**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 31 23:59:56 2005 Jun 01 15:26:00 all these yrs fooling around with Fedora without trying apt/Synaptic...sheeesh Jun 01 15:29:34 apt-get upgrade fedora Jun 01 15:33:20 C3 is pretty well up to date...I generally let Up2Date do its thing....but there is no graphical way in stock Fedora to see what the hell is installed...Synaptic does an excellent job of that Jun 01 15:34:10 FC3 even Jun 01 15:35:36 I had to dink around with Ubuntu and putting up with their lame mailing lists for a month before going back to try FC3/Synaptic Jun 01 15:42:39 with apt-emerge, I could even live with gentoo *lol* Jun 01 15:53:51 my msg about the juicebox seems to have disappeared into the ether.../. sez they are selling for $12 which might be hard to pass up for those with a uclinux bent. Jun 01 15:54:56 prolly higher in HI tho ;) Jun 01 15:59:31 evening kas11 Jun 01 16:00:44 hey jacques ;) Jun 01 16:07:43 Oh? Jun 01 16:07:48 $12? Jun 01 16:07:52 Sign me up! Jun 01 16:08:22 I should probably go do something productive now. Jun 01 16:08:24 back later. Jun 01 16:09:35 this damn thing is loosing half of my messages Jun 01 16:12:19 ..../. said thats what Target and Walmart were selling them for...I just glanced at the blurb...I am resisting the urge Jun 01 16:12:49 ah...there is the prob... can't lead off with /. Jun 01 16:13:30 you gotta do // Jun 01 16:13:32 /. Jun 01 16:13:41 10-4 Jun 01 16:13:54 I found that by accident because my Mac Keyboard likes to double tap. Jun 01 16:15:12 oic ... I'm just a little slow...only did it 3 times before I figured out why is was bitchin about unknown commands Jun 01 16:15:55 thats some peoples definition of insanity. "Doing the same thing over and over expecting differnt results" :-) Jun 01 16:16:03 Like me and vending machines and quarters..... Jun 01 16:16:17 "By working with industry leaders to extend support for RAW in Windows, we are removing the obstacles for consumer use of RAW and enabling a seamless platform for the next era of digital imaging innovation." Jun 01 16:16:25 this insanity must stop Jun 01 16:16:39 MS is going to add RAW support to windows Jun 01 16:16:45 *LOL* I didn't think about it...comes from typing with my eyes down, I guess Jun 01 16:16:57 now just what do you suppose are the "obstacles" he refers to above? Jun 01 16:17:14 why, any app which does RAW now Jun 01 16:17:35 before long, only windows will handle RAW and it will all be DRM'd Jun 01 16:18:09 and there is wonderful news that you can soon get a Wintel mac mini sorta thing...open relays in a nicer package Jun 01 16:19:05 * jacques waits for MS to announce VOIP in Longhorn. Jun 01 16:19:22 yet another software niche will be obliterated Jun 01 16:19:44 I shrunk my last HPFS partition the other day,,,unfortunately, parted worked...I was hoping for a malfunction Jun 01 16:19:59 oh, why's that? Jun 01 16:20:13 excuse to reinstall? Jun 01 16:20:18 upgrade to tiger? Jun 01 16:20:32 I would then have any temptation to run XP removed... Jun 01 16:21:29 http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7448 Jun 01 16:21:35 now back later. ;-) Jun 01 16:21:43 in a momnet of weakness, I installed it again to run the Xilinx tools and friends... Jun 01 16:23:21 *lol* I saw that...and the mention that there is *no* s/w for it presently....which makes it about as powerful as my Digilent board Jun 01 16:23:33 yeah, well there still isn't an alternative to run those tools is there? you are forgiven Jun 01 16:23:48 <[g2]> HEY kas11 Jun 01 16:24:03 hiya [g2] ;) Jun 01 16:24:21 <[g2]> how goes kas11 ? Jun 01 16:24:39 I am currently searching for apt-emerge :) Jun 01 16:24:42 <[g2]> hey jacques ! Jun 01 16:24:57 <[g2]> solar's working on that Jun 01 16:25:12 doing good here....how goes it up that way? Jun 01 16:25:21 <[g2]> awesome thx Jun 01 16:25:40 <[g2]> I pickup my first article of the fatslug rework tomorrow Jun 01 16:26:11 <[g2]> kas11, I don't know if you heard much about that Jun 01 16:27:25 I've been doing ubuntu here lately...I love synaptic but otherwise....I guess FC4 is on my agenda again since Synaptic seems to be playing ok with FC3 Jun 01 16:28:00 [g2] I knew you were brewing something up Jun 01 16:29:01 I knew you had Apex working Jun 01 16:29:46 <[g2]> yep APEX is working, but I've been talking to a rework shop to have units reworked Jun 01 16:30:08 <[g2]> I'll be picking up the first unit tomorrow Jun 01 16:30:16 <[g2]> the work is all done Jun 01 16:30:25 <[g2]> I've seen the pretty pictures Jun 01 16:30:38 [g2], how long did it take them to do the rework? Jun 01 16:30:43 I have vowed to save my sheckles until they exceed the cost of an X2....so no new toys for me for a long time Jun 01 16:31:09 <[g2]> so I'll have a 64MB slug with serial header and JTAG header plus the AN13 pin Jun 01 16:31:40 * kas11 remembers when AMD was the low cost alternative Jun 01 16:31:55 kewl Jun 01 16:32:12 <[g2]> jacques, what do you mean how long ? Jun 01 16:32:48 [g2], how much time elapsed from when you took the boards in until you can pick them up Jun 01 16:33:10 <[g2]> well we waited for parts etc.... Jun 01 16:33:32 <[g2]> but I'm sure the turn-around time would be a day or two for the next batch Jun 01 16:33:56 ah very nice Jun 01 16:33:57 <[g2]> I should be getting quotes tomorrow for Q5, Q10 and Q50 Jun 01 16:34:40 <[g2]> I need to check on pin and sw compatibility with the X1226/7 part Jun 01 16:34:51 <[g2]> that's got a 4K eeprom on it Jun 01 16:35:06 <[g2]> the prices out at like $2.85 Q25 Jun 01 16:35:33 <[g2]> then we could store the mac address last sw version etc... away off flash Jun 01 16:36:00 neat Jun 01 16:36:24 <[g2]> kas11, I've also go a custom knoppix release Jun 01 16:36:44 knoppix doing GigE? Jun 01 16:38:28 <[g2]> the knoppix release is for the PC Jun 01 16:38:46 <[g2]> I've been running GigE on the AMD and on the avila for awhile Jun 01 16:39:15 what's the knoppix special for? Jun 01 16:39:37 <[g2]> it's builds openslug-image, unslung-image and all the openslug-packages :) Jun 01 16:40:07 kewl Jun 01 16:41:01 <[g2]> yeah... it's a backup/snapshot on a dvd Jun 01 16:41:32 <[g2]> just add x86, swap, tmp partition and cpu cycles ... boom image :) Jun 01 16:42:01 btw, x1205 outta work for the x1226 too...but no eeprom support...unless somehow as done anoter driver or hacked on the original Jun 01 16:43:16 I am even less coherent than usual...someone has done another driver or... Jun 01 16:43:56 <[g2]> kas11, nod.. we'd have to add the eeprom support Jun 01 16:45:26 just need to adjust the base address and block length...basic r/w stuff will be the same Jun 01 16:45:47 <[g2]> cool. Jun 01 16:48:45 the anyu2 stuff I was using is so stale now doing anything that way would be a lost cause Jun 01 16:51:40 <[g2]> kas11, you could look at the driver or use the DVD to build :) Jun 01 16:54:12 [g2] is there an .iso somewhere? Jun 01 16:54:21 <[g2]> not yet Jun 01 16:54:39 <[g2]> other than my hd Jun 01 16:55:04 <[g2]> it's the 940MB file I've been using for my ttcp benchmarks Jun 01 16:55:34 <[g2]> I've got the AMD ttcp'ing up nearly 400Mbs across the net Jun 01 16:56:00 let me know when there is and I will see about updating the driver Jun 01 16:56:05 <[g2]> which sends the file in like 23 or 26 seconds and that's fast enough for now Jun 01 16:56:43 <[g2]> hey everything even built on the amd64 Jun 01 16:56:59 <[g2]> I haven't run it yet but it all builds Jun 01 16:57:49 so you are chrooting to run it? Jun 01 16:58:07 oic...wip ;) Jun 01 16:58:33 <[g2]> I su openslug Jun 01 16:58:50 <[g2]> and build as a normal user Jun 01 16:59:58 I thought you meant you had booted the knoppix image and built from there Jun 01 17:00:34 <[g2]> I do Jun 01 17:36:57 [g2] I'll try to stop by on az regular basis to hear about progress on the dvd...shouldn't take long to do the eeprom support once I can build again....hopefully ntp wll be in the apps so I can look into that bug too Jun 01 17:37:30 <[g2]> ntp is fixed Jun 01 17:37:50 <[g2]> and the x1205 rtc code is all fixed Jun 01 17:38:06 <[g2]> jbowler fixed that stuff Jun 01 17:39:26 good enuff...y'all have it under control Jun 01 17:39:49 <[g2]> well we miss you kas11 Jun 01 17:40:09 <[g2]> you've done some great things for the project and us Jun 01 17:40:15 <[g2]> and we all thank-you Jun 01 17:40:40 <[g2]> Jacmet, and ep1220 are doing some very cool things Jun 01 17:40:57 <[g2]> I don't know if you heard about what ep1220 was doing Jun 01 17:48:17 no, but I don't subscribe to the lists ... with the OE switch, I sorta lost interest in the slug...I always was on a different agenda :) Jun 01 17:49:40 <[g2]> Jacmet, has got LE running Jun 01 17:50:03 <[g2]> ep1220 has a FTDI chip working with the serial and JTAG Jun 01 17:50:27 <[g2]> we're trying to use obscure instructions in the developer manual to load the mini I-cache up directly Jun 01 17:56:05 [g2], you know if any of the LE stuff is committed anywhere? Jun 01 17:56:40 <[g2]> jacques, not yet Jun 01 17:56:58 <[g2]> I'm trying to get baseline for the next OpenSlug release Jun 01 17:57:43 gotta go...y'all take care :) Jun 01 18:09:08 fiddling CSR 2.0 was a mistake. Jun 01 18:13:20 oh? Jun 01 18:15:51 <[g2]> OH? Jun 01 18:19:27 <[g2]> jacques, dyoung-web is holding out on us :0 Jun 01 18:30:21 the default configuration needs to have the microcode loaded from file through a device. Jun 01 18:30:27 its all so irritating. Jun 01 18:30:53 there seems to be an option in the linux loader modules that indicates doesnt have to do it that way, but... ?? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 01 23:59:56 2005