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Sep 27 05:52:11 <kvalo> holtmann: with what modems does tools/huawei-audio work with? I guess not with all huawei modems?
Sep 27 08:31:17 <holtmann> kvalo: You like to know that, don't you ;)
Sep 27 08:32:48 <kvalo> I think it's a cool tool
Sep 27 08:36:32 <holtmann> And it does work. Check drivers/huaweimodem/voicecall.c. We have a voice call driver for some Huawei modems ;)
Sep 27 08:37:19 <fgau> holtmann: can anyone update power and reset path in plugins/calypso.c to /sys/bus/platform/devices/gta02-pm-gsm.0 please
Sep 27 08:39:24 <holtmann> fgau: Send a patch for it please.
Sep 27 08:41:25 <fgau> ok, i will do. btw, good work!
Sep 27 14:58:06 <crevetor> pessi: Hi
Sep 27 15:42:47 <pessi> crevetor: hi?
Sep 27 16:11:41 <crevetor> pessi: e-yes who I 'm working with on the nitdroid project told me I should ask you about this :
Sep 27 16:12:16 <crevetor> When does ofono emit a signal for signal strength change ?
Sep 27 16:17:08 <pessi> akiniemi might know
Sep 27 16:19:45 <pessi> but I think it will emit it when ever driver notifies
Sep 27 16:20:01 <akiniemi> pessi: that's right
Sep 27 16:20:59 <akiniemi> I think the modem does some throttling, but not sure if it's with some known hysteresis
Sep 27 16:21:26 <pessi> can you set hysteresis on isimodems?
Sep 27 16:21:39 <akiniemi> Nope
Sep 27 16:22:18 <akiniemi> At least not currently, and not without rebuilding the firmware
Sep 27 16:24:47 <akiniemi> Btw, it's kind of silly to report 0-100% when the typical UI will map it to 5-7 bars
Sep 27 16:32:17 <crevetor> akiniemi: I think it hsould report a dbm value. Then people can do whatever they want with it (bars, percent, etc)
Sep 27 16:46:03 <pessi> hmph, gprs works again...
Sep 27 16:57:18 <holtmann> akiniemi: We need to do that throttling inside oFono as well. We are just too lazy right now ;)
Sep 27 17:05:27 <pessi> hm, are there plans to create a stable branch on top of ofono 0.26?
Sep 27 17:08:02 <holtmann> No.
Sep 27 17:08:23 <holtmann> We don't do stable branches actually.
Sep 27 17:08:57 <pessi> so fixing ofono bugs in meego is up to Martin?
Sep 27 17:09:44 <e-yes> dbm values - wise idea
Sep 27 17:09:50 <holtmann> Bugs yes, features no.
Sep 27 17:16:55 <crevetor> e-yes: especially cause ril pretty much expects what's documented in the 3GPP documents for signal strength and it's not the same values depending if we're on GSM/CDMA/UMTS..
Sep 27 17:37:28 <raji> holtmann, I fixed callhistory api document with your feedback and sent out on friday, I am waiting for your comments on that. Would you like to see an algorithm or design of the plugin before in jump into implementation?
Sep 27 17:37:48 <holtmann> I was kinda busy. Give me a bit and I get to it.
Sep 27 17:38:03 <holtmann> Check the oFono git log ;)
Sep 27 17:39:02 <raji> ok, thanks
Sep 27 18:17:41 <crevetor> Quick question : I don't really understand why nettime isn't in ofono and had to be a separate plugin ?
Sep 27 18:19:15 <akiniemi> crevetor: we weren't quite sure how to expose NITZ to the rest of the system
Sep 27 18:21:13 <akiniemi> crevetor: if you have an idea, I'm all ears :)
Sep 27 18:27:54 <pessi> this ussd thing sucks
Sep 27 18:37:23 <crevetor> akiniemi: I was thinking of getting it through a signal 
Sep 27 18:38:04 <crevetor> akiniemi: With the rest of the parameters in netreg 
Sep 27 18:38:51 <crevetor> Having a nitz property and fire a signal when it changes
Sep 27 18:39:16 <crevetor> Though I don't know how often networks send nitz updates to phones...
Sep 27 18:39:51 <akiniemi> crevetor: typically when registering and on LAC changes
Sep 27 18:40:22 <crevetor> akiniemi: ok so it's not very often. I guess that could work.
Sep 27 18:40:30 <akiniemi> crevetor: and yeah, it could be just a simple property (adjusted to current time)
Sep 27 18:40:53 <akiniemi> crevetor: and this might be enough in the end
Sep 27 18:41:22 <crevetor> akiniemi: Any reason you know of why I don't get the Strength parameter when I call GetProperties on ofono.NetworkRegistration on an N900
Sep 27 18:41:59 <crevetor> akiniemi: It would be enough for me that's for sure :) I was reading through the sourcecode yesterday and was wondering why it wasn't like that..
Sep 27 18:42:11 <akiniemi> crevetor: hm, shouldn't that be always there?
Sep 27 18:43:06 <crevetor> akiniemi: Strength ? It probably should (the doc says it's an optional parameter) but I only get the non optional parameters
Sep 27 18:43:55 <akiniemi> crevetor: and the modem is online?
Sep 27 18:47:44 <pessi> crevetor: core does not ask it, and your field is so stble it never changes?
Sep 27 18:50:15 <akiniemi> pessi: core asks for all right, but only if registered (or roaming)
Sep 27 18:50:25 <akiniemi> s/for/for it
Sep 27 18:52:22 <pessi> ... and it is reported only before registration status changes?
Sep 27 18:54:13 <pessi> perhaps it should be asked when netreg status changes to registered or roaming?
Sep 27 18:57:02 <akiniemi> pessi: that should result in a new strength_notify()...
Sep 27 18:57:20 <akiniemi> but if the signal strength comes before the reg status change, it will be ignored...
Sep 27 18:58:06 <akiniemi> that sounds like a bug in core
Sep 27 18:58:32 <crevetor> akiniemi: Yeah : I can make/receive calls
Sep 27 18:59:42 <akiniemi> crevetor: can you run ofono with env OFONO_ISI_DEBUG=all?
Sep 27 18:59:47 <crevetor> akiniemi: pessi: The current value should always be reported by GetProperties whether it has changed or not isn't really my problem...
Sep 27 19:00:17 <crevetor> akiniemi: I think we already run it that way. I'm at work right now so I won't be able to test. But I can test tonight.
Sep 27 19:00:49 <akiniemi> crevetor: I suspect NET_RSSI_IND is received before NET_REG_STATUS_IND when the modem registers
Sep 27 19:01:40 <crevetor> That's very possible. Cause I did get a value at some point (possibly because the strength changed)
Sep 27 19:02:35 <akiniemi> Yeah, core needs to bootstrap strength whenever it gets registered
Sep 27 19:06:24 <pessi> akiniemi: rssi_ind comes before status_ind
Sep 27 19:08:53 <pessi> and no strenght until I cover my n900 with tin foil beanie
Sep 27 19:09:56 <crevetor> other problem : I am on an MVNO here (Fido which is an MVNO of Rogers) and the Name property is usually reported as Rogers and not Fido (but sometimes, usually after a network scan, it gets the name right)
Sep 27 19:10:17 <crevetor> pessi: akiniemi: do you guys work at Nokia ?
Sep 27 19:13:23 <pessi> yep
Sep 27 19:15:09 <crevetor> cool
Sep 27 19:20:30 <crevetor> isn't it like 9pm in Finland ?
Sep 27 19:24:37 <inz> 22:24
Sep 27 19:30:51 <crevetor> Ok
Sep 27 20:58:23 <ljp> I cant seem to find a way to get the IMEI, is this supported in ofono?
Sep 27 21:04:02 <ljp> perhaps it is Serial property
Sep 27 21:45:31 <kvalo> ljp: I see imei with my huawei modem.
Sep 27 21:48:57 <kvalo> sorry, I confused imei with imsi
Sep 27 23:26:57 <holtmann> denkenz: Isn't the online mode TODO item done?
Sep 27 23:26:57 <holtmann> pessi: Do you have pending patches for it?
Sep 27 23:26:57 <holtmann> Are we missing anything that I am not aware of?
Sep 27 23:27:55 <denkenz> Online mode needs a bit more tweaks in the atom themselves
Sep 27 23:28:22 <denkenz> For instance, sms and gprs need to get moved into the post_sim state and track when online state changes
Sep 27 23:28:36 <denkenz> so you can queue sms and tweak the gprs settings (e.g. roaming allowed, etc)
Sep 27 23:28:55 <denkenz> same with voice calls to some extent
Sep 27 23:33:34 <holtmann> Okay. So who is doing that>
Sep 27 23:33:51 <denkenz> pessi signed up for it ;)
Sep 27 23:45:23 <holtmann> pessi: Updates on that one please.
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