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Apr 29 03:45:33 <[g2]> dyoung, so you've been playing around with the digilent FGPA board right ?
Apr 29 03:48:57 <dyoung> Yes.
Apr 29 03:49:01 <dyoung> Not gotten so far...
Apr 29 11:12:55 <[g2]> dyoung, beewoolie around ?
Apr 29 11:13:14 <beewoolie> [g2]: bw in the house
Apr 29 11:14:01 <beewoolie> Have you installed the serial port header yet?
Apr 29 11:14:07 <[g2]> no
Apr 29 11:14:13 <[g2]> I don't have the header
Apr 29 11:14:15 <beewoolie> It's been hours!
Apr 29 11:14:29 <[g2]> it'd be days
Apr 29 11:14:37 <[g2]> I was thinking about reflashing though
Apr 29 11:14:39 <beewoolie> ;-p
Apr 29 11:15:18 <beewoolie> qbot: dub [g2] sir-flash-alot
Apr 29 11:15:18 <qbot> beewoolie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
Apr 29 11:15:20 <[g2]> Have you pulled the v 1.31 firmware file ?
Apr 29 11:15:34 <beewoolie> [g2]: yeah.  that's what I'm running.
Apr 29 11:15:43 <[g2]> so you've got one too ?
Apr 29 11:16:02 <beewoolie> I bought one of the rv042's for a client.
Apr 29 11:16:31 <[g2]> I'm wondering if I can just take the image apart and add a telnet daemon to start
Apr 29 11:17:24 <beewoolie> Hmm.  You could probably do it.  It depends on the format of the filesystem in the image.
Apr 29 11:17:37 <beewoolie> If you have source, you could also build a new image, no?
Apr 29 11:17:41 <[g2]> that's why I was looking for an extra pair of eyes :)
Apr 29 11:17:59 <[g2]> they don't have the source for everything.
Apr 29 11:18:07 * beewoolie hands [g2] a couple of spelling blocks.
Apr 29 11:18:19 <beewoolie> What seems to be missing?
Apr 29 11:18:25 <[g2]> that would make way too much sense
Apr 29 11:18:51 <[g2]> Oh... bootloader, checksum routines, possibly OpenRG code, ... the list goes on
Apr 29 11:19:09 <[g2]> toolchains, ....
Apr 29 11:19:21 <beewoolie> Hmm.  It might be a task that requires an image decomposer along with some buld tools.
Apr 29 11:19:26 <beewoolie> Toolchains are easy.
Apr 29 11:20:54 <[g2]> IFlash 042-STD.Hardware: IXDP425.Source: IXDP425_NETKLASS.Version: 10301 looks interesting 
Apr 29 11:21:07 <beewoolie> Where was that?
Apr 29 11:21:20 <[g2]> In the first 64 bytes of the .rmt file
Apr 29 11:21:29 <[g2]> maybe even 32
Apr 29 11:21:30 <beewoolie> Hmm.
Apr 29 11:22:11 <beewoolie> to be honest, I don't have BW for that kind of work at the moment.  I'm going to put my shoulder behind the slug when I get done with this milestone.
Apr 29 11:22:35 <[g2]> honesty is very good, thx
Apr 29 11:22:55 <[g2]> lets get the USB irq thing straightened out
Apr 29 11:23:11 <beewoolie> Indeed.
Apr 29 11:48:01 <beewoolie> [g2]: You may be better off pulling the image out of these devices, after they're installed, than attempting to decode the file itself.
Apr 29 11:48:51 <[g2]> maybe... but several ppl have been in the device so far
Apr 29 11:49:15 <beewoolie> How did they get in?  Serial? JTAG?
Apr 29 11:49:29 <[g2]> probably serial
Apr 29 11:52:32 <[g2]> I think I'm getting warmer
Apr 29 12:01:57 <[g2]> I"m getting really warm :)
Apr 29 12:02:46 <[g2]> doh....
Apr 29 12:06:50 <beewoolie> time for plastic pants?
Apr 29 12:07:22 <[g2]> don't think so
Apr 29 12:07:41 <[g2]> I *thought* was getting warmer
Apr 29 16:50:39 <[g2]> hi guys
Apr 29 16:50:42 * rwhitby is vacuuming, so responses may be delayed
Apr 29 16:50:54 <[g2]> I"ve got the header soldered on the rv042
Apr 29 16:51:20 <[g2]> it still boots and now I just need to jumper the pins from a different 3.3 level shifter
Apr 29 16:51:31 <rwhitby> the "Revvy" :-)
Apr 29 16:51:35 <[g2]> the unit boots fine after my soldering
Apr 29 16:52:07 <[g2]> you guys wouldn't happen to have come across which pins I'd need to connect by chance ?
Apr 29 16:52:55 <rwhitby> nope
Apr 29 16:53:31 <rwhitby> you should be able to find 3.3V and GND by looking at the traces and surrounding polarized components (like electrolytic caps) and then just trail and error TX and RX
Apr 29 16:54:32 <[g2]> that sounds like a plan, if I knew when end of the cap was plus and minus :)
Apr 29 16:57:38 <rwhitby> the big ones have it marked on them.
Apr 29 16:57:49 <rwhitby> you can always power up and test with a voltmeter too
Apr 29 16:57:59 <rwhitby> I would guess the end pins to be power and ground
Apr 29 16:59:12 <rwhitby> ok, looking at the photo, I would guess 1,3,5,7,9 are GND
Apr 29 16:59:20 <rwhitby> 2 is VCC
Apr 29 16:59:34 <rwhitby> and 4,6,8,10 are two sets of RX and TX
Apr 29 17:00:05 <rwhitby> look for pullups on the RX signals
Apr 29 17:00:18 <rwhitby> do you have a picture of the underside of that area?
Apr 29 17:00:49 <[g2]> nod.
Apr 29 17:01:05 <[g2]> I can post to the gallery
Apr 29 17:01:27 <rwhitby> pin 2 is probably connected to the + terminal of CA13 (the big empty circle) - another indication of VCC
Apr 29 17:02:25 <rwhitby> if you have a digital pulse tester, you can look for activity on the TX pins during boot (console messages)
Apr 29 17:02:48 <rwhitby> can't see any pullups - maybe the ixp has them internal
Apr 29 17:03:15 <beewoolie> [g2]: Dude.  That rocks.
Apr 29 17:04:57 <[g2]> you guys rock!
Apr 29 17:06:38 <rwhitby> [g2]: registered rv042-linux.org yet?
Apr 29 17:06:53 <beewoolie> ...here we go...
Apr 29 17:07:01 <[g2]> I've got alot bigger plans :)
Apr 29 17:08:00 <[g2]> Ok there's a 3rd pic from the bottom there
Apr 29 17:10:30 <[g2]> there are no traces on the bottom
Apr 29 17:10:36 <[g2]> only on the top
Apr 29 17:10:52 <jacques> multi-layer?
Apr 29 17:11:07 <beewoolie> [g2]: It looks like the bottom row is all ground.
Apr 29 17:11:48 <rwhitby> [g2]: pin2 may still be vcc connected on an internal plane
Apr 29 17:11:54 <rwhitby> or maybe there is no power on that header
Apr 29 17:12:13 <beewoolie> Same on the other side. All odd pins are ground.
Apr 29 17:12:31 <rwhitby> beewoolie: didn't I just say that before? :-)
Apr 29 17:12:42 <beewoolie> I didn't read everything.  Sorry.
Apr 29 17:12:46 <rwhitby> np
Apr 29 17:12:58 <rwhitby> the more heads the better :-)
Apr 29 17:13:24 <[g2]> amen to that and you guys are good heads ! :)
Apr 29 17:13:34 <beewoolie> It is interesting that there are, seemingly, four signal pins.
Apr 29 17:15:35 <rwhitby> Pinky: "What are we going to do tonight, [g2]?"  [g2]: "Same thing we do every night Pinky, try to take over the world!"
Apr 29 17:15:39 <beewoolie> rwhitby: Isn't the bit empty circle really BT1?
Apr 29 17:16:13 <rwhitby> indeed yes
Apr 29 17:16:35 <rwhitby> beewoolie: two UARTS
Apr 29 17:16:44 <rwhitby> or maybe RTS and CTS if you are very lucky
Apr 29 17:16:50 <beewoolie> The fact that the + pad for the battery has no attachments is further indication that they are using a power plane.
Apr 29 17:16:58 <beewoolie> rwhitby: Hmm.  Interesting.
Apr 29 17:17:16 <beewoolie> That could be handy.
Apr 29 17:17:27 <rwhitby> hardware flow control - high speed serial
Apr 29 17:18:57 <beewoolie> I'd really doubt that they'd put in rts/cts, but it is possible.  Usually, these lines also require DTR and DSR.
Apr 29 17:20:30 <[g2]> hey I'm just trying to make a little sw work
Apr 29 17:21:25 <[g2]> I'd guess that the 4 signal pins are COM1 and COM2
Apr 29 17:22:58 <[g2]> OK, I can dig up the volt meter and verify 3.3 and GND
Apr 29 17:23:56 <[g2]> then I can probe for the TX from the IXP to the level-shifter
Apr 29 17:24:07 <[g2]> then find the RX and we should be all set
Apr 29 17:24:26 <[g2]> I'll be back later
Apr 29 17:24:34 <rwhitby> ok
Apr 29 17:24:42 <[g2]> THX for all the help!
Apr 29 19:25:28 <[g2]> hey dyoung
Apr 29 19:54:40 <[g2]> beewoolie, around ?
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