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Feb 18 11:18:35 <woglinde> hi
Feb 18 11:18:44 <woglinde> what was the policy for oe.dev now?
Feb 18 11:18:50 <woglinde> still patch reviewing?
Feb 18 13:30:59 <otwieracz> Hello.
Feb 18 13:35:50 <woglinde_> hi
Feb 18 13:42:18 <CMoH-notebook> hello. what is the difference and purposes of PRINC and INC_PR ?
Feb 18 13:44:33 <CMoH-notebook> i found something on inc_pr, though i'm not sure which one to use in .bbappend
Feb 18 13:48:25 <CMoH-notebook> nevermind; seems princ works
Feb 18 13:52:43 <Jin^eLD> CMoH-notebook: PRINC is used in .bbappend files and automatically increments that PR of the main .bb
Feb 18 13:53:12 <CMoH-notebook> ty
Feb 18 13:53:43 <Jin^eLD> INC_PR is used in packages that "included" files, i.e if a.bb has an include bla.inc then often the overall PR is setup as PR = "r1.${INC_PR}" so that it is possible to track changes in the .inc independent of the .bb
Feb 18 15:40:02 <rlrosa> hi
Feb 18 15:40:23 <rlrosa> i'm trying to build a console-image
Feb 18 15:40:32 <rlrosa> failing to get libgpg-error-1.10-r1
Feb 18 15:40:45 <rlrosa> any tips on how to point oe to another repo?
Feb 18 15:47:39 <Grackle> oops I don't know if that sent
Feb 18 15:47:45 <Grackle> rlrosa: look at the recipe file. The mirror might be in the recipe, in a .inc file (you'll see where it gets included in the recipe), or possibly the mirror is defined as a variable in conf/bitbake.conf
Feb 18 15:49:36 <Grackle> yeah you can modify SRC_URI in openembedded/recipes/libgpg-error/libgpg-error.inc
Feb 18 16:14:10 <rlrosa> Grackle, i update my oe and it seems to be making progress, though it way be working on other packages and eventually get stuck again. i did not find the file you metioned, nor something similar. i have the lastest oe, i think the things you mention are from the previous layout
Feb 18 16:18:24 <rlrosa> seems like everything that used to be in $OEBASE/openembedded is now in /sources/openembedded-core/meta/
Feb 18 16:19:10 <Grackle> hmm
Feb 18 16:19:31 <Grackle> I just started two days ago. I'm using the master branch, but maybe I should be using something else.
Feb 18 16:23:21 <woglinde_> rlrosa oe-core is much diffrent from oe-classic
Feb 18 16:24:24 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i'm trying to understand oe-core using the doc from oe-classic, that's why i mentioned the directory mapping thing
Feb 18 16:25:12 <woglinde_> for oe-core use the setup-scripts from angstroem and do your stuff from there
Feb 18 16:25:55 <rlrosa> i have setup-scripts, but i need to edit stuff, and i don't know how to, so i'm reading the doc i found, which is for classic
Feb 18 16:26:01 <woglinde_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Feb 18 16:26:07 <woglinde_> ah okay
Feb 18 16:26:12 <woglinde_> in sources
Feb 18 16:26:21 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i'm kind of lost, so i want to study this a bit
Feb 18 16:26:49 <woglinde_> hi flo_lap
Feb 18 16:26:58 <woglinde_> rlrosa what you want to edit?
Feb 18 16:27:23 <Grackle> re: setup-scripts... I started that way but without really knowing what it was doing (because I'm new to oe), it made following vanilla oe documentation difficult.
Feb 18 16:28:10 <rlrosa> i want to change pin muxing in u-boot in my beagleboard, change i2c clock speed on i2c-2, and disable everything i do not intendo to use, such as bluetooth, etc
Feb 18 16:28:23 <woglinde_> ah okay
Feb 18 16:28:34 <woglinde_> go to sources/meta-ti
Feb 18 16:28:41 <woglinde_> there the uboot recipe resides
Feb 18 16:28:58 <woglinde_> another trick is to do bitbake -c devshell u-boot
Feb 18 16:29:07 <woglinde_> this gets you into the buildir
Feb 18 16:29:21 <woglinde_> than we use mostly quilt to apply patches
Feb 18 16:29:29 <woglinde_> when you add new patches
Feb 18 16:29:37 <woglinde_> you will have to copy them back to the sources
Feb 18 16:29:43 <woglinde_> and add them into the recipe
Feb 18 16:29:48 <woglinde_> that is not hard
Feb 18 16:32:37 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i found the u-boot recipe, but i don't see the source files. will bitbake pull from git everytime i ask it to compile u-boot?
Feb 18 16:32:53 <woglinde_> yes
Feb 18 16:32:57 <woglinde_> thats the way
Feb 18 16:33:12 <woglinde_> thats why I mentioned bitbake -c devshell uboot or u-boot
Feb 18 16:33:41 <rlrosa> oh ok, i'll try that (right now i'm running bitbake console-base-image, i think it'll get angry if i try to do stuff)
Feb 18 16:33:56 <woglinde_> ???
Feb 18 16:34:09 <flo_lap> hi woglinde_ 
Feb 18 16:34:54 <rlrosa> woglinde_, it got mad when i tried to run 2 instances of bitbake, i assumed it would be like this either jej
Feb 18 16:35:29 <woglinde_> it should work
Feb 18 16:35:44 <woglinde_> at least when u-boot is already build by the oter
Feb 18 16:37:18 <rlrosa> it said "ERROR: Only one copy of bitbake should be run against a build directory"
Feb 18 16:37:38 <rlrosa> will it find stuff if i switch to another build dir?
Feb 18 16:37:58 <woglinde_> go to another
Feb 18 16:37:59 <woglinde_> dir
Feb 18 16:38:03 <woglinde_> your homedir
Feb 18 16:38:07 <woglinde_> and try from there
Feb 18 16:39:51 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i think i should modify $OE_BUILD_TMPDIR, is this correct?
Feb 18 16:40:18 <woglinde_> hm or maybee you have to wait until console-image is done
Feb 18 16:40:26 <woglinde_> or interrupte console-image
Feb 18 16:40:31 <woglinde_> and edit uboot now
Feb 18 16:42:09 <Grackle> yay freedesktop.org is back up!
Feb 18 16:44:17 <woglinde_> hehe
Feb 18 16:44:21 <woglinde_> was it down?
Feb 18 16:45:35 <woglinde_> lol
Feb 18 16:45:36 <woglinde_> https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/HardFloat/Benchmarks
Feb 18 16:45:40 <woglinde_> as it shows
Feb 18 16:45:47 <woglinde_> softp vs. hardfp
Feb 18 16:45:53 <woglinde_> only when you use povray
Feb 18 16:46:04 <Grackle> Yeah, one of the servers was down last night. It happened right after I got a working configuration. Things were going along nicely and then I couldn't get any packages. :X
Feb 18 16:46:11 <woglinde_> ups
Feb 18 17:17:36 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i canceled the console-image, and ran bitbake -c devshell u-boot
Feb 18 17:17:57 <rlrosa> woglinde_, seems to be stuck at NOTE: package u-boot-2011.12-r4: task do_devshell: Started
Feb 18 17:18:06 <woglinde_> hm
Feb 18 17:18:13 <rlrosa> is this were i'm supposed to edit stuff?
Feb 18 17:18:15 <woglinde_> a new terminal should start up
Feb 18 17:18:26 <woglinde_> then you are in the build dir
Feb 18 17:18:30 <woglinde_> with the sources
Feb 18 17:18:38 <woglinde_> maybee install gnome-termnial
Feb 18 17:19:31 <rlrosa> woglinde_, i have gnome-terminal, maybe it's not happy because i'm running stuff within guake
Feb 18 17:19:50 <rlrosa> i think i found the terminal
Feb 18 17:19:51 <rlrosa> jej
Feb 18 17:19:53 <woglinde_> hm maybee
Feb 18 17:19:56 <rlrosa> i have too much stuff open
Feb 18 17:19:59 <rlrosa> XD
Feb 18 17:20:01 <woglinde_> lol
Feb 18 17:20:18 <woglinde_> use a tabbed terminal for shells
Feb 18 17:20:24 <woglinde_> makes life easier
Feb 18 17:20:30 <rlrosa> great so now i'll change whatever, then create a patch with git, and save the patch for next time?
Feb 18 17:21:32 <woglinde_> or you use quilt
Feb 18 17:21:34 <woglinde_> mom
Feb 18 17:21:41 <woglinde_> I will give you an article
Feb 18 17:22:21 <rlrosa> woglinde_, great
Feb 18 17:22:52 <woglinde_> a bit older
Feb 18 17:23:00 <woglinde_> but that workflow didnt change
Feb 18 17:23:02 <woglinde_> http://bec-systems.com/site/456/capture-oe-source-changes
Feb 18 17:26:58 <rlrosa> woglinde_, great! i'll dig into this. maybe in a while i'll ask again if i get stuck with the i2c speed
Feb 18 17:27:09 <rlrosa> woglinde_, thank you very much for the kickstart :)
Feb 18 17:28:06 <woglinde_> hm
Feb 18 17:28:16 <woglinde_> I dont know this much about i2c
Feb 18 17:28:26 <woglinde_> only you have adresses and can send commands
Feb 18 17:28:34 <woglinde_> and recieve something
Feb 18 17:28:43 <woglinde_> as on very other bus system
Feb 18 17:33:11 <rlrosa> woglinde_, where can i find u-boot after it was built?
Feb 18 17:33:36 <woglinde_> in the deploy-dir
Feb 18 17:34:04 <woglinde_> in sources-script/build/tmp-foo/deploy/images
Feb 18 17:35:17 <rlrosa> but after devshell i have to bitbake u-boot, rigth?
Feb 18 17:36:38 <woglinde_> depends what you want to do after you edited the sources
Feb 18 17:37:04 <woglinde_> be ware when you have rm_work(thats default now) all source changes get lost
Feb 18 17:37:12 <woglinde_> after finishing bitbake
Feb 18 17:37:42 <woglinde_> for compile test you can use the ./temp/run.do_compile script which each build-dir has
Feb 18 17:38:12 <rlrosa> woglinde_, my bad, its in the doc you gave me. i'll read from there. thanks! :)
Feb 18 18:07:58 <khem> woglinde_: howdy
Feb 18 18:08:29 <woglinde_> he khem
Feb 18 18:08:50 <woglinde_> khem conferences over?
Feb 18 18:08:59 <woglinde_> when will you be in europe?
Feb 18 18:09:18 <khem> woglinde_: yes
Feb 18 18:09:52 <khem> woglinde_: when i will have money to travel there 
Feb 18 18:10:05 <khem> it expensive if you pay out of pocket
Feb 18 18:10:27 <khem> so I would plan a vacation alongside once 
Feb 18 18:10:33 <khem> and that should work
Feb 18 18:11:03 <woglinde_> let you employer pay
Feb 18 18:11:41 <khem> yes they dont use lnx at work :) so its a hard sell
Feb 18 18:12:03 <woglinde_> hm hm
Feb 18 18:12:35 <khem> btw koen mentioned there was some issue with llvm u had
Feb 18 18:12:51 <khem> on arm
Feb 18 18:13:26 <khem> is java hunky dory now
Feb 18 18:13:30 <woglinde_> khem forget llvm
Feb 18 18:13:39 <khem> heh
Feb 18 18:13:44 <woglinde_> shark will be activated when the new llvm elf arch is through
Feb 18 18:13:47 <woglinde_> again
Feb 18 18:13:54 <woglinde_> its disabled since 1.11 release
Feb 18 18:14:04 <woglinde_> of icedtea
Feb 18 18:14:16 <khem> hmm 
Feb 18 18:14:25 <woglinde_> now thumbee stuff works jamvm and cacao to as vm
Feb 18 18:14:44 <khem> i see
Feb 18 18:14:47 <woglinde_> khem do you know whats the policy for classic dev now?
Feb 18 18:14:53 <woglinde_> still review an ml?
Feb 18 18:15:08 <woglinde_> oh lol
Feb 18 18:15:16 <khem> woglinde_: heh
Feb 18 18:15:26 <woglinde_> I looked at your linked in profile I am 8 month older
Feb 18 18:15:31 <khem> its more or less done with now
Feb 18 18:15:41 <khem> heh
Feb 18 18:15:44 <woglinde_> khem uhm what have you done?
Feb 18 18:16:12 <khem> my dob is 9876
Feb 18 18:16:30 <khem> dd.mm.yy
Feb 18 18:16:31 <woglinde_> o.O
Feb 18 18:16:36 <woglinde_> yes
Feb 18 18:16:41 <woglinde_> I see it
Feb 18 18:16:46 <woglinde_> on the profile
Feb 18 18:16:52 <woglinde_> you dont have to mentioned it here
Feb 18 18:16:53 <khem> easy to remeber
Feb 18 18:17:04 <woglinde_> now everybody knows how old I am
Feb 18 18:17:07 <khem> oh i see
Feb 18 18:17:37 <khem> heh i dont care now that i have 2 screaming kids around
Feb 18 18:17:48 <woglinde_> okay I am not worry to much about it
Feb 18 18:17:53 <khem> people can call me 60 or 20 doesnt matter
Feb 18 18:19:24 <khem> how is winter in germany
Feb 18 18:19:24 <woglinde_> anyway
Feb 18 18:19:31 <woglinde_> what did you made on llvm?
Feb 18 18:19:45 <woglinde_> khem we had snome the last 3 weeks
Feb 18 18:19:50 <woglinde_> and it was freezy
Feb 18 18:19:57 <khem> i am looking at it for a static compiler
Feb 18 18:20:04 <woglinde_> but now its around 6 degrees
Feb 18 18:20:25 <woglinde_> args
Feb 18 18:20:29 <khem> here no snow this year not enough rain even
Feb 18 18:20:31 <woglinde_> you meant classic dev
Feb 18 18:20:38 <woglinde_> hms
Feb 18 18:20:40 <woglinde_> okay
Feb 18 18:20:41 <khem> ok so explain a bit on llvm issue
Feb 18 18:20:55 <woglinde_> xrandby looked at it
Feb 18 18:20:59 <khem> yes classic dev replace gcc with llvm e.g.
Feb 18 18:21:12 <woglinde_> as I said we have to wait fro new elf arch inside llvm
Feb 18 18:21:22 <woglinde_> otherwise It makes no sense to work on it
Feb 18 18:21:35 <khem> hmm new in what sense
Feb 18 18:21:54 <khem> they do support elf obj format 
Feb 18 18:21:55 <woglinde_> mom
Feb 18 18:22:17 <woglinde_> yeah but since 3.0 release they work on new architecture inside
Feb 18 18:22:20 <woglinde_> to handel elf
Feb 18 18:23:04 <khem> in jvm ?
Feb 18 18:23:10 <woglinde_> can you access https://github.com/woglinde/meta-java/issues/10 ?
Feb 18 18:23:19 <woglinde_> both
Feb 18 18:23:42 <woglinde_> first elf architecure inside llvm for arm has do work
Feb 18 18:23:51 <woglinde_> than shark stuff inside openjdk/icedtea
Feb 18 18:24:35 <woglinde_> okay
Feb 18 18:24:51 <woglinde_> have to get my son from some of his friend 
Feb 18 18:33:19 <khem> woglinde_: ok I see it 
Feb 18 18:33:52 <khem> woglinde_: but movt reg is not valid instr
Feb 18 18:34:11 <khem> so llvm is correct there
Feb 18 18:50:34 <Grackle> d'oh oe is big
Feb 18 18:50:43 <Grackle> I am using my friend's server and I ran out of disk space
Feb 18 18:51:05 <Grackle> luckily I had some other stuff that I could delete, but .... :X
Feb 18 19:08:40 <Grackle> NOTE: package udev-171-r2: task Unknown fetch Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/alex/oe/build/tmp/downloads/git/git.kernel.org.pub.scm.linux.hotplug.udev.git': Failed
Feb 18 19:08:52 <Grackle> Hmm, what just happened there?
Feb 18 19:09:09 <otwieracz> Hello.
Feb 18 19:09:24 <otwieracz> I'm trying to write bitbake reciepe for python-bsddb3
Feb 18 19:09:48 <otwieracz> Using distutils in target rootfs I'm receiving only python package .egg.
Feb 18 19:10:28 <otwieracz> http://wklej.org/hash/5c1bd3d4332/
Feb 18 19:10:33 <otwieracz> That's my reciepe.
Feb 18 19:28:11 <woglinde_> grackle remeber the kernel.org down
Feb 18 19:28:25 <woglinde_> so udev resides now on a nother server
Feb 18 19:28:32 <woglinde_> for download
Feb 18 19:29:59 <Grackle> oh I see, I thought it was a malformed URI or something. I enabled the angstrom-distribution.org mirror and it was able to download from there
Feb 18 19:30:22 <woglinde_> otwieracz where did you found DISTUTILS_BUILD_ARGS?
Feb 18 19:30:23 <Grackle> I had disabled it earlier because my connection to it is unbearably slow.
Feb 18 19:30:28 <woglinde_> why is it in your recipe?
Feb 18 19:30:47 <woglinde_> hm ah disutils
Feb 18 19:30:48 <woglinde_> okay
Feb 18 19:30:49 <woglinde_> sorry
Feb 18 19:30:51 <otwieracz> :)
Feb 18 19:31:30 <woglinde_> hm what is in log.do_install?
Feb 18 19:32:11 <otwieracz> Is it possible that setuptools instead of distutils will solve this problem?
Feb 18 19:32:27 <woglinde_> sorry dont know bsddb3
Feb 18 19:32:40 <woglinde_> and dont have the mood to look into the source
Feb 18 19:32:44 <woglinde_> just try it
Feb 18 19:33:24 <otwieracz> Yes, I already tried setuptools and now I have those files, but I have to run bitbake python-bsddb3 -c clean before creating image.
Feb 18 22:13:11 <rlrosa> what is "PR variable" and how do i "incremente" it?
Feb 18 22:15:23 <rlrosa> found it! :)
Feb 18 22:27:35 <woglinde_> hehe
Feb 18 22:27:37 <woglinde_> good
Feb 18 22:28:00 <woglinde_> sometimes we have INC_PR
Feb 18 22:28:06 <woglinde_> for .inc files
Feb 18 23:20:59 <rlrosa> is there anyway to "backtrace" a task in oe? i want to know who called base-passwd_3.5.22.bb and gmp_5.0.3.bb, can't seem to fetch them ,and that's stopping the build
Feb 18 23:21:54 <rlrosa> i set up 4 threads, and i can build stuff, but 2 threads are stuck at those recipes
Feb 19 00:13:54 <RP__> rlrosa: bitbake xxx -g and look at task-depends.dot or bitbake xxx -u depexp -g
Feb 19 00:15:16 <rlrosa> RP__, nice! thanks!
Feb 19 00:26:50 <rlrosa> i'm out for a while. thanks to everyone for all the help :)
Feb 19 02:49:55 <Grackle> The OE sanity checker complained that I moved my tmp directory, but it's in the same location... there's just some symlinkage now. Can I force it to continue? Is this going to cause my house to catch on fire?
Feb 19 02:56:21 <RP__> Grackle: You can force it by changing the sanity test files to match the new layout. Its hard to say if it will catch fire or not. Those checks were there for a reason, you might get lucky :)
Feb 19 02:56:41 * RP__ suspects if there is a symlink you might be ok
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