**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 02 02:59:57 2010 Nov 02 09:54:09 sameo: So I pushed the hopefully (fingers-crossed) working first version of a WISPr client. Nov 02 09:55:06 holtmann: #connman ? Nov 02 09:57:04 Of course ;) Nov 02 11:48:34 I'm a kind of oFono newbie here and I thought about starting to write the neighbour cell info stuff. Any tips or things to take into consideration? I'm going to develop with Siemens TC65 modem, so I might as well write a plugin for that too.. Nov 02 11:53:11 osw: There are plans to have a common API for that. Check the mailing list archives. Nov 02 12:15:34 okay Nov 02 16:15:06 denkenz: about the sim ready thing... is it OK to add a new "not ready" enum for pin status or do you want to have spearate query_ready function and ready_notify indication? Nov 02 16:15:14 separate Nov 02 16:15:35 I don't like the enum hacking approach Nov 02 16:16:22 If you can get my earlier patch working that would be nice I think Nov 02 16:19:29 did you send it to list? Nov 02 16:21:40 holtmann: Hi, I see you commited some CNAP stuff for ifxmodem, did you find a working operator/sim ? Nov 02 16:24:36 pessi: yeah, a while ago Nov 02 16:25:55 pessi: http://lists.ofono.org/pipermail/ofono/2010-August/004203.html Nov 02 16:25:59 denkenz: sim might not be ready even if PIN is disabled Nov 02 16:26:13 Yeah, this one covers both cases Nov 02 16:26:34 gmail has crappy search Nov 02 16:26:41 Or has potential to anyway Nov 02 16:30:15 how do you want to trigger check for readiness on the device? Nov 02 16:32:59 on the driver Nov 02 16:35:05 on sane hardware it should be unsolicited Nov 02 16:35:22 e.g. IFX does this right Nov 02 16:39:44 yes, and if oFono misses it because we power up modem when device is powered? Nov 02 16:42:28 Then the driver has to take care of it Nov 02 16:42:36 There's nothing that the core can do here Nov 02 16:57:44 and how the driver knows when it is time to do the check? query_passwd_state returns none? Nov 02 17:03:02 how does the core know? Nov 02 17:03:50 If the driver knows the modem can be left in offline state, then even sim_inserted_notify has to be taken care of properly Nov 02 17:04:51 crevetor: Nope. I just enabled it in the case some operator sends it. We are not using it. Nov 02 17:42:41 holtmann: ok Nov 02 17:43:07 The hope is that eventually will show up in someone logs. Nov 02 18:57:37 denkenz: I'll ask Jukka what he thinks is best way to do this, I'll send another round of patches tomorrow Nov 02 19:02:05 ..and how well we support modems that do not support AT+CRSM? Nov 02 19:03:08 Not well? :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 03 02:59:57 2010