**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 11 02:59:57 2007 Oct 11 03:55:04 * * OE Bug 3142 has been created by lynn.lin(AT)avocent.com Oct 11 03:55:06 * * cannot find package when PACKAGES ${PN} is empty Oct 11 03:55:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3142 Oct 11 05:25:04 * * OE Bug 3043 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by lynn.lin(AT)avocent.com Oct 11 05:25:06 * *  add supervisor mode Oct 11 05:25:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 Oct 11 07:14:34 goodmorning all Oct 11 07:26:16 * * OE Bug 3143 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 07:26:18 * * cramfs and smbfs not defined as DISTRO_FEATURES Oct 11 07:26:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3143 Oct 11 07:26:28 * * OE Bug 3144 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 07:26:30 * * bind-9.3.4-P1 Oct 11 07:26:32 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3144 Oct 11 07:42:04 * * OE Bug 3145 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 07:42:06 * * Upgrade to vlan-1.9 and fixed SRC_URI Oct 11 07:42:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3145 Oct 11 07:57:05 * * OE Bug 2765 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 07:57:05 good morning all Oct 11 07:57:06 * *  Upgrade to net-snmp 5.4.1 Oct 11 07:57:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2765 Oct 11 08:08:46 morning koen Oct 11 08:09:38 I am not sure how to understand the comment on read-only access on the list. Are there any plans to remove read-only anonymous access to OE metadata through monotone? Oct 11 08:10:31 morning Oct 11 08:10:47 Esben: we have read-only GIT mirror of OE Oct 11 08:11:08 monotone is read-only for users and read-write for OE developers Oct 11 08:11:31 hrw: who are "users"? Oct 11 08:12:30 everyone who use OE but do not have own public key in OE databases Oct 11 08:14:04 * * OE Bug 3146 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 08:14:06 * * Samba smbfs and cifs packages Oct 11 08:14:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3146 Oct 11 08:14:38 hrw: I use git for Linux and U-Boot work, as I strongly prefer to have the most direct access to the projects I work on/with. Oct 11 08:14:59 which is the same reason I would dislike going through a git "proxy" for accessing OE metadata... Oct 11 08:15:17 then use monotone for OE metadata Oct 11 08:15:46 great, I was just afraid that this possibility were about to go away :-) Oct 11 08:18:03 no Oct 11 08:18:28 many people^Wvendors asked about ways to contribute - so we added one more Oct 11 08:21:21 and we got tired of the git fanboys Oct 11 08:22:27 fakeroot cannot build. Oct 11 08:22:57 upgrading to a recent version (which is actually available) is needed. Oct 11 08:24:57 how can I test a OE image directly on the compiling host ? Oct 11 08:25:52 koen, hrw : hi ! Oct 11 08:25:58 hey steliosk Oct 11 08:26:13 nud: you can always take a manual look in tmp/rootfs first to see if you have the files present that you expected. Oct 11 08:26:31 Esben: yes but I was thinking about actually running the image Oct 11 08:27:03 nud : qemu probably... Oct 11 08:30:58 ~seen likewise Oct 11 08:31:01 likewise was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 2d 17h 24m 10s ago, saying: 'sakoman: thanks for the wpa .bb. Will probably test it on powerpc w/ madwifi soon'. Oct 11 08:51:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r73709aab... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-libs_3.20.bb): bluez-libs: add 3.20 Oct 11 08:51:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78425520... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): bluez: update to 3.20 Oct 11 08:56:15 * koen develops OEDEM negatives Oct 11 09:22:57 koen: ? Oct 11 09:23:13 hrw: the analog pictures :) Oct 11 09:23:30 * koen is now waiting them to dry before scanning Oct 11 09:26:55 ah Oct 11 09:30:27 hi guys Oct 11 09:30:57 who you would call as the one with the oe-admin-hat? Oct 11 09:31:07 (buildhost foo) Oct 11 10:03:04 * * OE Bug 3147 has been created by eha(AT)doredevelopment.dk Oct 11 10:03:06 * * upgrade to libid3tag-0.15.1b and fixed URI for libmad-0.15. 1b Oct 11 10:03:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3147 Oct 11 11:01:13 w00t, chumby is out for delivery Oct 11 11:03:17 hey Crofton|home Oct 11 11:05:06 gm Oct 11 11:05:15 managed a normal nights sleep :) Oct 11 11:05:49 re Oct 11 11:07:20 hi Crofton|home Oct 11 11:22:44 ~seen zecke Oct 11 11:22:48 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 19h 18m 34s ago, saying: 'XorA: fixed'. Oct 11 11:36:39 Crofton|home : hi Oct 11 11:36:45 gm everyone :) Oct 11 11:39:22 hi steliosk und crofton Oct 11 11:52:19 I sure wish the FOSDEM guys would commit to dates .... Oct 11 11:53:17 is that still in flux? Oct 11 11:53:20 Crofton|home: flight was ok? Oct 11 11:54:04 woglinde : hi ! Oct 11 11:54:14 mickey|berlin : hi ! Oct 11 11:54:15 yes Oct 11 11:54:30 walked off the plane in frankfurt and on the the flight to US Oct 11 11:55:32 Crofton|home: have a nice flight Oct 11 11:55:41 yes Oct 11 11:55:54 the airbus has in flight movies on demand Oct 11 11:56:01 that helped keep me sane Oct 11 11:56:23 managed to watch the end of the show I saw on the way over Oct 11 11:56:25 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r86f48c1b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): sane-srcrevs: bump openmoko-contacts2 to get fix for openmoko #815 Oct 11 11:56:58 * nud would ask for more consistency in task naming Oct 11 11:57:07 cf listtasks vs populate_staging, for instance Oct 11 11:58:23 hi steliosk Oct 11 11:58:52 OEDEM was great. I'll blog about it tomorrow. Oct 11 11:59:20 morning all Oct 11 11:59:31 hi rp Oct 11 11:59:46 * mickey|berlin waves to RP Oct 11 11:59:56 hey RP Oct 11 12:00:15 mickey|berlin : looking at the Dreambox stuff during launch break Oct 11 12:00:23 RP : hi ! Oct 11 12:00:25 * RP waves back to mickey|berlin :) Oct 11 12:00:38 Crofton|home: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/1541260287/ Oct 11 12:00:59 just for the record 100 euro cost me 146.33 usd Oct 11 12:01:12 hi koen Oct 11 12:01:16 I did some stats on the staging changes. There are basically 1000 references to staging in Poky that will have to be vetted :/ Oct 11 12:01:17 very retro :) Oct 11 12:01:19 steliosk: cool. how bad is the divergence? Oct 11 12:01:38 hey woglinde Oct 11 12:01:41 RP: mmmh, makes me very nervous Oct 11 12:02:21 mickey|berlin: The good news is the ones that need fixing are pretty obvious Oct 11 12:03:39 hi all Oct 11 12:03:56 hi florian Oct 11 12:05:03 mickey|berlin : It needs more work than i expected, but i believe its doable withing a logical time frame Oct 11 12:06:39 steliosk: ok, cool. we should consult tmbinc what he thinks about that Oct 11 12:08:17 Is dreambox still bitbake 1.6 based? Oct 11 12:08:31 OEDEM pictures so far: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/sets/72157602364163762/ Oct 11 12:08:41 mickey|berlin : yeah, there are a few things that need to be clarified/agreed. Anyway, i'll probably have some spare time during the weekend to look at it Oct 11 12:10:47 steliosk: cool, thanks for doing that Oct 11 12:10:55 RP: i'm afraid so Oct 11 12:12:08 hmmm many dependencies for OE on FreeBSD amd64 don't compile because it's amd64 :| Oct 11 12:12:56 novceguru use linux *g* Oct 11 12:13:21 *g* ? Oct 11 12:14:04 *g* == grin Oct 11 12:14:07 I was just trying under FreeBSD because I have a few blazing remote machines Oct 11 12:14:08 ah Oct 11 12:14:28 koen: best one :) http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/1541254799_4086867b85_b.jpg Oct 11 12:15:31 koen: what camera do you use for b/w? Oct 11 12:16:22 ynezz: yashica-mat 124g Oct 11 12:16:52 mickey|berlin koen : BTW they have a nice makefile :) Oct 11 12:17:12 * steliosk hides Oct 11 12:17:36 haha Oct 11 12:17:36 do they :) Oct 11 12:17:51 unfortunately there's no target called 'sync-with-dev' ;) Oct 11 12:19:36 mickey|berlin: how do I activate moko-gtkengine? Oct 11 12:20:35 koen: include the gtkrc in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc (or so) Oct 11 12:20:51 might also need to change the corresponding gconf entries, if that doesn't help Oct 11 12:21:02 (see postinst for our matchbox-session) Oct 11 12:21:17 gilligan__: can you give me the link to your python script again ? Oct 11 12:25:19 mickey|berlin: gconf only sets theme Oct 11 12:25:30 gconftool-2 --config-source=xml::$D${sysconfdir}/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --direct --type string --set /desktop/poky/interface/theme openmoko-standard-2 Oct 11 12:25:49 right Oct 11 12:26:07 and the engine has no gtkrc Oct 11 12:26:34 and doing s:pixmap:moko-engine: in the theme rc files just gives parse errors Oct 11 12:26:51 there is a corresponding theme package Oct 11 12:26:52 which should have a gtkrc Oct 11 12:27:33 aha! Oct 11 12:27:41 the engine has a gtkrc, but we don't package it Oct 11 12:27:54 Commit by thomas :: r3146 /trunk/src/target/OM-2007.2/libraries/moko-gtk-engine/ (ChangeLog data/gtkrc): Oct 11 12:28:34 FILES_moko-gtk-theme = "${datadir}/themes" Oct 11 12:34:13 steliosk: hi Oct 11 12:34:24 what are you working on? Oct 11 12:35:06 tmbinc : Breaking dreambox in order to be compatible with .dev :) Oct 11 12:35:16 great! :) Oct 11 12:35:43 i'd really like to see dreambox being usable again in .dev. Oct 11 12:35:48 me too Oct 11 12:35:52 it's been an ancient branch Oct 11 12:36:17 were there any developments for a "stable" branch yet? Oct 11 12:36:19 great. Oct 11 12:36:28 tmbinc: this OEDEM we talked a lot about it. Oct 11 12:36:31 it will soon come Oct 11 12:36:41 however Oct 11 12:36:51 it'll be more of a snapshot-branch-only-real-bugfixes-allowed Oct 11 12:37:07 then again, it depends on whether people want to maintain it Oct 11 12:37:18 well if that works, it's ok for me Oct 11 12:37:34 (i just doubt it - finding a snapshot where everything works ;) Oct 11 12:37:52 tmbinc : We need to define "everything" Oct 11 12:38:12 tmbinc: absolutely. we talked about shaping OE more up for use in real products Oct 11 12:38:15 everything is not our goal Oct 11 12:38:15 but a limited number of combinations Oct 11 12:38:15 and issues will be there... but documented Oct 11 12:38:17 we could have a fixed set of targets which need to build. (With the targets being as different as possible) Oct 11 12:38:24 exactly Oct 11 12:38:33 pity you couldn't be @ OEDEM, you would've been an important voice Oct 11 12:38:41 can you make it to FOSDEM08? Oct 11 12:39:19 hm i could try Oct 11 12:39:43 that'd be good. there will be quite a gathering there since we will most likely found our foundation (sic) Oct 11 12:49:12 any specific reason that files marked for CONFFILES_${PN} ends up in ${PN}-dbg ? Oct 11 12:50:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb0653e60... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc): isane-srcrevs: bump more openmoko stuff, tested on a780 and fic-gta01 Oct 11 12:50:25 mickey|berlin: what foundation are you referring to? Oct 11 12:52:25 the OpenEmbedded e.V. Oct 11 12:53:12 hmm... turns out that files in CONFFILES end in ${PN}-dbg and files in CONFFILES_${PN} goes to ${PN}... who would have thought. Oct 11 12:53:26 is that the intended meaning? Oct 11 13:14:41 Are there any plans for this OpenEmbedded e.V. to "sell" membership to companies for $$$$ ? Oct 11 13:16:07 Esben, I do not think we thought about this Oct 11 13:16:17 Esben: companies can sponsor our OEDEM in Las Vegas ;D Oct 11 13:16:26 Do you know any that would pay? Oct 11 13:16:33 OEDLVM Oct 11 13:16:46 Esben: I think the plan is for the e.V. to manage OE's interests but leave "selling" in that way OE to companies/individuals Oct 11 13:17:01 I suspect the casinos would suspect us of trying to hack the machiens ... Oct 11 13:17:36 * RP can see the reaction if we can walked in with the number of handhelds we could potentially carry... Oct 11 13:17:50 Similar setup is seen for many other organisations (non-OSS at least) Oct 11 13:18:19 gilligan__: in your script, why don't you just use [0-9]{1,3}(\.[0-9]{1,3}){3} for regex matching ? Oct 11 13:18:30 Esben, yes, my research group at school does this Oct 11 13:18:49 Esben: At a previous OEDEM we did discuss creating a list of known friendly OE companies who can provide OE services... Oct 11 13:18:51 I guess many companies are more willing to donate if they get something more concrete back, like for example mentioning as a "gold member" or something silly like that. Oct 11 13:19:20 Esben: What would they want apart from the title though? Oct 11 13:19:32 I'm sure we can find a way to recognize companies who help us with expenses realted to OE Oct 11 13:19:37 RP: I am not sure, maybe not much. Oct 11 13:19:41 RP, sometimes the title is enough :) Oct 11 13:20:13 RP: look at KDE e.V. - they have 'KDE Partner' name which costs 10000/year Oct 11 13:20:14 My advisor markets Affiliate status to companies as a good way to recruit people from our school Oct 11 13:20:19 or even more Oct 11 13:20:21 hi Oct 11 13:20:25 hi zecke Oct 11 13:20:40 some might want to have part in the decission making, but I am not at all suggesting that. I don't see that as a very good thing for an OSS organisation like this. Oct 11 13:21:01 Its certainly something to consider Oct 11 13:21:11 Sounds good :-) Oct 11 13:21:23 I don't think we would sell decision making positions, these are earned Oct 11 13:21:45 * steliosk remembers the "Boston tea party".... No "taxation" for no representation Oct 11 13:22:00 Although I am working for a very small consultant company, I might be able to convince management to buy such a membership. Depending on the price tag ofcourse... Oct 11 13:22:03 Crofton|home: Agreed, we probably have that area covered :) Oct 11 13:22:16 Crofton|home: I completely agree. Oct 11 13:22:43 Open hand is buying their way in by hiring OE devs :) Oct 11 13:22:58 Esben : If companies want to support OE, they can do it in a variety of ways. Money is one Oct 11 13:23:06 This is very healthy for OE devs :) Oct 11 13:23:06 Crofton|home: you mean OpenedHand? Oct 11 13:23:11 Crofton|home: shhh ;-) Oct 11 13:23:17 steliosk: I guess development effort/time is another ;-) Oct 11 13:23:21 :) Oct 11 13:23:29 Crofton|home: Openmoko isn't doing too badly either ;-) Oct 11 13:23:32 Esben : exactly Oct 11 13:23:33 yeah Oct 11 13:23:56 * steliosk sees the prices of OE capable developers sky-rocket Oct 11 13:24:05 Companies that admit to using open source really help us Oct 11 13:24:17 I am allowed to spend 20% of my time on OSS development, and currently it is decided that it will be spent on OE and OpenMoko fun :-) Oct 11 13:24:34 esben fine Oct 11 13:24:36 Esben: Great :) Oct 11 13:24:49 Esben : Writing documentation could be *very* usefull at this point Oct 11 13:25:17 steliosk: I am not that much of a documentation guy ;-) Oct 11 13:25:51 would be nice with much more documentation on OE though... Oct 11 13:27:19 I wouldn't mind taking over maintenance responsibility for a number of packages though. Oct 11 13:28:22 zecke!!!!!!!!!!! Oct 11 13:29:04 wogline, hey I am at the burgeramt... Oct 11 13:29:11 zecke aeh Oct 11 13:29:13 okay Oct 11 13:29:29 Esben: Which packages out of interest? Oct 11 13:29:34 then send me the stuff in the evening Oct 11 13:29:44 I wanted to get the german citizen, so they can not send me to gitmo Oct 11 13:30:49 RP: well, right now I am developing a small network centric product for a customer based on OE, so some of the network packages could be fine. Oct 11 13:31:11 But I would _REALLY_ like to get the meta-toolchain package work :-) Oct 11 13:31:33 Esben: It should already work ;-) Oct 11 13:31:40 Esben: which arch are you using? Oct 11 13:32:47 powerpc Oct 11 13:33:10 but it did not work for i586 either, but I will retry later with new metadata later today or tomorrow. Oct 11 13:33:34 I might have broken it for i586 while trying to find out why it broke for powerpc Oct 11 13:35:55 I am also interested in knowing more about the process of Koen's packaged-staging approach. It sounds like a very good idea. Oct 11 13:36:45 Esben: I've never tried powerpc but i586 works in poky Oct 11 13:36:49 (qemux86) Oct 11 13:39:08 Esben : Did you asked on the ml a few weeks ago about powerpc not building on OE ? Oct 11 13:39:28 * steliosk remembers and email while in USA Oct 11 13:39:30 Esben: There has been discussion on the mailing list about packaged staging. The next step is probably to rearrange staging Oct 11 13:40:17 steliosk: yes, I might have done that. Oct 11 13:40:44 Esben : Which cpu are u using ? Oct 11 13:41:24 mpc8270 (603e core) Oct 11 13:43:02 hmmm strange that's the same as efika. It should build Oct 11 13:44:26 gcc-cross-sdk fails Oct 11 13:45:01 it tries to build for host using target header files (from staging) Oct 11 13:45:18 and powerpc headers are not all compatible with x86 Oct 11 13:58:53 morning Oct 11 13:59:31 Esben : I think also that the sdk does not work. I though you were referring to the actual toolchain/image not building Oct 11 13:59:41 nono, that is working fine :-) Oct 11 13:59:57 gcc-cross works fine for both targets I am working on Oct 11 14:00:02 but gcc-cross-sdk is broken Oct 11 14:00:12 * Esben ponders Oct 11 14:00:40 why do my kernel package suddenly drop in a big vmlinux-* file in /boot after updating metadata? Oct 11 14:04:02 hmm.. it comes from kernel-vmlinux... Oct 11 14:12:39 Esben : what gcc/binutils/glibc are you using ? Oct 11 14:14:02 gcc 4.1.1 and glibc 2.5 Oct 11 14:14:42 turns out that I enabled package_ipk also, and this pulls in kernel-vmlinux. Oct 11 14:14:55 I don't need ipk for this target, so I just switched it off. Oct 11 14:22:03 hm.. how does one update the ipkg package lists? Oct 11 14:22:17 i mean.. how to call package_update_index_ipk without building a rootfs? Oct 11 14:22:39 bitbake package-index Oct 11 14:22:55 ah.. tnx Oct 11 14:25:06 crofton|home : It looks like the 99$ efika is no more :( Oct 11 14:40:37 bummer Oct 11 14:40:41 what happened? Oct 11 14:41:22 back to $200? Oct 11 14:57:18 gerwinin: ping :) Oct 11 15:08:46 crofton|home : New model on the way... But i think euro/dollar had something to do with it Oct 11 15:09:45 99*0.6=59.4 Oct 11 15:10:25 steliosk: http://finance.yahoo.com/currency Oct 11 15:10:58 urg Oct 11 15:11:22 yeah, the dollar has lost significant value Oct 11 15:11:44 ok off to school Oct 11 15:11:57 Crofton|home: see you later Oct 11 15:16:52 zecke: it looks like I can be at t-dose on saterday Oct 11 15:17:34 but not on sunday Oct 11 15:18:00 good Oct 11 15:18:26 koen: even the sunday thing is good, I can insult you then and train strikes tomorrow... Oct 11 15:19:05 gerwinin: could you send me directions to your place? Oct 11 15:19:15 zecke: I even have a car on saterday, so I could pick up the server if gerwinin has it ready Oct 11 15:19:25 hey! Oct 11 15:19:39 * zecke somehow lost mickeyl today Oct 11 15:19:45 my boss went on holiday :) Oct 11 15:30:12 hello...can anyone tell me where the locale-base-en is set? mine is set to locale-base-en-gb but i think I want it as locale-base-en-us Oct 11 15:30:26 en-gb is other then en-us Oct 11 15:32:14 can one of you tell me how i can create a .h file to use psplash ? Oct 11 15:32:26 rob__w: the instructions are in the bb file Oct 11 15:32:37 christopher, Oct 11 15:32:38 just use the make-image-header.sh and a image file Oct 11 15:32:41 oh thanks Oct 11 15:32:47 that creates a h file... Oct 11 15:32:54 and you replace the hand-img file with that Oct 11 15:32:57 or the bar img Oct 11 15:33:09 hrw: I am not sure what you are saying? Oct 11 15:33:30 hrw: whenever I load my system and it says it is configuring locale-base-en-gb, it has some crash output. Oct 11 15:33:44 still boots up...but it concerns me so I figured the gb was great britain and that I would need us? Oct 11 15:33:46 is that wrong? Oct 11 15:34:38 christopher: I am not familiar with locales Oct 11 15:35:23 hrw: I don't even know what it is doing. I was thinking it had to do with how files are written to and how things like keyboards are used. Oct 11 15:36:43 locales are for stuff like decimal seperators Oct 11 15:36:58 http://rafb.net/p/RR7Eva79.html <-- does someone know about ld-linux crashes ? Oct 11 15:38:42 03eha 07org.oe.dev * r757555f8... 10/ (1 packages/logrotate/logrotate_3.7.1.bb): logrotate: fix packaing, closes #2844e Oct 11 15:38:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc5093a84... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: add smbfs and cramfs distro features Oct 11 15:38:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf162c73a... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): disapproval of revision 'c5093a8451fb4abb52c3c01148a1b9f6139e116e' Oct 11 15:38:55 03eha 07org.oe.dev * rde358d48... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: add cramfs and smbfs DISTRO_FEATURES, closes #3143 Oct 11 15:39:00 03eha 07org.oe.dev * rfaf9fc83... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): bind: update to 9.3.4 Oct 11 15:39:07 03eha 07org.oe.dev * r2dbe16c6... 10/ (1 packages/vlan/vlan_1.9.bb): vlan: update to 1.9 Oct 11 15:39:43 koen: hmmm.ok. so, how will having one as gb or one as us affect it? just that some countries will use commas instead of decimal points? Oct 11 15:49:04 * * OE Bug 3143 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 15:49:06 * *  cramfs and smbfs not defined as DISTRO_FEATURES Oct 11 15:49:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3143 Oct 11 15:51:05 * * OE Bug 2844 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 15:51:07 * *  lograte fails to package Oct 11 15:51:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2844 Oct 11 15:51:16 * * OE Bug 3144 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 15:51:18 * *  bind-9.3.4-P1 Oct 11 15:51:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3144 Oct 11 15:51:28 * * OE Bug 3148 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 11 15:51:30 * * nmap-4.20-r0-do_fetch Oct 11 15:51:32 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3148 Oct 11 16:07:04 * * OE Bug 3145 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 16:07:06 * *  Upgrade to vlan-1.9 and fixed SRC_URI Oct 11 16:07:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3145 Oct 11 16:07:16 * * OE Bug 3149 has been created by autobuild(AT)openembedded.org Oct 11 16:07:18 * * nmap-4.20-r0-do_configure Oct 11 16:07:20 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3149 Oct 11 16:07:42 koen: I have a cronjob for the mtn2git script, are you interested in it? should I post the ml? Oct 11 16:10:39 zecke: put it in contrib Oct 11 16:12:12 nah Oct 11 16:12:20 not useful as it hardcodes my home dir Oct 11 16:14:02 zecke: btwm why isn't the git tree on oe.org? Oct 11 16:14:46 koen: git-web, cron job to repack my tree, git-server are all not ltg.org and I don't want to maintain the installation ;) Oct 11 16:15:09 it send a bad signal by not being on oe.org Oct 11 16:15:36 sakoman: ping Oct 11 16:15:56 scruggs:pong Oct 11 16:15:59 create a frameset around it ;) Oct 11 16:16:53 hey, wanted to ask if you would be willing to create an archive of your org.sakoman.dev collection set for easy downloading? :) Oct 11 16:18:09 done! Oct 11 16:18:25 you're the man! thanks! Oct 11 16:18:48 you found it then? Oct 11 16:19:20 yep - fetching it now Oct 11 16:19:38 OK, tried to put it in an obvious place :-) Oct 11 16:20:18 I really like the way you've setup the machine stuff... it works really well with gumstix Oct 11 16:21:05 not for the typical gumstix beginner, but if you know what you are doing it's ok :-) Oct 11 16:21:34 the bluetooth & sound stuff isn't tested yet Oct 11 16:21:46 let me know if you need to change anything Oct 11 16:21:47 * koen wonders why craig is so touchy about OE being broken when his kernel patches keep oopsing the kernel Oct 11 16:22:19 koen: which patches are giving trouble? Oct 11 16:22:33 you mean "which aren't" Oct 11 16:22:58 hmm . . . no known issues for me Oct 11 16:22:58 the ethernet one oopses on ifup , the framebuffer one doesn't work, the wifi ones have the wrong gpio Oct 11 16:23:01 etc, etc Oct 11 16:23:29 and touchscreen one does not detect itself Oct 11 16:23:42 ah, that's cause you are using bleeding edge hw that doesn't yet have the sw done! Oct 11 16:24:01 hrw: even worse, the touchscreen has *no support at all* inthe gumstix kernel Oct 11 16:24:19 we had to dig out a patch from the interweb and change it Oct 11 16:24:29 I try to stay away from the new stuff Oct 11 16:24:43 have my hands full supporting my own hw! Oct 11 16:24:58 hi everyone Oct 11 16:25:00 I wonder how they tested the touchscreen controller on that board? Oct 11 16:25:17 perhaps it isn't tested yet! Oct 11 16:25:30 my thoughts exactly :) Oct 11 16:25:52 is it officially shipping yet? Oct 11 16:26:08 seems like they've had a number of hardware defects lately, especially with the verdex daughtercards Oct 11 16:26:25 the consolelcd-vx is shipping Oct 11 16:26:39 yeah -- they've bitten off a lot for such a small company Oct 11 16:27:06 * Crofton os trying to figure out a sane way to handle kernel builds for gumstix Oct 11 16:27:24 where the kernel patches needed depend on daughter acrds Oct 11 16:27:38 koen: did you buy keynote? Oct 11 16:27:43 koen : What is that i need to copy so that mtn has the same key on different machines ? Oct 11 16:28:04 steliosk: private key you mean? Oct 11 16:28:08 yes Oct 11 16:28:13 mickey|ICE1093: hey! Oct 11 16:28:19 in .monotone/keys Oct 11 16:28:23 mickey|ICE1093: did you enjoy talking with peter? Oct 11 16:28:32 ok thanks Oct 11 16:28:35 Crofton: good luck :-) Oct 11 16:28:35 Crofton: I think in most cases it could be based off of verdex vs basix/connex - at least as far as patches are concerned Oct 11 16:28:50 scruggs: I agree Oct 11 16:29:03 yeah, but the trick is to change the patches used by linux.inc Oct 11 16:29:17 we can make basic stuff work ok Oct 11 16:29:27 why not have a different kernel recipe for each mobo type? Oct 11 16:29:42 the patches follow boards Oct 11 16:29:46 Crofton: it's the linux.inc constraint that makes your job hard Oct 11 16:29:59 I am not sure how many different combinations there are Oct 11 16:30:04 got it Oct 11 16:31:20 zecke: it was.... interesting. he's quite a charismatic personality Oct 11 16:31:31 hehe Oct 11 16:31:42 excellent, zecke is looking at starting to create some summaries from OEDEM Oct 11 16:33:12 * Crofton also wonders if it is worth forwarding porting some of the gumstix patches to later kernels Oct 11 16:36:30 you could've prepared me Oct 11 16:36:30 :D Oct 11 16:36:37 yay Oct 11 16:36:39 zecke: i actually really enjoyed talking with the hardware guy though Oct 11 16:36:41 David? Oct 11 16:36:47 Daniel Oct 11 16:37:01 * mickey|ICE1093 considers buying a gumstix just for fun Oct 11 16:37:03 what would be the most fun thing to do with one? Oct 11 16:37:20 mickey|ICE1093: Daniel Mack, he is at xing as well ;) Oct 11 16:37:22 make it work :) Oct 11 16:37:35 right Oct 11 16:37:36 zecke: ah, cool. Oct 11 16:38:26 might be one the first actual business contacts i have @ xing ;) Oct 11 16:38:28 most of the others are just friends and old colleagues from uni Oct 11 16:38:56 mickey|ICE1093 : All jokes aside, i think its a very interesting platform for tinkering. Most board we have access to have no or limited gpio Oct 11 16:39:28 mickey|ICE1093 : So this is a nice way to get a few leds bliking Oct 11 16:40:47 steliosk: yea Oct 11 16:41:15 mickey|ICE1093, we should see if you get get openmoko on this Oct 11 16:41:16 http://gumstix.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=194 Oct 11 16:41:22 when it is ready Oct 11 16:41:51 LEDS! Oct 11 16:41:51 this is a really good idea Oct 11 16:41:51 * mickey|ICE1093 forsees a blinkenlights project Oct 11 16:43:04 the gumstix are fun to tinker with Oct 11 16:45:33 * mickey|ICE1093 tries accessing this page via gprs Oct 11 16:45:35 ..... Oct 11 16:45:52 the golaith board has gsm/gps/accelermoter Oct 11 16:46:50 and for the record, the otter box opened easily here :) Oct 11 16:47:11 scruggs: great for hobbyists. mixed bag if you are trying to do a commercial product with them. Oct 11 16:47:42 depends on the volume of commercial product would be my guess Oct 11 16:47:45 mickey|ICE1093, off-topic but .. hm.. eplus/grps online .. how much does that cost ? are there flatrates for that? Oct 11 16:48:28 Crofton: yes, good for sales in hundreds to low thousands. after that it makes sense to roll your own. Oct 11 16:48:44 that fills a void Oct 11 16:49:05 a "gateway" product Oct 11 16:49:06 yes -- allows you to leverage their volumes and pcb/test investment Oct 11 16:49:23 yep Oct 11 16:49:26 at a certain point though the economies tip the other way Oct 11 16:49:49 they are a real challenge from a physical design point of view Oct 11 16:50:16 mounting wasn't given enough thought imho Oct 11 16:50:20 mechanical design? mounting in product? Oct 11 16:50:23 yes Oct 11 16:50:24 heh Oct 11 16:50:34 yes, I have wondered this Oct 11 16:51:20 I agree - I'd gladly have a slightly larger footprint in a pcb if it allowed for better mounting Oct 11 16:51:50 gilligan there are flatrates Oct 11 16:52:15 verdex is slightly better, but connex is a real pita Oct 11 16:52:53 gilligan if you can read german http://www.eplus.de/tarife/13/13_11/13_11.asp Oct 11 16:52:58 connex is "done" & relatively inexpensive though, so I'm sticking with that for now Oct 11 16:53:31 my contract manufacturer doesn't like mounting them though! Oct 11 16:53:41 we need elves Oct 11 16:53:53 elves? Oct 11 16:54:00 tiny hands :-) Oct 11 16:54:04 * * OE Bug 2903 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 16:54:06 * *  claws-plugin-maildir-0.24.4-r0-do_configure Oct 11 16:54:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2903 Oct 11 16:54:17 * * OE Bug 3057 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 16:54:19 * *  claws-plugin-maildir-0.24.4-r0-do_compile Oct 11 16:54:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3057 Oct 11 16:54:28 * * OE Bug 3058 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 16:54:30 * *  claws-plugin-mailmbox-1.13-r1-do_compile Oct 11 16:54:33 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3058 Oct 11 16:54:40 * * OE Bug 3121 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Oct 11 16:54:43 * *  claws-plugin-rssyl-0.13-r0-do_compile Oct 11 16:54:45 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3121 Oct 11 16:55:52 scruggs: does any of your stuff use spi? Oct 11 16:56:16 hi vivijim Oct 11 16:56:23 * steliosk hopes that sokoman does not show up on the 9 oclock news for using child labour to assemble the boards :) Oct 11 16:56:32 hi woglinde Oct 11 16:56:38 hi guys Oct 11 16:56:57 sakoman: no, never have tried that on a gumstix Oct 11 16:57:04 vivijim : hi ! How was the trip ? Oct 11 16:57:27 sakoman, assembling the stack at OEDEM was amusing, I forgot my reading glasses Oct 11 16:57:29 scruggs: breaks the wifistix driver when I enable it in the kernel :-( Oct 11 16:57:57 Crofton: I use reading glasses when mounting them Oct 11 16:58:01 steliosk: it was short and fine! what about yours? Oct 11 16:58:20 Crofton: and when hand soldering those damn smd parts Oct 11 16:58:50 vivijim : 6 hours including the layovers and i was home ;) Oct 11 16:59:41 RP: Did you tried to build the sdk using OE and not poky ? Oct 11 16:59:47 scruggs: I have a user space support for spi so I can use that till I figure it out Oct 11 17:00:43 has it worked for you in the past? Oct 11 17:01:05 hadn't tried it till this week Oct 11 17:02:56 I think there's something wonky with the marvel driver... need to investigate that other driver for the chipset Oct 11 17:04:02 speaking of real work, my thesis looks good, terse, but no extraneous material to wad through :) Oct 11 17:04:42 Crofton: bet thats nice to come home to Oct 11 17:07:27 scruggs: what the issue you see with the Marvell driver? Oct 11 17:08:02 the kernel oops with iwconfig when it brings up wlan0 Oct 11 17:08:06 Crofton: is that a light at the end of the tunnel :-) Oct 11 17:08:22 hmm, guys, I have CONFIG_VIDEO_TUNER=m in my kernel config, but when I bitbake the kernel and then look at the .config file in the work directory - this option was somehow stripped away Oct 11 17:08:25 is that possible? Oct 11 17:08:31 scruggs: yeah, I've been meaning to look at that Oct 11 17:08:57 and btw what is .config.old? Oct 11 17:11:07 doh, trying to tell the kernel config to produce the tuner.ko module, but I must be missing something Oct 11 17:18:54 I sure hope so, need to give it a close look Oct 11 17:19:05 and see if there are any short comments with larege consequences Oct 11 17:36:57 sweet Oct 11 17:37:04 my replacement plastic came in Oct 11 17:37:20 now I can stop mooching :) Oct 11 17:38:27 guys, any idea? I have CONFIG_VIDEO_TUNER in the kernel config, but when I bitbake my kernel tuner.ko is not being built Oct 11 17:38:34 i.e. I have it set to =m Oct 11 17:38:45 all runs through without errors Oct 11 17:39:45 is there some arc dependent stuff that will prevent certain modules from building? Oct 11 17:39:57 try running the config thru menuconfig Oct 11 17:40:19 ok let me try that.. Oct 11 17:41:42 koen, I found a large to small nokia power adapter in frankfurt, but it was 10 euros Oct 11 17:42:06 ah Oct 11 17:42:16 damn capitalists Oct 11 17:42:18 yours was 3? Oct 11 17:42:21 yeah Oct 11 17:42:22 4 Oct 11 17:42:25 ah Oct 11 17:42:34 I'll look around some more :) Oct 11 17:44:42 when I manually call the run.do_compile script - will it overwrite my kernel configuration? Oct 11 17:56:28 Jin^eLD, it shouldn't Oct 11 17:56:42 http://www.blip.tv/file/340692/ Oct 11 17:59:59 Shoragan: thx Oct 11 18:06:48 hey guys, is there an easy way to compile mono for OE without fight the bitbake wizardry? Oct 11 18:07:57 kumpera: good luck :-) Oct 11 18:08:21 cbrake: fighting bitbake or getting around it? Oct 11 18:09:02 I mean, the bitbake recipe is for 1.2.5.1, but I need to use svk trunk Oct 11 18:09:21 kumpera: both :-) Oct 11 18:09:31 steliosk: I have to admit to not 100% testing it in OE :/ Oct 11 18:09:42 kumpera: it should be fairly easy to create _svn.bb versions Oct 11 18:09:50 steliosk: Others have had it working in OE though afaik Oct 11 18:10:35 koen: thanks for the hint, a manual make menuconfig did the trick, I m ust be missing something in my configuration Oct 11 18:11:27 cbrake: from bitbake docs, I cannot use SRC_URI with ssh + svn, just plan svn Oct 11 18:12:00 kumpera: you should be able to -- just a min ... Oct 11 18:13:34 proto=svn+ssh, it's on the docs, it's me been stupid :( Oct 11 18:14:11 RP, http://www.flickr.com/photos/elvisgrotto/sets/72157601433486956/ Oct 11 18:14:58 kumpera: oh, I wanted to create an svn mono recpie anyways ... Oct 11 18:14:59 hmm, maybe friends only Oct 11 18:15:37 Henryk: have you done any work on it? Oct 11 18:15:41 http://www.flickr.com/photos/elvisgrotto/ Oct 11 18:15:47 not yet, wanted to do it this evening Oct 11 18:15:47 and look for motorcycle shots Oct 11 18:27:58 could some one push something to the repository? Oct 11 18:28:14 Crofton: I love roads like that :) Oct 11 18:28:15 svolpe: ping? Oct 11 18:28:27 Henryk, pong. Oct 11 18:28:28 good evening Oct 11 18:29:06 svolpe: There was a user in #openmoko who had problems building directfb, log.do_configure output is here: http://www.pastebin.ca/733284 Oct 11 18:29:10 the problem is "checking for libvncserver-config... /usr/bin/libvncserver-config" Oct 11 18:29:28 argh :} Oct 11 18:29:29 simple patch here http://people.openmoko.org/henryk/directfb-disable-vnc.patch Oct 11 18:29:45 Henryk, ok, I will look at it and try to push it tonight. Oct 11 18:29:53 (or, of course, you might want to properly enable vnc support) Oct 11 18:29:57 thanks Oct 11 18:30:49 Crofton: http://www.rpsys.net/~richard/cadwell2006-3.jpg Oct 11 18:31:18 Crofton: or my favourite, http://www.rpsys.net/mx1.jpg :) Oct 11 18:32:21 chumby has arrived Oct 11 18:32:24 time to go home Oct 11 18:32:40 RP, if you ever get over this way, I can try and get you a bike Oct 11 18:32:54 Crofton: thanks :) Oct 11 18:51:42 koen: my boss is going to buy me iwork Oct 11 19:14:28 Anyone done busybox 1.7.x yet? Oct 11 19:15:20 ing Oct 11 19:21:36 sakoman: ping Oct 11 19:22:56 * cbrake starts cm-x270 upgrade to 2.6.23 ... Oct 11 19:34:22 XorA|gone: PING Oct 11 19:37:05 scruggs: pong Oct 11 19:38:43 have you tried adding ext2 support in your custom machine conf for any of your builds? Oct 11 19:39:03 no -- haven't had a need Oct 11 19:39:08 have you? Oct 11 19:39:25 I'm trying to do that now and after the build I don't see ext2.ko in tmp/rootfs Oct 11 19:39:42 hmmm . . . let me take a look Oct 11 19:39:43 but enabling other modules does get them installed there? Oct 11 19:40:31 thanks Oct 11 19:41:32 think I see the problem -- hang on Oct 11 19:46:05 scruggs: try grabbing a new copy of task-base-gumstix Oct 11 19:46:32 sakoman: ok Oct 11 19:48:00 scruggs: and the gumstix-custom.conf if you want autoload Oct 11 19:50:42 sakoman: thanks! Oct 11 19:51:09 let em know if it works! nice to have help testing :-) Oct 11 19:51:15 em = me Oct 11 19:52:06 morning Oct 11 19:52:19 cbrake: I have cm-x270 patches for 2.6.23-rc9 if you want Oct 11 19:52:39 cbrake: you need to drop 0009 and a bit change of 0001 - rest applies Oct 11 19:53:02 hrw: I'm already done git rebasing, so unless you fixed anything else I should be set Oct 11 19:53:26 no - only updated patches to apply Oct 11 19:53:36 I do not have cm-x270 here Oct 11 19:53:56 hrw: ok, building now. Your linux-2.6.22 merge worked fine :-) Oct 11 19:54:13 ;) Oct 11 19:54:35 is there equivalent of "svn cp" in monotone? Oct 11 19:54:45 no ;( Oct 11 19:55:22 cbrake: but you can move linux-2.6.22/cm-x270/ into linux/cm-x270/ and then only updated patches put into linux-2.6.23/cm-x270/ Oct 11 19:55:43 so 2.6.22 will get them from linux/ and 2.6.23 from linux/ and linux-2.6.23/ Oct 11 19:57:42 hrw: I'll probably just keep them separate for now unless you see a big advantage to keeping some common? Oct 11 19:58:07 not at all Oct 11 19:58:11 hrw: ok Oct 11 19:59:54 hrw: I should probably just remove the avr32 stuff from the 2.6.23 recipe for now ? Oct 11 20:00:40 yes Oct 11 20:01:11 let koen decide on it Oct 11 20:13:12 * hrw -> bed Oct 11 20:13:13 bye Oct 11 20:14:41 morning Oct 11 20:20:11 evening Oct 11 20:24:48 i've been working on oe today Oct 11 20:25:26 freescale mini-itx board. I have some patches and packages I can contribute. Oct 11 20:27:10 I'll check back later Oct 11 20:50:39 guys, any idea what can cause a missing Unknown symbol __might_sleep symbol? afaik its exported somewhere in sched.c, any hints what I could have screwed up? :> Oct 11 21:16:09 zecke: I sadly can't come to t-dose, since I don't have a new drivers license yet :( Oct 11 21:17:03 koen: let ny{n,m}ke drive? Oct 11 21:17:46 t-dose? Oct 11 21:17:52 koen: I found your wallet?! ;) Oct 11 21:18:03 zecke: that would be too much to ask Oct 11 21:20:24 yepp Oct 11 21:20:36 Eindhoven is not a town for tourists Oct 11 21:21:09 koen: you don't even get a letter tomorrow stating that you are allowed to drive a car? Oct 11 21:22:18 If it was the UK the DVLA would probably "forget" you'd passed your test and ask you to retake it :/ Oct 11 21:26:52 hi steliosk are you there? Oct 11 21:30:20 zecke: yes, but I have to give that letter away tomorrow when requesting a new license Oct 11 21:31:13 koen: request one on monday? Oct 11 21:32:45 then I won't have one in time for work where I actually need it to get into the building Oct 11 21:35:24 koen: RP: Should we add versioned (DEPENDS) when using SRCREV to the ipk? Oct 11 21:36:07 ? Oct 11 21:36:35 zecke: versioned DEPENDS on what? Oct 11 21:38:17 drive with out a license, lots of people do that here Oct 11 21:38:17 well, actually I'm too tired. But basicly the issue of tarpor of #openmoko Oct 11 21:38:46 crofton hm and sheriff dont put them in jail? Oct 11 21:38:54 tarpor? Oct 11 21:39:00 well, maybe if they get caught Oct 11 21:54:04 hi gang - does current support x64 for the build machine? seeing a wierd error on libtool-native... Oct 11 21:55:12 x64? Oct 11 21:57:09 x64_64? ;-) Oct 11 21:57:19 yeah, that one. Oct 11 21:57:45 IA64, if you will. Oct 11 21:59:52 x86_64? Oct 11 22:00:49 yeah. Oct 11 22:03:30 don't see any bugs or FAQs on this. Oct 11 22:04:04 HopsNBarley: I build on x86_64 (AMD64) and it works just fine Oct 11 22:04:31 scruggs, thanks for the data point. i'll dig a bit deeper. Oct 11 22:04:35 there is the well known problem that x86_64 is not supported by pysco. also on gentoo amd64 qemu is a bit more trickier. but other than that it should work Oct 11 22:05:01 Henryk, saw the qemu problem - but i'm not that far yet (-; Oct 11 22:21:19 * cbrake wonders why OE is building 4MB 2.6.23 kernel images Oct 11 22:21:38 2.6.22 is 1.3MB Oct 11 22:27:46 cbrake: binutils? 2.6.23 solved the linker stuff differently compared to what we have patched in 2.6.22 (AFAIK) Oct 11 22:29:23 cbrake: Its a known issue with binutils. There are patches on the arm kernel list Oct 11 22:29:39 zecke: RP thanks -- I'll get those then Oct 11 22:29:41 cbrake: or patches in the linux-rp tree in poky Oct 11 22:29:50 RP: excellent, thanks Oct 11 22:29:58 RP: koen proposed to name your buildbot "poky mon" Oct 11 22:30:15 zecke: :) Oct 11 22:34:21 wow, 3GB image files =:-\ Oct 11 22:34:29 scruggs: did the ext2 stuff work? Oct 11 22:37:04 I'm building 2.6.23 too with the same problem. what's the fix ? Oct 11 22:37:21 3GB images? Wow, linux is getting bigger. Oct 11 22:37:31 Soon it will catch up to vista. Oct 11 22:37:33 mwester: yup, more NAND flash ... Oct 11 22:37:51 hehe Oct 11 22:38:14 dfoley: I'm guessing: http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/poky/trunk/meta/packages/linux/linux-rp-2.6.23/binutils-buildid-arm.patch Oct 11 22:38:20 dfoley: trying now Oct 11 22:38:28 * mwester speculates on a deal between Seagate and Linus Oct 11 22:44:16 sakoman: sure did.. actually I just flashed the first rootfs built from your collection and it worked great! Wifi came up, ntp got the time, cf card mounted, lcd got the splash screen... life is good! Oct 11 22:45:33 steliosk: ping Oct 11 22:45:38 sweet! have you tried audio? Oct 11 22:45:45 and ipkg was already setup right too Oct 11 22:46:10 not yet - I'll try it now Oct 11 22:46:21 dfoley: that works, pushing shortly ... Oct 11 22:46:26 If you copy the first part of my image file you can set up your own feed too (with url change of course) Oct 11 22:46:48 That is a really nice feature, makes development fun Oct 11 22:46:57 Goodbye scp :-) Oct 11 22:47:26 yep - noticed that and got it going in this build and just installed the nfs kernel module from the feed :) Oct 11 22:48:02 It's nice doing real work with good tools Oct 11 22:48:11 amen Oct 11 22:48:25 Almost lets me forget the past few weeks of pain :-) Oct 11 22:49:22 let me know if you find any other issues Oct 11 22:50:04 if = when :-) Oct 11 22:51:10 of course :) Oct 11 23:03:18 sakoman: sound works fine too Oct 11 23:09:42 scruggs: wonderful! how about bluetooth :-) Oct 11 23:26:29 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r02dba1b0... 10/ (16 files in 5 dirs): linux 2.6.23: add kernel version, cm-x270 support, and binutils patch from poky Oct 11 23:44:02 gah, mono svn is harder than I thought. too many dependencies, doesn't want to fit on the neo Oct 11 23:48:31 Henryk: so mono is becoming less friendly to embedded, how much space is it using? Oct 11 23:49:41 it's probably not a space issue per se, but more a issue of freaking dependencies. Like libmono-system2.0-cil pulling in Mono.Mozilla and Winforms and stuff Oct 11 23:49:49 RP, the patch goes into the the kernel Oct 11 23:49:53 build Oct 11 23:50:04 I think we did it for linuix.inc already Oct 11 23:50:08 I'll debug that later, for now I'll mount /usr/lib/mono from the SD-Card Oct 11 23:56:28 cbrake: with my quickly made mono_svn recipe install libmono-system2.0-cil installs about 30MB of files into /usr/lib/mono, including 1.0 files, so these are clearly bad dependencies Oct 11 23:56:46 Henryk: nod Oct 11 23:58:16 Henryk: I started a XSP recipe, but have not had time to finish it -- I'm interested to see how the runtime dependencies work :-) Oct 12 00:11:29 yeah 2.6.23 is normal size now Oct 12 00:13:04 has anyone used uClibc + thumb applications ? Oct 12 00:15:11 dfoley: should work if it doesn't let us know Oct 12 00:20:36 I only tried with linux 2.6.20 (hangs in init) Oct 12 00:21:07 I can build pretty much the same for glibc, and a thumb application works Ok. Oct 12 00:21:36 try .29 or SVN trunk Oct 12 00:21:52 yes, i'm using .29 Oct 12 00:22:16 Do you have thumb configs enabed in kernel Oct 12 00:23:57 khem: pretty sure Oct 12 00:24:28 works ok for me Oct 12 00:26:36 Did you configure uclibc itelf to be compiled in thumb Oct 12 00:28:19 don't think so. what i did was include tune-thumb.inc, but when I would build an application i would ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET="thumb" Oct 12 00:28:32 uClibc wouldn't build with ARM_INSTRUCTION_SET="thumb" Oct 12 00:34:34 khem: is there a distro/machine configuration in OE that uses uClibc + thumb ? Oct 12 00:35:18 dfoley: not that I know of yet Oct 12 00:36:13 I am getting ERROR: No providers of build target angstrom-console-image (for []) Oct 12 00:36:23 anyone seeing this Oct 12 00:36:51 night Oct 12 00:37:01 zecke: night Oct 12 00:37:45 khem: guess: BBPATH or BBFILES not correctly set? Oct 12 00:37:52 zecke: hmmm Oct 12 00:38:04 same worked before I went on vacation Oct 12 00:38:07 lemme check Oct 12 00:38:24 or: http://repo.or.cz/w/org.openembedded.dev.git?a=commit;h=6d04e0085db5f0ce40b88f6675c271fc5e6c884b Oct 12 00:38:48 try console-image Oct 12 00:39:12 hmm Oct 12 00:39:15 zecke: we don't use mtn anymore Oct 12 00:39:30 we still use it Oct 12 00:39:57 do you think I should start using git Oct 12 00:40:10 how far down are we with switching Oct 12 00:40:26 no, committers should not switch Oct 12 00:40:29 far away Oct 12 00:40:33 heh ok Oct 12 00:40:56 bitbake console-image worked Oct 12 00:40:58 khem: we had a conference the last days. We will provide a git read only tree was one of the conclusions Oct 12 00:41:00 I missed a lot Oct 12 00:41:18 zecke: makes sense Oct 12 00:41:31 http://repo.or.cz/w/org.openembedded.dev.git?a=commit;h=a85535722f704a489e910a861703da89a1c42b65 did the rename Oct 12 00:41:42 zecke: I was seeing the geeky pictures from koen :) Oct 12 00:41:55 using the analog camera? Oct 12 00:42:06 anyway, good night and take care Oct 12 00:42:30 we have probably hard to read conference minutes in the wiki and we will/should prepare a summary/protocol Oct 12 00:42:35 yep see you Oct 12 01:01:53 khem: are u using uclibc thumb in armv4t ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 12 02:59:56 2007