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Nov 11 09:00:17 <mort> how do you actually depend on a particular step such as do_deploy?
Nov 11 09:01:00 <mort> it doesn't work with DEPENDS, but IIRC there's some way to set targets as prerequisites for functions
Nov 11 09:01:22 <JaMa> do_foo[depends] += "bar.do_deploy"
Nov 11 09:01:27 <mort> aha
Nov 11 09:02:14 <JaMa> DEPENDS is kind of shortcut for do_configure[depends] += "deps.do_populate_sysroot"
Nov 11 09:03:27 <mort> I see
Nov 11 19:53:53 <gate32[m]> Hello. Anyone using BeagleBone Black here?
Nov 11 19:54:09 <gate32[m]> * Hello. Anyone using BeagleBone Black here?
Nov 11 20:15:00 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: depends, what is your actual question?
Nov 11 20:16:15 <gate32[m]> LetoThe2nd: I'm just failing to find any recent image to flash...
Nov 11 20:17:29 <gate32[m]> I want to make a web service on my BBB, but the latest available official debian image uses debian 9 from 2013 or 14
Nov 11 20:17:58 <gate32[m]> That's just scary to put on the server
Nov 11 20:18:41 <gate32[m]> Looking into building my own with buildroot, but I'm very limited on time with this project
Nov 11 20:22:29 <LetoThe2nd> if "I'm very time limited" means "I just want to copypaste 3 instructions and get what I want, then move on and not care anymore" then, well... OE might not be for you.
Nov 11 20:24:06 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: michaelo has written a neat quick start for the BBB, which is at https://bootlin.com/blog/yocto-project-quickest-instructions-to-generate-beaglebone-images/
Nov 11 20:25:47 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: plus, running OE and friends does not give you a package upstream. so if you care about exactly one device, and you expect something like "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" to keep it up to date, again... OE might not be for you.
Nov 11 20:26:55 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: OE shines when you need reproducible build, and when you want license tracing. when you have fleets of often thousands of devices, and maintain those over years and decades.
Nov 11 20:27:08 <LetoThe2nd> for a single maker board, not so much, sorry.
Nov 11 20:29:40 <gate32[m]> LetoThe2nd: thank you for a great answer! By OE do you mean this buildroot project? So Yocto would probably be a better fit?
Nov 11 20:30:17 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: I mean OpenEmbedded ... as you are in the OpenEmbedded channel.
Nov 11 20:30:49 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: and Yocto is what I meant by "and friends", it technically builds upon OE.
Nov 11 20:31:47 <gate32[m]> Sorry, I'm just kinda 5 minutes into it all...
Nov 11 20:32:25 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: :-)
Nov 11 20:33:16 <gate32[m]> And do I have any other simpler options than Yocto you might suggest?
Nov 11 20:34:18 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: from the UX, buildroot is already the simplest. and it is de facto also not suitable for your use case.
Nov 11 20:35:03 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: you can ask in #beagle, maybe somebody knows of a newer debian image. but thats essentially what you seem to want, as this sounds like a one-off-tinkering thing.
Nov 11 20:36:40 <gate32[m]> I just don't know the alternatives. Well, it's kind of a production thing, so I'm fine with building
Nov 11 20:37:57 <gate32[m]> <LetoThe2nd> "gate32: michaelo has written a..." <- Looks simple...)
Nov 11 20:39:03 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: ... it is but you have an image then without a webserver - and as I said, no package management nor package repositories.
Nov 11 20:39:03 <gate32[m]> But the repo is not found...
Nov 11 20:39:34 <gate32[m]> Right...
Nov 11 20:40:01 <gate32[m]> I've already asked in the beagle group, we'll see
Nov 11 20:41:47 <gate32[m]> Another complication might be that I actually want a completely free (libre) system there
Nov 11 20:42:04 <gate32[m]> * LetoThe2nd Another complication
Nov 11 20:44:11 <LetoThe2nd> gate32[m]: *shrug*
Nov 11 20:45:18 <gate32[m]> ;)
Nov 11 21:59:10 <gate32[m]> I've just found that I was looking in the wrong place on the official site. They have debian 9.9 from 2019 there. Hope it'll be fine updated for now
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