provider is set? Aug 24 20:37:40 cbrake: are you around? I did get the jffs2 image to build! Aug 24 20:37:46 pH5: I think it selects avahi, I just thought you hadn't noticed that error Aug 24 20:38:02 christopher: great :-) Aug 24 20:38:02 nodens: oe uses a postgres drupal, with all the pains involved Aug 24 20:38:25 christopher: what was the issue? Aug 24 20:38:32 cbrake: bad news is, though, the x11 image which I would like to try is at 18M but I only have the 16M flash. I removed many of the RDEPENDS in the Angstrom file but it never changed the rootfs Aug 24 20:38:45 koen: I tried to package the avahi-python bindings, but didn't want to impose a hard python-native dependency on everyone. Aug 24 20:38:49 cbrake: not too sure. I did an update after I had those errors, and had to do the rebuild, and it worked after that Aug 24 20:38:56 cbrake: probably DFO :) Aug 24 20:39:08 so I added avahi-python as a second avahi provider Aug 24 20:39:21 christopher: try rebuilding task-base. If you change RDEPENDS variables, this is typically required. Aug 24 20:39:36 christopher: at least the ones in conf files Aug 24 20:39:36 cbrake: oh. ok. so just a bitbake task-base then? Aug 24 20:39:46 christopher: bitbake task-base -c rebuild Aug 24 20:40:04 cbrake: I didn't know that. I figured when it parsed it, it would see that it changed etc. I'll give that a shot. I'm trying to take stuff out to get it all to fit Aug 24 20:40:23 cbrake: if it could with 16M, it would be great. I think at least matchbox would work with 16M, right? :) Aug 24 20:41:28 christopher: it just might. But trust me, you are going to find all kinds of cool libs you are going to really want :-) Aug 24 20:41:52 cbrake: I know. we have 32M on order...I am just thinking of the near term. :) Aug 24 20:42:00 christopher: go with something that has 128MB of NAND flash, they you don't ever have to worry about it :-) and it does not cost any more than 16MB of NOR flash. Aug 24 20:42:52 cbrake: I think I have been going off a bad assumption that I can't write directly to nand. Aug 24 20:43:04 cbrake: that is, I use u-boot and transfer the file to ram, then to nand flash. Aug 24 20:43:32 cbrake: guess I could just get a kernel up and going and write it over to the partition, right? I just haven't done it that way before. Aug 24 20:43:51 cbrake: we do have 256MB of nand flash :) Aug 24 20:43:53 christopher: I've never used U-boot with NAND, but I think there is support. What I do with the cm-x270 is boot a small rootfs out of NOR, and then use that to write the NAND rootfs Aug 24 20:44:12 christopher: ahh, you are set then :-) Aug 24 20:44:49 christopher: MTD/JFFS2 support for NAND flash works pretty good -- as long as you keep your partition sizes reasonably small -- 64MB or so Aug 24 20:44:57 cbrake: do you just use the dd command? do you clear it first? Aug 24 20:45:13 cbrake: ok. I can do that. I have it set as 1 large one but it is easy to change Aug 24 20:45:15 christopher: mtd-utils includes utilities for erasing, and writing nand_flash Aug 24 20:47:20 christopher: I wrote up a few tips here on the subject: http://bec-systems.com/web/content/view/66/9/ Aug 24 20:48:34 cbrake: sweet! thanks! I'll give it a shot Aug 24 21:03:11 03raj.khem 07org.oe.dev * r1abc6f97... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): angstrom-*libc: make *libc initial overridable Aug 24 21:12:49 its done Aug 24 21:12:51 yeah Aug 24 21:21:02 will commit now my midpath changes Aug 24 21:42:16 hm ERROR: QA issue: _gobject.la failed sanity test (reference to workdir or installed) Aug 24 21:48:52 03woglinde2 07org.oe.dev * r03afba4c... 10/ (21 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Aug 24 21:49:00 midpath: major rework of midpath Aug 24 21:49:06 * new releas 0.1 Aug 24 21:49:12 * introduce midpath.inc Aug 24 21:49:18 * split midpath-cldc and midpath-cldc-sdl from midpath Aug 24 21:49:41 * seperate out kxml2 from midpath Aug 24 21:49:41 * split midpath-test from midpath Aug 24 21:49:56 jo zecke Aug 24 21:50:30 hi Aug 24 21:53:16 hi! I'll finish a kernel patch to display a smaller font at the collie. It is my first contribution. Aug 24 21:53:48 should I paste it at the bugtraq, mailinglist or commit it myself to the tree? Aug 24 21:53:56 cyberdeck put in the bugtracker so it doesnt get lost Aug 24 21:54:20 the output from "mtn diff" is sufficient? Aug 24 21:54:31 yes Aug 24 21:58:57 * * OE Bug 2866 has been created by budgester(AT)budgester.com Aug 24 21:58:59 * * PHP fails to build Aug 24 21:59:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2866 Aug 24 22:02:58 * * OE Bug 2795 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by simpad(AT)secretlab.de Aug 24 22:03:00 * *  busybox-1.2.1 failed to build Aug 24 22:03:02 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2795 Aug 24 22:34:42 does anybody know out of the head how to migrate my privkey into a new database? Aug 24 22:35:23 privkeys aren't stored in dbs anymore Aug 24 22:35:35 they are in ~/.monotone/keys Aug 24 22:36:35 koen, do yuo have problems with grad students that do not actually want to work there? Aug 24 22:37:32 not yet Aug 24 22:37:37 heh Aug 24 22:38:02 I am dealing with a situation where one guy claims that anything is too much work Aug 24 22:38:07 koen: oh ok. now i get "mtn: misuse: you have no private key to make signatures with". How can i specify which key should be used? Aug 24 22:38:16 so he does not actually have to understand what he is doing Aug 24 22:38:28 and sadly, his advisor lets him get away with it Aug 24 22:38:40 tmbinc: -k Aug 24 22:38:56 great, thanks! Aug 24 22:39:29 some guys forked some stuff today, souly to support the pieces he is responsible for maintaining Aug 24 22:39:30 i want to add a kernel patch against linux-rp-2.6.21 for collie smallfonts at the bugtracker. should i add it to openembedded or to zauruskernel? Aug 24 22:39:39 it is a patch against the current monotone tree. Aug 24 22:44:09 either is fine Aug 24 22:44:32 khem_, I am goign to push your patch after fixing the default preference. Hopefully it is OK. Aug 24 22:45:54 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r6bb8bd3a... 10/ (9 files in 3 dirs): gstreamer: update packages to -good 0.10.6, -bad 0.10.5, -base 0.10.14, -ugly 0.10.6, gstreamer 0.10.14 Aug 24 22:46:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8ed8bbac... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): xserver-xorg: fix -dbg packaging Aug 24 22:46:37 I hope I do not regret that push, I am to aggravated to thinnk clearly :) Aug 24 22:47:53 Crofton|home: my new years resolution for this year was to practice indifference instead of education on morons Aug 24 22:47:57 so far I have failed Aug 24 22:48:03 heh Aug 24 22:48:27 I can tolerate morons to a point Aug 24 22:48:34 since some can be educated Aug 24 22:48:52 and it can be very hard to tell the difference at first Aug 24 22:48:57 Crofton|home: I would suggest a clean build before Aug 24 22:48:57 * * OE Bug 2867 has been created by simpad(AT)secretlab.de Aug 24 22:48:59 * * Clean smallfonts (4x6 and 5x8) for the kernel Aug 24 22:49:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2867 Aug 24 22:49:09 in fact, some people can fool you Aug 24 22:49:17 khem_, I pushed Aug 24 22:49:25 I am in building hell atm Aug 24 22:49:46 * koen couldn't sleep and is now trying to fix drupal again Aug 24 22:49:48 and I am pretty sure the OSK stuff is fine Aug 24 22:49:51 ~hail db backups Aug 24 22:49:52 * ibot bows down to db backups and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 24 22:49:57 Crofton|home: OK, actually I did not test all combo's Aug 24 22:49:59 and we not have alot of people using the other kernels atm Aug 24 22:50:30 Crofton|home: OK I will fix any fallouts Aug 24 22:50:35 koen: I added it to openembedded. Aug 24 22:50:36 you guys are the sane people in my life atm Aug 24 22:50:38 :) Aug 24 22:50:47 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r828c7ed8... 10/ (21 files in 11 dirs): linux-omap : Add support for more machines. Clean up ABI handling. Move toward linux.inc compatible structure. Aug 24 22:51:31 hmmm Aug 24 22:51:38 that backup has the old passwords Aug 24 22:51:41 I think the comment is accurate Aug 24 22:51:43 * koen scratches head Aug 24 22:52:36 Has anyone done any serious work with mtn branches lately? Aug 24 22:53:19 bye all. wish you a nice night (or day)! Aug 24 22:53:27 gn Aug 24 22:54:01 Crofton|home: I have a big branch over here Aug 24 22:54:22 bug $big company is being incompetent in decision making, so I can't merge or publish it Aug 24 22:54:47 rofl Aug 24 22:55:01 do you think it will merge OK? Aug 24 22:55:24 and can you pick commits and push a few across at a time? Aug 24 22:55:45 and not lose history (ala svn does) Aug 24 22:55:46 'mtn pluck' can sort of do that Aug 24 22:56:01 * Crofton|home is thinking how to use OE for real work Aug 24 22:56:10 :) Aug 24 22:56:23 but I propagate from .dev to .dev.idiots every week or so to keep it mergable Aug 24 22:56:58 a lot of my uni problems come from people wanting stbale stuff to work against Aug 24 22:56:58 * * OE Bug 2868 has been created by budgester(AT)budgester.com Aug 24 22:56:59 * * Openldap fails to build Aug 24 22:57:01 this is fine Aug 24 22:57:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2868 Aug 24 22:57:18 however, some people use this as an excuse not to work Aug 24 23:00:37 * koen bashes head against desk Aug 24 23:00:52 it seems the DJs have once again melted a speaker Aug 24 23:01:44 yet another email sent directly to me saying I am there only hope Aug 24 23:04:36 koen: its picking glibc 2.6.1 even when I selected eglibc Aug 24 23:04:57 koen: Actually its building both Aug 24 23:05:09 2 libc's are better than one Aug 24 23:05:21 oh man its messy Aug 24 23:06:10 i'm using qemu to test my images, they all get run with the fs readonly is there a way to make this rw ? Aug 24 23:07:13 I think it could be 2.6.1 thing Aug 24 23:07:30 khem: I think that's the new bitbake code, send the output (and bitbake -g or -nv output) to oe-devel and RP can look at it when he has some time Aug 24 23:08:17 koen: I can try the older bitbake to be sure Aug 24 23:13:11 nodens: restoring the db backup and going 4.7 -> 5.2 instead of 4.7.7 -> 5.2 fix the db errors Aug 24 23:13:39 nodens: the frontpage howevers is sorted asc instead of desc and ignores 'sticky' pages Aug 24 23:28:23 and I still haven't found my guadec notebook Aug 24 23:31:39 yay! Aug 24 23:31:42 found it Aug 24 23:34:48 and I got the lens out of the yashica Aug 24 23:34:55 ~hail insomnia Aug 24 23:34:56 * ibot bows down to insomnia and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 25 00:03:21 * koen discovers http://www.syscompdesign.com/ Aug 25 00:40:19 koen, still awake? Aug 25 00:40:47 koen, great :) Aug 25 00:41:36 awesome link koen Aug 25 00:46:44 can ipkg handle a Package file with several entries for on package ? with different versions ? Aug 25 00:46:58 s/on Package/one Package/ Aug 25 00:50:19 sorry nodens beyond my level of expertise Aug 25 00:51:54 I guess I'll have to learn python and hack ipkg-make-indexes to find out ;) Aug 25 00:53:03 what time zone are you in? Aug 25 00:53:15 CET Aug 25 00:53:25 (UTC+2) Aug 25 00:53:25 most of the gus that know are in EU Aug 25 00:53:32 so mornings are best Aug 25 00:53:36 yup. I'm lucky Aug 25 00:54:03 they are in the same timezone as me :) Aug 25 00:54:15 s/as/than/ Aug 25 00:54:48 insomnia is bad for my english... Aug 25 00:55:04 well I guess it can wait tomorrow ;) Aug 25 00:55:13 :) Aug 25 00:59:05 anyone awake? Aug 25 01:52:20 XorA|gone: you there? Aug 25 02:02:10 few... finally found out why /etc/udev/scripts/network.sh doesn't work (not bringing interfaces up) Aug 25 02:02:23 udev does not have /sbin in its PATH ;) Aug 25 02:29:42 mhmm... this is the second time I run into a bug because init does not have /sbin in its path Aug 25 02:29:52 (same pb with altboot) Aug 25 02:30:14 I wonder if it wouldn't be a good thing to make sure init has the proper env :) Aug 25 02:42:41 Ok. time to sleep a bit. 'n8 ppl. Aug 25 02:49:57 * * OE Bug 2870 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Aug 25 02:49:59 * * enchant-1.3.0-r0-do_compile Aug 25 02:50:01 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2870 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 25 02:59:56 2007