**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 28 02:59:57 2008 Jun 28 04:33:43 hmm any of you guys mess with ALIX boards? Jun 28 06:16:32 hey kergoth. how goes it? Jun 28 06:17:35 hey ljp. pretty good, you? Jun 28 06:18:10 good. a bit weird thinking I now work for Nokia Jun 28 06:19:38 did you know 14 nokia phones are made each second? Jun 28 06:19:52 can't say that i did. you working for nokia directly, or via tt? Jun 28 06:20:26 via TT. but we are Nokia, just a unit within. Like S60 or maemo units Jun 28 06:24:03 ahh thats cool Jun 28 06:27:42 ya, and we all got a free nokia phone to use Jun 28 06:33:45 heh, now that's worth it Jun 28 06:33:45 :D Jun 28 06:40:07 ljp: any Nokia phone you choose? Jun 28 06:50:30 got to pick from 5 top of the line ones. I got an E90 Jun 28 06:50:56 mickeyl: they have to bribe us somehow Jun 28 06:51:19 got Qtopia on it yet? :) Jun 28 06:52:46 cant comment on anything like that Jun 28 06:53:05 haha Jun 28 06:53:07 right Jun 28 06:54:00 nicksetup Jun 28 06:54:05 #nicksetup Jun 28 06:54:40 anybosy using gumstix? Jun 28 06:55:27 sorry mixed up Jun 28 06:55:36 anybody using gustmix? Jun 28 06:57:10 lots of folks here, but due to timezones you better ask later Jun 28 06:59:29 i need an RFS for At91Sam9263 Jun 28 07:00:23 ok; what time ? Jun 28 08:07:00 gm Jun 28 08:11:07 mickey|breakfast: bon appetit Jun 28 08:11:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * red671418... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: fix evm patches Jun 28 08:53:07 morning all Jun 28 09:33:47 mroning Jun 28 09:33:50 morning Jun 28 09:34:17 m4-native fails for me, upon restarting bitbake it succeeds. (Multithreaded bitbake) Anyone seen this with current head? Jun 28 10:22:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r658e9feb... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-omap2_git.bb): linux-omap2 git: update SRCREV Jun 28 10:36:58 hi guys Jun 28 10:37:13 how can I use git in OE to fetch my sources ? Jun 28 10:38:47 I'd like to use git to pull a branch from kernel.org git Jun 28 10:39:04 and then again to update that tree from my git repor with the e-series changes in it. Jun 28 10:40:13 :q Jun 28 10:41:44 anyone alive ? Jun 28 10:42:01 Spyro: you mean something like 'SRC_URI = "git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git;protocol=git;branch=andy"', but with local changes in that branch ? Jun 28 10:42:31 cyrilRomain: no Jun 28 10:42:45 cyrilRomain: my problem is that my git repo has a limited bandwidth connection Jun 28 10:42:54 I dont want people pulling the entire tree from it Jun 28 10:43:02 morning Jun 28 10:43:03 I want them to pull kernel.org and then pull the branch from it Jun 28 10:43:47 pull kernel.org for the bulk and then pull my branch from my git repo, that is Jun 28 10:44:03 Spyro: I see. But I don't know how to do that :-/ Jun 28 10:44:31 darn Jun 28 10:44:57 The git fetcher can't handle that at present Jun 28 10:45:43 hi pb Jun 28 10:46:51 RP: thats a damn shame Jun 28 10:46:55 it would require a new keyword such as 'remotebranch=' (or something like that) Jun 28 11:15:52 i'm trying to add a build an angstrom image for a new machine. Can anyone point me at some good instructions for setting up a new machine? Jun 28 11:23:29 oliford: http://oe.linuxtogo.org/user-manual&dpage=commonuse_new_machine Jun 28 11:23:45 oliford: I think the best is to see how it is done for others machines Jun 28 11:23:52 yea, i've done that bit Jun 28 11:24:04 Its the kernel bit that I don't get though Jun 28 11:24:26 I have my own kernel image, with everything necessary compiled in Jun 28 11:25:08 so I don't know what to put for the 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' Jun 28 11:25:37 oliford: so add a recipe for your kernel in org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/ Jun 28 11:25:56 oliford: and set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel to your kernel Jun 28 11:26:41 * oliford investigates packages/linux Jun 28 11:26:42 chrs Jun 28 11:29:02 oliford: e.g. org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/mykernel_2.6.xx.bb and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "mykernel" Jun 28 11:34:07 ok, i'm investigating what to put in it atm though Jun 28 11:35:31 although, I am wondering why I need this, since angstrom will have no part in how the kernel is loaded Jun 28 11:35:55 I suppose I will eventually switch to modules and then it'll need to know about it Jun 28 11:39:09 oliford: I forgot to mention the above is to build the kernel with OE. I you have a prebuilt kernel image, Jun 28 11:39:42 if you have a prebuilt kernel image you just want to use, mykernel_2.6.xx.bb is not required Jun 28 11:40:39 oh Jun 28 11:40:58 ASSUME_PROVIDED can be used to tell OE not to build the kernel (since you already have it) Jun 28 11:41:05 ok, so in that case what is put in 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' Jun 28 11:41:30 but I don't know if OE can build an image without the kernel Jun 28 11:41:51 * cyrilRomain looks to a recent mails about that in ML Jun 28 11:43:42 hmm mail thread ends without clear answer... Jun 28 11:44:02 cyrilRomain, I made the kernel bb file work :( Jun 28 11:44:15 I guess I should mention that Jun 28 11:44:36 this is not an ideal solution Jun 28 11:46:16 hm I'm tempted to say it's better to create mykernel_2.6.xx.bb and let OE build the kernel (it's even better if kernel need patch in future) Jun 28 11:46:44 Crofton|work: have you an ideal solution for oliford (even if not implemented yet) ? Jun 28 11:46:50 yea, i was doing that Jun 28 11:47:22 well, i have a git repo which i can put in as the src_uri and see if that all works Jun 28 11:48:06 no Jun 28 11:48:09 trouble is the bootloader is either something i wrote myself which needs the kernel image compiled in, or HaRET Jun 28 11:48:16 oliford: cool, so I think it's the way to go :) Jun 28 11:48:22 I can't work out all the places that try to build the bb file Jun 28 11:48:37 just build another kernel :) Jun 28 11:54:26 ok, while that is doing whatever it's doing, totally different question.. Jun 28 11:55:26 there is an app called 'cumulus'. They give a ipkg package for familar which won't install on angstrom because it requires libqte2, which only exists in the familiar repos, not for angstrom Jun 28 11:55:46 how would I go about getting/building libqte2 for the selected angstrom in OE? Jun 28 11:58:58 oliford: 'bitbake qte' should be enough Jun 28 11:59:27 oliford: but maybe do you need qte-mt or qte-mt-static instead (?) Jun 28 12:00:25 is qte the same as qte2? Jun 28 12:00:58 oliford there is only qte2 in org.openembedded.dev Jun 28 12:01:13 ok, well, it seems to be building it Jun 28 12:01:14 'bitbake qte' will actually build qte_2.3.10.bb Jun 28 12:01:20 yes, it is doing so Jun 28 12:01:35 meanwhile, back in kernel land... Jun 28 12:02:01 I've made packages/linux/linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3.bb by following a few other in that dir Jun 28 12:02:47 i tried 'bitbake linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3' to build it but i cant find it. Do I have to do bitbake -b thefile or should it find it itself Jun 28 12:03:05 *it can't find Jun 28 12:03:22 oliford: you can indeed use 'bitbake -b path_to_file.bb', but Jun 28 12:03:30 oliford: separate recipe name and version with "_", not "-" Jun 28 12:03:39 ok Jun 28 12:03:56 you should call linux-hpipaq214-2.6.25-v3.bb linux-hpipaq214_2.6.25-v3.bb instead Jun 28 12:04:32 i'll do so when bitbake allows me some of my processor time back Jun 28 12:37:07 Is there a timeline to move the oe.net to oe.org? Jun 28 12:37:25 some of the .org pages are broken (getting started) Jun 28 12:38:57 is something wron with .org? Jun 28 12:39:17 oh pages I read packages.. Jun 28 16:02:26 how are you measuring network performance. is there anything lighter than netperf? Jun 28 16:05:21 mickeyl: there is nc (netcat) Jun 28 16:05:49 mickeyl: or did you ask someone specific? (seems to be an irc netsplit, i missed out) Jun 28 16:06:03 no, that was just into the room. thasks Jun 28 16:06:05 thanks Jun 28 16:06:35 mickeyl: nc is like cat, but over a socket. One end does listen (-l), the other just cats. Jun 28 16:06:59 right. although that needs a server at the other end Jun 28 16:07:09 mickeyl: nc can be the server Jun 28 16:07:31 sure, but still it needs special preparing Jun 28 16:07:45 ideally it would be something over http Jun 28 16:07:51 that i can use with any other site Jun 28 16:07:56 mickeyl: curl? bing? Jun 28 16:08:27 bing! Jun 28 16:08:42 that seems very light Jun 28 16:08:44 been a while since I've used bing, but it seems sane Jun 28 16:19:28 re Jun 28 18:26:33 OMG, my newly acquired dreambox use OE Jun 28 18:41:44 keesj didnt you know? Jun 28 19:00:35 nope Jun 28 19:00:46 hehe *g* Jun 28 19:01:00 ~dreambox Jun 28 19:01:06 hm Jun 28 19:01:10 ~pastebin Jun 28 19:01:11 [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste Jun 28 19:04:38 I have an oldy (dm600pvr) Jun 28 19:06:04 ~seen tmbinc Jun 28 19:06:07 tmbinc was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 19d 4h 18m 44s ago, saying: 'cdrtools is only available in native-form, and I definitely want to avoid looking into the schily makefile system'. Jun 28 19:12:29 hi Jun 28 19:14:17 woglinde: you worked on dreambox? Jun 28 19:14:38 keesj nope Jun 28 19:14:41 rofl, http://www.viksoe.dk/code/asmil.htm Jun 28 19:14:45 but I know some developer Jun 28 19:15:40 *g* Go pick on someone else (like LISP programmers. I don't like them). Jun 28 19:15:49 from kergoth's link Jun 28 19:16:30 Oh, be nice to the LISP programmers, they're like antiques. Pick in Java programmers. :D Jun 28 19:16:45 but a funny Idea Jun 28 19:17:06 386 asm converter to .net Jun 28 19:18:52 oh its from 2001 Jun 28 19:22:30 it's the start of a .net x86 emulator i guess Jun 28 19:22:48 perhaps not Jun 28 19:45:30 I'm having trouble bitbake'ing a package called sqlite3. It says "No such file or directory" in do_rm_work_all Jun 28 19:45:56 its not really giving any info i can use to work out whats happening, without going through the python source (of bitbake?) Jun 28 19:48:04 oh, its now giving the error when i run bitbake at all Jun 28 19:48:58 ok, it seems to have broken its own environment Jun 28 20:47:47 oliford: a good place to start is to look in the scripts generated by bitbake you can find them in "tmp/*/work/item/temp" Jun 28 20:48:49 ifcon Jun 28 21:08:39 Hi guys Jun 28 21:08:51 Im trying to set up a bitbake recipie for e-series. Jun 28 21:09:22 I've created a local.conf with MACHINE="eseries_pxa" Jun 28 21:09:32 and a "eseries_pxa.conf" file Jun 28 21:10:06 with PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-eseries-2.6_git" Jun 28 21:10:19 but it insists on trying to build the hh.org kernel Jun 28 21:10:33 any idea why ? Jun 28 21:10:58 yes, i'm having that problem too, although mine is trying to build just about every kernel Jun 28 21:13:04 its not very clear to me how all the various conf and .bb files fit together... Jun 28 21:20:10 hmm, now libqte has broken by making a directory that is _actually_ called "libqte-opie-${OPIE_CVS_PV}-r2" Jun 28 21:24:52 I wasn't intending to have anything todo with OPIE so what's going on there? Jun 28 21:25:05 its incomprehensibel... Jun 28 21:25:31 maybe I'll try setting that var... Jun 28 21:25:36 oh Jun 28 21:25:48 much failure Jun 28 21:27:53 gah! Jun 28 21:28:02 NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (linux-handhelds-2.6, linux, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-bast, linux-bd-neon-2.6, linux-omap-2.6, gumstix-kernel, linux-rt); Jun 28 21:28:02 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Jun 28 21:28:09 I _did_ set that Jun 28 21:28:14 it just ignores it :-( Jun 28 21:31:15 any bitbake experts here ? Jun 28 21:31:47 spyro sure you set it? Jun 28 21:31:50 run bitbake -i Jun 28 21:32:36 and type PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Jun 28 21:34:43 ok Jun 28 21:35:06 BB>> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Jun 28 21:35:07 SHELL: ERROR: 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel' command is not a valid command. Jun 28 21:35:07 BB>> Jun 28 21:36:53 ups Jun 28 21:36:55 getvar Jun 28 21:36:57 sorry Jun 28 21:37:04 getvar PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Jun 28 21:37:16 where did you set it? Jun 28 21:37:19 in local.conf? Jun 28 21:39:14 it shows linux-eseries-2.6_git Jun 28 21:39:22 which matches the name of the .bb file I created Jun 28 21:39:36 no ,its set in machine/eseries_pxa Jun 28 21:39:58 i wondered if this was because I had MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 ..." in my conf file Jun 28 21:40:02 why does it get it wrong when I try to build then ? Jun 28 21:40:28 it now only seems to want to build my kernel (which fails for other reasons). but I've done so much fiddling I don't know what fixed it Jun 28 21:41:03 oliford: mine knows which kernel to build apparently but just doesnt do it anyway, and builds some random one Jun 28 21:41:43 yes, thats what mine did Jun 28 21:41:54 it tried to build 'em all Jun 28 21:42:18 but now doesn't. Can't tell you why though, sorry Jun 28 21:42:31 darn Jun 28 21:42:33 Spyro spyro hm this machine recipe isnt in oe Jun 28 21:42:44 woglinde: no Im trying to create it Jun 28 21:43:19 ah Jun 28 21:44:23 could you binpaste it? Jun 28 21:44:40 got a pastebin ahandy ? Jun 28 21:44:49 ~pastebin Jun 28 21:44:50 [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste Jun 28 21:44:54 *g* Jun 28 21:45:01 ibot snack Jun 28 21:45:02 * ibot belches loudly. Oup, 'begpardon. Jun 28 21:45:17 http://pastebin.com/m7c961310 Jun 28 21:46:00 spyro in local.conf you should set MACHINE= and perhaps MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION = "2.6" Jun 28 21:46:23 I have MACHINE="eseries_pxa" Jun 28 21:46:30 spyro a thats the kernel.bb Jun 28 21:46:35 but not the machine conf Jun 28 21:46:54 I have eseries_pxa.conf if you want to see that too ? Jun 28 21:47:04 yes Jun 28 21:47:13 bb looks fine so far Jun 28 21:47:58 http://pastebin.com/d3de758bb Jun 28 21:48:06 how did you name the kernel .bb? Jun 28 21:48:35 org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-eseries-2.6_git.bb Jun 28 21:51:12 hmhm Jun 28 21:51:17 this should work Jun 28 21:51:37 which distro? Jun 28 21:51:54 could you pastebin the local.conf too? Jun 28 21:53:33 http://pastebin.com/m33f5159b Jun 28 21:53:35 angstrom Jun 28 21:53:41 woglinde: thanks for the help btw :) Jun 28 21:56:03 hm which machine you have? that you can set PARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 8" Jun 28 21:56:35 if you have this power you should consider to set BB_NUMBER_THREADS = "2" or more Jun 28 21:57:38 ooh, thanks! Jun 28 21:57:59 hm Jun 28 21:58:04 whats bitbake -i Jun 28 21:58:10 I have a dual core AM2 Athlon64 X2 2.2GHz with 8GB DDR2/800 Jun 28 21:58:11 getvar MACHINE saying? Jun 28 21:58:31 eseries_pxa Jun 28 21:59:05 and PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ? Jun 28 21:59:27 linux-eseries-2.6_git Jun 28 21:59:51 okay Jun 28 21:59:55 ah Jun 28 21:59:57 mom Jun 28 22:01:30 hm it should work Jun 28 22:01:48 whats happen when you type bitbake linux? Jun 28 22:02:13 ah I am dump Jun 28 22:02:19 DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" Jun 28 22:02:21 hehe Jun 28 22:02:30 thats prevent it from build Jun 28 22:02:34 lol Jun 28 22:02:47 I didnt notice it earlier Jun 28 22:03:20 DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" we use mostly when we check in newer version which than arent the default version to build Jun 28 22:03:38 so every can test and breaks no build Jun 28 22:03:47 or functional Jun 28 22:03:56 oh Jun 28 22:03:58 bugger :) Jun 28 22:04:37 *trying again* Jun 28 22:05:45 ...handling bitbake files... Jun 28 22:06:21 yea, i got rid of everything from the one i copied that I didn't understand Jun 28 22:06:37 oliford: you work like I do :) Jun 28 22:06:45 *argh!* Jun 28 22:06:49 it's ending up in the wrong dir though when it tries to build the kernel Jun 28 22:06:56 NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (linux-handhelds-2.6, linux, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-bast, linux-bd-neon-2.6, linux-omap-2.6, gumstix-kernel, linux-rt); Jun 28 22:06:57 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel Jun 28 22:08:10 woglinde: any idea? Jun 28 22:11:25 ? Jun 28 22:15:20 did you delete the line DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" ? Jun 28 22:15:27 yes Jun 28 22:16:13 hm try run bitbake -DDD linux and lookout if it skips your .bb Jun 28 22:17:18 gah! increasing the number of threads makes BB hard to kill :) Jun 28 22:20:55 it produces a massive amount of output Jun 28 22:22:01 spyro hehe yes Jun 28 22:22:22 but than I am out of ideas Jun 28 22:23:23 is there a way I can it to not do all of the kernel module stuff? My kernel is currently all compiled in Jun 28 22:23:49 DEBUG: File '/home/ian/projects/eseries/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-eseries-2.6_git.bb' is unbuildable, removing... Jun 28 22:23:50 aha Jun 28 22:24:05 what does that mean ? Jun 28 22:24:11 (besides the obvious) Jun 28 22:48:36 hm. its lookint for TARGET_PREFIX-depmod Jun 28 22:48:47 why?! Jun 28 22:50:17 kernel class seems to be the cause Jun 28 22:50:27 but all the kernel images use that and they work Jun 28 22:50:32 hm Jun 28 22:51:47 dont why this is strange with depmod Jun 28 22:52:35 I think I fixed it Jun 28 22:52:57 found a line in another machine file that looks like it sorts it Jun 28 22:53:01 *testing* Jun 28 22:56:50 oops. *testing take 2* Jun 28 22:57:25 oe _really_ needs some kind of automatic weed-out-unbuildable-crap check run on it periodically... Jun 28 22:59:09 shit. still no-build Jun 28 23:00:22 hm, possibly a missed '-' character Jun 28 23:00:55 is there a way to tell BB what changed so it doesnt have to rebuild the entire cache _every_ _single_ _time_ ? Jun 28 23:01:10 uh? Jun 28 23:01:11 hm Jun 28 23:01:24 every time I change my machine def it rebuilds the cache Jun 28 23:01:32 only when you change local.conf or seroius toolchains stuff Jun 28 23:01:43 kernel is serious toolchain stuff Jun 28 23:02:05 woglinde: yeah but Im not changing that Im just adding one PREF_PROVIDER line to the machine def. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 29 02:59:56 2008