**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 24 02:59:57 2008 Mar 24 03:03:21 scant: I cant solve this one in reasonable time Mar 24 03:05:48 XorA: =( Mar 24 03:09:40 can anyone else help? Mar 24 03:31:53 scant: ahah, found the cause of my problems Mar 24 03:35:25 XorA: wow, i didn't think you were here Mar 24 03:35:27 hehe Mar 24 03:35:37 XorA: i have some good news too, i think Mar 24 03:36:13 XorA: a developer has a make system, but it's not released yet Mar 24 03:39:08 I am here, but working on work stuff Mar 24 03:40:46 XorA: k Mar 24 05:26:11 good morning all Mar 24 08:11:46 morning Mar 24 08:13:31 methril :hi Mar 24 08:13:57 hi steliosk Mar 24 10:49:23 hi all Mar 24 10:50:52 hi Mar 24 10:51:53 i have a question regarding preferred kernel version, currently it's trying to build 2.6.21 but i have in local.conf: Mar 24 10:51:56 PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6_mioa701 = "2.6.21-hh20+cvs${UTGAVE}" Mar 24 12:00:36 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * rbabd4f89... 10/ (1 conf/machine/nokia800.conf): nokia800.conf: fix typo Mar 24 12:00:39 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r45e77acc... 10/ (1 packages/glibc/glibc.inc): glibc.inc: QA add LEAD_SONAME Mar 24 12:14:59 now im getting: Mar 24 12:15:00 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Mar 24 12:15:09 although i have in local.conf: Mar 24 12:15:20 PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-handhelds-2.6 = "2.6.21-hh20" Mar 24 12:15:32 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6" Mar 24 12:15:37 anyone can help? Mar 24 13:31:52 ok, i guess i figured it out but now i'm getting /media/disk/MioA701OE/temp/deploy/uclibc/images/mioa701// does not exist, you may need to bitbake it separately Mar 24 13:32:14 strange things is, only ../temp/deploy/glibc exists Mar 24 13:34:31 i have glibc/pstage instead of uclibc/pstage Mar 24 13:35:01 i have TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi" Mar 24 13:38:00 anyone can help? Mar 24 13:38:39 Miosc: not using Angstrom? Mar 24 13:38:50 XorA: yeah i'm using it Mar 24 13:38:53 2008.1 Mar 24 13:38:53 "linux-gnueabi" would be not uclibc Mar 24 13:39:13 ANGSTROM_MODE = "uclibc" if I remeber right Mar 24 13:39:21 dont set TARGET_OS Mar 24 13:39:44 XorA: ah ok, do i set angstrom mode in local.conf? Mar 24 13:39:58 Miosc: yes Mar 24 13:40:57 XorA: ok thanks :D Mar 24 13:43:50 also, i noticed som weirdness in conf/machine/.conf file, it sets up PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6" but it would go unnoticed by bitbake Mar 24 13:44:10 putting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-handhelds-2.6-2.6.21" in local.conf would solve it Mar 24 13:44:38 but plain "linux-handhelds-2.6" in local conf wouldnt work either Mar 24 13:51:59 seems like eabi is disabled for uclibc Mar 24 13:52:52 never done uclibc Mar 24 13:53:10 is there any difference between glibc and uclibc? Mar 24 13:53:26 like significant speedup? Mar 24 13:54:38 Miosc: http://www.uclibc.org/FAQ.html#doesnt_suck Mar 24 13:56:38 NAbyss: thanks, sounds like i want uclibc Mar 24 13:56:53 NAbyss: any idea whether i can enable eabi for uclibc? Mar 24 13:57:01 uclibc is bigger than glibc as soon as you need localisation Mar 24 13:57:54 XorA: the faq claims that with 170 locales uclibc has 500k and glibc is 30Mb... Mar 24 13:57:57 * Miosc confused Mar 24 13:57:59 :D Mar 24 13:58:44 libiconv + uclibc comes out bigger than glibc in our experiements Mar 24 14:11:19 XorA: strange... Mar 24 14:21:03 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * r18a835c4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Mar 24 14:21:03 Bug fix on dpkg package: #2574 Mar 24 14:21:03 It makes final dpkg scripts point to Mar 24 14:21:03 #!/usr/bin/perl Mar 24 14:21:03 instead of unexistent (at running time) Mar 24 14:21:04 #!.../tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/perl Mar 24 14:39:05 * * OE Bug 2574 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com Mar 24 14:39:07 * * all dpkg scripts are poiting erroneously to perl native in workdir Mar 24 14:39:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2574 Mar 24 15:03:04 i'm gettinng a note that multiple providers are available for virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-libc-for-gcc (uclibc, external-toolchain); Mar 24 15:03:44 and i should define PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-uclibcgnueabi-libc-for-gcc but that is already defined in conf/distro/angstrom-2008.1.conf Mar 24 15:03:52 anyone knows what to do? Mar 24 15:04:01 or is it safe to ignore? Mar 24 15:12:24 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7102b213... 10/ (1 packages/images/slugos-image.bb): slugos-image: Enable for ixp4xx machines other than nslu2 Mar 24 15:12:28 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r224361c9... 10/ (9 files in 6 dirs): linux-ixp4xx: Update to 2.6.24.3 and make it the default for ixp4xx machines. Tested on Freecom FSG-3. Mar 24 15:20:41 not even putting it in local.conf helps Mar 24 16:01:35 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r52701c76... 10/ (1 classes/e.bbclass): e.bbclass merge with Mamona Mar 24 16:01:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r67d0de9c... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-wm_cvs.bb): e-wm cvs ship preload .la files in -dev package Mar 24 16:01:45 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rfc79b692... 10/ (1 packages/openmoko-projects/diversity-daemon_svn.bb): diversity-daemon svn fix name and section Mar 24 17:15:33 helgeD: Morning :) Mar 24 17:16:21 helgeD: Thanks for taking a look at the r12 builds. It seems my weekends are getting busier now that it is spring...the curse of being a landowner Mar 24 17:23:14 woglinde: hi Mar 24 17:24:46 hi Mar 24 17:24:51 holidays are over Mar 24 17:25:24 yes :( Mar 24 17:26:32 woglinde: hi, can you put some stuff in .dev for us? Mar 24 17:27:19 woglinde: it is kind of complicated to ask on angstrom ml for get it into .dev first before being able to request for backport Mar 24 17:29:23 mr_nice email it or write a bugreport Mar 24 17:32:54 woglinde: ok, I will create a bug report and let you know about it. I need to check out recent .dev first. Mar 24 17:34:17 :) Mar 24 17:39:04 * * OE Bug 4117 has been created by  Mar 24 17:39:06 * * gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6-autobuild Mar 24 17:39:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4117 Mar 24 17:44:32 is open embedded also available on win32? Mar 24 17:45:39 miosc hm dont kniw if someone tested it under cygwin Mar 24 17:46:17 woglinde: mingw would be better :D Mar 24 17:47:02 try it Mar 24 17:47:08 and report if it works Mar 24 17:49:04 woglinde: ok, if find some time to test it Mar 24 17:52:41 woglinde: oe bug no 4084 Mar 24 17:52:59 woglinde: :) Mar 24 17:58:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f38c623... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 24 17:58:59 busybox 1.9.1: add files needed for openwrt-style 'telnet failsafe login' Mar 24 17:58:59 * the files aren't used in the recipe yet, just there for reference Mar 24 18:11:05 * * OE Bug 3990 has been RESOLVED (WONTFIX) by Mar 24 18:11:07 * * SanDisk ConnectPlus not working correctly Mar 24 18:11:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3990 Mar 24 18:15:04 * * OE Bug 4096 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Mar 24 18:15:06 * * autobuilder image contains 2.6.21 and 2.6.24 kernel images Mar 24 18:15:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4096 Mar 24 18:15:17 * * OE Bug 3680 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by Mar 24 18:15:19 * * kernel modules missing (pcmcia wlan cards, and mmc mod) in defconfig Mar 24 18:15:21 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3680 Mar 24 18:19:42 hvontres|work: n.p. Mar 24 18:26:05 * * OE Bug 2102 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com Mar 24 18:26:07 * * update-alternatives-dpkg paths are wrong Mar 24 18:26:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2102 Mar 24 18:27:13 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * rf7f15489... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 24 18:27:13 update-alternatives-dpkg: Adding support to relative paths. Mar 24 18:27:13 update-alternatives-cworth accept both: full and relative paths, but update-alternatives-dpkg accept only full paths. Mar 24 18:27:13 The best solution for that would be using only full paths but it would require change lots of bb files. Mar 24 18:27:13 By now consider to use only full paths on your bb files. Mar 24 18:29:59 http://pastebin.com/m2c3f953d - how is it possible, that ep93xx-gpio-interrupt-debounce.diff is applied twice? Mar 24 18:35:20 helgeD: BTW, it looks like the only change in the r13 images is a fix for tzdata, at least for the x11 image. Mar 24 18:37:31 Hi Mar 24 18:38:05 * * OE Bug 3046 has been RESOLVED (FIXED) by rodrigo.vivi(AT)gmail.com Mar 24 18:38:06 * * nokia800/pointercal isn't calibrated Mar 24 18:38:08 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3046 Mar 24 18:38:30 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * r0e9ccd98... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Mar 24 18:38:30 Adding pointercal configuration file for Nokia 770 Mar 24 18:38:30 This file was generated using ts_calibrate and tested in different devices. Mar 24 18:38:34 03rodrigo.vivi 07org.oe.dev * rcb11d308... 10/ (1 packages/pointercal/files/nokia800/pointercal): Mar 24 18:38:34 Adding functional pointercal file configuration for N800 Mar 24 18:38:34 This pointercal configuration has been hardly tested. Mar 24 18:39:39 hvontres|work: maybe you can help me with a (probably) stupid problem ? Mar 24 18:39:52 Does someone adds n810 pointercal too? Mar 24 18:40:15 I'm doing a mtn pull in my "stable" source tree. It gets quite some stuff from monotone.openembedded.org Mar 24 18:40:38 Then, a "mtn update" does not show me the latest changes (e.g. the "-r13" change). Why ? Mar 24 18:40:44 ViVIJIM:? Mar 24 18:40:48 Do I need another server ? Mar 24 18:41:19 Hrw|tablet: hi Mar 24 18:42:12 Vivijim: n810 has other ts controller then n800 - maemo provides other pointercals Mar 24 18:43:42 Hrw|tablet: it is strange... because we have tested the same pointercall and it is working on both: n800 and n810 Mar 24 18:44:06 Cool then Mar 24 19:06:42 woglinde: did you have some time to look at the patch? Mar 24 19:07:25 yes I will check it in Mar 24 19:07:36 woglinde: thanks :) Mar 24 19:08:30 helgeD: when your do your mtn pull, did you tell it to pull from the angstrom branch? I use mtn pull --db=OE.mtn monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.{dev,angstrom*} to pull Mar 24 19:08:48 hms Mar 24 19:08:51 pull hangs Mar 24 19:15:51 woglinde: hm, same here Mar 24 20:43:10 hi Mar 24 20:44:16 if i have a second bitbake dir (incl. own machine confs) do i also need to add them do the BBPATH env? Mar 24 20:45:03 only BBFILE_PATTERN_foobar in local.conf doesnt help or? Mar 24 20:50:53 law|ibook: I think so... The pattern are for bb files only iirc. Mar 24 21:01:01 what I did for fun on Saturday http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/sets/72157604221601303/ Mar 24 21:04:46 Crofton: industrial speleo? Mar 24 21:05:34 Crofton: what is all the digging about? Mar 24 21:05:56 ahh, caving :-) Mar 24 21:05:58 Crofton : Preparing for the on-coming OE friendly fire exchanges ? :) Mar 24 21:06:00 we are looking for a cave :) Mar 24 21:06:22 Preparing for Iranian missles :) Mar 24 21:06:29 wait, that guy is nuts Mar 24 21:06:34 very cool Mar 24 21:06:51 We need to dig at the bottom of the pipe now :( Mar 24 21:07:01 What country is this? Mar 24 21:07:15 USA Mar 24 21:07:25 SW Virginia Mar 24 21:07:40 * keesj did a little speleo (caving) in france. Mar 24 21:08:40 cool Mar 24 21:09:20 I just did not expect this on this channel :p Mar 24 21:10:02 It is could to know a little about the people behind the nicks Mar 24 21:11:30 crofton :) Mar 24 21:23:46 You're not allowed to dig them yourself, though -- it's not real spelunking then! :P :D Mar 24 21:28:32 well, you dig into them :) there is a very large system underneath this dig Mar 24 21:30:09 Crofton: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/2355368301/in/set-72157604221601303/ -> nice to see the heavy equipment operator is well lubed :) Mar 24 21:31:29 Oh, so that tube actually goes into something else,then? Mar 24 21:31:37 not yet :( Mar 24 21:31:59 hvontres|work: I noticed that too... Mar 24 21:32:01 hvontres|work, he was telling the operator where to dig Mar 24 21:32:31 the operator was not, the rest of us, well :) Mar 24 21:32:42 Crofton: ohh, so the PBR can is just a surveying instrument :) Mar 24 21:32:51 yes Mar 24 21:32:52 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32615155@N00/2356203682/in/set-72157604221601303/ Mar 24 21:33:04 here we are reviewing the geo-technical data :) Mar 24 21:33:38 And what was that huge block of concrete and metal that was extracted? Mar 24 21:37:00 nice plave to put a geocache :p Mar 24 21:39:59 mwester, that was natural rock, I think Mar 24 22:17:50 03xjqian 07org.oe.dev * r848c6e3f... 10/ (8 files in 2 dirs): db: fix upstream SRC_URI, unify db4. Mar 24 23:40:26 just a general question, should I move my embedded device to kernel 2.6.24 or wait till its been fleshed out more? Mar 24 23:40:34 using 2.6.23 now Mar 24 23:44:04 Fique: staying up to date is always a good idea... so if you have enough time to follow the latest linux releases you should do. Mar 24 23:51:36 alright thank you Mar 24 23:52:56 good night Mar 25 00:17:58 does anyone know where I can download the angstrom toolchain for spitz? 'The external toolchain could not be found in /usr/local/angstrom-2007.1/arm" Mar 25 00:19:32 I see "http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/toolchain/" Mar 25 00:20:01 however if it is one of these which is it? Mar 25 00:58:20 darmou: That sounds like something is not configured correctly. Are you using the stable or the dev branch? Mar 25 01:01:16 I'm not sure I just followed the instructions in openembedded getting started document Mar 25 01:01:46 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Mar 25 01:06:38 RP: I've pushed a fix for the ipkg->opkg breakage. Mar 25 01:07:14 morning Mar 25 01:07:48 hi XorA Mar 25 01:08:09 it wasnt me Mar 25 01:08:20 what wasn't you? Mar 25 01:08:42 the dead cop down the street? I wasn't suspecting you at all Mar 25 01:09:11 god I'm such a bad person Mar 25 01:11:20 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * raff156eb... 10/ (1 classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass): rootfs_ipk.bbclass: Emergency addition to fix image generation where ipkg is still the package manager included in the image. Mar 25 01:14:42 * XorA hangs his head Mar 25 01:16:13 XorA: ? Mar 25 01:19:38 zecke pasted "autotools fixlet" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/57961 Mar 25 01:22:00 I'm having trouble building using bitbake, making nano to test and getting an error about a missing external toolchain Mar 25 01:22:06 can anyone help? Mar 25 01:23:29 * darmou test Mar 25 01:23:42 must have had a stale connection before Mar 25 02:00:18 woot think I solved it, needed to update a few things like bitbake and update build config. Mar 25 02:03:26 XorA: hi, you here? Mar 25 02:03:46 scant: you Mar 25 02:03:48 -u Mar 25 02:05:00 XorA: were you able to figure anything out? Mar 25 02:06:16 scant: sorry I just didnt have time outside OM work yesterday Mar 25 02:07:01 XorA: can you look at it some more now? Mar 25 02:07:44 scant: I wont have time for about 2 weeks Mar 25 02:08:00 XorA: =( Mar 25 02:08:21 XorA: know of anyone else who can help me? Mar 25 02:08:51 scant: quite a few of the guys here probably can, its just finding someone who isnt busy at work Mar 25 02:09:08 oh Mar 25 02:09:40 anyone here who can help? Mar 25 02:12:06 scant: otherwise post you .bb plus errors on bugtracker, maybe you attract someone outside of your timezone Mar 25 02:19:17 hmm Mar 25 02:28:19 aha! Mar 25 02:28:47 bitbake does not report when a required program is not found Mar 25 02:39:38 cd .. Mar 25 02:39:40 doh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 25 02:59:56 2008