**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 17 02:59:57 2007 Dec 17 04:15:05 * * OE Bug 3482 has been created by trs80(AT)ucc.asn.au Dec 17 04:15:07 * * reiserfsprogs-3.6.19 no longer available from namesys. com or angstrom-distribution.org Dec 17 04:15:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3482 Dec 17 05:00:01 moo Dec 17 06:31:30 03awilcox 07org.oe.dev * r9f549d07... 10/ (12 files in 6 dirs): Dec 17 06:31:30 Rename uboot-utils to u-boot-utils-native. u-boot-utils now makes Dec 17 06:31:30 target u-boot utility fw_setenv for one distro. Dec 17 07:41:13 I added do_stage task into my .bb file. However it is not detected by bitbake -c listtasks command. Dec 17 07:41:28 Am I missing something? Dec 17 08:37:20 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r61be8a30... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Dec 17 08:37:20 linux-openmoko_2.6.22.5.bb : commit the work for OM bug #910 now people Dec 17 08:37:20 have had plenty of warning. Now kernel-image will flash new kernel in Dec 17 08:37:20 postinst. Its noisy and leaves the kernel in / for now to ease debugging Dec 17 08:37:20 of any problems people have. Dec 17 08:56:03 morning Dec 17 09:07:36 morning all Dec 17 09:10:35 I added do_stage task into my .bb file. However it is not detected by bitbake -c listtasks command. Dec 17 09:10:44 Am I missing something? Dec 17 09:14:00 Petu: It calls it do_populate_staging in the task list Dec 17 09:15:20 So if I do bitbake -c do_populate_staging it should call my do_stage task? Dec 17 09:15:56 Petu: yes Dec 17 09:16:11 You might need a -f to force it if its run previously Dec 17 09:16:38 RP: Thanks a lot. I'll try it immediately. Dec 17 09:19:16 -c populate_staging Dec 17 09:20:05 hrw: Of course. Thanks. Dec 17 09:21:43 hrw: gah ;-) Dec 17 09:22:01 * RP needs coffee or something... Dec 17 09:26:45 RP & hrw: Worked like a charm. Thanks a lot. :) Dec 17 09:54:05 good morning all ! Dec 17 10:00:42 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7515f439... 10/ (1 conf/distro/unslung.conf): unslung.conf: Add some more preferred providers to stop external-toolchain interfering. Dec 17 11:01:18 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r6430e9e1... 10/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Dec 17 11:01:18 timezones: drop from OE in favor of tzdata as specified in RFC Dec 17 11:01:18 * update information in OE to reflect the change where appropriate Dec 17 11:01:23 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r813e8c86... 10/ (1 MAINTAINERS): MAINTAINERS: update my and CoreDump's entry Dec 17 11:01:30 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * r408b205e... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): glibmm: update to 2.14.2 (with DEFAULT_PREF -1). Closes 3265. Dec 17 11:01:34 03Laibsch 07org.oe.dev * rf88bbdd4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): guile-native: add DEPENDS for gmp-native Dec 17 11:12:04 hi all! Dec 17 11:15:43 ~lart banks and stupid terms 'certainty of fate' Dec 17 11:15:43 * ibot drops a truckload of VAXen on banks and stupid terms 'certainty of fate' Dec 17 11:16:15 next Ill have to pray to beelzebub to get cheques Dec 17 11:22:17 XorA|gone : Well i spend the last wo days trying to get a check cashed at a bank. Today i went at 10:00 in the morning they were servicing number 139 and i got 517... Dec 17 11:23:30 steliosk: do a reverse robbery :-) Dec 17 11:23:46 lol Dec 17 11:24:07 =D Dec 17 11:27:38 This is a government related bank, so reverse robberies are not in their services..... Dec 17 11:29:24 * steliosk thinks that 2007 is going away bad Dec 17 11:29:47 we have to move to new office as our lease expires on January.... Dec 17 11:49:51 re Dec 17 11:55:50 I have created a dual-GUI image with both X11 and GPE Dec 17 11:56:22 Apparently, this might lead to problems when dealing with SDL apps Dec 17 11:56:48 Laibsch: you mean X11 and Opie? Dec 17 11:57:02 We have already discussed a few possible solutions in #hentges.net but so far have not found one that would work Dec 17 11:57:18 bluelightning: Sorry. Of course you are right. X11 and Opie Dec 17 11:58:18 Laibsch: well, renaming libraries, having separate -qt packages for all SDL-depent apps would work, but it's messy Dec 17 11:58:23 I wonder if an image can conflict with packages so that I can at least make sure that no SDL apps are installed in either Opie or X11 Dec 17 11:59:04 I guess, I could install block-out-sdl.ipk which does nothing but conflict with both libsdl libs. But can it also be done straight in the image definition? Dec 17 11:59:59 of course, but it would just break image-creation unti you manually remove all SDL apps which _might_ pull in libSDL Dec 17 12:00:35 Laibsch: image cant conflict with packages in good way Dec 17 12:00:50 Laibsch: i you make them conflict on building time what about users + feeds? Dec 17 12:01:01 Laibsch: all you need to do is fix the linking problem in libsdl-qt and apps will work with either Dec 17 12:02:01 XorA|gone: I'd happily do that. Dec 17 12:02:04 ;-) Dec 17 12:02:19 XorA|gone: which problem are you referring to? Dec 17 12:02:24 XorA|gone: I wonder if that would be easy and if so why nobody has done it? Dec 17 12:02:35 * Laibsch sees a volunteer ;-) Dec 17 12:02:38 bluelightning: libsdl-qt ends up depending on g++ stuff, that the x11 apps know nothing about Dec 17 12:03:05 bluelightning: you need to find some where to isolate the c++ needed to link with qt from the SDL core Dec 17 12:03:11 where can I find OE manual in PDF? I remember I downloaded from OE but now I can't find it Dec 17 12:03:17 XorA|gone: hmm ok Dec 17 12:03:23 bluelightning: so the same library is compatible for both environments Dec 17 12:03:37 ffc: openembedded.org -> click on documentation at the left side Dec 17 12:03:40 bluelightning: and of course update the qt patch to latest SDL :-) Dec 17 12:04:16 XorA|gone: heh, as if I didn't have enough to do already :) Dec 17 12:05:19 Laibsch: only HTML format seems to be available Dec 17 12:07:01 !oebug 3481 Dec 17 12:07:02 * * Bug 3481, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-12-16 03:47 Dec 17 12:07:03 * * : libsdl-qpe and libsdl-x11 conflict with each other Dec 17 12:07:05 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3481 Dec 17 12:07:22 ffc: google found http://www.openembedded.org/%7Ekoen/usermanual.pdf rather quickly with "openembedded manual pdf" Dec 17 12:08:05 * * OE Bug 3483 has been created by  Dec 17 12:08:07 * * guile-native-1.6.4 fails do_compile, time for removal? Dec 17 12:08:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3483 Dec 17 12:08:10 ups, I forgot the easy way... thanks Dec 17 12:16:30 RP: ping Dec 17 12:16:37 Jin^eLD: ping Dec 17 12:16:41 pong even Dec 17 12:16:44 * RP sighs Dec 17 12:17:03 RP: another weird thing during meta toolchain generation... Dec 17 12:17:06 CP|home: cannot stat `/home/jin/openembedded/trunk/build/bco/staging/pkgdata/all-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/curl': No such file or directory Dec 17 12:17:14 the package it is looking for is not in "all-angstrom..." Dec 17 12:17:16 it's in arm Dec 17 12:17:32 do you know how it chooses the directory to look for stuff? Dec 17 12:17:53 it's the meta-toolchain do_populate_sdk task Dec 17 12:18:02 Jin^eLD: No idea offhand I'm afraid Dec 17 12:18:17 :( Dec 17 12:18:35 well, for now I'll move the stuff manually, too much time pressure Dec 17 12:18:57 I guess I'll have to take a day and do some step by step debugging there Dec 17 12:35:52 does anybody own an N810 by chance? Dec 17 12:36:37 can it playback these lovely 350Mb divx videos smoothly? Dec 17 12:39:29 I think hrw has one, right? Dec 17 12:39:34 Laibsch: NO Dec 17 12:39:47 Oh, my mistake Dec 17 12:39:55 nOKIA Poland does not even know that such things exists Dec 17 12:40:22 Weren't there a few people selected for the dev program? mickey_away and XorA? Dec 17 12:41:25 there were few Dec 17 12:41:38 but n810 was first sold in US Dec 17 12:41:50 it just started to appear in selected countries Dec 17 12:43:20 I played with prototype of n810 recently but for short time and it was not mine device Dec 17 12:47:05 I was wondering if it has any gfx accel worth a damn Dec 17 12:48:29 I can not answer this question due to things which I know Dec 17 12:50:33 ;) Dec 17 12:55:42 CoreDump: Processor wise its pretty much the same as the n800 Dec 17 12:57:06 I haven't played with either Dec 17 12:57:30 You'll find more people with the n800 than the n810 though ;-) Dec 17 12:57:36 yay, spitz can't download ipkg package lists without adding swap Dec 17 12:57:43 RP: good point =D Dec 17 13:00:04 * * OE Bug 1796 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Dec 17 13:00:06 * *  Unabe to install timezone information because of a missing dependency. Dec 17 13:00:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1796 Dec 17 13:00:17 * * OE Bug 2804 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by joaquinduran(AT)adtelecom.es Dec 17 13:00:19 * *  Updating the version of gtkmm library. Dec 17 13:00:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2804 Dec 17 13:09:24 Laibsch: n810 discount code doesnt work yet :-( even though it is for sale Dec 17 13:13:59 after converting a divx to 320x* and switching the VT to QVGA the video playback is almost acceptable Dec 17 13:14:13 (on a spitz) Dec 17 13:27:19 n8x0 can be much faster in video Dec 17 13:47:12 who and why is trying to do that? /etc/init.d/rc: eval: 1: cannot create /dev/tty0: No such device or address Dec 17 13:47:18 is it the volatiles script? Dec 17 13:47:29 why is it assuming tty0 by default? Dec 17 14:24:14 good morning boys and girls Dec 17 14:24:32 hey! Dec 17 14:25:13 gm Dec 17 14:25:42 * Crofton|home heads back to painting Dec 17 14:25:51 hi zecke_, mickeyl Dec 17 14:27:52 hi gang - via email, it's been pointed out that my u-boot commit is a bit broken: i applied simple string substitution to task-base, and now we have a native package in an RDEPENDS (whoops). Dec 17 14:28:24 how can we fix that best? Dec 17 14:28:39 tracking this backwards, there is a bit of a larger issue. u-boot-utils-native builds just the mkimage program, which is only needed by certain kernel recipies. Dec 17 14:29:28 RP: I think it is fine to forward it Dec 17 14:29:35 so, i'm proposing moving that dependency there (there are only a few ppc kernels which need it) and neutering the DISTRO|MACHINE FEATURE u-boot-utils Dec 17 14:29:50 i think that gets us what we want. Dec 17 14:30:03 * * OE Bug 3482 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 17 14:30:05 * *  reiserfsprogs-3.6.19 no longer available from namesys. com or angstrom-distribution.org Dec 17 14:30:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3482 Dec 17 14:32:33 shouldn't the kernels that need mkimahe DEPEND on u-boot-utils-native? Dec 17 14:33:55 zecke_: ok Dec 17 14:33:57 yeah, that's my opinion, rather than machine/distro_feature. Dec 17 14:34:30 Crofton|work: They should Dec 17 14:35:01 RP: probably warn him as well? Dec 17 14:36:25 ok, now I am really going to paint Dec 17 14:51:40 zecke_: Warn who? Dec 17 14:53:43 any idea who or what fills in the tty values in the volatile scripts? Dec 17 14:55:07 populate-volatiles.sh is using the hardcoded tty0 Dec 17 14:55:39 RP: nevermind :) Dec 17 14:57:38 morning Dec 17 14:58:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8d821e33... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): angstrom: bump to RC1.1 Dec 17 14:59:51 Jin^eLD: Yes, that's a problem for SlugOS as well. Dec 17 15:01:25 I see... shall we submit a PR wich a changerequest or something?# Dec 17 15:03:53 :) The problem is to figure out what to change it to Dec 17 15:04:09 http://www.wired.com/techbiz/people/magazine/15-07/ff_hansreiser?currentPage=all#? Dec 17 15:04:14 Holy shit! Dec 17 15:04:25 mwester: would the active console tty be the wrong one? Dec 17 15:05:00 Laibsch: that case gets wierder and wierder Dec 17 15:06:06 genius and insanity are close together Dec 17 15:06:25 I'm too busy at work right now to be able to look at it, I hope to have more time later this week. The active TTY makes a lot of sense to me, but I'm not aware of some of the "oddities" of other OE devices ;) Dec 17 15:06:29 Maybe #oe will soon be an insanity asylum ;-) Dec 17 15:06:40 Laibsch: I thought it already was Dec 17 15:06:46 mwester: I tested it with the active tty and it seemed to make no problems Dec 17 15:06:52 but of course no idea about other devices Dec 17 15:07:12 Well, XorA|gone that tells you you are still sane. All the insane people like me don't realize ;-) Dec 17 15:07:13 Then propose it and see what the response might be -- I think that would work. Dec 17 15:07:39 propose - how ? here or is there a dedicated place for that? Dec 17 15:07:47 time for Insanity Anonymous Dec 17 15:10:57 Jin^eLD: The mailing list? Dec 17 15:11:01 roger that Dec 17 15:14:57 fwiw, I always found tty1 to be more sane than tty0 Dec 17 15:15:08 well I only have ttyS1 Dec 17 15:43:56 <_diego_> hi Dec 17 15:44:30 <_diego_> anybody have noticed errors in building linux_2.6.21 ? Dec 17 15:44:55 <_diego_> it complains about missing file defconfig Dec 17 16:16:04 * * OE Bug 3484 has been created by jackill.mf(AT)gmail.com Dec 17 16:16:07 * * SD and CF memory cards don't mount on hx4700 Dec 17 16:16:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3484 Dec 17 16:26:42 has anybody compiled mipv6_2.0.2 sucessfully in a 2.6.23 kernel? Dec 17 16:27:25 I've seen bug #3425 but want to see if it's a single problem Dec 17 16:33:03 * * OE Bug 3253 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr Dec 17 16:33:05 * *  Belkin bt card not working - hciattach fails with bcsp error messages Dec 17 16:33:07 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3253 Dec 17 16:33:15 * * OE Bug 2660 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xyzaid(AT)yahoo.fr Dec 17 16:33:17 * *  smbfs cannot mount ms windows share Dec 17 16:33:19 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2660 Dec 17 16:36:40 Hi! Dec 17 16:38:36 03jeremy_laine 07org.oe.dev * r1d90679b... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Dec 17 16:38:36 linux-2.6.23: improve LEDs support on mpc8313e-rdb Dec 17 16:38:36 * improve LEDs patch to support all LEDs on mpc8313e-rdb board Dec 17 16:38:36 * build LEDs support into mpc8313e-rdb / mpc8323e-rdb kernels Dec 17 16:53:21 does anyone know why some drivers automatically add /dev entries and some do not? is it something that needs to be done extra in the driver code? Dec 17 16:54:34 <_diego_> I suspect it's something about udev Dec 17 16:54:50 <_diego_> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev.html Dec 17 16:55:04 afaik udev just monitors the /dev to check if those entries appear/disappear Dec 17 16:55:10 and then triggers scripts Dec 17 16:55:14 so thats on user level already Dec 17 16:55:23 I mean the kernel mechanism that creates those dev entries when you load a module Dec 17 16:57:10 Jin^eLD: udev is creating these files Dec 17 16:57:35 Jin^eLD: some create the entries because udev has a rule to create these nodes Dec 17 16:57:37 zecke: udev inside the kernel, not the userland udev that I was mentioning? Dec 17 16:58:03 Jin^eLD: there is no udev in the kernel :) Dec 17 16:58:14 Jin^eLD: check /etc/udev/ for the rules it has Dec 17 16:58:15 I have no userland udev installed on my rootfs, still some drivers have dev entries and some do not Dec 17 16:58:26 and it is completely not related to my static dev entries, they are ignored Dec 17 16:58:42 I do not even have an /etc/udev Dec 17 16:59:04 Jin^eLD: hehe, my world would collapse if the kernel would create nodes in /dev :) Dec 17 16:59:23 mhm Dec 17 16:59:26 who does it then? Dec 17 16:59:33 I really have no udev on my rootfs Dec 17 16:59:43 Jin^eLD: grep for mknod in /etc/init.d? Dec 17 17:00:06 <_diego_> entries dissappear when you remove module from memory? Dec 17 17:00:16 yes Dec 17 17:00:58 and appear when I load the module Dec 17 17:01:01 <_diego_> do you have devfs? Dec 17 17:02:24 zecke: only some few mknods for dedicated stuff, no generic Dec 17 17:02:33 _diego_: don't say that word here :) Dec 17 17:02:43 Jin^eLD: do you have a old kernel? <= 2.6.10? Dec 17 17:02:57 zecke: no, latest, 2.6.24-rc5 Dec 17 17:03:23 _diego_: I do not know, but based on zecke's reaction I would say "no" - since I base my stuff on Angstrom Dec 17 17:03:27 :) Dec 17 17:04:14 drivers that are character devices but that are register with misc_register() do not seem to get the entries Dec 17 17:04:35 <_diego_> uhm, if i have problems in building an image for x86, based on angstrong, can i ask here, or there is a better place? Dec 17 17:06:38 <_diego_> s/angstrong/angstrom Dec 17 17:07:35 you may want to try #angstrom as well Dec 17 17:08:08 so.. no further ideas on the dev stuff? :> Dec 17 17:09:19 <_diego_> no sorry... i'm puzzled too ^^ Dec 17 17:49:14 Laibsch: Did you change your email address? Dec 17 17:53:07 no Dec 17 17:53:17 What is your email address? Dec 17 17:53:28 The one for the bts? Dec 17 17:53:33 yes Dec 17 17:53:50 bugzilla.openembedded.org@rolf.leggewie.biz Dec 17 17:53:52 IIRC Dec 17 17:55:36 ok, lemme look into that Dec 17 17:55:57 nice Dec 17 17:56:00 thank you Dec 17 18:41:55 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r5e43d3e4... 10/ (1 packages/curl/curl_7.16.4.bb): Dec 17 18:41:55 packages/curl/{curl,curl-native}: Do not try to use libssh2. Dec 17 18:41:55 My curl-native build broke on libssh2, it is definately not needed for normal Dec 17 18:41:55 operations and it is highly unlikely that we ever had libssh2 on for a non-native Dec 17 18:41:55 build. Dec 17 18:42:05 03awilcox 07org.oe.dev * r487bc5fe... 10/ (7 files in 5 dirs): Dec 17 18:42:05 Remove u-boot-utils-native from RDEPENDS. Remove openprotium specificity. Dec 17 18:42:05 Add u-boot-utils-native dependency in linux-linstation kernels. Dec 17 18:42:05 Fix of previous u-boot commit. Dec 17 19:20:55 hey florian Dec 17 19:30:59 re Dec 17 19:49:35 florian: how did your build go? Dec 17 19:50:51 Jin^eLD: the basic meta-toolchain built, but I had to fix binutils-cross-sdk Dec 17 19:51:09 Jin^eLD: I still need to test it, but that's something I can do this evening. Dec 17 19:51:14 florian: I think RP commited the .debug fix Dec 17 19:51:26 Jin^eLD: ah, even better Dec 17 19:51:34 have you unpacked the sdk tar? Dec 17 19:51:41 I wonder if you had those weird home directories in there Dec 17 19:52:00 Jin^eLD: not yet, but i can do this within the next half an hour Dec 17 19:53:11 * XorA|gone is scared of job adverts that want VB.net and arm7 experience Dec 17 19:53:29 XorA|gone: heh Dec 17 19:54:03 XorA|gone: Sounds like a job they can't pay enough for ;) Dec 17 19:57:38 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4f66f87b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): ncurses 5.4: Fix host includes issue for the case ${prefix} != /usr. Dec 17 20:08:48 Has anyone seen this behaviour before: "bitbake/bin/bitbake: /usr/bin/env: bad interpreter: Permission denied" ? Dec 17 20:09:09 (trying to get OE built for openmoko) Dec 17 20:11:06 VB.net **AND** arm7 ?? Oh dear. Dec 17 20:31:59 Witch: do u have python working on your host ? Dec 17 20:37:35 nin Dec 17 20:41:49 mickeyl: ping Dec 17 20:41:55 pöng Dec 17 20:42:49 mickeyl: You know when Koen is typically around? Dec 17 20:43:04 usually on typical .eu times Dec 17 20:43:16 ah k Dec 17 20:43:27 usually he's here at this time Dec 17 20:43:58 Had some user account questions for him when he pops on Dec 17 20:44:11 right. i'll remind him to ping you Dec 17 20:44:28 thanks Dec 17 21:23:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdb54ef97... 10/ (1 contrib/angstrom/build-release.sh): angstrom build release.sh: build base-image instead of minimal image per RFC on angstrom-devel mailinglist Dec 17 21:36:50 Jin|away: I can confirm these srange directories Dec 17 21:37:18 Khem: How do I find out? Dec 17 21:37:24 morning all Dec 17 21:37:45 hi Fique Dec 17 21:37:58 openmoko@openmoko-devel:~/moko$ python Dec 17 21:38:00 Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, May 2 2007, 16:56:35) Dec 17 21:38:01 [GCC 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)] on linux2 Dec 17 21:38:03 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. Dec 17 21:56:25 Witch:what does /usr/bin/env python Dec 17 21:56:28 say Dec 17 21:57:07 Khem: openmoko@openmoko-devel:~/moko$ /usr/bin/env python Dec 17 21:57:09 Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, May 2 2007, 16:56:35) Dec 17 21:57:10 [GCC 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)] on linux2 Dec 17 21:57:12 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. Dec 17 21:57:13 >>> Dec 17 21:58:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9e9f9696... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux.inc: merge in poky stuff Dec 17 21:59:18 Witch: hmmm do u have file permission to execute bitbake/bin/bitbake Dec 17 22:05:59 Khem: openmoko@openmoko-devel:~/moko$ ls -al bitbake/bin/bitbake Dec 17 22:06:00 -rwxr-xr-x 1 openmoko openmoko 6553 2007-12-16 10:53 bitbake/bin/bitbake Dec 17 22:06:24 * Witch goes to sleep, I'll catch you tomorrow... Dec 17 22:06:28 Thanks so far! Dec 17 22:10:47 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r4f411dbe... 10/ (1 conf/machine/cm-x270.conf): cm-x270.conf: allow user to override kernel version Dec 17 23:02:04 Hi I have an Ipaq39xx that I installed opie and familiar on -- I was looking for a way to upgrade the browser app to one that would support ssl and I was recomnmended to use Angstrom--However on the http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/ website I could find no information on installing it on my hardware (or any info in the wiki for that matter) Dec 17 23:03:04 * * OE Bug 3485 has been created by undrwater(AT)gmail.com Dec 17 23:03:06 * * Angstrom image for Tosa unavailable Dec 17 23:03:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3485 Dec 17 23:08:59 hi greentux Dec 17 23:09:29 hi florian Dec 17 23:11:35 RP: Have you seen this homedir path in the toolchain packages too? Dec 17 23:12:09 florian: I've seen people mention it but I've not seen it myself Dec 17 23:13:56 RP: It looks like a file in $WORKDIR gets packaged with its full path somehow. Dec 17 23:14:09 florian: not good :/ Dec 17 23:16:45 RP: its an empty directory in fact: its seems to be the "lists" directory in /meta-toolchain-1.0-r0/sdk/image/usr/lib/ipkg Dec 17 23:17:28 florian: Is it not being created by ipkg itself? Dec 17 23:18:41 RP: I think so yes... Dec 17 23:57:16 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r5dc6982e... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): Dec 17 23:57:16 task-base: Add NLS modules for VFAT support. Dec 17 23:57:16 * Add to task-base-kernel26, as vfat is pretty basic feature. Dec 17 23:57:16 Worth refactoring to vfat feature still, I guess. Dec 17 23:57:32 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * rbc668ae9... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2007.1.conf): Dec 17 23:57:32 angstrom-2007.1.conf: Bump to RC1.2. Dec 17 23:57:32 * Fixes inability to mount vfat for linux-handhelds-2.6 devices. Dec 18 00:08:00 Ugh - did I just see vfat being added to task-base-kernel26? Dec 18 00:08:26 who is pfalcon on IRC? Dec 18 00:09:18 RP: your defconfig-qemuarm for linux-rp-2.6.22 from poky is needed on OE too Dec 18 00:10:10 RP: I was trying xorg-kdrive 1.4 from OE on angstrom and my touchscreen would not work downgrading to 1.3 works pretty well Dec 18 00:10:22 RP: have you run into something similar ? Dec 18 00:10:27 rwhitby: psokolovksy Dec 18 00:10:52 does anyone else think that vfat is not an essential feature for task-base-kernel26 ? Dec 18 00:11:23 Best bet is to bring it up in the mailing list Dec 18 00:11:34 Not many ppl will be up at this time of day Dec 18 00:11:38 or just revert it ;-) Dec 18 00:12:00 you just can't do things like that to task-base without an RFC. Dec 18 00:12:05 vfat is cool because the Memory cards that you buy are preformated into fat I guess so you do not need to reformat it Dec 18 00:12:19 if kernel supports Dec 18 00:12:50 cool it may be, but it's of no use on a kernel26 machine which has no means for connecting a memory card to it, therefore it should not be in task-base-kernel26 Dec 18 00:13:17 appletalk support is cool too, but you don't see us putting that in task-base-kernel26 ... Dec 18 00:13:39 well yes :) Dec 18 00:14:31 * rwhitby looks at task-base to see the exact change Dec 18 00:14:33 so it is meant to be for a least featured device Dec 18 00:14:50 it is meant to be what is strictly required to boot a 2.6 kernel, and nothing else. Dec 18 00:15:08 well in that case I think you can ignore vfat Dec 18 00:15:24 Khem: the issue is that it bloats the rootfs for all machines. Dec 18 00:15:57 yeah ok Dec 18 00:16:16 And the comment in the file "If you don't need VFAT support - don't enable them in defconfig." is not true, cause some machines will want them in defconfig as modules, so they can be installed later if you do want to support vfat devices. Dec 18 00:18:23 rwhitby: yes makes sense Dec 18 00:27:48 message sent to oe-dev mailing list Dec 18 02:42:40 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r9ecf040d... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) Dec 18 02:42:40 task-base: Introduce "vfat" feature to get VFAT support. Dec 18 02:42:40 * A COMBINED_FEATURE, machine and distro both must have it set for support Dec 18 02:42:40 to appear in images. Dec 18 02:42:40 * For now, deploy just kernel modules. Necessity of dosfstools requires Dec 18 02:42:42 more thought (and unlikely - vfat cannot be rootfs, so there's nothing to Dec 18 02:42:44 test/recover as emergency measure, and users can install the tools during Dec 18 02:42:47 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r4bf2d682... 10/ (33 files in 3 dirs): Dec 18 02:42:50 PDA-like machines with card slots: Enable "vfat" feature. Dec 18 02:42:52 * FAT-formatted cards are commodity, it's expectable them to be supported OOB. Dec 18 02:42:54 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * red1b1f05... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-base.bb): task-base: Bump PR to propogate machines' vfat feature. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 18 02:59:56 2007