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Apr 28 00:00:39 <beewoolie> Nite all.
Apr 28 00:00:59 <ka6sox-web> nite Beewoolie
Apr 28 11:04:13 <[g2]> I'm forking OpenSlug I'm getting ready to send out the email
Apr 28 11:04:38 <beewoolie-akf> What's the issue?
Apr 28 11:07:30 <jacques> uh
Apr 28 11:07:46 <jacques> aren't you the main openslug developer?
Apr 28 11:08:02 <[g2]> jacques, yeah... :)
Apr 28 11:08:05 <jacques> I've never heard of the main developer forking a project before :-)
Apr 28 11:08:19 * [g2] needs to be different :)
Apr 28 11:08:59 <beewoolie-akf> qbot: fork [g2], please
Apr 28 11:09:00 <qbot> beewoolie-akf: i haven't a clue
Apr 28 11:09:37 <[g2]> beewoolie-akf, ok so for the Machine Name: should I put Linksys NSLU2 ?
Apr 28 11:09:50 <beewoolie-akf> Don't we already have one of those?
Apr 28 11:10:09 <beewoolie-akf> I think I need more info on what, exactly, you are doing.
Apr 28 11:10:15 <[g2]> nod, I'm doing a different one 
Apr 28 11:11:23 <[g2]> beewoolie-akf, you're BCC'd on the e-mail
Apr 28 11:11:31 <[g2]> it just went to the yahoo group
Apr 28 11:12:10 <beewoolie-akf> Are you talking about dropping the NPE support in the kernel?  
Apr 28 11:13:49 <[g2]> nod.
Apr 28 11:14:10 <beewoolie-akf> I don't think you need a new ID for that.
Apr 28 11:14:38 <[g2]> I was thinking to avoid some confusion
Apr 28 11:14:43 <ka6sox-office> we have an ID for NSLU2
Apr 28 11:15:15 <[g2]> a couple months from now or much later Intel may have a clean license agreement and we could release OpenSlug as a binary with Intel support
Apr 28 11:15:26 <beewoolie-akf> The only reason to change IDs is if there is a material difference in the kernel.  You can run either the freeslug kernel or the openslug kernel on the same hw.  It would be advantageous to allow either without a bootloader change.
Apr 28 11:15:40 <[g2]> but we still couldn't include binding it statically with the kernel like we can with other drivers
Apr 28 11:16:45 <beewoolie-akf> NP.  all I'm saying is that the ID can be the same.  Look at it this way.  I can build two different kernels for my 79520.  One has drivers built in and the other has modules.  Both work.  Same ID.
Apr 28 11:17:01 <[g2]> Well I'll probably link the USB stuff in statically, then the kernel can directly mount root via NFS
Apr 28 11:17:16 <[g2]> We're are probably running out of room with Redboot
Apr 28 11:17:34 <beewoolie-akf> Right.  My concern is that an ID change will preclude users upgrading their kernel.
Apr 28 11:17:47 <beewoolie-akf> I don't really me upgrade, actually, but changing it.
Apr 28 11:17:52 <[g2]> I'll hold of on the registery for now
Apr 28 11:17:52 <beewoolie-akf> s/me/mean/
Apr 28 11:18:02 <beewoolie-akf> Other than that, go for it.
Apr 28 11:18:10 <beewoolie-akf> I'd be really happy to see a release.
Apr 28 11:18:27 <beewoolie-akf> I think I even have a USB network adapter lying around
Apr 28 11:18:31 <[g2]> I'll setup a poll on Yahoo
Apr 28 11:18:43 <jacques> that sounds useful
Apr 28 11:18:43 <[g2]> To see what the interest is
Apr 28 11:19:03 <[g2]> There's no need to release if ppl aren't interested
Apr 28 11:19:12 <beewoolie-akf> let me take another side here.
Apr 28 11:19:20 <beewoolie-akf> Why ask?  Why not just do it?  
Apr 28 11:19:32 <[g2]> I am just doing it
Apr 28 11:19:43 <beewoolie-akf> you *can't* release the Intel enabled kernel.  so, release one that isn't and get on with it.
Apr 28 11:20:14 <[g2]> Acutally, I can't release the Intel kernel but I too chicken
Apr 28 11:20:33 <[g2]> I don't think it's wrong, I just to totally crystal clear
Apr 28 11:20:44 <[g2]> so I'm avoiding the entire issue
Apr 28 11:20:48 <beewoolie-akf> Huh?
Apr 28 11:21:20 <[g2]> The Intel wrappers for CSR are supposed to be GPL
Apr 28 11:21:22 <beewoolie-akf> BTW, I hope you are including support for the Linksys USB100M USB adapter.
Apr 28 11:21:34 <[g2]> I don't have a USB100M
Apr 28 11:21:44 <[g2]> dunno which chip's in there
Apr 28 11:21:46 <beewoolie-akf> I just mean a driver for it.
Apr 28 11:21:54 <beewoolie-akf> Hmm.  I don't either.
Apr 28 11:21:55 <[g2]> is it usbnet ?
Apr 28 11:22:04 <beewoolie-akf> I don't know what that is.
Apr 28 11:22:20 <beewoolie-akf> Let me plug it in.
Apr 28 11:23:02 <beewoolie-akf> It's wimpy.  12Mb device
Apr 28 11:24:01 <beewoolie-akf> Still, it would be OK for a stop-gap and it is faster than my DSL.
Apr 28 11:24:17 <[g2]> nod
Apr 28 16:38:13 <prpplague> beewoolie: hey, whats the current status of the lh79520 support in 2.6 kernel?
Apr 28 16:38:31 <prpplague> beewoolie: i see the logic pd board is registered under your name 
Apr 28 16:56:12 <beewoolie> prpplague: I'd have to check it again.  I think that I've done a complete port for that board.  I don't know if I've published the patches, though.
Apr 28 16:56:24 <beewoolie> bbiaw
Apr 28 16:56:29 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: ok
Apr 28 16:56:44 <beewoolie-afk> prpplague: Do you need it?
Apr 28 16:56:56 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: possible
Apr 28 16:57:04 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: just now looking at 2.6
Apr 28 16:57:07 <beewoolie-afk> Actually, I remember that there may be an issue with the CF driver.  I don't completely remember, though.
Apr 28 16:57:15 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: still working with 2.4
Apr 28 16:57:54 <beewoolie-afk> There aren't many differences between the 79524 and the 79520.  I think I got a wild hair and pushed through all of the necessary changes just to see if it all works.
Apr 28 16:58:18 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: i'll pull a copy of 2.6 and have a look
Apr 28 16:58:29 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: will you be around tomorrow?
Apr 28 16:58:38 <beewoolie-afk> Usually.
Apr 28 16:58:48 <beewoolie-afk> It looks like I may have done this in February.
Apr 28 16:59:06 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: so it should be in the standard 2.6 tree?
Apr 28 16:59:27 <beewoolie-afk> Yeah, there is a whole bunch of 79520 specific files in the arch directory.
Apr 28 16:59:29 <beewoolie-afk> No.
Apr 28 16:59:35 <beewoolie-afk> None of this has been added to the kernel tree.
Apr 28 16:59:40 <prpplague> ahh ok
Apr 28 16:59:43 <beewoolie-afk> It may be in my patches, or it may not.
Apr 28 16:59:50 <beewoolie-afk> I'll look at it later tonight.
Apr 28 16:59:52 <beewoolie-afk> ttfn
Apr 28 16:59:53 <prpplague> ok, then
Apr 28 16:59:56 <prpplague> later
Apr 28 17:00:57 <prpplague> beewoolie-afk: thanks
Apr 28 20:06:23 <kas11> get your toy, [g2]?
Apr 28 20:06:31 <[g2]> a couple :)
Apr 28 20:06:49 <kas11> omi...I only heard about one
Apr 28 20:07:13 <kas11> or did you get 2 rv042s?
Apr 28 20:07:19 <[g2]> I've taken them apart even before applying power :)
Apr 28 20:07:33 <[g2]> actually, the rv042 and rv082
Apr 28 20:07:45 <[g2]> the mini-itx toy arrives next week
Apr 28 20:07:52 <kas11> why of course...gotta have a looksee
Apr 28 20:08:21 <kas11> I always like to rub elbows with rich people ;)
Apr 28 20:08:21 <[g2]> the rv042 has an ixp425BB and the rv082 has an IXP425BD
Apr 28 20:08:39 <[g2]> can you introduce me to some ?
Apr 28 20:08:47 <kas11> uh huh...I saw they were a bit diff last nite googling
Apr 28 20:09:25 <kas11> [g2]...meet [g2] who just dropped a bundle on assorted toys
Apr 28 20:09:40 <[g2]> $156 for an RV042 is hardly a bundle
Apr 28 20:10:33 <kas11> you haven't looked at my checkbook lately,  guess ;)
Apr 28 20:11:18 <[g2]> well last I heard you were on a quite a spending spree getting toys
Apr 28 20:11:41 <kas11> but I shouldn't talk...I was seriously contemplating a 23" LCD just last week
Apr 28 20:11:56 <[g2]> I'm gonna be doing some proof-of-concepts and some benchmarking
Apr 28 20:12:10 <[g2]> at the Apple store ?
Apr 28 20:12:10 <kas11> but I had to pawn off stuff before I did....*lol*
Apr 28 20:13:33 <kas11> no....another Dell...won't buy their computers but I like their LCDs and they get here in one day...I am an immediate gratification sort of grrrl
Apr 28 20:13:51 <prpplague> one of these is my next purchase - http://www.9xmedia.com/pages-Build_a_system/X-Top_Design_a_system-Configurations.html
Apr 28 20:16:53 <[g2]> prpplague, what I start buying stuff like that you'll know I've made it :)
Apr 28 20:17:55 <prpplague> hehe
Apr 28 20:20:30 * kas11 pictures [g2]'s video wall displaying the output of a serial console
Apr 28 20:23:58 <kas11> 16 ft x 9 ft video wall....2"x2" computer
Apr 28 20:39:04 <kas11> getting the Centos DVD on bittorrent...'tis nice to have the torrent hosted about 15 miles down the road...I was seeing 580+ KB/s within 20 sec of starting
Apr 28 20:57:38 <[g2]> nite all
Apr 28 21:23:26 <kas11> damn, that sure is a friendly place...*not*
Apr 28 21:25:01 * kas11 notes sarcasm dripping on the floor
Apr 28 21:26:09 <jacques> hmm? which place?
Apr 28 21:26:22 * kas11 wishes she wasn't always biting her tongue *lol*
Apr 28 21:27:15 <kas11> [g2] had the temerity to ask about the build process in #centos
Apr 28 21:27:16 * [g2] hugs kas11 
Apr 28 21:27:27 <[g2]> actually -devel first
Apr 28 21:27:50 * jacques is also trying to find a way to get some LCD goodness.
Apr 28 21:28:36 * kas11 loves her 2001FPs
Apr 28 22:22:07 <kas11> ttyl
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