**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 02 02:59:57 2009 Mar 02 04:42:36 03mwester  07org.openembedded.dev * ra242647043 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-slugos-versions.inc: SlugOS: set preferred version for gstreamer as well Mar 02 04:42:46 03mwester  07org.openembedded.dev * rbb5487c761 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc: SlugOS: set version on dev branch to 5.4-alpha now Mar 02 07:16:12 Here's the destruction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 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Mar 02 07:47:12 too much drugs :) Mar 02 08:18:49 away mckoan; nick mckoan|abroad Mar 02 08:33:57 morning Mar 02 08:35:41 hoy Mar 02 08:42:54 hello everybody Mar 02 08:44:14 I sent the subscription e-mail for OE mailing lists. How long I have to wait in order to be accepted? Mar 02 08:56:25 morning all ! Mar 02 09:00:47 Hi everybody, I'm new to this chat, and I have a question about OE mailing list. Mar 02 09:06:15 I sent the subscription e-mail for OE mailing lists. How long I have to wait in order to be accepted?ù Mar 02 09:09:10 I'm trying to compile bluez4, and so I'd like to post to oe_devel, but I need to be confirmed to do this. Mar 02 10:10:45 good morning Mar 02 10:13:05 hi florian Mar 02 10:13:07 morning Mar 02 10:13:28 morning florian hrw Mar 02 10:17:48 has anyone tried to bake any of the latest releases of the gstreamer plugins? Mar 02 10:19:54 hmm Mar 02 10:20:45 it obviously has libtool issues there :/ Mar 02 10:20:49 i had no luck so far Mar 02 10:21:04 Can somebody take a look commit 4e1b79d2d824ae7e0204251a09e852c24045c54a, please? I think it breaks opkg .list files - paths are being cut at 99 char Mar 02 10:21:36 already put in a bug report with the gstreamer guys at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572532 and posted on the libtool ML Mar 02 10:34:27 mickeyl ping Mar 02 10:37:44 hi everyone Mar 02 10:38:13 I sent the subscription e-mail for OE mailing lists. How long I have to wait in order to be accepted? Mar 02 10:38:39 no idea,recalcati i'm also new here Mar 02 10:39:02 i'm just setting up openembedded Mar 02 10:39:29 do I need to install manually the compiler and other tools or they should be automatically installed ? Mar 02 10:41:49 crosscompiler and other native tools should be automatically built Mar 02 10:41:57 except for bitbake Mar 02 10:42:11 and oe dependencies Mar 02 10:42:50 recalcati_oe: short time Mar 02 10:43:28 christian02: there is a wiki. I search it. you have to confugured it and then it does all by itself Mar 02 10:44:03 hrw: thanks, I wait impatient Mar 02 10:44:03 i followed the wiki point by point Mar 02 10:44:24 re-tell me the link, where is the pb ? Mar 02 10:45:18 but when i reach the last point,bitbake Mar 02 10:46:41 it says me "Please install following missing utilities: C++ Compiler (${BUILD_PREFIX}g++),help2man,diffstat,texi2html,makeinfo,cvs,svn,gawk" Mar 02 10:47:36 then you should install those packages Mar 02 10:48:03 most desktop distros come with a preselection of development utilities, you might want to check if you can select and install those Mar 02 10:48:29 or use your respective package installer to install them manually Mar 02 10:49:00 so they are not auto installed by oe Mar 02 10:49:21 got it Mar 02 10:49:33 oe can't install software to your host system Mar 02 10:49:58 it doesn't even have permission to do that (or should not have) :) Mar 02 10:50:42 ok,i'll try it then Mar 02 10:50:54 so everything you need to build and run oe itself needs to be present on your host system Mar 02 10:50:59 why it doesn't list the compiler name?i have the wrong settings or it's normal? Mar 02 10:51:34 then when you want to crosscompile anything, like e.g. with java or so, then oe builds a native version of the java compiler inside oe and then uses that to crosscompile (for example) Mar 02 10:52:24 i don't know whether that always displays the variable or whether you just haven't set an architecture yet Mar 02 10:52:41 but it doesn't matter anyways, you simply need gcc that's it Mar 02 10:54:08 ok,i'll try Mar 02 10:54:13 oe can't auto install, because has to be distro independent Mar 02 10:54:36 there are some apt-get suggested here http://www.kaeilos.com/?q=download Mar 02 10:54:50 for apt-get based distros Mar 02 10:55:05 florian: good morning Mar 02 10:56:18 that link is really useful Mar 02 10:56:49 but i don't see gcc there Mar 02 10:57:12 everybody probably automatically assumes you have that installed Mar 02 10:57:42 lol,am i the only one to not have it ? :D Mar 02 10:58:17 i've never worked with a precompiled system therefore i've always had it :) Mar 02 10:58:20 and the shouldn't be a specific gcc for an architecture? Mar 02 10:58:28 haha :P Mar 02 10:58:34 the specific one comes inside OE afterwards Mar 02 10:58:44 you don't need to worry about that on your host system side Mar 02 10:58:47 so i just need to download normal gcc Mar 02 10:58:56 si Mar 02 10:59:02 ok Mar 02 10:59:05 strange Mar 02 10:59:09 i should have that... Mar 02 10:59:33 recalcati_oe: you are using KaeilOS? Mar 02 11:00:03 i tried to install and it says i have gcc Mar 02 11:00:05 :( Mar 02 11:00:53 I download and compile it. I set MACHINE=beagleboard and it built a console-image succesfully. but I didn't boot it because I have to build really Kaelios for beagleboard, not only console-image. I'll do it. Mar 02 11:04:14 and g++ ? Mar 02 11:04:56 brb Mar 02 11:05:41 no,i was missing it Mar 02 11:05:43 thanks Mar 02 11:07:35 thank you everyone,works now Mar 02 11:07:45 good! Mar 02 11:08:54 have fun Mar 02 11:18:34 Hello!.. bitbake opie-image for x86 = black screen in QEMU and on real computer (+ yellow cursor) Mar 02 11:19:53 opie? someone still uses it? Mar 02 11:20:02 replacement? Mar 02 11:20:25 fpga: and you have working framebuffer etc? you tried to run 'qpe -nodaemon' to see what it will say? Mar 02 11:21:09 I see that my console switching to color framebuffer mode and I see color text, so framebuffer OK Mar 02 11:22:09 "opie? someone still uses it?" What do you recommend me as replacement? I'm newbie... I need lightweight DE for touchscreen... Mar 02 11:22:21 opie nearly ended any development. and I never heard of someone who use it on raw x86 (instead of using it in qvfb for development) Mar 02 11:22:28 fpga: x11-gpe-image? Mar 02 11:23:11 you recommend me GPE? :) Which system requirements for GPE? Can I write Qt programms for it? And with wxWidgets? Mar 02 11:23:39 fpga: gpe uses x11 Mar 02 11:23:49 fpga: yes both, its just an x11 environment Mar 02 11:24:00 opie uses raw framebuffer and qt/e 2.3 so you cant use qt/wxwidgets with it Mar 02 11:24:22 fpga: for new systems I would call opie dead Mar 02 11:24:56 let it stay where it was done for - arm pda devices Mar 02 11:27:18 ok, understand... But X server... huge, more RAM... I can't run GPE on my 32 Mb RAM ARM board... Mar 02 11:27:51 sure... Mar 02 11:28:02 and your x86 board has 32MB ram too? Mar 02 11:32:51 no, 256 Mb Mar 02 11:32:53 lo all Mar 02 11:33:06 fpga: and 256MB is not enough for x11... ok Mar 02 11:33:13 =))) Mar 02 11:34:19 for x86 with 256 Mb - enought, but for 32 Mb ARM - too much. So, I must use at least 64 Mb with ARM? Mar 02 11:34:43 * hrw never used 32MB ram device with linux Mar 02 11:36:35 my friend said, that GPE >= 64 Mb... Mar 02 11:41:39 fpga: x11 runs fine on a machine with 32MB RAM. Mar 02 11:41:57 indeed, that was the platform that gpe was originally developed for. Mar 02 11:42:28 I think your friend has been feeding you bad information :-} Mar 02 11:43:27 He is Linux kernel specialist, familiar with OE, Angstrom GPE... But on my new ARM board I will use 64 Mb... Mar 02 11:43:45 for reserving :) Mar 02 11:57:25 anybody knows around the sa1100-lcd backligh ? Mar 02 11:57:33 iPAQ platform h36** Mar 02 11:57:53 how to switch on the back light ? Mar 02 11:58:21 the kernel module is confusing me a bit Mar 02 12:01:28 Is GPE alive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPE Latest release 2.8 / 7 August 2007 <-- 2007 Mar 02 12:01:44 it seems all dead Mar 02 12:01:59 also kernel support is stopped Mar 02 12:02:10 emaillist are dead Mar 02 12:02:59 you about PGE? Mar 02 12:03:03 *GPE Mar 02 12:03:24 GPE ? i can't support it cause i have issue with kernel 2.6 series Mar 02 12:03:36 nothing really working on iPAQ 36** Mar 02 12:05:18 what package provides mount.vfat? Mar 02 12:05:59 dosfstools? Mar 02 12:06:14 booxter: do you can include support of vfat in kernel and use mount? Mar 02 12:06:29 booxter: but what req mount.vfat? Mar 02 12:07:17 ok, OPIE dead, GPE dead... What is the alternative? Mar 02 12:08:00 hrw, hm, do you mean mount -t vfat? Mar 02 12:08:16 fpga: Maybe new Qt Embedded and Qt Extended? Mar 02 12:09:11 I see Qt Extended... and Qtopia - active devel and actual, but license not LGPL? Mar 02 12:09:39 AFAIK it will be LGPL since 4.5 Mar 02 12:09:56 it's regular Qt, or QTE too??? Mar 02 12:10:16 both, I hope ;) Mar 02 12:11:24 Hey, but even if QTE and QTopia is under GPL, I can use them in my commercial applications? And write my apps on top of Qtopia? Mar 02 12:11:32 fpga, QTE too I think Mar 02 12:11:57 fpga, you should gpl your apps if you link them with qt <= 4.4 Mar 02 12:12:07 hmm, Qt Extended will stay GPL: http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/licensing/frequently-asked-questions#does-the-licensing-change Mar 02 12:12:22 pocek, fuck! Mar 02 12:13:03 bad thing... We were going to base our proprietary software framework on qte... Mar 02 12:13:13 but Qt *Embedded* will be LGPL, so it's cool enough for me Mar 02 12:13:39 ow, I get it Mar 02 12:13:48 then we are good with it too :) Mar 02 12:13:50 Can I use Qt Extended/ QTopia under GPL as Desktop and write commercial apps with Qt Embedded? Mar 02 12:14:37 fpga, I think you can. But maybe you should have too versions of qt-embedded lib on your system (speaking correctly) Mar 02 12:14:59 one for GPL stuff from Qtopia, one for LGPL stuff - for your proprietary things :D Mar 02 12:15:54 that's a shame of course, and I'm not 100% at it Mar 02 12:17:46 so, it's _really_ possible and tested, or it's just assumptions??? Mar 02 12:18:02 is it supported in OpenEmbedded and Angstrom? Mar 02 12:18:11 Qt Embedded works for me Mar 02 12:18:57 at least I can run qtdemo on ipaq h2200 Mar 02 12:19:25 fpga, assumptions of course Mar 02 12:19:54 Qt Embedded works ok. Qtopia (QtExtended) too. Mar 02 12:20:25 but these are too different packages, with different licenses (though they have lots of common code) Mar 02 12:20:54 I think noone has done any work on such configuration support ;) Mar 02 12:21:21 And what is Qt Embedded? Mar 02 12:21:36 it's a Qt base library Mar 02 12:21:42 for embedded devices Mar 02 12:21:52 it's included in qtopia release I think Mar 02 12:22:02 it's standalone Mar 02 12:22:19 but I don't know if these too similar pieces have the same license Mar 02 12:22:43 pocek, but qtopia 'provides' qt*e libs Mar 02 12:23:22 I think it's just a bit messy in OE Mar 02 12:23:26 standalone?.. and how it works?.. Qt ext - environment for phones, but embedded?... Mar 02 12:23:51 "bitbake qt-embedded" and you're up & running (mostly) Mar 02 12:25:08 ok, I'll try this at home ;) Is it runs under QEMU? x86? ARM? Mar 02 12:25:11 Qt had too many renames of components... Mar 02 12:25:23 Qt Embedded (qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.3.tar.gz) - core library, will be LGPL, capability-wise basically same as desktop one Mar 02 12:25:23 qt/embedded qtopia qtopiacore qt/extended etc.. Mar 02 12:26:18 Qt Extended (qt-extended-opensource-src-4.4.2.tar.gz) - whole environment, will stay GPL Mar 02 12:26:39 pocek, does qt-extended depends on qt-embedded? Mar 02 12:27:19 I'm also interested in this :) I planning to create device in my company... Mar 02 12:28:05 booxter: I haven't really played with QtEx yet, I guess so Mar 02 12:29:56 For now I'm struggling with getting OE toolchain + QtEm + Eclipse CDT + Qt Eclipse Integration nicely running Mar 02 12:29:57 pocek, it seems that qtopia package includes its own qtopia libraries Mar 02 12:30:54 pocek, we already got a workable toolchain with qtopia things but with some hardcoded stuff in our bitbakes. Mar 02 12:31:20 with 4.5.0_rc1 btw Mar 02 12:31:35 so if you have some questions maybe I can help you with it Mar 02 12:33:23 I cant understand... I read "Qt/Embedded Whitepaper" - what the difference in Extended and Embedded? Why I migh want to buy commercial license for Ext, if I have Emb? Limitations?.. Mar 02 12:33:51 Indeed, it looks like QtEx has its own copy od QtEm in qtopiacore/qt Mar 02 12:34:01 copy of Mar 02 12:34:27 and... ? :) Mar 02 12:34:53 Qtopia is just a little improved of Emb version? Mar 02 12:35:46 QtEx is a whole environment built upon QtEm Mar 02 12:36:26 openmoko uses it as their phone software Mar 02 12:39:57 Can I use QtEmb without QtExt? Mar 02 12:40:21 sure Mar 02 12:40:51 niiiiice :) Mar 02 12:44:34 morning Mar 02 12:50:33 hi thesing Mar 02 12:52:34 hey guys,i don't know if you are aware but bitbake 1.8.12 doesn't build angstrom Mar 02 12:53:25 which target you building? Mar 02 12:53:40 i am testing cx7x0 Mar 02 12:53:54 so, minimal-image? console-image? Mar 02 12:54:07 just chosed a random one to see if I have configured the toolchain correctly Mar 02 12:54:07 I have 1.8.13 - works fine Mar 02 12:54:12 base-image Mar 02 12:54:25 try to update bitbake :) Mar 02 12:54:40 or try minimal-image - for test... :) Mar 02 12:54:51 i am running 8.10 now and run fine Mar 02 12:55:15 this seem also be suggested on angstrom website(or simply it wasn't updated since then :D ) Mar 02 12:55:16 * ant_work rebuilt all tonite with 1.8.13 for c7x0 Mar 02 12:55:41 so should i use 8.13? Mar 02 12:56:00 cd .../oe/bitbake svn update Mar 02 12:56:41 oh,it's in the svn Mar 02 12:56:47 no wonder i wasn't seeing it Mar 02 12:56:51 is it stable? Mar 02 12:57:04 well, the main developers are using it... Mar 02 12:57:12 ok,i'll try it Mar 02 12:57:27 main developers of angstrom or openembedded? Mar 02 12:57:37 christian02, you don't need to install .. just run it from where you download :) Mar 02 12:58:07 exactly, the getting started instruction don't insist enough Mar 02 12:58:28 i am not installing,i am following the wiki Mar 02 12:58:35 good, no bitbake install is needed Mar 02 12:58:43 neither suggested Mar 02 12:59:10 the only step i changed was the bitbake version and i got problems,my usual luck Mar 02 12:59:29 he...immediately hit Mar 02 13:00:38 another thing,I see there is mips support for angstrom and openembedded but i just see some router Mar 02 13:00:59 have anyone tested some mips?I plan to try it on a mips device Mar 02 13:01:15 booxter: There're some minor differences between qt-extended/qtopiacore/qt and qt-embedded, so it might be possible to build QtEx with external Qt and have only one copy lying around :) Assuming GPL software can link LGPL Mar 02 13:01:23 some *WRT firmware is build with OE ... so i suppose it work :) Mar 02 13:01:54 gremlin[it]: really? which ones? Mar 02 13:02:59 so porting to my mips machine is just a matter of adding my drivers and compile?no patching should be required for high level stuff,like window system or else? Mar 02 13:03:18 yep Mar 02 13:03:29 wow cool Mar 02 13:03:58 hrw ... mhh maybe i'm wrong ... i'm playing wuth a wrt and a slug recently so maybe i exchange :( Mar 02 13:04:03 really??? niiiice Mar 02 13:04:17 pocek, maybe. But OE doesn't provide an easy solution as for now :) Mar 02 13:04:35 noone was interested in such a weird configuration before I think :) Mar 02 13:04:47 if the cx7x0 compile smooth,then I'll try adding a new machine conf Mar 02 13:04:56 hope it's easy like it sound :D Mar 02 13:05:50 christian02, mine current device is mips one (stb225 board). It works :) Mar 02 13:06:23 did you have to modify anything to make it work? Mar 02 13:06:45 christian: you could stumble in a couple of strange errors Mar 02 13:07:04 like? Mar 02 13:07:05 christian02, added board specific patches for linux package, added stb225.conf file, that's all Mar 02 13:07:09 due to EXTRA_IMAGEDEPEND Mar 02 13:07:33 I suggest you to build zaurus-updater and sharp-flash-header-c700 before building the images Mar 02 13:07:57 we are inverstigating on the issue (koen already has a solution, but no time...) Mar 02 13:07:59 I think there is a wiki page regarding porting OE to a new device Mar 02 13:08:16 i'm building the zaurus image just to test if my setup is ok Mar 02 13:08:54 apart the (possible) 2 errors above, nothing to signale for console-image, opie-image, x11-image Mar 02 13:09:48 with a fresh-built toolchain Mar 02 13:09:58 m8050 is other working machine etc Mar 02 13:10:13 yes, perhaps there are 100% sane, maybe Mar 02 13:10:18 booxter,yes i read it.It seemed too easy to be true so I was confirming, because I thought it's strange there are so little non ARM machine if it's so easy Mar 02 13:10:29 christian02: if you do mips then do build for st225 so you will not have to build new toolchain ;D Mar 02 13:10:47 christian02: most of OE devs do arm or x86 devel Mar 02 13:10:59 for x86 generic ones are usually enough Mar 02 13:11:12 christian02: mips is rare ;D Mar 02 13:11:48 * ant_work is thinking about TI AR7 builds (Zyxel) Mar 02 13:12:03 yeah,they are almost extinguing Mar 02 13:12:50 I have wrt54gs here and do not want to even try to do OE builds for it Mar 02 13:12:58 haha Mar 02 13:13:00 why? Mar 02 13:13:46 NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 148 tasks of which 0 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. Mar 02 13:13:46 ERROR: '/OE/org.openembedded.stable/packages/gcc/gcc-native_3.4.4.bb' failed Mar 02 13:13:51 why gcc failed? Mar 02 13:14:18 I think there should be some more info above the message Mar 02 13:14:30 you can use pastebin to show us the full log Mar 02 13:15:10 christian02: it lacks good way to unbrick and I do not have a use for it other then its current one Mar 02 13:15:17 oh Mar 02 13:15:17 ERROR: see log in /OE/angstrom-stable//work/i686-linux/gcc-native-3.4.4-r7/temp/log.do_compile.32410 Mar 02 13:15:18 NOTE: Task failed: /OE/angstrom-stable//work/i686-linux/gcc-native-3.4.4-r7/temp/log.do_compile.32410 Mar 02 13:15:18 NOTE: package gcc-native-3.4.4-r7: task do_compile: failed Mar 02 13:15:18 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting Mar 02 13:15:50 let me see the log it say Mar 02 13:17:31 In function 'open', Mar 02 13:17:32 inlined from 'collect_execute' at /OE/angstrom-stable//work/i686-linux/gcc-native-3.4.4-r7/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/collect2.c:1537: Mar 02 13:17:32 /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to '__open_missing_mode' declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments Mar 02 13:17:35 tha's the error Mar 02 13:19:03 ubuntu 8.10? Mar 02 13:19:12 mmm yes,why? Mar 02 13:19:22 you use oe.dev or oe.stable? Mar 02 13:19:30 stable Mar 02 13:19:39 then forget about it and use oe.dev Mar 02 13:19:46 oook Mar 02 13:19:54 stable branch lacks maintainer :( Mar 02 13:19:57 * methril|work nods about oe.dev for Ubuntu 8.10 Mar 02 13:21:02 just need to change BBPATH? Mar 02 13:22:16 i get tons of errors with oe.dev Mar 02 13:22:20 ? Mar 02 13:22:48 need oe.dev metadata so other BBPATH, maybe BBFILES too Mar 02 13:22:53 * hrw -> afk Mar 02 13:24:04 http://pastebin.com/m333796c3 Mar 02 13:26:15 christian02: 1) checkout the right branch 2) use bitbake 1.8.13 Mar 02 13:26:28 anybody with ipaq ? Mar 02 13:26:30 guess it's time to update bitbake :D Mar 02 13:26:34 (h36**) Mar 02 13:27:11 just me i said :) Mar 02 13:28:25 http://code.google.com/p/opkg/source/detail?spec=svn202&r=201 <- wtf is that? Mar 02 13:30:06 besides probably being the reason why I find paths in opkg's .list cut at 99 characters Mar 02 13:31:03 to send a patch, i've to do it through oe-dev ml? or in the bugtracker? Mar 02 13:34:56 same error with latest bitbake Mar 02 13:36:52 methril|work, send to the ml Mar 02 13:37:03 methril|work, patchwork.openembedded.org Mar 02 13:37:24 Crofton|work: thanks Mar 02 13:43:47 christian02: which distro on buildhost? Mar 02 13:46:29 flameman, pong Mar 02 13:46:36 :) Mar 02 13:52:02 you mean the target distro ? Mar 02 13:54:30 Crofton|work: It's beta? I'm having erros adding a bundle Mar 02 13:54:51 hmm Mar 02 13:55:07 I'll need to check with otavio and koen Mar 02 13:55:11 ok Mar 02 13:55:22 ant_work,i had to use 2008 right? Mar 02 13:55:25 i'll send it throug the dev ml for comments and tests? Mar 02 13:55:32 yeah send theough ml Mar 02 13:55:36 it build with 2008 Mar 02 13:55:38 patchwork monitors ml Mar 02 13:55:44 I should have made that clear Mar 02 13:56:02 so you send to ml, and it is automagically collected by patchwork Mar 02 13:57:52 oh!! ok Mar 02 13:57:53 :D Mar 02 13:58:02 sended Mar 02 14:38:11 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * rf32a5e8a24 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/ (5 files): gstreamer: package libs seperately to account for things moving between -good, -bad, -ugly and -base. Mar 02 14:44:28 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r84a3719482 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: bump opkg-target to 202, leave -sdk and -native alone Mar 02 14:46:22 is anyone getting emails from the OE lists? Mar 02 14:47:17 My last one is from more than 24 hours ago Mar 02 14:48:40 i want to sell ipaq h3660 + sleeve, anybody interested ? Mar 02 14:49:29 me Mar 02 14:50:15 i just send one and arrived Mar 02 14:50:53 flameman: 5€ including post costs Mar 02 14:51:21 hrw ? Mar 02 14:51:43 flameman: thats my usual offer D: Mar 02 14:51:43 $5 ? 5 EU ? 5 units ? Mar 02 14:51:51 ahahah Mar 02 14:51:53 :D Mar 02 14:51:53 €=EUR Mar 02 14:52:03 50 Mar 02 14:52:08 anyone able to cross-compile nfs-utils? Mar 02 14:52:16 is the right price ! h3660 + sleeve 1xpcmcia Mar 02 14:52:37 booxter which arch target ? Mar 02 14:52:46 flameman, mips f.e. Mar 02 14:52:58 mips little endian or big endian ? Mar 02 14:53:11 mip1, 3, 32 ... softfloat ? Mar 02 14:53:13 but I think that problem is generic for all situations when BUILD_SYS != HOST_SYS Mar 02 14:53:34 booxter you'd better try crosstool-ng Mar 02 14:53:42 or sysroot, or such a stuff Mar 02 14:53:58 anyway if you need mips1..3...32 bigendian Mar 02 14:54:07 i can native compile for you ! Mar 02 14:54:08 the problem is that OE tries to compile it with 'gcc' not 'mipsel-angstrom-linux-gcc' though I configured it with --host=${HOST_SYS} Mar 02 14:54:13 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * ra3edba29a1 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: Bump EFL version to the latest Mar 02 14:54:14 booxter: let me check for arm Mar 02 14:54:24 flameman, I don't need some external stuff Mar 02 14:54:31 I need OE build Mar 02 14:54:46 for mips ? what is the board ? Mar 02 14:55:04 stb225... Mar 02 14:55:10 anyway i have given you a very good suggest ! try the crosstool-ng ! Mar 02 14:55:37 it has been develop just to avoid us from such a pain in our as with cross compiling issues Mar 02 14:55:42 flameman: use netbsd on your h36xx! thats goooood suggestion Mar 02 14:55:46 flameman, are you a crosstool zealot? spammer? fled from Mars? Mar 02 14:56:20 hrw ? nebsd on ipaq ? ipaq is asm ... anyway i said mips Mar 02 14:56:24 hrw: i sended the qemu update, but i'm preparing new one Mar 02 14:56:26 booxter do as you want Mar 02 14:56:45 flameman, I do Mar 02 14:56:50 booxter i told you that cause i solved my issues just this way Mar 02 14:57:06 booxter anyway i have the rootfs build, you have issues Mar 02 14:57:13 booxter that's ok for me Mar 02 14:57:17 NOTE: package nfs-utils-1.0.6-r13: task do_build: Succeeded Mar 02 14:57:44 thats for arm Mar 02 14:58:06 flameman: this is OpenEmbedded channel, not #crosstool Mar 02 14:58:19 booxter: also built for vortex86sx (486sx) Mar 02 14:58:21 hrw, ok, I'll send a log to the pastebin Mar 02 14:58:25 hrw so ? what is your suggestion for booxter ? Mar 02 14:58:34 hrw hw asked about it Mar 02 14:58:38 flameman, shut up plz Mar 02 14:58:47 booxter regards Mar 02 14:59:03 flameman: he uses OE for much longer then you heard of it. he will manage Mar 02 14:59:26 hrw: ok, regards Mar 02 15:06:17 hrw, hm, what about the latest one - 1.1.2? Mar 02 15:07:54 1.0.6 builds ok for me too but not a new one - 1.1.2 Mar 02 15:08:55 building 1.1.2 now Mar 02 15:17:59 booxter: NOTE: package nfs-utils-1.1.2-3: task do_build: Succeeded Mar 02 15:18:12 weird! Mar 02 15:18:12 booxter: for 486sx Mar 02 15:18:20 hm, and arm one? Mar 02 15:18:38 in progress Mar 02 15:19:06 I get smth like that: http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/400649 Mar 02 15:19:21 it uses 'gcc' for building not 'mipsel-*-gcc' Mar 02 15:19:51 though I have another form of the problem that's what the reason is Mar 02 15:19:54 booxter: /usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--hash-style=gnu' Mar 02 15:19:57 that one? Mar 02 15:20:13 no, I'll paste it now into pastebin. wait... Mar 02 15:20:17 ok Mar 02 15:20:26 NOTE: package nfs-utils-1.1.2-3: task do_build: Succeeded Mar 02 15:20:28 arm Mar 02 15:22:00 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r24d82bbfc5 10openembedded.git/packages/powervr-drivers/ (libgles-omap3/rc.pvr libgles-omap3_3.00.00.06.bb): libgles-omap3: poke sgx to full speed when devmem2 is installed Mar 02 15:23:31 hrw, http://pastebin.com/m72410361 Mar 02 15:24:25 booxter: log.do_configure? Mar 02 15:26:28 hrw, http://pastebin.com/m3f108fd2 Mar 02 15:27:45 no idea now :( Mar 02 15:27:53 it seems that configure detects mipsel- stuff ok Mar 02 15:28:03 but Makefile uses 'gcc' Mar 02 15:28:46 CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc there Mar 02 15:29:09 though CC=mipsel-angstrom-linux-gcc -march=mips32 Mar 02 15:30:55 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r6eb7769166 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump PR for gst-plugins packaging change Mar 02 15:31:24 so EXTRA_OEMAKE = "CC_FOR_BUILD=$CC" maybe? Mar 02 15:32:38 do you know what CC_FOR_BUILD means? I don't Mar 02 15:33:08 but I think that it's a "compiler for stuff that will be invoked while making" Mar 02 15:33:13 its exactly what it sounds like. the cc for the build machine Mar 02 15:33:18 aka BUILD_CC Mar 02 15:33:19 yep Mar 02 15:33:48 so I don't want to reset it with my cross-compiler :) Mar 02 15:33:57 or am I wrong somewhere? Mar 02 15:34:11 it should be BUILD_CC, not CC, if anything Mar 02 15:34:16 afaik anyway Mar 02 15:34:29 gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../support/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -isystem/home/hrw/devel/build/angstrom/tmp-thumb/staging/486sx-angstrom-linux/ Mar 02 15:34:32 usr/include -D_GNU_SOURCE -isystem/home/hrw/devel/build/angstrom/tmp-thumb/staging/486sx-angstrom-linux/usr/include -fexpensive-optimization Mar 02 15:34:36 s -frename-registers -fomit-frame-pointer -O2 -MT testlk-testlk.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/testlk-testlk.Tpo -c -o testlk-testlk.o `test -f 'testlk. Mar 02 15:34:38 c' || echo './'`testlk.c Mar 02 15:34:39 and it built fine Mar 02 15:34:41 ops - that my system. Mar 02 15:34:59 you know, the _PREFIX variables should probably just go away. internally, OpenEmbedded assumes it matches TARGET_SYS, and freaks if it doesnt, anyway, so it can't be safely overridden, which means its pretty much useless Mar 02 15:35:26 hrw, on MIPS: WORDSIZE is defined with _MIPS_SZPTR defined 'in-compiler' Mar 02 15:36:35 that's why my build failed while parsing standard include - because generic 'gcc' did it not mipsel (that defines the needed constant) Mar 02 15:37:36 generic gcc uses toolchain includes for mipsel compiler - bad thing happens ;( Mar 02 15:38:46 booxter: update nfs-utils to 1.1.4 and try? Mar 02 15:39:01 hrw, same problem :) Mar 02 15:39:14 I also tried to port all the 1.0.6 patches to 1.1.4 Mar 02 15:39:23 same problem Mar 02 15:45:26 What failed to build on mipsel? Mar 02 15:45:36 I've been doing a number of builds lately for one Mar 02 15:47:21 Tartarus, nfs-utils-1.1.2 Mar 02 15:47:40 ~curse intel Mar 02 15:47:41 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, intel ! Mar 02 15:48:44 hrw intel arm or intel x86 ? Mar 02 15:49:05 * hrw dreams of a day when recent linux kernel will work fine on intel 855gm chipset again Mar 02 15:49:14 gremlin[it]: x86 Mar 02 15:49:26 especially graphics team Mar 02 15:50:06 it looks like they do not care about anything ERROR: "pgprot_writecombine" [drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko] undefined! Mar 02 15:51:42 Tartarus, can you try nfs-utils for me? Mar 02 15:54:16 hrw: stop using 1980's hardware :-D Mar 02 15:54:48 XorA: its 2005 hardware ;) Mar 02 15:55:00 XorA: and 2009 bug Mar 02 15:55:09 partially also 2008 (but other parts) Mar 02 15:55:26 XorA: 12" are expensive ;( Mar 02 15:56:59 hrw: I cant really talk, newest gadget I have is one of the OE tosa :-) Mar 02 15:57:29 actually I forgot the n810 Mar 02 15:57:39 XorA: imho only now some interesting alternative is coming Mar 02 15:58:31 ant_work: alternative to? Mar 02 15:58:46 tosa Mar 02 15:59:09 * hrw wants 1280x800 12" fast dualcore x86 or one of those new arm ones Mar 02 16:00:09 * chouimat|work sends a macbook to hrw Mar 02 16:00:32 chouimat|work: at price of 3 normal 12"? :) Mar 02 16:00:58 hrw: I paid mine around 1900cad Mar 02 16:01:57 hrw: and the 700cad laptop the company gave me died in less than 6 months :( Mar 02 16:03:47 chouimat|work: I have dell d400 now - use it nearly two years and still works (bought 2 years used) Mar 02 16:04:06 god i love omnioutliner pro Mar 02 16:04:46 hrw: the ibook g4 I bought in 2004 is still working, ok I had to replace the hdd but it's still working Mar 02 16:05:24 but the hp they gave us was a piece of crap, every body here is complaining about this laptop and also the fact we have to run vista on it Mar 02 16:06:55 company laptops... Mar 02 16:07:24 hrw: and since I need linux,windows and osx to be able to do my job ... Mar 02 16:07:24 at my intel time I got nice lenovo t61 with fast cpu, 2gb ram and 1440x900 screen Mar 02 16:07:29 but ony 80gb hdd... Mar 02 16:07:55 my ~/.Virtualbox was 70GB at that time Mar 02 16:08:00 hehe Mar 02 16:08:01 it's like asking boss to give you some corporate condoms:) Mar 02 16:08:23 chouimat|work: I like to do 250GB builds from time to time Mar 02 16:08:34 booxter: those are ok if the company slogan is "Welcome Aboard" Mar 02 16:08:34 ~curse dbus security stuff Mar 02 16:09:07 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, dbus security stuff ! Mar 02 16:14:39 otavio: ping Mar 02 16:14:50 hello? Mar 02 16:14:55 I think you touched psplash ? Mar 02 16:15:04 ant_work: yes; why? Mar 02 16:15:09 we see Mar 02 16:15:14 heh Mar 02 16:15:22 ant_work: did I broke anything? Mar 02 16:15:23 http://magazine.mason.ch:8888/magazine/tosa_kexecboot_log Mar 02 16:15:32 ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/psplash (... Mar 02 16:15:38 not so bad ;-) Mar 02 16:15:51 wow; forgot to add it to preferred version Mar 02 16:16:04 ant_work: can you do that or want me to do it? Mar 02 16:16:20 I cannot right now, in a few hours Mar 02 16:16:28 ant_work: good Mar 02 16:16:43 I've seen this repeated now and remembered :-) Mar 02 16:17:01 ant_work: and sorry by it; it worked fine for our distro and I completely forgot about possible other users :( Mar 02 16:17:04 ant_work: my fault Mar 02 16:17:29 np, is not a major problem :) Mar 02 16:18:46 ant_work: it is quite useful since it makes to any distro much easier to choose the psplash flavor ... but since I do not use angstrom directly and we do have our own distro it worked for me and broke to others :( Mar 02 16:18:53 ant_work: same on me :( Mar 02 16:22:43 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r1c5ed1ecc3 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/python/python-coherence_0.6.2.bb): python-coherence: updated to 0.6.2 Mar 02 16:26:33 chouimat|work: is your 3boot laptop-disk in hybrid MBR/GPT ? Mar 02 16:26:39 yes Mar 02 16:27:03 I had some troubles lately with the partitioning tools Mar 02 16:27:08 ant_work: on the macbook, on the macpro the first hdd is MBR ... the other 5 hdd are gpt Mar 02 16:27:23 ant_work: gparted seems to work ok Mar 02 16:27:32 which version? Mar 02 16:27:45 the one on the most recent ubuntu cd Mar 02 16:28:01 probably based on parted 1.8.8 Mar 02 16:28:16 the one on last Gentoo snapshot just recreates the protective mbr Mar 02 16:28:22 yes, 1.8.8 iirc Mar 02 16:28:45 x86 partitioning suxx Mar 02 16:29:05 so true Mar 02 16:29:34 the strange problem I have, my GPT Base Data Partition is marked as 83 but still the bootloader presents me it as 'Windows FAT32' Mar 02 16:29:45 just cosmethic issue Mar 02 16:30:02 bootloader = UltraBoot Mar 02 16:30:06 anybody? Mar 02 16:30:50 (Linux and Windows share the same GUID for data partitions) Mar 02 16:33:29 ultraboot? Mar 02 16:33:37 strange is, the label of the GPT partition formatted as ntfs (07) is read and presented in the menu, the Linux label not Mar 02 16:37:44 who broke bluez4 then Mar 02 16:40:46 It was probably justifiable breakage; I think I managed to get a successful build of the entire feeds from the tip of the dev branch just the other day, and That Will Not Do(tm)! Mar 02 16:40:48 :P Mar 02 16:41:14 this is complete compile fail Mar 02 16:44:09 :( Then it must have been a recent commit, because I just built the feeds yesterday: bluez4-4.30-r0 built ok. Mar 02 16:47:55 mwester: it got bumped to 4.31 sometime since then then Mar 02 16:55:39 03Graeme Gregory  07org.openembedded.dev * r7b0e17165c 10openembedded.git/packages/bluez/bluez4_4.31.bb: Mar 02 16:55:39 bluez4_4.31.bb : looks like removal of usb patch was dropped at sometime Mar 02 16:55:39 causes a compile fail. Mar 02 17:02:20 bbl Mar 02 17:12:07 03Angus Ainslie  07fso/milestone5.5 * r57fcbdb34f 10openembedded.git/packages/bluez/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Mar 02 17:12:07 Revert "bluez4: add compile patch fixing some usb declaration mismatch" Mar 02 17:12:07 This reverts commit b6b5bcb9c69e30ca9242e009e80ed4e7fb07e82f. Mar 02 17:12:07 This is not required on my buildhost. Seems to depend on host environment. Mar 02 17:12:12 03Koen Kooi  07fso/milestone5.5 * r7bb66805a1 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/bluez/bluez4_4.30.bb): bluez4: update to 4.31 Mar 02 17:12:14 03Graeme Gregory  07fso/milestone5.5 * r2cc213a671 10openembedded.git/packages/bluez/bluez4_4.31.bb: Mar 02 17:12:15 bluez4_4.31.bb : looks like removal of usb patch was dropped at sometime Mar 02 17:12:17 causes a compile fail. Mar 02 17:16:25 ERROR: Multiple .bb files are due to be built which each provide virtual/psplash (/home/hrw/devel/build/bot/homeQuad/angstrom_incremental_build/build/packages/psplash/psplash-angstrom_svn.bb /home/hrw/devel/build/bot/homeQuad/angstrom_incremental_build/build/packages/psplash/psplash_svn.bb). Mar 02 17:16:31 ideas? Mar 02 17:17:05 * * OE Bug 5048 has been created by daniel.faulkner(AT)boltblue.com Mar 02 17:17:07 * * Handhelds.org kernel fails to compile for rx3000 Mar 02 17:17:09 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5048 Mar 02 17:17:10 Hmm Mar 02 17:17:21 hrw there was someone yesterday or saturday with this as well, no idea if something was found out, but maybe the log will tell, also there is acommit on psplash in the log from thu or so Mar 02 17:17:32 With ipkg, does that have a problem with multiple readers on file uris, like debs do? Mar 02 17:17:37 ah.. right Mar 02 17:17:56 Trying to think if splitting image.bbclass do_rootfs into download packages and everything else would help with BB_NUMBER_THREADS >=1 Mar 02 17:18:00 for anyone else, that is Mar 02 17:18:25 * eFfeM has no knowledge of psplash, but just acts as a channel bot :-) Mar 02 17:34:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07fso/milestone5.5 * re9d325499c 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/elementary_svn.bb: elementary: fix QA in packaging and submit necessary path to edje compiler Mar 02 17:34:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07fso/milestone5.5 * rf6e387344a 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/elementary_svn.bb: elementary: merge Mar 02 17:34:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07fso/milestone5.5 * rbae36cdc61 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/elementary_svn.bb: elementary: and back again Mar 02 17:43:07 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * r6be41f1374 10openembedded.git/packages/mc/ (7 files in 2 dirs): mc-4.6.2: More fixes: cursor on tab, UTF-8 regexp, ftpfs, Esc(. Mar 02 17:46:40 anybody knows why ml bouncer is so slow? Mar 02 17:46:57 03Carsten Haitzler (Raster  07fso/milestone5.5 * r2c01c0533a 10openembedded.git/packages/efl1/ecore.inc: Mar 02 17:46:57 efl: update efl and fix ecore package to not have dfb patch anymore - obsolete. Mar 02 17:46:57 Signed-off-by: Koen Kooi Mar 02 17:46:57 This is half of Koen's patch. We've already bumped to a newer version of EFL Mar 02 18:16:59 03Leon Woestenberg  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r29387a6668 10openembedded.git/packages/rt-tests/rt-tests_0.21.bb: rt-tests: Moved from 0.21 to 0.28. Mar 02 18:17:00 03Cliff Brake  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r68e1ea7aed 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:00 03Cliff Brake  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rd512927cbf 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:01 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * redf6af8da8 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Use pidgin version 2.5.3 Mar 02 18:17:04 03Cliff Brake  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rcd0a56bb41 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add checksum for pengutronix canutils Mar 02 18:17:07 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rf6c034ed91 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:12 03Cliff Brake  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rab066eb3b7 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:15 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r8c2955ce84 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:18 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r36d3e3dfc0 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:23 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r8f20816b25 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:26 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r0773447006 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:31 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rc08753e465 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:36 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r98238944c7 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: add fakeroot 1.12.1 Mar 02 18:17:39 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r170188bce7 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Mar 02 18:17:44 checksums: Remove spurious control characters in ++DFB-0.9.25.tar.gz url Mar 02 18:17:46 * This led to 'NOTE: Creating the CheckSum parser failed' but the build Mar 02 18:17:48 continues without checking for the checksums. Ideally it should have Mar 02 18:17:50 errored if OE_STRICT_CHECKSUMS was set. But I will leave that for Mar 02 18:17:52 other day. Mar 02 18:17:54 03Cliff Brake  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rcdbe198009 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:17:59 03Theodore A. Roth  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r54f42088e2 10openembedded.git/docs/usermanual/chapters/getting_oe.xml: Mar 02 18:18:04 getting_oe.xml: Update documentation. Mar 02 18:18:06 * New section about directory structure. Mar 02 18:18:08 * Update 'Getting BitBake' section. Mar 02 18:18:10 Resubmitted against .dev instead of .documentation. Mar 02 18:18:18 Signed-off-by: Theodore A. Roth Mar 02 18:18:20 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r5f635c671b 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:18:23 03Theodore A. Roth  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * ra8d2a6706e 10openembedded.git/docs/usermanual/chapters/getting_oe.xml: Mar 02 18:18:26 getting_oe.xml: Update getting openembedded section. Mar 02 18:18:30 Resubmitted against .dev branch instead of .documentation. Mar 02 18:18:32 getting_oe.xml: Update getting openembedded section. Mar 02 18:18:36 Signed-off-by: Theodore A. Roth Mar 02 18:18:38 (58 lines omitted) Mar 02 18:18:40 03Otavio Salvador  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * ra534291969 10openembedded.git/conf/bitbake.conf: conf/bitbake.conf: use --no-check-certificate to avoid errors when wgetting from https Mar 02 18:18:49 03Stanislav Brabec  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r50e689eec4 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/mc/mc.inc): mc: Added checksum, removed obsolete line in mc.inc. Mar 02 18:18:52 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rf78d20273b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: opkg*: bump to r201 as per RFC on oe-devel ml Mar 02 18:18:57 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r2505a09c7d 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/ (4 files): gstreamer-ti + depends: bump PR for omap3evm kernel change Mar 02 18:19:02 03andrea  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * re6628e7482 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/include/kexecboot.inc: initramfs-kexecboot-image: get rid of all binaries...be small! Mar 02 18:19:05 03Otavio Salvador  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r595363d34b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: toscoterm: bump sane srcrev Mar 02 18:19:14 03Andrea Adami  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r77dd06f8b7 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Mar 02 18:19:17 linux-rp_2.6.26: build libertas wifi modules for supported Zaurus Mar 02 18:19:21 - bump PR Mar 02 18:19:23 03Lukas Gorris  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r9de187ca4e 10openembedded.git/: Merge branch 'org.openembedded.dev' of git@git.openembedded.net:openembedded into org.openembedded.dev Mar 02 18:19:28 03Andrea Adami  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r513d94442b 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Mar 02 18:19:31 initramfs-kexecboot-image: clean image-specific stuff right here Mar 02 18:19:33 - revert last commit Mar 02 18:19:35 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rbe8f0f5b8f 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump to r127 Mar 02 18:19:42 03mwester  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * ra242647043 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-slugos-versions.inc: SlugOS: set preferred version for gstreamer as well Mar 02 18:19:47 03Steffen Sledz  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r8b18fb0503 10openembedded.git/packages/neon/neon_0.25.5.bb: neon: use gnutls-2.patch to fix the building with newer gnutls releases Mar 02 18:19:52 03Lukas Gorris  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r0d0014b324 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx_git.bb: linux-msm7xxxx: update SRCREV and SRCURI, don't install the upstream defconfigs in favor of Xfbdev compatibility Mar 02 18:19:56 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r84a3719482 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: bump opkg-target to 202, leave -sdk and -native alone Mar 02 18:20:01 03Lukas Gorris  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r0a900df05b 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-msm7xxxx/ (7 files in 7 dirs): linux-msm7xxxx upadte defconfigs Mar 02 18:20:04 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rf32a5e8a24 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/ (5 files): gstreamer: package libs seperately to account for things moving between -good, -bad, -ugly and -base. Mar 02 18:20:08 03woglinde  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rcf7e4c7dbd 10openembedded.git/packages/update-alternatives/ (3 files in 2 dirs): update-alternatives: update to newer version of dpkg Mar 02 18:20:13 03Otavio Salvador  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rd433cd4c7a 10openembedded.git/packages/ica/ica-bin_10.6.bb: ica-bin (10.6): use rpm2cpio.pl since rpm2cpio doesn't exist anymore Mar 02 18:20:16 03mwester  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rbb5487c761 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/slugos.inc: SlugOS: set version on dev branch to 5.4-alpha now Mar 02 18:20:19 03Khem Raj  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r6641422f8e 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/rx1950.conf: rx1950.conf: Add missing quote in MACHINE_FEATURES Mar 02 18:20:24 03Lukas Gorris  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * rf2a7ae7342 10openembedded.git/conf/machine/include/htc-msm7.inc: linux-msm7xxxx don't create .cpio.gz images Mar 02 18:20:27 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r6eb7769166 10openembedded.git/packages/dsplink/gstreamer-ti_svn.bb: gstreamer-ti: bump PR for gst-plugins packaging change Mar 02 18:20:32 03Koen Kooi  07mickey/org.openembedded.dev * r24d82bbfc5 10openembedded.git/packages/powervr-drivers/ (libgles-omap3/rc.pvr libgles-omap3_3.00.00.06.bb): libgles-omap3: poke sgx to full speed when devmem2 is installed Mar 02 18:20:38 (28 lines omitted) Mar 02 18:26:01 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r5214ea90fa 10openembedded.git/packages/pkgconfig/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Mar 02 18:26:01 pkgconfig[-native]: 0.23 is the new default one Mar 02 18:26:01 remove 0.15 and 0.22 Mar 02 18:26:02 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * rd6894a7ffd 10openembedded.git/packages/vala/vala.inc: vala: touch gobject.vala.stamp before compiling; apparantly there's a timeglitch in the tarball. Closes OE Mar 02 18:26:05 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r8791e4ebac 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal.conf: use newer glibc and gcc Mar 02 18:26:08 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * reb1b5e3f91 10openembedded.git/ (9 files in 3 dirs): linux-openmoko-devel: bump to latest andy-tracking; remove patches applied upstream Mar 02 18:26:11 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r898589d824 10openembedded.git/packages/gnome/ (16 files in 7 dirs): Mar 02 18:26:14 gnome-vfs 2.22.0: fix *.a and *.la packaging Mar 02 18:26:16 remove old versions Mar 02 18:26:18 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * rd9bd245d15 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: Use pidgin version 2.5.3 Mar 02 18:26:23 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r9b1380c48b 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc: sane-srcdates.inc: remove first bunch of SRCDATES for cvs packages that are no longer existing Mar 02 18:26:33 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * ra53bdf1edf 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: Mar 02 18:26:36 checksums: Remove spurious control characters in ++DFB-0.9.25.tar.gz url Mar 02 18:26:38 * This led to 'NOTE: Creating the CheckSum parser failed' but the build Mar 02 18:26:40 continues without checking for the checksums. Ideally it should have Mar 02 18:26:42 errored if OE_STRICT_CHECKSUMS was set. But I will leave that for Mar 02 18:26:44 other day. Mar 02 18:26:46 03Dmitry 'MAD' Artamonow  07org.openembedded.dev * rfa76888ead 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Mar 02 18:26:51 xdiskusage: xdiskusage shows disk space usage information, it can produce a PostScript version of the display. Mar 02 18:26:53 Signed-off-by: Khem Raj Mar 02 18:26:55 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r43fa438235 10openembedded.git/packages/ncurses/ (ncurses.inc ncurses_5.4.bb): ncurses: modernize and fix packaging problems Mar 02 18:27:06 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r40da08b6db 10openembedded.git/ (3 files in 3 dirs): frameworkd-devel: use mickey/ogsmd-new-timeout branch for now Mar 02 18:27:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * rd9bc47972d 10openembedded.git/packages/automake/ (17 files in 5 dirs): Mar 02 18:27:12 automake: update to 1.10.2 Mar 02 18:27:14 remove older ones Mar 02 18:27:18 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r13ac0a793a 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc: sane-srcrevs: bump linux-openmoko-2.6.28 Mar 02 18:27:21 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r4ca003cb04 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (16 files in 2 dirs): linux-openmoko-2.6.28: remove patches that have been applied upstream Mar 02 18:27:28 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r9b4c27d165 10openembedded.git/ (conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc packages/qi/qi.inc): qi: enable build debug output again and bump to latest version Mar 02 18:27:36 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r71e3268280 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/sane-toolchain.inc: sane-toolchain.inc: fix typo in binutils version Mar 02 18:27:41 03Leon Woestenberg  07org.openembedded.dev * rcf89155284 10openembedded.git/packages/rt-tests/rt-tests_0.21.bb: rt-tests: Moved from 0.21 to 0.28. Mar 02 18:27:44 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r587bd013e9 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: add fakeroot 1.12.1 Mar 02 18:27:47 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r9bf9e57a9c 10openembedded.git/packages/cdrtools/cdrtools-native_2.01.bb: cdrtools-native: fixed LICENSE Mar 02 18:27:52 03Koen Kooi  07org.openembedded.dev * r4c95f1db4b 10openembedded.git/packages/automake/automake-1.10/path_prog_fixes.patch: Mar 02 18:27:57 automake: rediff path_prog_fixes for 1.10 Mar 02 18:27:59 * people should really test things before making it a global default. 'sane default' implies that at least do_patch succeeds Mar 02 18:28:02 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * r80a378e8a7 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums: Add base-passwd checksum Mar 02 18:28:07 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.dev * rb295242c18 10openembedded.git/ (5 files in 3 dirs): SlugOS: reinstate fakeroot 1.9.6 and set as the PREFERRED_VERSION Mar 02 18:28:10 03Jeremy Lainé  07org.openembedded.dev * rf1d4b0b58a 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-2.6.27: improve boc01 EEPROM support Mar 02 18:28:13 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * rbe7e9193df 10openembedded.git/ (conf/checksums.ini packages/mc/mc.inc): mc: Added checksum, removed obsolete line in mc.inc. Mar 02 18:28:18 03Khem Raj  07org.openembedded.dev * r16fb36ea23 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: Add checksums for fakeroot_1.12.1.tar.gz and netbase-4.21.tar.gz Mar 02 18:28:21 03Stanislav Brabec  07org.openembedded.dev * r9e49fd17ab 10openembedded.git/packages/mc/ (5 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Mar 02 18:28:26 mc-4.6.2: Miscelaneous fixes: Mar 02 18:28:28 (87 lines omitted) Mar 02 18:30:34 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * rbe3462b502 10openembedded.git/conf/checksums.ini: checksums.ini: add more checksums from branch Mar 02 18:30:35 *phew* Mar 02 18:30:36 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * rbf2fe8b5bd 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/minimal.conf: minimal.conf: don't build ext2fs; remove irda; use packaged staging Mar 02 18:30:36 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r9907ba027d 10openembedded.git/packages/freesmartphone/fso-abyss_git.bb: fso-abyss: ship datadir Mar 02 18:30:37 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r427bd0cb2f 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-om-2008-versions.inc: preferred-om-2008.inc: catch up with some versions Mar 02 18:33:15 Wow, did a meeting just get out? Or is there a time scheduled for commits?!?! Mar 02 18:33:44 nah, that were just artefacts of merges / rebasings Mar 02 18:33:59 those seem to be old backlogged commits Mar 02 18:34:01 unfortunately commits show up for every branch Mar 02 18:34:17 we should think about muting everything non-canon Mar 02 18:34:36 or having a ref mirror in the push bot Mar 02 18:34:39 err Mar 02 18:34:41 cache, that is Mar 02 18:38:19 mickeyl: any ideas why ml bouncer is so slow? sometimes it takes hours to see own email... Mar 02 18:38:38 linuxtogo.org is on a seriously underpowered host Mar 02 18:39:13 and it runs some exim4 which no one can maintain Mar 02 18:39:18 which takes tons of resources Mar 02 18:39:50 does it do any spam checks? Mar 02 18:40:18 yes Mar 02 18:41:09 any other services on that machine? Mar 02 18:41:19 what kind of equipment is that? Mar 02 18:43:22 yes, some of other services Mar 02 18:43:27 dunno offhand Mar 02 18:43:29 ask florian Mar 02 18:44:09 * Jay7 can maintain exim4 :) Mar 02 18:45:27 Jay7: postfix rules :) Mar 02 18:45:40 denix: it depends :) Mar 02 18:47:25 Jay7: agree. I used to be a sendmail guy for quite some time... Mar 02 18:48:13 denix: I primarily using exim now.. Mar 02 18:58:25 NOTE: Nothing PROVIDES 'openezx-kernel', NOTE: Target 'openezx-kernel' is unbuildable, removing... Mar 02 18:59:17 ERROR: '['/OE/packages/ezx/ezx-gen-blob_svn.bb']' RDEPENDS/RRECOMMENDS or otherwise requires the runtime entity 'ezx-gen-blob' but it wasn't found in any PACKAGE or RPROVIDES variables of any buildable targets. Mar 02 18:59:48 old OE? Mar 02 19:00:29 about 2 hours old Mar 02 19:00:38 ah Mar 02 19:00:45 oh yes Mar 02 19:00:51 ezx-gen-blob refers to the old kernel Mar 02 19:00:54 * mickeyl fixes Mar 02 19:01:01 thanks Mar 02 19:01:29 ~curse linux-openmoko Mar 02 19:02:19 yo XorA Mar 02 19:03:29 hey mickeyl Mar 02 19:03:41 XorA: what are you up to these days? Mar 02 19:03:47 everything ok so far? Mar 02 19:04:14 mickeyl: unemployed at the moment Mar 02 19:04:54 mickeyl: trying to make gta02 into something vaguely interesting, but the kernel is busted and is beyond my kernel fixing foo :-( Mar 02 19:06:10 why's it busted? Mar 02 19:06:36 mickeyl: modules dont work Mar 02 19:06:45 mickeyl: must be a toolchain issue Mar 02 19:06:47 the thumb thing? Mar 02 19:06:57 i noticed things go havoc with binutils 2.19 Mar 02 19:06:58 mickeyl: well I turned off thumb and its still broke Mar 02 19:07:02 eeks Mar 02 19:07:05 well Mar 02 19:07:07 it does not work its compiler :) Mar 02 19:07:12 the one shipped w/ ms5.1 is ok Mar 02 19:07:33 khem: got a fix? Mar 02 19:07:47 heh tell me the problme Mar 02 19:08:04 mickeyl: binutils 2.19 is plane broken Mar 02 19:08:12 bummer Mar 02 19:08:12 XorA: did you try 2.19.1 Mar 02 19:08:19 always the same stuff Mar 02 19:08:19 every new binutils is broken Mar 02 19:08:42 khem: no, we abadondoned 2.19 pretty quick when we realised it had forgotten how to operate Mar 02 19:08:45 mickeyl: hmm in what way Mar 02 19:08:51 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r6ce01c5dd3 10openembedded.git/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ezx-gen-blob: fix kernel dependency Mar 02 19:09:08 in the way that everyone curses and nothing works Mar 02 19:09:18 i've seen that 10 times in the past couple of years Mar 02 19:09:26 mickeyl: I am building OE with 2.19.1 and it boots ok for me. Off late I have not tried a lot of stress testing Mar 02 19:09:36 khem: do modules load? Mar 02 19:09:42 did you commit 2.19.1? Mar 02 19:09:49 mickeyl: yes I did Mar 02 19:09:49 khem: 2.19 is totally broken for thumb interworking Mar 02 19:09:57 XorA: thumb hmm Mar 02 19:10:10 khem: what's your latest eglibc vs. glibc assassment? Mar 02 19:10:14 a) is there a benefit? Mar 02 19:10:15 XorA: yeah the long veneers Mar 02 19:10:19 b) what are the gotchas? Mar 02 19:10:33 khem: you got a Freerunner? Mar 02 19:10:37 mickeyl: eglibc is great for embedded systesm Mar 02 19:10:51 still, I have a patch in cooking to build locale in cross env Mar 02 19:11:05 then I do not need qemu-native fancy thing naymore Mar 02 19:11:16 XorA: I have a osk Mar 02 19:11:18 thats all Mar 02 19:11:46 mickeyl: Once I get time to finish the cross locale then other think would be the config parts Mar 02 19:11:56 like uclibc we can enable/disable features Mar 02 19:12:05 sounds good Mar 02 19:12:09 hey mickeyl Mar 02 19:12:18 plus it carries all the cruft you need to compile on non desktop systems Mar 02 19:12:23 like arm mips etc. Mar 02 19:12:26 See my email re minimal & what targets? Mar 02 19:12:54 anybody with h5500 & OE ? Mar 02 19:13:49 mickeyl: Gotchas would be that it does not spin release tarballs Mar 02 19:14:01 dinner time Mar 02 19:14:13 other than that I dont see anything. Mar 02 19:14:22 It still sucks in changes from glibc verbatim Mar 02 19:14:45 Tartarus: yeah, thanks. i gues most stuff in minimal should be ok now. angstrom gave us an incredible kickstart, i bascally stole almost everything and recategorized. It's now no longer so minimal, but should work good in all targets that angstrom supported. For which targets can you try builds? Mar 02 19:15:11 mickeyl: will minimal boot too ? Mar 02 19:15:16 khem: i see. so we wait a bit more and then we can give it a whirl in minimal Mar 02 19:15:32 mickeyl: yeah. that would be good. Mar 02 19:15:49 mickeyl: yeah and its latest. :) Mar 02 19:16:00 2.9 release sucked in Mar 02 19:16:17 mickeyl, well, I've got a beagleboard and a db1200 and maybe soon an mpc8321 or whatever that ref board is Mar 02 19:16:32 omap3evm's around too I think Mar 02 19:16:43 Tartarus: hmm I will keep in mind to bother you sometimes for ppc :) Mar 02 19:16:51 But what final targets are hoped to be kept working? Mar 02 19:17:27 I think as many as possible Mar 02 19:17:34 yeah Mar 02 19:17:45 my goal would be that minimal has the same device support as angstrom Mar 02 19:17:54 but with less policy decisions Mar 02 19:17:58 Sorry, what I mean is bitbake tagets Mar 02 19:18:06 meta-toolchain-what? what-image? Mar 02 19:18:11 ah, good question Mar 02 19:18:46 i love console images Mar 02 19:18:46 fso-console-image, for instance Mar 02 19:18:46 fso-illume-image for X11 Mar 02 19:19:04 we need to revisit our images and tasks anyways Mar 02 19:19:07 too much fat, too much duplication Mar 02 19:19:12 it's seriously time for a new OE meeting Mar 02 19:19:17 *shrug* Mar 02 19:19:20 Any SDK targets? Mar 02 19:19:27 that would be helpful Mar 02 19:19:31 Good day all! I'm having a link error when trying to build the beagleboard-demo-image target of OpenEmbedded. It seems that the shared-mime-info-native-0.51-r0 package can't find the gzopen64 symbol in libxml2. However, when I inspect the staging package with 'nm' it does appear to be there. Has anyone encountered this before? Mar 02 19:19:34 re Mar 02 19:19:37 although i have not much experience with the sdk targets Mar 02 19:19:37 yo hrw Mar 02 19:19:40 OK, that's one of the things I care about, so.. :) Mar 02 19:19:46 good! :) Mar 02 19:20:09 I guess we'll start with meta-toolchain-sbox Mar 02 19:20:31 we need console-image, x11-just-go-as-root-user-image, really-minimal-just-boot-to-shell-image Mar 02 19:20:51 hrw, yeah Mar 02 19:21:00 some stuff like IMAGE_FEATURES in poky could be nice but less features Mar 02 19:21:05 It's hard to do the last one tho, without a duplicated busybox Mar 02 19:21:15 I've got one internally that's just enough to poke around the system Mar 02 19:21:16 things like debug, on-device-sdk etc Mar 02 19:21:18 and fit on anything Mar 02 19:22:08 Tartarus: 'fit on anything'? Mar 02 19:22:31 Yes, it's just busybox, with just enough features turned on to be semi usable Mar 02 19:22:43 so the binary stuff is only like 800kb Mar 02 19:23:15 good idea Mar 02 19:23:17 I like it Mar 02 19:23:31 great for rescue Mar 02 19:23:40 It just requires a duplicate busybox recipe so i can still make a full image too Mar 02 19:23:45 ie sysvinit and so on Mar 02 19:24:27 no.. it just need /linuxrc properly set ;D Mar 02 19:24:35 iirc Mar 02 19:24:51 no sysvinit in use etc Mar 02 19:24:53 No, I want busybox for other stuff on a real image Mar 02 19:24:57 sure Mar 02 19:24:58 :) Mar 02 19:25:07 So we build 2 different busyboxes Mar 02 19:25:17 ok, I was thinking of doing it with one Mar 02 19:25:19 Tartarus: 800k including kernel and libc ? Mar 02 19:25:26 kernel no Mar 02 19:25:34 busybox is static so no libc on the rootfs Mar 02 19:25:40 khem: no - just rootfs without kernel Mar 02 19:25:53 and whole rootfs is /bin/busybox and lot of symlinks to it Mar 02 19:25:59 right Mar 02 19:26:19 busybox linked with glibc ? Mar 02 19:26:35 eglibc, but yes :) Mar 02 19:26:49 heh Tartarus good work :) Mar 02 19:27:52 glibc, eglibc, uclibc... does it really matter in such rootfs? Mar 02 19:28:00 sure Mar 02 19:28:09 I think that 'let the smallest win' apply Mar 02 19:28:11 eglibc/glibc may not Mar 02 19:28:16 but uclibc will Mar 02 19:28:30 its smaller so you should have less than 800k Mar 02 19:28:39 klibc is probably too limited... Mar 02 19:28:45 That's just a last time i looked a while ago figure:) Mar 02 19:28:51 but it was small Mar 02 19:29:04 And also, I didn't want to have to build a dozen other extra things for it Mar 02 19:29:17 Just add another package to my list of "build all of this before you call it a day" task Mar 02 19:29:47 I don't _think_ you can get away with bitbaking one target that has sub-deps on both say eglibc and uclibc Mar 02 19:29:59 * khem sees that nfs-utils-1.1.2 really does not build on mipsel Mar 02 19:30:22 Tartarus: prolly not Mar 02 19:32:03 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r9fbeb3968e 10openembedded.git/conf/bitbake.conf: bitbake.conf: add GNOME_GIT Mar 02 19:32:09 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r8784f2ff69 10openembedded.git/conf/bitbake.conf: bitbake.conf: sort download locations lexically Mar 02 19:37:24 bitbake/lib/bb/COW.py:29: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated Mar 02 19:37:34 this is with python 2.6 Mar 02 19:39:40 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox.release_25 * r9a6908c57e 10openembedded.git/packages/enigma2/ (enigma2-plugins.bb enigma2-skins.bb enigma2.bb): enigma2-*: bump srcdates Mar 02 19:39:41 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox.release_25 * r5b46f53663 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugin-dvbmediasink.bb: gst-plugin-dvbmediasink: bump version to fix premature EOS Mar 02 19:39:53 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r417636b104 10openembedded.git/packages/gstreamer/gst-plugin-dvbmediasink.bb: gst-plugin-dvbmediasink: bump version to fix premature EOS Mar 02 19:47:09 yes Mar 02 19:47:15 set is now an intrinsic datatype Mar 02 19:47:19 no longer a module Mar 02 19:48:15 we need to change it Mar 02 19:49:32 yep Mar 02 19:49:36 hmm, ok, now I'm confused Mar 02 19:50:07 i built a kernel with binutils 2.18.50.0.5 Mar 02 19:50:10 err, 0.7 Mar 02 19:50:19 and still get the "relocation 40" error Mar 02 19:50:34 heh dont use those x.x.x.x.x releases Mar 02 19:50:34 so is it broken in 2.6.29 rather than our binutils? Mar 02 19:50:44 should i try plain 2.18? Mar 02 19:50:53 it could be that kernel exposed a latent bug Mar 02 19:51:03 yes please Mar 02 19:51:08 or 2.19 Mar 02 19:51:13 x.x.x is ok Mar 02 19:53:06 we should disable nfs-utils-1.1.2 Mar 02 19:53:14 they are not being built correctly Mar 02 19:54:26 ATM they are are being picked bt default Mar 02 19:54:38 a general problem w/ it? Mar 02 19:54:41 or mipsel? Mar 02 19:54:45 general Mar 02 19:55:15 oh well native gcc just happens to accept arm headers Mar 02 19:55:24 so it builds there Mar 02 19:55:26 ha Mar 02 19:55:29 time to FIX IT Mar 02 19:55:31 but if it is correct I dont know Mar 02 19:56:38 03Frans Meulenbroeks  07org.openembedded.dev * r1d1c182fca 10openembedded.git/contrib/angstrom/build-feeds.sh: angstrom/build-feeds.sh: fixed package name: w3cat -> w3cam Mar 02 20:01:14 why do we muck with -isystem Mar 02 20:03:09 Because we don't relocate right :) I think anyhow Mar 02 20:03:40 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r6e1ed058a9 10openembedded.git/packages/enigma2/ (enigma2-plugins.bb enigma2-skins.bb enigma2.bb): enigma2: push SRCDATE for SoftwareManager dependency Mar 02 20:06:00 SDK_CFLAGS="-isystem/scratch/oe/build/eglibc/tmp-db1200/staging/i686-linux/usr/include -isystem/scratch/oe/build/eglibc/tmp-db1200/staging/mipsel-angstrom-linux/usr/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -Os" Mar 02 20:06:08 this is funny Mar 02 20:06:32 less so when you're doing mingw sdk targets Mar 02 20:07:01 its easier to use sysroot that what we have it here Mar 02 20:07:07 it needs fixes for sure Mar 02 20:07:23 where's the breakage? Mar 02 20:07:33 iow, what's not building due to that? Mar 02 20:07:56 so far I *think* its using build_cc and passing target_cflags Mar 02 20:07:57 to it Mar 02 20:08:10 build_cc should use build_cflags Mar 02 20:08:27 what package is failing from this? Mar 02 20:08:39 nfs-utils Mar 02 20:08:46 due to SDK_CFLAGS? Mar 02 20:09:00 no but that was interesting thing I saw Mar 02 20:09:07 its not using SDK_FLAGS Mar 02 20:09:10 Yeah, it's funky Mar 02 20:09:17 And somewhat fragile Mar 02 20:09:26 I believe you Mar 02 20:09:32 So if you do anything, make sure canadian-sdk and meta-toolchain both still build Mar 02 20:09:35 :) Mar 02 20:09:42 its not done in right way and we have added a lot of cruft on top Mar 02 20:10:01 At the high level, I think RP and I agree with you there Mar 02 20:10:25 If I had time I would have done it differently Mar 02 20:11:03 Yeah, a condition on getting it in now is that we're going to rework all the SDK stuff sometime Mar 02 20:11:07 we should separate toolchain from usespace and have a SDK kind of build always Mar 02 20:11:13 It just requires having some "free" time for it Mar 02 20:11:16 and install it in staging Mar 02 20:11:20 khem, agreed. Mar 02 20:11:28 yeah Mar 02 20:11:45 as an SDK user, it'd be nice to know the toolchain i'm distributing there has been tested in building the rest of the target stuff Mar 02 20:12:08 and taking a gcc build or two out of the overall build will make everyone happy Mar 02 20:12:11 yes OE will be the first user of SDK Mar 02 20:12:13 itself Mar 02 20:12:23 yeah Mar 02 20:12:31 I have always thought of doing so. Mar 02 20:12:44 in my homegrown env it works great Mar 02 20:16:01 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r4c2025b2da 10openembedded.git/ (conf/machine/om-gta03.conf packages/linux/linux-openmoko.inc): linux-openmoko.inc: Openmoko's GTA03 device got a new name Mar 02 20:16:21 mickeyl: and the name is? Mar 02 20:18:00 3D7K Mar 02 20:18:22 (no, i have no idea what the means) Mar 02 20:18:58 can anyone recommend a good site for arm boards and touchscreens ? Mar 02 20:20:12 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Structure/mmdb/mmdbsrv.cgi?uid=65428 Mar 02 20:22:33 see the pub id Mar 02 20:26:16 Crofton|work: wow thats far fetched Mar 02 20:27:03 :) google is not always correct Mar 02 20:48:46 kergoth: alive? Mar 02 20:49:13 somewhat, in a meeting... will be stuck in meetings for another 3-4 hours :) Mar 02 20:49:14 kergoth: do you have idea how to make tslib use separate pointercal data for each ts? Mar 02 20:49:14 whats up? Mar 02 20:50:37 Bug Labs device can use 2 lcd+ts at same time. good that they are same model so same calibration data - but how it works if different ts in one device.. Mar 02 20:56:03 well, i'm pretty sure there's an ENV var for the pointercal file Mar 02 20:56:29 might be sufficient Mar 02 20:59:35 thx Mar 02 21:03:09 np. let me know if you have any trouble with it. tslib doesn't get much modification wise really, in maintenance mode. i still have a few patches to apply from the list and get another stable release out, though Mar 02 21:09:30 kergoth: as I said - both modules works fine with one calibration data so far Mar 02 21:09:45 ah, gotcha Mar 02 21:16:27 I have modified somewhere the openembedded/packages directory. doing git diff I can see some of those modifications, but there are, maybe, some files inside not versioned, maybe I have to fetch them again? how? Mar 02 21:16:50 maybe it is a stupid question... Mar 02 21:17:09 ping mickey|bbl Mar 02 21:18:16 recalcati_oe: git status will show unversioned files, or git ls-files -o Mar 02 21:19:19 Iwas looking at git-ls-files | less .. Mar 02 21:19:52 I try git ls-files -o .... so it seems that inside packages dir there are no secrets.. all in git Mar 02 21:20:06 maybe I have modified in tmp/work. Mar 02 21:20:15 thx Mar 02 21:50:14 newbie looking for some help with initial installation Mar 02 21:50:32 running on Ubuntu and /bin/sh -> /bin/dash Mar 02 21:51:09 I get a error from sanity.bb complaining about this: Mar 02 21:51:25 ""Using dash as /bin/sh causes various subtle build problems, please use bash instead." Mar 02 21:51:56 but I don't know how to "use bash instead", (I am running bash). Mar 02 21:52:13 any suggestions? Mar 02 21:52:58 emlinux_: and some software use /bin/sh thinking that it is bash ;( Mar 02 21:53:03 gtk+ for example Mar 02 21:53:16 emlinux_, sec.. Mar 02 21:53:27 emlinux_; sudo dpkg-reconfigure --terse -f readline dash Mar 02 21:53:28 emlinux_: 'dpkg-reconfigure bash' iirc Mar 02 21:54:17 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox * r63fdda2183 10openembedded.git/packages/vsftpd/vsftpd_2.0.5.bb: vsftpd: use short adduser options Mar 02 21:54:21 03Felix Domke  07org.openembedded.dreambox.release_25 * rfaca8c1807 10openembedded.git/packages/vsftpd/vsftpd_2.0.5.bb: vsftpd: use short adduser options Mar 02 21:55:54 OK, tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure --terse -f readline dash - no effect Mar 02 21:56:10 was it supposed to break the dash link? Mar 02 21:56:11 It didn't ask about reconfiguring the symlink? Mar 02 21:56:29 hi all Mar 02 21:56:31 Hi all! Where is the Qt/Embedded package in OpenEmbedded? :) Mar 02 21:57:12 any clue what is this error : Mar 02 21:57:12 make[2]: Entering directory `/OE/angstrom-dev/work/mipsel-angstrom-linux/glibc-2.6.1-r15/glibc-2.6.1/io' Mar 02 21:57:12 /OE/angstrom-dev/work/mipsel-angstrom-linux/glibc-2.6.1-r15/build-mipsel-angstrom-linux/io/faccessat.o.d:216: *** missing separator. Stop. Mar 02 21:57:56 no, it asked "Install dash as /bin/sh" Mar 02 21:58:05 Right Mar 02 21:58:09 And you want to say no Mar 02 21:58:13 to fix the problem Mar 02 21:58:24 Sorry, I typed yes, instead of no. This worked great, thanks. Mar 02 22:00:57 anyone know how to fix the above error? Mar 02 22:01:44 christian02, is it repeatable after a bitbake -c clean glibc? Mar 02 22:03:38 let me try Mar 02 22:03:45 what does this command do? Mar 02 22:04:09 same as make clean? Mar 02 22:10:04 Analogous Mar 02 22:10:17 It's a 'make clean' for the whole bitbake side of the glibc target Mar 02 22:10:43 i am stuck now,one ftp doesn't respond so it doesn't go ahead Mar 02 22:11:38 ftp.gnutls.org seem to be dead Mar 02 22:12:14 either that or my dns suck Mar 02 22:12:55 ftp.gnutls.org is an alias for igloo.linux.gr. Mar 02 22:12:56 igloo.linux.gr has address 62.1.205.36 Mar 02 22:13:12 yes,i can resolve it Mar 02 22:13:14 But, angstrom has a mirror of things, so you'll get it eventually Mar 02 22:13:16 it must be the ftp Mar 02 22:13:39 it's the third time it try the same ftp Mar 02 22:13:48 maybe this doesn't have any mirror :( Mar 02 22:14:20 angstrom has a last-resort mirror for everything Mar 02 22:14:29 good Mar 02 22:14:32 just needs to exhaust the regular ones first, takes time Mar 02 22:14:47 i'll go watch a movie in the meantime then :D Mar 02 22:39:08 03Michael 'Mickey' Lauer  07org.openembedded.dev * r227e86a6b2 10openembedded.git/packages/blueprobe/ (16 files in 5 dirs): Mar 02 22:39:08 blueprobe 0.18: fix makefile so that it actually builds Mar 02 22:39:08 remove older ones Mar 02 22:40:15 mickey|bbl: kill blueprobe at all... Mar 02 22:40:22 may i? Mar 02 22:40:24 I'd love to Mar 02 22:41:01 i want florian's blessing first though Mar 02 22:42:05 it should land in MACHINE_EXTRA for devices which needs it (old pdas) Mar 02 22:42:18 sounds good Mar 02 22:42:23 for most of OE devices it is just 1s wasted during boot Mar 02 22:42:24 still a couple of packages depend on blueproble though Mar 02 22:42:33 florian: ? Mar 02 22:42:36 gpe-* and task-base? Mar 02 22:42:50 ./packages/meta/oplinux-packages.bb: blueprobe \ Mar 02 22:42:50 ./packages/tasks/task-base.bb: blueprobe \ Mar 02 22:42:50 ./packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb:# more rdepends: keylaunch apmd blueprobe Mar 02 22:42:50 ./packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.68.bb:# more rdepends: keylaunch apmd blueprobe Mar 02 22:42:50 ./packages/blueprobe/blueprobe_0.18.bb:require blueprobe.inc Mar 02 22:42:51 ./packages/blueprobe/blueprobe_svn.bb: file://blueprobe-svn-Makefile.patch;patch=1" Mar 02 22:42:53 ./packages/blueprobe/blueprobe_svn.bb:require blueprobe.inc Mar 02 22:42:55 ./packages/images/mokogateway-image.bb: blueprobe \ Mar 02 22:42:57 ./packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.49.bb:DEPENDS = "gtk+ libdisplaymigration libgpewidget openobex libgpevtype bluez-libs sqlite dbus-glib libglade blueprobe bluez-utils-dbus libcontactsdb" Mar 02 22:43:06 oplinux, task-base, gpe* Mar 02 22:43:27 * florian would like to discuss this with pb__ too Mar 02 22:43:54 * mickeyl thinks the gpe packages need lots of love Mar 02 22:44:01 oplinux-packages is feeds, task-base is due to gpe. mokogateway-image has it by mistake rather Mar 02 22:44:12 mickeyl: don't you have a good sponsor? ;) Mar 02 22:44:19 mokogateway was for nslu2 type of devices which have BT on usb Mar 02 22:44:28 florian: not for Gtk+ derivates, sorry :) Mar 02 22:44:40 gtk+ stinks Mar 02 22:44:43 mickeyl: ah too bad Mar 02 22:45:42 hrw: looking at some projects i'd rather say that everything that needs c++ stinks Mar 02 22:46:40 mickeyl: not only gpe needs more love Mar 02 22:47:00 hrw: indeed. we have found so many contributors for the new things, but the old things get rusty and broken Mar 02 22:47:02 I added connman into buglinux today - this recipe needs love Mar 02 22:47:30 mickeyl: we need cleanup;D Mar 02 22:47:38 and we need oedem... Mar 02 22:47:47 +50 on both, yes. Mar 02 22:48:16 anyone visiting Embedded World this week? Mar 02 22:48:26 any interest in OEDEM on US east coast? Mar 02 22:48:30 florian: Marco from Koan will be there Mar 02 22:48:38 Crofton: if you will give me US visa... Mar 02 22:49:06 .pl to .us is not to bad I thought Mar 02 22:49:22 only stupid apply in advance thing I thought Mar 02 22:49:26 flight or visa? Mar 02 22:49:32 visa Mar 02 22:49:46 I suspect we would need sponsor money for flight/lodging Mar 02 22:49:47 you have to apply in advance Mar 02 22:50:04 * Crofton hopes the new regime does something about that Mar 02 22:50:10 and us visa form require more private data that I want to share Mar 02 22:50:16 s/that/then Mar 02 22:50:26 Crofton: I heared about people from Poland with major trouble getting a visa at all. Mar 02 22:50:51 hmmm, they are our allies? Mar 02 22:51:05 my government confuses me Mar 02 22:51:25 I thought the issue was with people not knowing and having trouble applying on line Mar 02 22:51:30 Crofton: your gov... bunch of ..... Mar 02 22:51:39 right Mar 02 22:51:40 Crofton: not only you, in fact i wouldn't have expected this too Mar 02 22:51:46 weird Mar 02 22:51:54 guess I should do some reading Mar 02 22:51:55 Crofton: us visa is definitelly not online Mar 02 22:52:09 for germans its easier Mar 02 22:52:18 and costs money nevermind will you get visa or not Mar 02 22:54:27 hrw: And if you don't get one they do not tell you why. Mar 02 23:00:20 03Philip Balister  07org.openembedded.dev * r12565c572f 10openembedded.git/packages/linux/linux-omap-2.6.28/overo/defconfig: Mar 02 23:00:20 linux-omap : Change Overo defconfig to support netfilter. Mar 02 23:00:20 * Needed for Maniac Challenge (http://www.maniacchallenge.org) Mar 02 23:01:43 we should watch out for demonstration in .pl Mar 02 23:04:58 probably Mar 02 23:04:59 and second 'E' in 'OEDEM' is European ;D Mar 02 23:05:00 :) Mar 02 23:05:14 heh Mar 02 23:05:24 OEDWM is what we need now :) Mar 02 23:09:24 BB_NUMBER_THREADS >1 and wget match up funny Mar 02 23:11:33 Tartarus: funny - ha-ha, or funny - weird :) Mar 02 23:12:13 03Mike Westerhof  07org.openembedded.slugos.5.3-beta * rd7e67eab50 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/include/preferred-slugos-versions.inc: SlugOS 5.3-beta feeds: set preferred_version for ffmpeg, as the git version is unfetchable. Mar 02 23:12:40 well, they output at the same time Mar 02 23:12:48 to the same spot Mar 02 23:12:55 so it switches from one dl to the other Mar 02 23:13:02 Tartarus: even GNU ld has that problem Mar 02 23:13:39 oh well but with GNU ld you hardly hit it Mar 02 23:13:50 I have not seen it on OE but elsewhere Mar 02 23:15:14 OMG! linuxtogo is now taking ~24 hours to process incoming messages (e.g. spam-control?) and another ~12 hours to send them out. Something is really banging that machine... Mar 02 23:15:53 ltg is too slow atm.. Mar 02 23:16:27 * florian takes a look after finishing latest mail Mar 02 23:17:08 I wouldn't mind several hours slow, but we are now talking "days" slow... :) Mar 02 23:17:14 florian: thanks Mar 02 23:17:41 ah we suffered from a crashed mailman today Mar 02 23:17:48 florian: what kind of equipment is it? can we donate something? e.g. extra RAM? Mar 02 23:18:36 denix: I need to check... its a rented machine. Mar 02 23:19:22 and it has 1GB ram Mar 02 23:21:09 hrw: only 1GB? RAM is cheap these days (depending on the type). Mar 02 23:21:27 denix: as florian said - it is not our machine Mar 02 23:21:59 hrw: some provider offer upgrading... Mar 02 23:22:11 I know Mar 02 23:22:36 "640Kb should be enough for anything" :) Mar 02 23:23:48 Jay7: heh, 64K used to be enough :) Mar 02 23:24:04 my first coputer had 128 bytes of RAM Mar 02 23:27:56 * denix wanted to make a joke about Crofton's misspelled coputer, but changed his mind... :) Mar 02 23:28:02 Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at www.angstrom-distribution.org. Mar 02 23:30:43 it's the same host as ltg... maybe florian is rebooting it :) Mar 02 23:32:14 or rather mailman occupy cpu to get rid of mails Mar 02 23:32:46 hrw, denix: just restarting apache... some php processes ate a lot of cpu Mar 02 23:32:52 we will need to take care of hosting problems Mar 02 23:33:19 currently we have iirc 2 servers for OE & LTG services Mar 02 23:34:19 hrw: imho the main problem is the same for both servers: only developers administrating them in their rare free time. Mar 02 23:34:35 o yes Mar 02 23:34:39 * florian is just working on fixing this Mar 02 23:34:55 florian: iirc nslu2 guys offered admin help? Mar 02 23:34:58 * Jay7 is system administrator ;) Mar 02 23:35:20 * hrw is developer which refused root access to OE servers Mar 02 23:35:27 s/which/who Mar 02 23:35:31 heh Mar 02 23:36:19 hrw, Jay7: this might be a good topic for the ltg mailinglist or similar Mar 02 23:36:31 yes Mar 02 23:36:49 florian: but not ltg one but rather ltg+oe-devel Mar 02 23:37:00 right Mar 02 23:37:04 florian: ltg has small amount of people subscribed Mar 02 23:37:12 * ant opens a shield: Jay7, pls install *bsd on that servers ;-) Mar 02 23:37:14 and OE is biggest project on ltg Mar 02 23:37:38 * florian never got the point fragemnting hosting even more Mar 02 23:37:52 * hrw -> bed Mar 02 23:37:58 its freaking late Mar 02 23:38:04 ant: I prefer to do not touch working setups ;) Mar 02 23:38:22 :> Mar 02 23:39:31 well.. here is late too.. Mar 02 23:39:52 f*ckin' mysql and ugly php software.. Mar 02 23:39:58 * florian still answers mails Mar 02 23:40:30 php... I am happy to not have to earn money by writing php code ;D Mar 02 23:40:34 bye Mar 02 23:40:49 Jay7: right... at ltg we got mysql by accident only. and unluckily a lot pf php for drupal and gforge Mar 02 23:40:56 hrw|gone: good night Mar 02 23:42:35 Jay7: for a good dose of luck, my LAMP on Gentoo is resisting every emerge since 2003 ;-) Mar 02 23:42:50 hehe :) Mar 02 23:43:16 I prefer PostgreSQL... Mar 02 23:43:40 mysql / mysqli are enough for my needs Mar 02 23:43:49 mysqli is rather fast Mar 02 23:44:02 Jay7: same here, that's what everything but the main website uses at ltg Mar 02 23:44:05 from php Mar 02 23:44:42 with mysql one need to be careful with the settings... Mar 02 23:44:48 florian: btw, drupal can now be installed with pgsql too Mar 02 23:45:00 core modules at least Mar 02 23:45:25 ant: you have only one 'official' encoding ;) Mar 02 23:45:30 we have 5 :)) Mar 02 23:45:39 I mean charset Mar 02 23:45:47 well, not exactly Mar 02 23:45:56 the same thing Mar 02 23:47:15 Jay7: right... i would love to get rid of mysql, but i never managed to find out how to migrate a drupal from mysql to postgres Mar 02 23:47:41 florian: I have found some docs in russian about this Mar 02 23:47:54 florian: is mostly read, isn't? not so many writes I think Mar 02 23:48:21 if you don't need transactions, mysql is overkill Mar 02 23:48:40 Jay7: hum well these won't that helpful for me ;) Mar 02 23:48:58 florian: don't even try babelfish... Mar 02 23:49:20 ant: yeah... especially for the remaining mysql stuff its > 99% read Mar 02 23:49:28 florian: if you remind me tomorrow I'll try to translate or search english version :) Mar 02 23:49:32 ok, so you don't need it Mar 02 23:50:07 'unbedingt' Mar 02 23:51:33 Jay7: i'f i'm not too tired tomorrow i'll remember :) Mar 02 23:52:06 ant: i's suggest that even a file based solution would be better :) Mar 02 23:52:06 florian,: is just mysql killing the machine? Mar 02 23:52:21 some sqlite? Mar 02 23:52:30 ant: no i don't think so, but it would free up some rare memory Mar 02 23:53:20 * florian is searching for a cms he can use for a company website. without php and preferrably without database server Mar 02 23:55:29 florian: hehe.. perlbrick or something like Mar 02 23:55:55 it just precreate static html pages from database on local computer iirc Mar 02 23:56:36 I'm using typo3 last time.. but it's php and mysql :) Mar 02 23:58:18 movabletype might be interesting... but this looks quite complex Mar 03 00:07:34 nite all Mar 03 00:15:13 good night Mar 03 01:35:06 * * OE Bug 5049 has been created by shawn.t.rutledge(AT)gmail.com Mar 03 01:35:08 * * neon doesn't build - dependency on GNU TLS is unsatisfied Mar 03 01:35:10 * * http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=5049 Mar 03 02:58:05 Hi, is there an API for accessing SPI of the PXA27x (or simialar) from userspace applications? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 03 02:59:56 2009