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Feb 11 06:14:20 <sriram> i have brought up a minimal gpe image - when i change the orientation of matchbox, i am able to calibrate but the cursor gets struck to one corner of the screen
Feb 11 06:14:31 <sriram> and i am not able to use touch screen
Feb 11 06:15:05 <sriram> X and matchbox are not able to use the calibration data properly
Feb 11 08:44:46 <steliosk> good morning
Feb 11 09:22:51 <Genesis> hello
Feb 11 09:30:20 <sriram> hi
Feb 11 09:46:22 <hrw> morning
Feb 11 09:49:08 <dcordes> morning hrw 
Feb 11 09:50:14 <hrw> dcordes: want that leather case or not?
Feb 11 09:51:24 <dcordes> ah completely forgot about it :-)
Feb 11 09:51:32 <dcordes> yes I'd still like to have it
Feb 11 09:52:23 <hrw> then post a comment on that post
Feb 11 09:52:36 <hrw> this way I will have email to use
Feb 11 09:53:03 <dcordes> ok
Feb 11 09:56:48 <dcordes> hrw: ok done. Do you use OE for n810?
Feb 11 09:57:32 <hrw> I use OE to build some packages
Feb 11 09:58:12 <dcordes> I tried to build n770 image yesterday and failed on http://72.233.35.82/show_bug.cgi?id=3113
Feb 11 09:59:39 <hrw> no n770 but 770
Feb 11 10:00:33 <dcordes> ok. do you have an idea why it fails? mickey|zzZZzz told me something is wrong on the build host
Feb 11 10:01:48 <hrw> looks like it needs to be merged from Poky
Feb 11 10:06:14 <dcordes> hrw: I copied over the according metadata from my poky dir. let's see if it builds
Feb 11 10:08:30 <dcordes> hrw: also fails on do_compile
Feb 11 10:41:10 <dcordes> hrw: can you take a look at it? would be cool to build images for nokia tablets again
Feb 11 10:41:42 <hrw> I not warrant but will look
Feb 11 10:41:57 <hrw> dcordes: cases which I have do not take cxx00 but c7x0
Feb 11 10:42:34 <dcordes> ooh that's a downer :( I thought they were of same size
Feb 11 10:43:29 <hrw> cxx00 are thicker
Feb 11 11:24:54 <CoreDump> http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/ =D
Feb 11 11:38:49 <florian> hi all
Feb 11 12:55:11 <Jin|away> blackfin is now in OE, right? I think Koen added it...  isn't blackfin using the uclinux kernel?
Feb 11 13:03:59 <florian> Jin^eLD: If I remember correctly there is a port of regular linux to some. But i would expect uclinux to be the most common for these.
Feb 11 13:04:34 <Jin^eLD> florian: can I use OE to build uclinux stuff?
Feb 11 13:04:48 <Jin^eLD> and what is the difference - only the kernel, or also the glibc and compiler
Feb 11 13:06:34 <RP> Jin^eLD: different libc and compiler
Feb 11 13:06:37 <florian> Jin^eLD: I don't think so, but it would be a pretty cool thing to have. 
Feb 11 13:06:58 <Jin^eLD> their page does not provide much comprehensive info, difficult to get going
Feb 11 13:07:11 <Jin^eLD> do you guys think it would be possible at all to bring this into OE?
Feb 11 13:07:14 <dcordes__> hrw: did you find time to take a look at xomap compilation issue?
Feb 11 13:07:22 <RP> Jin^eLD: OE is more than cabable of doing it
Feb 11 13:07:34 <hrw> dcordes__: nope
Feb 11 13:07:45 <Jin^eLD> RP: ok... I think I will give it a try then
Feb 11 13:08:05 <florian> Jin^eLD: It should be not too complicated... OE is much more powerful than their build stuff.
Feb 11 13:09:08 <Jin^eLD> my personal problem with uclinux is, that each time I tried to read up on all the bits and pieces - I failed :) their page looks like its from 1990
Feb 11 13:09:13 <Jin^eLD> and the info is not comprehensive
Feb 11 13:09:16 <Jin^eLD> :)
Feb 11 13:12:04 <geekounet`> hi, how can i diagnosticate why my touchscreen doesn't work with X ? i can't find any logfile :/
Feb 11 13:13:18 <geekounet`> it used to work fine with an old angstrom distribution, but now, it doesn't, the /dev/input/touchscreen0 device is here and works, but X doesn't do anything
Feb 11 13:13:38 <hrw> geekounet`: install tslib-tests and check does it work at all
Feb 11 13:15:36 <geekounet`> hmm ok
Feb 11 13:18:05 <geekounet`> hm strange, tslib-tests was included in my DEBUG_APPS, but it's not on the image...
Feb 11 13:26:43 <lumag> evening!
Feb 11 13:27:36 <hrw> hi dmitry
Feb 11 13:29:04 <Jin^eLD> seems like uclinux for ARM is partially in the mainline 
Feb 11 13:38:16 <geekounet`> hrw, well, ts_test, ts_print, and on, are ok with my touchscreen, i've the good coordinates (but the upper left corner is at ~200x200, i don't know if it can cause problems)
Feb 11 13:38:42 <geekounet`> only xtscal doesn't work with it :/
Feb 11 13:38:47 <hrw> geekounet`: which ver of xserver? 1.3 or 1.4?
Feb 11 13:39:20 <geekounet`> hrw, 1.4
Feb 11 13:40:08 <hrw> revert to 1.3 - the one which works for sure
Feb 11 13:40:38 <geekounet`> ok, i'll try, thanks :)
Feb 11 13:50:29 <CIA-37> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4d12ac0d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): madwifi-ng: Fixed little-endian build
Feb 11 14:42:02 <sriram> i have a very small embedded system with 64MB RAM and 266MHZ processor and i want to run a small movie player, i have tried mplayer and gxine and they dont work properly as expected
Feb 11 14:42:27 <sriram> i either get audio or video and mplayers drop frames because of AV sync issues.
Feb 11 14:42:53 <sriram> could anyone advice me if they have tried any light weight movie player
Feb 11 14:45:06 <hrw> use smaller resolution/bitrate?
Feb 11 14:46:46 <chouimat|work> morning
Feb 11 14:47:37 <sriram> hmm, i have tried that i think
Feb 11 14:47:42 <NAbyss> sriram: It'd be worth checking out where the bottleneck is, as that'll lead you to the solution - is it the I/O to read the video in, to display the video at an acceptable frame rate, or the video decoding?
Feb 11 14:48:02 <NAbyss> if it's the I/O to read the stream in, use a lower bitrate/frame size
Feb 11 14:48:16 <NAbyss> if it's the display, enable hardware acceleration, or use a smaller resolution
Feb 11 14:48:30 <NAbyss> if it's the video decoding, use a less taxing codec.. say, MPEG-1
Feb 11 14:51:10 <sriram> i really dont know where the bottleneck is
Feb 11 14:51:31 <NAbyss> sriram: It'd be worth watching top while you're playing the video
Feb 11 14:51:50 <NAbyss> If the device spends a good deal of time in the wait state, it's likely I/O.
Feb 11 14:51:58 <NAbyss> If it spends a lot of CPU time in userspace, it'd be the codec
Feb 11 14:52:23 <sriram> i am able to play video, video plays fine, but the problem is video plays without audio
Feb 11 14:53:16 <sriram> i feel its because of AV sync, player is dropping video and audio frames, the audio frames are getting dropped at a faster rate then video
Feb 11 14:53:45 <NAbyss> sriram: Does the device experience high CPU load?
Feb 11 14:57:02 <sriram> when i run mplayer ; the cpu load on top shows me its about 90%
Feb 11 14:58:55 <sriram> whenever mplayer runs the cpuload is above 90%
Feb 11 15:01:03 <hrw> sriram: a/v sync is problem?
Feb 11 15:01:15 <hrw> sriram: share test file?
Feb 11 15:03:09 <sriram> okay
Feb 11 15:04:07 <sriram> hrw: how?
Feb 11 15:04:15 <hrw> put it on web?
Feb 11 15:05:11 <sriram> i dont have an ftp server, i can mail 
Feb 11 15:05:33 <sriram> its a simple flv file
Feb 11 15:06:00 <sriram> for that matter any flv file will do
Feb 11 15:06:13 <hrw> then try with mpeg1 or mpeg2
Feb 11 15:06:25 <sriram> okay
Feb 11 15:06:43 <hrw> flv is propertiary
Feb 11 15:18:26 <ant|work> gm
Feb 11 15:19:06 <ant|work> sirfred was so kind he patched again xserver-kdrive-imageon
Feb 11 15:19:36 <ant|work> now, what is the difference with xserver-kdrive-w100 ?
Feb 11 15:20:43 <ant|work> c7x0 was using it in the past, yet I see e.g. hx4700.conf using it
Feb 11 15:22:39 <ant|work> I suppose -imageon has Xv enabled and some more extensions...isn't?
Feb 11 15:27:02 <ant|work> ..found (see oebug 1752)
Feb 11 15:27:24 <Crofton> in EXTRA_OECONF, how do I know what the valid overrides are??
Feb 11 15:27:38 <Crofton> I have a _append_arm and I need to add _append_ppc
Feb 11 15:28:02 <Crofton> what are the valid values here ?
Feb 11 15:31:11 <hvontres|work> ant|work: did you and RP ever come up with a good fix for linux-rp 2.6.24 not resuming?
Feb 11 15:31:50 <ant|work> hvontres|work: I'm working on it...
Feb 11 15:32:05 <hvontres|work> ant|work: cool
Feb 11 15:32:06 <ant|work> hvontres|work: first try (disable cpufreq) doesn't solve
Feb 11 15:32:36 <ant|work> hvontres|work: now I'll try incrementally from the last working version
Feb 11 15:34:02 * ant|work wonders if there is somewhere an archive of defconfig-xxx versions to browse like svn or cvs ?
Feb 11 15:37:49 <sriram> mp4 is better, how after sometime my audio gets lost or video plays extremely slowly
Feb 11 15:42:16 <hvontres|work> ant|work: you could try to use mtn log on the defconfigs
Feb 11 15:43:31 <hvontres|work> ant|work: is there a bug in bugs.openembedded.org for this yet?
Feb 11 15:56:42 <ant|work> hvontres|work: I've seen one about Tosa I think, but nobody opened it
Feb 11 15:57:13 <ant|work> hvontres|work: "it" means for linux-rp-2.6.23 kernels
Feb 11 15:57:25 <ant|work> hvontres|work: broken suspend/resume
Feb 11 15:57:46 <ant|work> hvontres|work: (and reboot)
Feb 11 15:59:41 <ant|work> hvontres|work: there is activity on oebug 2134
Feb 11 16:00:08 <ant|work> hvontres|work: but has nothing to do
Feb 11 16:04:06 <hvontres|work> ant|work: thanks. I might try a couple of things on the way home tonight. (on poodle)
Feb 11 16:06:39 <ant|work> hvontres|work: I looked again but couldn't find a specific bug for the issue "linux-rp-2.6.23-r27 don't resume / reboot on Zaurus xy"
Feb 11 16:26:47 <undertook> hi all
Feb 11 16:31:59 <apaulsen> I have an intermittant problem with kdrive (1.4) I think where it stops recognizing keys.  No xevents are generated when this happens (using the soft keyboard or xautomation) and rebooting doesn't fix it.
Feb 11 16:32:33 <undertook> how do you run kdrive?
Feb 11 16:32:59 <apaulsen> undertook: I'm using gpe-image
Feb 11 16:33:14 <undertook> using Xvesa so right?
Feb 11 16:33:21 <apaulsen> Xfbdev
Feb 11 16:33:26 <undertook> aa yes
Feb 11 16:34:34 <undertook> does it have any arguments for keyboard? it works and then it stops?
Feb 11 16:36:08 <undertook> Xvesa has keyboard and mouse driver..
Feb 11 16:37:03 <apaulsen> undertook: there is no keyboard option specified
Feb 11 16:39:55 <undertook> apaulsen :do you use a touchscreen?
Feb 11 16:41:10 <apaulsen> undertook: yes.  Mouseclicks still work though.  And I tried using xautomation to generate keys and they don't work either.
Feb 11 16:47:33 <apaulsen> I get errors like this: http://rafb.net/p/pBz9yu46.html
Feb 11 17:23:41 <hrw> cu
Feb 11 17:35:21 <ScaredyCat> lo
Feb 11 17:35:58 <ScaredyCat> did someone add a dependancy on python-ncurses to gpsd and not commit the python-ncurses .bb ?
Feb 11 17:42:59 <mwester> ScaredyCat:  Yes.
Feb 11 18:05:08 <vivijim> mickey|zzZZzz: are you really sleeping? I need to talk to you about bossa conference...
Feb 11 18:13:38 <CIA-37> 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r28b0c849... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): bonnie++: add 1.03c
Feb 11 18:28:52 <likewise> ~seen jeremy_laine
Feb 11 18:28:54 <ibot> jeremy_laine <n=sharky@121.194.210.62.te-dns.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 18d 9h 53m 46s ago, saying: 'hi steliosk!'.
Feb 11 18:36:57 <thesing> hi everybody
Feb 11 19:04:50 <Crofton> how do I get the sound modules installed in an image?
Feb 11 19:05:43 <likewise> Crofton: let me look that one up
Feb 11 19:06:07 <Crofton> it looks like I need to add the board specifc modules to machine.conf?
Feb 11 19:06:09 <likewise> Crofton: ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL+="kernel-modules libao-alsa-plugin mpg321 alsa-utils-aplay alsa-utils-amixer alsa-utils-speakertest madplay vsftpd lighttpd mpd-alsa mpc findutils rsync nano madwifi-ng-modules madwifi-ng-tools"
Feb 11 19:06:31 <likewise> Crofton: or in local.conf using EXTRA_INSTALL
Feb 11 19:06:52 <Crofton> I think I can do it in machine.conf
Feb 11 19:06:57 <Crofton> at least for the modules
Feb 11 19:07:15 <likewise> Crofton: if it is common for every image that is built for that machine, yes, otherwise, no.
Feb 11 19:07:24 <Crofton> it should be
Feb 11 19:07:31 <Crofton> the OSK has the sound stuff on the card :)
Feb 11 19:07:34 <likewise> In OE, sound is generally not common in every image
Feb 11 19:07:40 <Crofton> yeah
Feb 11 19:07:59 <Crofton> since the underlying hw may not suport sound
Feb 11 19:08:09 <Crofton> I have alrady slected machine feature alsa
Feb 11 19:13:24 <likewise> ~seen khem
Feb 11 19:14:31 <Crofton> http://www.ti.com/corp/docs/oss/opensource.html
Feb 11 19:15:59 <ibot> khem <n=Khem@nat/montavista/x-ced337abc11b3afb> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 31d 31m 4s ago, saying: 'gfortran is needed on host now I wonder why'.
Feb 11 19:16:31 <likewise> Crofton: At least the wiki has some nice info: http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php?title=Category:Linux
Feb 11 19:17:22 <Crofton> yeah
Feb 11 20:08:33 <philippe> hi guys
Feb 11 20:09:00 <philippe> I wondered if there is a way to override a do_configure routine that is in an .inc file in a bb recipe.
Feb 11 20:21:04 <likewise> philippe: good question
Feb 11 20:21:28 <likewise> philippe: I wonder what happens if you just specify the function in both the .inc and .bb, (in the .bb after the include)
Feb 11 20:21:54 <philippe> likewise: well I might need to try it out then
Feb 11 20:23:34 <thesing> hi again.
Feb 11 20:24:09 <thesing> hvontres|work: did you have time to test the kexec-initramfs?
Feb 11 20:29:12 <steliosk> heh i own digikey 26Euros even before i start ordering ;)
Feb 11 20:29:38 <steliosk> 	Subtotal	€0,00
Feb 11 20:29:38 <steliosk> Handling	€8,00
Feb 11 20:29:38 <steliosk> Shipping	€18,00
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Feb 11 20:30:18 * steliosk wonders if he had to pay to use the site....
Feb 11 20:37:15 <CIA-37> 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * rc7aff113... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux.inc): linux.inc: typo fix for UBOOT_ADRESS
Feb 11 20:38:01 <hvontres|work> thesing: not yet. I managed to build the inintrmafs image. Where do I tell the kernel to use it?
Feb 11 20:40:19 <thesing> hvontres|work: atm you have to compile the kernel manually, and configure it (General setup -> initial RAM filesystem)
Feb 11 20:48:59 <Verty> Hey guys, I keep running into the same problem with OE when building external-toolchain, I found http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/openembedded-devel/2007-December/003761.html but that still no luck... any suggesties?
Feb 11 20:49:04 <Verty> error message: | The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/sonkei-0.0.1/arm!
Feb 11 20:56:54 <likewise> steliosk: Hi there, will you visit FOSDEM by any chance?
Feb 11 20:57:22 <philippe> likewise: and you? I will be there btw.
Feb 11 20:57:29 <likewise> philippe: yes
Feb 11 20:59:10 <likewise> philippe: you are organizer @ fosdem, right?
Feb 11 21:01:33 <philippe> likewise: yes I am 
Feb 11 21:01:47 <philippe> a bit less these days since I moved out of the country though
Feb 11 21:02:53 <philippe> likewise: well hope to meet you there sometime
Feb 11 21:03:14 <likewise> philippe: I'll hang around the OE booth.
Feb 11 21:34:12 <CIA-37> 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r41a55477... 10/ (1 conf/machine/mpc8313e-rdb.conf): mpc8313e-rdb.conf: Add UBOOT_ENTRYPOINT and UBOOT_LOADADDRESS.
Feb 11 21:35:03 <likewise> hi jwilliams 
Feb 11 21:35:13 <likewise> jwilliams: is that John Williams of MicroBlaze fame?
Feb 11 21:37:13 <jwilliams> likewise: No, another John Williams.  A very common name.
Feb 11 21:37:29 <likewise> jwilliams: just checking :-)
Feb 11 21:37:35 <jwilliams> np :-)
Feb 11 21:38:16 <hvontres|work> thesing: ahh, thanks. I'll givbe that a try later today
Feb 11 21:59:10 <thesing> ~logs
Feb 11 21:59:11 <ibot> [logs] apt/ibot/infobot/jbot/purl all log daily to http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/ where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz
Feb 11 22:17:39 <apaulsen> Continuing my problem from this morning: I have two omap5912osk boards; I just flashed the same kernels and filesystems on them and one's xkbd works and the other doesn't.  When I launch xev on the broken one, I get mouse events everywhere on the screen except when I click on xkbd.  The xkbd keys actually press, but no x events are generated.
Feb 11 22:20:33 <apaulsen> If I send keys with xautomation, I get errors from kdrive's xtest module like this: http://rafb.net/p/pBz9yu46.html  
Feb 11 23:36:27 <CIA-37> 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r118a617d... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
Feb 11 23:36:27 <CIA-37> logic-analyzer: Small fixes.
Feb 11 23:36:27 <CIA-37>  - added java2-runtime RDEPENDS
Feb 11 23:36:27 <CIA-37>  - added classpath-awt RDEPENDS
Feb 11 23:36:27 <CIA-37>  - added patch to make capture dialog scrollable (for small screens)
Feb 11 23:38:56 <flo_lap> rschuster: :)
Feb 11 23:39:34 <flo_lap> time to get an usb-otg cable :)
Feb 11 23:50:06 <thesing> hvontres|work: does poodle use locomokeyb as keyboard driver?
Feb 11 23:50:52 <CIA-37> 03likewise 07org.oe.dev * r2bf1435f... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): linux-2.6.24: Added mpc8313e-rdb machine as supported.
Feb 11 23:55:00 <hvontres|work> thesing: yes
Feb 11 23:55:13 <likewise> goodnite all
Feb 11 23:56:10 <thesing> ok then you can test: http://www2.informatik.hu-berlin.de/~tkunze/zaurus/patches/locomokeyb_suspendkey-3.patch  This patch enables suspend by pressing the cancel key. 
Feb 11 23:56:53 <hvontres|work> thesing: I'll take a look at it tonight. gotta run 
Feb 12 00:43:48 <Fique> morning all
Feb 12 00:47:21 <ant> RP: ping
Feb 12 00:49:22 <ant> RP: linux-rp-2.6.24 for c7x0 reboots and resumes correctly with
Feb 12 00:49:25 <ant> RP: # CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT is not set
Feb 12 00:49:39 <ant> RP: # CONFIG_NO_HZ is not set
Feb 12 00:49:50 <ant> RP: # CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS is not set
Feb 12 00:50:34 <ant> RP: I admit I didn't try the "vanilla" -rp-2.6.24...tomorrow
Feb 12 00:50:38 <ant> gn
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37> 03thebohemian 07org.oe.dev * r7e91a33e... 10/ (8 files in 3 dirs): 
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37> kobodeluxe: Fixed and patches.
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37>  - provide default configuration file
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37>  - added patch that makes use of a default config file
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37>  - wire device screen size into default config file
Feb 12 00:58:33 <CIA-37>  - added a patch that allows complete game control with touchscreen
Feb 12 00:58:36 <CIA-37>  - added a patch that automatically swaps display dimensions at startup
Feb 12 01:38:34 <CIA-37> 03osas 07org.oe.dev * r677d6197... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): lighttpd and sqlite promoted for slugos
Feb 12 02:51:00 <Fique> night all
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