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Jun 03 11:23:51 <ka6sox-office> hiya ep1220 
Jun 03 11:24:09 <ka6sox-office> finally have a few minutes to work on the boards again today
Jun 03 11:28:45 <ep1220> hello ka6sox-away
Jun 03 11:30:08 <ep1220> So we might see a schematic soon ?
Jun 03 11:33:42 <ka6sox-office> I've got it up in another window now.
Jun 03 11:34:30 <ep1220> How happy are You with the GEDA tools ?
Jun 03 11:34:53 <ka6sox-office> for the projects that I've been doing they are okay
Jun 03 11:35:31 <ep1220> So far i only have installed them.
Jun 03 11:36:07 <ka6sox-office> PCB has a few stupid limitations but they may have been a necessity earlier.
Jun 03 11:37:02 <ep1220> Is the circuit finished ? Or still open ends ?
Jun 03 11:38:10 <ka6sox-office> design is finished but I'm taking a slightly different tack.
Jun 03 11:38:24 <ka6sox-office> no CPLD, just an OC chip
Jun 03 11:38:34 <ka6sox-office> (a real one)
Jun 03 11:39:34 <ep1220> And input connected directly to the 2232C ?
Jun 03 11:41:39 <ka6sox-office> yeah.
Jun 03 11:41:46 <ka6sox-office> although that might be a problem.
Jun 03 11:41:58 <ka6sox-office> (getting out my 2232 book.
Jun 03 11:42:12 <ep1220> Can the 2232 do 5V when powered on 3.3 ?
Jun 03 11:50:46 <ep1220> datasheet requires VIn < VCC+0.5V
Jun 03 11:51:16 <ka6sox-office> I'll just use the OC to do the conversion the other way too.
Jun 03 11:52:50 <ep1220> In this case: the OC might see different Hi Level on JTAG and FTDI side.
Jun 03 11:55:09 <ep1220> Which OC have you selected ?
Jun 03 11:57:41 <dyoung> wait.
Jun 03 11:57:54 <dyoung> why not just use a OC with a core voltage of 3.3V ?
Jun 03 11:58:07 <ka6sox-office> that is what I was looking at.
Jun 03 11:58:25 <dyoung> as long as whatever that device is can handle 5V in.
Jun 03 11:58:31 <ka6sox-office> gotta go offline..my help for a project has arrived.
Jun 03 11:59:55 <ep1220> dyoung: How important is <3.3V to you ?
Jun 03 12:00:10 <ep1220> On the JTAG side I mean.
Jun 03 12:10:25 <dyoung> It would mean being able to use it with the new generation of stuff or not.  I suppose its not *that* important.
Jun 03 12:10:33 <dyoung> but definitely a nice feature.
Jun 03 12:12:30 <ep1220> 3.3 to 5 only would be easier.
Jun 03 12:12:48 <ep1220> However we can check-out the OC way.
Jun 03 12:14:35 <ep1220> I'll wait till ka6sox-office tells us which OC chip he plans to use.
Jun 03 12:15:42 <ep1220> worst case might have to use one for JTAG->FTDI and one for FTDI->JTAG
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