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Nov 01 04:29:54 <kristianpaul> Hell
Nov 01 04:29:56 <kristianpaul> o
Nov 01 04:30:11 <kristianpaul> What's the name of OE package wich contains qmake?
Nov 01 05:27:11 <vorporeal> where can i find a list of possible MACHINE_FEATURES?
Nov 01 06:34:44 <khem> vorporeal: look in bitbake.conf
Nov 01 06:35:20 <khem> vorporeal: or do bitbake -e <your image> | grep -e "^MACHINE_FEATURES"
Nov 01 06:54:35 <eFfeM_work> gm
Nov 01 07:45:24 <eFfeM_work> ericben: there is some info on lib names etc in http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/usermanual.html#id593730
Nov 01 08:19:14 <ka6sox> eFfeM_work, I love that makefile :D its working great.
Nov 01 08:35:45 <eFfeM_work> ka6sox, great
Nov 01 09:49:37 <CIA-4> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * re3e33312ac 10openembedded.git/recipes/busybox/ (busybox.inc files/usb.sh): 
Nov 01 09:49:37 <CIA-4> busybox: usb detection script
Nov 01 09:49:37 <CIA-4> remove git version which accidently leaked in the file.
Nov 01 09:49:37 <CIA-4> increase busybox PR.
Nov 01 09:49:37 <CIA-4> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
Nov 01 10:06:00 <RobotGuy> I am getting a failure on coreutils - http://pastebin.com/u5gVMwv4
Nov 01 10:07:06 <RobotGuy> It'spreventing me from building anything.
Nov 01 10:12:25 <DaveDavenport> khem: ok, with bitbake 1.10 or so I get past error
Nov 01 10:12:58 <DaveDavenport> khem: it does use xmllint without checking if it is there
Nov 01 10:21:32 <RobotGuy> How do I properly upgrade my bitbake?  It's only v1.10 now.
Nov 01 10:23:43 <JaMa> RobotGuy: are you using symlinks ie for WORKDIR?
Nov 01 10:24:37 <RobotGuy> I have two symlinks.  Had to split some stuff of to a separate filesystem due to space.
Nov 01 10:24:55 <RobotGuy> It hasn't been a problem so far, until maybe now.
Nov 01 10:25:09 <JaMa> use mount --bind instead of symlink
Nov 01 10:26:22 <RobotGuy> Does that essentially mount a dir under a mount point?
Nov 01 10:44:32 <RobotGuy> I am not getting --bind to work.
Nov 01 10:47:23 <RobotGuy> I'm not getting --bind to work.  I read the man page. :)
Nov 01 10:47:51 <dm8tbr> mount -o bind
Nov 01 10:48:54 <RobotGuy> It's not working.
Nov 01 10:49:05 <dm8tbr> hm no it should be -B or --bind
Nov 01 10:49:18 <RobotGuy> I know.  I tried -B and --bind
Nov 01 10:49:39 <RobotGuy> dm8tbr: Hi, we exchanged chat on #beagle. :)
Nov 01 10:52:58 <dm8tbr> yes
Nov 01 11:05:30 <RobotGuy> Crap.  I have 41 GB of stuff and it won't all fit on a single filesystem. :(
Nov 01 11:09:39 <dm8tbr> get a larger filesystem then ;)
Nov 01 11:35:55 <likewise> gm all
Nov 01 11:36:38 <Crofton|work> gm
Nov 01 11:41:21 <Jay7> that's why I've placed filesystems on LVM..
Nov 01 12:13:29 <ericben> hi, a presentation to better undestand what is linaro : http://elinux.org/images/0/00/ELCE-2010-Linaro.pdf it would be great to have the same thing for yocto !
Nov 01 12:20:22 <Jay7> ericben: for OE :)
Nov 01 12:21:14 <eFfeM_work> ericben: there was a speech during the social event, but no slides were shown
Nov 01 12:24:53 <CIA-4> 03Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> 07master * rcb798dc31d 10openembedded.git/ (54 files in 13 dirs): 
Nov 01 12:24:53 <CIA-4> xorg: new versions for 20101101
Nov 01 12:24:53 <CIA-4> * tested on SHR/gta-02, SHR/spitz, SHR/nokia900
Nov 01 12:24:53 <CIA-4> Signed-off-by: Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com>
Nov 01 12:27:30 <ericben> for OE there are several presentations around : http://www.power.org/devcon/07/Session_Downloads/PADC07_Koroneos_OE-presentation-final.pdf http://www.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2009Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ELC.klaasvangend.openembedded.v4.pdf http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/presentations/2009-SCW-Poky_Linux_and_OpenEmbedded_based_environment.pdf http://uuu.enseirb.fr/~kadionik/rmll2004/presentation/phili
Nov 01 12:27:43 <ericben> should mirror that on tyhe wiki
Nov 01 12:33:48 <RobotGuy> I took the right approach and repartitioned my space to give me 72 GB for OE development.  Rebuilding everything now.
Nov 01 12:34:35 <RobotGuy> Is anyone working to setup OE to allow developing for PandaBoard?
Nov 01 12:34:59 <tzanger> RobotGuy: nice. I'm trying to do a build of the overo branch but can't get past gmp
Nov 01 12:35:27 <JaMa> RobotGuy: just curious.. what didn't work on mount --bind? were you root?
Nov 01 12:35:46 <ericben> any idea on how to create page on the wiki ?
Nov 01 12:36:13 <eFfeM_work> RobotGuy: what do you mean with setup? just select the right machine and start baking
Nov 01 12:36:26 <ericben> ok found it
Nov 01 12:36:37 <RobotGuy> Yes, I was root.  I am not sure, but I got tired of dinking around with it and decided to make more space available on a single fs. Was easy, since the two fs I was using were consecutive space.
Nov 01 12:36:38 <JaMa> RobotGuy: I'm using it for OE a lot (ie WORKDIR is on raid0 instead of raid5) and I'm building in minimal chroot with all "data" directories binded there
Nov 01 12:37:02 <RobotGuy> eFfeM_work: I'm asking if OE can be used for PandaBoard.
Nov 01 12:37:23 <eFfeM_work> why not? 
Nov 01 12:37:36 <eFfeM_work> there is a machine description, so I guess it is
Nov 01 12:37:37 <eFfeM_work> don
Nov 01 12:37:45 <eFfeM_work> don't have a panda to test it with though
Nov 01 12:37:47 <RobotGuy> eFfeM_work: Further question, is OE already setup to allow developing for PandaBoard?
Nov 01 12:38:20 <eFfeM_work> sry, don't understand your Q, what is the part of the answer I gave you do not understand ?
Nov 01 12:39:27 <RobotGuy> eFfeM_work: That is what I was asking basically, but not very well.  I was wanting to know if there is already a machine description for PandaBoard.  I tried using pandaboard, but it didn't seem to know it.
Nov 01 12:39:52 <eFfeM_work> (01:28:33 PM) eFfeM_work: RobotGuy: what do you mean with setup? just select the right machine and start baking
Nov 01 12:39:55 <eFfeM_work> see conf/machine
Nov 01 12:40:11 <RobotGuy> Maybe it was related to out of disk space issue.
Nov 01 12:40:39 <RobotGuy> eFfeM_work: OK
Nov 01 12:41:15 <eFfeM_work> omap4430-panda
Nov 01 12:42:25 <RobotGuy> Ahhhh, OK, thanks!
Nov 01 12:42:41 <eFfeM_work> just look in conf/machine
Nov 01 12:42:58 <RobotGuy> Why could they just not have use "pandaboard" for the name?  It would have made way more sense, like beagleboard. :D
Nov 01 12:43:48 <Crofton|work> one day peoepl will work out a sane board naming
Nov 01 12:43:56 <Crofton|work> but ompa4430-panda makes sense
Nov 01 12:44:07 <Crofton|work> since it shows the soc part number
Nov 01 12:44:19 <RobotGuy> Crofton|work: Sane board naming?  That would be way too easy! :D
Nov 01 12:44:22 <Crofton|work> beagleboard should be omap3530-beagle
Nov 01 12:44:51 <RobotGuy> Crofton|work: Agreed, but then we have "beagleboard" for the BeagleBoard.  No consistancy there at all. :(
Nov 01 12:45:13 <RobotGuy> Crofton|work: I agree completely.
Nov 01 12:48:15 <RobotGuy> Now I am thinking my next board should be a PandaBoard instead of a BeagleBoard-xM
Nov 01 12:48:32 <DaveDavenport> we all do
Nov 01 12:48:41 <RobotGuy> We need something more powerful than the BeagleBoard C3 I have now.
Nov 01 12:48:54 <DaveDavenport> that is what she said
Nov 01 12:49:10 <RobotGuy> By "we", I mean the two of us working on the Pico Node now.
Nov 01 13:07:32 <ericben> here is a starting point trying to list OE related presentations : http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Presentations
Nov 01 13:11:58 <eFfeM_work> there was also an OE one of koen on elc, not sure if it is already on elinux
Nov 01 13:12:28 <ericben> it in the list ;)
Nov 01 13:12:40 <ericben> (last one)
Nov 01 13:15:18 <eFfeM_work> ah ok, didn't peek at the list, it was not in what you pasted at 1.19 (or I overlooked it)
Nov 01 13:19:59 <ericben> yes you're right it was not in the list I posted here 
Nov 01 13:26:48 <CIA-4> 03Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * ra9701212ca 10openembedded.git/recipes/qwt/ (qwt-e_5.2.1.bb qwt.inc qwt_5.2.1.bb): 
Nov 01 13:26:49 <CIA-4> qwt: add examples and fix -dev RPROVIDES
Nov 01 13:26:49 <CIA-4> Signed-off-by: Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com>
Nov 01 13:26:49 <CIA-4> Acked-by: Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com>
Nov 01 13:26:50 <CIA-4> 03Koen Kooi <k-kooi@ti.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r720ef41428 10openembedded.git/recipes/qwt/ (qwt-e_5.2.1.bb qwt.inc qwt_5.2.1.bb): 
Nov 01 13:26:50 <CIA-4> qwt 5.2.1: add recipes for /e and /x11 versions
Nov 01 13:26:50 <CIA-4> * QT/e apps using this lib will need some s/qwt/qwt$QTLIBINFIX/g love
Nov 01 13:38:21 <Jay7> ericben: I have article about OE in russian
Nov 01 13:38:31 <Jay7> should I add it there?
Nov 01 13:38:47 <ericben> Jay7: cool yes add it here
Nov 01 13:39:16 <ericben> it's interesting to show people there is communication around the project
Nov 01 13:40:42 <Crofton|work> ericben, thanks for organizing all of this
Nov 01 13:41:00 <ericben> Crofton|work: do you know who is the administrator of the wiki ?
Nov 01 13:41:16 <ericben> it would be great to mirror the files on the wiki to prevent loosing them
Nov 01 13:41:20 <Crofton|work> Steffen Sledz
Nov 01 13:41:33 <ericben> ok I'm asking him, thanks
Nov 01 13:41:37 <Crofton|work> great
Nov 01 13:51:55 <RobotGuy> I'm rebuilding everything after I had to delete temp.
Nov 01 13:52:03 <ericben> JaMa: hi, you added busybox 1.17.3 as the PREFERRED_VERSION in the shr distro, can I remove bb 1.16.2 which has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE_shr = "1" ?
Nov 01 13:52:39 <CIA-4> 03Koen Kooi <koen@openembedded.org> 07org.openembedded.dev * rff4946312f 10openembedded.git/recipes/angstrom/ (19 files): 
Nov 01 13:52:39 <CIA-4> angstrom: fix licensing for angstrom recipes
Nov 01 13:52:39 <CIA-4> tasks and hacks are all MIT, mkcard is GPLv2
Nov 01 13:54:26 <woglinde> jo
Nov 01 14:10:08 <mungkie> can anyone help a newbie with angstrom that has missing packages??
Nov 01 14:10:27 <woglinde> mungkie join #angstroem?
Nov 01 14:10:49 <mungkie> i have, but im the only one there wog
Nov 01 14:11:37 <woglinde> ?
Nov 01 14:11:41 <JaMa> ericben: sure
Nov 01 14:12:07 <woglinde>  /join #angstrom
Nov 01 14:12:52 <ericben> JaMa: ok thanks
Nov 01 14:18:20 <Jay7> btw
Nov 01 14:18:37 <Jay7> have anybody Sharp Zaurus SL-6000w?
Nov 01 14:18:44 <Jay7> 'w' is the key :)
Nov 01 14:19:10 <Jay7> lumag have untested code for integrated bluetooth for that model
Nov 01 14:21:17 <GNUtoo|laptop> woglinde, in xchat // can do a /
Nov 01 14:21:20 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi btw
Nov 01 14:21:33 <woglinde> hi gnutoo
Nov 01 14:21:39 <GNUtoo|laptop> when it's at the beginning 
Nov 01 14:25:30 <woglinde> hm is there a c-library which can can provide me an easy acces if an network interface is available
Nov 01 14:25:39 <woglinde> I dont wont to parse /proc my self
Nov 01 14:26:24 <Jay7> woglinde: easy access to chech network presence?
Nov 01 14:26:42 <woglinde> jay7 only if the interface is there or not
Nov 01 14:27:27 <Jay7> fork + exec /sbin/ifconfig <iface name> :)
Nov 01 14:27:34 <woglinde> whahahahaaa
Nov 01 14:27:35 <ericben> woglinde: when you mean there, you mean has a link and address ?
Nov 01 14:27:41 <GNUtoo|laptop> connman?
Nov 01 14:27:42 <woglinde> no
Nov 01 14:27:57 <woglinde> if blainterfaces == ppp0 
Nov 01 14:28:10 <woglinde> or if ppp1 is in interfaces
Nov 01 14:28:19 <woglinde> somethink like that
Nov 01 14:29:16 <Jay7>        unsigned if_nametoindex(const char *ifname);
Nov 01 14:29:22 <Jay7> at least this can be used
Nov 01 14:30:22 <woglinde> hm
Nov 01 14:30:45 <Jay7> if (0 == if_nametoindex("ppp0") { // there is no ppp0 }
Nov 01 14:31:40 <woglinde> hm seems newer glibc dont have it
Nov 01 14:31:43 <woglinde> but I will test
Nov 01 14:31:54 <Jay7> #include <net/if.h>
Nov 01 14:34:15 <woglinde> jay7 thanks so far
Nov 01 14:34:26 <Jay7> np
Nov 01 14:43:58 <woglinde> hi ant
Nov 01 14:44:06 <ant_> hey
Nov 01 14:44:19 <ant_> rainy weekend...
Nov 01 14:44:30 <ant_> monday too :/
Nov 01 14:44:31 <likewise> rainy week (according to the weather f/c)
Nov 01 14:44:40 <woglinde> hm not here
Nov 01 14:44:44 <woglinde> but looks like rain
Nov 01 15:05:45 <GNUtoo|laptop> sysroots/x86_64-linux/usr/armv4t/lib/gcc/arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/4.5.2/../../../../arm-oe-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find libgcc_s.so.1 => collect2: ld returned 1 exit status => configure:3354: error: C compiler cannot create executables
Nov 01 15:05:49 <GNUtoo|laptop> hi,
Nov 01 15:05:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> what can I do about that
Nov 01 15:05:57 <GNUtoo|laptop> ?
Nov 01 15:06:05 <GNUtoo|laptop> it's in e-wm
Nov 01 15:11:08 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: I have same issue with armv4 builds.. this helps:
Nov 01 15:11:11 <JaMa>  for i in dev/recipes/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_4.5.bb dev/recipes/gcc/gcc-cross-intermediate_4.5.bb dev/recipes/gcc/gcc-cross_4.5.bb dev/recipes/gcc/gcc_4.5.bb; do bitbake -c unpack -f -b $i; done
Nov 01 15:11:40 <JaMa> GNUtoo|laptop: happens with every gcc upgrade now..
Nov 01 15:11:58 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah ok
Nov 01 15:12:00 <GNUtoo|laptop> thanks a lot
Nov 01 15:12:33 <GNUtoo|laptop> JaMa, btw wesnoth is still broken on armv4t
Nov 01 15:12:37 <GNUtoo|laptop> illegal instruction
Nov 01 15:12:44 <woglinde> gnutoo hm
Nov 01 15:12:46 <JaMa> libmikmod too
Nov 01 15:12:48 <GNUtoo|laptop> I can look if you want
Nov 01 15:13:02 <woglinde> why libmikmod too
Nov 01 15:13:14 <JaMa> please do.. I want to concentrate on that glamo drm issue
Nov 01 15:13:33 <JaMa> woglinde: what does your libmikmod-config --libs return?
Nov 01 15:14:35 <JaMa> woglinde: here it returns -L/usr/lib and when it's used in by supertux-qvga configure then it fails.. http://git.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=4c1b1944d1cc9d736326728f311e42c3c0a472c5
Nov 01 15:16:18 <woglinde> hm I thought illegal instrcution
Nov 01 15:37:20 <RobotGuy> If I understand OE correctly, it will take care of keeping stuff separated if I want to develop for more than one board, like Beagle and Panda.  Is that correct?
Nov 01 15:40:14 <Crofton|work> right
Nov 01 15:41:06 <RobotGuy> Crofton|work: Thanks.  That's what I thought. :)
Nov 01 15:42:12 <RobotGuy> I want to use a PandaBoard for the "brain" of W.A.L.T.E.R. :D
Nov 01 15:42:29 <RobotGuy> It's already got the bluetooth and wifi built in! :D
Nov 01 15:51:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> JaMa, libmikimod?
Nov 01 15:51:51 <GNUtoo|laptop> ah yes right
Nov 01 15:51:54 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'll look later
Nov 01 15:52:03 <GNUtoo|laptop> I'm flashing right now
Nov 01 15:53:40 <GNUtoo|laptop> on armv4:
Nov 01 15:53:46 <GNUtoo|laptop> libmikmod-config --libs -L/usr/lib -lmikmod -ldl -lm
Nov 01 16:06:52 <CIA-4> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r515c1ce1fc 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-kexecboot-2.6.36/ (collie/defconfig poodle/defconfig tosa/defconfig): linux-kexecboot_2.6.36: add initial untested collie, poodle and tosa defconfigs
Nov 01 16:07:05 <CIA-4> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7b744e9d7c 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-kexecboot-2.6.36/ (akita/defconfig c7x0/defconfig spitz/defconfig): 
Nov 01 16:07:05 <CIA-4> linux-kexecboot_2.6.36: update defconfigs for c7x0, spitz, akita
Nov 01 16:07:05 <CIA-4> * add forgotten CONFIG_LEDS_TRIGGER_IDE_DISK=y
Nov 01 16:07:07 <CIA-4> 03Andrea Adami <andrea.adami@gmail.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r28f78abeed 10openembedded.git/recipes/linux/linux-kexecboot.inc: 
Nov 01 16:07:07 <CIA-4> linux-kexecboot.inc: define explicitely the custom defconfig for this kernel
Nov 01 16:07:07 <CIA-4> * set master console on serial
Nov 01 16:07:07 <CIA-4> * add the quiet/debug command line tag
Nov 01 16:38:31 <pb_> hi woglinde, mickey|office, all
Nov 01 16:44:39 <anarsoul> hi there
Nov 01 16:45:05 <anarsoul> was it _really_ necessary to make default gcc/eglibc from sane-toolchain.inc fetch from svn?
Nov 01 16:45:27 <anarsoul> it takes ages to fetch gcc from svn for me :(
Nov 01 16:46:49 <anarsoul> khem: it was your commit :)
Nov 01 17:02:59 <woglinde> hi pb
Nov 01 17:23:53 <mrj10> anyone run into trouble compiling xorg-251?
Nov 01 17:27:58 <mrj10> seems to be a straightforward bug in the source where header x requires you to include header y before it, but the includer (in the same package) doesn't do so
Nov 01 17:35:18 <vaderbloke> I am having a problem getting OE started. I have followed the instruction manual and done two clean installs, but I get the following error:
Nov 01 17:35:23 <vaderbloke>   File "/home/dlambert/oe/bitbake/lib/bb/event.py", line 67, in fire     if tmpHandler(event) == Handled:   File "tmpHandler(e)", line 8, in tmpHandler NameError: global name 'msg' is not defined 
Nov 01 17:36:12 <mrj10> vaderbloke: this is a bandaid fix, but people have found that upgrading to bitbake 1.10 fixes it.  we'd like to backport a fix to 1.08 too
Nov 01 17:36:37 <mrj10> well, what versions of bitbake and python are you running, actually
Nov 01 17:36:42 <vaderbloke> Thanks. I will try that.
Nov 01 17:37:27 <woglinde> vaderbloke too old bitbake version
Nov 01 17:38:01 <vaderbloke> BitBake Build Tool Core version 1.8.18, bitbake version 1.8.18, and Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:09:56) 
Nov 01 17:38:28 <mrj10> gotcha.  are all your bitbake-related environment variables set up (most people have a ~/.oe/environment script)
Nov 01 17:39:21 <mrj10> i have DISTRO, DISTRO_DIRNAME, OE_BUILD_DIR, OE_BUILD_TMPDIR, OE_SOURCE_DIR, OE_BASE, an addition to PATH, BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE, and BBPATH
Nov 01 17:44:05 <vaderbloke> Environments are: OEBASE=/home/dlambert/oe, PATH=/home/dlambert/oe/bitbake/bin:/home/dlambert/bin:/usr/local/sbin:..., BB_ENV_EXTRAWHITE=OEBASE, BBPATH=/home/dlambert/oe/build:/home/dlambert/oe/openembedded
Nov 01 17:44:50 <vaderbloke> Where are the other environment variables defined?
Nov 01 17:46:40 <mrj10> you're probably fine without some of those
Nov 01 17:46:52 <mrj10> i set up openembedded with a script by koen kooi called oebb.sh
Nov 01 17:47:05 <mrj10> http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts
Nov 01 18:00:39 <khem> gm all
Nov 01 18:02:26 <denix> khem: gm!
Nov 01 18:02:42 <khem> hey denix 
Nov 01 18:03:25 <khem> is someone going to send minutes of oedem to the ml ?
Nov 01 18:04:12 <woglinde> hi khem
Nov 01 18:04:15 <woglinde> hi denix
Nov 01 18:04:20 <khem> woglinde: hello
Nov 01 18:05:06 <khem> hmmm I wonder how some of the vars are getting pre-evaluated. 
Nov 01 18:05:19 <khem> and not all 
Nov 01 18:05:22 <khem> sometimes bitbake outsmarts humans
Nov 01 18:06:57 <khem> may be a tea will help
Nov 01 18:08:13 <denix> khem: the minutes will be published, of course. many people just came back from OEDEM - give them some time :)
Nov 01 18:08:45 <khem> you had your morning tea what more do u need ;) get back to writing them !!!!
Nov 01 18:09:18 <woglinde> lol
Nov 01 18:09:45 <denix> ha :)
Nov 01 18:10:10 <denix> I'd wait for somebody (Crofton?) to collate them first... :-P
Nov 01 18:10:22 <khem> denix: what did you do on a long flight back you had 6 hours :)
Nov 01 18:11:21 <khem> see ? I dont buy it you had enough time
Nov 01 18:11:57 * khem can become a stinky sucky manager sniffing over the neck
Nov 01 18:13:27 <denix> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-10-31/
Nov 01 18:16:25 <denix> khem: unfortunately I spend large portion of my time (and health) dealing with internal politics...
Nov 01 18:20:15 <tzanger> hmm, if I wanted to cherry-pick the gmp recipes from HEAD into my overo branch, do I have to cherry pick each file in the recipes/gmp/ dir individually? Is there a shortcut to say "this dir" ? git log doesn't have refspecs for directories which is why I'm asking
Nov 01 18:21:16 <tharvey> seems as if bitbake returns an error code (not zero value) if it encounters a non fatal QA Issue via insane.bbclass - does this make sense?
Nov 01 18:21:27 <mrj10> i've always had to copy the entire tree of files the recipe references
Nov 01 18:21:54 <mrj10> oh, git cherry-picking, not overlays
Nov 01 18:22:02 <mrj10> oops
Nov 01 18:23:04 <vaderbloke> Thanks. Upgrading to bitbake 1.10 seemed to do the trick :)
Nov 01 18:23:15 <woglinde> vaderbloke sure
Nov 01 18:23:26 <woglinde> otherwise we wouldnt have tell you
Nov 01 18:23:28 <woglinde> hms
Nov 01 18:24:08 <woglinde> same stuff when I would asking why 5 + 5 is not 11
Nov 01 18:24:17 <woglinde> and get the answer because its 11
Nov 01 18:24:19 <woglinde> args 10
Nov 01 18:24:19 <khem> woglinde: how is Aldi Sued's backofen breads :)
Nov 01 18:24:30 <woglinde> khem I am at aldi nord
Nov 01 18:24:32 <woglinde> you know
Nov 01 18:24:36 <khem> heh
Nov 01 18:24:54 <woglinde> and I will not drive to aldi south for you
Nov 01 18:25:05 <woglinde> I will head home now
Nov 01 18:25:11 <khem> I heard they are installing these baking machines 
Nov 01 18:25:22 <woglinde> hm?
Nov 01 18:25:46 <woglinde> nearly all bakeries has some kind of ofen
Nov 01 18:26:02 <woglinde> where the finish the baking
Nov 01 18:26:20 <khem> woglinde: they seems to be like kiosks and are fast 
Nov 01 18:26:21 <woglinde> dont know what teigrohlinge is called in english
Nov 01 18:26:54 <woglinde> go bye till later
Nov 01 18:27:11 <tharvey> Tartarus, my question the other day about git rev showing in tinderbox:  I expected to see the rev I see from 'git log' but instead OE uses 'git show-ref HEAD' - they are different, but I don't understand git enough to know why
Nov 01 18:28:39 <khem> tharvey: git show-ref HEAD will show you the remote branch
Nov 01 18:28:51 <khem> git log will show you versions including your local commits
Nov 01 18:29:32 <khem> tzanger: you could cherry pick commits concerning that given dir
Nov 01 18:30:10 <khem> tzanger: dont just copy the whole dir over and commit its better to do cherry pick as it helps you with merges later
Nov 01 18:30:29 <tharvey> khem, if I have no local commits wouldn't the versions be the same?  'git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded testing-next; cd testing-next; git checkout -b testing-next origin/testing-next' is what I did
Nov 01 18:31:17 <khem> ok so you were on testing-next branch
Nov 01 18:34:03 <tzanger> khem: right, I understand. I am still a git newbie and the whole idea of cherry picking is very attractive but difficult for me to get my head around
Nov 01 18:34:04 <tharvey> ya
Nov 01 18:34:19 <tharvey> still trying to understand tinderbox
Nov 01 18:34:49 <tzanger> hmm, PREFERRED_VERSION_gmp="4.2.2" and gmp-native="4.2.2" doesn't seem to be accepted, it keeps trying to build 4.2.4
Nov 01 18:35:14 <tharvey> thats why I noticed that certain QA issues are not treated as fatal yet do end up causing bitbake to return an error code which my build script catches and claims the build failed yet tinderbox says it succeeded
Nov 01 18:36:49 <tharvey> also noticing you can't really obtain buildtimes from tinderbox - if I bitbake meta-toolchain I want to know how long it took to build 'everything' required for meta-toolchain yet the timestamps associated with the packages are not right - they are all within seconds where the actual build took hours
Nov 01 18:36:55 <tharvey> http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/tharvey/
Nov 01 18:36:56 <Jay7> btw yes
Nov 01 18:37:04 <Jay7> bitbake for my builds always return 1
Nov 01 18:37:24 <Jay7> so I can't get real state of build
Nov 01 18:37:40 <tharvey> Jay7, do your builds have QA Issues?  gcc and cups both have them so likely yes
Nov 01 18:37:43 <Jay7> only after look on oestats-server
Nov 01 18:37:51 <Jay7> tharvey: I'm sure yes
Nov 01 18:38:25 <tharvey> ya, thats what I'm talking about.  I'm not clear what makes bitbake return failure from non fatal QA Issue - I don't see anything in insane.bbclass 
Nov 01 18:39:09 <Jay7> let's try to bother kergoth :)
Nov 01 18:39:49 <tharvey> when I bitbake meta-toolchain or meta-toolchain-qte tinderbox makes sense - shows the last thing built as the toolchain, yet when I build an image it doesn't show the image built at all - looks like it truncates the list of package builds
Nov 01 18:40:11 <ynezz> hm, I do built few distro/images on testing-next and I do bitbake image && touch OK_datetime_image_libc_distro
Nov 01 18:40:15 <ynezz> and it works so far
Nov 01 18:40:25 <Jay7> ynezz: hm..
Nov 01 18:40:34 <Jay7> my $? after bitbake is always 1
Nov 01 18:41:07 <tharvey> ynezz, do you have any disables for SANE?
Nov 01 18:41:33 <Jay7> for angstrom-2008.1/{akita,tosa,collie}/opie-image at least
Nov 01 18:41:37 <ynezz> well exactly I do START_stuff and then collect ret=$? and create ERROR_stuff or OK_stuff
Nov 01 18:41:39 <tharvey> I typically have INSANE_SKIP_gcc and INSANE_SKIP_cups to avoid the issue
Nov 01 18:41:44 <ynezz> and it works
Nov 01 18:42:02 <ynezz> no, just pure testing-next + effem's autobuild script
Nov 01 18:42:07 <ynezz> modified little bit
Nov 01 18:42:16 <tharvey> where's effem's autobuild script?
Nov 01 18:42:20 <khem> tharvey: actually wrt git ref it seems wrong it should be doing git show-ref --heads <branch>
Nov 01 18:42:27 <Jay7> +1 to look on srcipt :)
Nov 01 18:42:34 <ynezz> eFfeM: ^ 
Nov 01 18:42:35 <ynezz> :)
Nov 01 18:42:54 <Jay7> eFfeM: can you place your script on wiki Testing page?
Nov 01 18:43:07 <ynezz> I can give you my run.sh + autobuild.sh when I reboot the remote box, so tomorrow
Nov 01 18:43:27 <ynezz> run is just for loop for machine/distro/libc variants
Nov 01 18:43:32 <Jay7> I can place my current but there is some overkill wrt to incremental building now
Nov 01 18:43:36 <tharvey> khem, yup - that gives me what I would expect to see - who has access to fix tinderbox?
Nov 01 18:44:00 <khem> tharvey: its not tinderbox, its sent from oeclient
Nov 01 18:44:10 <tharvey> eFfeM, while your at it, perhaps give cmds to checkout the testing-next branch to make it clear for git git's like myself :P
Nov 01 18:44:13 <ynezz> Jay7: that incremental shouldn't be that hard to add to that autobuild script, I plan to add it when I've more time
Nov 01 18:44:22 <tharvey> khem, doh... of course
Nov 01 18:44:33 <Jay7> hm.. should I iterage over libc's too in my builds?
Nov 01 18:44:51 <ynezz> I do use uclibc so I do build uclibc based image also
Nov 01 18:45:08 <Jay7> I have a lot of free CPU time atm
Nov 01 18:45:11 <ynezz> but it's not mandatory, do what you want to test
Nov 01 18:45:21 <Jay7> so I can load it with some useful work :)
Nov 01 18:46:09 <ynezz> maybe we should make some common autobuild script and put it into contrib dir
Nov 01 18:46:33 <florian> re
Nov 01 18:46:33 <Jay7> ynezz: I'll prefer to have it integrated with bitbake may be..
Nov 01 18:47:10 <Jay7> i.e. on python with direct access to classes.. but this require more time and skills..
Nov 01 18:47:27 <ynezz> it's overkill I think, it's just few variables you change
Nov 01 18:50:52 <eFfeM> ynezz: Jay7, all, I've reworked my script a little bit, doing a test run now, will try to make it available later this week
Nov 01 18:51:02 <ynezz> cool, thanks
Nov 01 18:51:06 <Jay7> eFfeM: 10x
Nov 01 18:51:10 <eFfeM> time permitting, many things on my agenda this week
Nov 01 18:51:13 <Jay7> I'll share my work too
Nov 01 18:51:25 <tharvey> I guess I just find the layout/features of tinderbox not that useful.  I don't care to see the 'last task' for the various packages - I want to see all the tasks 
Nov 01 18:51:43 <Jay7> but after some internal decision about how to deal with incremental builds
Nov 01 18:52:25 <khem> tharvey: http://pastebin.com/xVE04X7C try this patch
Nov 01 18:53:35 <khem> tharvey: if you click on that '+' you see the tasks
Nov 01 18:55:21 <tharvey> khem, right... so I'm trying to see the status of the bitbake console-image I did - http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/tharvey/ then I click on the first one (2010-10-30 14:08:41) and I see 'do_package_stage' for all tasks, yet I don't see for example the last task that executed which was the do_rootfs for console-image
Nov 01 18:55:41 <tharvey> khem, OH- I see what your saing 'per task'
Nov 01 18:56:19 <tharvey> khem, yes - I didn't understand the interface, I see what I was looking for now
Nov 01 18:57:18 <tharvey> and looking at specific task for image I can see the overall build time by diffing do_setscene timestamp with do_build timestamp - perfect
Nov 01 18:57:35 <tharvey> took 3 hours to build x11-image from clean TMPDIR
Nov 01 18:57:45 <khem> tharvey: thats good
Nov 01 18:57:53 <khem> tharvey: try that patch I posted 
Nov 01 18:57:53 <tharvey> ya... not too shabby
Nov 01 18:58:03 <Jay7> eFfeM, ynezz: but about bitbake return status.. are you doing something like bitbake $images; rc=$? or bitbake $images && <success> || <fail> ?
Nov 01 18:58:05 <khem> and see if it reports correct commit id
Nov 01 18:58:24 <tharvey> DNS challeneged at the moment... can't get to your patch (just see msg about pastebin.com changing servers) - trying to resolve
Nov 01 18:58:33 <ynezz> Jay7: bitbake image; ret=$?
Nov 01 18:58:43 <Jay7> hm..
Nov 01 18:59:02 <ynezz> I build just one image at time; then rm tmpdir
Nov 01 18:59:09 <Jay7> +1 here
Nov 01 18:59:17 <ynezz> console-image and minimal-image
Nov 01 18:59:20 <ynezz> nothing else
Nov 01 18:59:20 <Jay7> in prev builds at least
Nov 01 18:59:31 <Jay7> well.. I'll look again then
Nov 01 18:59:38 <Jay7> may be I've missed something
Nov 01 19:05:08 <anarsoul> khem: hi, why oe fetches toolchain components (eglibc, gcc) from svn?
Nov 01 19:05:44 <khem> anarsoul: because they are in svn
Nov 01 19:05:54 <khem> if you dont want that enable mirrors
Nov 01 19:06:05 <anarsoul> khem: I'm pretty sure that there're snapshots
Nov 01 19:06:17 <anarsoul> khem: how to enable mirrors?
Nov 01 19:06:37 <anarsoul> khem: I'm asking because gcc fetch took more than 2 hours and did not finish
Nov 01 19:06:54 <ynezz> Jay7: it's not 100% what I'm using, but it was used as the starting point http://pastebin.com/gNvkntuP
Nov 01 19:07:27 <tharvey> khem, sorry, would you mind pasting your patch to pastie.org for me?  can't seem to get to pastebin.com
Nov 01 19:09:54 <anarsoul> khem: according to this page: http://wiki.openembedded.org/index.php/Sources_mirror mirros are enabled by default
Nov 01 19:09:58 <khem> anarsoul: sometimes servers are loaded
Nov 01 19:10:33 <khem> anarsoul: enable angstrom mirror too
Nov 01 19:10:58 <ynezz> not an good idea i think, it's damn slow these days
Nov 01 19:11:10 <khem> INHERIT += "angstrom_mirrors"
Nov 01 19:11:11 <Tartarus> Hmm
Nov 01 19:11:17 <khem> hmm I thought it was fixed
Nov 01 19:11:18 <Tartarus> Anyone around with a current rootfs around?
Nov 01 19:11:26 <tzanger> ffff'
Nov 01 19:11:31 <Tartarus> Wondering if the opkg status stuff for installed stuff is install user installed
Nov 01 19:11:33 <Tartarus> or install ok installed
Nov 01 19:11:42 <Tartarus> pstaging ends up being install user installed, which is, uh, puzzling
Nov 01 19:12:09 <anarsoul> khem: will it use tgz/tbz2 snapshots then?
Nov 01 19:12:36 <khem> anarsoul: yes someone uploads a tar file to mirrors and if you are lucky it will find it
Nov 01 19:13:01 <khem> and if you are unlucky it will find it and mirror will give you like 6kbps dnld rate
Nov 01 19:13:14 <khem> Tartarus: should be root I guess isnt it
Nov 01 19:13:35 <Tartarus> pstaging or root?
Nov 01 19:13:47 <khem> I mean rfs
Nov 01 19:13:50 <khem> not pstaging
Nov 01 19:13:58 <khem> I dont know about pstaging
Nov 01 19:14:40 <khem> Tartarus: my sysroot is populated with user
Nov 01 19:15:09 <Tartarus> pstaging is user, yeah
Nov 01 19:15:11 <Tartarus> not sure why
Nov 01 19:15:22 <Tartarus> but that's not what the stage-manager-ipk expects, oddly :)
Nov 01 19:15:28 * Tartarus wonders if that's just a bug
Nov 01 19:16:05 <khem> Tartarus: and if I list a staging ipk contents then they come out to be root/root
Nov 01 19:16:30 <khem> drwxr-xr-x root/root         0 2010-11-01 11:27 ./sysroots/armv7a-oe-linux-gnueabi/
Nov 01 19:16:50 <Tartarus> Right
Nov 01 19:16:57 <Tartarus> So the script should be expecting install user installed
Nov 01 19:17:00 <Tartarus> not install ok installed
Nov 01 19:17:02 <khem> but this sysroot is not populated from pstaging but as it happens first time
Nov 01 19:17:16 <khem> yeah it should be user
Nov 01 19:17:20 * Tartarus updates
Nov 01 19:23:43 <anarsoul> khem: angstrom mirrors seems to be slow :(
Nov 01 19:23:53 <anarsoul> 4kb/sec
Nov 01 19:26:40 <anarsoul> shr-mirrors is much better :)
Nov 01 19:26:45 <anarsoul> thanks for hint anyway
Nov 01 19:30:13 <dm8tbr> khem: do you happen to have a screenshot of the garbled fonts in https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+bug/667490 was it anything like http://bugs.meego.com/attachment.cgi?id=1965 ?
Nov 01 19:33:24 <CIA-4> 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r0de2221d3b 10openembedded.git/recipes/stage-manager/ (files/stage-manager-ipkg stagemanager-native_0.0.1.bb): 
Nov 01 19:33:24 <CIA-4> stage-manager: Fix removal of installed packages
Nov 01 19:33:24 <CIA-4> Currently, the status line for installed pstaging packages will ready
Nov 01 19:33:24 <CIA-4> 'Status: install user installed' but we check for 'install ok installed'
Nov 01 19:33:24 <CIA-4> so the check fails and we don't remove. Fix the check to look for user
Nov 01 19:36:43 <tharvey> is anyone capable of fixing the QA Issue with gcc and/or cups?: http://pastebin.com/TGBvK3Pg
Nov 01 19:36:54 <tzanger> hmm, if I change conf/machine/include/omap3.inc do I have to do anything to bitbake to have the changes apply? is bitbake -c compile gmp-native enough or do I have to flush something
Nov 01 19:39:57 <tharvey> tzanger, depends on the changes
Nov 01 19:40:30 <tharvey> if you need to force rebuild of kernel you bump MACHINE_KERNEL_PR there
Nov 01 19:40:49 <tharvey> if you have tweaked something that your toolchain uses you probably need to wipe TMPDIR
Nov 01 19:43:00 <tzanger> tharvey: just trying to change the preferred version
Nov 01 19:44:01 <khem> dm8tbr: I will have to defer that to JaMa or GNUtoo who have seen it with their eyes
Nov 01 19:44:08 <khem> I was the backend
Nov 01 19:44:08 <tharvey> should be ok then, just bitbake your image and it should follow deps for your new version
Nov 01 19:45:03 <dm8tbr> khem: ok, because there is a font garbling issue with meego on TI OMAP3 so e.g. on BeagleBoard. It uses 4.5 but not neon optimization.
Nov 01 19:45:26 <dm8tbr> but still if it would be simmilar it could be a lead to track down what happens
Nov 01 19:48:26 <khem> dm8tbr: The problem does not happen for OE with vanilla 4.5 
Nov 01 19:48:34 <Jay7> hm.. why TMPDIR is not inherited from env even if whitelisted?
Nov 01 19:48:36 <khem> dm8tbr: what gcc does meego use ?
Nov 01 19:48:56 <Jay7> I mean bitbake's conf
Nov 01 19:49:54 <Jay7> it would be easier to change TMPDIR from env w/o need to overwrite local.conf
Nov 01 19:49:55 <dm8tbr> khem: 4.5 is all I currently know. and stskeeps checked and the build log for cairo didn't seem to indicate neon optimization
Nov 01 19:51:04 <dm8tbr> I'd just like to see some movement in this: http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5616
Nov 01 19:51:36 <dm8tbr> nobody takes notice as it doesn't happen with the nokia SGX driver on n900
Nov 01 19:51:46 <tzanger> hmm, gmp 5.0.1 builds but has no install targe
Nov 01 19:51:48 <tzanger> target
Nov 01 19:52:27 <khem> dm8tbr: is it 4.5 from upstream gcc or some code sourcery thing
Nov 01 19:52:46 <dm8tbr> khem: let me ask stskeeps
Nov 01 19:53:12 <dm8tbr> meh, he left for the day
Nov 01 19:53:28 <khem> tzanger: weird 
Nov 01 19:54:24 <khem> dm8tbr: well, if you are using upstream versions then the issue you have is different although it could be ending in similar display corruption
Nov 01 19:54:29 <tzanger> khem: yeah, agreed. this is just a git pull then checked out to the overo branch
Nov 01 19:55:06 <khem> tzanger: yeah upstream oe is better place unless you have a merge monkey sitting on overo branch on daily bases
Nov 01 19:56:19 <tzanger> khem: hmm, I thought HEAD was where there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth? the gumstix people say that the overo branch is stable, but I am getting very disillusioned with everything gumstix in the past few months
Nov 01 19:56:37 <dm8tbr> khem: yes, it is quite likely different as there is no neon optimization on meego. still trying to see if what happened here could be a hint to what really happens there.
Nov 01 19:56:58 <tzanger> khem: is it 'git log recipes/gmp/gmp-5.0.1.bb @HEAD' to see commits for that file between what I have (overo branch) and upstream?
Nov 01 19:57:02 <cbrake> Crofton|work: do you know where mirrors.oe.org is hosted?
Nov 01 19:57:54 <khem> tzanger: head has all cool stuff and with it comes some pain but its surprisngly low if you can contain your adventurous instincts and dont update on every commit
Nov 01 19:58:20 <eFfeM> Jay7: was afk, for now I only do a bitbake and visually inspect the result. hudson (which I use as autobuilder can also report success/failure, but saw that some warnings are interpreted as errors (e.g. multiple providers)
Nov 01 19:58:21 <Crofton|work> no
Nov 01 19:58:26 <khem> dm8tbr: thats possible. plus cairo has its own neon optimizers
Nov 01 19:58:37 <Crofton|work> I think that was soemthing Rolf played with
Nov 01 19:59:04 <tzanger> khem: is there a list of tags which are considered reasonably stable? I always seem to pull at the most inopportune time
Nov 01 19:59:04 <cbrake> Crofton|work: so he just gave you an IP of a machine he had control of
Nov 01 19:59:17 <Crofton|work> yeah
Nov 01 19:59:21 <khem> Crofton|work: may be we should transfer that to osuosl ?
Nov 01 19:59:33 <khem> tzanger: yes testing tags
Nov 01 19:59:36 <Crofton|work> give me an ip number and I will make it so
Nov 01 19:59:48 <dm8tbr> khem: stskeeps checked cairo build output and didn't see neon optimizations happening
Nov 01 19:59:59 <khem> tzanger: git show-ref --tags
Nov 01 20:00:17 <khem> dm8tbr: ok, usually they have inline assembly
Nov 01 20:00:26 <dm8tbr> ah, ok that wouldn't show
Nov 01 20:00:53 <khem> dm8tbr: what are you doing with meego ?
Nov 01 20:01:06 <tzanger> khem: aha, thank you
Nov 01 20:01:52 <tzanger> git log is driving me insane.  git log path/to/file to see the log for that file.  git log master..HEAD to see the changes between the current branch and master branch, but git log path/to/file master..HEAD is wrong
Nov 01 20:02:49 <khem> tzanger: depends on your git-fu
Nov 01 20:02:57 <dm8tbr> khem: trying to make it work on the Archos5IT and later on the newest devices too. As those also are OMAP3 they also suffer from this bug making the meego port unusable.
Nov 01 20:03:25 <khem> dm8tbr: ok how about OE does it work for you ?
Nov 01 20:03:59 <dm8tbr> khem: haven't tried it recently with SGX, but that generally works fine on those units
Nov 01 20:04:58 <tzanger> khem: my git-fu level is currently somewhere between "total n00b" and "I kinda-sorta get it... no wait, I don't."
Nov 01 20:05:11 <dm8tbr> some people use SGX and Qt and never reported problems. They use Angstrom as base
Nov 01 20:05:40 <khem> dm8tbr: ok. Did you try angstrom-2010 thus far ?
Nov 01 20:05:48 <khem> dm8tbr: thats the one using gcc 4.5
Nov 01 20:06:23 <dm8tbr> I think they are using 2009
Nov 01 20:06:55 <khem> k 2008 I guess thats using gc 4.3 
Nov 01 20:06:57 <khem> gcc
Nov 01 20:07:19 <khem> tzanger: heh so you will struggle a bit and that will make you yellow belt 
Nov 01 20:07:46 <khem> ah SIGFOOD
Nov 01 20:07:49 <khem> bbiab
Nov 01 20:07:53 <dm8tbr> enjoy
Nov 01 20:16:04 <Jay7> ah.. hehe.. I've passed TMPDIR to bitbake from env :)
Nov 01 20:17:56 <tzanger> khem: :-) okay, thank you very much
Nov 01 20:18:51 <tzanger> khem: hmm, git show-ref --tags comes up completely blank on the org.openembedded.dev branch
Nov 01 20:20:05 <JaMa> dm8tbr: hard to say if it's the same.. here it looked like ie whole line in terminal was rendered in 1 pixel width line
Nov 01 20:20:24 <JaMa> dm8tbr: so it looked different.. but that could be because of different font etc..
Nov 01 20:21:24 <dm8tbr> ok
Nov 01 20:21:27 <dm8tbr> thanks
Nov 01 20:33:18 <tzanger> hmm... 
Nov 01 20:38:45 <tzanger> if I am checked out on the org.openembedded.dev branch and I want to see the git log/diff between the head of org.openembedded.dev and the overo branch's head for a specific file?
Nov 01 20:39:18 <tzanger> git log org.openembedded.dev..HEAD -- recipes/images/omap3-desktop-image.bb doesn't seem to do it, nor does overo..HEAD or even org.openembedded.dev..HEAD overo..HEAD --
Nov 01 20:39:24 <tzanger> they all come up blank
Nov 01 20:39:43 <tzanger> which can't be right because the file doesn't exist in the branch org.openembedded.dev and does in the overo branch
Nov 01 20:43:08 <Crofton|work> that is specific to the overo branch
Nov 01 20:46:34 <tzanger> Crofton|work: well between any two branches really
Nov 01 20:46:45 <tzanger> I only have the overo branch and the org.openembedded.dev branch locally
Nov 01 20:59:45 <ericben> hi, libtinfo.so.5 problem came back in gdb : /usr/local/angstrom/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gdb: error while loading shared libraries: libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Nov 01 21:08:05 <ericben> hi Tartarus , in recipes/gdb/gdb-cross-sdk.inc : are you sure oe_runconf should be after all the sed ?
Nov 01 21:14:59 <Tartarus> No, those last two commits aren't ones i'm 100% happy with
Nov 01 21:15:12 <Tartarus> One totally broke everyone and then i fixed it to build again
Nov 01 21:15:31 <ericben> in the present case, the sed are cleaned by the last oe_reconf
Nov 01 21:15:31 <Tartarus> It could well be subtly wrong again or in a new way
Nov 01 21:15:59 <ericben> I don't understand why this oe_runconf is needed
Nov 01 21:16:12 <ericben> is was added when do_configure_append was changed to do_configure
Nov 01 21:16:15 <ericben> which is logical
Nov 01 21:16:18 <Tartarus> Yeah
Nov 01 21:16:22 <ericben> but not do_configure_append is do_configure
Nov 01 21:16:27 <Tartarus> So, 90cdd0e3813a274a19a2625f664542ef7f93e8f7
Nov 01 21:16:32 <ericben> so we hjave runconf -> sed -> runconf
Nov 01 21:16:34 <Tartarus> That was to fix one thing, but totally broke one case
Nov 01 21:16:49 <Tartarus> I think the whole dance we do isn't needed anymore
Nov 01 21:17:00 <ericben> which dances ?
Nov 01 21:17:04 <Tartarus> But that's a bigger change than I wanted to do in a quick fixup
Nov 01 21:17:06 <Tartarus> see..
Nov 01 21:17:21 <Tartarus> recipes/gdb/gdb.inc
Nov 01 21:17:43 <Tartarus> and then
Nov 01 21:17:51 <Tartarus> recipes/gdb/gdb-cross.inc recipes/gdb/gdb-cross-sdk.inc
Nov 01 21:19:32 <ericben> ok so actually we do the configure from gdb-cross.inc and append the one in gdb-cross-sdk.inc
Nov 01 21:20:01 <Tartarus> It's a giant mess, yes :)
Nov 01 21:20:04 <ericben> I don't see why we need a second oe_runconf is gdb-cross-sdk
Nov 01 21:20:11 <Tartarus> Again, 90cdd... was "no, we do want to.."
Nov 01 21:20:22 <angelox_123> Hi
Nov 01 21:20:42 <ericben> ok so this has to be fixed ?
Nov 01 21:21:01 <ericben> in gdb-cross-sdk.inc
Nov 01 21:21:11 <angelox_123> i've created a distro for me(a .conf file on conf/distro)... Have anyhow to "public" that on git OE Tree ?
Nov 01 21:21:55 <Tartarus> ericben, in all of them.  I don't think we need to be playing these stupid games anymore which is the heart of why 90cdd was done to tstart with
Nov 01 21:23:15 <ericben> angelox_123: create a patch and submit to the mailing list, and be ready to explain why you need a new distro ;-)
Nov 01 21:23:47 <ericben> Tartarus: ok, I'll try to study this when I have time
Nov 01 21:24:10 <ericben> I don't yet have a good global view of what was changed in gdb
Nov 01 21:25:01 <ericben> for the moment : removing the one in gdb-cross-sdk fixe the library problem in the sdk
Nov 01 21:26:12 <angelox_123> ericben: i tried subscribe now,but have a bug on mailman
Nov 01 21:26:34 <ant_> florian: help
Nov 01 21:26:42 <angelox_123> ericben: i'll try later
Nov 01 21:27:14 <ant_> florian: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/ -> An error occured in the logger. ERROR: could not extend relation 1663/16385/17361: No space left on device HINT: Check free disk space.
Nov 01 21:27:19 <tharvey> khem, http://pastebin.com/xVE04X7C does resolve the issue we discussed
Nov 01 21:28:34 <ericben> Tartarus: is it an acceptable fix for now (ie : should I make a patch for this : remove oe_runconf in gdb-cross-sdk.inc ?)
Nov 01 21:31:01 <Tartarus> Post on the ML
Nov 01 21:31:05 <Tartarus> Since that'll break someone else
Nov 01 21:31:23 <ericben> ok ;)
Nov 01 21:37:25 <tzanger> khem: I think I got it.  when checked out to mainline (org.openembedded.dev) git log overo recipes/images/omap3-desktop-image.bb gives me the log and git diff org.openembedded.dev overo recipes/images/omap3-desktop-image.bb gives me the diff
Nov 01 21:37:40 <tzanger> I got tripped up trying to follow examples with branchname..HEAD
Nov 01 21:37:50 <khem> tzanger: yes 
Nov 01 21:37:56 <khem> tharvey: ok thanks
Nov 01 21:38:05 <khem> tharvey: I will post it to ml
Nov 01 21:38:16 <tharvey> thx
Nov 01 21:38:21 <tzanger> so now I start my adventure with overo on mainline.. :-)
Nov 01 21:38:32 <tzanger> khem: oh -- there are no tags in mainline that I was able to see
Nov 01 21:38:48 <tharvey> tzanger, mainline oe or mainline kernel?
Nov 01 21:39:20 <tzanger> mainline
Nov 01 21:39:40 <tharvey> mainline 'what'? :)
Nov 01 21:39:56 <tzanger> git show-ref --tags just comes up empty. I was looking for a tag to checkout for a reasonably stable point in time for mainline
Nov 01 21:40:00 <tzanger> tharvey: org.openembedded.dev
Nov 01 21:40:02 <tzanger> the entire thing
Nov 01 21:40:17 <tharvey> I've been running overo on HEAD 
Nov 01 21:40:40 <ericben> tzanger: git fetch -t ?
Nov 01 21:40:43 <tharvey> note that the kernel though is linux-omap-psp-2.6.32 - sync'd up with TI's PSP
Nov 01 21:41:10 <tharvey> note clear how omap3 is in newer kernels... guessing some of the DSP stuff may not work
Nov 01 21:41:12 <tzanger> ericben: I'll give that a try -- I admitted publically to khem that my git-fu is rather weak
Nov 01 21:41:37 <tzanger> tharvey: which image do you tend to build? I just pulled in omap3-desktop-image.bb from the overo branch
Nov 01 21:42:30 <tharvey> typically a custom image that likely includes much of the same - I'm using DSP and camera ISP
Nov 01 21:42:39 <tharvey> gstreamer-ti
Nov 01 21:43:27 <tzanger> tharvey: yeah, the first error I ran into was that omap3-desktop-image uses ipkg whcih no longer exists
Nov 01 21:43:43 <tzanger> it's rather frustrating developing with these gumstix boards, I can't say I'd use them again in future designs
Nov 01 21:44:38 <tharvey> I hear you... I'm not liking the forked tree.  Not clear how often the push back... obviously not often
Nov 01 21:44:49 <tharvey> lack of documentation on the modules is a killer for sure
Nov 01 21:46:48 <tharvey> not really sure whats in omap3-desktop-image - haven't looked at it in a long time.  Perhaps it would be useful to push into OE
Nov 01 21:46:54 <tzanger> tharvey: I don't mind community support, but I've had a problem with their COMs for over a month and a half now that nobody from gumstix feels they should answer, and the only answer Gordon gives is to ask on the public lists
Nov 01 21:47:09 <tharvey> might want to check out the beagleboard-demo-image - not clear what would be in there that is really 'beagle' specific
Nov 01 21:47:24 <tzanger> tharvey: ah yes this is true
Nov 01 21:47:33 <tharvey> tzanger, specific issue?  jump over to #gumstix and we can compare notes
Nov 01 21:48:43 <tzanger> sure
Nov 01 21:52:47 <khem> tzanger: are you on master of OE
Nov 01 21:53:01 <khem> tzanger: it should return some testing tags
Nov 01 21:55:22 <tzanger> khem: I just did a git pull and then tracked the overo branch
Nov 01 21:55:43 <tzanger> git branch shows only two branches (org.openembedded.dev and overo) and I've switched back to the org.openembedded.dev branch)
Nov 01 21:57:03 <khem> tzanger: the tags are on master not on overo branch
Nov 01 21:57:48 <tzanger> khem: I know, I'm not on the overo branch
Nov 01 21:57:58 <tzanger> $ git branch
Nov 01 21:57:58 <tzanger> * org.openembedded.dev
Nov 01 21:57:58 <tzanger>   overo
Nov 01 21:58:22 <khem> git show-ref --tags
Nov 01 21:58:55 <tzanger> $ git show-ref --tags
Nov 01 21:58:58 <tzanger> $
Nov 01 21:59:12 <tzanger> this was just pulled yesterday
Nov 01 22:00:34 <ericben> from wher do you pull ?
Nov 01 22:00:40 <ericben> which server ?
Nov 01 22:00:51 <khem> I think he is not pulling from oe git
Nov 01 22:00:55 <ericben> yes
Nov 01 22:00:57 <khem> hey Eric
Nov 01 22:01:02 <ericben> hi khem 
Nov 01 22:01:10 <khem> election eve in US
Nov 01 22:01:17 <khem> lot of dirt in air :)
Nov 01 22:01:18 <ericben> holdiay in France ;-)
Nov 01 22:01:26 <khem> ericben: cool .
Nov 01 22:01:28 <ericben> holiday sorry
Nov 01 22:01:53 <khem> ericben: I will read holiday in whatever language you write 
Nov 01 22:01:55 <khem> :)
Nov 01 22:01:58 <ka6sox-work> unforttunatly no holiday here ;(
Nov 01 22:02:06 <khem> ka6sox-work: hey
Nov 01 22:02:09 <ericben> we follow these election also here
Nov 01 22:02:16 <ka6sox-work> khem hiya
Nov 01 22:02:16 <khem> garnet is working again thanks for fixing it
Nov 01 22:02:16 <tzanger> ericben: I'm pretty sure it was from oe's server, let me see if I can find out
Nov 01 22:02:26 <khem> ka6sox-work: now we should give hudson a whirl
Nov 01 22:02:39 <ericben> they are happy to show that it's not only in france that the actual president has popularity problems ;-)
Nov 01 22:02:40 <ka6sox-work> khem, yep...in about an hour I'll kick off a build
Nov 01 22:02:45 <tzanger> oh wait
Nov 01 22:02:47 <tzanger> git clone git://gitorious.org/gumstix-oe/mainline.git org.openembedded.dev
Nov 01 22:02:49 <tzanger> that's where I pulled it
Nov 01 22:02:52 <tzanger> that can't be good
Nov 01 22:02:53 <khem> ka6sox-work: I am pounding on it atm 
Nov 01 22:02:56 <tzanger> dammit, I can't believe I missed that
Nov 01 22:03:02 <tzanger> I'm going to blow this away and pull from OE
Nov 01 22:03:02 <ka6sox-work> khem, okay then I'll wait.
Nov 01 22:03:03 <khem> ka6sox-work: but should not be an issue
Nov 01 22:03:04 <tzanger> I am terribly sorry
Nov 01 22:03:09 <ericben> tzanger: grep url .git/config
Nov 01 22:03:10 <khem> ka6sox-work: no dont wait 
Nov 01 22:03:11 <tzanger> that was a significant brainfart
Nov 01 22:03:21 <khem> ka6sox-work: lets do a minimal-image first
Nov 01 22:03:26 <ka6sox-work> khem, okay will kick it off when I get back from my short.
Nov 01 22:03:35 <khem> ka6sox-work: cool. 
Nov 01 22:03:38 <ka6sox-work> khem, okay I'll crank that into the makefile
Nov 01 22:03:50 <khem> tzanger: I heard it ... 
Nov 01 22:04:05 <khem> ka6sox-work: yeah that will finish quickly too
Nov 01 22:04:11 <ericben> git remote add realoe git://git.openembedded.org/openembedded
Nov 01 22:04:11 <khem> so we know if it goes well
Nov 01 22:04:12 <tzanger> khem: sorry about the smell
Nov 01 22:04:13 <tzanger> I'll open a window
Nov 01 22:04:15 <ka6sox-work> khem, oh, using the generic bitbake the script doesn't know what the actual name of the tgz file will be for bitbake.
Nov 01 22:04:27 <tzanger> ericben: was that for me?
Nov 01 22:04:32 <ericben> tzanger: yes
Nov 01 22:04:34 <ka6sox-work> so it isn't untarring it.
Nov 01 22:04:39 <ericben> that adds a remote branch to your tree
Nov 01 22:04:46 <ericben> then you can fetch from this branch
Nov 01 22:05:00 <ericben> and with git fetch -t you will have the tags
Nov 01 22:05:12 <ericben> (at least you should have them ;-)
Nov 01 22:05:23 <tzanger> ericben: yeah, catting .git/config shows that the gitorious link isn't super bad, but all the same I'd rather keep it righ tform the horse's mouth, so to speak
Nov 01 22:05:49 <tzanger> ericben: ok, that added a "realoe" to my .git/config
Nov 01 22:06:10 <ericben> tzanger: yes and now git fetch realoe
Nov 01 22:06:20 <ericben> and git branch -r wil lshow oe's main server' branches
Nov 01 22:06:26 <ericben> git fetch -t realoe sorry
Nov 01 22:07:15 <ericben> and then you can play with git. But if overo's branch is not based on a recent OE, you will have difficulties to merge/rebase it
Nov 01 22:07:57 <tzanger> yeah I see a ton of tags now :-)
Nov 01 22:07:59 <tzanger> thank you
Nov 01 22:08:52 <tzanger> tested_2010-10-25 sounds tasty.
Nov 01 22:08:55 <angelox_123> Hi
Nov 01 22:09:21 <angelox_123> i'm trying compile fluxbox with a edited-minimal-distro(only changed name) and it don't compile
Nov 01 22:09:24 <angelox_123> need a file named:
Nov 01 22:09:37 <angelox_123> | ImageImlib2.cc:27:21: fatal error: X11/xpm.h: No such file or directory
Nov 01 22:09:51 <ericben> angelox_123: why do you need to create your distro ?
Nov 01 22:10:21 <ericben> "only changed name" : but did you also change all the overides concerning the distro you renamed ?
Nov 01 22:10:42 <angelox_123> i changed everything on file and his name
Nov 01 22:10:51 <angelox_123> compile successfully the things
Nov 01 22:11:18 <angelox_123> i'm in a project to create a new operational system for mobile devices...
Nov 01 22:11:27 <angelox_123> i get minimal distro to start
Nov 01 22:11:34 <angelox_123> later i'll edit more things...
Nov 01 22:11:41 <angelox_123> but at this time
Nov 01 22:11:46 <angelox_123> i only need xpm.h :)
Nov 01 22:12:07 <ericben> angelox_123: I can help you I haven't yet digged that much in distro
Nov 01 22:12:14 <ericben> but bitbake libxpm could help you
Nov 01 22:12:22 <angelox_123> thank'you
Nov 01 22:12:23 <angelox_123> :)
Nov 01 22:12:26 <angelox_123> i'll try that
Nov 01 22:17:30 <khem> ericben: angelox_123 dont do that
Nov 01 22:17:39 <khem> first find out which DEPENDS is missing
Nov 01 22:17:58 <khem> what ericben suggested will work but that will hide the real problem
Nov 01 22:17:59 <ant_> hi khem 
Nov 01 22:18:05 <khem> so which package is failing
Nov 01 22:18:09 <angelox_123> khem: i understand
Nov 01 22:18:10 <ant_> seems indeed header is in  staging-libxpm-armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi_3.5.8-r9.0_armv5te-linux-gnueabi.ipk  
Nov 01 22:18:11 <khem> ant_: saluti
Nov 01 22:18:24 <angelox_123> we'll can create a patch later...
Nov 01 22:18:31 * khem has watched an Italian documentary over weekend 
Nov 01 22:18:59 <ant_> he, I hope about the 60'
Nov 01 22:19:07 <khem> angelox_123: which package fails to build with this error
Nov 01 22:19:10 <ant_> Dolce Vita, lounge style
Nov 01 22:19:22 <khem> ant_: no it was on Da Vinci
Nov 01 22:19:24 <angelox_123> khem: Fluxbox
Nov 01 22:19:44 <ericben> khem: seems fluxbox is missing libxpm in DEPENDS
Nov 01 22:19:58 <khem> ericben: yep that should be the right fix
Nov 01 22:20:08 <angelox_123> i'm building libxpm i don't need stop isn't?
Nov 01 22:20:15 <ericben> angelox_123: you can stop it
Nov 01 22:20:17 <khem> angelox_123: yes you should
Nov 01 22:20:19 <ericben> then bitbake libxpm -c clean
Nov 01 22:20:25 <khem> angelox_123: you should even clean it
Nov 01 22:20:30 <khem> there you go
Nov 01 22:20:31 <ericben> then add libxpm to DEPENDS
Nov 01 22:20:37 <ericben> and then bitbake fluxbox
Nov 01 22:20:44 <ericben> and it that solve the problem => send a patch ;è)
Nov 01 22:20:47 <ericben> ;-)
Nov 01 22:20:53 <ant_> I'm retrying to reproduce here
Nov 01 22:20:59 <khem> that was french smily
Nov 01 22:21:26 <ericben> khem: that was my fingers which are to big for the keyboard :-D
Nov 01 22:21:40 <angelox_123> hehehe
Nov 01 22:21:54 <angelox_123> this is a funny channel
Nov 01 22:22:12 <khem> heh yes sometimes my son also types with me so I also type gibberish 
Nov 01 22:22:22 * angelox_123 thinks the topic are: Fix your Problems,and be happy
Nov 01 22:22:48 <angelox_123> Jrççp
Nov 01 22:22:53 <angelox_123> anybody can undestand that:
Nov 01 22:22:55 <angelox_123> Jrççp
Nov 01 22:22:56 <angelox_123> ?
Nov 01 22:22:58 <RobotGuy> My kitty sometimes types with me, so I type gibberish too.
Nov 01 22:22:59 <angelox_123> it's simple
Nov 01 22:23:30 <ant_> hello bluelightning 
Nov 01 22:23:40 <angelox_123> Hi bluelightning
Nov 01 22:23:50 <bluelightning> hi all
Nov 01 22:23:53 <khem> RobotGuy: kitty reminds me of the one that has fallen in love with my son and now sits on my porch all the time but my wife does not like cats so she is not getting entry visa into house
Nov 01 22:23:59 <khem> bluelightning: hey 
Nov 01 22:24:02 * angelox_123 think that more users from here are itallians,i'd like be...
Nov 01 22:24:11 <angelox_123> s/i'd/he'd/
Nov 01 22:24:24 <RobotGuy> khem: Poor kitty
Nov 01 22:24:54 <khem> bluelightning: whats new on opie
Nov 01 22:25:03 <khem> bluelightning: is the new release coming soon ?
Nov 01 22:25:16 <bluelightning> khem: yes I hope to sort it out very soon
Nov 01 22:25:23 <khem> bluelightning: cool
Nov 01 22:25:25 <bluelightning> just some translation fixes left now I think
Nov 01 22:25:42 <khem> right now with gcc 4.5 lot of opie packages fails with c++ compile time issues 
Nov 01 22:25:57 <florian> angelox_123: i can confirm xextproto builds for armv5te too
Nov 01 22:26:03 <khem> I did not fix them as I am waiting for you to bump the versions once the release happens
Nov 01 22:26:16 <angelox_123> florian: Compiled here too,with my distro
Nov 01 22:26:27 <angelox_123> florian: my distro i mean minimal edited
Nov 01 22:26:46 <angelox_123> florian: Thanks anyway :)
Nov 01 22:27:02 <khem> bluelightning: so I will keep half eye on the release
Nov 01 22:27:18 <florian> angelox_123: yw
Nov 01 22:27:32 <khem> florian: are we going to add some thanks notes to donors ?
Nov 01 22:27:44 <bluelightning> khem: really? hmm, I will look into that
Nov 01 22:27:49 <florian> khem: yes
Nov 01 22:27:55 <khem> florian: I have an well known multinational that is willing to donate 
Nov 01 22:27:57 <ant_> khem, angelox_123 : here fluxbox built just fine
Nov 01 22:28:12 <khem> florian: but I still need to force them a bit
Nov 01 22:28:18 <florian> khem: oh cool... 
Nov 01 22:28:21 <angelox_123> khem: At the file fluxbox_1.1.1.bb don't have any parameter named DEPENDS
Nov 01 22:28:43 <ericben> angelox_123: DEPENDS = "fontconfig virtual/libx11"
Nov 01 22:28:50 <ericben> 4th line
Nov 01 22:28:52 <florian> khem: stefan is working on it
Nov 01 22:28:57 <khem> angelox_123: just add DEPENDS += "bla bla"
Nov 01 22:28:59 <angelox_123> lol
Nov 01 22:29:02 <angelox_123> i didn't see
Nov 01 22:29:13 <khem> florian: cool let me know and I can sort of point to the link on the page 
Nov 01 22:29:14 <angelox_123> sorry :(
Nov 01 22:29:18 <khem> so they feel honored
Nov 01 22:29:30 <florian> khem: okay, will do
Nov 01 22:29:44 * khem can be good begger
Nov 01 22:30:20 <khem> bluelightning: I have not posted the results to tinderbox so point you to them as this box 
Nov 01 22:30:31 <khem> can not talk to internet so freely
Nov 01 22:30:42 <khem> its sort of one way traffic
Nov 01 22:31:06 <ericben> who is the admin of the lists's server ?
Nov 01 22:31:07 <khem> bluelightning: but I would suggest that you use gcc 4.5 for testing out the new recipes
Nov 01 22:31:23 <khem> bluelightning: you will get it if you use angstrom-2010 
Nov 01 22:31:28 <ant_> florian: who is killing ltg right now? Android band?
Nov 01 22:31:29 <bluelightning> khem: ok, will try that
Nov 01 22:31:33 <khem> ericben: what happened
Nov 01 22:31:42 <ericben> khem: lists seems down
Nov 01 22:31:44 <khem> bluelightning: thx
Nov 01 22:32:00 <khem> bluelightning: and nuke the old recipes so no one uses them 
Nov 01 22:32:16 <angelox_123> people:
Nov 01 22:32:28 <angelox_123>  What you think about Android ?
Nov 01 22:32:33 <angelox_123> like it?
Nov 01 22:32:35 <angelox_123> hate it?
Nov 01 22:32:49 <ant_> khem, bluelightning, btw, about legacy-staging
Nov 01 22:32:49 <khem> angelox_123: ask it on android channel
Nov 01 22:33:01 <ant_> just 3 recipes here:
Nov 01 22:33:11 <khem> here people are as gandhi said indifferent
Nov 01 22:33:17 <angelox_123> khem: i mean,if the openembedded users like it
Nov 01 22:33:32 <khem> ant_: fix them
Nov 01 22:33:52 <ant_> qte/qte-mt_2.3.10.bb libopie/libopie2_1.2.4. and xorg-proto/xextproto-70-includes_7.0.5.bb
Nov 01 22:34:10 <ant_> first two are opie, last one is x11
Nov 01 22:34:18 <khem> ant_: I gues bluelightning will upgrade libopie/libopie2_1.2.4. soon
Nov 01 22:34:34 <ka6sox-work> ericben, the MLs?
Nov 01 22:34:34 <khem> qte/qte-mt_2.3.10.bb belongs to opie too ?
Nov 01 22:35:12 <bluelightning> khem: technically yes, well nothing else uses it
Nov 01 22:35:18 <khem> ka6sox-work: we need to run mailman like gcc or binutils mailing lists
Nov 01 22:35:19 <bluelightning> I'm supposed to maintain it :)
Nov 01 22:35:36 <khem> bluelightning: so you got another thing to fix 
Nov 01 22:35:39 <khem> :)
Nov 01 22:35:44 <bluelightning> khem: apparently so :)
Nov 01 22:36:12 <khem> I would like to have a QT based GUI demo
Nov 01 22:36:19 <ant_> khem, e.g. qte recipe have STAGING_DIR_HOST var
Nov 01 22:36:22 <khem> eye popping one
Nov 01 22:36:32 <ericben> khem: you have qtdemo
Nov 01 22:37:12 <florian> ant_: a full disk
Nov 01 22:37:35 <khem> ericben: do we have image for that ?
Nov 01 22:37:37 <ant_> oh, just this? :p
Nov 01 22:37:55 <ericben> khem: I have one if you want
Nov 01 22:38:07 <khem> ericben: why wont you contribute that
Nov 01 22:38:13 <khem> :)
Nov 01 22:39:03 <ericben> khem: in fact OI have a qt-image which adds the libraries to micro image if I remember well and a qtdemo-image which adds qtdemo + a init script to launch it at boot after touch calibration
Nov 01 22:39:21 <ericben> if this is of intereset I can push both images
Nov 01 22:40:02 <ericben> and in the qtdemo image, there are also the qwt examples
Nov 01 22:40:37 <ericben> thanks florian  the mailing list is up again
Nov 01 22:40:42 <angelox_123> is?
Nov 01 22:41:33 <khem> ericben: sure
Nov 01 22:41:50 <angelox_123> that's a good new...i'll subscribe
Nov 01 22:41:54 <ericben> khem: ok will do tomorrow I think
Nov 01 22:44:20 <florian> ericben: yep
Nov 01 22:47:21 <khem> florian: is it possible to add a possiblity to view raw format for messages in mailman
Nov 01 22:47:44 <khem> florian: and also store the monthly messages in a mbox archive 
Nov 01 22:48:01 <khem> so I can download one and reply to a message from previous month or so
Nov 01 22:48:12 <Jay7> And I wish to have link to archived copy in every letter
Nov 01 22:49:01 <florian> khem: no idea... i'm not good at mailman things. but i'll take a look in a free minute
Nov 01 22:49:03 <Jay7> but, seems mailman have no such option 'out-of-the-box'
Nov 01 22:49:08 <angelox_123> compiled here fluxbox thanks
Nov 01 22:49:15 <angelox_123> thank you khem !
Nov 01 22:50:03 <khem> angelox_123: Prego !
Nov 01 22:50:53 <angelox_123> khem: Prego ?
Nov 01 22:51:05 <angelox_123> what's that?
Nov 01 22:51:42 <khem> hmm italian pizza may be :)
Nov 01 22:51:55 <angelox_123> hahaha
Nov 01 22:51:57 <angelox_123> :)
Nov 01 22:52:15 <angelox_123> most of users in this channel are itallians
Nov 01 22:52:45 <ant_> angelox_123: not really ;)
Nov 01 22:53:06 <Jay7> I'm sure most part are from US :)
Nov 01 22:55:09 <khem> most are from .eu
Nov 01 22:55:14 <khem> few from .us
Nov 01 22:55:54 <angelox_123> Some that i know,are from italy...e.g: ao2
Nov 01 23:15:30 <CIA-4> 03Tom Rini <tom_rini@mentor.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r4a001e542a 10openembedded.git/recipes/gzip/gzip_1.4.bb: 
Nov 01 23:15:30 <CIA-4> gzip: Fix update-alternatives
Nov 01 23:15:30 <CIA-4> The rename was being done correctly in do_install (for just pn-gzip)
Nov 01 23:15:30 <CIA-4> so remove a bad attempted rename in the postinst and suffix that and
Nov 01 23:15:30 <CIA-4> prerm with pn-gzip while we're in here.
Nov 01 23:18:41 <Jay7> http://tosa.lumag.spb.ru/news/23/55/Second-tosa-device.html
Nov 01 23:18:51 <Jay7> lumag have recieved tosa :)
Nov 01 23:29:44 <ericben> good night
Nov 01 23:31:06 <khem> Jay7: I heard russia is developing its rival for windoze based on lnx
Nov 01 23:31:18 <Jay7> hehe..
Nov 01 23:31:20 <khem> I mean russian govt is backing it
Nov 01 23:31:37 <Jay7> khem: there are some talks about 'national OS'
Nov 01 23:32:20 <Jay7> nothing serious, I'm sure
Nov 01 23:32:43 <Jay7> some people will receive money from national budget
Nov 01 23:32:52 <Jay7> some people - from microsoft
Nov 01 23:33:00 <Jay7> and all they will be happy
Nov 01 23:33:10 <florian> heh
Nov 01 23:33:14 <Jay7> and nothing changes :)
Nov 01 23:38:24 <Jay7> I've added bottom caption to wiki Testing table
Nov 01 23:40:42 <LexsZero> gcc-cross-initial → eglibc-initial → gcc-cross-intermediate → eglibc → gcc-cross. semi-circular-dependencies, nice :3
Nov 01 23:45:15 <Jay7> mediawiki's tables syntax is really scary
Nov 01 23:53:15 <gregoiregentil> Has anyone worked on clutter_1.4.bb?
Nov 01 23:58:08 <ant_> good night
Nov 02 00:58:12 <CIA-4> 03Angelo S. Mavridis Bartolome <angelo@pynell.com> 07org.openembedded.dev * r7c9258f655 10openembedded.git/conf/distro/metano.conf: 
Nov 02 00:58:12 <CIA-4> add metano linux distribution
Nov 02 00:58:12 <CIA-4> Signed-off-by: Angelo S. Mavridis Bartolome <angelo@pynell.com>
Nov 02 01:42:20 <angelox_123> Goodybye
Nov 02 02:46:00 <mrj10> anyone build qt4-x11-free-gles?
Nov 02 02:46:51 <mrj10> just wondering what the latest known-good version is.  i'm trying to build 4.6.3, and the commit message says that Koen only tested it up through do_patch, and sure enough it fails right near the end of do_compile (link errors) :P
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