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Nov 24 03:28:07 <zgli> :holtmann,  For the RAT in ofono, I didn't find it at network interface, does mean it support at setting sms Bearer ?
Nov 24 13:36:07 <demarchi> holtmann: do you know the difference between umts and gsm frequencies?
Nov 24 13:36:54 <demarchi> i'm implementing the freq. band selection, and having and interface to set it to "850", "900", "1900", doesn't seem sufficient
Nov 24 13:37:39 <demarchi> e.g. 850 could mean gsm or umts
Nov 24 13:49:03 <Jeevaka> akiniemi: checked your fix for the call forwarding erasure case
Nov 24 13:53:14 <denkenz> demarchi: So I think the way we do this is to separate the GSM and UMTS bands
Nov 24 13:53:22 <denkenz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
Nov 24 13:53:32 <denkenz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_frequency_bands
Nov 24 13:54:22 <demarchi> denkenz: but then implicitly we would have to set the mode too
Nov 24 13:56:06 <denkenz> Nah, I don't think so
Nov 24 13:56:26 <denkenz> Let the modem figure this out
Nov 24 13:56:46 <demarchi> denkenz: so, you are saying that instead of "850", I'll have "U850" and "G850"?
Nov 24 13:57:58 <denkenz> we have 14 gsm bands and 14 umts bands
Nov 24 13:58:22 <denkenz> So we can just do two properties
Nov 24 14:03:06 <demarchi> denkenz: GsmBand and UmtsBand?
Nov 24 14:03:32 <denkenz> Sounds good
Nov 24 14:03:50 <demarchi> but they would overwrite themselves
Nov 24 14:04:53 <demarchi> e.g. if i set GsmBand and after UmtsBand, when I try to get() the value of GsmBand, it will be invalid
Nov 24 14:05:38 <denkenz> why do you say that?
Nov 24 14:08:36 <demarchi> at least in huawei modem, the freq. band (be it gsm or umts) is set by the same command
Nov 24 14:23:22 <denkenz> so just have one driver method set both of them
Nov 24 14:23:44 <denkenz> something like set_freq_bands(enum umts_bands, enum gsm_bands) or something
Nov 24 14:26:02 <emdete> are there any news on enabling GPS in ofono?
Nov 24 14:26:40 <denkenz> Check if the task has an owner
Nov 24 14:26:53 <denkenz> If there isn't one, then nobody is working on it
Nov 24 14:27:59 <emdete> denkenz: where can i check that?
Nov 24 14:28:05 <denkenz> git / TODO
Nov 24 14:28:13 <aruravi> denkenz: voicecallmanager-api.txt doesn't have GetProperties() Interface, is this removed intentionally from document?
Nov 24 14:29:02 <denkenz> aruravi: For cdma one? probably an oversight
Nov 24 14:29:13 <aruravi> for GSM/UMTS also
Nov 24 14:29:58 <denkenz> Then yes, it is a bug
Nov 24 14:30:20 <aruravi> I will submit a patch
Nov 24 14:30:25 <denkenz> cool, thanks
Nov 24 14:32:43 <demarchi> denkenz: i'm not convinced yet
Nov 24 14:33:03 <demarchi> denkenz: in the modem it's the same "property"
Nov 24 14:33:08 <denkenz> demarchi: what exactly? About having a single method?
Nov 24 14:33:21 <denkenz> Then see call-forwarding atom
Nov 24 14:33:50 <denkenz> VoiceNoReply and VoiceNoReplyTimeout are handled this way
Nov 24 14:34:16 <demarchi> denkenz: e.g. if i set a value of 0x400, it means umts 850MHz; if i give it a value of 0x123 it means gsm 850Mhz
Nov 24 14:34:57 <denkenz> No, give the driver both sets and let it figure it out
Nov 24 15:10:23 <aruravi> denkenz: I just mailed the doc update patch.
Nov 24 16:32:01 <demarchi> denkenz: does OFONO_TEXT_TELEPHONY_INTERFACE remain as you applied or do I rename it?
Nov 24 16:32:20 <demarchi> same question wrt OFONO_ATOM_TYPE_TEXT_TELEPHONY 
Nov 24 16:40:47 <denkenz> yeah, that part is fine
Nov 24 16:41:41 <denkenz> The atom type should be type_ctm
Nov 24 17:01:24 <demarchi> ok
Nov 24 17:20:41 <mr_amit> hi all
Nov 24 17:21:11 <mr_amit> I am trying to use my usb 3g datacard with ofono
Nov 24 17:21:14 <mr_amit> but no success
Nov 24 17:21:31 <mr_amit> it's generic AT command based modem
Nov 24 17:21:50 <mr_amit> the device was not working with ModemManager
Nov 24 17:22:13 <mr_amit> but as the device was not switched to usb_modeswitch
Nov 24 17:22:23 <mr_amit> after some tweeks 
Nov 24 17:22:36 <mr_amit> I managed to switch the device to modem mode
Nov 24 17:22:52 <mr_amit> and then was working perfect with modem-manager
Nov 24 17:23:10 <mr_amit> now I want to see how it can be used with ofono
Nov 24 17:23:22 <mr_amit> as it's an AT command based modem
Nov 24 17:23:28 <mr_amit> it should work out of the box
Nov 24 17:23:37 <mr_amit> but it's not
Nov 24 17:25:04 <mr_amit> I tried with latest ofono sources from git (maintainer mode)
Nov 24 17:25:04 <mr_amit> and then when I run ./test/list-modems
Nov 24 17:25:04 <mr_amit> returns nothing
Nov 24 17:25:04 <mr_amit> I also tried different options in udev rules
Nov 24 17:25:04 <mr_amit> but no success
Nov 24 17:27:51 <mr_amit> you can see the lsusb output here
Nov 24 17:27:52 <mr_amit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch-data/+bug/673459/+attachment/1743728/+files/lsusb.txt
Nov 24 17:28:42 <mr_amit> usb_modeswitch will switch the device to configuration no 3
Nov 24 17:36:47 <mr_amit> demarchi, akiniem, akiniemi: any help?
Nov 24 17:41:00 <calypsoscomforts> hi mr_amit I can't help as I'm a complete ofono novice, but that device you have looks to have some very interesting interfaces described in lsusb. What manufacter and model is it?
Nov 24 17:41:12 <demarchi> mr_amit: what is the output of "dmesg | grep tty" ?
Nov 24 17:43:15 <mr_amit> calypsoscomforts: it's a Linktop device distributed by Teracom (Linktop LW273)
Nov 24 17:45:41 <calypsoscomforts> thanks, maybe your device is not bound to a suitable driver (option etc)
Nov 24 17:47:21 <mr_amit> calypsoscomforts: I tried hso, mbm and atmodem driver using udev rule
Nov 24 17:47:21 <mr_amit> demarchi: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/295558/
Nov 24 17:48:03 <mr_amit> do you think, as this device has lot more interfaces then just modem
Nov 24 17:48:16 <mr_amit> it might require a custom driver?
Nov 24 17:52:10 <calypsoscomforts> mmm, demarchi's dmesg seems to suggest that there's hope in it being an ACM device. Perhaps /dev/ttyACM0 or 1 are functional. Anyway as I said I know nothing about ofono, being a previous Betavine guy, but I'm lurking here hoping to get up to speed with ofono so I can use on an embedded project
Nov 24 21:01:58 <mr_amit> finally I managed to use my Linktop usb dongle with ofono!
Nov 24 21:02:46 <mr_amit> however, I am not sure whether it's the proper method
Nov 24 21:03:03 <mr_amit> as this device has 8 interfaces
Nov 24 21:03:34 <mr_amit> two of them are modems, one for phone controll
Nov 24 21:03:55 <mr_amit> and rest are for modem audio 
Nov 24 21:03:59 <mr_amit> not sure though
Nov 24 21:04:19 <mr_amit> I used nokia driver as starting point
Nov 24 21:04:29 <mr_amit> and it activated both the device
Nov 24 21:28:35 <Jeevaka> denkenz: ?
Nov 24 21:37:27 <denkenz> Jeevaka: yes?
Nov 24 21:39:33 <Jeevaka> I got the answer in your latest email but anyway I'll ask my question
Nov 24 21:41:10 <Jeevaka> in call-forwarding.c, set_query_cf_callback we have one if loop which sends the reply and another if loop continues the query when the end is not reached
Nov 24 21:41:25 <padovan> denkenz: Not sure if I can restore the modem state in the silent reset, because when ofono_modem_reset is call is already down.
Nov 24 21:41:36 <padovan> Then we don't know its last state
Nov 24 21:41:57 <padovan> Unless I add a modem->last_state there.
Nov 24 21:42:50 <Jeevaka> I was thinking of moving the if loop below the set_new_cond_list and making it as if-else loop
Nov 24 21:43:24 <denkenz> padovan: Except you don't signal modem_powered
Nov 24 21:43:45 <denkenz> padovan: Simply call _reset and that way you know your previous state
Nov 24 21:44:26 <denkenz> Jeevaka: For multiple properties I think this is the necessary evil
Nov 24 21:44:44 <denkenz> Unless we plan to save them up and signal them at the end
Nov 24 21:44:45 <padovan> denkenz: Yeah, that could work out, I was calling ofono_modem_set_powered(FALSE) before call _reset
Nov 24 21:50:29 <Jeevaka> any comments on the patch  call-forwarding: skip property change data and fax
Nov 24 22:18:04 <padovan> denkenz: don't signal the modem_powered doesn't help, actually it make reset stop to work properly.
Nov 24 22:18:29 <padovan> if I don't change the state to POWER_OFF I won't get pre_sim called
Nov 24 22:38:07 <denkenz> padovan: So I suggest setting the powered state in the silent reset notification
Nov 24 23:08:06 <padovan> denkenz: what do you mean by setting the powered state in the silent reset notification? set powered to false inside phonesim plugin?
Nov 25 01:01:27 <yang_office1> denkenz: For time and lang in provide local info, do we need to ask the terminal to return the time and lang?
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