**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:57 2008 Jan 07 07:22:49 hi, if i have a simple project with a makefile only what 'inherit' do i need to use? Jan 07 07:26:16 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r3cbcb0f9... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Jan 07 07:26:16 qpegps: RRECOMMENDS gpsd, instead of RDEPENDS; bump PR Jan 07 07:26:16 * qpegps works as a viable map viewer without gpsd Jan 07 07:28:27 xjqian: I thought it wouldn't compile without gps.h... ? Jan 07 07:29:05 bluelightning: it still DEPENDS gpsd Jan 07 07:29:51 bluelighting: just don't pull gpsd with it when people want to use it just as a map viewer Jan 07 08:17:49 anyone seen this: "NameError: global name 'mising' is not defined Jan 07 08:17:49 " ? Jan 07 08:21:10 aha - error in sanity.bbclass Jan 07 08:29:54 * XorA|gone wonders why windows can sync PIM data but linux just does not have that capability Jan 07 08:33:01 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * ra9234837... 10/ (1 classes/sanity.bbclass): sanity.bbclass: Fix typo - everyone else must have GNU fortran already installed Jan 07 08:34:07 * XorA sighs and gives up all hope of using his adressbook on linux Jan 07 08:36:47 XorA: now you know why I run Linux as a virtual machine on top of windows ... Jan 07 08:37:09 rwhitby: :-D Jan 07 08:37:35 I suppose I could just get windows mobile to boot in qemu :-) Jan 07 08:41:22 XorA: On a Neo.. ;) Jan 07 08:55:50 morning Jan 07 08:56:36 hi Jan 07 09:03:04 morning all Jan 07 09:57:12 morning Jan 07 11:22:31 03coredump2 07org.oe.dev * r4d7d106b... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): flite: Fixe do_compile, courtesy of xjqian. Jan 07 12:02:55 xjqian: does qpegps work for you? For me it just does a segfault (akita, built from stable branch) Jan 07 12:10:30 otavio: hey, I found the source of the issue. I will need to fix it though :} Jan 07 12:10:37 otavio: I will do the fix after work Jan 07 12:10:53 mickeyl: hey, I had a look at pyqt.pro and there is one thing Jan 07 12:11:06 CoreDump: instead of "courtesy of XYZ" use --author XYZ when commiting Jan 07 12:11:07 mickeyl: echo -e is a GNU bashism and not supported by dash :) Jan 07 12:11:16 mickeyl: let us replace all traces of echo -e with printf Jan 07 12:12:10 hrw: I'm trying to get used to do that yes. But I thought it to be overkill for a one-liner =) Jan 07 12:13:44 CoreDump: but it looks nicer in changelogs ;) Jan 07 12:14:00 =) Jan 07 12:17:17 bonjour Jan 07 12:21:02 http://blog.haerwu.biz/ Jan 07 12:21:16 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2008/01/07/how-to-replace-zaurus-pda/ I meant Jan 07 12:22:56 zecke: cool! thanks a lot Jan 07 12:23:12 zecke: i'll wait your OK before going to rebase against it Jan 07 12:37:39 bitbake nano Jan 07 12:37:39 ERROR: Unable to open conf/bitbake.conf Jan 07 12:38:39 wrong BBPATH Jan 07 12:46:29 ok let me chk Jan 07 12:50:06 Ohhhk Jan 07 12:50:24 I acidently forgot to edit the path properly Jan 07 12:51:32 Thanx hrw Jan 07 13:13:31 Bernardo: qpegps in stable branch don't even build, without bluelightening's patch Jan 07 13:14:08 Hi. I compile linux kernel for my dell x50v, but have trouble with loading. I have another working kernel, but want to compile new from src. My kernel is dead, absolutely no reaction after loading. What now? How check? Jan 07 13:15:00 Bernardo: I will test qpegps with OPIE on tosa, soon. But i don't know if it segfaults on run time now Jan 07 13:42:52 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:42:52 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:42:52 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:44:44 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:44:44 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:44:44 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:45:47 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:45:47 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:45:47 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:46:48 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:46:48 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:46:48 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:47:52 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:47:52 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:47:52 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:48:42 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:48:42 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:48:42 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:49:15 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:49:15 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:49:15 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:50:03 oh my! Jan 07 13:50:10 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:50:10 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:50:10 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:51:05 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:51:05 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:51:05 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:52:01 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:52:01 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:52:01 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:52:40 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:52:40 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:52:40 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:52:50 eeks Jan 07 13:53:17 CIA's a bunch of gash, isn't it? Jan 07 13:53:24 We have similar issues with it. Jan 07 13:53:38 03Laibsch 07org.oe.documentation * r9affab74... 10/ (1 usermanual/usermanual.xml): Jan 07 13:53:38 usermanual.xml: sample export command was broken in docu. Jan 07 13:53:38 Applying fix from bug 2209. Thanks for spotting it. Jan 07 13:53:46 Sorry for the CIA junk. Looks like the bot and auto-merger did not like my 9affab74bc9cb10ec0b750752491c72491140c92. Should be fixed soon. Jan 07 13:53:55 I am working on it Jan 07 13:54:00 pushing atm Jan 07 13:56:08 Crofton: ping! Jan 07 13:57:23 :-D Jan 07 13:57:23 gm Jan 07 13:57:43 Good morning! Jan 07 13:58:02 I gave angstrom stable a try late last night Jan 07 13:58:11 ah, how did that go? Jan 07 13:58:31 NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-libc-for-gcc (external-toolchain, uclibc); Jan 07 13:58:48 The external-toolchain stuff is new Jan 07 13:59:01 What do I need to know to deal with tis? Jan 07 13:59:05 heh Jan 07 13:59:07 not sure Jan 07 13:59:45 Eventually the build fails with : The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/angstrom/arm! Jan 07 13:59:53 interesting Jan 07 14:00:03 * Crofton needs to learn about this though Jan 07 14:00:07 but not this week Jan 07 14:00:16 Am I missing some new requirement in local.conf perhaps? Jan 07 14:00:21 sakoman: you need to set the preferred provider Jan 07 14:00:40 otherwise it will choose external-toolchain Jan 07 14:00:49 Where is the standard place to do this? Jan 07 14:01:05 RP: (I wish there was a way for it to always choose other than external toolchain if there is no preferred provider defined) Jan 07 14:01:23 sakoman: in the distro.conf Jan 07 14:02:26 Hmm . . . shouldn't it be in angstrom-stable out of the box then? Jan 07 14:02:27 where is distro.conf? Jan 07 14:04:12 sakoman: I did not read the backlog far enough, but I also had a problem regarding the external toolchain Jan 07 14:04:37 sakoman: however I had to prepare a toolchain quickly for some project, so I solved the problem by hacking - simply removed the external-toolchain.bb file Jan 07 14:04:52 wanted to go back later and figure out who pulls in the dependency but had no time yet Jan 07 14:06:02 this is only with Angstrom stable? Jan 07 14:06:36 my distro is based on ansgstrom 2007.1 which was supposed to end up in stable Jan 07 14:06:54 it was about a month ago when I messed with toolchains Jan 07 14:08:27 * Crofton wonders if sakoman has his on distro.conf based off Angstrom's ... Jan 07 14:08:50 Crofton: No Jan 07 14:09:27 Only custom machine conf Jan 07 14:09:32 yeah Jan 07 14:09:35 that is what I thought Jan 07 14:09:45 I use angstrom unchanged Jan 07 14:10:01 Trying to minimize overrides Jan 07 14:10:04 did the distro name change slightly in stable? Jan 07 14:10:14 * Crofton does not have a copy of the stbale branch handy Jan 07 14:10:21 Ah, Iwill check Jan 07 14:11:15 No still appears to be angstrom-2007.1.conf Jan 07 14:12:06 Need to step away. Be back shortly Jan 07 14:14:30 sakoman, also check http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jan 07 14:14:40 maybe that will help Jan 07 14:16:04 how hard is it to run an ARM image in qemu ? Jan 07 14:16:16 does it work the same than for poky? Jan 07 14:19:14 what 'inherit' do i need for a project with a makefile only? Jan 07 14:19:59 likely none Jan 07 14:20:02 emdete: none Jan 07 14:20:41 i just leave out any such line? Jan 07 14:21:43 sakoman, are you on angstrom-devel list? I think there is a solution there? Jan 07 14:22:44 just in case I forwarded it to you Jan 07 14:23:10 hrw, Crofton|work i still get the error "ERROR: No providers of build target build (for [])" Jan 07 14:23:40 show recipe Jan 07 14:23:53 ~pastebin Jan 07 14:23:54 [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste Jan 07 14:25:11 xjqian|gone: Jan 07 14:25:14 http://rafb.net/p/r4hRJO77.html Jan 07 14:25:24 its more or less a copy of one from mickeyl Jan 07 14:26:10 paste2.org if you want nifty colours Jan 07 14:26:14 don't you need to override do_compile etc if you do not inherit from autotools? Jan 07 14:26:23 xjqian|gone: I built qpegps with bluelightning's patch, and it now segfaults at runtime. I even tried 0.9.3.1 (renaming a couple of files that have the wrong case so that it builds), and it also segfaults Jan 07 14:26:54 * Crofton is not sure what the default implementation of do_compile and friends contain Jan 07 14:27:12 do_compile() { oe_runmake } can be needed Jan 07 14:27:43 mom, give me a second Jan 07 14:27:51 emdete: here is such a bb file: http://paste2.org/p/11527 Jan 07 14:36:30 nud: i have a svn SRC_URI, bb does not like it... hm Jan 07 14:37:22 morning Jan 07 14:37:42 emdete: does your ssh repo need a password ? Jan 07 14:38:02 no. does work fine for another similar project with autoconf Jan 07 14:46:22 hi everybody Jan 07 14:52:15 hi thesing Jan 07 15:03:17 hrw: 4 make processes realy kill this machine Jan 07 15:03:59 hrw: I updated all patches but it takes 36 hours to bitbake console image. Jan 07 15:12:19 Crofton: Thanks for the email copy of the angstrom list message. Guess I better subscribe Jan 07 15:12:46 does that solve the problem? Jan 07 15:14:14 guys, is anyone familiar with this glibc patch? http://sources.redhat.com/ml/libc-alpha/2006-03/msg00104.html Jan 07 15:15:34 Crofton: hmm . . . no Jan 07 15:15:37 same error Jan 07 15:16:16 bother, try emailing koen Jan 07 15:17:15 I will Jan 07 15:17:39 will try clean build first though Jan 07 15:18:31 good idea ,,,, Jan 07 15:18:57 next week I will try some stable builds Jan 07 15:19:07 Never have figured out when I *have* to start fresh Jan 07 15:19:21 need to make a presentation for Thursday, need do some promtoional work Jan 07 15:19:36 well toolchain stuff tends to benefit from it Jan 07 15:19:40 job search related? Jan 07 15:20:23 sakoman: One of the big problems with OE is that not enough of the core developers start fresh often enough -- leaving the discovery of broken dependencies to the newbies :( Jan 07 15:21:09 sakoman: As a rule, I start fresh once per week -- but I know that the autobuilders (which are taken as gospel when it comes to "does it work") do not start fresh, hardly ever. :( Jan 07 15:21:10 mwester, I try to wipe tmp frequently Jan 07 15:21:49 epdf is fucked up about 2 or 3 months Jan 07 15:22:10 mwester: my autobuilder for gumstix starts fresh twice daily and builds uclibc and glibc versions of 5 images Jan 07 15:22:48 mwester, there is a balance between productive and starting fresh, which is why I try to do as many clean builds as possible Jan 07 15:23:24 It's worth having a dedicated machine to find issues quickly Jan 07 15:24:20 Crofton: fresh build seems to have the same issue Jan 07 15:25:44 bother Jan 07 15:25:45 * mwester paid a bit extra when replacing his file server to ensure it had CPU and memory to serve as a build machine for OE. Jan 07 15:26:54 * Crofton|work lusts for http://radio.tentec.com/Amateur/vna Jan 07 15:27:39 Cool. Jan 07 15:27:54 yeah, I need a linux version of the SW though .. Jan 07 15:28:00 hi mwester Jan 07 15:28:36 I'm willing to live with Windows for that! But it sure would be nice if it could cover the 70cm band. Jan 07 15:28:41 yeah Jan 07 15:28:52 still, huge bang for buck Jan 07 15:29:47 Yep. And I have to believe that they're working on something with a little higher bandwidth -- that price-point is so compelling. Jan 07 15:30:22 * mwester bets one of the Chicago clubs will have one of those shortly. Jan 07 15:32:05 hi SyNko Jan 07 15:36:38 i ve OE - noobie question.. are you rEaDy? Jan 07 15:37:18 if you use normal casing on your letters, we'll at least listen Jan 07 15:39:28 k, sorry bout.. wtf is source command? used on anstrom tutorial for setting the prebuild vars Jan 07 15:39:55 'source'. Jan 07 15:40:02 (or .) Jan 07 15:40:18 yes Jan 07 15:40:47 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jan 07 15:40:53 source foo.bar from command line Jan 07 15:41:01 yes Jan 07 15:41:12 or ./foo.bar if you are using a script Jan 07 15:41:13 i discover it for the first time Jan 07 15:41:27 or ./foo.bar if you are using *within* a script Jan 07 15:41:42 ant|work: k , as i imagine Jan 07 15:41:50 ant|work: or sh :) Jan 07 15:42:31 no Jan 07 15:42:36 sh is a shell Jan 07 15:43:07 you can have yourscript.sh and calling it with "sh yourscript.sh" Jan 07 15:43:10 ant|work: but why i still not compile with the 'bitbake base-image' ? of that page Jan 07 15:43:22 read carefully Jan 07 15:43:59 ant|work: hey, im a newbie of OE not of life-linux Jan 07 15:44:10 :-) Jan 07 15:44:30 why do i get parsing errors although i updated it before ?? Jan 07 15:44:45 ant|work: ive check and recheckkken more times that fkn page before start change that code Jan 07 15:45:20 ant|work: but i cant get no bitbake working on that command Jan 07 15:45:38 what's your path? stuff? Jan 07 15:46:07 if i digit "bitbake base-image" it returns "ERROR: no files to build. Jan 07 15:46:07 (12:40:47) SyNko: NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 0 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked. Jan 07 15:46:07 (12:40:47) SyNko: ERROR: No providers of build target base-image (for []) Jan 07 15:46:07 (12:40:47) SyNko: " Jan 07 15:46:29 is your local.conf ok? Jan 07 15:46:54 ant|work: path seems ok, would you like to view the stamp of my two conf files? Jan 07 15:46:59 bye Jan 07 15:47:02 ant|work: k Jan 07 15:47:43 did you edit your local.conf? Jan 07 15:48:17 BBFILES := "${@bb.fatal('Edit your conf/local.conf: BBFILES')}" Jan 07 15:48:18 ant|work: hey man, you arent in my brain, but trust me im not dumb/drunked/stoned/crazy :) Jan 07 15:48:44 these are the most common errors Jan 07 15:48:57 this in not a support channel btw Jan 07 15:49:07 we are trying to help you Jan 07 15:49:11 ant|work: i read this files like a runner make two meters, i know you must follow a way to help me cause you dont know me Jan 07 15:49:38 ant|work: Im an I.T. technician , i know problem solving Jan 07 15:50:34 ant|work: but jump on the uncommon probs or please view my two files or go in ssh to me Jan 07 15:50:45 pastebin, it pls Jan 07 15:51:32 ant|work: pastebin is the command on the bb? or means "paste here"? Jan 07 15:51:43 www.pastebin.com .org, ... Jan 07 15:51:50 ant|work: k Jan 07 15:54:20 here an old post with my old scripts http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3367 Jan 07 15:54:24 ant|work: http://pastebin.com/d6639a3be Jan 07 15:54:39 but you reaaly should use the autobuilder Jan 07 15:54:59 when you'll discover it Jan 07 15:55:15 ant|work: mmmhhhh.. Jan 07 15:55:16 * ant is providing the link Jan 07 15:56:35 when I get a binary which is "linked, for GNU/Linux 2.4.0" and I want "GNU/Linux 2.3.99" - what is responsible for this, is it glibc version? Jan 07 16:00:31 Is that the output of file? Surely it's the executable format, rather than the linkage? Jan 07 16:00:46 "GNU/Linux 2.4.0" is a bit of a nonsense in any case, no? Jan 07 16:00:52 I used the "file" command on the binary output file Jan 07 16:00:54 on an executable Jan 07 16:00:58 Given there's no single OS called "GNU/Linux" and thus no single version numbering scheme. Jan 07 16:01:02 well appears strange to me too Jan 07 16:01:38 ant|work: automake? Jan 07 16:02:08 http://pastebin.mozilla.org/297964 Jan 07 16:02:13 the first entry is what runs on that system Jan 07 16:02:23 the lower entry is what I compiled, it produces an illegal instruction Jan 07 16:02:29 the only idfference that see is this weird version Jan 07 16:02:38 which is higher in my case.. so who knows Jan 07 16:06:54 ...so.. any ideas? Jan 07 16:07:29 ant|work: i follow the angstrom tutorial for build , just that Jan 07 16:08:15 btw I was using the wrt54.conf Jan 07 16:08:37 Jin^eLD: What have you got, and what do you want? Additionally, why do you want that? Jan 07 16:08:44 :) Jan 07 16:08:55 rjek: there is some user who has a NAS box, seems to be broadcom based Jan 07 16:09:00 ie, why do you think you need a binary which claims to be for "GNU/Linux 2.3.99" ? Jan 07 16:09:10 I asked around and it seems that the wrt54.conf is matching the arch of that box Jan 07 16:09:19 the box has some firmware preinstalled on it Jan 07 16:09:31 the user asked me for if he could use my app (upnp server) on that box Jan 07 16:09:50 I did stuff like that before with other boxes and it worked fine - just crosscompiled my app for them and tried to match the glibc version Jan 07 16:10:01 and the stuff did run Jan 07 16:10:06 but for this guy - it did not work out Jan 07 16:10:09 he gets an illegal instruction Jan 07 16:10:33 my thought was that I maybe have used a higher glibc version when compiling than the one that he has on his system Jan 07 16:10:40 not sure if this can cause such an error though Jan 07 16:10:53 sorry, what is autobuilder? Jan 07 16:11:06 so basically I want to compile my app so it runs on a preinstalled firmware on that broadcom based box Jan 07 16:12:58 ...sorry..I'm back Jan 07 16:13:13 ant|work: k, tnx you Jan 07 16:13:24 ant|work: wtf is autobuilder? Jan 07 16:13:24 ...I didn't see obvious errors but I would restart from http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/conf/local.conf.sample Jan 07 16:14:13 ant|work: k Jan 07 16:15:03 is a script used to build all the images Jan 07 16:15:24 look in /contrib Jan 07 16:16:24 Jin^eLD: Illegal instruction? I suspect the binaries are build for different CPUs. Jan 07 16:16:34 ant|work: k Jan 07 16:16:48 ahh, I have CCACHE="" Jan 07 16:16:59 So you need a tool chain that can produce binaries that are compatable with it. I have no experience of the device you're trying to target, however. Jan 07 16:18:04 well, I asked around on the channel and people were convinced that wrt54.conf should match Jan 07 16:18:07 http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=4701011 Jan 07 16:18:07 me too :: CCACHE = "/home/SyNko/slugga_comp/anstrom/cache" Jan 07 16:18:07 ant|work: Jan 07 16:18:14 there's a cat from /proc/cpuinfo Jan 07 16:18:31 basically - BCM3302 V0.6 Jan 07 16:18:38 CACHE <> CCACHE Jan 07 16:18:59 ant|work: k , im recheck this Jan 07 16:20:09 ant|work: nada change Jan 07 16:25:24 ant|work: bb still saying "No files to build" Jan 07 16:25:49 ant|work: but if i point on a .bb file it work Jan 07 16:26:46 SyNko: try commenting out `CACHE=/home/SyNko/slugga_comp/anstrom/cache` Jan 07 16:29:44 SyNko: and not exporting CACHE=/home/SyNko/slugga_comp/anstrom/cache` Jan 07 16:30:06 SyNko: just like here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom Jan 07 16:31:06 ant|work: ah! it is my add for bb , cause without that bb say " You must set CACHE .." Jan 07 16:33:04 SyNko: I only set CCACHE="" in my local.conf Jan 07 16:33:14 SyNko: and it just works... Jan 07 16:34:31 ant|work: ok you are tired to make help.. Jan 07 16:34:40 SyNko: atm I cannot help you...I'm in office... Jan 07 16:35:28 SyNko: see later at home... Jan 07 16:35:31 ant|work: Do you know how BB works without pointing that directly to a bb file? Jan 07 16:35:42 ant|work: k , tnx 1000 , s;yah Jan 07 18:31:03 hello all Jan 07 18:31:25 gm Jan 07 18:32:40 hi Jan 07 18:33:19 * zecke kicks the CIA-35 and waits for gitmo Jan 07 18:50:58 mickeyl, I bought a ticket to Brussels Jan 07 18:51:25 good Crofton|work Jan 07 18:51:30 news about hotel ? Jan 07 18:52:03 I think mickeyl was goign to check on a group rate, but not many people will commit to going ... Jan 07 18:52:56 FOSDEM? Jan 07 18:53:01 yeah Jan 07 18:53:03 * rjek is all booked and ready \o/ Jan 07 18:53:22 where are you staying? Jan 07 18:53:50 Hello Jan 07 18:55:05 Qemu was released with support for SH3/SH4, and I can now use it to build binary locales, I have enabled the options in local.conf, what do need to do now in order to build the binary locales? Jan 07 18:55:11 Rebuild glibc? Jan 07 18:55:24 B_Lizzard: sounds right Jan 07 18:55:38 OK, thanks a lot! :) Jan 07 18:57:08 Crofton|work: The Atlas Hotel. Jan 07 18:57:34 Crofton|work: Previous 3 years we stayed at the Jaque Brel hostel, but this time we want a comfortable bed and somewhere more central :) Jan 07 19:04:19 Crofton|work: what was that hotel we stayed last year? astrid? Jan 07 19:04:31 btw, http://www.atlas-hotel.be/atlas/presentation.html Jan 07 19:06:21 you guys should try priceline Jan 07 19:06:24 likewise, yes last year was astrid Jan 07 19:06:44 Last year I payed ~60 Euro for a four star hotel Jan 07 19:06:54 I believe it was the Marriott Jan 07 19:07:09 the MArriot is good usually ! Jan 07 19:07:19 good? Jan 07 19:07:39 It is very nice, chain hotel, you know what you get Jan 07 19:07:40 ! Jan 07 19:08:00 yes what i mean .. :) Jan 07 19:13:25 Laibsch: How long will priceline.com take to deny or make definite the request? Jan 07 19:15:22 likewise: right on the spot Jan 07 19:15:32 Laibsch: thanks Jan 07 19:15:34 They either accept your price or they deny it Jan 07 19:15:46 likewise: Make sure you don't overbid Jan 07 19:16:01 start with 50-60 € and increase slowly Jan 07 19:16:06 You still have time Jan 07 19:16:14 Laibsch: ok,good to know it's not a lengthy process. Yes exactly. Jan 07 19:16:26 All rooms are double and can be shared to lower the costs even further Jan 07 19:16:35 I notice clicking 4 stars offers lower pricing than 3-starts Jan 07 19:16:45 That sometimes happens Jan 07 19:16:54 4stars is usually best value Jan 07 19:17:14 The premium when there is one is usually low but there is a notable difference Jan 07 19:17:19 Crofton|work, Laibsch: and they (priceline) quote dollar prices. Jan 07 19:17:29 yes Jan 07 19:17:31 Laibsch: tnx for the tip Jan 07 19:17:38 de nada Jan 07 19:17:46 I never use anything else Jan 07 19:17:57 heh Jan 07 19:18:02 worthelss currency Jan 07 19:18:17 I like the Astrid for location Jan 07 19:18:27 And I would never have stayed at these places at the regular rate when it would be from my own pocket Jan 07 19:19:32 when we get some solid commitment, maybe we should see if we can get mulitple rooms from priceline Jan 07 19:20:07 Crofton|work: I'm all in to opt-in. But it will be hard to get commitment/response going, remember last year. Jan 07 19:20:15 yeah Jan 07 19:20:34 if we do priceline as individuals, we could end up all over Jan 07 19:20:41 which would be bad :) Jan 07 19:21:36 Crofton|work: Astrid is really expensive now, and breakfast is no longer included. Jan 07 19:21:40 yeah Jan 07 19:21:41 what package should I install on ubuntu for fortran compiler? Jan 07 19:21:44 gfortran? Jan 07 19:22:04 I would just book two to four rooms Jan 07 19:22:35 you cannot cancel, but with the low prices you get you'll be sure to sell off any surplus beds you might have Jan 07 19:22:40 Laibsch: yes (gfortran) Jan 07 19:22:47 thanks, zecke Jan 07 19:24:03 hmm priceline is showing 109 usd for Hilton Brussels City Jan 07 19:24:33 Crofton|work: only 10+ rooms for groups. Jan 07 19:24:56 Laibsch: cannot find the option to choose #rooms. Jan 07 19:25:44 likewise, not from here .... Jan 07 19:26:05 Crofton|work: you selected "Groups" in the right top corner? Jan 07 19:26:14 no Jan 07 19:26:45 ah Jan 07 19:26:54