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Nov 02 08:57:23 <Spider-Pork> morning
Nov 02 19:07:11 * dilinger ponders whether to call the debian package for phonesim 'phonesim' or 'ofono-phonesim'
Nov 02 19:10:31 <denkenz> probably ofono-phonesim as it is doubtful any other project will use it
Nov 02 19:11:06 <dilinger> *nod*, thanks
Nov 02 20:50:53 <Spider-Pork> tmzt, i seen that nokia has (with trolltech) another set of gsm api
Nov 02 20:51:02 <Spider-Pork> under qt extended
Nov 02 20:51:52 <Spider-Pork> why they have two project for the same goal?
Nov 02 20:52:02 <Spider-Pork> one is better than the other?
Nov 02 20:56:18 <courmisch> qt is just an API
Nov 02 20:56:34 <courmisch> if the platform is oFono based, then Qt will just wrap oFono IMU
Nov 02 20:58:35 <Spider-Pork> so, i f i must use a gsm module, is better use glib with ofono than qt and qt telephony
Nov 02 21:06:34 <courmisch> If you're a g-integrist freetard, you write a gobject wrapper over oFono D-bus. If you're a Nokia henchman, you use Qt Mobility.
Nov 02 21:08:20 <courmisch> oFono is middleware with a DBus API. Qt Mobility is a C++ API. I see them complimentary rather than competing
Nov 02 21:08:20 <Spider-Pork> is not important for me if it is free or not, if is g-integrist or not. The important is that must works
Nov 02 21:08:52 <courmisch> well Qt Mobility is supposed to work on S60 and CE, I assume
Nov 02 21:09:39 <tmzt> Spider-Pork: that's an older attempt, some of which made it to ofono's gatchat I think
Nov 02 21:10:03 <courmisch> Qt Extended is discontinued yes. But I think Qt Mobility reintroduces some of that
Nov 02 21:10:06 <tmzt> you should talk to holtmann or denkenz 
Nov 02 21:11:23 <tmzt> hah, I'm just looking for a call initiation api/wrapper in telepathy, with in-call handling in a dedicated X application of whatever toolkit
Nov 02 21:11:23 <Spider-Pork> ok
Nov 02 21:12:03 <Spider-Pork> telepathy??!
Nov 02 21:12:09 <tmzt> I've got some kernel stuff to do before seriously fixing this modem driver again and working on that ui stuff for mer (with others)
Nov 02 21:12:16 <tmzt> freedesktop.org
Nov 02 21:16:34 <Spider-Pork> is not normal that a company like nokia has two project about the same goal
Nov 02 21:16:41 <Spider-Pork> one of these is out
Nov 02 21:17:55 <Spider-Pork> qt extended is out, (cit. courmisch), they done qt mobility, but is the same of qt extened 
Nov 02 21:18:08 <Spider-Pork> and they are working on ofono for maemo
Nov 02 21:18:22 <Spider-Pork> *extended
Nov 02 21:18:49 <Spider-Pork> i feel like shakespeare, qt or not qt
Nov 02 21:22:17 <denkenz> Spider-Pork: QtExtended has been deprecated, and QtMobility is not working on a telephony stack
Nov 02 21:22:19 <Spider-Pork> generally, when i can contact holtmann or denkenz?
Nov 02 21:22:28 <Spider-Pork> oh sorry
Nov 02 21:22:41 <Spider-Pork> my irc client not show to me the message
Nov 02 21:22:54 <Spider-Pork> denkenz, ok thank you
Nov 02 21:23:02 <Spider-Pork> so i think i will use glib plus ofono
Nov 02 21:24:28 <denkenz> Honestly Qt Dbus bindings are totally superior to glib, but both work
Nov 02 21:25:54 <Spider-Pork> ah ok
Nov 02 21:26:26 <Spider-Pork> so, maybe, 1 year past now qt mobile will be perfectly working
Nov 02 21:26:41 <Spider-Pork> today ofono and glib is a better choice
Nov 02 21:26:51 <denkenz> QtMobility has nothing to do with it
Nov 02 21:27:06 <denkenz> DBus bindings are part of Qt and are quite mature
Nov 02 21:28:02 <Spider-Pork> ok
Nov 02 21:28:47 <Spider-Pork> but i need the interface to gsm module, irc handling, sms, call etc
Nov 02 21:29:12 <Spider-Pork> *urc handling
Nov 02 21:29:23 <Spider-Pork> sorry, here is night, i am really tired
Nov 02 21:29:53 <denkenz> oFono does this over DBus
Nov 02 21:29:59 <Spider-Pork> perfect
Nov 02 21:30:12 <Spider-Pork> is that i need
Nov 02 21:31:03 <Spider-Pork> thank you denkenz , thank to all the channel
Nov 02 21:34:42 <Spider-Pork> i go to sleep, have nice day/night
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