**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 13 23:59:57 2005
Apr 14 16:59:54 <[g2]-solderboy> beewoolie-away, what baud rate does APEX come up in ?
Apr 14 17:00:19 <beewoolie-away> [g2]-solderboy: 115200
Apr 14 17:00:34 <beewoolie-away> I suppose that should be a config option, too.
Apr 14 17:00:53 <beewoolie-away> The serial drivers don't presently have any kind of support for baud rates other than 115200.
Apr 14 17:01:42 <[g2]-solderboy> hmmm.
Apr 14 17:02:35 <[g2]-solderboy> I tried flashing APEX to a slug this morning
Apr 14 17:04:16 <[g2]-solderboy> I tried on my non-serial slug
Apr 14 17:04:52 <[g2]-solderboy> I think it boots, but ethernet didn't work
Apr 14 17:05:23 <[g2]-solderboy> so I've attached a serial header, but I've got to check the wiring
Apr 14 17:17:03 <beewoolie-away> Interesting.
Apr 14 17:17:24 <beewoolie-away> I got my USB hook-up today.  Kinda handy.  A 120G USB 2.0 drive for $100.
Apr 14 17:17:48 <[g2]-solderboy> maxtor ?
Apr 14 17:17:56 <beewoolie-away> Seagate.
Apr 14 17:18:13 <beewoolie-away> I'm using an old SCSI enclosure for the power-supply.
Apr 14 17:18:15 <[g2]-solderboy> can you set the spin down on those ?
Apr 14 17:18:22 <beewoolie-away> Don't know.
Apr 14 17:18:38 <beewoolie-away> I think that I can if *any* usb drive can.
Apr 14 17:19:11 <[g2]-solderboy> actually the maxtor drive needs a windows utility to set it on the drive
Apr 14 17:19:18 <[g2]-solderboy> it's in the firmware of the drive
Apr 14 17:19:42 <[g2]-solderboy> usb drives don't implement hdparm via scsi as far as I know
Apr 14 17:20:11 <beewoolie-away> Ah, well.  That would be nice, but I'm not too concerned at the moment.
Apr 14 17:20:24 <beewoolie-away> It's really quiet.
Apr 14 17:22:47 <beewoolie-away> It's peculiar that the NPE would work on the avilla and not the slug.
Apr 14 17:23:22 <beewoolie-away> I wonder if the problem is *not* with the NPE setup, but some other component.  For example, there may be a GPIO thing we need to do to get the NPE running on the slug.
Apr 14 17:24:08 <[g2]-solderboy> possibly
Apr 14 17:24:27 <[g2]-solderboy> If the serial was working I could check that
Apr 14 17:25:39 <[g2]-solderboy> my soldering skills still suck tremendously, but the improved a bunch today
Apr 14 17:25:54 <[g2]-solderboy> clearly not enough, but they are better
Apr 14 18:34:08 <beewoolie-away> [g2]-solderboy: from the nslu2-linux page it looks like the seagate drives can only be powered-down from Windows.  Too bad.
Apr 14 19:14:21 <[g2]-solderboy> nod
Apr 14 19:14:57 <[g2]-solderboy> AHHH.... success....
Apr 14 19:15:07 <[g2]-solderboy> I'm in on the second serial link to APEX !
Apr 14 19:15:10 <[g2]-solderboy> woo hool
Apr 14 19:15:15 <[g2]-solderboy> woo hoo!
Apr 14 19:51:34 <[g2]-solderboy> beewoolie-away, around ?
Apr 14 19:51:47 <beewoolie-away> [g2]-solderboy: still here
Apr 14 19:52:07 <[g2]-solderboy> hey I've successfully soldered my first serial connection!
Apr 14 19:52:09 <beewoolie-away> What is the success?
Apr 14 19:52:21 <[g2]-solderboy> and recovered my Slug
Apr 14 19:52:25 <beewoolie-away> Really?  You've never had a console on the slug before?
Apr 14 19:52:47 <[g2]-solderboy> No, I've had console, but a friend put the header on for me and shipped me the unit
Apr 14 19:52:59 <beewoolie-away> All right then.
Apr 14 19:53:01 <[g2]-solderboy> I just did the comsys level converter
Apr 14 19:53:06 <beewoolie-away> Right.
Apr 14 19:53:29 <[g2]-solderboy> but today I did both, the header (which is all *fscked up*) and the comsys which is pretty nice
Apr 14 19:53:47 <[g2]-solderboy> most importantly, it's working
Apr 14 19:53:51 <beewoolie-away> Nice work.
Apr 14 19:53:52 <[g2]-solderboy> and I got cosole
Apr 14 19:53:59 <beewoolie-away> consolder
Apr 14 19:54:17 <[g2]-solderboy> I broke down and got a soldering workstation
Apr 14 19:54:29 <[g2]-solderboy> that makes a difference
Apr 14 19:54:33 <beewoolie-away> I agree.
Apr 14 19:54:43 <beewoolie-away> Magnifying lense, too
Apr 14 19:54:44 <[g2]-solderboy> So back to APEX
Apr 14 19:54:44 <beewoolie-away> ?
Apr 14 19:54:48 <[g2]-solderboy> nod.
Apr 14 19:54:53 <[g2]-solderboy> with clip holders
Apr 14 19:55:01 <[g2]-solderboy> and handheld with light
Apr 14 19:55:03 <beewoolie-away> Are we still unable to get the slug to see the network with APEX?
Apr 14 19:55:11 <[g2]-solderboy> yes
Apr 14 19:55:18 <beewoolie-away> Bad luck.
Apr 14 19:55:18 <[g2]-solderboy> that's how I got into this mess
Apr 14 19:55:32 <[g2]-solderboy> I don't think it's bad luck.
Apr 14 19:55:40 <[g2]-solderboy> I works on the avila board :)
Apr 14 19:55:49 <beewoolie-away> Well, it means that there is something else that redboot is doing.  I'm wondering if the is a GPIO connection to the PHY.
Apr 14 19:56:27 <[g2]-solderboy> well, I was thinking about writing a program to dump all this IXP internal registers
Apr 14 19:56:52 <[g2]-solderboy> then we could load and run the program from Redboot and Apex and see the diff
Apr 14 19:57:17 <beewoolie-away> You should be able to see the registers with APEX
Apr 14 19:57:20 <beewoolie-away> ..and with redboot.
Apr 14 19:57:21 <[g2]-solderboy> I can also find out why the memory isn't configured right on the avila board too
Apr 14 19:57:24 <beewoolie-away> No need for another program.
Apr 14 19:57:36 <beewoolie-away> Which do you want to work on first/
Apr 14 19:57:37 <beewoolie-away> ?
Apr 14 19:57:50 <[g2]-solderboy> Network, the memory is pretty straight forward
Apr 14 19:57:57 <[g2]-solderboy> and not impeeding anyone but me
Apr 14 19:58:03 <beewoolie-away> OK.
Apr 14 19:58:09 <beewoolie-away> Is APEX still on the board?
Apr 14 19:58:24 <[g2]-solderboy> sure, I keep both in the jffs2 and just dd 
Apr 14 19:58:41 <[g2]-solderboy> it's sweet
Apr 14 19:58:45 <beewoolie-away> OK.  can you get to the APEX console?
Apr 14 19:59:46 <beewoolie-away> I'll see if I can get my slug booted to redboot...
Apr 14 19:59:52 <[g2]-solderboy> Ok I'm there
Apr 14 20:00:17 <[g2]-solderboy> did I need to enable the low-level debugging in the config ?
Apr 14 20:00:23 <beewoolie-away> No.
Apr 14 20:00:35 <[g2]-solderboy> cool, cause I didn't
Apr 14 20:01:04 <beewoolie-away> the LL debug code seems to be problematic because of a register spill.
Apr 14 20:01:04 <[g2]-solderboy> so you are thinking dump is our friend ?
Apr 14 20:01:08 <beewoolie-away> Yeah.
Apr 14 20:01:38 <beewoolie-away> OK.  Dump 0xc8004000
Apr 14 20:01:52 <beewoolie-away> I'm going upstairs for a minute to get the slug.  I'll be back in a few minutes.
Apr 14 20:01:58 <[g2]-solderboy> nod.
Apr 14 20:04:33 <beewoolie-away> I wrote up a little hint on getting into the slug from the network.  I was never able to get the upslug program to work because it relies on a version of ping that isn't available on debian.
Apr 14 20:05:44 <beewoolie-away> What do you see at 0xc8004000?
Apr 14 20:06:15 <[g2]-solderboy> apex> dump 0xc8004000
Apr 14 20:06:15 <[g2]-solderboy> c8004000: 00 00 00 04 00 00 1f 30  00 00 1e 04 00 00 3f ff  .......0 ......??
Apr 14 20:06:15 <[g2]-solderboy> c8004010: 00 00 92 40 00 00 02 49  01 ff 01 ff 00 00 00 00  ...@...I .?.?....
Apr 14 20:06:15 <[g2]-solderboy> c8004020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
Apr 14 20:06:15 <[g2]-solderboy> c8004030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
Apr 14 20:07:41 <beewoolie-away> ...decoding...
Apr 14 20:10:33 <beewoolie-away> Well, there is a difference in the output enables.  Give me another moment....
Apr 14 20:16:16 <beewoolie-away> The differences in the GPIO stuff are unimportant.
Apr 14 20:17:59 <[g2]-solderboy> ok
Apr 14 20:19:41 <beewoolie-away> Grr.  Redboot doesn't let me look at some of the system registers.  I hope that means that it doesn't set them.
Apr 14 20:20:53 <[g2]-solderboy> I would be nice to have QEMU run redboot in emulation and see all the writes to the config regs in ord
Apr 14 20:20:57 <[g2]-solderboy> order
Apr 14 20:21:21 <beewoolie-away> Hmm.  Interesting idea.  It would give us everything, no?
Apr 14 20:21:41 <[g2]-solderboy> one would think so
Apr 14 20:22:15 <[g2]-solderboy> the only thing I really miss working from home is the big toys
Apr 14 20:22:35 <beewoolie-away> Do you know how to get QEMU to work?  Doesn't it have to have a model of the CPU?
Apr 14 20:22:39 <beewoolie-away> And system?
Apr 14 20:22:52 <[g2]-solderboy> big logic analyzers, deep memory etc...
Apr 14 20:23:01 <[g2]-solderboy> Are system support isn't there yet
Apr 14 20:23:15 <[g2]-solderboy> ARM
Apr 14 20:23:16 <beewoolie-away> Let's look at the MAC.
Apr 14 20:23:28 <[g2]-solderboy> I'm in APEX
Apr 14 20:23:41 <beewoolie-away> I'm getting the addresses...
Apr 14 20:24:02 <[g2]-solderboy> Did you mean the MII ?
Apr 14 20:24:48 <beewoolie> I mean the MAC, first.  If we can talk the the PHY, well that's another step.
Apr 14 20:25:06 <beewoolie> dump 0xc8009000+256
Apr 14 20:25:36 <[g2]> all zeros
Apr 14 20:25:51 <beewoolie> OK.  Comparing...
Apr 14 20:25:51 <[g2]> apex> dump 0xc8009000+256
Apr 14 20:25:51 <[g2]> c8009000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
Apr 14 20:31:47 <beewoolie> Hmm.  Do you want to try a long shot?
Apr 14 20:31:53 <[g2]> sure
Apr 14 20:31:57 <beewoolie> Won't hurt if it fails.
Apr 14 20:32:07 <[g2]> that's good to know :)
Apr 14 20:32:43 <beewoolie> fill 1 0xc80090e3
Apr 14 20:33:07 <beewoolie> I'm really skeptical, but who knows.
Apr 14 20:33:16 <[g2]> apex> fill 1 0xc80090e3
Apr 14 20:33:16 <[g2]> Error -9 (parameter error
Apr 14 20:33:33 <beewoolie> Oh.  I think it needs to be  fill 1 0xc80090e3+1
Apr 14 20:34:01 <[g2]> you know "up arrow" for cmds would be quite helpful in APEX :)
Apr 14 20:34:02 <beewoolie> Verify it and then see if the kernel boots with the network interface.
Apr 14 20:34:09 <beewoolie> Yeah, It's on the list.
Apr 14 20:34:14 <beewoolie> Redboot doesn't have it either.
Apr 14 20:34:33 <beewoolie> I use a lot of cut and paste.
Apr 14 20:34:54 <[g2]> c80090e0: 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ........ ........
Apr 14 20:34:56 <beewoolie> I really don't think it's anything like this, though, since the avilla works.
Apr 14 20:35:00 <beewoolie> yeah, that's right.
Apr 14 20:35:05 <beewoolie> Try booting.
Apr 14 20:37:27 <[g2]> no joy
Apr 14 20:37:47 <beewoolie> I'm looking through the redboot code to see if I can see anything.
Apr 14 20:38:43 <[g2]> we should probably check the Redboot changes from linksys in their diff file
Apr 14 20:39:01 <beewoolie> Correct me if I'm wrong.  The Redboot version for linksys was the same as the stock IXP version.  right?
Apr 14 20:39:10 <beewoolie> Is there a single diff file?
Apr 14 20:39:22 <[g2]> I think so
Apr 14 20:39:44 <[g2]> It's been 6-7 months since I looked at it
Apr 14 20:40:24 <beewoolie> Hmm.  It looks like there are some patches, though.
Apr 14 20:40:41 <[g2]> are you looking at the diff ?
Apr 14 20:40:50 <beewoolie> U'm trying to find it
Apr 14 20:41:17 <beewoolie> Ah, there is a diff...
Apr 14 20:41:46 <[g2]> Ok are you looking at the sluggo patches ?
Apr 14 20:42:03 <[g2]> I'd imagine the important ones are in there
Apr 14 20:42:12 <[g2]> but in doesn't hurt to go back to the source
Apr 14 20:42:46 <beewoolie> I'm looking at the source archive from linksys.
Apr 14 20:52:17 <beewoolie> Is this address familiar to anyone...on the slug?
Apr 14 20:52:19 <beewoolie> 0x5003ffb0
Apr 14 20:52:42 <[g2]> that's the MAC addr from flash isn't it ?
Apr 14 20:53:20 <[g2]> actually, thats too far
Apr 14 20:53:21 <beewoolie> That's what I thought.
Apr 14 20:53:30 <beewoolie> Oh?
Apr 14 20:53:32 <[g2]> no I take that back
Apr 14 20:53:49 <[g2]> 0x10000 is 64K 0x40000 is 256K
Apr 14 20:54:02 <[g2]> That's the mac
Apr 14 20:54:16 <[g2]> getting pulled from Redboot
Apr 14 20:54:21 <beewoolie> The code calles it the 'ESA'.
Apr 14 20:54:51 <[g2]> yeah I was noticing that too in the diff
Apr 14 20:55:07 <beewoolie> Ah.  I found something...
Apr 14 20:55:43 <[g2]> + * This should be called once per mac device.
Apr 14 20:55:43 <[g2]> + * The NPE/MAC shall be in disabled state after init.
Apr 14 20:55:58 <[g2]>  * Initialize the NPE/Ethernet MAC hardware.
Apr 14 20:55:58 <[g2]> + * Verify NPE downloaded and operational.
Apr 14 20:56:13 <[g2]> IxEthAccStatus ixEthAccInit(void);
Apr 14 20:56:19 <beewoolie> But remember that this isn't done on the avilla with APEX.
Apr 14 20:56:36 <[g2]> nod, but what is it doing ?
Apr 14 20:56:39 <beewoolie> I'm reasonably confident that we shouldn't have to do anything to the NPE .
Apr 14 20:57:17 <[g2]> well maybe we should shoot an email out to the ixp4xx ml 
Apr 14 20:57:25 <beewoolie> Hang on...
Apr 14 20:57:28 <[g2]> and ask the question backwards
Apr 14 20:57:57 <beewoolie> The linksys patch is initializing CS4, 5, and 7.  I don't think I'm doing that.
Apr 14 20:58:43 <beewoolie> Do we know what these chip selects are connected to?
Apr 14 20:59:32 <beewoolie> We could add these to APEX and see if it makes a difference for you.
Apr 14 21:00:02 <[g2]> dunno
Apr 14 21:00:22 <[g2]> that's just one or two regs per CS right ?
Apr 14 21:00:51 <beewoolie> Hmm.  This looks kinda important to me.
Apr 14 21:01:57 <[g2]> what the ixEthAccMacInit ?
Apr 14 21:02:24 <beewoolie> Hmm?
Apr 14 21:03:02 <[g2]> you've got sluggo around ?
Apr 14 21:03:07 <[g2]> the code
Apr 14 21:04:12 <beewoolie> Yeah.
Apr 14 21:05:17 <[g2]> in sluggo/source/redboot-intel-xscale.diff line 21404
Apr 14 21:05:17 <beewoolie> OK.  I'm done with the patch.  The only thing I see that make me suspicious is the lack of initialization for cs4,5,7.
Apr 14 21:05:28 <beewoolie> I'mm going to add these to apex.
Apr 14 21:05:32 <beewoolie> ...looking...
Apr 14 21:06:26 <beewoolie> OK.  What about it?
Apr 14 21:06:26 <[g2]> I wonder if the state of the MAC can be changed by some pull ups on initialization or something like that
Apr 14 21:06:44 <[g2]> well it looks like the default state is not enabled
Apr 14 21:06:52 <beewoolie> This function is part of the intel liibrary.
Apr 14 21:07:17 <beewoolie> I don't think it should matter.  The NPE is supposed to be completely initialized in the kernel.
Apr 14 21:07:27 <beewoolie> At least, it is for every other driver.
Apr 14 21:07:43 <[g2]> well we've got the classic conflict between theory and practice :)
Apr 14 21:07:53 <beewoolie> We don't know that.
Apr 14 21:08:18 <beewoolie> The lack of initialization for part of the memory controller is definitely a problem.
Apr 14 21:08:44 <[g2]> OK, I don't know what is hanging off those CS's if anything
Apr 14 21:09:37 <beewoolie> Hey, guess what.  I found a typo in the initialization function for the ixp.  It is in part of the flash initialization...
Apr 14 21:09:54 <beewoolie> Right.  But Linksys made a point of initializing them.
Apr 14 21:15:18 <beewoolie> Interesting.  The address spaces for these chip selects are 512 bytes,
Apr 14 21:15:57 <[g2]> did you put those patches in the next version ?
Apr 14 21:16:34 <[g2]> I mean that would might be a smoking gun
Apr 14 21:16:43 <[g2]> would/might
Apr 14 21:16:58 <[g2]> if those addresses are used to communicate with the NPEs
Apr 14 21:19:35 <beewoolie> I'm confused.  What patches?
Apr 14 21:20:08 <[g2]> the version bump on APEX to include the CS4, 5 and 7
Apr 14 21:22:34 <beewoolie> Right.  Would you like to try a binary of 1.2.8 that has the memory initializations?
Apr 14 21:22:48 <[g2]> that's what I was suggesting
Apr 14 21:23:57 <beewoolie> ftp://ftp.buici.com/pub/apex/apex-1.2.8-nslu2.bin
Apr 14 21:24:16 <beewoolie> It also fixes the typo in the flash chip select initialization.
Apr 14 21:24:28 <[g2]> is that a test version ?
Apr 14 21:24:41 <beewoolie> For you, my friend.
Apr 14 21:25:01 <[g2]> well you don't have my config or my patch to boot to /dev/mtdblock4
Apr 14 21:25:34 <[g2]> unless you used the config I send you the other day that's 98% the same
Apr 14 21:25:35 <beewoolie> Hmm.  Can you set the command line in the environment?  What other changes have you made?
Apr 14 21:25:44 <beewoolie> Let me see.
Apr 14 21:26:18 <[g2]> for the nslu2 I think just the 5 second autoboot
Apr 14 21:26:45 <[g2]> my tool chain is at a different spot :)
Apr 14 21:26:53 <beewoolie> Your config isn't in the same format as I'm using now.
Apr 14 21:27:13 <beewoolie> You can override the toolchain in te environment...OK.  I can just push the code, too.
Apr 14 21:27:19 <[g2]> make oldconfig will still work right ?
Apr 14 21:27:47 <beewoolie> It should, but you need to make sure that you're using the new format of config file.  When I moved to the Kconfig, I changed some of the variable names.
Apr 14 21:28:00 <beewoolie> The config you sent is one of the older style ones.
Apr 14 21:28:41 <[g2]> well doesn't make oldconfig either barf or convert it ?
Apr 14 21:29:09 <[g2]> silent failures aren't a good thing
Apr 14 21:29:12 <[g2]> (tm)
Apr 14 21:29:12 <beewoolie> That's true, but there are a couple of important changes.  1) The name of the file has been moved to .config, just like the kernel uses.
Apr 14 21:29:32 <[g2]> yeah, copy it to .config
Apr 14 21:29:34 <beewoolie> And, the new names won't pull from the old ones.
Apr 14 21:30:01 <beewoolie> I've done a lot to make it easier to use.  Yes, there is a small bump in compatibility.
Apr 14 21:30:24 <beewoolie> I chose to make the config variable names more consistent.
Apr 14 21:31:07 <[g2]> Ok, how about this.
Apr 14 21:31:14 <[g2]> Can you push 1.2.8
Apr 14 21:31:22 <beewoolie> ...testing it right now...
Apr 14 21:31:45 <beewoolie> It's there.
Apr 14 21:32:14 <[g2]> Ok. I was going to say, In the morning I'll pull 1.2.8 and make a fresh config to my liking so I'm a good APEX citizen
Apr 14 21:32:34 <[g2]> and patch my default boot cmd
Apr 14 21:32:51 <[g2]> then, I'll test the 1.2.8 APEX and send you mail on the status
Apr 14 21:32:56 <beewoolie> I'll add that feature, too.  Maybe tonight.
Apr 14 21:33:00 <beewoolie> OK.
Apr 14 21:33:20 <[g2]> Ok can you send my a simple go no-go email ?
Apr 14 21:33:50 <[g2]> If you add the default cmd line, I'll test it too, you don't need to
Apr 14 21:34:08 <[g2]> unless of course you want to
Apr 14 21:34:44 <[g2]> OH.... which reminds me
Apr 14 21:34:48 <beewoolie> Fair enough.  It'll either be really simple or a big pain in the but.
Apr 14 21:35:00 <[g2]> or butt :)
Apr 14 21:35:12 <beewoolie> ;-p
Apr 14 21:35:24 <[g2]> You know what I'd like to add to APEX ?
Apr 14 21:35:37 <[g2]> for the mach-ixp4xx
Apr 14 21:36:03 <beewoolie> I'm certain you'll tell me.
Apr 14 21:36:53 <[g2]> if you hold the reset button down it copies the 3rd block (1-relative) to the 1st block
Apr 14 21:37:39 <beewoolie> can you be more specific?
Apr 14 21:38:00 <beewoolie> Do you mean, rewrite flash?
Apr 14 21:38:16 <[g2]> the user could overwrite the linksys config area (3rd block) or first block of switchbox with the first block of Redboot
Apr 14 21:38:36 <[g2]> holding the reset of fetch the copy of the first block and restore Redboot
Apr 14 21:38:56 <[g2]> actually if we did the switchbox partition, we could do the full Redboot
Apr 14 21:39:20 <[g2]> then ppl could play with APEX without serial or JTAG
Apr 14 21:39:28 <beewoolie> So, if APEX is in the first block, holding the reset button will clobber APEX with the third flash block.
Apr 14 21:39:39 <[g2]> nod.
Apr 14 21:39:45 <beewoolie> Hmm.  Let me think about it.
Apr 14 21:39:50 <[g2]> then On the reboot Redboot would be restored
Apr 14 21:39:58 <beewoolie> It would conflict with the other UI I thought about adding.
Apr 14 21:40:03 <[g2]> actually, I like using the switchbox area for the full Redboot
Apr 14 21:40:09 <beewoolie> Perhaps this should be one of the modes that the UI handles.
Apr 14 21:40:24 <[g2]> We'll it's a very simple start
Apr 14 21:40:51 <[g2]> I'd rather have the full restore at the push of a button 
Apr 14 21:40:53 <beewoolie> He says simple.
Apr 14 21:41:21 <[g2]> I think it is simple
Apr 14 21:41:33 <[g2]> it's a block or two flash erase and a copy to flash
Apr 14 21:41:36 <beewoolie> Let me give it some though.
Apr 14 21:41:48 <beewoolie> I know that the mechanism is easy.  There are lots of details, though.
Apr 14 21:43:02 <[g2]> so now that we got some fair development environs, I'd like to really roll on APEX
Apr 14 21:45:11 <beewoolie> You and me both.  I'm told that the dongle will arrive tomorrow.
Apr 14 21:45:24 <[g2]> JTAG dongle ?
Apr 14 21:45:25 <beewoolie> Don't get me wrong about the restore.  I like it a lot.
Apr 14 21:45:39 <beewoolie> ka6sox said he sent it earlier this week.
Apr 14 21:46:39 <[g2]> Well I've got two dongles and I may solder up the JTAG on APEX Slug
Apr 14 21:47:04 <[g2]> but I might just skip it until I really need it or I've not nothing better to do than futz with soldering
Apr 14 21:47:56 <beewoolie> Are you putting APEX on the slug without a jtag?
Apr 14 21:48:15 <jacques> brave :-)
Apr 14 21:48:16 <[g2]> I put APEX on my slug today without JTAG and without serial
Apr 14 21:48:32 <[g2]> no, I ran fine on the Avila board that's got JTAG
Apr 14 21:48:39 <[g2]> no, It
Apr 14 21:48:58 <[g2]> the Ethernet even works there for some unknown reasion
Apr 14 21:49:01 <[g2]> reason
Apr 14 21:49:35 <[g2]> So I flipped a coin about which Slug to risk, serial enabled and non-serial enabled
Apr 14 21:49:52 <[g2]> I figured if it died, I'd serial enable it
Apr 14 21:50:12 <[g2]> I could see from the LEDs that it booted fine, but the ethernet was done
Apr 14 21:50:26 <jacques> whoa! APEX on the slug supports the builtin NIC now??
Apr 14 21:50:57 <[g2]> jacques, APEX doesn't use the NIC
Apr 14 21:51:03 <jacques> ah
Apr 14 21:51:15 <[g2]> and Linux doesn't initialize it fully yet on the Slug
Apr 14 21:51:31 <[g2]> It works fine on the Avila board from Gateworks
Apr 14 21:51:42 <[g2]> But that's got the full boat
Apr 14 21:51:43 <[g2]> serial
Apr 14 21:51:46 <[g2]> jta
Apr 14 21:51:48 <[g2]> jtag
Apr 14 21:51:51 <[g2]> and GigE
Apr 14 21:52:07 <[g2]> on a minipci card that I added
Apr 14 21:52:19 <[g2]> it just missing USB2.0
Apr 14 21:52:32 <beewoolie> jacques: Do you know what CS 4, 5, and 7 are connected to on the slug?
Apr 14 21:52:49 <jacques> beewoolie, sorry, I don't :-(
Apr 14 21:52:50 <[g2]> It's NPE functionality
Apr 14 21:53:20 <[g2]> at least 4 and 7 iirc from the diff code I was looking at a couple minutes ago
Apr 14 21:53:32 <beewoolie> [g2]: You've got some nerve flashing a bootloader without jtag.
Apr 14 21:53:33 <[g2]> it didn't seem like stuff we'd be using
Apr 14 21:54:11 <[g2]> beewoolie, not really. I checked it all out for a couple days on the avila board
Apr 14 21:54:24 <[g2]> the boards are *nearly* identical
Apr 14 21:54:24 <beewoolie> [g2]: What do you mean?  I didn't do any looking for the address ranges for these CS's, so I only know that those CSs are initialized.
Apr 14 21:54:53 <[g2]> you know that diff file ?
Apr 14 21:55:00 <beewoolie> [g2]: There's a hitch with the command line override.
Apr 14 21:55:20 <beewoolie> Looks like there is no way to remove a string config option once it's been set.
Apr 14 21:55:28 <[g2]> doh... I dislilke irc eating /
Apr 14 21:55:35 <[g2]> in the file
Apr 14 21:55:41 <[g2]> "/CS._
Apr 14 21:56:03 <[g2]> I can give you line numbers if you like
Apr 14 21:56:58 <[g2]> What would be good is that the CS mapping fixes the SLUG, and we check the Avila mapping and it's already mapped
Apr 14 21:57:07 <[g2]> then it kinda be case closed
Apr 14 21:58:01 <beewoolie> I'm not following you.
Apr 14 21:58:31 <[g2]> The Ethernet works on the Avila but not the Slug right ?
Apr 14 21:58:32 <beewoolie> There doesn't appear to be any reference to 0x5400 in the patch.  This would be the address of cs4.  0x54000000.
Apr 14 21:59:12 <beewoolie> go on.
Apr 14 21:59:22 <[g2]> I guess you didn't look for the CS references 
Apr 14 21:59:43 <[g2]> back to the story
Apr 14 22:00:09 <[g2]> Ok I'm *guessing* that it *might* be as you suggested that the CS isn't mapped
Apr 14 22:00:26 <[g2]> therefore, the init code can't fully init the NPEs
Apr 14 22:00:41 <beewoolie> I still don't know what you mean.
Apr 14 22:00:47 <[g2]> hence the look like they are working, but don't pass traffice
Apr 14 22:00:47 <beewoolie> What is CS mapped?
Apr 14 22:01:09 <beewoolie> I did look for CS references, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Apr 14 22:02:42 <[g2]> +#define CS4_BASE_ADDRESS  0x54000000
Apr 14 22:03:23 <beewoolie> It's commented out in the code.
Apr 14 22:04:06 <beewoolie> It take that back.  It depends on EFG120V2.
Apr 14 22:04:23 <beewoolie> Which looks like an LED thingy.
Apr 14 22:04:55 <beewoolie> This may be a huge red herring.
Apr 14 22:05:03 <[g2]> It very well may be
Apr 14 22:05:15 <[g2]> that's why I've been waiting for the code
Apr 14 22:05:42 <[g2]> it's probably nothing, however, there *is* some reason it runs on the Avila board and not the Slug
Apr 14 22:05:51 <beewoolie> Right.
Apr 14 22:05:58 <[g2]> And I'm sure sooner or later we'll find the answer
Apr 14 22:06:09 <[g2]> or ask somebody who can tell us
Apr 14 22:07:10 <beewoolie> If you know someone who can tell us what redboot does on the slug that's important, please do.
Apr 14 22:07:20 <[g2]> So lets leave this herring alone until we check with 1.2.8
Apr 14 22:07:30 <beewoolie> It already up.
Apr 14 22:07:43 <[g2]> you posted it ?
Apr 14 22:07:52 <beewoolie> I'm looking at the default command line.  There's a hitch in the configuration.
Apr 14 22:07:57 <beewoolie> yeah.  About 30 minutes ago.
Apr 14 22:09:37 <[g2]> you could have told me :)
Apr 14 22:09:51 <beewoolie> I did.
Apr 14 22:10:16 <beewoolie> Look at 12:31
Apr 14 22:18:08 <[g2]> AH...
Apr 14 22:18:23 <[g2]> Sorry... It's been a long day and I missed that
Apr 14 22:18:30 <beewoolie> There is a side-effect to this default command line.  Doing the override will make the old environment invalid.
Apr 14 22:18:32 <beewoolie> NP.
Apr 14 22:18:59 <beewoolie> There isn't a risk, but it does mean that the environment cannot be set if an old one is present in flash.
Apr 14 22:19:07 <beewoolie> I'll post this as version 1.2.9.
Apr 14 22:19:27 <[g2]> Ok, I'll just grab the highest number tomorrow
Apr 14 22:19:39 <[g2]> I've got to head off from some sleep
Apr 14 22:20:53 <[g2]> beewoolie, THX for all the great help and support!
Apr 14 22:21:00 <[g2]> I'm stoked about APEX
Apr 14 22:21:12 <beewoolie> np.
Apr 14 22:21:22 <beewoolie> I'm running a build test and then I'll post it.
Apr 14 22:21:47 <beewoolie> I appreciate the help you're giving me. 
Apr 14 22:21:58 <[g2]> well it's about time
Apr 14 22:22:20 <[g2]> I'm glad I'm JTAG capable on the Avila.
Apr 14 22:22:26 <[g2]> That was the key
Apr 14 22:22:49 <beewoolie> yeah.  I really wish we knew what was the hitch with the NPE initialization.
Apr 14 22:22:50 <[g2]> after running APEX for a while from flash
Apr 14 22:23:17 <[g2]> it's really not much of a roadblock at all for me
Apr 14 22:23:24 <beewoolie> It's also interesting that redboot is using an old version of the NPElibraries.  V1.0
Apr 14 22:23:26 <ka6sox> hey [g2] 
Apr 14 22:23:40 <beewoolie> hey, ka6sox 
Apr 14 22:23:42 <[g2]> I've got a usb2.0 ethernet link or a usb-to-usb link
Apr 14 22:23:45 <ka6sox> hey beewoolie 
Apr 14 22:23:46 <[g2]> hey ka6sox 
Apr 14 22:23:55 <ka6sox> did you get my earlier messages?
Apr 14 22:24:09 <[g2]> I probably missed it. :(
Apr 14 22:24:10 <beewoolie> [g2]: I pushed 1.2.9.
Apr 14 22:24:16 <[g2]> cool
Apr 14 22:24:23 <beewoolie> It's in the environment section.
Apr 14 22:24:40 <[g2]> ka6sox, what was it ?
Apr 14 22:24:47 <ka6sox> about the fatslug.
Apr 14 22:25:49 <[g2]> the solder bridges and vegas ?
Apr 14 22:25:53 <ka6sox> yeah
Apr 14 22:25:58 <[g2]> yeah.
Apr 14 22:26:08 <[g2]> have fun in vegas
Apr 14 22:26:13 <ka6sox> its work.
Apr 14 22:26:24 <[g2]> all the better right ?
Apr 14 22:26:32 <[g2]> getting paid to go to vegas
Apr 14 22:26:34 <ka6sox> yeah...
Apr 14 22:26:42 <ka6sox> I'll stay out of the Casino's
Apr 14 22:26:45 <ka6sox> Lost Wages.
Apr 14 22:27:10 <ka6sox> I don't relish driving 12 hrs with a torn rotator cuff.
Apr 14 22:27:27 <[g2]> you should fly out
Apr 14 22:27:36 <ka6sox> I can't get a flight.
Apr 14 22:27:44 <ka6sox> its full already.
Apr 14 22:27:56 <ka6sox> (little airplanes from here to there.)\
Apr 14 22:28:21 <[g2]> well LAX is only a couple hours away right ?
Apr 14 22:28:39 <ka6sox> yeah...looking up flights from Burbank.
Apr 14 22:28:50 <ka6sox> that is 1.5hrs away
Apr 14 22:28:57 <[g2]> even better :)
Apr 14 22:29:18 <[g2]> So have you guys seen the ixp46x chips ?
Apr 14 22:29:27 <beewoolie> Don't know about them.
Apr 14 22:29:41 <[g2]> speeds up to 667
Apr 14 22:29:45 <[g2]> Usb2.0
Apr 14 22:29:49 <[g2]> DDR2
Apr 14 22:29:53 <beewoolie> Hey.
Apr 14 22:29:56 <[g2]> 32MB to a Gig
Apr 14 22:30:06 <[g2]> and PCI 32 but 33/66
Apr 14 22:30:28 <jacques> is burbank same as OC ?
Apr 14 22:30:44 <beewoolie> I don't think so.
Apr 14 22:30:50 <beewoolie> OC is John Wayne.
Apr 14 22:31:12 <jacques> ah OK
Apr 14 22:31:20 <jacques> I flew out of OC last year
Apr 14 22:31:52 <ka6sox> funny...John Wayne hated the airport when he was alive.
Apr 14 22:31:53 <[g2]> So after we get the APEX stuff sorted out, then it'll be on to JTAG debugging and OpenJTAG
Apr 14 22:32:10 * beewoolie celebrates
Apr 14 22:32:28 <jacques> and I bet douglas adams would hate the new hitchhiker's guide movie
Apr 14 22:32:38 <[g2]> 1.2.9 ? APEX sorted out ? or OpenJTAG ?
Apr 14 22:32:39 <beewoolie> Night, folks.
Apr 14 22:32:42 <ka6sox> yeah...so I've heard from my Brit friends.
Apr 14 22:32:44 <ka6sox> nite beewoolie 
Apr 14 22:33:02 <[g2]> nite, but what was the celebration ?
Apr 14 22:33:11 * beewoolie like to celebrate
Apr 14 22:33:50 <[g2]> well solderboy is off to sleep
Apr 14 22:33:57 <ka6sox> nite solderboy
Apr 14 22:34:16 <[g2]> now I've got 2 serial slugs and The avila which has serial and JTAG
Apr 14 22:34:26 <[g2]> and I've got a JTAG connector that reflashes
Apr 14 22:34:28 <ka6sox> :-)
Apr 14 22:35:01 <[g2]> I'll chat with you guys tomorrow
Apr 14 22:35:04 <[g2]> nite
Apr 14 22:35:20 <ka6sox> rats....
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