**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 12 02:59:58 2016 Aug 12 03:23:24 whats the best way to demonstrate embedded skills to get a job? much like web devs have a portfolio Aug 12 07:06:39 systemsgotyou: probably contributing to a well renowned project is a possible way. Aug 12 07:07:15 systemsgotyou: otherwise, just get solid coding and background skills, and then apply for a job. Aug 12 07:08:18 systemsgotyou: we're not really like artists (or webdevs :-P) who have to show off some fancy graphics, usually its more like a thorough interveiw process to evaluate your skill set. Aug 12 07:25:46 koen, I need your expertise. I updated my angstrom the other day to see if I can bring in new bits and systemd updated to 226. Everything worked except that systemd-notify does not work at all. Any ideas? Aug 12 07:28:15 I haven't noticed any systemd issues myself, what problems are you seeing with notify? Aug 12 07:30:18 It does nothing. Aug 12 07:30:32 I use commands like: systemd-notify --pid=1234 --ready Aug 12 07:30:45 systemd-notify --pid=1234 WATCHDOG=1 Aug 12 07:30:53 those commands just dont work Aug 12 07:31:03 adding incorrect PIDs also cause no error Aug 12 07:31:26 other than that everything works perfectly Aug 12 07:31:45 it could also be because I am running linux-fscl 4.4 Aug 12 07:32:21 Those commands cause no output and no errors Aug 12 07:32:33 and they used to work in 218 Aug 12 07:33:02 anyway... just fyi. I am switching back to 218 because I suspect this is a complicated issue... probably some dbus or cgroup thing who knows Aug 12 07:38:46 koen: One way you can test it yourself. Add WatchdogSec=5 to any systemd service's [Service] section and then manually pat it with 'systemd-notify --pid=1234 WATCHDOG=1' Aug 12 07:39:07 if systemd kills the program because there were no pats then something is up with 226 Aug 12 10:36:02 does anyone actually still use qt4-embedded? Aug 12 18:58:19 rburton: I just asked a question does anyone still use gcc 2.95 and there were few raised hands Aug 12 18:59:01 so just remove it Aug 12 18:59:08 and see who shouts back Aug 12 19:00:47 someone had problem with overlayfs and systemd? I'm trying to mount /etc with overlayfs but I'm having problem with machine-id Aug 12 19:44:34 khem: oh i hope you're joking Aug 12 20:31:53 rburton: I am not Aug 12 20:32:20 today you can have job security by being able to fix dead projects in their grave Aug 12 20:32:34 that much is true Aug 12 23:36:25 huh, https://attrs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ Aug 12 23:36:52 via https://glyph.twistedmatrix.com/2016/08/attrs.html Aug 13 02:51:17 kergoth: seems nice Aug 13 02:53:43 agreed. i'm not a big fan of extra deps, but that really does fill an obvious lack / does away with a clear and regular annoyance **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 13 02:59:59 2016