**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 02:59:57 2007 Dec 24 07:34:48 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r62ae8d51... 10/ (15 files in 6 dirs): apex: Added apex-1.5.13, including variations support Dec 24 07:34:56 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r18e91f06... 10/ (1 packages/slugos-init/slugos-init_4.8.bb): slugos-init: Removed reflash script Dec 24 07:35:04 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rb5c1b606... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/slugos.inc): slugos.inc: SlugOS 4.8 release candidate Dec 24 07:57:27 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rc4691d13... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): apex: Fixed defcofigs for little endian case Dec 24 08:49:10 good morning Dec 24 08:51:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb27a32bf... 10/ (1 packages/images/minimal-gpe-image.bb): minimal-gpe-image: add gpe-terminal Dec 24 08:51:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra49967f3... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): angstrom build-*: sync with autobuilder Dec 24 09:56:05 * * OE Bug 3534 has been created by  Dec 24 09:56:07 * * navit-0.0.2-r0-do_compile Dec 24 09:56:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3534 Dec 24 10:35:31 morning Dec 24 10:37:23 hi hrw Dec 24 10:37:58 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r7b374568... 10/ (1 packages/navit/navit_0.0.2.bb): Dec 24 10:37:58 navit-0.0.2: make buidable Dec 24 10:37:58 * remove obsolete patch (accepted upstream) Dec 24 10:37:58 * --disable-samplemap to prevent compile bailing out because of using cross complied binary Dec 24 10:37:58 * fix QA issues Dec 24 10:40:04 * * OE Bug 3534 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by xjqian(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 10:40:06 * *  navit-0.0.2-r0-do_compile Dec 24 10:40:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3534 Dec 24 10:44:04 hrw: would o-hand accept patches in zaurusd, like the default alsa sound state files Dec 24 10:44:57 hrw: i think it's better maintained in o-hand svn instead in oe Dec 24 10:47:12 I will discuss it with Richard after xmas Dec 24 10:48:29 personally I think that alsa states should reside in /etc/alsa/ and in separate package Dec 24 10:48:32 not in zaurusd Dec 24 10:49:33 I agree. thanks Dec 24 10:50:31 alsa states will eventually die, but not for 6 months at least Dec 24 10:59:50 morning Dec 24 11:02:03 hi CoreDump Dec 24 11:42:24 RP: I believe I have a reproducable testcase for our bug. A certain package didn't get build after two tries. I believe it is "stuck" for good Dec 24 11:44:26 I will keep the build in this state until we can talk Dec 24 12:57:12 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r1585e84b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Dec 24 12:57:12 bluez-utils 3.23: Revamp brf6150 hispeed support. Dec 24 12:57:12 * Fixes #3520. Dec 24 13:08:13 which kernel does gumstix* mach type build? I can't find it in machine Dec 24 13:15:11 the OE sato "image" is seriously broken, is it maintained by someone? Dec 24 13:30:03 * * OE Bug 3535 has been created by zdravko.nikolov(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 13:30:06 * * gpe-wifi monitor applet in gpe fails to load Dec 24 13:30:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3535 Dec 24 13:49:04 * * OE Bug 2105 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by deller(AT)gmx.de Dec 24 13:49:06 * *  plash screen stuck to 95% with X11 image for the poodle (01/04/ 2007) Dec 24 13:49:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2105 Dec 24 13:58:28 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra0bced98... 10/ (1 packages/poppler/poppler0.6_cvs.bb): poppler: remove 0.6 cvs package, main is 0.6 now Dec 24 14:11:46 ~seen zecke Dec 24 14:11:48 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 14h 19m 49s ago, saying: 'haha qt_isEvilFsTypeName'. Dec 24 14:33:05 * * OE Bug 2562 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by deller(AT)gmx.de Dec 24 14:33:07 * *  X server crash on poodle Dec 24 14:33:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2562 Dec 24 14:39:14 re Dec 24 14:51:28 steliosk, gm Dec 24 15:00:02 morning Dec 24 15:45:56 have a nice x-mas Dec 24 15:52:01 you too! Dec 24 16:00:05 * * OE Bug 2468 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Dec 24 16:00:07 * *  python-pyqt4 fails do_compile Dec 24 16:00:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2468 Dec 24 17:08:51 Hi I am getting this mtn: error: sqlite error: database is locked Dec 24 17:09:03 anyone seeing this too Dec 24 17:12:06 Not me. Dec 24 17:12:27 I am seeing bitbake kismet failing because strip does not recognize the format of kismet-client though. Dec 24 17:13:21 heh ok my fault. There was a mtn up hung on my machine for three days Dec 24 17:15:26 Hhahah. Dec 24 17:15:35 That was hillarious :) Dec 24 18:05:12 gm Dec 24 18:05:14 ~seen koen Dec 24 18:05:16 koen was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 11d 7h 58m 53s ago, saying: 'I forgot to commit that portion yesterday'. Dec 24 18:05:54 hey likewise Dec 24 18:06:01 hey Sergey Dec 24 18:07:39 Merry xmas everyone. Dec 24 18:07:58 schme`, thanks Dec 24 18:08:23 schme`: thanks, you too! Dec 24 18:10:49 everybody building xmas-image? Dec 24 18:10:58 Now where is that clisp recipe I put on my xmas list? ;) Dec 24 18:11:18 baking kismet here. Dec 24 18:16:17 Merry Christmas to the rest of you :) Dec 24 18:28:05 The FOSEDM beer event has moved Dec 24 18:51:02 do we have a wroking git mirror? Dec 24 18:56:37 Crofton: not sure, there was an announcement on the ml a while back Dec 24 18:56:51 yeah Dec 24 18:57:13 looking at the ohloh site and wondering if we could link it to a mirrior Dec 24 19:00:12 Crofton: ohloh? Dec 24 19:00:31 http://www.ohloh.net/ Dec 24 19:45:05 * * OE Bug 3536 has been created by wtmarcus(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 19:45:07 * * Kismet not linked with libpcap Dec 24 19:45:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3536 Dec 24 20:39:57 !logs Dec 24 20:39:58 Channel logs for #oe are archived at: Dec 24 20:39:59 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/%23oe Dec 24 20:40:00 Live-logs are available at Dec 24 20:40:01 http://hentges.net/tmp/logs/irc/livelogs/%23oe.livelog Dec 24 20:40:02 See ?? help-logs for usage instructions Dec 24 21:28:04 * * OE Bug 3537 has been created by wtmarcus(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 21:28:06 * * libgpg-error-1.4 function do_compile failed Dec 24 21:28:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3537 Dec 24 21:43:04 * * OE Bug 3538 has been created by wtmarcus(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 21:43:06 * * libgpg-error-1.4 fails to compile Dec 24 21:43:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3538 Dec 24 22:06:28 zecke: good evening Dec 24 22:07:21 hey! Dec 24 22:11:50 hey zecke Dec 24 22:13:05 * * OE Bug 3538 has been RESOLVED (INVALID) by wtmarcus(AT)gmail.com Dec 24 22:13:07 * *  libgpg-error-1.4 fails to compile Dec 24 22:13:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3538 Dec 24 22:14:17 We need to start the FOSDEM2008 page Dec 24 22:14:55 Crofton: Can you create one? Dec 24 22:15:15 not from the events page :( Dec 24 22:15:36 I can't login to the wiki Dec 24 22:15:50 without a login you can't create a page, or edit the events page Dec 24 22:17:10 Crofton: indeed, might need a post to the ml Dec 24 22:17:15 yeah Dec 24 22:17:49 what bitbake are you guys using? Dec 24 22:17:56 I'll wait until after the holiday, otherwise people will skim it when they triage their email Dec 24 22:18:02 I'm running into lockfile() problems late in my x11-image build Dec 24 22:20:18 I jsut update oe + bb Dec 24 22:20:25 I'll fire off a build Dec 24 22:22:17 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r7ad7b453... 10/ (1 packages/bluez/bluez-utils_3.23.bb): bluez-utils 3.23: Fix typo in PR. Dec 24 22:22:19 Crofton: what happens is that my install/ directories seem to dissappear from underneath me. (This is where the lock files go). Something is cleaning up the install dirs.... Dec 24 22:22:26 hmmm Dec 24 22:23:05 I am running console-image for omap5912osk Dec 24 22:25:24 We'll see how things turn out Dec 24 22:28:23 Ah, this might be bogus... let me check. Dec 24 22:29:12 shouldn't you be putting out milk and cookies for santa claus Dec 24 22:29:50 we had "sinterklaas" already which is a more popular fella over here. Dec 24 22:30:18 snow has melted anyway, no way rudolph can park his sledge toy here. Dec 24 22:30:52 ah Dec 24 22:30:55 :-) Dec 24 22:31:13 hrw's blog suggested today was chriistmas for him Dec 24 22:32:23 interesting Dec 24 22:33:01 Crofton: yes, it is, but we don't know christmas day as you do (at least not in The Netherlands). People visit families, yes, and dine, yes, but presents under the tree is something we do with Sinterklaas, where his helpers come through the chimney to put presents in your shoes while you sleep. Dec 24 22:33:32 this dec 5? Dec 24 22:33:56 Yup. However, Santa Claus and Christmas has become more popular over the years. So it depends on who you ask. Some people celebrate both, some only one event, etc. Dec 24 22:34:25 in America presents come from Wlamart Dec 24 22:34:28 Strange really, how globalisation(*) affects all this :-) *popular tv series Dec 24 22:34:28 Walmart Dec 24 22:34:34 yeah Dec 24 22:34:40 I was thinking the same Dec 24 22:35:33 There is much difference and folklore across Europe. I know Christmas is celebrated in many different ways here. Dec 24 22:35:55 yeah Dec 24 22:36:12 ok, rm -rf tmp Dec 24 22:36:16 heh Dec 24 22:36:38 it is interesting learning about things people do differently Dec 24 22:37:24 globalisatoin is good in that it is expanding the pool of people I can work with Dec 24 22:37:47 bad in the sense that people may lose what makes them unique Dec 24 22:41:56 Crofton: I plan on having a really quiet first xmas day this year, mostly reading books and keeping my machine building. 2nd day will be with friends having diner and playing some games. Dec 24 22:42:16 really need to get the stress out of my body Dec 24 22:43:33 we are at my fathers placce now, tomorrow we go see my sister Dec 24 22:43:38 then start driving home Dec 24 22:43:51 since this is America, there is a lot of driving involved Dec 24 22:44:43 What is FOSDEM? Dec 24 22:45:03 www.fosdem.org Dec 24 22:45:16 in Brussels, late Feb Dec 24 22:45:47 * schme looksies. Dec 24 22:50:09 Oh nice. Dec 24 22:50:20 And merry xmas to you :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 22:50:23 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 22:52:14 2007 Dec 24 22:52:37 we'll probably stop in a motel tomorrow night Dec 24 22:52:48 my wife will just show up at work a little late ... Dec 24 22:52:52 Crofton: I wonder where we will be situated fosdem-wise - I hope the embedded room will have soom left-over space. Dec 24 22:53:13 I think space will still be at a premium Dec 24 22:53:18 the beer event has moved Dec 24 22:53:30 Crofton: yes, too crowded, wasn't it? Dec 24 22:53:38 yeah Dec 24 22:53:51 still, part of the FOSDEM atmosphere Dec 24 22:54:02 Hope they didn't up the hotel prices due to increasing #visitors Dec 24 22:54:09 heh Dec 24 22:54:17 I think they were ok when I checked Dec 24 22:54:23 I need to make a reservation soon Dec 24 22:54:32 for me rates are up to due worthless dollar Dec 24 22:56:02 Btw. I have a silly question here. I'm working on some recipies for some stuffs.. is this a good place to ask for help or is this channel strictly for packages in OE ? Dec 24 22:58:15 OE recipes? Dec 24 22:58:22 Yes. Dec 24 22:58:53 I installed OE a day or three ago to build some stuffs for my Z. Dec 24 22:58:55 schme: this channel is on topic, we discuss development of the tools, framework and the metadata (recipes) Dec 24 22:59:56 Ya.. Of course. I am writing a recipe using OE but it's not in the official stuff ;) Dec 24 23:00:11 this is a fine place to talk about such things Dec 24 23:00:18 Excellent! Dec 24 23:00:34 And I must say OE is amazing. Though a bit of a learning curve :) Dec 24 23:00:43 :) Dec 24 23:00:44 thnaks Dec 24 23:01:10 I'll get back to you with my lil' problem as soon as the current baking is done. Dec 24 23:01:15 ok Dec 24 23:01:19 "no space left on device" it said >< Dec 24 23:01:25 I'll be in and out Dec 24 23:01:34 hard drives are cheap .... Dec 24 23:01:47 I thought 40gb in a laptop was more than enough 'til today :D Dec 24 23:01:50 Yeah. I know. Dec 24 23:02:15 hmm I have like 53G Dec 24 23:02:28 what are you building? Dec 24 23:02:58 OpenEmbedded: First A Steep Learning Curve, Then A Smooth Ride (TM) Dec 24 23:03:05 right now.. gtk. The main goal right now is to try out my gnubg (gnu backgammon) recipe. It sorta depends on a bunchastuffs. Dec 24 23:03:12 in small print: bumps along the way Dec 24 23:03:15 But it used autotool so all should be well. Dec 24 23:03:39 clisp-2.43 did however not use autotools and ./configure got stuck in an infinite loop when I tried baking it. Dec 24 23:05:06 I'm not sure if clisp's configure script is broken or I'm not feeding it the right options. :) Dec 24 23:05:22 schme: try bitbake -D -v clisp first to see if that helps give more output Dec 24 23:05:43 And also in sweden we celebrate xmas on the 24th. Putting presents under a tree and pretending to like our relatives. Dec 24 23:05:53 likewise: pfft! I was doing -DDD -vv :) Dec 24 23:06:44 likewise: I am leaning towards me feeding configure something wrong or it being borked. I tried ./configure w/o OE and handing it my arm includes and libraries, etc. same problem. Dec 24 23:07:15 Also I was wondering about gnu arch fetching.. is there some way for this? Dec 24 23:08:06 schme: another debug approach is to first clean it, then build up to the "patch" task (-c patch) Dec 24 23:08:23 schme: then go into the work/build dir of the package, and run ../temp/run.do_configure Dec 24 23:08:51 schme: arch, not sure... not seen it in OE yet Dec 24 23:08:58 # <5>Linux version 2.6.12-hh2 (univac@tokyo) (gcc version 3.4.6 (Gentoo 3.4.6-r2 p1.5, ssp-3.4.6-1.0, pie-8.7.10)) 7 Dec 24 23:09:01 # CPU: StrongARM-1110 [6901b119] revision 9 (ARMv4) Dec 24 23:09:04 # Machine: HP iPAQ H3800 Dec 24 23:09:07 ;d Dec 24 23:10:51 likewise: Thanks! Dec 24 23:11:36 schme: welcome. Dec 24 23:23:29 hi dcordes Dec 24 23:24:13 hi likewise Dec 24 23:40:34 It seems the software I'm compiling is looking for a Python.h .. Is there a package that supplies that? Dec 24 23:46:33 schme, org.openembedded.dev/packages/python are you compilling natively (on device) ? Dec 24 23:48:28 No, I'm cross compiling on i686 for my Z. I put a DEPENDS += "python" in the recipe but there seems to be no Python.h in staging. Dec 24 23:48:49 Oh wait there is. Dec 24 23:49:10 weird that it doesn't find it. :S Dec 24 23:54:26 Linux h3800 2.6.12-hh2 #4 Tue Dec 25 00:56:16 CET 2007 armv4l unknown Dec 24 23:54:27 ;d Dec 25 00:01:44 This program I'm compiling links with libxml2 and gives me undefined reference to `xmlInitializeCatalog'. Also objdump on libxml.a and .so seem to confirm that indeed there is no xmlInitializeCatalog. Why is it lacking? Dec 25 00:04:27 ach.. --without-catalog :S Dec 25 00:07:50 I need to build a libxml --with-catalog. What is the best way to go around this. Do I create a new recipe in packages/libxml ? Dec 25 00:16:18 So, I'm downloading I Am Legend. Dec 25 00:16:56 I hope it isn't awful. I hope Will Smith does not mistake himself for an actor. Dec 25 00:18:00 bobf: downloading is legal in .se (it is in .nl, not sharing though)? Dec 25 00:18:23 No idea. Dec 25 00:18:27 Never been. Dec 25 00:19:09 I'm pretty sure it's illegal here though. I won't tell anyone if you won't. Dec 25 00:19:30 Hahaha. sverige.freeshell.org Dec 25 00:19:45 Hi, schme, what are you doing in my channel? Dec 25 00:42:05 likewise: And yes, downloading is legal in sweden. Sharing is not. Dec 25 00:44:07 oh all compiled. Dec 25 00:44:23 bobf: One of these days I'll show you my package. Dec 25 00:44:42 schme: One of these days I'll bang your girlfriend. Dec 25 00:44:46 And we can call it even. Dec 25 00:53:04 I won't tell anyone :-) Dec 25 00:57:34 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rf3260552... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): navit: add 0.0.3, bump cvs, unify. Dec 25 01:01:31 anybody know a package in OE that can help me to test mic on device? Dec 25 01:01:45 What's OE? Dec 25 01:01:46 xjqian: cat? Dec 25 01:02:15 bobf: would you mind stopping to troll and leaving this channel? Dec 25 01:02:45 :-( Dec 25 01:03:25 zecke: can you elborate how to test mic with cat Dec 25 01:04:07 xjqian: your microphone should have a device, cat /dev/snd/foo > foo Dec 25 01:04:23 xjqian: and then be brave and just play it back, or use sox to convert it to something :) Dec 25 01:04:36 xjqian: but the first test will be if there is any data coming out of the microphone Dec 25 01:04:38 philippe: ping :) Dec 25 01:05:38 zecke: does it mean if the alsa sound state file is wrong, there won't be any data coming out of the microphone? Dec 25 01:06:16 xjqian: could be, XorA, lrg and RP are better candidates to give more accurate answers Dec 25 01:06:37 zecke: thanks. will try Dec 25 01:44:13 I just wrote a lil recipe that depends on libxml2. I had to compile a new version of libxml2 (--with-catalog unlike the normal --without-catalog in OE) and I was wondering where the decent place to put this new libxml2 recipe I made is.. Do I put it in packages/libxml2 and if so what name do I use for it? Dec 25 01:46:23 Or maybe just increase PR ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 25 02:59:56 2007